No Go Britain: disabled public transport access
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2016
- Ask any disabled person about public transport and you're virtually guaranteed to hear a horror story. Whether it's taxis charging disabled passengers higher fares, people trapped on trains, or just plain old inaccessible stations. Throughout 2012 this programme revealed the trouble of simply getting around when you're disabled.
Four years on, in the latest part of our No Go Britain series, we wanted to know if it had got any better. Jacqui Adeniji-Williams has been to find out.
the irony of this being about accessibility whilst only having auto generated captions/subtitles
At Newbury Park station (Central Line) they spent millions on renovations hoping that there will be lift. There was no lift, just fresh coat of paint on walls and stairs. I am not a wheelchair user, but this is appalling.
Mau same in Gants Hill and they did spend loads of money why can't every station have a goddamn lift it isn't that hard?
Mau Lifts cost a lot of money, paint costs peanuts and looks nice. Docklands aside, I would never encourage someone in a wheelchair to use the underground. Some stations may be step-free, but the information is frequently inaccurate or completely wrong.
Far too many stations don't have any wheelchair or scooter access, like Walkden, and Squire's gate at Blackpool to name just two appalling examples. And Squires gate doesn't need any lifts, it just needs the now singled track moving over to the other now disused platform and then they could run a long ramp down to the platform as that one there has far more room than the cramped one in current use. And some other stations like Accrington and Rishton in East Lancs. still have antique footbridges which need replacing with ramped ones and they're not just a serious barrier to wheelchairs either, try shifting a heavily loaded garden trolley over them which I used to do when taking my inflatable boat on trips out, and I bet they're a nightmare for young mums too with prams and buggies etc. So come on network rail get them replaced! They'll quite happily spend countless MILLIONS on making big mainline stations into brutally HOT greenhouses which only further EXclude in the far too brutally hot summer sun but they won't replace long outdated footbridges, oh no!
My experience: Trains - the ramp doesnt always turn up leaving you stranded on the train. Buses: broken ramps, arguments with buggy users, aggression. Coaches: forget it. Taxis: it's OK to charge you twice as much for something not your fault. Pavements: You can get on them sometimes, if you are lucky. Wake up people and improve the whole system for us, this is not good enough.
If it’s this bad I wouldn’t go anywhere, especially without a companion. Do bear in mind though that around 95% of passengers don’t need disabled access. So it’s only a very small percentage of the population that are discriminated against. 100% perfection is simply never going to happen.
@@nigelkthomas9501 NO, it won't, but it CAN be made far better but those in power and control never want to know, and disability is not all about wheelchairs, and so-called "inclusion" is not all just about simple access but far more besides.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 Like what? Care to elaborate?
@@nigelkthomas9501 I think my other comments on this page are enough to make my point. Sometimes if there's a problem like not enough dropped kerbs for the wheelchair users the authorities will sort it but they won't do anything to make essential services like trains quieter, and fit quiet segregation oh no, no chance, instead they insist on making them all open throughout with a strict policy of "either fit in, or S-D OFF!" And they won't ban stupid radio or some other dreadful excuse for "music" in shops either which makes far too many such places totally unusable. The so-called "equality" act is a right load of total nonsense as there is no equality as everything's rigged for the normal crowd and whatever they want at the appalling expense of anyone like me who NO-ONE ever cares about, not even disability groups. And it's no good even suggesting that people like me should use earphones, or plugs, or "defenders" etc. as they DON'T WORK! The whole idea of using such things to block out noise is a total MYTH and the sooner it's put to bed the better! It's an absolute outrage expecting such folk to sit in an all open unit, it's like expecting them to sit in a carriage that's on FIRE!
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 A coach that’s on fire 🔥? Don’t be utterly ridiculous! Maybe you should try exposure therapy. Try and get used to living in the real world instead of your own bubble!
it's unbelievable that Britain doesn't have the equivalent of the Americsns with Disabilities Act to force transportation and new buildings to be accessible.
I traveled on a turn of the last century stream train in California two months ago.... there were custom wheelchair lifts at each station and one carriage modified to accommodate wheelchairs including toilet access. (the Napa Valley wine train)
Absolutely shameful.... there's no excuse and just needs the people and government to make it law.
The stations are different heights and the trains are too old - just plain nonsense and pathetic excuses.
That isn't really enforced except in very major cities.
Graham6762 Not complying with the ADA is one of the quickest ways to go out of business.
The population of Napa (where the steam train I mentioned leaves) is about 80,000.
Believe me, they wouldn't be in business if they didn't make accommodations and comply with the ADA and I'd have been front of the queue for a lawsuit.
davet11 If you are in Chicago absolutely none of the trains are wheelchair accessible except the stations downtown.
Graham6762
According to this, *all* the trains and *all* the buses are wheelchair accessible:
www.wheelchairtraveling.com/accessible-trains-buses-in-chicago-for-wheelchairs/
It's true that not all stations are fully wheelchair accessible in Chicago, but every train and bus is - the video we're talking about is related to accessibility of buses and trains in Britain where NO buses are accessible and hardly any trains and stations are accessible. In Britain, it's like in China - disabled people have to beg for help from well intentioned employees and await being unceremoniously bundled up and down stairs and past barriers which could have very easily been avoided by planning and design.
It's really so much worse in Britain - disabled people have great difficulty maintaining independence.
They do have the equivalent but don't enforce it
Saying a person can use a wheelchair instead of a scooter, is like asking them to go scuba diving with just a snorkel. What makes ableds so confident of their opinions about living as a disabled person?
There’s something sick about only increasing accessibility for transport during the special Olympics and reduce it again. If you build it for everyone, everyone can use it. Period.
This isn't good PR for Northern Rail.
tomlinid I saw a bloke take his scooter on a train only last week. He just dismantled it and did as the staff asked him.
@@nigelkthomas9501 right yeah let's have wheelchair users fucking dismantle their method of moving
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@@nigelkthomas9501 you clearly don't know anything about disability if you're going to say something so ignorant. Some people who use wheelchairs and mobility scooters can walk a little bit so could dismantle it, but others can't
@@grassytramtracks Whatever…!
Keep.it up we are with you
Its more expensive being disabled.
Disabled transport in the UK is a jkke. C9oming from Vienna which is completely diabled friendly. I can access all transport. I dread visiting family in Britain.
don't you have disability laws in UK this is really bad In USA we have very good laws for disable if any company discriminated they will pay dearly how I know because I myself is disable.
Now we do cause of people crying
How many MORE TIMES do I have to shout this, disability is NOT all about WHEELCHAIRS! What about all those NEW trains which are all open throughout the whole train with NO absolutely ESSENTIAL QUIET segregation which is an absolute NECESSITY for anyone disabled like ME with severe MISOPHONIA which IS a deadly SERIOUS disability!
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree there! Disability it may be, but it doesn’t actually physically stop you from using the train, bus or whatever. You can get on and off without assistance. Just wear some earplugs if you don’t like too much background noise.
@@nigelkthomas9501 he is mocking for whatever reason. He won't be when his kids if he has any shoves him into a care home.
Public transport is not therapy
@@dessmith7658 No, it's not dead right, far too many trains, and some buses are nothing but a total MADHOUSE!
@@nigelkthomas9501 Ear plugs, or phones, or "defenders" etc. are absolutely USELESS, they don't even begin to work.
Conservatives would label the disabled as 'takers'. Vote Labour!
chestypants78 I would never vote looney Labour! Voting for crackpot Corbyn isn’t just dumb it’s dangerous!
So Glad that we are still fighting GO folks !
That is not a wheel chair nor a wheel as it is not to go on busses it's for there own transport as they got it for own safety not other transport
try living in rotherham and sheffield most taxis will not take you if you have a dog, dont you just love religion. driving might not help as you can only go to a place when able people dont as blue badge parking is not enforced on privet land.
The cat Vegas double decker bus has steps to get to upper level I did it
EXCUSE ME, IF the operators are so committed to including EVERYONE then WHY are near enough all the new trains all open all the way through which TOTALLY EXCLUDES anyone like me who need QUIET and total protection from the noise of other passengers? WHY are such people ALWAYS so totally ignored?! It's absolutely right out of order!
Thanks Brexit! Kappa