As a nurse I have seen too many doctors who never learn this vital skill. Most doctors have some sort of quirk or communication deficiency. The surgeons tend to be worse than general medical doctors. Not only is Shawn autistic but he is very young and is still a resident. "Bedside manners" are a learned skill just like any other medical skill. Some doctors never develop effective communication skills but are still active in the medical field. Shawn needs to learn how not to be so blunt when speaking to others, including friends, family, colleagues, and patients. Some doctors never learn how to do that. If he is placed in a position where he never is able to speak with patients, he will never learn the much needed skill, and therefore, he will be wasted. His other skill he needs is the ability to be assertive and stand up for, not only himself, but also his patient's wellbeing as well. Shawn needs a really good personal mentor.
Actually, Shawn isn't really Shawn.. he's just a character in a TV show. The guys not really autistic. In fact, he's very well spoken.. speaks multiple languages... went to a top university in the world and even is an actor on a hit TV show. Safe to say, he's got great communication skills. No need to worry!
I understand dr Hahn train of thought. Shaun does struggle with communication and social ques. However Shaun was trained to be a surgeon. In his mind the thought of being anything different is not possible because he's passionate about being a surgeon and Shaun works so hard at his communication and social ques for Dr Hahn to continually tell Shaun that he's better off in pathology then being a surgeon makes sense to us but not to Shaun
Its funny how Dr Shaun comes up with genius ideas and then the other doctors improve his idea somehow and he looks at them like they are the smart ones
He had a point but it wasn't a good plan altogether because Shaun was doing incredible as a surgeon. He had flaws but his skills were far too great in the OR. It makes a whole lot of difference to look at samples in the pathology than to diagnose the patients in person and in the OR.
@@nahiyanalamgir7056yes you are so true. Sometimes path reports are not upto the mark. Shaun is great in surgery with Fanta marvelous knowledge of diagnosis. In chemist shop we can go and buy medicine 💊 💊of our choice but which one to buy needs a proper diagnosis from the doctor.
I used to be in charge of all the pathologists at quest diagnostics (running all of the anatomic pathology (cancer diagnostics)). Great doctors, but we had one with aspergers syndrome and two with mild autism. They were AMAZING diagnosticians, but their bedside manner was missing. It wasn't their fault, they had extremely high IQ but lower EQ. It was the right subspecialty for them. Plus they, in my opinion were more successful because they only dealt with slides and not patients. I had to many times be their voice to a patient or their doctor, so the point was conveyed with empathetic truth. In saying that, Shaun is different. He communicates better than some of the pathologist I worked with. I would have, as head of anatomic pathology, said I wouldn't take him in path until a meeting with the board and not until he had a full year residency in surgery. Diagnostic skills do not pigeon hole you into diagnosing via slides only as to limit patient interactions (which put some pathologists at ease). Plus, the way in which he diagnoses is like a supercomputer and usually spot on. In surgery, that is crucial when split second decisions mean life and death, the best of the best diagnosticians is a huge skill set to possess. So I would have pushed for him to stay out of path and continue to develop his surgical skill, where is he obviously belongs.
Now this type of comment pisses me off, would you like it if someone decides what you should be doing instead of what you’re clearly born to do and what you’re brilliant at. Only an egotistical person thinks like that, that doctor is clearly threatened by Shaun
I can’t imagine they would let parents who have been sitting in a dirty waiting room hold a baby (in the waiting room) right after surgery and without washing hands
You are absolutely correct they wouldn't. The baby would not have gone to a waiting room after surgery and Recovery. The baby would not have been awake after such an operation. After recovery the baby would have been taken to the hospital room that the child was in.
I am a paediatric nurse working in a PICU with many cardio patients. A kid right after cardiothoracic surgery is a HUGE deal! Depending on the type of surgery, they‘ll be on a respirator. They‘ll be connected to wound drainage systems, they may have an external pacemaker, continuous blood pressure monitoring via an artery (which needs to be on a specific height to work properly), they‘ll have a central line, they may be on pressors and they are likely to be quite unstable plus they need strong pain medications, often sedation. The only way we let a parent hold them directly after surgery is when they’re actively dying.
I think he makes a great point. Shawn would be great in Pathology, but they would have to change things to adapt to the way Shawn works. They also could have allowed him to continue being a surgeon for some cases. Allowing him to continue being a surgeon, but keeping him busy with Pathology. As time went by, Shawn might have agreed to stick to Pathology if he saved more lives doing it, than being surgeon. He might have felt a bigger accomplishment from the work than being a surgeon. I think it's the stripping suddenly of being a surgeon that really was the problem.
In the long run it's better for Shaun to be a surgeon because that's what his passion is. Moreover, he did an amazing job as a surgeon, and improved so much with communication and interaction. Imagine all the lives that wouldn't be saved without Shaun in the OR - proving Dr. Han wrong.
I have to agree. I have two autistic brothers. Both are non-verbal but very much so intelligent. That said, they do NOT like sudden changes that they do not expect. Your method would have at least given Dr. Murphy a chance to ease into the other field and make his own decision. Now, that does not mean it would have worked as he DID work hard to become a surgeon and only a surgeon in his mind. That kind of laser focus is not one that can easily be shifted. But your method would at least have a CHANCE of being successful. Rather than how Dr. Han basically ripped the rug out from under him suddenly. No matter how you slice or dice it, Dr. Han has very valid concerns, and I understand his reasons. However, there is a whole different way he could have gone about this. He admires Murphy, but he does not respect him on the same medical level. If he did, I feel like he would have tried to meet Dr. Murphy halfway. I know some people reading this will say, "Well Dr. Murphy isn't a child and needs to be treated like everyone else." To a degree, I do agree but at the same time when you have a gifted person like Murphy who has behavioral issues, you better be ready to fu(king bend or risk losing your gambit.
no he wont adapt, authistic people have their mind fixated at one single thing, they despise changes! And his reason why he wants to become a surgeon is deeply rooted by the fact that he saw his pet and his brother died before his eyes! You can never change that in them!
He has always wanted to become a surgeon even before those accidents with his pet and his brother. Those accidents were the last straw that pushed him into pursuing becoming a surgeon. Also they DO NOT despise changes, unless it's forced upon them like what Dr.Han is doing with Shawn. People with spectrum and people without spectrum despise changes, especially when they are so use to doing something they are passionate about and all of sudden they have to move to something new because someone thinks that they aren't good enough. Shawn CAN adapt, he just doesn't want to because he doesn't want to just sit around after running tests on people...
@@sherryelladora6030 Highly disagree on that point, and that wasn't the focus of why he became a surgeon, or where his skill sets would be the most vital. If he's in pathology as his primary role, he's going to be in a scenario where his social skills wouldn't grow or be able to develop, and his skill sets would be used on cases often after it's too late to course control different cases and their outcomes. He would save far more lives in the OR than he would in a lab or office. Doctor Hahn was putting Shaun on the bench, and the one who would benefit from that is Doctor Hahn's career.
Dr. Han's character is jealous of Shaun as he is better but the superego of Han won't accept it. This is seen also in many doctors especially those who were practicing for a longer time and couldn't accept that somebody new or younger would be better. Well in many professions, it applies as well.
As a NICU mom the thought that baby was anywhere other than the ICU following that surgery is laughable. The drainage from the swelling alone takes days from an open heart procedure
You need a surgeon who takes a moment before locking into their decision, as well as a surgeon who'll take that moment doubting it. This doesn't have to be one person
for anyone agree with Hahn, you are just as shallow and small minded as he was. If you watch the rest of the season, you will clearly see that Shawn greatly improves his communication skills and saves many more lives that other doctors would not have catched. but Hahn could not see that because he was small and close minded and saw Shaun‘s weaknesses in the moment and decided that was it. Because others believed in him and got him back into surgery He continued to learn and improve and his communication and peoples skills and improved others around him. If you’re agreeing with hahn, you literally the whole thing the show was trying to disprove, that hahn was wrong.
Sony Pictures Entertainment India needs to learn how to cut clips. Stop cutting out the results or good parts. Doing that just pisses people off and makes them not want to pay to watch the real thing.
This chief of surgery took the credit for the save when he was going to her die. Dr Han sucks. I’m glad he’s gone. He’s insensitive and an authoritarian.
I honestly think that most surgeons have terrible bedside skills due to the manner of their work. To trust yourself to cut someone open without mistakes requires someone who is well trained, and very self centered. This is even more true with specialized surgeons.
He's a lawsuit waiting to happen or a PR nightmare to them because of his communication issues lack of bedside manners. Though he's not that bad the other characters in the cast have done worst shit. Claire once told a patients wife her love is going to kill her husband while also having an affair with one. Morgan gaslit a couple that already made their decision because what she thinks is always right. Lim kept going behind parents back and almost got a patient killed because of her relationship issue with Andrews. None of them received punishment for those things.
What hurts is knowing when you are right, but because you can't communicate on the same level with others, they dismiss you or just don't believe you. I can say this as a fact... I am autistic.
Just think about all the patients that would die in that hospital from emergencies if Shaun was transferred to Pathology. That baby, for instance, would've died because they were turning off life support. As important as Pathology is, Shaun was where he needed to be & Dr. Hahn was too focused on Shaun's Autism & not his brilliance.
I know this is just a TV Show but the guy acting as Dr. Hun plays a real As$ Hol*. Like when he was playing Chin Ho in Hawaii Five O, he wanted more money per episode but they let his go, because he only was worth what they were paying him. That pompous as$ should had been grateful with what he had.
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As a nurse I have seen too many doctors who never learn this vital skill. Most doctors have some sort of quirk or communication deficiency. The surgeons tend to be worse than general medical doctors. Not only is Shawn autistic but he is very young and is still a resident. "Bedside manners" are a learned skill just like any other medical skill. Some doctors never develop effective communication skills but are still active in the medical field. Shawn needs to learn how not to be so blunt when speaking to others, including friends, family, colleagues, and patients. Some doctors never learn how to do that. If he is placed in a position where he never is able to speak with patients, he will never learn the much needed skill, and therefore, he will be wasted. His other skill he needs is the ability to be assertive and stand up for, not only himself, but also his patient's wellbeing as well. Shawn needs a really good personal mentor.
I wish Dr Han had a run with Dr House to see how House communicated to patients lol
Actually, Shawn isn't really Shawn.. he's just a character in a TV show. The guys not really autistic. In fact, he's very well spoken.. speaks multiple languages... went to a top university in the world and even is an actor on a hit TV show. Safe to say, he's got great communication skills. No need to worry!
Working in the NHS over 20 years I can confirm that surgeons are a breed apart and generally are not great at 'bedside manner'.😂
@@PrimeInChinaDid you just learn how acting works?
@@kristajones7202 That’s my point to the original poster. Sheesh a little slow aren’t you LOL
I understand dr Hahn train of thought. Shaun does struggle with communication and social ques. However Shaun was trained to be a surgeon. In his mind the thought of being anything different is not possible because he's passionate about being a surgeon and Shaun works so hard at his communication and social ques for Dr Hahn to continually tell Shaun that he's better off in pathology then being a surgeon makes sense to us but not to Shaun
I don't see how it makes sense when Shaun is saving lives in the OR. Han knows that as well but he's only trying to play safe.
Dr Han simply wants to get the credit?
Shaun should be given a chance
Anyone would object to having their purpose taken away, even more so when they meet every measure to fulfill it
@@nahiyanalamgir7056 Doctors need to be playing it safe - with people's lives, not just feelings
7:47 kills me everytime
"Can i give you a hug too?"
Dr. Murphy: no
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bro dipped on happiness-
Bro was Savage 😮
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Its funny how Dr Shaun comes up with genius ideas and then the other doctors improve his idea somehow and he looks at them like they are the smart ones
the sad thing is that he had a point. He would have been great in Path but without the challenge and the freedom he wants as a surgeon
He had a point but it wasn't a good plan altogether because Shaun was doing incredible as a surgeon. He had flaws but his skills were far too great in the OR. It makes a whole lot of difference to look at samples in the pathology than to diagnose the patients in person and in the OR.
@@nahiyanalamgir7056yes you are so true. Sometimes path reports are not upto the mark. Shaun is great in surgery with Fanta marvelous knowledge of diagnosis. In chemist shop we can go and buy medicine 💊 💊of our choice but which one to buy needs a proper diagnosis from the doctor.
I used to be in charge of all the pathologists at quest diagnostics (running all of the anatomic pathology (cancer diagnostics)). Great doctors, but we had one with aspergers syndrome and two with mild autism. They were AMAZING diagnosticians, but their bedside manner was missing. It wasn't their fault, they had extremely high IQ but lower EQ. It was the right subspecialty for them. Plus they, in my opinion were more successful because they only dealt with slides and not patients. I had to many times be their voice to a patient or their doctor, so the point was conveyed with empathetic truth.
In saying that, Shaun is different. He communicates better than some of the pathologist I worked with. I would have, as head of anatomic pathology, said I wouldn't take him in path until a meeting with the board and not until he had a full year residency in surgery. Diagnostic skills do not pigeon hole you into diagnosing via slides only as to limit patient interactions (which put some pathologists at ease). Plus, the way in which he diagnoses is like a supercomputer and usually spot on. In surgery, that is crucial when split second decisions mean life and death, the best of the best diagnosticians is a huge skill set to possess. So I would have pushed for him to stay out of path and continue to develop his surgical skill, where is he obviously belongs.
Maybe, but Shaun's gift was 3d spatial reasoning which applies far more to surgery
Now this type of comment pisses me off, would you like it if someone decides what you should be doing instead of what you’re clearly born to do and what you’re brilliant at. Only an egotistical person thinks like that, that doctor is clearly threatened by Shaun
I can’t imagine they would let parents who have been sitting in a dirty waiting room hold a baby (in the waiting room) right after surgery and without washing hands
You are absolutely correct they wouldn't. The baby would not have gone to a waiting room after surgery and Recovery. The baby would not have been awake after such an operation. After recovery the baby would have been taken to the hospital room that the child was in.
I thought that as they were wheeling the baby in? Wouldn’t she be in the NICU post surgery?
I am a paediatric nurse working in a PICU with many cardio patients. A kid right after cardiothoracic surgery is a HUGE deal! Depending on the type of surgery, they‘ll be on a respirator. They‘ll be connected to wound drainage systems, they may have an external pacemaker, continuous blood pressure monitoring via an artery (which needs to be on a specific height to work properly), they‘ll have a central line, they may be on pressors and they are likely to be quite unstable plus they need strong pain medications, often sedation. The only way we let a parent hold them directly after surgery is when they’re actively dying.
Exactly😢
If they had to expose the heart during surgery she probably wouldn't be wheeled out like that. Maybe this was a cut to after recovery?
The girl: can I give you a hug too doctor Murphy
:Doctor Murphy No…
Lol
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OMG DR MURPHY IS MY FAVORIT HE IS SO FLIPING XOOL
SAME BRO HE IS SO INNOCENT HAVFMCNCNXJ
He’s like the medical Dr version of Criminal Minds’ Spencer Reid : daddy issues, Idenic memory, uses his “special powers” to propel his career
I think he makes a great point. Shawn would be great in Pathology, but they would have to change things to adapt to the way Shawn works. They also could have allowed him to continue being a surgeon for some cases. Allowing him to continue being a surgeon, but keeping him busy with Pathology.
As time went by, Shawn might have agreed to stick to Pathology if he saved more lives doing it, than being surgeon. He might have felt a bigger accomplishment from the work than being a surgeon.
I think it's the stripping suddenly of being a surgeon that really was the problem.
In the long run it's better for Shaun to be a surgeon because that's what his passion is. Moreover, he did an amazing job as a surgeon, and improved so much with communication and interaction. Imagine all the lives that wouldn't be saved without Shaun in the OR - proving Dr. Han wrong.
I have to agree. I have two autistic brothers. Both are non-verbal but very much so intelligent. That said, they do NOT like sudden changes that they do not expect.
Your method would have at least given Dr. Murphy a chance to ease into the other field and make his own decision.
Now, that does not mean it would have worked as he DID work hard to become a surgeon and only a surgeon in his mind. That kind of laser focus is not one that can easily be shifted. But your method would at least have a CHANCE of being successful. Rather than how Dr. Han basically ripped the rug out from under him suddenly.
No matter how you slice or dice it, Dr. Han has very valid concerns, and I understand his reasons. However, there is a whole different way he could have gone about this.
He admires Murphy, but he does not respect him on the same medical level. If he did, I feel like he would have tried to meet Dr. Murphy halfway.
I know some people reading this will say, "Well Dr. Murphy isn't a child and needs to be treated like everyone else." To a degree, I do agree but at the same time when you have a gifted person like Murphy who has behavioral issues, you better be ready to fu(king bend or risk losing your gambit.
no he wont adapt, authistic people have their mind fixated at one single thing, they despise changes! And his reason why he wants to become a surgeon is deeply rooted by the fact that he saw his pet and his brother died before his eyes! You can never change that in them!
He has always wanted to become a surgeon even before those accidents with his pet and his brother. Those accidents were the last straw that pushed him into pursuing becoming a surgeon. Also they DO NOT despise changes, unless it's forced upon them like what Dr.Han is doing with Shawn. People with spectrum and people without spectrum despise changes, especially when they are so use to doing something they are passionate about and all of sudden they have to move to something new because someone thinks that they aren't good enough. Shawn CAN adapt, he just doesn't want to because he doesn't want to just sit around after running tests on people...
@@sherryelladora6030 Highly disagree on that point, and that wasn't the focus of why he became a surgeon, or where his skill sets would be the most vital. If he's in pathology as his primary role, he's going to be in a scenario where his social skills wouldn't grow or be able to develop, and his skill sets would be used on cases often after it's too late to course control different cases and their outcomes. He would save far more lives in the OR than he would in a lab or office. Doctor Hahn was putting Shaun on the bench, and the one who would benefit from that is Doctor Hahn's career.
Omg watching this program makes you wonder..just how many people have died due to misdiagnosis or lack of...etc😔in reality
Eh, this is very dramatized. There is no genius docs making diagnoses on the fly like that
Too many ...
8:35 this made me cry ❤❤
How
Dr. Han's character is jealous of Shaun as he is better but the superego of Han won't accept it. This is seen also in many doctors especially those who were practicing for a longer time and couldn't accept that somebody new or younger would be better. Well in many professions, it applies as well.
As a NICU mom the thought that baby was anywhere other than the ICU following that surgery is laughable. The drainage from the swelling alone takes days from an open heart procedure
You need a surgeon who takes a moment before locking into their decision, as well as a surgeon who'll take that moment doubting it.
This doesn't have to be one person
for anyone agree with Hahn, you are just as shallow and small minded as he was. If you watch the rest of the season, you will clearly see that Shawn greatly improves his communication skills and saves many more lives that other doctors would not have catched. but Hahn could not see that because he was small and close minded and saw Shaun‘s weaknesses in the moment and decided that was it. Because others believed in him and got him back into surgery He continued to learn and improve and his communication and peoples skills and improved others around him. If you’re agreeing with hahn, you literally the whole thing the show was trying to disprove, that hahn was wrong.
The Baby looks like a doll
Because it is a doll...
that "NO" what crazy
Sony Pictures Entertainment India needs to learn how to cut clips.
Stop cutting out the results or good parts. Doing that just pisses people off and makes them not want to pay to watch the real thing.
so glad han got fired. hated him.
Sameeeee
imagine a surgeon that could diagnose and fix it
Me when someone tells me I'm fine and stop acting like a big baby 00:08
This chief of surgery took the credit for the save when he was going to her die. Dr Han sucks. I’m glad he’s gone. He’s insensitive and an authoritarian.
Is it too late to ask for a house and good doctor crossover
well house can still guest appearance as consultant..or both work on an interesting operation..
House becomes humbled at this young man's super abilities as he teaches social ques. 😊
I honestly think that most surgeons have terrible bedside skills due to the manner of their work.
To trust yourself to cut someone open without mistakes requires someone who is well trained, and very self centered. This is even more true with specialized surgeons.
true. they're not nail techs listening to your probably. you're out cold while the surgeons poke through your body
Dad, hold the baby.
why the other doctors always denied his excellent works, dont they know their denial and constant distrust must have hurt him?
He's a lawsuit waiting to happen or a PR nightmare to them because of his communication issues lack of bedside manners. Though he's not that bad the other characters in the cast have done worst shit. Claire once told a patients wife her love is going to kill her husband while also having an affair with one. Morgan gaslit a couple that already made their decision because what she thinks is always right. Lim kept going behind parents back and almost got a patient killed because of her relationship issue with Andrews. None of them received punishment for those things.
What hurts is knowing when you are right, but because you can't communicate on the same level with others, they dismiss you or just don't believe you. I can say this as a fact... I am autistic.
Yeah, I had a spine surgeon that had no communication skill.
I had a breast cancer surgeon that was so incredibly nice!
They could have made the doll look a little better. 😂
No way would they let a baby be held straight out of open heart surgery
Dr Han is 100% correct.
Yo cada ves desconfío en los nuevos médicos desde hace mucho antes😢😢
Shawn is more intellectual than Doctor Honk
I can’t believe I recognized the girl from Misfits just from her eyes 😮
clearly dr han has never seen an episode of House MD.... looking through a purse chapter 2 of houses medical skillz.
House sends his team to the patients house!
there was an ad of my school when it chaneged its name
Isn't this clip from the first year? Carlee and dr hahn were in the first year.
2nd year to be precise
Can i give you a hug dr.murphy ? Answer : No
He is great
i was expecting this episode to be the "I am a surgeon" thing
It’s only a tv show 😂😂😂
Just think about all the patients that would die in that hospital from emergencies if Shaun was transferred to Pathology.
That baby, for instance, would've died because they were turning off life support.
As important as Pathology is, Shaun was where he needed to be & Dr. Hahn was too focused on Shaun's Autism & not his brilliance.
Really love this drama
Awesome movie
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Show the good doctor season 3 I believe
thats the most fakest baby ive ever seen 😂
So sick of Dr.Han😮😢
This episode made me want to slap him😂😂😂
I know this is just a TV Show but the guy acting as Dr. Hun plays a real As$ Hol*. Like when he was playing Chin Ho in Hawaii Five O, he wanted more money per episode but they let his go, because he only was worth what they were paying him. That pompous as$ should had been grateful with what he had.
If Dr. Han had approached him and suggested transferring, Sean could've considered. But just bossing people around is terrible team work
Cant he be both?
That egoisticdr Han😅
the first baby is doll
Isn't this just a PFO?
Pure jealousy
Dr Han is a user he wants to take credit for Shaun work. I never liked him. He is a bully
The Parents should not touch the baby without face mask ohalalala
This is such Indian editing
Is it bad that i hate Dr han
Yes. Please do not hate anyone.