How to *NOT* install the TEC fork springs for the Triumph Speed Twin
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Everyone keeps telling me I'm supposed to hate the suspension on my 2019 Triumph Speed Twin. They can't all be wrong, can they? I've been fine with it so far, but Triumph certainly left some room for improvement. In this video, I explore upgrading to the progressive front fork springs from TEC Bike Parts, but they'll have to make it past my mechanical butterfingers first...
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Hey, I told you not to come back here and watch this!
Fair play, most of us learned the basics of loosening the pinch bolts before trying to remove the caps before the internet and so we didn’t video our mistakes to show the world. Good effort just like the rest of us!
That's what I get for following the product instructions instead of a proper service manual 🙄
A 'torque wrench' is used for tightening 'UP' a nut or bolt.
A 'breaker bar' is for loosening a bolt or nut.
Lesson over.......
You might just need to loosen the top yoke bolts first. Then the top caps should loosen up way easier. Also you could use a breaker bar instead of the torque wrench. Dont give up, I wanna see those springs in that fork.
True, I guess I assumed he did that. I honestly didn't think the caps need to be that tight because u have pinch bolts on the caps. Good catch.
You shouldn't be using a torque wrench to remove anything. You should use a breaker bar or wrench. Once it's loose, you can use a ratchet but never to break it free.
Toruque wrench is a measurement tool, not a wrench, as might have already learned the hard way. :D good luck. don't give up.
Honest video. And I'm sure that a large part of the population who are also not mechanically inclined understand completely.
Love your honesty - these things happen to most of us.
The anguish on your face as you sit on the stairs is so familiar.
Thanks for taking the time to video this.
I'm grateful. I made my own tool, and using all your techniques the job went easily. Much obliged, Nige
Cheers Nige !
Undo the top yolk pinch bolt first, then the top cap will be easier to undo. Your welcome
PS I also have a speed Twin and love it, your spot on with the front end comments over rough road. I'm not too heavy so the suspension is fine for me. Enjoyed your video cheers
Terry
Day 2 with my new speed twin weighing 90kg. Doesn’t feel as smooth over rough roads as my Tiger 800 but that’s to be expected. Let’s see what the future holds.
I WAS SCREAMING IT! lol my wife is like wtf are you saying. I was yelling UNDO THE PINCH BOLTS!
You didn’t loosen the top yoke pinch bolts which is why it was so tight
I've gotten a couple comments about that, which is funny because it wasn't mentioned in any instructions or walkthroughs I saw. I'm almost tempted to give it another shot. Almost...
@@VanBlamm And get a proper breaker bar instead of using the torque wrench
Things always turn out more complicated than expected! Thanks for your honesty - I’m fitting the TEC springs with preload adjusters on my Speedy - thanks for quoting the spanner sizes - helpful.
I used Tec springs on my old 865 and they were a revelation, will do the same for the new Street Twin in the spring.
best bike video ever! I got my first bike a few months ago and it seems that I not only have to learn to ride but also to be aa mechanic. So good to see such an honest video.
I've owned a speed twin for a year now and love it ! no need for suspension upgrade have the same bags too
Super useful for me ! I had been considering buying the Tec kit and having it installed by my fine mechanic (I would never do it myself), but my weight is even less than yours (64 kg) and I learned from you that I would be wasting my money to do this "upgrade". Thanks so much!
Nice! Yeah tbh unless you plan on taking your Speed Twin to the track, you'll probably be fine with the stock springs.
You need to slacken off the Allen bolts (hex key) on both sides of the top yoke. They are just below the 30mm nut you were trying to undo.
Great video just going to leave mine with stock suspension I have no problems with mine stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
I'm a computer nerd riding a Speed Twin trying to look cool. I have no mechanical skills at all and had problems removing the tank already.
So I appreciate your openes. 👍 I never even thought about removing the springs from the fork.
And I agree the other comments that Adam's videos are also great. He is not afraid to show failure either.
Step 12 could be segmented into smaller portions of pizza at step 1, 4 and 8.
Loving my Speed Twin 1200 too.
Great video Mr Blamm
Hey there, struggles shared i just changed the TEC fork springs yesterday on my Speed twin. It was really hard to unscrew the cap, I had to loosen top yolk bolts first (I figured out somehow, because as you said no one speaks about it),then it was really easy.
The second trouble was to put the cap back. There is a lot of tension ( the spacer comes out of the fork) so you need to both push and turn the cap with extra care by hand (the first one was challenging). I notice on their website, someone asked for shorter spacers (20 mn too long apparently) and i understand why. Hope this will not damage anything in near future.
It really changes the bike, first braking and you will see no more pumping, lot of progressivity added, totally worth it !
Good to know, thanks! I never returned the springs to TEC and am thinking about giving it another go once I'm back from Colorado
Enjoyed the video and your honesty about your wrenching skills.
Always use a breaker bar, not a torque wrench to loosen torqued nuts or bolts.
I lost it at "in this before and before comparison..."...this video reminds me of...well, me. Absolutely hilarious video!
I have the T120 and found the stock seat and rear suspension harsh so I priced up a seat and shocks for a total of about $1600. Then I solved the problem by strapping a memory foam cushion on to the stock seat for a cost of $25. Happy days.
Ingenuity at work, love it
I swear I can at least change my own oil
Hilarious and enjoyable video. Wonder if those springs are mandatory for two up safety. Really want a Speed Twin ⚡️
After reading the comments pertaining to this video, I wil not mention anything about how not to use a torque wrench and the need to loosen the pinch bolts first. I do, however, want to suggest the use of 6 point sockets to protect the surface finish of the hardware. 12 point sockets just don't get it especially when aluminum or soft metal fasteners are involved. Also, the use of adapters should be avoided at all costs.
at least you are honest in your failings / shortcomings . the ratchet should be fixable , but not in your hands of course .
About your…tip over and practically destroying your bike. Do you think crash bars, the ones I see on Bonnie’s would have prevented any damage??
Maybe the lower case?
Bars may have prevented the damage, but I really don't like how they look. I'd frankly rather look at my bike with scuffs on it than with dresser bars on it. However, I definitely should have gotten some of those low-profile case protectors when I first got the bike. Now I'm not as inclined to invest in protecting a case that's already damaged, but I may still get them.
Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to use a torque wrench to loosen things. Doesn't have to be a wrench-you could use a breaker bar with the socket, like you would typically do to loosen the nut at the rear axle when adjusting chain tension.
Thank you! I am learning a lot in these comments
I weigh 160 LBS and the stock suspension is absolute crap on anything other than glass smooth roads. I'm sick of getting bounced around all over the place and the bike just refuses to hold a line over mid corner bumps. Front and rear suspension are going to have to go unless I just sell the whole bike. I'm really thinking about going back to a Monster.
If you undo the top triple clamp allen bolts you won't have trouble undoing those fork caps,😂 but you know that.
Great video. Would have done exactly the same. 👍😎. Very informative.
🤪😂👍🏻👍🏻 excellent video. I too avoid the potholes to the best of my abilities ......
It takes a certain level of ineptitude to break a torque wrench. Kudos on that. I dont own a speed twin, rather a speedmaster, which is equally unimpressive in the front suspender department. I can, and have, lived with it for a year or so but it is something that will be addressed very soon. Being neither svelte or young, although not a deal breaker, I am disappointed that a bike costing 13000+ of my finest English pounds is so lacking in quality in this one area. Hopefully I will have more success than you when I attempt the modification, probably not if I'm honest. Stay safe from the Mother Country.
I liked the video. It was funny
I have the same type of lift but have been afraid to use it on my Triumph Speed twin because of the aluminum subframe did you have any issues and do Lyft from the aluminum subframe on the bottom
I've used it several times now for chain maintenance and haven't noticed any issues. My gut tells me it's okay because the two wide rubber pads spread the weight out, but I'll definitely keep a closer eye on it.
@@VanBlamm Thanks!
Try swapping the rear suspension. It's easy.
You should watch Adam Croll's RUclips video for rear suspension.
Yeah the rear seems much easier and I might still give that a shot at some point
I just don't get it... there isn't anything wrong with the stock suspension. This bikes handling will surprise most sportsbike riders out there
more before and before videos pls.
First mistake was going with TEC bike parts. I have their tail tidy for the speedy and it is cheap Chinese crap. I put nitron fork cartridge kit in. At 250lbs it was much needed.
I have the tidy as well and although it looks okay, the screws for the license light was too long which I found out after the fact. I was able to fix it by adding a rubber spacer but the center bolt for the tidy is not centered at all, I tried my best but it’s at a slight angle.
I found the same thing with those screws. They haven't created any problems yet but I've thought about fashioning some rubber spacers too. I like TEC's ingenuity and prices but the quality is hit or miss.
If someone is on the fence and is reading through these comments, the BC tail tidy worked out great. There are instructions for disassembly of the original parts and for attachment of the new parts which were easy to follow. Looks nice too.
@@VanBlamm ha-some people would use the phrase "intellectual property theft" instead of "ingenuity" when describing TEC. Take this from someone who bought one of their cheap Arrow exhaust knockoffs years ago...
Lynnie Johnson i was looking at the BC tidy too but the TEC was a bit cheaper.
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Ah ah ah 😂 hilarious!
Stealth young men of 70Kg R’Us!
Before vs. Before comparaison... ah ah ah
Imagine how much Pizza one can buy with 100USD!
Let the MODs for the nerds! Let’s just enjoy the ride as it is mate... hours saved and money not spent!
“Optimal” will always be the enemy of “pretty damn good-enough” 🧐🤔😏😉🤜🏼🤛🏼
Stay safe brother, ride cool and enjoy the sceenery ✌🏼👌🏼
How tall are you at 160 lbs. ?
5'9 on a good day
You don’t remove nuts and bolts with a torque wrench. You use a breaker bar silly . Gosh you’ll ruin the calibration of the tool . Is this the way you treat your children
You don’t develop mechanical skills. That’s like saying I can someday be a good decorator . Ain’t gonna happen. A real mechanic is like a medical doctor and has skills. Go to one .
Bwahahahaha...I'm exactly the same mate...
LOL
hahahahahaha
🤣😂 ..