A New Express Bus Network for Staten Island
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2018
- Staten Island's new express bus network arrives August 19, 2018. Learn about the benefits of the new plan and how it will serve as a way forward for improving bus service across New York City. For more info: mta.info/SIExpress Bus #fastforwardnyc
For all those people with high expectations, heads up: those SI (?)M routes coming via New Jersey Turnpike are gonna be in for a rather unpleasant surprise what with the impending “Summer of Hell” changes dropping one lane of 495 in each direction to/from the Lincoln Tunnel
You're dumb
"Imagine giving 4 hours of your life to someone else..."
If you're commuting for work then you're going to give a lot more than 4 hours to someone else.
lol there's a commenter called Brian p that is dominating the comment section
Andrew Idstudent 😂
did you guys see me fight? ruclips.net/video/0VIHU1AfiHc/видео.htmlm46s
@@BabieBoyBlew I did.
Your commited. Good for you Brian.
Andy Byford is using key methods from the TTC in Toronto. .....WHY DONT NYC BUILD A NEW SUBWAY LINE CONNECTING STATEN IS-BROOKLYN-LOWER MANHATTAN
Flatbush Canada Any subway through Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan would be detrimental to current service. This would make reliability on the N, R, and W worse.
Instead, extend the HBLR over the Bayonne Bridge to the Staten Island Mall.
Because it would be stupid expensive (billions and billions of dollars, probably a lot more than the 2nd ave subway) and take several decades
What they need to do next is utilize Off Board payments for Express Buses just like they do on Select Bus Service.
Now we have Omni just scan your phone/card. - 2022
Why not build them another railway or subway that goes to Manhattan or Brooklyn?
Cowboy Bepop
Good point. Expensive proposition.
Cowboy Bepop They"ve kept the St.George Tunnel to Brooklyn unfinished since at least the 1920's.
What today is the R line was once thought to be extended to Staten Island - but Robert Moses killed that when he built the Verrazano Bridge, blocking any route.
It would be time consuming & costs a lot of money to do so
For one, while Brooklyn is the closest part of the entire state to Staten Island, New Jersey is still closer.
Darryl Irick: "as much as we can stream line and get them off of staten island in manhattan as quick as possiblwe."
me: "getting me into manhattan faster isnt getting me to where i need to go to if i have to transfer to two local buses in manhattan"
I suggest just Uber as soon as you get onto Manhattan.
I suggest the MTA lowers its price so I can afford 2 everyday. I'm paying more than double the price of a local fare for the express bus. If I now have to take more local service than express and express is no longer express but rather a shuttle then I should be paying local money, not express
@@BabieBoyBlew yeah express bus fare should be $5.50, not $6.75
Oh well
It’s an express bus it isn’t gonna go to everywhere you want to go
Hence why a local bus exists
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 After six months of fighting I got my route back, oh well 🙄
Hard to imagine that this has been 2 years since uploaded
What going over the Varrizana Narrows Bridge to Phit
This helps about 17% of the people on Staten Island and hurts everyone else who goes into Manhattan 🙄
Wanna start riding?
A few weeks into this change and I haven’t taken the same route twice, I’m trying to find a decent route and it doesn’t exist. My commute has increased by 30 min at least... who’s commute has improved since this change? Everyone I know is upset
I am a MTA Bus Fan and MTA Rail Fan here :D
You're not alone!
@@dj__projects yes he is
Than why are there 17 thumbs up to his comment?
@@dj__projects because he liked them himself
What about the local buses in Staten Island.
well how about making only one stop from transit center to manhattan
Can you use your metrocard for the express bus?
Mark Pine Yes, but regular unlimited metro cards (and CUNY ASAP ones as well) are not valid.
Hopefully Queens is next, you have express buses that go thru all of queens QM5, QM8, QM35 start at Union turnpike then make their way down to L.I.E making 20 stops getting packed to stand capacity then make its way back up to Union Turnpike for another 20 stops where nobody can fit anymore then go down queens Blvd to get back to the L.I.E it’s insane. Maybe they can also address the dollar vans that park in bus lanes and bus stops along Archer Ave and Stuphin Blvd. Maybe even turning some Q12 buses into a limited so it doesn’t make every stop to the subway durning rush hour.
brooklyn is Next
The X2 and X5 in Staten Island doing rush hour run every 7 minutes and I have standees to door after 3 stops
they already said the bronx is next.
citylimits.org/2018/06/20/mta-board-approves-new-si-bus-routes-talks-construction-contracts-and-worker-assaults/
jdavilla I don't know if you've ever ridden the Q27 into Flushing, but if you haven't, you're lucky. It's as crowded as the 7 train, which is where many of the Q27 riders go.
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I know, I drive the Q27.....no joke jim, no joke.....
Now all we need is more cameras to give people tickets every time somebody for the millionth time parks in the damn bus lane
Vincent Innocente: “this is a win win”
Me: “I went from taking one express bus to now having to take one express bus and two local buses. How is that a win win?”
I can’t wait for this to fail epically
Brian p
Vincent Innocente....LOL....LOL....... This is what I mean by checking their egos at the door!!!! I did a daily survey for about two month to add buses on the S93 in the afternoons and PMs. This information was faxed to the LOCAL 726 bus operators Union, the management of the depot where the s93 comes out of, to Staten Island Road Control, and to Staten Island Bus Track. After generating all that paperwork Mr. Innocente caught an attitude about it when he was asked to verify this information. I guess if the improvements didn't come from him It didn't really matter.
Adrian Cooper did you see me fight? ruclips.net/video/0VIHU1AfiHc/видео.htmlm46s
I was surprised that the MTA buses were completely new when riding them to every stopping destinations in Staten Island. I wonder what happened if the new MTA buses will come to Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn?
SIM routes are NYCT routes but sounded like MTA Bus routes. Weird but it would be super effective
Sailor Mars what's the difference?
Cowboy Bepop BxM, BM and QM Express routes are under MTA Bus which were originally from Private Companies.
Maybe the true merger of all MTA (bus) services is about to happen
Not clearly sure if they're gonna merge both divisions tho
Sailor Mars I think it was in their long term plan. I think they were gonna include Long Island Bus when they were still around
new Yorkers are lucky to have so many express bus routes since here in London we only have 3 (607,X26,X68)
most only operate early mornings and evenings in the peak direction
Sarah, Wyss; "we'll be able to offer more frequent service"
Buses are now set to come ever 9 mins, the MTA proposed to come every 4 mins. Where the problem lies is the buses come back to back and the dispatchers arent spacing them evenly. So if the MTA cant get it together now at 9 mins, do I believe you when you say every 4 mins? NO!
This is awesome. Keep making videos. I’m not from SI.
Still no train in staten island
Derp Trolling Just extend the HBLR over the Bayonne Bridge to the SI Mall.
Derp Trolling Also, an SI subway extension would run into capacity problems since there is no room in Manhattan to send extra trains. More specifically:
drive.google.com/file/d/1Y-5FFDDOcrCR1YRK8wI3HEFK7bsc06_K/view?usp=drivesdk
Cool, now add more Metrocard machines to the island.....and maybe make the S89 a full service
They will add more OMNY machines, since it is an official successor to the outdated MetroCard
@@agihiruda Where are they gonna put them? The only place to get Metrocards/OMNY in that Island is in Eltingville or St. George.
@@captainkekistan8396 They will likely to finish installing omny readers fully by 2025, which is the time when omny will arrive on the other modes of transportation by MTA such as LIRR and MN.
so here we are 6 months later. 6 monthsa after the SIM buses were forced upon us. and about 90% of everything thtas been changed has been added back.
old 1x had 27 stops. - new SIM1/SIM1c had 25 stops, customer complaints added them back, we are now back to 27 stops.
old 3rd ave bus stop has been eliminated. - New SIM buses added 2nd ave in place of 3rd ave - New, after complaints 3rd ave is back & 2nd ave remains.
old Richmond ave had bus stops that were eliminated in the New network. - NEW network has less stops - after complain ts all bus stops on Richmond ave have been added back.
I can keep going. like the x2 - eliminated - now its being added back.
This was all bull, it was a waste of money
Brian p the MTA chickened out they should have told em to walk their fat ass to the new stops
@@qjtvaddict you walk to tall a senior citizen to walk their fat ass to the next bus stop when they have arthritis and walk with a walker?
The truth is you can NOT change where people live. If you live deep into Staten Island then maybe you should move closer to the bridge which your buses use so you could have the short ride you long for.
Bet you didnt like that huh? well neither did the people who lost their bus stop so YOUR fat ass could get home quicker, oh i bet you didn't like that one too, lol
@@BabieBoyBlew Why not just take another Staten Island Bus route to the SIM Bus Stop?
I mean most of them serve stops along the way like the BxM4 Or BxM7 Does
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 Staten Island has the longest commuting to work time in the nation by 90 minutes. Why do you feel it’s OK to increase the time for me by taking additional services? Why do you feel it’s OK for me to spend express bus money and rely on local service daily?
Why is it OK for only Staten Island to go through a bus redesign that decreased service when we have the most expensive toll in the whole United States. The Verrazano bridge is owned and operated solely by the MTA, so why cut our express bus service? It’s not like we’re in the Bronx where we can take a local bus to the train into Manhattan like you
27stops for express oh hell no
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It's about damn time! The Department of Buses in the city of New York is so ass backwards it's ridiculous. Hopefully THEY can (1) set the internal political posturing aside (management check your egos at the door, with the purpose of getting something accomplished) (2) LISTEN to the Bus Operators when it comes to aperating equipment and route changes, (3) Listen to the MEANINGFUL suggestions of its riding public, and finally (4) Carefully analyze all information and implement positive and effective changes to the routes in the city of New York to the benefit of all its riding customers. NOW, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!
These videos always look like they're trying to sell me something
they are
THEIR LIES!!!!
x2= 4.7 mile with 21 stops/ the new SIM10 = 9.2 Miles with 25 stops
MTA claims "shorter routes with less bus stops" ITS ALL LIES!!!!!!!
You're at a midpoint, Brian.
@@BabieBoyBlew you're an idiot
this part of new york city?
Yes it isיהודה יאגודייב
Why "SIM"? Doesn't "SM" work?
Nelson Ricardo SIM Means Staten Island- Manhattan SM WOULD mean Staten-Manhattan
It's worth noting that the Local and Limited Routes have the "S" abbreviation instead of "SI".
Jessica Cignarella : "implementing double bus lanes on 5th ave"
Me;" theres a bus lane on 5th ave now, its not enforced, plus there are so many cabs trying to make right turns that they will be either in the bus lane trying to turn or jump over from the 3rd lane into both bus lanes to make a right turn. without no right turns from 57th st to 23rd st between rush hours this will not work" Plus are you guys seriously trying to get every staten islander to wait on the most tourist and crowded ave in new york city, you guys really trying to get them all 42nd and 5th. every bus is going to fit at the same stops, LMFAO"
I think im going to skip this mickey mouse project and go back to the Ferry
Great!!!
Awesome
In the long-run, NYDOT gonna have consider a transbay subway tunnel between Manhattan or Brooklyn and S.I. or a commuter train that goes from Midtown through New Jersey into Staten Island. Is it costly?... HELL YES! But how much spending in resources have partake in the past century?... Population will continue to rise; no express buses nor ferries is gonna be able to keep up with the density. Invest for the next 10-15 years New York.
MJofLakeland1 The NYDOT Those not control The Subway the MTA NYCT Does And Ots Expensive 5 miles Long And Were trying to make the Subway Better Cleaner And Reliable Why Make a tunnel And Plus The Idea sounds Like crap cuz you don’t even know who controls the Subway THE COMPANY THAT OWNS IT IS PRINTED ON EVERY BUS AND TRAIN
MJofLakeland1 Or an HBLR extension to the Staten Island Mall.
Yes they should build a Subway tunnel from Manhattan to Staten Island and one from Staten Island to New Jersey.
And another Subway tunnel from Manhattan to New Jersey
They finally mention a change for Staten Island.
Jonathan" the new net work stops an average of 15 stops"
me:" so you stop the x10 and x14, that each have 20 stops, from getttng off the highway and going "targee/hylan/fingerboard. cutting them down to 11, but you extend the x2 from 4.7 miles long to 9.2 mile and having 21 stops to 24...
How dare you show the x1 bus route has 27 stops, followed by a graph that shows the new network to have 15. you are going from 27 stops to 25 stops, oh wow big whoops
What’s the problem with less stops?
Is that that hard to extend the SIR to manhattan? Come on. It has been delayed for a century don't know the reason they refuse to do that.
David Wu Cost is too high. How about enhanced bus and ferry service instead for the meantime.
@@TheRailLeaguer Too high cost is always the excuse that has been used ever since. Just a few miles of tunnel won't cost that much. Especially in the No.1 city in the No.1 country in the world. They have been wasting money at here and there continuously ignoring the NEED or staten islanders. If they spare a little bit of money they would waste elsewhere, the rail tunnel would have been in place a long time before.
David Wu True, But there’s always logistical reasons as well. Not to mention lack of adequate connections at the Manhattan end of the connection. A lot of the B division lines are maxed out as well.
It’s a great idea, but it needs more study as well.
@@TheRailLeaguer I understand there's a lot of hardship to overcome regarding a massive infrastructure. However, we can clearly see that this tunnel is really not a priority or the politicians ever since they stopped connecting it to 59th st in brooklyn. If ever it's finished, the commuting time will at least drop in half.
David Wu There could also be opposition to a subway line on the distant isle.
I give it one week to see the true results of these express routes 😒
At this point, Staten Island should just leave New York state and join Alabama
Sam C Dude the only State Closet is New Jersey And In states island the S79 Goes to Brooklyn But I mean the express service was barely Reliable that’s why I take S59 To Brooklyn
No thanks
Sam C What?
they need to shorten the S79 bus to Brooklyn from Staten Island Mall. Now taking 1.5 hrs just to travel to Brooklyn every day.
they did drastically shorten it. It used to be 2 & 1/2 hours
I've seen the S79 outpace the X1 up Hyland many a day. It's the S78 the longer route or just as long?
The S78 is the longest of the MTA's local bus routes. It's shy of 20 miles by 0.3 miles. Not helping is the fact that it makes all local stops.
MTA = Vince McMahon
And that is how the bus redesign network has begun.
I want the SIM routes and the manhattan-staten island X routes to co-exist
What.
sonicboy678 NY stupidity
Nothing they do will change the bottleneck coming home entering the battery tunnel the FDR gets jammed from bk bridge all the way thru the underpass sometimes 40 minutes plus crawl and the same happens on the turn from Broadway it's a joke that has to be addressed
Unfortunately, those are issues the city needs to address.
Can u add a V train back pleaseeee
First, no, as the M has proven to be rather popular, whereas the V was significantly emptier.
Second, what does that have to do with Staten Island?
GOOFY 7868 Dude the V Train Ended Because Of Budget Cuts Where the M Used to go was Useless Cuz barely anybody Was on it so they Used the M To replace The V The V Was Barely Used so why Bother paying for a service that nobody uses and replace it With a Service that goes to a route that the D goes to On the West End Line During Rush Hours And Were talking about Express Buses Not Subway And they Might add the T And extend Second Avenue Subway to 125 Street
I see people keep saying they have to take two local buses in Manhattan to get to work. But my question is, why are you taking buses in the city to begin with? Trains are faster, just transfer to one that gets closest to your job and walk.
The one really complaining is already going to Midtown, so it just becomes an issue of walking.
In that case, you're better off sticking with the express bus. The accessibility improvements won't be available for some time, and even when they do, your Manhattan options are extremely limited.
Brian p From the video of you at an MTA board meeting about the SI bus redesign, you didn’t look disabled to me.
Tabatha Decker: “Staten Island has some of the longest commute time in the country”
Me: “ so your suggestion is to cut my bus line and make me have to transfer twice, taking 3 buses in whole to get to work?! Tell me again how this is going to shorten my commute time if I have to now take 2 local buses in Manhattan on top of an express bus”
Lies lies lies, I can’t wait for this to fail on an epic level.
You forgot the almost half-mile treck to the new bus stop.
glad i left that shit island and moved to williamsburg but its sad express bus on staten island isnt worth it , it would take well over an hour to lower manhattan from the transit center
Problem is the UBER drivers dubble parking in the bus lane every fucking block
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I wish miami had the public transportation that ny has
Trust me, Miami is in a better position than MTA is right now. Maybe some east-west subway lines wouldn't hurt for MIA
No you don't. I'm from Miami. I don't want this confusion in my neighborhood when they ended the 70 and made the 35 and 35a. It made no sense. All we need is a Metrorail extension and more direct bus routes into south Dade and we would be fine.
Why is there no direct subway line from Manhattan to Staten Island or a direct subway line from the Bronx to Queens? What kind of "win-win" is this? And not even a direct subway line to Staten Island to Brooklyn? Ok, Mta.
nycbk23 I said the Bronx to Queens.
They started a line a Brooklyn to SI there's even a few hundred feet of track under Owl Head Park. City/BMT lost interest and funding.
And bring all the weirdos from Brooklyn & Manhattan to Staten Island? No thank you.
I Understand.. the tradeoff enjoy your hour plus commute.
the raid was boring so now i have to do it myself Any subway extensión through Downtown Brooklyn would be detrimental to current service.
Instead, an HBLR extensión over the Bayonne Bridge would suffice.
Before I took an express bus and then walk a few blocks to work. Now I get to take an express bus, a train and then walk a few blocks to work.
How is this supposed to help make my travel easier when the train aren't reliable?!
Simple more trains
Kawaii Waifu The trains are reliable. What are you talking about?
@@TheRailLeaguer How much did the MTA pay you to respond?!
Kawaii Waifu That joke (about payoffs) is getting too old.
@@TheRailLeaguer It's not a joke when it's true.
$238 bucks a month for express bus with an average time from door to door being 50mins to 1hour and 15 mins
$121 bucks a month for local bus and train service with an average time from door to door 1 hr & 25-35 mins.
Is saving 20-40 mins of time worth paying $117 more a month. - YES!!!!
BUT NOW KNOWING THAT I WILL HAVE TO TAKE ONE EXPRESS BUS AND 2 LOCAL BUSES GOING TO BE WORTH IT?
NOPE!
Before its the MTA's money its my money and I spend my money how I best see fits. This is not going to fit for me.
BYE i'll be saving my money and take the local way now, THANKS MTA
What.
sonicboy678 am I surprised someone as ill informed as you could possibly grasp what I’m talking about, lol nope
That's nice. Look below the cut.
I'm not here to have a "look" or care about how I'm "perceived" or to even "cut" you or anyone else. I'm here to be honest and call peoples bull s*** out when I see it. I will not be lied to.
sonicboy678 did you see me fight? ruclips.net/video/0VIHU1AfiHc/видео.htmlm46s
Jonathan Hawkins is the biggest liar out of all of them. I personally confronted him with how this isnt going to work n& what could possibly work. He purposely didnt listen to me and told James Oddo to ignore me back in Febuarys meeting at seaview hospital. why would he do this you may be wondering, all because i told him that whoever made this map doesnt know staten islanders and what they're needs are. he then admitted to me he doesnt live on the island and shrugged his shoulders. He took what i said personally because hes the one who did most of the work on the bus routes.
Johnathan, please go back home to long island. Stop telling my community what they should do. and no Jonathan, i still didnt drive so stop telling em to drive to the park n ride on father cap
MTA's poor management won't extend SIR to manhattan or Brooklyn in 100 years.So sorry that Staten Islanders will continue to suffer.
Imagine having to pay 2.75 To get to Manhattan when it’s free On the Ferry It will close a Buck Ton Of money And it’s a few miles long making a tunnel yeah but making it underground that takes lots of time plus it’s prob 5 miles long so instead of paying you get a ferry for free
That sucks but why?
David Wu Any SI extension through Downtown Brooklyn would be detrimental to current service due to bottlenecks in the system.
However, an alternative that is available is extension of the Hudson Bergen Light Rail over the Bayonne Bridge to the Staten Island Mall. The line would have provisions for takeover by the PATH train as an extension of its 33rd Street service.
David Wu Neither won’t current track capacity constraints in Manhattan:
drive.google.com/file/d/1Y-5FFDDOcrCR1YRK8wI3HEFK7bsc06_K/view?usp=drivesdk
I bet none of these effers have ever had to commute by bus.
Andy Byford: “we listen to commuters”
Me: “ uh no you didn’t, I personal told you back in February that after midland and hylan there is no Madison Ave bus and no west side bus. You told me you would look into it. Nothing has been changed. But do I expect Andy not to lie when he got caught back in March lying about train lateness”
All he told you was that he would look into it. That's not a guarantee that there would be a change.
But he also said he listened to commuters when he didn't. LIES LIES LIES!
The way you keep going with that indicates a "need" to be catered to, rather than the understanding that resources are limited, requiring sacrifices to be made, especially with the consolidation of services to better suit people and reduce potential confusion about what goes where. Granted, it doesn't work for everything, but this is about a network that is most frequent during peak periods and sports a ridiculous number of variants that sometimes make no sense (Hylan Boulevard alone has *8* variants during peak periods, with the primary route inexplicably being cut back to 23rd Street instead of somewhere by the Financial District).
I'll also give you a piece of advice. Whatever you do, *don't* bluff on full tilt, or you'll make yourself look foolish. Better yet, learn to control that temper, or you'll make yourself look foolish.
I really don't know who is benefiting from this change...I would be taking the SIM 2...they got rid of so many bus stops. Now the bus starts on HYLAN and CRAIG...Seriously..by the time it get to Rossville there would be no seats. My bus stop was eliminated..I would have to WALK to another bus stop...after I would be lucky enough to find a parking spot on Arthur Kill Road. Then they took the Park Place stop away also..now I would have to WALK 1 Avenue and 2 blocks to get to my office. I guess I wouldn't mind so much if I were younger and not walking with a cane. So if I have to do all this walking anyway..I might as well drive to the SIR..FERRY and then 3 stops on the train...at least it will leave me off right across the street from my office. and I won't feel like I been ripped off..paying them $6.50 for an inconvenience they have now cost me and a lot of people. I read somewhere where they are making it harder for people..because they want everyone to take train and ferry...well they convinced me.
If you have a car why take the bus
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 buses are cheaper, more comfortable, and you don't need to find parking on a bus
James Oddo: “it’s hard to call it an express bus when it has 27 stops”
X2 has 21 stops - SIM10 has 24
Lies lies lies! Can’t wait for this to fail epically.
Wow, three more stops on a longer route with a sharp reduction in stop frequency. That's terrible. We should totally leave things as they are.
sonicboy678 you have no idea what you are talking about.
On the contrary.
sonicboy678 right now you have the x9 that does the west side and 6th ave. Then you have the x2 that does Madison Ave. both the x9 & x2 start in new dorp, both has 4.7 miles on the island with 21 stops.
The x9 is getting completely cut. No more west side ave bus. The x2 is given a new name SIM10 and is being extended by 5.6 more miles. Making a new total of 9.2 miles. This new extended version, SIM10 will no longer do Madison Ave, it will be going up 6th ave.
So now 2 bus got combined into 1 and the length of the route doubled, and more stops got added.
Your mind is so small that I don’t expect you to grasp just how bad that commute will be. But what I do is expect is for you to stop trolling me. If it doesn’t concern you and you have little knowledge you should be quite.
You’re thinking that I’m upset because a bus route just added three stops, lol nah that’s silly, shhhhhh
I saw the barrage of comments you left. They make you look like an angry, lazy bum.
The fact that you dedicated one to the number of stops and put the route lengths in a separate one fails to help your case. The same goes your complaint of not having a bus on Hylan Boulevard east of Midland Avenue to Madison Avenue stops, especially given that Madison Avenue is far from distant when placed in relation to the SIM10's route.
And let's be honest here. The purpose of this redesign is to provide more consistent service.
This is sickening.
Read other peoples comments. They state my opinion better...
JUST MAKE TUNNELS THAT RUN THROUGH STATEN ISLAND. SMFH HATE MTA.
Shah Alladin What?
I'll say this much, at least the people in NYC 🗽 have some got damn sense, the bus system here in west palm beach, FL is a big ass joke, no transfers, or express bus service only good thing they have is tri rail