This was so helpful! As an intermediate violinist, I never really learnt tuning, and I swear when Ray talked about the oscillation thing I suprised pikachu faced for a solid minute
Wow, this was a great explanation. When I played the violin as a kid my teacher just went “you should learn how to tune your instrument now” and I would try and then she would have to correct it. There wasn’t an explanation except you would hear it. So I think I would get close but not know how to get the final tuning perfect
Thanks a lot, Ray! This is undeniably helpful when it comes to tuning, rather than just randomly choosing any video of a violin tuner to match my pitch with theirs; in the end, I always ended up relying on that video without even training myself to tune it independently! The best video explained so far, clear and precise 😅
Fellow music teacher here. THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!! I absolutely love incorporating physics into my teaching and you do that here but in a completely accessible way. Amazing
Having this laid out so clearly and practically is incredibly useful. I would love more tips of ear training. Obviously not gonna qsk for full music theory content, but I found recognizing intervals or working on hearing myself in an ensemble and blending with other musicians is stuff im interested in
I have been playing violin for about 2 years and I have always wanted to learn to tune, I looked all over the internet but I just couldn't find something that I understood, but your videos help me with so much! Thank You :D
btw random question, but why does hearing no oscillations make it be perfectly in tune (for fifths)? If you did it perfectly would you tune at a 3/2 ratio or a ¹²√2⁷ ?
@@ArbitraryCodeExecution no need to do complicated math when tuning lol. It's because 5ths (as well as 4ths) are consonant intervals, meaning there must be no clash between the notes. I'd say check out the theory behind musical intervals and it'll all make sense.
@@ingridayarza at first i related the 'perfect' sound with that of wavelength ratios of simple integers, but after realising intervals arent so simple (7 octaves isnt the same as 12 fifths) i became more confused
OMG! This is so smart!! Didn't know method 1 or 3. I was taught only method 2 and always thought it was the only way. Love to learn different approaches!! ❤❤
as a beginner, this will definitely help me and makes me more excited to practice. All these videos motivates me more and especially because its from Ray. Thank you so so much Rayyy and i will look forward to more videos like this in the future
I'm a singer/songwriter - classically trained in opera by six different opera coaches - someone gave me a guitar a few weeks ago ... so I'm hoping your Fast & Easy violin tuning tricks can be adapted to the guitar - youtube recommended this video to me - youtube is so helpful.
Hey Ray, Can you please post a video of how to prevent shakey bow because whenever I play notes my bow starts to shake and bounce just slightly. Thank you for reviving the channel!
Hi Ray, I play the flute, but this is very interesting, and useful too : when playing in an orchestra we need to be very aware of our pitch and adjust it whenever it's needed, (which, with the flute or even more with the piccolo, is pretty often! 😅)
great advice Ray, with fine tuners, great for beginners but many (not all) violins sound better without them which is a tip I got from a world renowned violin maker, I've been playing since 1994 with just an E fine tuner, but have recently removed mine, it's worth experimenting with, I'm now playing with no fine tuners, better sound and I'd say if your pegs are fit well it doesn't even make it harder to tune, my main violin stays in tune remarkably well, so well fit pegs are important with or without fine tuners, I've found within the last couple of years that measuring the string length rather than rules of thumb and removing the fine tuner can improve the sound of most violins, especially if your soundpost is in the correct spot, 😎
Coming here AFTER snapping a string on my BF’S violin bc I never heard of fine tuners and the pegs kept spinning back 🤡 (I only learned to tune a guitar as a kid) I look forward to putting these tips into action after I replace the string 😅 Thx Ray!
I usually tune all strings at the same time, a little bit each time, making sure the bridge is not collapsing, and then, I tune to the correct pitch from the lowest string to the highest (violin, G to E) because I "feel" the lowest string "pulls" the brigde a litrle bit and it changes the tuning of the other strings when I already tuned them ok. Otherwise, if I tune E and A strings first, and then the G, those strings are going to change their pitches. Sorry for my bad English.
Im getting an eastar violin in a few days and I dont know how to tighten the pegs, it would really help if you told which direction, since Im new to violin
the osilating sound is usually call "beat sound" right? that's where 440hz and 441hz played together generate the beat sound of 1Hz. 1 hz is only about 4 cents of the near 440hz semitone, which is already very very good.
Wow, Ray cheng is teaching us how to get in tune in strings instruments, for me I play double bass, but unfortunately my metronome was stolen by a cheap thief roommate she named I-Chun Hsieh so that I don't have anything to practice. I think I've learned a lot here. Thank you Ray. Have a good day. I hope tonic would have an item that I could choose like popular music so on in the near future. Bye for now, and have a good day. I didn't married to a person that Zodiac sign is dog, so who is Beach Ray cheng mentioned about here? Dirty eunuch Zhang, whose zodiac sign is not dog, bought a cheap dog and howled downstairs in Wansheng Building.
I don’t know why there are videos on tuning that don’t mention the oscillating sound. That is key to tuning by ear! When it’s exactly in tune, it’s not hard to tell that it sounds “right” but when it’s slightly off, it’s very hard to tell whether you’re sharp or flat.
It would be really useful to add a bit more about tuning strings against each others. Without a reference, it's harder to tell when the strings are high or low -- you're not comparing with unison. Seeing an example would be really useful. Also, question: when a soloist steps on the stage, they tend to grab the pin and rock it back and forth until that sweet spot is reached. Is that because they are listening for the vibration, rather than trying to guess if they are high or low? A bit like adjusting focus on a projector?
Wow Ray. Great vid. Most useful but till my ears improve I'll continue with my electronic tuner.. Btw thoroughly enjoyed your Sibelius and Pag in Edinburgh on Friday evening but setting off the fire alarm to wriggle out of meeting your fans & signing autographs was quite some move. 😉 Waited outside for a while and not a single fire engine showed. 😲 Hmmm....
Ray have you ever thought about doing a video of some fiddle style music like maybe something from say Kenny Baker , he was very big influence of most Bluegrass fiddlers and wrote a bunch tunes and recorded a lot of records , I think it would be great to hear your take on that style of music being a classical player ,take a listen to his version of the fiddle tune Back up and Push it's on RUclips and I am sure you will just love his take of that tune ,thanks Ray ,I am a fiddle player and also love listening to your wonderful classical style too.
I just got my first violin today and dear lawd it is a stressful experience trying to tune it. The pegs are returning to place and when i eventually get one right, by the time i get the second or third right, the first string is incorrect again
Yeah I practice myself with a higher pitch than 440, one of my past orchestras used. Once in a rehearsal I was waiting to be tuned by others, however somehow the conductor to give an A...It was off...I explained....I know it is higher than 440. Then conductor said: let's use that higher-than-440 note😂 I was KIND OF relieved😂😂😂
You're quitting your hobby because you arent as good as a professional who has spent a good amount of his life perfecting his art, after only playing for a few years?
Mozart's Sonata no. 16 in the background hit me like a ton of bricks. That's one of the songs I used to play as a kid but lost the sheet music and forgot it entirely. Gonna remedy that now.
This question might be irrelevant but, how to relax our lefthand when it "naturally" becomes stiff and pressing the strings unnecessarily hard when playing a long pieces like chaconnes, concerti etc.? Cuz i realize that everything falls apart when it happens🙏
Wait your tuning to 442? I play in church and everyone tunes to 440. Actually, everyone I have ever played with tunes their guitars to 440hz. Please help me understand.
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As a beginner pianist I'm sure this will help me!
Yes, exactly! Very helpful video.
yes, very helpful lile this video is totally for this instrument.
yup youre correct
I love using this video to tune my digital piano
@@killer8217gaming really how show me
I love how you teach a basic skill yet also opening the ways on how to do it on a finer level. Love it! Thank you, Ray!
This was so helpful! As an intermediate violinist, I never really learnt tuning, and I swear when Ray talked about the oscillation thing I suprised pikachu faced for a solid minute
Came here to say this. I can hear them and it is absolutely wild. My mind is utterly blown and imma need a video on the science STAT
Can you make a video on how to tune fast and furious instead of fast and easy?
Lol
❤
You'll need a tuned up violin for that
Wow, this was a great explanation. When I played the violin as a kid my teacher just went “you should learn how to tune your instrument now” and I would try and then she would have to correct it. There wasn’t an explanation except you would hear it. So I think I would get close but not know how to get the final tuning perfect
As a beginner I'm so excited to this video (beginner violinist!) Thank you for the video Ray!!! Lot of your video help me so much!
I just started to play, and this video is right on time!
Thank you, Mr. Chen!
Thanks a lot, Ray! This is undeniably helpful when it comes to tuning, rather than just randomly choosing any video of a violin tuner to match my pitch with theirs; in the end, I always ended up relying on that video without even training myself to tune it independently! The best video explained so far, clear and precise 😅
Fellow music teacher here. THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!! I absolutely love incorporating physics into my teaching and you do that here but in a completely accessible way. Amazing
Having this laid out so clearly and practically is incredibly useful. I would love more tips of ear training. Obviously not gonna qsk for full music theory content, but I found recognizing intervals or working on hearing myself in an ensemble and blending with other musicians is stuff im interested in
I have been playing violin for about 2 years and I have always wanted to learn to tune, I looked all over the internet but I just couldn't find something that I understood, but your videos help me with so much! Thank You :D
Very first vid on violin tuning I've ever watched. & it's PERFECTION!!!!
3:49 been playing violin for 7 years and just realized that my fine tuners are flipped, counter if its flatter and clockwise if its sharper
What do you do after you tune? You PRACTICE. Get motivated and hyped to practice together with me & the community on Tonic: tonicmusic.app/join-in 🙌🏼
@isaacchapul269 It gets easier once you get started. I believe in you!
@@RayChenViolinist I hop on Ray Fans on Tonic
btw random question, but why does hearing no oscillations make it be perfectly in tune (for fifths)? If you did it perfectly would you tune at a 3/2 ratio or a ¹²√2⁷ ?
@@ArbitraryCodeExecution no need to do complicated math when tuning lol. It's because 5ths (as well as 4ths) are consonant intervals, meaning there must be no clash between the notes.
I'd say check out the theory behind musical intervals and it'll all make sense.
@@ingridayarza at first i related the 'perfect' sound with that of wavelength ratios of simple integers, but after realising intervals arent so simple (7 octaves isnt the same as 12 fifths) i became more confused
OMG! This is so smart!! Didn't know method 1 or 3. I was taught only method 2 and always thought it was the only way. Love to learn different approaches!! ❤❤
Wow! I never knew and never been taught how to tune like this before. Thank you for teaching me the way!
OMG, the tuning method based on sound wave is magical to me!!!!
as a beginner, this will definitely help me and makes me more excited to practice. All these videos motivates me more and especially because its from Ray. Thank you so so much Rayyy and i will look forward to more videos like this in the future
This helped me so much with my viola when tuning! Thanks Ray!
Finally someone who explained how to tune using the fiths. Thank you Ray.
I'm practising how to tune my violin by ears these days ...THANK YOU SO MUCH I needed that💙🙏
I'm a singer/songwriter - classically trained in opera by six different opera coaches - someone gave me a guitar a few weeks ago ... so I'm hoping your Fast & Easy violin tuning tricks can be adapted to the guitar - youtube recommended this video to me - youtube is so helpful.
Wow! Getting video after video by Ray Chen! RUclips prodigy right here
40 hours of practice + 40 hours of content creation + 40 hours of app development 🎵🎥📲
Brilliant video Ray thanks a million for posting.
I did not know about the oscillation. Very interesting.
This was very cool! Thanks for the tip on the oscillations! As a physics teacher/beginner violinist I really appreciated the application 😊
I'm really glad to see this video from someone like you, Ray. I'm a beginner violinist and i'm so excited to this video
I put on fine tuners and I love them ever since. Saving me a lot of time for practice 😜😁
I approve 👍🏼
Hey Ray,
Can you please post a video of how to prevent shakey bow because whenever I play notes my bow starts to shake and bounce just slightly. Thank you for reviving the channel!
Hi Ray, I play the flute, but this is very interesting, and useful too : when playing in an orchestra we need to be very aware of our pitch and adjust it whenever it's needed, (which, with the flute or even more with the piccolo, is pretty often! 😅)
I literally play guitar and already tune like this but I’m here for engagement 😂 Grats Ray, you got me lol
The way he just casually said 'congratulations! You lose.
nice, but what about tuning with the pegs? would love to see a video about that as well
Great suggestion! I’ll be sure to make that soon 👍🏼
Helped a lot. Now I understand what Bass players mean when the wave is even
The explanation with the waves was nice. But I'd love to see a video showing really tuning the other strings playing 5ths.
The string got loose af and it doesn't let me adjust it anymore, I'm losing my goddamn mind
This was very helpful❤❤
Thanks Ray😄 ive been trying to tune by ear and i already do it but i just needed to clear some stuff up especially the oscillating thing❤
Question: When tuning 5ths, is it advisable to tune with pure intervals (just intonation), as opposed to the equal temperament?
I'd say always tune pure unless you are playing with a piano.
Pure ftw lol
I anticipate a Ray Chen review on Chevalier 👊
I was surprised I could hear it. Thank you.
Thank you Ray, this is amazing! I'm educated
as a soon to be cellist, this will help a ton!
WOW ! Very impressive ! Thanks.
Bro the soundwave method is fun as hell
wow, I never learned to listen for oscillation. Very cool
Very helpful👍, thank you 🙏
great advice Ray, with fine tuners, great for beginners but many (not all) violins sound better without them which is a tip I got from a world renowned violin maker, I've been playing since 1994 with just an E fine tuner, but have recently removed mine, it's worth experimenting with, I'm now playing with no fine tuners, better sound and I'd say if your pegs are fit well it doesn't even make it harder to tune, my main violin stays in tune remarkably well, so well fit pegs are important with or without fine tuners, I've found within the last couple of years that measuring the string length rather than rules of thumb and removing the fine tuner can improve the sound of most violins, especially if your soundpost is in the correct spot, 😎
Your well reknowned friend is wrong and taking the piss!
I'm a beginner cellist and I also expect this to help me :D
That works for cello too but we also tune to harmonics which is really cool. 🎻🎻🎻
wow!! I love these videos.
Coming here AFTER snapping a string on my BF’S violin bc I never heard of fine tuners and the pegs kept spinning back 🤡 (I only learned to tune a guitar as a kid) I look forward to putting these tips into action after I replace the string 😅 Thx Ray!
When tuning a violin I like to pretend I'm cracking a safe. Doesn't help me do it better but it is fun!
Very helpful thank you
I usually tune all strings at the same time, a little bit each time, making sure the bridge is not collapsing, and then, I tune to the correct pitch from the lowest string to the highest (violin, G to E) because I "feel" the lowest string "pulls" the brigde a litrle bit and it changes the tuning of the other strings when I already tuned them ok. Otherwise, if I tune E and A strings first, and then the G, those strings are going to change their pitches.
Sorry for my bad English.
So helpful!
I like you ♥
Best violinist Ray Chen😊
Im getting an eastar violin in a few days and I dont know how to tighten the pegs, it would really help if you told which direction, since Im new to violin
Yes I can't wait for the video that will teach how to tune my violin with peg
This helped me so much, thank you! Now I don't have to ask people to tune my instrument for me over break :)
Interesting,I have a korg tuner eith metronome,and it does have this sound you can play to,I assume it's to tune violin,as you have in this video!
How do I know if the fifths are sharp or flat?
the osilating sound is usually call "beat sound" right? that's where 440hz and 441hz played together generate the beat sound of 1Hz.
1 hz is only about 4 cents of the near 440hz semitone, which is already very very good.
Thank you for another fundamental yet important lesson! See you later at Birmingham Ray! 🤗
The difficulty is to tune new strings on a new violin. Ray, you should discuss this area too.
When do we use the pegs?
By the way very helpful video
Any videos on tuning without fine tuners? My teacher just had me update my tailpiece and remove them, other than the E.
Was very helpful
Love this ❤
Wow, Ray cheng is teaching us how to get in tune in strings instruments, for me I play double bass, but unfortunately my metronome was stolen by a cheap thief roommate she named I-Chun Hsieh so that I don't have anything to practice. I think I've learned a lot here. Thank you Ray. Have a good day. I hope tonic would have an item that I could choose like popular music so on in the near future. Bye for now, and have a good day. I didn't married to a person that Zodiac sign is dog, so who is Beach Ray cheng mentioned about here?
Dirty eunuch Zhang, whose zodiac sign is not dog, bought a cheap dog and howled downstairs in Wansheng Building.
Can we leave the violin like that after tuned or we should losen the strings?
I don’t know why there are videos on tuning that don’t mention the oscillating sound. That is key to tuning by ear! When it’s exactly in tune, it’s not hard to tell that it sounds “right” but when it’s slightly off, it’s very hard to tell whether you’re sharp or flat.
It would be really useful to add a bit more about tuning strings against each others. Without a reference, it's harder to tell when the strings are high or low -- you're not comparing with unison. Seeing an example would be really useful. Also, question: when a soloist steps on the stage, they tend to grab the pin and rock it back and forth until that sweet spot is reached. Is that because they are listening for the vibration, rather than trying to guess if they are high or low? A bit like adjusting focus on a projector?
Wow Ray. Great vid. Most useful but till my ears improve I'll continue with my electronic tuner..
Btw thoroughly enjoyed your Sibelius and Pag in Edinburgh on Friday evening but setting off the fire alarm to wriggle out of meeting your fans & signing autographs was quite some move. 😉 Waited outside for a while and not a single fire engine showed. 😲 Hmmm....
Ray have you ever thought about doing a video of some fiddle style music like maybe something from say Kenny Baker , he was very big influence of most Bluegrass fiddlers and wrote a bunch tunes and recorded a lot of records , I think it would be great to hear your take on that style of music being a classical player ,take a listen to his version of the fiddle tune Back up and Push it's on RUclips and I am sure you will just love his take of that tune ,thanks Ray ,I am a fiddle player and also love listening to your wonderful classical style too.
what do you need to tune? like i heard that we need like a led thingy. I just got my violin. What am i suppose to do?
Thx 🙏🏼
I just got my first violin today and dear lawd it is a stressful experience trying to tune it. The pegs are returning to place and when i eventually get one right, by the time i get the second or third right, the first string is incorrect again
👌that was helpful af
See with the first time I tried tuning, my string snapped, is it normal to have to push in the tuning poles with all ur might?
Yeah I practice myself with a higher pitch than 440, one of my past orchestras used. Once in a rehearsal I was waiting to be tuned by others, however somehow the conductor to give an A...It was off...I explained....I know it is higher than 440. Then conductor said: let's use that higher-than-440 note😂 I was KIND OF relieved😂😂😂
I am playing violin in junior high school but i can never play like you😢you were the reason I started violin but I can’t play well so I am quitting ❤
Don't quite,look at me I've been playing for 2 years in high-school and my violin playing is decent
You're quitting your hobby because you arent as good as a professional who has spent a good amount of his life perfecting his art, after only playing for a few years?
I quit for 2 months and im back,maybe you just need to rest and is ok
Very curious why you think like that. My enjoyment of tennis is not affected by the fact I know I’ll never be at Federer’s level
Yeah, I’m not the worlds next Yuja Wang but that’s alright look at Ling Ling bro practiced 40 hours a day and look at Ling Ling now.
Could we ever see violist-Ray one day in a vid ? 👀
What if you are getting a different note on A string the B note
Do I need to relax the strings?
Mozart's Sonata no. 16 in the background hit me like a ton of bricks. That's one of the songs I used to play as a kid but lost the sheet music and forgot it entirely. Gonna remedy that now.
Can demo the sound of the 5ths?
Your videos get weird comments, Ray.
This question might be irrelevant but, how to relax our lefthand when it "naturally" becomes stiff and pressing the strings unnecessarily hard when playing a long pieces like chaconnes, concerti etc.? Cuz i realize that everything falls apart when it happens🙏
Hi ray I am a big fan
Wish there were more cello YT channels
Over here! 👍🏻
how about just intonation x tempered intonation and these things? it's so hard to understand what is this all about!
I tune my instruments with my ME-80 Multiple effects pedal.
wow that's cool
I used to tune my violin by comparing harmonics (once the A string was in tune).
Wait your tuning to 442? I play in church and everyone tunes to 440. Actually, everyone I have ever played with tunes their guitars to 440hz. Please help me understand.
Why does some violin have only one fine tuner?
低音提琴的弦/依序是g,d,a,e.再低就是c了/這樣,有跟小提琴的弦順序一樣嗎/
Good to know, thank you.
if you can tune it slowly, you can tune it quickly
443 according to my teacher, so there seem to be differences across Europe