M3 MacBook Pro Review - DON'T Make a Mistake!
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The M3 MacBook Pro has been a complete rollercoaster of an experience for us. From being stuck to Ventura and not being able to update to Sonoma, to constant crashing in FCP and us not being able to complete our testing. Here's the full story and why you might want to avoid the base 8GB RAM M3 MacBook Pro :)
Hope you enjoy the video! It's been very difficult to make (and this is an understatement). We were supposed to have it live on Wednesday, but ended up delaying it to Thursday and then further to Friday, as we were having constant issues with the M3 model. Plus - we even bought an M2 Pro Mac mini, just to get the FCP benchmarks re-tested. And the results were (very) unexpected!
My brother worked in Apple tech support for years, they would always give internal feedback on customer issues to the hardware and software teams. There were always more problems with new models, and he strongly advises not to buy launch day hardware. (I know you have to!) But, most issues are with new OS & bugs - I don't know why they launch new macs just after a new OS. Asking for trouble.
What is the smartest purchase? M3 pro with 11 or 12 cores? M3 Max 14 or 16 cores? My question refers to each range, looking at prices and quality regarding efficient cores and true cores, which one do you recommend buying. I don't want to make a mistake. (price and quality I suppose)
You guys need to upload much faster, most of tech hypes goes away after 7-8 days and you guys are always uploading way too late to take advantage of the hype
Would love to see a follow-up with the base M3 but with 16 or 24 GB of RAM to see if that helps alleviate the issues?
Can mac play path of Exile game?
Awesome review. So far, everyone is comparing the base MacBook Pro M3 alongside a loaded 16" M3 Max with 48GB. This is one of the few reviews that goes deep on the M3 Pro. Much appreciated!
Perfect breakdown. I was heavily looking forward to the m3, thank god I found this first. Love your vids!
Wow, by far the best review on M2 pro / M3 / M3 Pro. Excellent video!
While Apple is known for its commitment to environmental sustainability, their decision to solder the RAM and SSD on motherboard and charge a hefty price on their customer.
This design choice, while allowing for thinner and lighter devices, does mean that these components cannot be upgraded or replaced by the user.
As a result, a device may become obsolete more quickly if it cannot keep up with increasing software demands or if a component fails.
This potentially contribute on electronic waste, as users may need to replace the entire device rather than just upgrading a single component.
It’s a complex issue that balances the desire for compact, high-performing devices with the need for sustainability and waste reduction.
No ARM is a system on chip (SOC), just like phones and tablets, but no one complains. Why? Because tech has moved on from the last century modularity, that was there because that was the only solution. You must adapt to a changing world, as the norm will be a SOC.
Another “sustainability” benefit with Apple is that you can literally use these machines ten years later, no problem.
Yeah they want you to bring them back so they can recycle them
@@andyH_Englanddon’t think anyone was actually complaining about the non-upgradable RAM on the Apple Silicon machines. But the SSD being non upgradable is inexcusable. Even when it is technically upgradable on the Mac Studio it’s still software locked. And unlike RAM, SSD would actually fail overtime, while the chance is still not very high, it’s still very possible
Thank you for the video, it helped a lot. So do you recommend a refurbished MacBook? I am thinking about getting one, but I don’t feel sure buying a refurbished one. Thank you again.
This has been one of the best reviews I have seen about these two laptop models 👍🏽💯
This review just created more questions for me about the M3 Pro. What was the problem with the error messages? Does the M3 Pro have to have more memory? Do you plan on a follow-up review using more memory on the M3 Pro? Will Apple send you a test computer? You have 1.49 million subscribers so I'm sure they would if asked. Thanks.
Excellent stuff, thank you for the comparison with the M1 Pro!
Great video. What is this edited with? And do you use a plugin for the circle cam in the right corner?
I'm about to purchase a new MacBook soon and I'm considering the Pro line up as I might be having some product designing and rendering work in my college, so is the base M3 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM a good choice? From where I live, a used/refurbished M2 Pro MacBook is more expensive than a brand new M3 + 16GB. Should I go for my choice or hold back?
Great analysis! Thank you for doing the research for us all.
Our pleasure!
I like Space Black, but am worried about the shell oxidizing like Space Gray does, which is why my current MacBook is silver-colored.
I prefer the not too black and matte looking, the new color is glamorous!
One of the best reviews I have seen. Thanks a ton.
Thanks Daniel for this. I am looking to finally replace my old intel macbook pro. The two I am seriously considering are the macbook pro with either the m3 pro or the m2 pro. It looks like the refurbished model is winning at the moment...
The problem with the M3 Pro could be that Apple lowered the bandwidth from 200 down to 150. Also having at least 16GM of ram helps.
I skipped this and bought a very lightly used silver m2 pro 14 inch with 27 battery cycles for $1442 AND it comes with applecare+ for another year and a half. Essentially a deal that cannot be beat
Where you got it bro
Where did u get that deal
Wow amazing deal
How many gb of RAM tho?
Pre-owned doesn’t mean anything! You’ve gotten a good deal. Sounds like it was bought for a student who used it for college or maybe someone who tried it and didn’t like it/get on with MacOs. Especially with applecare+ you’ve got a steal right there
Crashing isn’t a new or M3-exclusive problem
I had the original M1 13” MBP (Touch Bar) and after not very long it started crashing even just exporting fairly simple videos! And I mean crashing the entire laptop, not just DaVinci or FCP
I upgraded to a 16” M1Pro soon after and haven’t looked back since! it’s still king, literally hasn’t given me one iota of trouble, and I can’t see myself needing to upgrade for another 5-7 years at minimum
Maybe you answered this question in the video and if so, I apologize but would the M2 Pro be able to function using final cut without the mac mini?
Great video man..I got an indirect answer to my question. Where I live currently there is a good discount going on for unbinned M1 Pro with 1TB SSD. The difference advertised is roughly 800 USD discount bringing the MacBook to less than 1900 USD. It’s not refurbished it’s brand new as well so I am going for that. I am just curious how long will m1 line up get OS update?
Likely at LEAST another 5-7 years, wouldn’t worry about that at all
Looking to upgrade from a 2008 intel mbp with mid spec upgrade at the time. I don’t use it for anything major, but if I want to future proof myself, do I really need 24gb of ram or will 16 be plenty? My 2008 had 4 gb of ram. It just completely died this week.
I decided on just the M3 because I don't really need the processing power of the M3 Pro or Max chips - only downside is the omission of the USB C port on the right hand side - would have found it handy to charge it from that side too. I guess the upside is the extra (supposedly) 4 hour battery life.
Well explained thank you
thxxx for this!
for me battery life and screen brightness is number one so I would go with the m3 over m2
i've switched from m1 air to m3 pro, battery life sucks. 6-8 hours on light use with normal brightness, low power mode.
Best reviews on RUclips. Thank you!
I’m looking to buy my first MacBook Pro for music production and am still unsure which one to get anybody got any suggestions??
I have an old 2016 base MBPro.
I’ll probably upgrade to the M2 Pro next summer
Where can u get that frm ??? Refurbished??? Bcoz apple he discontinued its production
Thank you very much for the review! 11:51 This is such dedication for the review. 5 stars!
Well explained 👍
Thanks for this. I scored a mbpro m2pro for 1599 new Black Friday. I was stuck on if I should cancel that order and go with the similar “upgraded” build with an m3pro for 1799. It seems like I should be content with saving the 200 bucks.
Do you think the base model M3 pro specs 11 core cpu is good enough for normal usage and video editing?
Recently I’ve bought a MacMini M2 pro (16/512). Should I return it and buy a macbook pro with M3 pro?
Is the screen at least better? I have the M1 Pro 14" MBP and I LOVE it. It's a fantastic laptop but one thing that bothers me a little bit is the blurry screen. What's the point of having a 120hz screen if the pixel response time is so slow that any movement on the screen results in blur? It's REALLY noticeable especially if you have a gaming high refresh rate screen that doesn't suffer from this slow pixel response time. It's night and day. The screen is very bright and colourful though so it's not trash by any means but the blur is a bit annoying.
If you’re gonna spend 1600, refurbished m2 pros are still available on apples site. Seems like a better deal to me for the extra ram
If you need 16GB of RAM, then the base M3 should not be on the radar, especially as it is not even the M3 Pro chip like the M2 Pro you mentioned.
1600 is hilariously sad for used system. Why you guys put up this scummy company? Get a framework laptop or build a pc and put in hackintosh
@Steel0079 an m1 pro smokes the framework in performance.
im glad it is showing good results for m3 base pro model compared to pro m2 and m3 reason being next month im attempting to get it if my m1 imac with upg ram gives me enough founds to afford it with 1000 euro in hand reason being so fast to buy is time limit and yearly upgrade, from ianuary i have many issues to attend to so i can not wait till new year and that is why im rushed since the more i wait the more i hesitate since i think of the pro and max differences where the headache starts, right now m3 base pro model start at 2000 euros and m2 pro limited stock at 2050 not alot but i may not have enough for it, and m3 pro start at 2150 which i want but ofc it all depends on my imac buyback value. regardless it is an upg compared to my imac and i wanted to start going into macbook pro anyway so even if i get weakest pro model im happy to test out latest tech inside, while ofc i wanted a max chip to properly game but right now max cost twice as much as pro. there is discont on m1 max but idk if it is worth it nor can i afford it.
So, I dont really do heavy video, just stills w/ C1 and PS
- should I go for maxed out MB Air 24GB 2TB, or somehow basic M3 w/ 24GB and 1TB ?
I can not see a displays difference, really !? I do like 15" MBA bigger screen and it also feels lighter! And I cant stand dark aluminum finishes of new M3 and MBA : smudges and finger prints - will stay always w/ Space Gray!
How does memory bandwidth affect the performance of- could this relate to the failures?
Another GREAT video!
Thank you as always Dan, hope you’re well. Xx❤😊
Reviewers keep talking about the Space Black not being that black when they're in a studio with giant lights pointed at it. It's not vantablack or anything but I saw one at Best Buy yesterday and it's definitely darker than I expected given all the "it's just a darker space grey" comments. In a room with normal lighting, it's pretty blacked out.
Would it be worth going for the m3 pro if you upgrade to 32 ram?
bro.
choose Macbook pro
M3 pro 14 inch ( 1 TB SSD) but i confusing which specs enough for graphic designs and 4k video editing works ???
X
11 core CPU, 14 core GPU ( m3 pro)
36gb ram or
12 core CPU, 18 core GPU (m3 pro)
RAM: 36 GB
Does the display cause eye strain when used for long hours(8-9)?
Can you perform a Blender BMW benchmark test with the M3 Pro? (GPU - Metal RT: Enabled)
Very good video and totally agree with your recommendation at the end
M3 Pro Chip is a great upgrade from my intel MacBook Pro
I am planning to buy a new MacBook. In my nearby store M2 pro 16 inch is cheaper than M3 pro 14 inch. Can anyone suggest which would be the best option.
Superb comparison Daniel. Thanks.
IMHO the best purchases are a refurbed M2 Pro with 16 gigs of RAM or the binned M3 Pro with 18 gigs of RAM.
The M3 is a useless middleground for pro users and a very expensive laptop for light users
don't know why they would want to take away the third port making a headache for people who need all three ports. I'm glad my M1 has three. Sometimes I use them all and I keep my terabyte memory stick always plugged in on the right now for easier file backup/saving.
I still don't understand why there is even a need to mention that it's unnecessary to upgrade last years machine... Of course it is. If you are not still on a Intel Machine, it doesn't make any sense to upgrade yet. But if you are... Yeah, probably a refurbished M2 Pro is a good machine to check for.
Final Cut Pro on the M3 needs 16gb ram, not 8. Must be a software issue for now..
M3 is lighter and can really feel the difference when comparing in the hand
When it simple doesn't work call it CRAPPLE. :) You are the sweetest dude! Thanks for the years of great reviews!
I’m watching this as I’m still rocking my 2017 MacBook Pro that I got used back in 2020… 😅 The M1 Pros and up almost require taking out a loan to own one! Lol
🤔Should I get the 14 inch MacBook M2 Pro with 16gb RAM and 1T SSD ?
There are another pair of nand chips on the other side of the logic board for M3 Pro. So in total there are 4 of them.
What about the m1 pro 2021 are there any differences in the macbook
Please the Logic Test with m3 pro 6/6 Core vs M2 Pro
Where I live, refurbished m2 pros are much more expensive than what is mentioned in the video. I wonder if it makes sense today to buy an M1 pro (which I can find at an affordable price). What do you guys say? My fear is buying a model that will have major updates for fewer years than an M3
You still got another 5-7 years till they might stop giving major software updates to the M1
@ZONEofTECH Can you check whether this macbook heat up when connected to a external monitor?
how i know if the CPU is M3 or M3 Pro? on most computer shop they only put M3, not sure if it is a Pro CPU or a normal M3.
Please do compare the battery life of the M3, M3 Pro, and M2 Pro models (if possible, also the M2 MacBook Air models). Apple states that the M3 MacBook Pro can last 22 hours, while the others can last only 18.
I’m still confused as to what to buy. Should I wait yet another generation. I still have a MacBook Pro with Touch Bar from like 2017.
Stay as long as it works
I have a 16GB 13" M1 MacBook Air - It's great. I suggest you get one of those or if you want to connect to multiple displays or need more ports, get a Refurbished M2 Pro MacBook Pro
How about the base m3 macbook pro with the ram upgraded to 16gb? 🤔
Great video
Have u really watched😅💔
They just diluted black color more for lower end devices. Next year there will be really black version for the top end. What an exciting time to be alive in.
So the m2 pro is btr then the newer m3 I guess, but how do I even get the m2 pro now since Apple remove it completely from their website
What is the smartest purchase? M3 pro with 11 or 12 cores? M3 Max 14 or 16 cores? My question refers to each range, looking at prices and quality regarding efficient cores and true cores, which one do you recommend buying. I don't want to make a mistake. (price and quality I suppose)
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Please make a video on 16 inch M3 MacBook Pro base model
Isn't the binned M1 pro. Will the 10 core version perform much better ?
yes
Daniels doing some nice work here separating the evolution of the technology from the way Apple is productizing them. There appears to be an interesting story..Apple is trying harder to push folks upstream to Pro/Max
Or to an Air if they don’t need the power. My takeaway is they are actually trying to make the Pro for professionals and not students or basic web browsing work. Those people will be happier with the new 15” Air. They don’t need the extra power. I like the overall direction, seems to make sense.
I’m literally this close to getting a pro MacBook but
The storage / ram configuration for price
For a low quality design display is stopping me.
I don’t see why the video doesn’t have chapters in the description
And yet here i am watching this on my 2011 MacBook Air with 2 gb ram :')
Why are the prices only in USD why not in as well GBP? Is it because you have more people watching you in the USA now?
Why is everyone talking about the M3 chip only? Hasn’t anyone noticed the ghosting issue on this “120hz ProMotion” display due to the pathetically low pixel response time of over 50ms?!!🤨 I didn’t know until I bought one 🤨
so you returned it?
Apple keeps lying to consumer about its “scary fast” new MBPs when it is not better than older, cheaper M2s & M1s.
i have ordered the baseline model only one i could afford but can anyone tell me if it will perform okay editing iphone images/videos on lightroom
I would like to know this as well
I’m an IT tech in college, and that should be perfectly fine as long as it isn’t heavily sufficient for the laptops ram. Check when you get your laptop with benchmark.
If you were getting this MacBook m3 base model off of Amazon would you recommend getting the protection for it?
Well as for me I have to finish watching before I can genuinely comment so wait for me... lol 😜
Space Grayer?
Do Final cut still crash in march 2024?
When are they launching m3 air
Does the display of m3 pro and m2 air cause eye strain when used for long hours(8-9)?
AIR is you best bet, well known screen - but it was mentioned by some users than PRO screen (new mini led) can cause eye strain, because it has slow pixel response time and ghost effect, it is 120Hz screen, but held back by very slow response time. (35ms to 69ms) , moving stuff (window, dragging, scrolling, fast movie scenes, gaming) content becomes blurry. But not sure how much it bothers people, most are fine with it.
I just got the base M3 MacBook Pro 14' :( I got it for under $1600 with tax included though. Seems like a bad choice in hindsight.
I always heard reviewers said it is the best compared to other Window Laptop. So could we use ANSYS WORKBENCH, Abaqus, SolidWorks, 3D Max, Robot Structural or other engineering softwares on it?
Will you be doing an M3 pro $2400 review?
MBP M1 16" 512/16 GB for $1,350 Apple Certified at Microcenter. Just picked it up yesterday and it's a dream!
Don't buy any Apple "pro" laptop with 8 GB of RAM, certainly not at the price currently.
I think it is macbook air m3 that has cooler and pro name which means next air would be more disabled 😢
What about Air M2?
Please compare M3 Max, M3 pro and M2 Pro
Wheres the proper gpu benchmark comparison?
Apple problem is that the M1 pro/max are so good that there is no real reason to upgrade, maybe at M5 or M6.
I got my 14’ M3 pro 18gb RAM 512GB storage in space black for $1699 open box from Best Buy. Looks brand new. Saved me enough to get AppleCare.
512gb enough ?
Want to buy the m2 pro , but cant find it anywhere 😢
Macbook M3 durability test pls
The M1 & M2 is winning now but wont be for long, why you may ask? When they release that special ‘MacOS Update’ that accelerates & optimizes the M3 chip even more, all prior ARM M pros will take a hit, especially when the official numbers roll in about suffering M3 sales. Mark my words, this is common Apple fiddling.
I am selling my MacBook m1 pro 14 inch for 1500
Only 7 battery cycle completed bought it this year
It’s literally mint