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TC Electronics Mimiq || A bit of a Gimmick?
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2020
- For my Presets visit: johnnathancordy.gumroad.com/ I bought the Tc Electronics Mimiq for a friend who plays guitar in a 60s tribute band that I also play keyboards for. Gary wanted something to mimic the kind of double tracking tones you hear on tunes from the 60s like Hi Ho Silver Lining etc. specifically during solos.
He uses some version of a Vox AC15, and so this video is discussing what we found using the pedal, and replicating some of the results.
Conclusion - perhaps useful for creating a stereo spread, but without being to boost above unity gain, this pedal for me seems to have a slightly limited set of skills!
It creates such a massive image in stereo. Reminds me of the Boss DC-2w, my favorite stereo widener.
Yes, perhaps a touch of varied de-tuning should have been included within this pedal. After all that's whats creates doubling, not only time.
For everyone commenting "it's not for a single amplifier" or "this needs to be stereo to get the full effect". Yes. Tell that to TC - they haven't put it in the manual.
Just to say I think in the room the stereo double tracking was less obvious than when I got over closer to the monitors. Also there was a less pronounced volume drop than I perceived in the room.
Having said that, I think this pedal has some use for spreading the tone across a stereo field, but without being able to boost above unity gain it's a bit of a specialised pedal...
I have a Mimiq, and I've used it with one amp, two amps, and also after a reactive load in a recording environment.
To me, in mono the effect is kind of useless, and even with two amps, in the room there is no much difference to justify using it (to me).
When I record with it was very cool. It was a rock muted kind of thing and it worked amazing at that.
But, I find it very strange on cleaner settings and on lead playing.
Also, I believe that it kind of introduces phase variations because the two signals are not the same, and probably that's why you percieve a drop in volume.
Great channel!
I'm wondering if anyone has found settings that work in mono?
@@johnnathancordy I haven't, but probably with the tightness at 12 o clock or less, dry at full and blending a bit of the effect and maybe more dubs. (Making the effect more subtle but deeper?).
I don't know, but I agree with other comments that maybe a dimension c chorus could be a better choice for that thickening effect. There is a video where Matt Schofield talk about that trick with the dimension c, and he also plays with a "subtle" slapback delay to give more "weight" to the tone.
I mean, they are all different sounds and effects, but in essence all are time effects, where a dry signal is mixed with a delayed one.
Thanks for that. I've tried this over the years with different delays, running the delay time down as short as possible and thinking I should be getting the double tracked sound and had the exact same result. Nope.
Running it mono is honestly (IMO) useless... you get thicker sounds in mono running a subtle chorus pedal
Where the Mimiq truly shines is in true stereo, weather that be stereo amps or monitors after a mix
The Mimiq mini is made for only a mono path but I still run one of those in a stereo rig, one line completely dry and the other with the Mimiq mini in it completely wet to achieve a similar effect as the larger one.
If you look up Rabea’s stereo rig on RUclips he shows an example of his Mimiq and it’s an absolute BEAST at around 3 minutes or so 👌🏼
Great vid John, some of the sounds might suit other styles of music such as Rockabilly or Metal and as you say the stereo could be fun In the studio using different effects on either side, but as a live solo pedal It leaves a lot to be desired.
I got a chance to try the Iridium with my strat through a PA. It sounds fantastic and reacts great to overdrive pedals. But, I could not get the Fender setting to break up, even at the highest gain setting. I needed an overdrive to get the Fender setting to break-up. Also, it doesn't feel like a tube amp in the zone (the squishy feeling, the power sag feeling). But the sounds are spot on.
colaboytje Thats interesting on the Round amp. I’ve found it does get a bit of breakup at higher gain settings. Not a ton but definitely breaking up.
Have you seen the Helix video where the guy uses the Mimiq in the fx loop at the end of the chain, made his sound like one guitar just fatter sounding, did you run yours in front of or after iridium?
Why in god’s name are people trying to use this in a mono rig? It’s for use with two amps
Who uses two amps in 2020
@@johnnathancordy ...people who have more than one amp? Which I would imagine is quite a lot of guitarists? What does “2020” have to do with it?
@@slacktoryrecords4193 a) noone is gigging and b) many people have moved away from gigging with an amp at all.
@@johnnathancordy Playing out is not a requisite for owning two amps, and people aren’t going to sell their extra amps just because it’s 2020. And if people do play gigs without an amp, surely their rig has stereo capability? My original comment was about the futility of using this pedal in a mono rig, and I stand by that.
@@slacktoryrecords4193 I agree, but nowhere in the manual does it mention it, and that's the point of the video - if you're not using a stereo/dual amp rig - don't bother with the pedal!
needs to be run in stereo. Run one side into the amp and one to front of house with the amp as well. Perhaps use a Sonic IR pedal before the front of house line for a cheap but superb set-up. Needs to be stereo Mon.
I play death metal with it and it sounds awesome. I love this thing. When you record with it and hardpan left and right, it totally sounds like you've recorded two guitars. It's not super effective for leads unless you put different effects on each channel after the outs of the MIMIQ.
If you record on a computer there is no need for such effects. You only have to copy+paste your track, pan one left, one right, delay one of the tracks by a few milliseconds (between 5 and 30).
@@YQN2149 I can assure you it does more than that and that the MIMIQ effect is a lot more convincing that just delaying two tracks.
just bought one after seeing having no second guitarist in our future as a band ever, sounds promising on my first "dry runs" using two amps, haven't played it on a live gig but we had a festival coming in by the end of the month. playing on a death metal band as well. tho I'm pretty much got used in recording riffs over and over again on multiple tracks gotta give it a shot as well for our next song
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That pedal sounds good in one amp, but was designed to be used with two amps.
Now I wonder, what happen when you connect the tow outputs in one amp?
Maybe that improve the quality in one amp
Here is a link that could help you:
ruclips.net/video/CL9-vACwsYo/видео.html
Not according to the manual - this is absolutely a valid use case
damn bro u really like that jazzmaster, it’s gorgeous tho
kinda surprised it has such good pickups
I had and sold the mimic. I thought it wasn’t really useful into a single amp. I could tell the difference with and without it but didn’t feel like I felt it was worth having on my board. However, it really shined in a two-amp rig. Also I thought it made a bigger difference for heavy rhythm playing. Perhaps try it with a couple of your tube amps and play some rock/metal rhythm (maybe use the Strandberg-it needs more love lol) and see what you think in that scenario.
Or you could do the same setup using Iridium and Helix. Basically using completely separate amps.
You need to put it in stereo with 2 amps otherwise it's nonsense
Seems like a lot of the problem is coming from running this into your drive and not in the loop.
Real double tracked guitars don’t get run into the amp at the same time.
I Have this pedal and it needs to be stereo for full effect.
I don't disagree - but TC say the following:
"Since the Mimiq has stereo input and output jacks, you COULD incorporate it into a stereo setup with 2 different amps"
"(OPTIONAL amp
for stereo operation)"
It needs to be used with a stereo rig, or two amps. That is all. Period.
Agreed
You can't get the hi ho silver lining solo effect from a pedal. There's so much variation in the nuances of the two takes, and a pedal can't really replicate the spontaneity of that. In fact, at times, he's not even playing the same exact thing at the same part of the solo in the two takes. That's why that sound works as a sort of psychedelic effect even in mono. Something that might get you closer is the Strymon Deco, but even then, what you like about the sound of that solo has to be achieved manually. This pedal is fantastic for achieving that studio effect you alluded to which is often just done to achieve a larger more full soundstage when mixed in stereo.
Make some keys videos!
Noted!!
Yes
That's not how you're supposed to use it. It works best with a stereo setup, two amps.
I remember trying this pedal before and I caused these weird artefacts with the sound. Didn't like it at all.
One trick pony but not the trick you were hoping to see. 😂
Dude, you need to watch others showing how to actually correctly use the Mimiq....
It’s not for a single amplifier.
This was also my conclusion sir - but this is absolutely not what the manual suggests.