Why Transit Cities are Better for Everyone

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    We often say that transit is better for cities to build around than cars, but why is that the case? Today's video compares two similarly sized wealthy cities to show why transit cities are good for everyone, and not just for transit users.
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Комментарии • 882

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen Год назад +476

    That's the thing, right: more cars = cars are less convenient but more trains = trains are more convenient.

    • @someoneelse9637
      @someoneelse9637 Год назад +79

      The biggest problem for car traffic is cars ... cars make car traffic worse ... transit makes car traffic better, that's what all advocates of car traffic should keep in mind ...

    • @MarioFanGamer659
      @MarioFanGamer659 Год назад +45

      "Brother and sisters are natural enemies.
      Like cyclists and motorists.
      Or pedestrians and motorists.
      Or skaters and motorists.
      Or motorists and other motorists.
      Damn motorists! They ruined motorways!"

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Год назад +29

      The big thing with trains is that they have a massive capacity. A extensive train network can transport 70% of Hong Kong's population every day without being a major disruptor. Cars can't do that.

    • @10thdoctor15
      @10thdoctor15 Год назад +1

      As long as the trains run at the same speed, which for the most part, they do.

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

  • @internationality.
    @internationality. Год назад +386

    Recently moved to the U.S after living in HK for 5 years.. the difference is astonishing. Going straight from not owning a car to needing one for every journey feels so tedious.

    • @vincentng2392
      @vincentng2392 Год назад +1

      Where in US do you now live?

    • @MartinWenzelYT
      @MartinWenzelYT Год назад +31

      Owned a car in China...didn't NEED to but old habits die hard. Now back in America and wishing I didn't NEED a car for most things (luckily live close to work so I walk everyday for that).

    • @Jgvcfguy
      @Jgvcfguy Год назад +20

      @@jok2000 You going to pay thousands of dollars a year for a car for the couple times a year you buy something from IKEA?

    • @bcamping1
      @bcamping1 Год назад +11

      ​@@jok2000 car depreciation and maintenance can easily be thousands a year.
      I think the idea is that you still have access to a car, but not everybody needs to have one.

    • @bcamping1
      @bcamping1 Год назад +3

      @@jok2000 older and wiser now. :)

  • @Lowspecgames-lr2qz
    @Lowspecgames-lr2qz Год назад +687

    finally someone mentioning 'urban sprawl' in Asian cities. Yes, it's not the same as North American cities full of suburban housings - more like disorganised clusters of apartment complexes and mid-to-highrise residential buildings. It indeed has a lot of problems (traffic jams, high city-centre dependency.. similar with North American suburbs but slightly better), but thanks to the high population density of those sprawly areas, we can (and we do) mitigate those problems with good transit services.

    • @kirkrotger9208
      @kirkrotger9208 Год назад +14

      China has so much urban sprawl, it's insane.

    • @MK-jq8ow
      @MK-jq8ow Год назад +20

      @@kirkrotger9208 in china a small town is anything under a million population

    • @kirkrotger9208
      @kirkrotger9208 Год назад +51

      @@MK-jq8ow That's not true, and China actually takes after the US in a lot of ways when it comes to urban design. Most cities are very unfriendly to pedestrians with wide roads and very segregated uses of land. Many cities are also far larger than they need to be, and there are usually only the metro and buses for rapid transit. No regional rail systems nor trams. Metros also tend to have very wide stop spacing, with little ability for more local trips in the city centers to be taken by rail. Fuzhou is an excellent example of this. Its metro only has a handful of stops in the actual city, with the rest being in the suburbs and rural areas. The purpose is for these areas to become more developed in the future, yet so much land in the city itself remains underutilized, being space dedicated to cars.

    • @deanc9453
      @deanc9453 Год назад +11

      I think it can be properly classified as suburban in places like Hong Kong. In America, it's more like subrural or exurbs. Little boxes made of ticky tacky. The single use zoning also harms American places, too. There is no missing middle or mixed use.

    • @Lowspecgames-lr2qz
      @Lowspecgames-lr2qz Год назад +9

      @@MK-jq8ow and 'city' in china is basically as large as one of those small American states in terms of land sizes. so the fundamentals are a bit different

  • @lalitsharma1453
    @lalitsharma1453 Год назад +435

    You should mention the difference in safety between driving and transit too. It’s arguably the biggest reason to decrease the number of cars on the road

    • @zedlyfe
      @zedlyfe Год назад +1

      Especially when considering a road rager in Houston might shoot you while driving

    • @edgrimm5862
      @edgrimm5862 Год назад +11

      While what you say is true, not all cities have the safest mass transit they could. When you have a mass transit system that gets in the news for accidents every few months, it's really easy to lose sight of the fact that in that same time system, the entire transit system's annual rate of accidents happen between cars every day. It's also easy to lose sight of the fact that a lot of those mass transit systems are due to under-funding the mass transit system for decades. If we spent half as much as we did on our cars to have a mass transit system that worked, it would be a real wonder of a system. Those people who "like" driving could then go for a drive on our suddenly relatively empty streets whenever they wanted without facing all of the ridiculous traffic we have, because they wouldn't have to contend with nearly as many drivers who have to drive somewhere they need to go.

    • @rockfire1669
      @rockfire1669 Год назад +2

      @@edgrimm5862 Literally speaking, the cannonball record would have been broken earlier if there was less cars on the road.(as shown with Covid)

    • @ganymedehedgehog371
      @ganymedehedgehog371 Год назад +3

      Are we including pickpockets, SA, and robbery that occurs in transit?

    • @DengueBurger
      @DengueBurger Год назад +13

      @@ganymedehedgehog371 at least you don’t die lol. yeah these are valid concerns and it doesn’t happen as much in asia.

  • @GPUtest
    @GPUtest Год назад +216

    I was shocked when you've shown the "main station" in Houston. I tried to find it on google maps manually, but it's so small (and of course burried withing a huge parking lot), that I had to google it's location. And of course what do you see first when you arrive? Big parking lot, highway and behind all that it's the skyline.

    • @jinxedpenguin
      @jinxedpenguin Год назад +41

      I actually used to live in Houston and the transit situation is sad (BUT! while I lived there, METRO Next -- a ballot initiative to increase funding by billions of dollars to their transit system, passed! and the BRT Silver Line [which was supposed to be rail, but a anti-transit politician who thankfully lost re-election forced it to be BRT] opened a few months before I moved). I'm not from Houston but while I lived there I'd frequently use the bus and light rail system when I went out to drink or to go to work and my coworkers thought I was insane. It was bizarre.
      Like, people would go out drinking and always drink and drive there. It's more common than anywhere I've ever lived (I've lived in more mid sized cities in the southeast, Houston, Denver and San Diego). It's wild. Whenever I got them to ride the LRT while we bar hopped, some of them said it was literally the *first* time they've used the light rail. They've lived in Houston their entire lives and were in their mid 20s and never used the light rail, even when drinking in the urban core. They'd rather drive and pay $20+ for parking and risk DUIs.
      It's truly a wild, wild place. I'm SO glad to see they're actually trying to do something about their transit situation (though, it's going to be hard with how car dependent they are) and honestly, even though my friends and coworkers rarely used transit, they all supported and voted for initiatives to increase transit funding. Also, their public transit authority, METRO, is actually pretty well ran. Honestly, despite the flaws in their system, out of actual operators -- METRO has been the best ran one out of anywhere I've lived or lived near (on terms of finances, actually making smart transit decisions and cutting certain routes or decreasing their frequency if they were in the middle of nowhere, expanding their transit hubs, increasing frequency and making more bus routes to connect major population centers, etc).
      Sorry for the long winded comment. I haven't finished the video and honestly, with all of my praise -- it's hard to deny Houston really is a transit hellscape and they have a pretty tough challenge to actually improve it. Besides that, I honestly never want to live in Houston again and didn't really enjoy my time there - but I really do hope the transit authority continues to make headway and have public support.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +53

      I think it’s important to recognize that some in Houston are trying! It’s hard though! Very hard!

    • @denali637
      @denali637 Год назад +8

      Wait, do yoh mean the Amtrak station? The Metro doesn't go there lol
      I assumed he was going from the Preston stop on the Red Line

    • @Geotpf
      @Geotpf Год назад +15

      It's worth repeating how bad intercity rail is in Houston. One train, three times a week (per direction). That's it.

    • @d1234as
      @d1234as Год назад +2

      The problem is common to many cities in USA: it depends on railway taxation model. In USA there's a railway infrastructure taxation that leads to downgrading railway lines and station to save cost and pay less taxes. After '60s, many rail company has suffered a downturn of passengers caused by airplanes and cars, so the company ceased your passengers service and sold your central stations or, at least, a biggest part of the main/central stations' land to builders, so a huge part of the cities in USA have only small station(s), outside from downtown and with a very few number of tracks and unbelievable low number of trains serving them.

  • @AlexSchwartzATV
    @AlexSchwartzATV Год назад +518

    So crazy that for public transit it's like:
    -Taxes for infrastructure
    -Ticket/fare
    Cars it's like:
    -Pay for the car itself
    -Pay taxes on the purchase
    -Pay taxes every year on the car (in my state)
    -Pay taxes for road infrastructure
    -Pay car insurance
    -Pay for fuel
    -Pay for maintenance/tires/oil
    -(Optional) Pay for roadside assistance subscription
    -Haggle with the mechanic to make sure you're not getting taken advantage of/scammed lol, and also hope that they actually did fix the car correctly..

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад +98

      People are borderline enslaved by their cars. It's a chaotic unreliable thing that can seriously f your budget up at very inopportune times. And the poorer you are the worse it gets. It's a hellish trap that you can't get out of. You can only afford a crappy unreliable car that can bust your budget and make you get fired because you couldn't show up to work. Alternatively you get an expensive new car and again your budget is busted because of this high upfront cost you're paying for reliability. Then eventually depreciation comes and screws you up. Better not get in an accident either. Doesn't matter if it's your fault or not. It is going to suck.

    • @AlexSchwartzATV
      @AlexSchwartzATV Год назад +28

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 Yeah as i look around and i see people who aren't as knowledgeable of cars as me (not that im an expert) i think about how 10x more annoying and uncomfortable it is (and prone to being scammed on top of that, just to be able to get around) to have to deal with maintenance or surprise failures or even just living with driving, a lot of people get anxiety doing it. It's crazy how it's expected of literally EVERYONE in 95% of American cities to just deal with. People always say it's crazy that we let 16 year olds drive or how easy it is to pass the driving test but thats because there is literally no other options unless you live in a few select major cities.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +45

      Yes!

    • @Geotpf
      @Geotpf Год назад +9

      The financial problem though is that the highest costs, car payment plus insurance, are typically fixed costs that don't change much with use. This means once you have a car, the financial incentive to use transit SOME of the time goes away. The additional cost per mile to use the car can even sometimes be cheaper than using transit, especially things like commuter rail. Now, a couple might be able to go from two cars to one with transit for one to use it to commute, but that doesn't work for a true single person.

    • @stevenluo9516
      @stevenluo9516 Год назад +10

      ​@Zaydan Alfariz $5 is expensive for a transit ticket. Usually they cost $2-3 at most, $1.25 in Houston.
      And Houston is nice that except for paying by cash you get unlimited rides for three hours after paying your $1.25 fare, free five rides per 50 paid ones. Since I'm a student that price drops even more.

  • @sams3015
    @sams3015 Год назад +303

    I miss Hong Kong so much, I did a summer programme there after I finished secondary school. I remember the transport felt so freeing. I’m learning to drive now (at 30) but I couldn’t drive for medical reasons at 17 (our age for getting your licence) and it was horrible being stuck in rural Ireland when all my friends could go and come as they like. So the MTR really was freedom to me. Compare that to waiting for the bus to next town yesterday for an additional 15 mins once again, a bus that only runs to 1800 every two hours

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +28

      Yep, I know that feeling of freedom having grown up in a semi rural area!

    • @JamesLaw87
      @JamesLaw87 Год назад +2

      Hong kongers didn’t leave Hong Kong to take subways and live in small homes. We would’ve stayed in Hong Kong.

    • @AlCatSplat
      @AlCatSplat Год назад +8

      @@JamesLaw87 Fun fact: it is possible to have both a subway and big houses.

    • @planefan082
      @planefan082 Год назад +2

      @@JamesLaw87 The physical city itself (and infrastructure), tiny homes and all, was the favourite part for myself and almost everyone I knew. We moved because we had no choice.

    • @eattherich9215
      @eattherich9215 Год назад

      @@AlCatSplat: it is in London.

  • @Ianchia860
    @Ianchia860 Год назад +80

    Also, don't forget that Hong Kong and Houston suffer from long, hot and humid summers, so "It's too hot to take transit/walk in Houston" is not valid

    • @KingAsa5
      @KingAsa5 Год назад +26

      That’s not a valid excuse at all. Many places on earth are hotter and more humid than Houston is yet the people still use transit. Weather has no factor in Public transit and walking.

    • @denali637
      @denali637 Год назад +14

      The funniest thing about this is that ice houses - bars that are primarily outdoors - are extremely common and beloved in Houston, including in the summer.
      We're okay with sweat. We just don't build in a walkable or transitable way.

    • @jonathanip7882
      @jonathanip7882 Год назад +6

      Hmm can’t say the concern of humid heat is entirely invalid
      But by having extensive and well connected public transport (where buses stop near building/malls, where metro exits connect to the basements of office buildings, where buildings are often interconnected with pedestrian bridges) is probably the exact answer to that concern!

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад +3

      I disagree. People preferring to be at comfortable temperatures is totally valid. The sunbelt was generally not colonized, uh I mean, populated by Americans until AC was invented.

    • @Raiken202
      @Raiken202 Год назад +2

      @@jonathanip7882 I remember when I went to Japan a few years ago in December, I would walk through the underground networks to connect to other stations. It felt so insane thinking that there are literally shopping malls entirely underground with walkways full of eateries like bakeries, cafe shops, and convienence store like 7/11. You can just walk a few blocks down in one direction and be away from the cold ass wind and rain for the entire walk. I don't quite remember if i've experienced this during the summer, but I probably have in the past when I was younger.

  • @user-wx6mi5xh7w
    @user-wx6mi5xh7w Год назад +153

    An additional point to the transportation for airport workers is that HK's airport buses actually travel around the airport complex to pick up said workers before their trip back to the city center.
    And HK also has its many lane highway moments - just very rarely and only used as the connecting point of multiple highways. As a kid I always loved traveling past those sections. The scale and grandeur is incredible. But that's only because it's not everywhere in HK that we have that many lanes, that it feels special to go through those sections.

    • @nelsonyang1216
      @nelsonyang1216 Год назад +7

      I believe only the E-series routes ply through those areas. A-series Airport routes are still planned to exclusively bring passengers to and from airport terminals

    • @willy_gooseling69
      @willy_gooseling69 Год назад +1

      @@nelsonyang1216 yes, but some E routes don’t even go to the airport, only tc.

    • @RS-nq8xk
      @RS-nq8xk Год назад

      @@willy_gooseling69 The N routes to Tung Chung are supposed to go to the Airport then end at Tung Chung. At least the N29 over here is like this.
      And some A routes have special trips that go into the working areas too.

  • @chrischinnery7515
    @chrischinnery7515 Год назад +54

    I'm a Londoner but I've spent some time in Hong Kong. Public transport there is fantastic. We lived for some time in a village on a smallish island connected to Hong Kong Island only by ferry. It was about a mile's walk to the pier. For most of our stay, we were on the 21st floor of a block in Kornhill (see Wikipedia), a cluster of about thirty 31 floor blocks (mid-rise in HK terms) built to serve the, then new, MTR Island Line. At the end of the street: forest covered hills. Every morning, old folk would gather in the woods or in any public space to exercise. The streets are full of life. Because HK is the densest place I have lived in, it is also the greenest. I think that the green and red minibus networks also deserve a shout, as do the taxis.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +4

      Yep! The minibuses are quite something! Hong Kong is a very special place

    • @viktro546
      @viktro546 Год назад

      @@RMTransit Minibuses exist thanks to the communists who decided to start a riot in 1967.

    • @JerryChanD
      @JerryChanD Год назад +2

      I think lower wages and people dedicated to working play a huge part in serving the whole public transportation system in Hong Kong.
      For example, the green minibus drivers as part-time drivers working from 6:15 am to 2:45 pm as a standard morning shift can earn 600 HKD, and the night shift starting from 4 pm to 12 am earns 630-700 HKD. No official break times or very limited benefits for drivers. Sure the basic traffic accident scheme from Gov HK call Traffic Accident Victims Assistance scheme can cover injuries or even support fatalities.
      Full-time bus driver works around 8 hours a day for standard shift and routes and can earn roughly 18000HKD to 22000 HKD a month for the first 2 years of service. Normally can jump to a bit more to 22-25k HKD level after 2 years of good level service means no accident occurs in that two years. Other than that will have an excuse to about the 19-21k level.
      Most of the drivers work 6 days a week around 48 hours working a week.
      Break time is around 20-60 minutes but depending on traffic time when you complete the shift, there was a mandatory break time in law that says 6 hours of driving must have at least 20 minutes of break time.
      Seems wages are a bit lower than in London and working hours longer.

    • @ArchOfWinter
      @ArchOfWinter Год назад +1

      I love Kornhill! I used to live about 15-20 minute walk from it. Kornhill and Tai Koo are the best neighborhoods I've been to in the world. Convenient shopping, major shops are practically downstairs from where you live and a short walk away from older neighborhoods with independent stores. International name brands to generic all within the area. Two movie theaters in walking distance! Restaurants from high class expensive fine dinning to cheap food court stuff. Transit of all kinds. Sandwiched between natural mountainous park and well designed water front park. One of 10-12 ice rink in the city right there.

  • @SamuelLee-gw6wr
    @SamuelLee-gw6wr Год назад +13

    In HK we often appoint to meet others at MTR stations usually, and even after gatherings we leave on the same train if our destination is along the same line.
    This is one of the main features in a transit city.

  • @grandson_lok_zai
    @grandson_lok_zai Год назад +120

    The famous statement “more lanes equals more traffic” can sum up the problem Houston has. The Katy Freeway is a famous example of wide freeway but there is still serious traffic jams in rush hour. Also, in comparison, cars are far less space inefficient than public transit, which takes up large amount of space building infrastructures for cars.(this can be seen clearly in Downtown Houston where lots of grids are used as a parking lot instead of buildings for living or offices)
    I recently watched traffic videos talking about Houston and coincidentally you made this new video explaining Houston transit! So lucky to see you making a video for this! Hello from Hong Kong!

    • @otherssingpuree1779
      @otherssingpuree1779 Год назад +24

      The old reply to people calling trains crowded.
      A packed train still moves.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +9

      Thanks for watching! Highways are a struggle!

    • @rah2389
      @rah2389 Год назад +3

      yes more roads nice and wide everywhere is needed.. and lots of parking.. we should have 3 lane roads everywhere with underground subways. you car NIMBYS are off the rails

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 Год назад +6

      @@otherssingpuree1779 Just look at any developing nation's railway for that.
      Overcrowded to the point theres people riding on the top yet thing still moves.

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад

      People in the urbanist community fail to acknowledge that more lanes does enable more capacity. The goal isn't to eliminate traffic, its to move more people per hour. Houston and LA are huge. Cutting down lanes will reduce road capacity. Widening increases. You've seen what happens when a lane gets closed for construction. Everything slows way down.

  • @Mr_mime2387
    @Mr_mime2387 Год назад +143

    Hong Kong is just an amazing place for any transit lover.
    An excellent metro system? Check
    Well-designed highways? Check
    Good connection to the Airport? Check
    The MTR stations are often located next to a public transport interchange, making transfers between different modes of transport, and thus the journey, relatively seamless.
    And the highways(what we call expressways in Hong Kong) too, either designed to skirt around the edges of major urban areas(like the Kwun Tong Bypass)and/or fitted with noise barriers(Tuen Mun Road within Tuen Mun town centre), minimizing noise pollution to the urban areas and makes the living environment pleasant while allowing easy access for road traffic.
    (Though a east-west RER-like rail line would've been a neat addition for Hong Kong as the travelling time for that as of now is just taking way too long)
    In my humble opinion Hong Kong is a good example of achieving a good balance between road and rail transit.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +23

      Hong Kong is definitely transport maximalism

    • @MrDigitalman78
      @MrDigitalman78 Год назад +10

      Hong Kong is a city and country in one on an island like Singapore so it should have good transit system and connections there due to a committed government

    • @AmelieZh
      @AmelieZh Год назад +4

      @@MrDigitalman78since when did HK become a country?😂

    • @MrDigitalman78
      @MrDigitalman78 Год назад +4

      @@AmelieZh my bad. Hong Kong is part of China like the former Portuguese colony of Macau

    • @punchkicker3837
      @punchkicker3837 Год назад +3

      @@MrDigitalman78 Singapore doesn't have direct rail to the airport. It still relies on a bus, so it fails.

  • @bas3q
    @bas3q Год назад +59

    Two additional points which I don't think you made (although I could have missed it, so if you did, please forgive me):
    1.) Distribution of traffic to multiple means of transit - that is, even if you're a "car person", taking more people off the roads via convenient and frequent transit is better for you because it gives you an easier ride and makes it more likely you'll get there faster.
    2.) Providing additional means of transit provides options - meaning that even if you're a "car person", you still benefit by gaining flexibility in ways to get places. For example, I'm from the DC area and even though I own a car, I'm really happy that I can take the silver line from near my parents' house to National Airport (with a ton of bags) instead of having to drive all that way and try to find expensive and inconvenient parking every time I fly out of there.

    • @seanhartnett79
      @seanhartnett79 Год назад +1

      Yep even if you don’t use it as a commuter you benefit because traffic decrease.

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck 11 месяцев назад

      few people who rely on cars actually like it. they just have no better option or just don't know any better. most car enthousiasts don't like driving to work, but do like cruising when the road is empty

    • @seanhartnett79
      @seanhartnett79 11 месяцев назад

      @@leonpaelinck yep.

  • @AaronSmith-sx4ez
    @AaronSmith-sx4ez Год назад +69

    The big hidden benefit of transit over cars is often not travel time/convenience...but parking. People will take transit into downtown NY/DC/Chicago/etc primarily because parking is scarce. Parking more so than freeways has destroyed our urban downtowns. On the flip side, many medium size cities have seen their downtowns decay and die because of lack of parking (or a transit replacement). Often white flight is blamed for the death of many downtowns, but in reality it is because there is an inability to get downtown in appreciable numbers. Downtowns need transit to thrive.

    • @leeratner8064
      @leeratner8064 Год назад +11

      Downtown decay was caused by many factors but cheap land available outside the city centers should be focused on more. America, Australia, and Canada have room to sprawl and become poly centric. If you are a business that doesn't really feel the need for a fancy headquarters to call your own, an office park is a lot cheaper than downtowns. The businesses that remain downtown tend to be ones that need to be close to something. So a lot of lawyers and law firms want to be close to the courts they practice in rather than having to drive an hour or so to get to court.

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад +10

      This is very true! A downtown with plenty of parking spots is no joy to be in. A downtown with no transit is nojoy to access.

    • @starventure
      @starventure Год назад +2

      Parking or not, nothing can save American cities as long as they are minority-majority and crime infested, which is usually a byproduct of the minority culture that dominates. You could build all the mass transit you wanted, but if it is not safe and doesn't serve where people want to go(like suburbs) while keeping the undesirable away somehow, it is not going to happen. If you don't believe this is real, go take a walk around LA right now and talk to anyone there who is stuck with an apartment downtown or in Santa Monica. They can't escape the homeless epidemic and have to wait until their leases expire to move to another state. And on the flip side, talk to anyone in a midwest or Rocky Mountain state and ask them about what Californian's are doing to the places they grew up in. Don't allow them to spit on your shoe.

    • @AaronSmith-sx4ez
      @AaronSmith-sx4ez Год назад +4

      ​@@starventure Sadly crime and more broadly immaturity represents serious threats to downtown vitalities. I'm not sure there is a simple solution. If inner-city education were to emphasize accountability and discipline (which it doesn't) that might help.

    • @ficus3929
      @ficus3929 Год назад +1

      Bro what are you talking about? Do you live in LA? Because I do and none of what you’re saying represents reality.

  • @amac2612
    @amac2612 Год назад +47

    One of the things i love about Germany, although not perfect, the cities are dense, still filled with wonderful natural parks, and enough space, one of the reasons i love cologne is the green ring around the city, but inbetween cities is just untouched nature. In Australia that untouched beautiful nature would be bulldozed to make way for culsdec and single family dwellings.

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 Год назад +14

      Germany, at least the cities I've been to, seems to strike the perfect balance of crowded, interesting, accessible city centres and a good spacious environment for all people to enjoy a high quality of life. Hong Kong may have transit that is the envy of the world, but its living conditions are crushing for such an affluent society, with much of the population living in, what most people in developed countries would consider, utter squalor. And today's environment is already better than before, with cleaner streets and better separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic. The density is just too high, for many complicated reasons.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Год назад +9

      Germany is kind of a middle ground between the two. It's mostly medium density with transit that serves a significant portion but not everyone.

    • @roballen3281
      @roballen3281 Год назад +1

      In Australia...?? Sydney and Melbourne have unbelievable Greenspace all over the city, what drug are you on?

  • @bearcubdaycare
    @bearcubdaycare Год назад +27

    A good point about options, and about competition of travel means. Waze, the driving app, found that the Netherlands ranked highest on its Driver Satisfaction Index, despite having great transit, biking and walking. Or because of.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Год назад +3

      Well the reason isn't actually that the roads are that much more pleasant to drive on though they are quite good.
      It's because all the alternatives means that if someone doesn't want to drive then they just don't. The standards for getting a license in the Netherlands are also some of the highest in the world with some not qualifying ever even though they are not seriously handicapped. This means the people who can drive can drive well and are well disciplined.
      That's a big advantage of having alternatives to driving, you can put much higher standards on drivers because people are not crippled if they can't meet those standards.
      If you take the people who don't want to drive off the road and force all the ones that remain to know and obey the rules well and take pride in being a driver you are getting a much more pleasant experience. Dutch drivers also actually have the law stacked against them. If a Dutch driver hits someone then the burden of proof is on them by default, it's not neutral. They are considered guilty unless they can prove their innocence. This might seem unfair to some but cars are considered a stronger and more physically protected road user so they should be held to higher standards than others.
      Of all the reasons the final one actually might be the most important. If drivers have a greater level of responsibility put on them then they tend to behave better in general. Cars tend to give people a sense of empowerment and so you need to counteract that effect.

  • @redcat900
    @redcat900 Год назад +9

    When I was living in New York City, I was using the trains and buses to get around the City without the use of a Car and it was very convenient, but now, I live in Raleigh NC and the Triangle area is very Car dependent and the Transit system is very awful. No commuter rail, and no shuttle service to the Airport ( RDU ). I do hope that the Triangle region boost their Transit system.

  • @TransportSimulatorNationTSN
    @TransportSimulatorNationTSN Год назад +5

    In Texas they say (add one more Lane bro)

  • @jonathanip7882
    @jonathanip7882 Год назад +19

    I think it’s fair to say that driving on highways are horrible at peak rush hours in HK (especially at bottlenecks like tunnel entrances).
    But that further backs the point that having alternative choices is important!

    • @Darkness251
      @Darkness251 Год назад +1

      Yeah and just imagine if they didn't have such a transit system and millions more on the roads. Public transit is one of the best ways to reduce traffic on roads.

  • @elizabethdavis1696
    @elizabethdavis1696 Год назад +46

    Please consider doing a video explaining feeder buses ( are there feeder trains too?)

    • @mancubwwa
      @mancubwwa Год назад +5

      Here in Warsaw we have feeder trams at the very least

    • @user-ib9pz6id5b
      @user-ib9pz6id5b Год назад +10

      Definitely feeder trams...

    • @tsangwaiho4264
      @tsangwaiho4264 Год назад +6

      Yes, there are definitely feeder railway systems, especially trams or light rail. In Hong Kong (where I currently reside) the Light Rail system (in the suburb-ish residential areas) acts as a feeder for the Tuen Ma Line (a sort of S-Bahn/RER/Metro combination).

    • @CABOOSEBOB
      @CABOOSEBOB Год назад +3

      Aren’t trams often feeder trains

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +9

      It’s something I’ve talked about a lot in various videos, but perhaps a dedicated via would make sense

  • @WilliamChan
    @WilliamChan Год назад +34

    Even the greatest transit cities have a smattering of cars on the roads for some use cases, so I appreciate when people focus on promoting transit friendly policies rather than trying to eliminate all cars from existence.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +14

      Indeed, and when people still choose to use transit despite passable roads you know its probably fairly compelling!

    • @fcfhkmelb
      @fcfhkmelb 10 месяцев назад +3

      You need to take into account the road to population ratio though. It seems like a lot of cars on Hong Kong roads but they are only a very small fraction of the travelling mass

  • @aidanwong2733
    @aidanwong2733 Год назад +12

    Hongkonger here! I take the mtr everyday, and our entire family doesn't have a car. We very often forget how lucky we are to have access to such an extensive transit system (though accidents happen every other day)
    basically our city is developed on public transit. MTR is the most profitable transit system in the world, because it is also a giant real estate developer who develops on and around its stations. another thing is most of the population here doesn't own a car, its mostly the rich who drive. So the richest communities here (kowloon tong, the peak etc) often lack transit access (although still very accessible, just less compared to others)

  • @willychan4290
    @willychan4290 Год назад +14

    Hong Konger here, I’m actually living in a low density residential area near the roundabout in 12:16
    Yes despite it is 15 min drive from the nearest MTR, I usually take public transport.

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 Год назад +6

      I lived in Fairview Park as a kid and "going downtown" meant going to Yuen Long as the city was not yet very accessible back in the 90s. Still miss YL, it's just so much more laid back and less pretentious than the city.

    • @byronmak7943
      @byronmak7943 Год назад +4

      Not me, but my family on my mother's side lives there, too, and they take the same approach to get to or come back from Yuen Long.

    • @mokyiuhei
      @mokyiuhei 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@canto_v12Even though the transit near Fairview Park still isn't good, you can ride a bike there to Yuen Long nowadays.

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 8 месяцев назад

      @@mokyiuhei I do want to try this bike path next time I’m in town!!

  • @punkdigerati
    @punkdigerati Год назад +13

    If it's the only choice, it's not a choice.

  • @jackbates7467
    @jackbates7467 Год назад +6

    As a car enthusiast I'd like to point out that Houston also sucks for car enthusiasts, its in the flat part of Texas so there's no "fun" roads nearby, if you drive anywhere you get stuck in traffic or pay a toll and Houston is also full of pretty atrocious drivers (like every city in Texas). That said because its Texas car ownership is ridiculously cheap compared to pretty much anywhere else.

  • @silassheriff7868
    @silassheriff7868 Год назад +19

    I live in Frankfurt Germany. We mostly have 2 or 3 lane Autobahns and 4+ lanes are rare. Public transport is quite decent compared to American standards, but could be operated more regular if rail was priority

  • @KelvinFTDIU-StandardGaming
    @KelvinFTDIU-StandardGaming Год назад +15

    Something jag wanna tell about as a dude who är now living in HK:
    1. There're some much cheaper way to go to the Airport from Central, you can take the Tung Chung Line which is nearly parallel to the Airport Express but only takes you to Tung Chung, then take the S1 bus route to the Airport Terminal. There're also have many E routes which can takes you to Airport which are less expensive than A routes but take longer times.
    2. Sometimes buses can be faster than MTR. För example, go to Central from Ma On Shan might need 1 hours on MTR but the bus route 681 is fxxking fast (Although only 10 minutes fewer with perfect road conditions). However it always depend on road conditions, sometimes it can become a commuting hell if there're traffic jam.
    3. Travel between some district always feels like a journey to some far place, no matter what Transit you take. Det är because much of the land is country parks which are remained natural, unlike Huston which spread the city out. When you go to the town centre of other districts except between urban areas, you will go across many green areas, like you are on the way to other cities. I love seeing the views while going to other places.
    4. Transportation in HK:
    - MTR
    - Frenchised Bus
    - Estate Bus
    - Green minibus
    - Red minibus (Don't take this as this one driving at very crazy ways)
    - Taxi

    • @isaaclao2380
      @isaaclao2380 6 месяцев назад

      Estate buses are technically under Non-Franchised bus under HK Law, which CTB is the rare case where (same branding company) has BOTH Franchised and non-Franchised department

  • @TheShortStory
    @TheShortStory Год назад +8

    There’s an interesting dynamic in Hong Kong I’ve observed. On weekdays there is the usual congestion on key highway choke points but it eases up a little into the day. But on weekends the traffic can be even worse, and the congestion patterns are very different, with logjams in popular hangout areas, throughout the day. Presumably this is because most people commute with public transit but those that can afford to have a car like to take their family out for a drive on weekends. I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere else.

  • @gratux
    @gratux Год назад +6

    As a European, more than 3 highway lanes seems absurd to me. Even for main town roads, you only really see at most two lanes in very big cities, which suffice because every driver is trained to stay in the outer most lane when not overtaking.

  • @saxonhui2822
    @saxonhui2822 Год назад +4

    It is true that driving in Hong Kong is so much more pleasure than other cities. Not only you get to enjoy the view, the highway network is so well designed. Also, the government of Hong Kong is still pumping an enormous amount of money to build a new highways, which I think is better solution to solve traffic than widen the highway. That’s why whenever I play cities Skyline Hong Kong is always the city that I’m referencing.

  • @jamalgibson8139
    @jamalgibson8139 Год назад +24

    This was a fantastic video. I really appreciate the point you made about having more natural areas in dense cities, as that's something that I've been thinking for a long time, but haven't seen anyone else really discuss.
    I also appreciate you really nailing home the point that car centric cities are really terrible for everyone, not just those who cannot drive. I think it's important that we are more critical of how bad car infrastructure is for us and our cities, and we shouldn't mince words here.
    Thanks for all you do!

    • @ShoummaShams
      @ShoummaShams Год назад +4

      I find it wild (as someone who's doing their Master's in climate change) how underemphasised it is that building denser means more "actual" nature is preserved, great to see it brought up in this video even if briefly. Building outwards just means more habitats and nature are lost and more difficult to reach. Obviously green space in cities is important but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to not build upwards instead of horizontally, both can be done.

    • @rabin5139
      @rabin5139 Год назад +2

      ​@@ShoummaShams ikr, as an architecture student who keeps receiving all those 'skyscrapers is ruining the world' messages from school, this really blows my mind, this is like 180 degrees off from what we were studying

  • @jinxedpenguin
    @jinxedpenguin Год назад +28

    I could write entire thousand word essays about Houston, METRO (their transit authority)/etc from my time living there and my days spent researching their transit system. Maybe I should.
    Great video, though! Everytime I traveled abroad while living in Houston and returned it made me sorta sad. On the positive, as I mentioned in my other comment, METRONext did get passed and Houston is one of the few cities I've seen consistently and actively increase their transit build out. So while I don't think it'll be anywhere near the level of HK... ever... I do think the next few decades may look way different for Houston. But it's sad when LA makes Houston look like world class transit lol
    Always down to write long winded comments or share my knowledge if anyone is interested!

    • @natepasman6414
      @natepasman6414 Год назад +3

      I'd actually love to hear about houston's transit lol

    • @jinxedpenguin
      @jinxedpenguin Год назад +1

      @@natepasman6414 word! I can't even link to Metro's page without it getting blocked but I might make a longer comment explaining it later. it's a pretty interesting story

  • @douglaso6428
    @douglaso6428 Год назад +12

    Your focus is needed in the discussion of transit in our society (US). We’re so used to framing things as one thing pitted against another, but if we join together and make common sense choices, everybody benefits as you suggest. Thank you!!

  • @ronaldli4187
    @ronaldli4187 Год назад +3

    Immigrant from HK here - Family is still in Toronto. I have to add that parking in HK is really inconvenient - you'd save more time taking transit rather than trying to find a space in those multi-level parking garages. Parking in residential areas are limited and very pricey. Also, the vehicle registration tax of a privately owned vehicle is any where from 40% to 150% of the price of the vehicle. This roughly translates to paying 1.5x to 2 x more for a car. My family used to live in Mei Foo, now a major transit hub, in Kowloon and we were contemplating buying a car because my mom had to commute on a bus 1.5 hr/day to go back and forth between Mei Foo and Tuen Mun, a "satellite city" in the New Territories (West Rail was not built yet in the 90s). My family, at the end, gave up on that idea because it was becoming cost prohibitive.
    When we lived in Markham in the 90s, my family bought 2 cars!!! It was a new found freedom for my parents that they could only dream of in HK.

  • @kagetsurou
    @kagetsurou Год назад +7

    It's good that you mentioned how travelling by car is still convenient in hk. I am I hker and my dad has a car. Although most of my trips are still going by MTR, sometimes we would still drive to my grandma's house to drive her to somewhere else. It's surprising for me that when I recall my experience of going to my grandma's house either by MYR or car, they both are so convenient and comfortable. I can choose however I like to get there, depending on what I have to do.
    Someone may claim that car gives you freedom of going anywhere you like, and that's true. But having a good transit system also gives you the freedom to choose your way to travel depending on your purpose, but not depending on where you want to go.

  • @veggieboyultimate
    @veggieboyultimate Год назад +7

    Moral of the video: having multiple modes of transportation in a city is better for the people

  • @ohioweatherguy
    @ohioweatherguy Год назад +7

    I lived in Houston for several years and while I have good memories from my time there (mostly related to the friendships I developed), I was so excited when I had the opportunity to move to a city with better transit available (Chicago). I was so frustrated having to use my vehicle to get anywhere in Houston, whereas I eventually got rid of my car in Chicago and rarely ever missed it. I will say even with a more extensive rapid transit network in Houston, the thought of walking to a transit station from May - mid October doesn't sound particularly enticing, when heat & humidity is incredibly high and the heat index is frequently 104F+ (40C+). If they want to entice transit ridership, not only is frequent reliable service that goes where people want to go an important element, but also making it comfortable is also important which probably means enclosing stations to make use of air conditioning (e.g. a monorail network or SkyTrain-type network with enclosed stations since a subway system there would be difficult given the high water table). It's one thing to walk in the cold & wait for transit since you can often just pile on more layers to keep warm. It's an entirely different scenario if walking to a transit station when it feels like a sauna since there's only so much clothing you can take off to try to cool down. Using a car where you have your own air conditioning to get from place to place will likely remain the most attractive travel option as a result.

  • @seanhartnett79
    @seanhartnett79 Год назад +4

    In my area a mass transit light rail is being built closely to me, and you will never guess what the complaints are, “it will raise my home values too much and I will be paying higher property taxes or my rent will increase too much”

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 7 месяцев назад

      Are they wrong? I genuinely don't know.

    • @seanhartnett79
      @seanhartnett79 7 месяцев назад

      @@RextheRebel my state froze property tax decades ago.

  • @Raditram
    @Raditram Год назад +12

    What we used to do as a budget tourist other than using bus from HK Airport is using the MTR from Tung Chung and then connect to a bus or vice versa. It's pretty awesome and way way wayyy cheaper than the airport express.

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 Год назад

      It is doing a planning for Tung Chung Line expansion, due to Tung Chung is fast growing in this few decade (2022-2042 era).

  • @kenkarsonn
    @kenkarsonn 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’m from Portland originally. We can talk all day about how much more affordable, efficient, eco-friendly, and overall enjoyable mass public transit is; but if there’s even a slight chance that a homeless person might hop on the same vehicle as a white-collar businessperson, the fight for better transit will always be steep in the US.

  • @Lukebarca
    @Lukebarca Год назад +5

    One of the biggest problems of why people in America will never change their habits from thinking they need a car is that the scheduling of transportation is awful. Until scheduling gets better to include over night trains people will not change their habits.

  • @TheJohnnyJohnny
    @TheJohnnyJohnny Год назад +3

    In my country, cost benefit analysis from the standpoint of government favours car infrastructure because they can:
    1. Collect more car sales tax, road tax
    2. Collect more summon money for the slightest traffic violation.
    3. Cutthroat charge for driving license fees.
    4. Collect more tolls and erp with concession contracts of 50y++ for close political associates(cronies).
    5. Cheaper to construct compare to rail
    That is a lucrative business model for government to milk more money from a regular citizen like me😢. Whatever you suggest here is a pipedream.

  • @spetz911
    @spetz911 Год назад +8

    There are buses going from Huston to Dallas etc. But I was shocked when I took a bus in the city itself I was shocked how far is everything and how large are freeways.

  • @resstuff
    @resstuff Год назад +6

    I lived in the Houston area for over 15 years and yes a car is an absolute necessity. When I did work downtown I took a bus but anywhere else would be difficult if not impossible. However, the bottom line is the primary reason that Hong Kong is able to have such a wide variety of transit is population density. 18,500 people per square mile in Hong Kong versus 2,700 people per square mile in Harris County in which Houston is located. Houston will never have transit like Hong Kong unless the population density increased. The fact is that living in a tiny apartment 30 stories high is not viewed as ideal for many people. Single family homes on a private plot of land exist because people like that. I do not see Houston neighborhoods being torn down to put up high rise apartment buildings on top of one another anytime soon. Instead of lamenting how Houston is not Hong Kong perhaps it would be better to consider how best to maximize transit in low population density areas.

  • @PresentGenGamer
    @PresentGenGamer Год назад +13

    It's worth mentioning that Houston's ridership per mile for light rail is among one of the highest in the US, beating out cities like Portland, Denver and even Los Angeles. While probably nowhere near the magnitude of HK, it's still shockingly good for a city infamous for its freeways and sprawl. Even the frequency of trains are better than some metro systems in the US.

    • @mathewho9796
      @mathewho9796 Год назад +7

      This is because Houston has a small Light rail system serving only busiest corridors around the downtown and major destinations. Other cities you mentioned have light rail going into the suburbs

    • @PresentGenGamer
      @PresentGenGamer Год назад

      @@mathewho9796 That is true, but I only pointed out those cities simply because they are more left leaning than Houston in terms of getting any transit built. While Houston on the other hand seems to be getting the best bang for the buck for it.

    • @mathewho9796
      @mathewho9796 Год назад +2

      @@PresentGenGamer , Dallas Light Rail fans out to the Suburbs

    • @PresentGenGamer
      @PresentGenGamer Год назад +3

      @@mathewho9796 I consider DART to be a regional interurban than traditional light rail. Coupled with poor land use around stations and 15-30 minute frequencies depending on time of day.

    • @roballen3281
      @roballen3281 Год назад +1

      I wonder how they fund it? and have you ever ridden from Downtown to Medical Centre? The passengers are appallingly unruly, unemployed homeless and violent on drugs or whatever mostly mentally ill. I really think the figures are false.

  • @samipatel7118
    @samipatel7118 Год назад +12

    First :)
    Also make a medellin, colombia video please!!! its a great case study on how transit elevates otherwise marginalized populations (cable cars/gondolas connected to trains)

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад

      I’d like to, but I need to gather up some footage first!

    • @samipatel7118
      @samipatel7118 Год назад +1

      @Zaydan Alfariz no you’re right, although it’s a bit unfair to characterize a metro of 3.7 million people by that… nonetheless, medellin is used to it I suppose
      Since that era, the city has done a lot to elevate the economic opportunities for the people that live in the mountainside slums through public transit… it’s actually a beautiful and rather modern city, I urge you to visit it

  • @timsteppeler7489
    @timsteppeler7489 Год назад +2

    Everything you say is music to my ears!

  • @DanChan-qb2ec
    @DanChan-qb2ec Год назад +22

    Nice video. Hong Kong do have a good transportation systems. There is almost (not all) no places in Hong Kong that requires driving to get there.

    • @Ianchia860
      @Ianchia860 Год назад +4

      If you include taxis, which are rather convenient and easy to get, albeit expensive, then no places require driving

    • @DanChan-qb2ec
      @DanChan-qb2ec Год назад +4

      @@Ianchia860 well technically, you are right. Even though taxi doesn't count as a public transport

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +3

      Very true!

    • @vincentng2392
      @vincentng2392 Год назад +2

      It doesn't make sense to drive in Hong Kong unless you're a billionaire living in the luxury residential district called Mid-Levels.

    • @vincentng2392
      @vincentng2392 Год назад

      @Zaydan Alfariz The district is at the middle elevation of Victoria Peak.

  • @MarloSoBalJr
    @MarloSoBalJr Год назад +5

    Been to Houston and can confirm that public transportation in Texas in-general is an undeserving joke.
    Houston is similar to Phoenix where sprawl has gotten so far outta hand that any rail proposals would receive a capitol "F" for it's lack of usefulness.

  • @blazesardonyx7557
    @blazesardonyx7557 Год назад +3

    EXCELLENT points at the end brother, and a banger video overall. Thank you for you hard work.

  • @LilBoyHexley
    @LilBoyHexley Год назад +3

    I'm from Houston, and while it's poor from a transit perspective I'm actually glad it exists in our current car-centric world. It's the ultimate example of why various propositions to make car-dependancy work better are ineffective.
    Houston is a large, highly developed, high population city and has done more to make the car as fast and convenient as possible than almost any other place. Multiple large loop systems, and numerous redundant, wide arterials going in nearly every direction. Almost completely flat with freeways that are all able to run close to straight.
    And there is still traffic. In conjunction with everything being super far apart to where long trips are super common even when there isn't congestion.
    Without alternative modes you simply can't build your way out of the problems with car-oriented development. If you could Houston would the best example to point to.

  • @johnmillercampbell5964
    @johnmillercampbell5964 Год назад +11

    Fabulous & very well delivered. Great video.

  • @qolspony
    @qolspony Год назад +6

    This guy always say the right things. 12:41. Impressive 👍

  • @91djdj
    @91djdj Год назад +8

    I actually feel sorry for the Americans to just have that discussion if public transport is needed and should be funded or not. It´s a (most of the time) reliable option for your citizens to move around the place and connect important nodes of work, leisure and living.

  • @CharlieND
    @CharlieND Год назад +1

    I think going forward whenever I introduce someone to your channel I'll make them watch this video first. While it's a fantastic explainer and comparison, it also does a good job of serving as an overview of the topics you usually discuss on your channel.

  • @tml3
    @tml3 Год назад +2

    It is always interesting and enjoyable to see your analysis on different passenger transport models!

  • @marciomesquita1976
    @marciomesquita1976 Год назад +1

    Very nice Video as always.

  • @user-tl9wv6wu9h
    @user-tl9wv6wu9h Год назад

    I like your explanation!
    Currently searching about TOD (Transit Oriented Development) & today your video appear on my Home.
    Hi from Malaysia 🇲🇾

  • @GalladofBales
    @GalladofBales Год назад +2

    Love the point about the distribution of nature/ green space! When the only "green space" is private lawns, it mostly sits unused. The footage you used was a great example of how people come together in public green space. I had my first real visit to NYC recently, and seeing folks come together in Central Park was awesome to me. It's a unique and wonderful experience in the US, but there's no reason it shouldn't be that way everywhere. Nature can't be truly experienced if it's chopped up into little pieces, and not to mention it completely destroys natural habitats for plants and other animals. Green space is so good for our environment, and our physical and mental well being. Having access to that should certainly be a right for everyone. It's possible in a walkable, transit-oriented city.

  • @matthewconstantine5015
    @matthewconstantine5015 Год назад +11

    The thing that really gets me about Houston is that it's built for cars and cars only (yes, some progress has been made in recent years on public transit, walkability & cycling), but the roads are absolutely awful. Like, almost universally terrible. You can drive past strip-malls, "poor" neighborhoods, or gated communities and the thing they all share in common is shockingly awful road quality. Driving in that city is unpleasant for a lot of reasons, but the constant rabbit-punching of your guts as you roll over what might as well be dirt roads may be the thing I hate the most.

    • @jinxedpenguin
      @jinxedpenguin Год назад +6

      Yeah, I lived on Richmond near the galleria and the roads were so bad that I was terrified of it destroying my car...
      The road quality is abysmal.

    • @denali637
      @denali637 Год назад +6

      This is the biggest thing for me. I am a Houstonian, and while I live without a car now, I drove for years, and only some of this video rings true for me (yes, there are some heavily congested routes at peak hours, but I routinely made my ten-mile commute from Midtown to Mid-West in about 15 minute in the mornings and 35 minutes in the afternoon, and while the video makes a good case for driving comfort in HK, I can certainly say that there is absolutely no comparison between driving in Houston and driving in the NYC or Boston areas; biking is a wash between those metros in my experience).
      But the fiscal impossibility of sustaining a citywide network of 6,400 miles of (often multilane) street grid *and* 4,000 highway lane miles is inarguable, and it is constantly evident. Moreover, the endless sprawl makes it exhorbitantly expensive to operate and maintain the (generally quite good for non-BRT) bus network.
      In other words, the main problem with Houston - especially if you're talking about the entire metro area (which is where the 7mil population comes from) is that it is **way** too big.
      The city collects about the same tax revenue each year as Amsterdam (about $5B), but has four times the population and seven times the geographic area, with some level of street grid covering nearly all of it.
      In other words, if it's too expensive to build a rail on Richmond or Washington, then it's definitely too expensive to build a whole-ass road right to your house.

    • @roballen3281
      @roballen3281 Год назад +1

      not to mention the Ugly billboards that promote the A-Z of everything. I could drop a family member or friend blindfolded, along any of Houston's Freeways and ask them where they are? Not one redeeming landmark of distinction. oh may be the Local House of Ill repute?

  • @ambe5179
    @ambe5179 Год назад +2

    Hong Kong is the perfect example of transit-oriented development. This city has developed for several years around its public transport network, with a dense and concentrated urban environment which favors the development of high-capacity transport. In result, every district in Hong Kong is served by at least one MTR line. Transport is also a question of town planning, which is why it fails to be profitable in car-friendly countries.

  • @haweater1555
    @haweater1555 Год назад +3

    Hong Kong: Only city with rail system that makes money and pays dividends.
    Houston: USA city with the longest time period that had NO rail or electric based transit.

  • @iamzuckerburger
    @iamzuckerburger Год назад +11

    Hahaha I love your channel because the car people in my life think I'm crazy for being so anti-car but honestly you make me feel like FLOWERS IN MY HEART

  • @keefers84
    @keefers84 Год назад +9

    Geez, it's like transit channels love to pick on Houston! LOL. It's okay, we get it. One thing that often gets left out here is that Houston does not control highway planning. Houstonians overwhelmingly oppose the highway expansions, but are powerless against the Texas Department of Transportation. Also, Houston is undemocratically under-represented on the regional planning council HGAC. Lastly, you could give credit to Houston for its current bike lane boom. Even outside of protected bike lanes, it's becoming much easier to bike across the city these days.
    But yeah, I get it. Houston has a long way to go and could be much much better if we fixed transportation.

  • @truthfacts5438
    @truthfacts5438 Год назад +6

    This video well done, big thumbs up

  • @arokh72
    @arokh72 Год назад +2

    Having lived in a city with a lot of urban sprawl, and sadly little transit outside of the city centre, that city being Sydney, I agree with you on that point. In fact in 2014 I lived in an outer suburb called Campbelltown, and travelled to the University of Sydney Camperdown, in the inner city, for work. To get to work, I had to drive from my home to the station, then catch the train to Central station, and then a bus down to the uni. It took a long time. I then tried driving, and using surface roads, so not toll roads, it was quicker for me to drive. I then got my motorcycle license, which cut down commute times even further. Basically using transit I was spending the equivalent, each week, of working an entire shift on transit, assuming everything ran as they should. Once I switched to a motorcycle, my commute time was cut by 25% - 30%, and the weekly costs were similar.

  • @kennyleung3467
    @kennyleung3467 Год назад +2

    Hong Kong MTR is also a apartment builder, hk government give lands to them to build stations + shopping malls + apartments. 3 in one project to make sure profits and enough passengers.

  • @jennosyde709
    @jennosyde709 11 месяцев назад +4

    American cities are really sad. Being an old person who can no longer drive, a stroke survivor or someone who cannot drive for other medical reasons, or simply being low income and therefore unable to afford the costs of a car are all things which can be an actual nightmare for people in cities with limited to no public transportation.

  • @PeterPanopticum
    @PeterPanopticum Год назад +2

    Have done a back of the envelope comparison between the Greater Houston Urban and Metro area against germanys most populated area. There is for one the Ruhrgebiet (Ruhr) and the Metropolregion Ruhr-Rhein (Rhine). Both places are comparable in population, population density and surface area.
    The big difference is public transit and with that land use. Verkehrsverbund Rhein-Ruhr (public transit provider) connects the different cities in a manner not visible in Houston. Land utilization is roughly 35-40% settlements, 35-40% agricultural land, 15-20% forests, 5% water. In comparison the I-610 is a loop around Houston with a land utilization of 31% of single-family housing.

  • @rudivandoornegat2371
    @rudivandoornegat2371 Год назад +10

    My kind of video.
    I love it.
    We all need the right mix of walking, cycling, public transit and cars in our cities.

  • @konayorin
    @konayorin Год назад +1

    Been binging on your videos the past few days!! Thank you for sharing the joy of Public transport! Will you ever do a video on Hannover? It's not a large city but our Stadtbahn (metro-tram) is old and lovely and has undergone quite a few changes. New line extensions and a new train model are also underway :)

  • @Truth-of-the-matter
    @Truth-of-the-matter Год назад +2

    I don't think Americans understand how much well engineered public transit systems can improve lives for everyone. Often we complain about traffic and parking but build more highways hoping to solve the problem which only encourages more people to drive. When you travel overseas and experience how convenient it is to have more than one option for transit you have more freedom in transportation. I appreciate that younger generations (like myself) see the value in public transit and are willing to invest in transit that supports everyone.

  • @rolandharmer6402
    @rolandharmer6402 Год назад +1

    Spot on!

  • @SSNewberry
    @SSNewberry Год назад +2

    Good summary.

  • @jethrochan260
    @jethrochan260 Год назад +5

    Hong Kong do sort of create a less interfered economy just like in Texas, but the Hong Kong government basiclly generates market and economic incentives towards the policy, like dirt cheap transport and high fuel prices and taxes for drivers

  • @canadien325
    @canadien325 Год назад +5

    Toronto politicians should watch this

    • @AmelieZh
      @AmelieZh Год назад

      But they can't understand a word

  • @Alozhatos
    @Alozhatos Год назад +13

    Actually to create Transit oriented city, housing culture need to be changed. Most Hong Kongers live in super high density residential apartments while most people in Houston live in suburban low density single houses. Almost impossible to cover transit city with single unit residential compared to apartments.

    • @Aidan_Au
      @Aidan_Au Год назад +5

      Finally someone speaks up. Huston and HK are apples and oranges

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  Год назад +5

      I think Toronto shows that’s not true, but it helps of course!

    • @Aidan_Au
      @Aidan_Au Год назад +6

      @@RMTransit What does Toronto show? The percent of Toronto residents living in apartments are likely more than that of Huston Metro area residents. Huston is a sprawled area...

    • @punchkicker3837
      @punchkicker3837 Год назад +2

      @@Aidan_Au You don't always necessarily need high density to have subway systems or commuter rail. Even the NYC does go deep into areas that can be classified as low density but tons of people use it. As long as it is walkable to an area, people will use it versus in Los Angeles case, they built the subways next to highways or in the middle of no where next to warehouses. So no one gets to use it.

    • @Aidan_Au
      @Aidan_Au Год назад +2

      @@punchkicker3837 You make it sound like NYC Subway is world class when in reality it's far from it

  • @Aidan_Au
    @Aidan_Au Год назад +4

    A better comparison would be Huston and Oslo, Norway.
    Both cities are rich because of oil.
    One decided to build roads and highways. The other decides to ban cars in downtown area while have a very decent public transit.

  • @connor5890
    @connor5890 Год назад

    This is my favorite RMTransit video yet

  • @mokyiuhei
    @mokyiuhei Год назад +4

    Not owning a car save you tons of money. Seriously. And I enjoy living car-free.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 Год назад +2

      Only to be eaten up by high rent and living costs.

    • @metrofilmer8894
      @metrofilmer8894 11 месяцев назад

      It might, but the difference will be minimal when you have a housing affordability crisis as bad as Hong Kong

    • @mokyiuhei
      @mokyiuhei 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@metrofilmer8894 Thankfully Hong Kong has lots of public housing to alleviate the problem.

  • @shrgn
    @shrgn Год назад +5

    The Netherlands make it look so easy again. They have both amazing transit and car infrastructure.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Год назад +5

      Um...no.
      The Netherland's transit is average at best and quite lackluster by European standards.
      The reason actually is the massive amounts of cycling infrastructure that pushes medium density which means there are few places with the density to support transit. It also means in many instances people can cycle to shop or to work so transit is unnecessary.

  • @panng3504
    @panng3504 Год назад +2

    As a Hongkonger who has been living there for decades, I will be "impatien"t if the next train isn't coming in 2 minutes in rush hour.😆

  • @andre-cmyk
    @andre-cmyk Год назад +12

    i kinda love the slight more political angle you've been taking recently in these videos! everything is political already, but transit is sooooo political and there's a lot of statements to be made in relation to it. keep it up as always reece!

  •  Год назад +2

    Cool content.

  • @HCMCDrives
    @HCMCDrives Год назад +2

    Please do a video on the Manchester tram network. Grown incredibly in the past 20 years, with relatively little impact in terms of road closures or disruptions.

  • @addisoncwt
    @addisoncwt Год назад +3

    HK relies on transit so heavily that some routes (both trains and buses) are overloaded even if the frequency hits 3 or 4min. Indeed owning a car would be even more convenient, but using public transport is certainly enough for daily life.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Год назад +29

    Yes, it’s totally counterintuitive but adding capacity (lanes, bridges or tunnels) causes more traffic, not less! Best example was the opening of the Whitestone Bridge between the Bronx and Queens, essentially a short cut route where you no longer needed to drive all the way up to the edge of Queens for the Triborogh Bridge to get out of Long Island. Traffic immediately overwhelmed the new route, so they planned and built the Throggs Neck Bridge farther east. As soon as that opened, traffic overwhelmed BOTH bridges! I fully expect the current plan to add a lane in each direction to the Van Wyck Expressway to/from JFK airport to have the same effect.

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад +1

      More traffic isn't bad, increasing capacity is what's happening when you add more lanes. You're able to serve more people. The goal isn't to simply increase the speed of the average car, it's to move more cars.

    • @pauly5418
      @pauly5418 Год назад +7

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 It's the false perception of added capacity that exacerbates the congestion. The increased volume of vehicle traffic just bottlenecks somewhere else further down where capacity for traffic to flow really remains the same.

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад

      @@pauly5418 you're telling me 1 lane on 405 still support the same throughput of the current highway?
      Induced demand is a thing. Yes. But think about what those two words mean. You're inducing, aka adding, demand aka new drivers. You're able to literally support a greater number of vehicles and people and it does.

    • @RBzee112
      @RBzee112 Год назад +1

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 2 or 3 lanes would be enough IF there was viable transit options along that route.

    • @MartinWenzelYT
      @MartinWenzelYT Год назад

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 yeah, and then you need another lane and another and another.

  • @aarnavgupta3936
    @aarnavgupta3936 Год назад +5

    Car ownership is EXTREMELY expensive in Hong Kong. Parking prices are off the roof. As a student, the thought of taking a taxi is like ruining my budget - hate when I have to. People can NOT afford cars in Hong Kong hence there is a more reason to have a better public transportation system.

    • @aarnavgupta3936
      @aarnavgupta3936 Год назад

      @Zaydan Alfariz it’s equally expensive, if not more.

  • @peachulemon
    @peachulemon Год назад +4

    Transit cities look way better then car based cities, drive around Toronto sucks ass but taking the train in and out Is great but inconsistent. Since my hours are not always the same

  • @laneferal6756
    @laneferal6756 Год назад +8

    Seattle delayed all new lightrail lines to 2024-early 2025 due to cement strike, soil foundation issues and pandemic. Bellevue might get its independent east link unconnected to seattle but transit board won't announce plan til January

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 Год назад +2

      What purpose would the light rail serve if not connected to the city?

    • @laneferal6756
      @laneferal6756 Год назад +4

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 east link will later connect to seattle but Redmond technology center to Bellevue will get people to work at Microsoft and Amazon offices there

    • @compdude100
      @compdude100 Год назад +1

      @@yungrichnbroke5199 Bellevue is still a major city in its own right. And opening the Bellevue segment that's isolated from the rest of the system will allow it to open about a year earlier than it otherwise would.

  • @gossettcd
    @gossettcd Год назад +3

    The Houston airport bus isn't using the toll road, which is faster? Why?

  • @fntldks
    @fntldks Год назад +2

    As a Hong Konger, I am really grateful to have such an effective transportation system. Especially after I traveled other similar cities. I can say it is top 3 in the world. Sometimes taking trains is even faster than taking a taxi in countryside railway line. And it is relatively cheap, just less than USD $2 a trip in most cases

  • @mc2playzz
    @mc2playzz Год назад +3

    I live in HK and the mtr station is 10 mins away

  • @modcolocko
    @modcolocko Год назад +12

    I was wondering, could you do a video looking at a city like Houston, and going over the ways you would fix it.

    • @starventure
      @starventure Год назад

      Invent skyscraper apartments that have front and back yards. That can also be remodeled at will and are not made of concrete, but wood. Also, overturn the Fair Housing Act and allow for single ethnicity dwellings and buildings and neighborhoods. In addition, pay for the operation costs of any mass transit system with fairy dust and unicorn toots so no taxpayers groups decide to ruin it. See? Easy.

    • @roballen3281
      @roballen3281 Год назад

      interesting trying to fix anything in Texas or America, they rather trash it and leave it, (look at any inner city gone wrong with vacant disused buildings and infrastructure) and build new, America is not into recycling or repurposing, each cycle of local state or federal government wants their name on a new project. Just take for example the Hardy Tollway out of Houston, it used to connect before Hurrican Harvey, (sort of), but now you drive single-lane speed bumps and a dozen traffic lights thru the ghetto to join the Toll Way at 610, they rebuilt a new bridge over Buffalo Bayou, at the city end... but then it's a joke thru to 610.
      I see ex Houstonions crowing well about the Metro Bus network but really it's a government sham, trying it out and see where and how you go. Houston has got real potential with the HOV if they converted it to rail, but let's see Texas, Come and Get It, meaning no change, not in my backyard. It's so conservative that hell will freeze over before TXDOT allows anything but the car door to open. Sorry for being negative but that's the way it is. oh Yes Reese let's see if you can come up with a Plan. Also grateful to compare a city with the best transit in the world with yes the worst city with no transit, Houston, with a cover-up to transfer good government grants (intended for the Metro Network) but to pay for I45N and 59/69 widening thru communities Schools and businesses. Texas, Come and Get It!

  • @LPenn0505
    @LPenn0505 Год назад +2

    I never thought you’d talk about my hometown of Houston (you probably have before). You’re critiquing it, but I did as well 😂
    That’s why I moved to Atlanta. MARTA is more likely to expand transit in the next decade than Houston Metro 😢

  • @malcolmmccaskill2311
    @malcolmmccaskill2311 Год назад +1

    Several years ago when driving in a cab to Ontario Airport in greter Los Angeles at 5 am I asked why there was so much traffic on the freeway. The cab driver replied that in another hour the traffic would be so bad the freeway would choke and travel take much longer. By contrast a few years later I experienced a Tokyo morning peak 7-9 am. The expressways flowed freely, none of the subway trains were crowded, and the sound environment was restful, with the loudest sounds being station chimes and footsteps. I have never seen an urbanist point out such features, but these mean so much to quality of life.

  • @sarahpreston4558
    @sarahpreston4558 Год назад

    something i think about a lot is that the houston metrorail has a stop that's primarily for a parking lot :') also houston's 6 minute headway during peak, 12 minutes off-peak is really good for the US! i haven't been to a city that's more regular--LA's gold line, for example, was roughly every 18 minutes when i lived there over the summer, and BART from downtown SF to the airport is every 33 minutes on saturdays or something like that.
    i'm one of the very, very, very few people in houston for whom the metrorail is actually somewhat convenient from where i live (on a college campus), though the 3 trips i make most often all either have required bus transfers (and the bus is every 15 or 30 minutes) or optional bus transfers. i hate waiting for the bus, so i usually take my longboard instead. for one of those trips, it's 1.1 miles/1.8 km; for the other, it's 1.4 mi/2.3 km; both are on variable (but usually BAD) quality sidewalks along major roads.

  • @OuijTube
    @OuijTube Год назад +7

    The Metro in DC has suffered from lower frequency (thanks to the loss of ATC) plus delays (thanks to unreliable rolling stock and bottlenecking at the Rosslyn Tunnel). Together it renders the service way less useful. Even at peak, we only have 6 minute headways where we probably should have 4 minute headways. Off-peak wait times are even worse. 15 minutes is a long time to wait for a Metro, especially if you’re transferring between lines.
    Frequency is freedom.

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 Год назад +3

      I think Washington DC's Metro can think as "USA's MTR" 😁

  • @hotswap6894
    @hotswap6894 Год назад

    I'm glad you are realizing the politics behind good transit and it's tie in with successful urban planning. I rewatched your video yesterday about not making public transit free and I feel the current Reece would disagree with the past Reece.