How to Rosin your Bow 🎻 [Get the BEST sound]

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @RayChenViolinist
    @RayChenViolinist  Год назад +50

    Now that you've leveled up your rosin technique, go download Tonic to level up your playing too: tonicmusic.app/join-in 🎵

    • @hi28
      @hi28 Год назад +2

      not yet

    • @MishaSkripach
      @MishaSkripach Год назад +1

      Thank you, Ray! I learnt something new today!

    • @chrisma3256
      @chrisma3256 Год назад

      Can you fix the bugs so it works properly on Android please. It's annoying

    • @cyberpaw
      @cyberpaw Год назад

      This is the first time I’ve seen anybody use a toothbrush to evenly distribute rosin! Will try it now

    • @MishaSkripach
      @MishaSkripach Год назад

      @@cyberpaw I am scared

  • @Moon-iv1xy
    @Moon-iv1xy Год назад +45

    Never touched a violin in my life, I just really like listening to this guy talk so passionately about his stuff

  • @TheKinderdoc
    @TheKinderdoc Год назад +99

    My luthier taught me to rotate the resin cake as you apply it to the bow to avoid creating a groove in the resin, which would cause damage to the hairs on the sides of the bow.

    • @RayChenViolinist
      @RayChenViolinist  Год назад +37

      This too! That’s why my rosin is so level 👍🏼

    • @soupdrinker05
      @soupdrinker05 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@RayChenViolinistwhat rosin do you use

  • @925lily
    @925lily Год назад +9

    I don’t play violin either. I am here to support my favorite violinist and feel like part of the community.

  • @ynot5478
    @ynot5478 Год назад +97

    Your analogies are brilliant! I particularly love the wet hand on the balloon one-very tactile and vivid. Thank you for this video.

  • @softSnowman
    @softSnowman 6 месяцев назад +16

    As a beginner violinist, I truly appreciate your videos. I was interested in playing the violin about 2 years ago but quit because I couldn’t find any videos that explained what I needed to do. Now I’m back in and luckily I found these videos so now I know what I’m doing.

  • @Jermthemusician
    @Jermthemusician 17 дней назад +1

    I love videos like this, I just got my violin back after 14 years and gave it some well needed TLC, I had to clean the hairs on my bow to get all the gunk off of it. I forgot how loud it was when it got some quality rosin on fresh strings 😅 I'm sure my neighbors love me right now

  • @mooneyes007
    @mooneyes007 Год назад +23

    Thank you for this video!! My son has been playing for about 1.5 years and wasn't taught how to properly rosin his bow. This is super helpful. Please make more of these types of tutorials.

  • @djethreii
    @djethreii 11 месяцев назад +3

    I appreciate the analogies when you explain things. makes my baby brain understand it better.

  • @rokugoshitsu
    @rokugoshitsu Год назад +22

    I think Ray speaks faster than usual😅
    He is full of thoughts that he wants to convey to everyone.

  • @mdifilm
    @mdifilm Год назад +30

    Hey Ray, thanks for your videos, I recently picked up my violin that I had for almost 50 years, decided to remember how to play now that I'm 56 (was 8yo for about 2 years played). lol my fingers are no longer moving as fast... but your videos are inspirational, got me to really want to continue playing. Just wanted to say Thank YOU!

    • @wakingtheworld
      @wakingtheworld Год назад +1

      I'm a relative newbie as well... inspired by TwoSet Violin. Fingers get faster... Well I can manage 8 notes a bar now (4/4 time). Good luck and enjoy your musical journey...

    • @Erincutioner
      @Erincutioner 2 месяца назад

      @@wakingtheworld can you manage 16 NOTES A SECOND???

    • @wakingtheworld
      @wakingtheworld 2 месяца назад

      @@Erincutioner There's plenty of music out there that isn't 16 notes a second and a lot of beautiful pieces - Spiegel im Spiegel (although it's cello) springs to mind - that are exquisite and super slow. Another piece is Philip Glass' 'Metamorphois I' played by Anne Akiko Meyers. Speed is irrelevant. Musicality is everything. Ever heard Hahn playing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star? Check that one out on YT.

    • @Erincutioner
      @Erincutioner 2 месяца назад

      @@wakingtheworld haha, I was just making a twoset joke, it wasnt that serious.. and no i havent watched hilary hahn playing twinkle twinkle little star. I will definitely check that out, I heard its good

    • @wakingtheworld
      @wakingtheworld 2 месяца назад

      @@Erincutioner Ah right. Bit slow on the uptake today! Twinkle Twinkle is a very short vid and although she adds a bit more complexity to it, it's basically a simple piece. Enjoy! It might even lull you to sleep....

  • @Classicgypsy
    @Classicgypsy Год назад +3

    Thanks for the video Ray.
    I do it differently…
    You’re bowing your rosin! I think you should rosin your bow. It means that your bow should be kept still on your left hand, with the hair up and holding the rosin with your right hand you start moving it over the bow hair in the fashion you clearly explained. In that way we have much more control over the rosin direction and pressure over the bow hair .
    It works great! Try it.

  • @jh.y00N
    @jh.y00N 11 дней назад

    It made me how to know rosin in this video.What a delicate and sweet Ray who even teaches us how to apply rosin!
    Thank you for your teaching!👍🏻✨👑🎻🌞

  • @shantil7764
    @shantil7764 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ray’s animations are just so funny

  • @agnesv1937
    @agnesv1937 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the tips Ray. I divide my bow in four sections and apply rosin one section at a time across the bow. Didn’t know about the toothbrush technique. Now I have to try that.

  • @pravoslavn
    @pravoslavn Год назад +7

    LOVE your performances ! It was nice to be able to se you off-stage and relaxed. Keep you the good work !

  • @scabbedwings6548
    @scabbedwings6548 Год назад +2

    Just got a new bow in the mail today that is actually from the store of one of the rosins used in the rosin example image. It's the first bow that I've bought. My current bow came with my rental. Sure could have used the tips in the video to rosin up new bow, today. Didn't see the video until after I rosined my bow. Welp, will definitely use the tips in the future. Thanks!

  • @Amnesianite
    @Amnesianite 5 месяцев назад +1

    His metaphors are so on point

  • @jimbullock4156
    @jimbullock4156 Год назад +4

    Thanks Ray! Glad you recommended the toothbrush method, which I have been doing for years. My colleagues question my sanity. I learned a bit as well. Great presentation.

  • @prithviraj2327
    @prithviraj2327 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks a lot that really helped I'm a beginner and didn't know how to apply it😂 that helped thanks

  • @mehraneahmadi645
    @mehraneahmadi645 Год назад +5

    Simple but important...thank you for teaching how to do it correctly 💙

  • @ilmiglie3600
    @ilmiglie3600 Год назад +8

    Guys PLEASE don't forget to clean your bow and violin after playing!!!

    • @juliejules7780
      @juliejules7780 Год назад

      What part of the bow do you clean? The hair or wood?

    • @nickiemcnichols5397
      @nickiemcnichols5397 Год назад +5

      @@juliejules7780just the wood. And be careful not to touch the hair. The oils in your skin will prevent the resin from sticking to the hair.

  • @conradgittins4476
    @conradgittins4476 Год назад +3

    A point worth making is to avoid moving the bow too fast or with too much pressure so as to avoid heating the hair and rosin. Let the hair cut the rosin but do it slowly. You can hear it cut too. Be patient with new hair. It may not seem like it's taking rosin but it is and build it up gradually and test the bow even when you think there isn't enough rosin on the hair.

  • @mecrayuh
    @mecrayuh Год назад +4

    This is very helpful! I didn't know about covering up the ferrul but this makes a lot of sense. Will definitely use these tips.

  • @MaggiePerson-b6d
    @MaggiePerson-b6d 9 месяцев назад +1

    You’re seriously so awesome! I’ve been wondering how to do this for about a year and a half now… lol…

  • @kimbercafe11
    @kimbercafe11 9 часов назад

    I apprenticed with a violinmaker. We would crush the rosin and put it into a salt shaker. Shake it onto the hair then rub it with the shaker. Speeds up the process x 10 for rosining a whole box of new bows. Also, if you shatter your rosin accidentally you can heat it and melt it back together

  • @kellymanas6133
    @kellymanas6133 27 дней назад

    Thank you for the detail in your tutorial. Very helpful!

  • @rossthefiddler5890
    @rossthefiddler5890 Год назад +1

    I appreciate you're a revered professional & I do love your playing 😊, but I repair violin family of instruments & the way I prefer to rosin a bow (especially from new) is to lay the bow across the lap (not great when dressed in black) with the hair up, holding it with the left hand. I then hold the round cake (as you do), but I constantly rotate it as I'm rubbing it on the hair to avoid wearing a groove through the middle of it, in small strokes (as you described). That way I can really get the rosin on where I want it more, like the middle areas that tend to get worn off more.
    I then bounce the back of the stick on my hand to shake off loose excessive rosin & then wipe off any rosin on the stick (an area I usually have to clean back during a rehair).

  • @1859958
    @1859958 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you, Ray... instantly better! How many years not knowing😢

  • @anaischingmayjo91
    @anaischingmayjo91 Год назад +3

    Thank you for this video. I've been wanting to know exactly what you explained.

  • @mrsgingernoisette
    @mrsgingernoisette 10 месяцев назад +1

    You're a great teacher I wish you had lots of lessons..

  • @HappyG1lm0re
    @HappyG1lm0re Год назад +1

    This video was super helpful even after thinking I knew how to apply rosin. You the man, Ray!

  • @southpark5555
    @southpark5555 Год назад +1

    4:09 - the JAWS finger-nail scratch on chalk board analogy! Kidding only. I definitely learned some good techniques in this vid! Excellent vid.

  • @chrisma3256
    @chrisma3256 Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing 😊 never heard that with the tooth brush before. How often you need to rosin your bow will also depend on how much you play I. My kid plays a lot less and doesn't need to rosin her bow that often. Also, my local luthier so messed up my bow (right after cleaning it) putting on some random rosin so I could test the new strings properly (worst luthier ever, made my sound post fall without being able to place it correctly again... my teacher had to fix that)...

  • @msadams925
    @msadams925 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you. My 6yr old begins her violin lessons today after receiving hers for a Christmas gift. We were going to cancel because we couldn't get any sound. Thank you for this video.

  • @bridgetchang
    @bridgetchang Год назад +4

    I find it so fascinating that in some videos Ray's accent skews more American and then in others his Aussie accent is much thicker! Just a fun observation knowing he's spent time in both places. Love the videos, Ray, and thanks for sharing these great tips! Retired cellist here but forever a classical music nerd.

  • @saea58
    @saea58 Год назад +4

    Thanks! I love the toothbrush idea.🎉

  • @ElaineArmentano
    @ElaineArmentano 8 месяцев назад

    I just came back from playing the violin ( i took some hiatus) and this video is so helpful for me

  • @yingyangmapper5399
    @yingyangmapper5399 Год назад +1

    I'm waiting for the actual video, as a violin beginner I hope to learn something to improve my playing and maybe someday I'll be able to join an orchestra

  • @NehanWathugala
    @NehanWathugala Год назад +2

    Hi Ray! Awesome and very helpful video ........ I love your channel and your playing. its awesome. I would very much appreciate if you could do a video on how to properly clean a bow . i think that would be really helpful for my self and all of our fellow musicians..... Thank you!

  • @chrissinger24
    @chrissinger24 Год назад +1

    I’ve never heard of the toothbrush trick. I’ll definitely give it a shot.

  • @annatat2020
    @annatat2020 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! This is very helpful for a beginner - I can make a sound now! I just video called my mom and I couldn't play anything lol Also, I feel like I levelled up just by using a toothbrush :D

  • @thatviolist_leah
    @thatviolist_leah Год назад

    It’s interesting you use the toothbrush technique because when I was 11 my orchestra teacher had us do this during our lessons. Although since then I hadn’t continued doing it but I think I will start using one again when I apply rosin.

  • @johngross9394
    @johngross9394 Год назад +1

    I use Gustave Bernardel Rosin . Thank for the tips

  • @jding6266
    @jding6266 Год назад +1

    Thanks, helpfull and you have a fantastic positive vibe, love it

  • @Colopty
    @Colopty Год назад +2

    That toothbrush trick is great, my bow's gonna be so well rosined as soon as I pick up a toothbrush that isn't electric.

  • @Pelixu
    @Pelixu 9 месяцев назад

    Ordering one soon! Havent played in 5 years i gotta relearn everything

  • @maxwarfield6699
    @maxwarfield6699 Месяц назад

    Is this the same rosin that is used in soldering? Rosin is used in electronic repairs, it helps the solder wire flow better, and you’ll get a finer solder joint, etc, etc. Or is this a special, perhaps more delicate rosin made specifically for violins? Please let me know. Thank you kindly

  • @ZxelA0214
    @ZxelA0214 Год назад +1

    Hi Ray, how often should I or can I do the toothbrush trick? It's seems very damaging to the hair and shouldn't be over used.

  • @celli_ec._.
    @celli_ec._. Год назад +2

    Ok.. I don’t play violin… but I do use rosin. I remember scratching up my rosin w/ a paper clip to get the rosin dust out😅. I realized I was doing it wrong. Like, there were big lines across the rosin and many cracks.I broke my forbidden candy lol 😂 ( I got a new one with a new bow…. Which I might’ve dropped (both of them…)😅).
    Also, at 4:10, I never thought I’d hear Ray make that sound on the violin 😂

  • @10data10
    @10data10 Год назад

    When I was young my parents had my bow re-haired at the local band shop. They helped us out by applying powered rosin to the new bow hair. I’ve since wondered if that is a best practice.

  • @Leslee_gallagher
    @Leslee_gallagher 11 дней назад

    I still don't have my violin yet but I still enjoy this

  • @augustinechinnappanmuthria7042
    @augustinechinnappanmuthria7042 11 месяцев назад +1

    Super super super tips
    Augustine violinist from Malaysia

  • @olitown_3840
    @olitown_3840 Год назад

    Im glad to see helpful videos like this since i remember having trouble with simple stuff like this when i started out playing!

  • @wylim6234
    @wylim6234 Год назад +1

    Do you recommend scratching the surface of a fresh rosin? I was taught that when I first started but don't know if that's the right thing to do 😂

  • @anjinsanx44
    @anjinsanx44 Год назад +1

    Great tutorial! Will implement immediately! ! Thx

  • @krissingh5016
    @krissingh5016 Год назад +5

    Hi Ray! When you have a new cake of rosin do you scratch it or just work it in with the bow hairs?

    • @wakingtheworld
      @wakingtheworld Год назад +1

      Olaf (the Violinmaker) said to scratch it... so I did!

  • @danaharrod9093
    @danaharrod9093 Год назад

    The toothbrush tip was new to me. Makes sense!

  • @user-83hricueb7
    @user-83hricueb7 Год назад +510

    I don't even play violin why am I here?

    • @jamer5ive
      @jamer5ive Год назад +12

      I share the same sentiments lol!

    • @mccafferyfamily
      @mccafferyfamily Год назад +40

      You should start...I started at 42 yo and love it....

    • @Jessica_Quek
      @Jessica_Quek Год назад +4

      Same dude I play the piano and im here waiting for the live hahaha

    • @kovacszsolt9067
      @kovacszsolt9067 Год назад +3

      Viola ?

    • @mccafferyfamily
      @mccafferyfamily Год назад +5

      @@user-83hricueb7 Violin has huge dynamic range but to play softly and sweetly does need some practice

  • @Shrinksjp
    @Shrinksjp Год назад +2

    Het, Ray! my rosin always tends to become brittle and it breaks. I need a sure fire video on vibrato. I CAN'T DO IT despite lessons!

    • @Shrinksjp
      @Shrinksjp Год назад

      there is indication of a reply, but no text. ????????

  • @kenhuang3820
    @kenhuang3820 8 месяцев назад

    You mentioned 2 minutes to rosin can you share with us how many times up and down required for fresh rehaired bow. Because each person 2 minutes might be different
    And I seen other say for fresh rehair you go up down up to 30 times (15 up 15 down) is that correct?
    Another violinist RUclipsr say you also need rosin on both side of the hair is that correct?
    Look forward to your answer thank you

  • @guillermoramirez8444
    @guillermoramirez8444 Год назад +1

    This is an awesome video! I have seen some violinists quickly swipe their bow in the air like doing the mark of El Zorro 🎩 🦊 , I guess to get rid of excess rosin. Thoughts?

  • @BHOOMIKyt
    @BHOOMIKyt 4 часа назад

    Thanks i try it on my violin bow sir say you play good❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊

  • @Robmaster_violin
    @Robmaster_violin 4 месяца назад +2

    Can you attach a link to the best rosin please ray?

  • @MusicEnthusiastIlias0520
    @MusicEnthusiastIlias0520 Год назад +11

    What to do when halfway through the concert u find yourself having not enough rossin?

    • @MishaSkripach
      @MishaSkripach Год назад +1

      Keep going

    • @Aaron-xq6hv
      @Aaron-xq6hv Год назад

      Rosin really doesn't go away *that* quickly.

    • @halfwaycrook1962
      @halfwaycrook1962 Год назад

      ​@@Aaron-xq6hvthat must be a very long concert

    • @RayChenViolinist
      @RayChenViolinist  Год назад +9

      You stop licking your bow hair -jk that’s also why the toothbrush technique helps 🪥

    • @halfwaycrook1962
      @halfwaycrook1962 Год назад +6

      @@RayChenViolinist I always brush my bow after brushing my teeth. Due to the toothpaste the hair has become white and shiny👍

  • @eonguider8593
    @eonguider8593 8 месяцев назад

    Is it better to apply rosin before, during, or after practice? Or does it not matter? I’ve heard from a friend that rosining after lets it set, but I don’t know if that’s true or not.

  • @gv100_blitz
    @gv100_blitz Год назад +1

    That bow hair looks happy

  • @nafizzeybek5300
    @nafizzeybek5300 Год назад

    Hi Ray, Are you planning to make a video about what are you doing in normal day? Like a Vlog

  • @Spiritmourn
    @Spiritmourn 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this tip. I am having issues when I play in rehearsal with my strings sounded brittle and scratchy towards the end, it makes my violin sound terrible and me also as a player. My violin and strings are all very good quality (violin around £18k, strings are pirastro gold ) I mainly play baroque. I've put a humidifier pouch in the case and have a hygrometer but nothing seems to help. Do you have any tips??? Really struggling here. Maybe the church air becomes dry as its always cold in there... I dont know 😕

  • @Louise-zs9rl
    @Louise-zs9rl Год назад

    OOOOOOOoooooooooppppppps.
    I have been doing the 16 bar technique and no wonder the rosin was making me sneeze.

  • @randomfrog1196
    @randomfrog1196 9 месяцев назад

    I get a lot of airy, slippy and white noise from my bow. Its properly rosined, not too much nor too little... and my hairs dont feel like theyre gripping the strings, its like bowing with flour on the bow. So powdery and dry feeling.
    Does this mean I should switch to dark rosin? So its be stickier and grip better?
    And if so, can I just wipe my existing bow hair down with a clean cloth to remove 'most' of the old light rosin before applying the new black?
    Please advise, I have had rosin problems for 2 years 😂
    The struggles of being self-taught.

  • @namele55777
    @namele55777 Год назад +1

    what i like to do after applying rosin is to run a microfibre cloth between the wood and the hair of the bow to wipe the rosin off the wood - i know, i know, i'm just ocd.

  • @teresarenzini5692
    @teresarenzini5692 Год назад

    I do have a question. I have been playing violin for about 6 years, and my mom( who has been playing since fifth grade) always taught me to bang on the rosin (not super hard) to get the powder out, and i noticed that it didnt look like you did that with yours. Is that healthy for the bow and rosin or can it damage them both over time, and should i stop doing that to my rosin?

  • @hannahschneyder6651
    @hannahschneyder6651 Год назад

    So, what do you do when the rosin builds up on the strings? Do you wipe them down just with a cloth, or maybe some water? Or are the strings supposed to have a bit of rosin on them as well? I just find it messes with my bowing because it's unevenly distributed, so I cannot adjust.

  • @chrisdaglis320
    @chrisdaglis320 3 месяца назад

    Newbie question: When using a brand new cake of rosin, does it need to be scored or scraped with a razor blade or something first? It doesn't seem to transfer well to the bow hair when it's smooth like that... thanks!

  • @stoatsnhoney
    @stoatsnhoney 9 месяцев назад

    I know you're a professional and I"m an amateur, but I am curious if the "semiquaver" technique might ultimately be counterproductive? I've heard rubbing the rosin too fast or in too short a motion will heat it up faster due to increased friction, which will in turn diminish the lifespan on the rosin. Is this true?

  • @BobaPlayzsolsrng
    @BobaPlayzsolsrng 9 месяцев назад

    I’m going to play a solo in my violin club so this is really useful gotta rosin it everyday😂

  • @laguitarradepablo
    @laguitarradepablo 2 месяца назад +1

    I wasn't expecting the toothbrush thing 😂 wow

  • @arrowwhiskers
    @arrowwhiskers Год назад +1

    Probably a dumb question but--is it ever appropriate to wipe rosin off of the strings when there is a large buildup? Sometimes when I feel like I can't get the sound I want no matter what I do, I try cleaning built-up rosin off of the strings with a cloth. Sometimes there is a ton caked on! I can't really tell if cleaning is a net benefit or not but I've never heard anyone talk about doing this. I also buy pretty inexpensive rosin so that may impact how gunky the strings get.

  • @SpaceEC
    @SpaceEC Год назад

    wish i could come and see you for your Sibelius violin concerto in Edinburgh.... :(

  • @androidkenobi
    @androidkenobi Год назад

    F1 tires are extremely sticky!! Think about it, would u want something to skid when ur moving really fast?

  • @JosephMusgrove
    @JosephMusgrove Год назад +1

    Never considered a toothbrush to even out rosin. Appreciate the tip.

  • @mohanmedagama4109
    @mohanmedagama4109 Год назад

    Ohh thank you so much Rey I'm learning the violin by my self so thank you so much❤😊 luv u

  • @Yu-Fei-Hung
    @Yu-Fei-Hung Год назад

    Nice tip, very few explain it without hay 👍

  • @ruikasasfixer
    @ruikasasfixer 11 месяцев назад

    i dont know if you will see this, is it possible to clean off rosin from the bow? my bow probably has tons of rosin on it and it needs a refresher but im unsure if its actually to clean rosin off without harming the hair or the bow

  • @Isaactheviolinist
    @Isaactheviolinist Год назад

    @RayChen i play the violin i should've came here a long time ago after i got my violin i had just didn't know that you were on RUclips the day when you and Karolina protsenko played together amd then that is when i found out about you thanks for the help and question how would you get the roain off of the bow with damaging it what is the safest way

  • @antonvf9619
    @antonvf9619 Год назад

    lany thanks! learned so much! this is so helpfull

  • @daviddaasian9685
    @daviddaasian9685 Год назад +1

    The fact that I didn't know this during my 6 years of playing is crazy tho...

  • @littleboyx1210
    @littleboyx1210 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing. I am wondering between pirastro goldflex and oliv evah rosin. Could you help me out pls?

  • @FranklinDBluth-yq6ww
    @FranklinDBluth-yq6ww 2 месяца назад

    Thanks ray. U forgot to tell us about cleaning rosin dust off the violin and bow stick.

  • @danyboygarcia4335
    @danyboygarcia4335 Год назад

    Buenos días, si voy a cambiar de rosin en el mismo arco? Hay que limpiar el arco de la rosin anterior?

  • @salomaocabral8816
    @salomaocabral8816 Год назад

    I'm loving these videos

  • @ijerry1
    @ijerry1 4 месяца назад

    Great tip about the toothbrush! Thanks for sharing :-)

  • @lailataveras6401
    @lailataveras6401 9 месяцев назад

    What I had done with my rosin is that I would crack it in order to coat the rosin on the bow. After watching this video, how badly would that damage my bow? Would I have to get a new one?

  • @cackslopper5321
    @cackslopper5321 Год назад +1

    The Will Ferell edit secured a like and subscribe from me

  • @joonsubjun3634
    @joonsubjun3634 11 месяцев назад

    I really love your contents!!😊

  • @Stone2home
    @Stone2home 5 месяцев назад

    OK! Cool! Now, how do I keep from playing flat, scratchy notes?

  • @daphnegraham7057
    @daphnegraham7057 8 месяцев назад

    El movimiento de tu mano en el vibrato es de derecha a izquierda o de atrás hacia adelante ?

  • @Grem305
    @Grem305 Год назад

    I never do it and it helps me bluff my way through as the sound is mellow and less acrid when you do not use it.

  • @hs964
    @hs964 8 месяцев назад

    Love the new generation- so willing to share knowledge. And not diva like at all