Dr. Shaun's First Autistic Patient | The Good Doctor
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2023
- Shaun Murphy, a young surgeon with autism and savant syndrome, moves from quiet country life to join the surgical unit of a prestigious hospital. Shaun, who is alone in the world and unable to personally connect with those around him, uses his extraordinary medical abilities to save lives and challenge his colleagues' skepticism.
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I think they mean that this is his first autistic patient as a resident. He already had an autistic patient, a boy, in the first season.
Ahat episode and seson ??
He had his first autistic patient in an episode titled 22 steps in season one.
I saw that one. The patient got off of the wrong bus stop in his first try alone. Parents said they'd never make him do it again, if I got the episode right. It was a good one. I'd hope for that with my son when I am gone.
@@sisters558 Season 1 episode 7
@@sisters558 A hat???
Love Shaun, he is SOOO ADORABLE. His like a golden retriever, always wants to help, but quite often very confused. I just love him
My mom realized I was autistic the one time I was a child about six or seven and I was freaking out about remember what I said. I needed a deep compression around my body and she went. Do you mean a hug? Haha I love how accurate this is. I still have some trouble, but I had to learn facial expressions and all that stuff. I can relate to him a lot
you asked for a hug and so your mum realised you were autistic?
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Even though I on the blindness spectrum, and not the autism spectrum, I somehow also relate to him? ❤❤
And to tell you the truth, I couldn't even remember my own birthday so I thought I was 20, where really I was only 8, and I also couldn't remember my phone number either? So I didn't know what was wrong with me at the time, and when I tell my family whom I thought I trusted the most, they just don't seem to understand? :(
They really have a weird view of autism especially high functioning autism. You can't tell everyone who has autism is autistic. There are thousands if not millions of autistic doctors operating everyday and nobody knows it.
Well, to be fair they don't called it a spectrum for nothing. And while this show displays some stereotypes time from time, it's still has the most respectful representation of an autistic diagnosed person I've ever seen in a tv show.
It is to make the functioning autistic seem even more functional for TV.
@@TheRockandfantasy101 i just watched 1 minute and 54 seconds and i can tell you right now atypical is more respectful than whatever the hell is happening here. i was diagnosed with autism as a child and this is already stereotype city
@@JacolynParker-vl6nw I never heard of Atypical before, I believe it hasn´t aired on my country and I would love to see it to make the comparison .
But, while the Good Doctor really IS stereotypical in some aspects, I find it a decent representation. At least, it is to me, because my godson (who is also a child diagnosed with autism) acts identical like Shaun (minus the God level genius part) and he LOVES this show bc he sees himself on the main character. And for that I find the show good
I have it some people can't tell if I have I just normal but speak and talking is bad for me HAHAHAHAHJJHEHSHEHJMENHE
But I think I am friendly and lot of people are nice to me 😊
Her insistence that he loved her and her concept of love was the right one is completely inappropriate.
And it was right
@@tonypetryszyn1255 BS.
That trivia nights was how they conencted, because when you cannot understand people orcommunicate you have noother way to do it. But clearly you just dont get it.
My biggest step into improving my life with autism was not getting over the things that can be complicated for me, because I can't do that, but learning ways to cope and be the closest I can to do it when it is necessary.
Like driving. I don't like to drive, and I do not drive in my day-to-day life, because it makes me feel bad. But I can drive in an emergency, like if my mum gets sick because I need to know to do it when it is important I do. After all, if not I or the people I appreciate could be at risk.
Even if I can't do it the same way most people do it, or how they expect me to, doesn't mean I can't find my own ways to do it when it's important.
So this guy should have some way to do this his way to help his roommate.
I do wish they would stop making every person with aurism have the same why of talking. Both my boys have autism and have a 'normal' speak pattern. I have other family members on the spectrum and they also do not have this speak pattern.
Autism is a spectrum though. There are still autistics that have distinct speech patterns & body language. This show wouldn't work if he was high-functioning & behaved 'normal'. I'm high functioning & have 'normal' speech too, but can we please stop with the "not autistic enough" & "too autistic" black & white thinking please?
Ive met people who were autistic and didnt sound like this yhey make Sean sound kike a robot!
Everyone is different but not all sounds like this
@@exilada800I think you missed my point. I was trying to say that as it is a spectrum and therefore do not make all autistic characters have the same speech pattern, differing personality and body language to show more of the spectrum. To ensure that as you say not just black and white but all the colours of the spectrum. I meant no offense.
My daughter has a normal speech patter too, however in any drama everything is exaggerated. Even the “typical “ doctors are talking over dramatically! It’s just a technique to get the fact they are different across to the audience.
My son is autistic and speaks normal
My niece is autistic and she has typical speech. In fact because she had speech when she was young she is very well spoken and articulate
I was 40 years old (now 44 years old) when my mom and I figured out I was autistic. I displayed ALOT of symptoms, but everyone just figured I was a little quirky. Talking with me, you wouldn't know I even had it. You'd have to be a medical specialist in the autism community, and have some extensive conversations about my life and history before realizing that I am. My ex's baby brother has autism and his speech pattern is similar to what I am hearing in the autistic doctor here, but my ex's baby brother's speech patterns are a bit more pronounced. Total sweetheart of a kid, respectful, nice as can be, and to this day I am close with both my ex, his baby bro, and his mom. I was also close to my ex's dad before he passed. Even went to the funeral and spoke, and that was ALMOST 6 years after the breakup. They saw me as the closest thing to a daughter they would ever have. I miss all of them. I moved most of thr country away 6 years ago.
Was diagnosed with Asperger’s when I was 10.
Would never know it because I’m high functioning
Ure adorable! Am pretty sure ur so kind just through ur comment ♥️
how the hell does she not understand that 'trivia night' is not just some dumb gamer they play! it is how they connect!
Odin getting high with Charlie Bucket 🤨🤨🤣
This isn't Sean Murphys 1st Autistic patient. He treated an Autistic man in season 1.
It's shaun murphynnot Sean loll
@@Shaun529 It's Shaun Murphy, not shaun murphynnot Sean. lmao
@@user-bh6mz1bx2n u know what I ment.
if feel for the guy, i have fluorescent light sensitivity, but really you can put up with it for special occasions and then deal with the light torture and later the migraines for a good reason.
Fluorescent lights used to precipitate my seizures. Now they just make my eyes hurt.
The blue/white LED lights everywhere are awful, too. No one needs 12,000 lumen headlights...and no one who installs aftermarket lights ever aims them properly.
I have a sensitivity to light in general florescent is worse but cloudy days give me migraines I can't open my eyes and the pain makes me dizzy (I have react to light glasses that are slightly purple to help that)
Bright lights are bad for me , but it's worst for me when someone suddenly flashes me with bright lights on cars or a flashlight , especially with the newer ones they are very bright . Instantly brings on a massive migraine. Which I thought might get better with age . I am 71 yo and still have the same problem.
I have a light sensitivity to evening sun, but I find if I stay indoors it is worse when I'm not desensitised
Shaun is outwardly different from his peers and this show is about how comfortable we would be trusting someone doctoring us who is conspicuously neurologically atypical
Bright likes are like “needles in my eyes” that sounds like hell on earth
it is
For years, and I mean like 25 years, I'd get irritable in many stores and hated super bright overhead lights at home. Couldn't function or hold the little focus I had. The lights were loud and gave me "interrogation anxiety." I'd BEG for them to be turned off or replaced with dimmer ones. Everyone thought I was dramatic about it. It wasn't til more with autism shared similar reactions to lights that people in my life had a shocked pikachu face. I'm not bitter at all 😂
Same with sound for some people. Loud sounds or music can be painful and disorienting. Stores at Christmas, playing loud music, make concentrating on shopping difficult.
This is not his first patient on spectrum there was a boy with full-blown autism in season one
I was thinking the same thing. There was that red headed guy who Shaun helped.
@@mattseifman9534 tecnically this could be the first one hes treated as the primary docter i guess but i dont rember this patinet to begine with
All autism is autism. There is no "full-blown" type of being autistic.
But you're right. Shaun treated a patent who was autistic and so is the actor who played him, Coby Bird. Season 1 episode 7 "22 Steps".
@@raea3588 i was saying his first now that shawn is a full doctor and not under anyone and for your informion its a scale its why its called a spertum diorder i should know im on it
Full blown autism is a hilariously stupid term that I’m totally adopting from now on lmao.
Bro Shawn and glass man are high 😂🖐️
Mhm😂
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As someone with autism i dont look to or care how tv dramas depict others with autism. Its not meant to be education, but "entertaining". There will never be a "correct" way to accomplish this.
I agree. All shows who contain autism isnt fully 100% accurate. As a person with autism, i also don’t mind it but, they just show the “base” instead of reality. But it is very entertaining.I also think that they’re is lots of different types of autism, and which bothers me a bit is that they show it in one perspective instead of showing other types.
Good answer! I was thinking the same thing. Putting people with disabilities on T.V. is considered a big step anyway. Like you said, no one with autism is the same, so how could someone "act" autistic..
I believe Dr. Shaun Murphy is depicted in a way that I actually found educational. There are messages in this show that explain that it is just a different way of thinking and experiences. It shows that it is hard to understand how other people think or feel for people in the autism spectrum. It also shows that just because they are autistic and have problems with staying calm in uncomfortable situations, they can still have a role in the workplace. Shaun is a great surgeon.
I think the biggest reason the portrayal of autism isn’t always “correct” is because shows are often concerned with driving home the point that the character is autistic so they make the most notable symptoms all they show to make people “see” the autism. I do think a good example of nonverbal autism is in criminal minds episode Coda, he behaves exactly the way a nonverbal child i used to baby sit did who had autism. Another is the movie Come Play, again nonverbal, but he is a real person not defined by his symptoms. That being said, the child i used to babysit is drastically different from me who is also autistic (specifically AuDHD or autistic and ADHD) as well as my husband who is too and both of my cousins who do have “autism” voice. Autism is a spectrum and i do like Shaun protesting that just because he is autistic does not mean he instantly connect with another autistic person. I also feel shows need to do a better job of showing the spectrum and not just on a basis of low functioning to high functioning either. It boils people with autism down to a caricature otherwise and generalizes it down to just the symptoms neurotypical people often find inconvenient to cause drama, obstacles or conflict in the show or movie. Also the patient who appears in The good doctor season one episode 22 Steps with autism is actually an autistic actor named Cody Bird!!! So the show does have “real” autistic people in it. Also also, both autistic people who appear in this episode Lana and her roommate Javier have autism in real life though the actor for Javier, Alexander Plank, is specifically diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome.
This isnt his first autistic patient....his first one came in season one, it was the ginger boy, his parents didnt want him being the doctor because doctor shaun is autistic but in the end he was the best doctor for the job
I love that the only person the autistic woman talks to first is the burger guy 😂
Edit: Nevermind he’s her roommate. Still kinda funny though.
Never underestimate the power of a good burger
I personally felt there was a significant difference in their patterns, her voice carried her weight whereas the good doctors is much more flat. He spoke of facts with a tangent connection whereas the patient has a personal outreach. This is my opinion of course but I feel like there is a significant difference between the two.
This isn't his first autistic patient. He treated an autistic boy season 1 episode 7. Episode title "22 Steps".
I do not remember seeing this episode and I am pretty certain I saw all of them.
Ye same lol
Same
bro was bouta be fried for 3 days if he ate them edibles
I disagree.
i had brain surgery this geeks me out
I forgot how weird and wrong this tv series feels for me as an autistic person 😂
I'm conflicted myself, some parts I really relate to, and others are very clear stereotypes that make me really uncomfortable.
Along with how inappropriately they handled the scenes with trans patients and how he didn't seem to have a clue about how transgender people function, or dysphoria despite being a doctor really made me mad and super uncomfortable.
@@sipi2009I hear you. Uncomfortable is the right word.
@@antyliga2414 Thanks! I forgot to mention I'm trans myself, so those scenes really affected me personally.
Along with the fact that autistic people are usually overly empathetic, or at least just empathetic in general, so him asking all those inappropriate questions about their genitals and then questioning their gender identity, and all that gave me the absolute ick.
I've been just watching clips of the show her on RUclips left and right, and I honestly really like Shaun like as a person, and even a little as a character, he seems sweet but then stuff like that I feel he'd never say and just generally feel like poorly written "nuance".
Have you watched the show yourself, or are you just like me, lol?
Dit’s more about his character. Not every autistic character in the Good Doctor acts exactly the same, just like how different people on different sides of the spectrum are different.
Also it’s for entertainment, different things are stereotypical everywhere for different people. :/
Weirdest thing to watch as a person with autism, a sibling with autism, a parent with autism, and friends with autism
Can you elaborate, I'm also autistic.
My favorite show
Agreed I've have autism and I don't sound like a robot it's a trope and it's annoying
I ❤ this show. I will miss it😢
Why do they make every autistic person speak in the same way 😭🤚
Im autistic, my brothers autisic and we very much do not sound like this
Do it for trivia night.
It’s not that he’s autistic, but he’s also a medical savant. He remembers everything he learned. Now he’s adding experience to that knowledge.
Yes savant syndrome
Where i can find this in full episodes
Well... that was a wild ride.
Sony can’t even get stuff about it’s own show right
*its
What episode
What season and episodes is this
The way that autism is portrayed is not as important as the fact that it is brought to light. We all want people to know , that care , that autism is still a functional way of life.
Laughing trip & then food trip.
My best friend is austistic, her speech and understanding is normal, however she tends to get very upset when things are out of order, if she is late or early. If we make plans we discuss it each day until the event to keep her calm and focused, other than that we laugh so much together and I dont see her as different in any way. We all have our uniqueness.
I know three people with autism and each is different. They are like “regular” people, each is different.
This was surrealism.
As i say randomly forcing yourself is sometimes good also bad
which episode is this?
Lies it’s s2 E13 - Xin
While I'm sure there are many types of people on the autism spectrum with many different ways of speaking and communicating, I have worked with a number of people with autism - adults, teens, and children - and I haven't yet met one who talks in this manner, let alone had three in the same damn room at the exact same time.
I'm going through a time now where I'm being told that I am most probablt autistic. I had a meltdown in drama where I couldn't cope with the fact that half my group wasn't in and the carefully thought out plans in my head were ruined. To everyone else, it would be that I didn't want to do any work, but for me it was like the end of the world. I just sat there forcing myself to think until the teacher asked me what's really wrong and I just cried. I spent a good half an hour talking to her, that teacher understands me so well. She said to me "How many of those kids in there are going to be doctors? One, if not none." She then went on to say "You know that stephen hawking is autistic. Some of the most successful people are autistic." She went on about saying how a teacher I look up so so much and have spent hours crying to is probably autistic until saying "Most doctors are probably autistic." After spending hours crying over wanting to be normal, this is what I needed.
Do doctors really speak personals while operating, doesn't that affect their concentration.
Mostly don't
They do, actually. I had gallstones and while operating me i could hear them talk and even laugh when i was gaining consciousness
They do, and no it doesn’t affect their ability to perform. They also often have music on in the background.
Yes..they speak..
Yes, they are people. People chit chat to pass time.
In which country
very formal by saying "we want to open you up and cut it out"
Yeah that kids in season 1 was the first
I had an aneurysm that was surgically repaired…..it was while I was partially awake. I don’t remember anything.
Lol Shaun Glassy doing Golf Glassy "Four, breaks a window" Shaun "Nice shot Glassy" "I'm calling you Smurf" "Am I acting weird, am I high?"
i just cant get over the fact theres a mcdonalds bottle lid in her "head"
I thought Shaun's first Autistic patient was the boy and his overprotective parents
I did too but I haven’t watched the show so idk
@@user-uk8dc9mp9n it was back in season 1
@@artechstorm oh tysm
This isn't Shaun's first autistic patient. He treated someone in the beginning of season 1.
That’s not the first patient with autism Murphy has had. The boy with the bus missed is the first
Don’t you mean second as he met an autistic lad in the first season
Shaun takes edibles 😂😂
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Also he has an better body posture than me 😂
Everybody getting mad at autism stereotypes but not the doctor stereotypes or patient stereotypes or opposite sex roommate stereotypes. SMH
Why when they show someone going into an MRI machine they don't do it properly? They have to put something over her head to hold her down in place so that she won't move while the MRI is scanning. This is so unrealistic it's disgusting
I've been in MRI machines head first and I have ADHD, and they didn't put anything to hold me down. I just had to be still and kept telling myself to not fucking move (which was hard), so it's not impossible for them not to have the pin down cussions
@@Anzy.99 they always have to place a plastic frame over my head and put headphones on. I've never had an MRI where they don't put a frame on your body where they're going to take the films. When I had to have an MRI of my leg they also put a frame over that and when I had to have an MRI of my liver they had to put a frame over my belly. I've never had an MRI where they don't use a frame. So it just didn't seem very realistic that they're just going to shove you in there without anything to keep you still or headphones to keep you from hearing those loud noises. The headphones are usually connected to a radio and they usually play music through the headphones to distract you from all the loud noises
That's not his first autistic patient. That was in s1 episode 3 or 4 I think
I think turkish version of the same script is better than this english one. The original one is korean, but DR. ALI VEFA is more realistic.
Different culture different ways, difficult to compare on cultural grounds!
@@gaviny-w3569 but I am not belongs to both culture I from India. We indians even don't like turkey as a country but still.
Where can I find the Turkish version wanting to watch it forever?
@@Scarlettraventaqua1 it's on RUclips, and some other ott platform for free. Dubbed and original both.
I agree the Turkish version is better
2:26 my intrusive thought: It looks like tofu, *nom*
He is a surgeon
Truly well said. He is THE surgeon.
I want what they took them getting high was funny to watch
when they got high af I busted out laphing
the first Autistic patient was the kid from the beginning of the season, right?
4:00
2nd patient
"I'm scared of a dog pooping on a lawn." ???
3:40
Shaun eating cannabis edibles is a vibe
Who isn't on the Spectrum these days? Cause I am, too?
Not everyone
We're still a big minority, it's just that an autism diagnosis didn't exist until a little while ago, you were just the village weirdo or blended in with the neurotypicals because you had to.
"it's marijuana" "medical marijuana" "it's MARijuana"
Yep.
💀🗿
Any f84.2 adult?
My 4 years son,has syndrome rett and he’s autistic
the high functioning doctor doesn't know edible dosage or that he was picking up some
Why isn't trivia night and insects a good enough reason? Does there have to be a "higher" purpose? It doesn't matter!
It was Not the first! That was a little boy in the first season!
The Good Amish Doctor...great dialect/accent Shaun
Wasn't there an autistic patient in the first season?
His first autistic patient was in the first season. This is not his first.
This is his third autistic patient
First female one though
THEY TOOK IT OFF DISNEY PLUS 😭😭
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Me as an autistic viewer of an autistic surgeon with an autistic patient: Auception.
What episode is this from
s2 e13
I don't like how they show autism in this show. There are to many mid functioning autistics and most do not act like this. I am a high functioning autistic I feel love and most emotions people have. I struggle processing emotions, but have them. I have empathy as well. How it normally goes is there are autistics that don't love at all and have no interest in it. Then you have the polar opposite like me that loves too much and wants it too much. But I do not understand a lot of social cues and stuff like that. I have to be taught what should be natural to others.
But he treated an autistic patient in S1 I guess. A boy if I remember then how can it be his first autistic patient??
“For the sex”
- Dr Shaun
Lol , i used to watch this a lot when i was like 6 or 7 and im sure i saw this one when I was 9
Now, people think only autists can talk to autists? That's just low
IS NO ONE BOUTTA TALK ABOUT THE EDIBLES BRO POPPED!?!?!
This was not his “first autistic” patient in the series
Some say I’m austic but I don’t believe that
I love the representation but from being around autistic person my entire life its kinda sad to see only one aspect of autism used
You mean 2nd autistic patients
I don’t like their view on autism.
Not everyone with autism talks looks or acts the same way. Sometimes you can’t even tell. I wish they’d do more like the Doctor with the yellow mug who didn’t want surgery. He was a little better.
Also this lady Doctor is insufferable. She does not get it
1 pill? Geez where do they get their weed?
Some of you guys are really upset that Shaun is "too autistic" and it's a more disgusting opinion than you realize. Autism is a spectrum, not everyone is the same.
That's not the problem we have. Also you assuming that and even implying that we'd ever call someone "too autistic" is pretty disgusting of yourself.
The problem is that too many characters that are depicted to be autistic are depicted with all the same stereotypical overplayed and often inaccurate characterist that makes the character seem more like a mockery of actual autistic people's experiences than any representation it's trying to give. It's extremely obvious that a neurotypical person made the character. No actual autistic person would depict him like this.
That being said, I mostly like Shaun as a character despite these facts, and they do get some things right, but it feels more like "even a broken clock is right two times a day" kind of situation, than anything else.
Also, I've never seen an autistic person act like him even remotely in real life, and I'm also autistic myself and act nothing like him. He could've been much better representation if producers actually listened to their audience and hired people who are actually part of the minorities they're trying to depict.
@@sipi2009 Yeah exactly. It's disgusting. Some people are clearly upset that his autism isn't depicted in a specific way, as if all autistic people are the same. I'm saying maybe you shouldn't be so hateful about people that are different from you. I'm sorry if this character isn't "autistic enough" for you then.
Second actually