3rd world problem: I have no electricity 1st world problem: Electricity but Xbox broken TronicsFix problem: I bought a broken Xbox but sadly it’s working
@@anthonynewcome128 Man, A friend fo mine was robed and had an nice new AC split unit ready to install, and the guys just took the interior unit and left the condenser LOL !!!!!!. He still has the condenser around .... EDIT: Misspelling and clarification LOL
I just found your videos when I was looking on how to clean my Xbox 1 X, all of this cleaning and repairing REALLY gets my intrest. Makes me want to learn and do what YOU do
I assume people just want to get as much as they can back for broken stuff when it’s closer to when it was released because they don’t want to deal with shipping the console and waiting a few weeks with Microsoft, they’d rather get their money back.
@@jasonrichardson1999 it’s not about the legality, when you mess with the sticker they know you opened it and they have to check it, which delays your replacement.
Lol here in Brazil even if it’s a “broken” console, someone buying it will demand original box and packaging it came with. I never understand why that affects them so much.. resale or not ..
Aqui en mexico cuando decimos que esta dañado, es porque la consola se esta desbaratando en las manos como si fuera un mazapan de la rosa, sin embargo, como caso curioso, tengo 3 xbox one S y por pandemia los deje sin usar, cuando los quise volver a usar ya no funcionaron, tipico de que los enciendes y se apagan segundo despues, bueno los volvi a guardar, y los saque como 1 mes despues, para "ver si lo podia reparar" bueno, para fortuna mia 2 de 3 funcionaron como si nada hubiera pasado, pero uno si seguia teniendo la misma falla asi que...... mmmm veremos
Great video! Nice to get a look at the innards of the new console. The 'goop' in the power supply is a silicone epoxy (original brand name was "Silastic"), which is commonly used to prevent vibration from working things loose. I suppose it might also serve to reduce coil whine, since it would tend to keep components from moving in response to magnetic field changes.
@@pcfic check your electrical system, there must be something wrong. e.g. the only thing that change in the first "broken" xbox was the input energy, maybe for protection the xbox turn off and also the video output was different but I don't think that could make you xbox turn off. Sorry for my bad English but I think those are some point that you need to take in count
Great video as always! For the PSU, I do also think the problem is on the voltage regulators as you pointed out. You could also check voltage on the output of the transformer or full bridge rectifier, it might help narrow the problem down.
I’m in the games console repair legion group and I find it funny how one guy seems to think it’s ok to make a big post about you but I thought the group was about helping each other just goes to show you can’t please everyone with videos ! I watch every video you upload so regardless what you upload I still think your very talented at what you do !
Lol...that was a funny post...especially because it wasn't true. I use AS5 in my videos...they just didn't take the time to find out what I use. No biggie, I'm used to it. Thanks for the comment. Glad you're enjoying the group!
Looking forward to the next one Steve. It will definitely be interesting to see the reason they're failing. It may be a case where we're forced to fix the psu rather than waiting for new ones to become available. I'd love to find out, but I can't even get a broken one in the UK yet lol
My sister actually won a bicycle, because of her drawing. We were watching a movie and then contestant winner got announced. I got was surprised. My family never wins anything. Me and my sister were very young.
I would advise to check the diodes(specially the one near Z2). And otherwise a scope with a component tester(build in or seperate) can help testing the fets and caps.
@@sys-administrator most sellers don't usually put very specific or correct descriptions, it's usually just "faulty" or "doesn't turn on" or "untested"
Hey tronics. Would there be any way you could do a video on how to safely discharge the power supply to work on it? Maybe include it when you fix that one?
The goop on the power supply is for mechanical stability, less chance of loose/broken connections from vibrations or letting the console fall. I'm curious why the power supply failed so quickly, looking forward to that video!
From my 7 years of electronics manufacturing, RTV silicone is used for part stability. So parts that could move around or be affected by vibration from a motor will get RTV placed near it or around it to a bigger more stable part. RTV is also used for things like a cluster of caps as it goes through a wave solder machine so they don't move out of the board while going over the solder pot.
There are already so many videos of xbox series X and PS5s with broken HDMI ports on youtube. I seriously don't know what people are doing with their consoles
9:16 - Looks like there's probably a bridge rectifier just above where your finger is there. It will be bolted to the first heatsink. Next to that (on the same heatsink) is likely the main switching transistor. If the bridge rectifier is working, you should be seeing around 170V DC across the largest capacitor (assuming 120V AC mains in the US), so that would rule that out. The switching transistor does a lot of heavy lifting in most switched-mode power supplies, so I would normally check that for an open circuit. If either of those two were shorted, it would have popped the fuse. The two components at 9:22 are very likely some (single or dual) rectifier diodes in each package. You can see at 9:26 how they are connected directly to the secondary windings of the transformer. So those will be for producing the 12V DC outputs. (it's unlikely they are linear voltage regs in something like this which dissipates a ton of power. It seems to have full feedback via the optocouplers on the underside anyway, so I'm fairly sure those are chunky diodes.) I suspect both of those diodes work in tandem, each one handling half of the waveform as the transformer pulses. That way, they can share the current between the two diodes. 9:20 - it looks like theres a smalller auxilliary power supply on the vertical board next to the power wire outputs. (I thought that smaller might be for the +12V2 output on the shorter black and grey wires, but it looks like those wires are just in parallel with the main 12V output.) If that is a smaller PSU, then it's likely for the Standby supply, I'm just not sure if that's also 12V or maybe 5V? One of the wires on the grey ribbon probably controls one of the optocouplers, to turn the main PSU on (soft power-on). Maybe it's just the smaller standby PSU that's failed? (if that is actually a PSU. It might just be some extra filtering or control stuff). This is SO much harder to diag from a video alone. lol
I really don’t understand how they can be ‘genuine’ machines out there with this problem - not like they are out of warranty. Obviously someone opened the second one but why would you? If I got one and a month later it developed a no power issue, I’d contact the place I purchased it and get it swapped out or at least contact MS for a repair. Mind boggles....
@@chrispybee problem being how rare they are at the moment you cant get a replacement or a fix from Microsoft, quicker to sell on and try and find another
@@AsR3DaSI’m sure if you purchased a product and it broke within a month, you can take it back to the retailer and demand a fix or replacement. If they cannot do both then a full refund would be in order. I get sell on and try and buy another but you’ll end up in the same situation where you would be without a console for some time.
@@chrispybee I agree with you that is the norm, but due to shops not being open because of lockdowns etc you can't get a refund either at the moment. Crappie situation to be in but you do what you can to recoup some money.
The gerfurganator is not sending data to the toletamonizer. Therefore causing an overload of the coils surrounding the itollimeter baffle. If you unsolder the connections to it and apply 3 drops of slametodine fluid inside the housing for those coils, you will get the necessary voltage needed once reassembled. Most importantly, make damn sure you use only pluzonium rated slametodine fluid, or else you run the risk of borylation of the spindle fibers. Hope this helps.
It’s really disappointing for the owner who sent you the first Xbox, he sent you everything in perfect condition and he didn’t even try to open it, he’s clearly an honest man . If I were you I would send it back to him and do a video of this ❤️ I hope you read this comment.
Sometimes the PSUs is working but it had detected a short or overvoltage and shuts itself off. Check for shorts on the ouput. For the overvoltage condition you need a scope. If you get voltage for some ms and it goes past 12V chances are something is messed up with the regulation. The controller of this styles of PUS unfortunatly is on the HOT SIDE, that is, ON THE INPUT (High voltage). This controller uses a resistors divider of high value to get some juice from the rectified AC so they can start and them they start to get some voltage from an aux winding. Check his resistor divider, cap and then diode and cap for the auxiliary voltage supply. You need to have a look to the manual of the chip. It is likely a PFC / PWM combo chip When there is overvoltage, the chip trips the protection. Overvoltage condition can be sent using on of the optocouplers ... also, the secondary winding I talk before ... well the chip not only get power from this point, it also monitors it, as it goes high enough it shuts off. Sometimes they go into a loop and try to re-start every 1 second or so. Sometimes they latch the error and they wont try a restart unless you discharge the main cap. This is also the unsafe part. When the latch on error, there is NOTHING to discharge the main CAP. Is can last way longer than days. I got some shocks after a couple of months. On some designs, the normal operation discharges the main cap. But in many other cases not. There is not bleeding resistor, you are not supposed to be inside LOL Appart from the fuse, is there is any thermistor in series to limit the inrush, check it.
@@Tronicsfix Just imagine how I wondered that ..... and not one time OUCH. I do repairs on laptop chargers and Computer PSUs. I hate chargers really, they dont bleed the charge and if you fail to identify the spots to do the discharge ..... OUCH. Even managed to get one blow without power, just because the stored charge was powerfull enough to blow the mosfet. I use a 30W soldering iron (cheap one, just a resistive heater) to discharge caps and a void spark shows or explosions. Be careful, you can fry the controller chip just because this spark. I killed one after "discharging it solid". I use a 50VA isolator, so Im "safe" in terms os potential and most importan, current limiting, since 50VA is pretty weak, a solid short doen not even have power to spark, but .... not for long without frying the isolator. Issue is, isolator can limit the mains current, but once the charge has been stored, a bad desicion can still blow thing very hard. Again, just dont ask me how I know LOL
It is very rare to see bad components in an assembly since these PCBAs are supposed to pass an ICT and FCT (internal circuit test/functional circuit test). If their QA control is not so robust probably the operator changed the wrong components reel onto the chip mounter and placed some SMT parts on the wrong location (you could take a look at the serial codes on top of the components and compare if you have the time) or there is a component that was reversed mounted and it is blocking the current somewhere in the circuit. Usually, when the second thing happens you should look at the diodes (the first ones you mentioned, black small rectangle-shaped).
'Epoxy" is not for coil-whine, it's for 'ruggedising' also: Start by checking the voltage from the regs, also check if it has any kind of overload gas-arrestor or thermal cut-out, then check the coil impedances.... basic PSU stuff
I have an Atari 2600 ,sega genesis, Nintendo and super N,my playstation ps1,2,3,4 and they all work..... Take care of your stuff and no problems on my end
@J Fz you are right . It is not always the fault of the user to break the console. The people who make their consoles exposed to pests get problem soon
any console's first models are gonna have problems, is your ps2 one of the first models? check the back and if it has a HHD cover then no it's not one of the first.
Hi TronicsFix. I love your videos my friend, I don't know why but it's kinda relaxing...and useful of course. I used a video of yours of the PS4 Pro teardown to clean and change the thermal paste from my console. Thanks and keep up with the great work! Cheers from Brazil
@@RaspberryBang Thats why i said that it "could become" a common issue, as in it doesn't have to but maybe there is a possibility that we will see more Xbox Series X with the same issue.
Probably was someone plugging it into a dirty power source. You shouldn't really plug a game console into the same line as a refrigerator or dryer. Recommend getting a sine wave filtered UPS for your electronics if you really care about them. It would also protect them if a transformer in your neighborhood blows or transients go through your line. Dirty power is also more common in older buildings and buildings with tons of appliances like apartments. Just in general, highly recommend a UPS for your expensive electronics. It will even protect them when the power goes out.
Check the two optocouplers which are mounted diagonally near where the flex cable is soldered to the PCB. These provide feedback for the SMPS controller and are a known failure point in this type of supplies. Out of circuit they should measure about 1.25V on the diode test setting on one side and open circuit on the other.
the grey stuff is usually just there to stop the taller components flexing back and forth, possibly damaging or breaking their contacts to the board. it’s very common.
the USA wages is so high they dont even bother to fix a brand new console. a matter of fact, they dont even bother to check that it's really broken lol
nastystang113 There shouldn’t be a minimum wage. Let a free market handle decide what the wage should be. It’s better to let people decide for themselves if the wage is enough to apply for the job. If I’m looking for a new job I’m going to be looking at the wage first and foremost. I would hope everyone does the same. In Florida $15/hr was just passed but it doesn’t start for a couple of months and we have already seen multiple stores get rid of every single cashier and go 100% self check out. I’m not exaggerating either. Nearly every single cashier was let go except a few to be the self check out supervisor. Now all of those jobs have been removed from the job market instead of letting people decide if it was enough money. If the company doesn’t have any workers they will be forced to pay more. I’d rather see something done about inflation. Unfortunately it looks like the job market is going to be pretty bleak for the next four years.
If you really want to repair the Switching power supply, identify the main control ic and find some reference schematics. There are only a few easy fixing possibilities on SPSUs. If the main ic or the main switchin mosfet is blown, usually ther is a lot of colleateral damage and needs too much time to find and replace. But on some lucky cases, there are 3 common failures, which can easily be fixed. On the primary path, check the rectifier bridge for shorted diodes. But this would normally also blow the fuse, so i think that is not the problem here. Find any high ohm resistor, like 1M 1,5M or two 750k ohms resitors in series and measure them. On a lot of spsu designs these are used for bootstraping the power for initial starting up the main control ic. Some times, they blow just by getting connected to the mains and you can simply replace them. Also, there is often a small electrolyte cap on the primary side near the ic which can dry up. These caps smooth out the operating voltage for the ic, generated by the flyback process of the circuit. But that is normally a known fault after long time of operation. The last easy fix which comes to my mind is a shorted Rectifier Diode on the secondary side of the transformer. Normally ther are 2 or 3 voltages generated, if one path is shorted, the protection mechanisms of control ics stop the operation instantly. Really appreciate your videos!
Steve, bit of info from personal experience. Capacitors CAN charge back up off fluorescent lighting over time. If you're going to leave a PS out for extended periods , clip one side of the cap to ground so it can't charge.
Those tiny resistors have the values printed on them. You can use your multimeter to see if the value is about right. If one gives no reading you can desolder it you can buy them in strips for pennies.
@@johnmiceter yea but you saw the vid with the pallet of ps4’s and more than half of them were in great condition i think that is what will happen with the ps5.
@@albin9297 another reason why more playstations seem to be faulty is more of them are made and more sold, so more chance of finding faulty ones. Didnt the ps4 sell like double the xbox and so far this gen its looking like it will be the same as the ps5 is in such high demand.
@@johnmiceter i do agree the ps5 was selling on a sec every launch hour the xbox in the other hand is stillnot selling. On gamestop or every store the playstation5 is out of stock while there is plenty xbox x’s.
@@albin9297 You realize they're both sold out everywhere right? You can't lie about that, it's easy to check. They both sellout within a minute everywhere. I know you hate to hear this, but both consoles are extremely popular and we won't know until they are both reliably in stock which one is more popular.
For your power supply I'd suggest reading up on general switch mode PSU theory a bit. Basically input mains is rectified to DC, shoved across a big smoothing cap (the one that can zap you) then an oscillator circuit controlled by feedback from the output of the transformer puts high frequency AC into the input side of the transformer. The output is rectified bck to DC, a few smaller smoothing capacitors exist, and that's it. If the big capacitor gets DC voltage on it (about 180v) then input diodes are ok. Check transformer output with meter on AC to see if anything is coming out, if not then problem is in feedback/primary oscillation circuit (may be discrete components ending with MOSFETs switching the power, or a dedicated special power chip). If transformer output has AC voltage then issue is in output rectifier diodes. If issue is in the oscillator part then unfortunately you have to spend ages working out how that part of the circuit is done and check each component in it. I'd guess a failed power mosfet or other silicon device. Hope this helps.
Send the power supply to Louis Rossmann. Would make a good video because he will test and tell you what every single component on that power supply is and what it does as well as showing the repair.
I'm not a expert but have a advantage. My grandfather has test equipment. He restores vintage electronics for a hobby. Very interesting buy I save enough I might gamble and order a couple of these.
The little daughter board with green capacitors on it doesn't look like it's soldered at all. It's stuck in the holes, but there's obvious gaps around the 3 pins going into the main board. I can't really tell what its purpose is in the circuit, and I wouldn't think that would cause no power, but it's something to check anyway.
I would recommend starting from the output of the power supply and working my way through the IC chips checking for shorts between input/output and ground.
Why am I watching this.. I can't afford an Xbox Series X, I'm still playing the original Xbox. Anyway, it's informative if I ever get my hands on a broken one. And of course, be mindful of the hazards he explained. Great video!
If I were to guess I would bet on (most probable first): 1) bad key mosfet 2) bad power IC (if there is any) 3) term fuse (in circuit or in the transformer) 4) physical issue (bad joint, either cold solder or damaged joint) I would be very surprised if it were the caps since it's too new for the caps to cause any issues. I'll be looking forward to your diagnosis of this issue.
Check the voltage on the bus cap. If you have voltage there then your ac to dc conversion section is good. If no voltage on the bus cap. Check the rectifier to see if that is good. Should at least help isolate which half of the supply is bad.
I was thinking the glue or goop is to help hold larger components in place before the boards are run through a solder bath so they don't move. These larger components used to be installed by people and not machines so they glued them in place. Smaller components like IC chips, small caps, diodes are installed by machine then it's run across hot solder pool to solder all connection points at once. That is how it used to be done from what I remember in College but may have changed with more modern precision robotic tech, etc.
I would follow the AC voltage and see where it goes and compare that to the good power supply. You are most likely right with either a Mosfet or Power Inverter chip.
Moment of silence for the guy who sold his brand new Xbox thinking it was broken
Ha, ha!
omg true
I get that someone might not do basic troubleshooting, But why not warranty it?
Could have also sold it "as is" so no chance for return or refund. Another way of saying the sale is final.
Especially if they sold it higher than MSRP.
3rd world problem: I have no electricity
1st world problem: Electricity but Xbox broken
TronicsFix problem: I bought a broken Xbox but sadly it’s working
🤣👍
In Russia we have electricity...
@I killed that beard guy have electricity but no new xbox??
Same
@I killed that beard guy haha
nigeria problem: oh frick power went out when i was playing on my ps3
"it was supposed to be broken, so it will be a boring video. luckily"
*takes out hammer*
Lol...shoulda done that!
funny impatient...
Maybe we can get a crossover episode to show us the power of Flex Tape
Lol. That’s funny. Should do that one day.
@@Tronicsfix yup next video ok
As soon as that Xbox started working fine, I had to double check the video length xD
Funny, I did the same thing :D
"Sister won it in a raffle", translation: It was stolen lol
😂
Large Gluttonous Facts
And damaged during the theft lmao
ha ha also comes with no controller ......translation "they couldn't find it while robbing the house"
@@anthonynewcome128 Man, A friend fo mine was robed and had an nice new AC split unit ready to install, and the guys just took the interior unit and left the condenser LOL !!!!!!. He still has the condenser around .... EDIT: Misspelling and clarification LOL
I just found your videos when I was looking on how to clean my Xbox 1 X, all of this cleaning and repairing REALLY gets my intrest. Makes me want to learn and do what YOU do
Why didn’t the original owner send it to Microsoft it has one year warranty
Shhhh.... Don't ask questions because we won't have a video to watch 😂
I assume people just want to get as much as they can back for broken stuff when it’s closer to when it was released because they don’t want to deal with shipping the console and waiting a few weeks with Microsoft, they’d rather get their money back.
Could be it’s broken for a reason not covered under warranty
The second guy broke the seal above the screw.
@@BillyMcBillface
Took 5 days for me to send mine to Microsoft and receive a new one back.
Very easy process.
'sister won in a raffle' = stolen or scalpers
No controller either , stolen.
@@billshull9468 He could have sold the controller alone too. I'm pretty sure they're worth more alone than with the xbox
@@old-royking Random string of words is random.
Yeah it’s my stollen system I got it broken and shipped it to Microsoft and it got stolen...
fyi anyone having issues with their new Series, don't mess with the warranty sticker just contact MS and they'll replace it for you.
Technically a warranty sticker is illegal
@@jasonrichardson1999 it’s not about the legality, when you mess with the sticker they know you opened it and they have to check it, which delays your replacement.
We kno
My issue is that there aren’t any available.
They wont replace it because there are no extra units.
Submit the complain and wait...
"Won in a raffle" = Stolen and sold quick
Here in Brasil, when they say it is "broken" it means it is completely destroyed and yet the price is high.
Here in Argentina if it is broken we say we tie it with a wire
Lol here in Brazil even if it’s a “broken” console, someone buying it will demand original box and packaging it came with. I never understand why that affects them so much.. resale or not ..
Daora cara, quer um balão?
Here in America if something is broken, it’s a scratch
Aqui en mexico cuando decimos que esta dañado, es porque la consola se esta desbaratando en las manos como si fuera un mazapan de la rosa, sin embargo, como caso curioso, tengo 3 xbox one S y por pandemia los deje sin usar, cuando los quise volver a usar ya no funcionaron, tipico de que los enciendes y se apagan segundo despues, bueno los volvi a guardar, y los saque como 1 mes despues, para "ver si lo podia reparar" bueno, para fortuna mia 2 de 3 funcionaron como si nada hubiera pasado, pero uno si seguia teniendo la misma falla asi que...... mmmm veremos
Imagine the person who sold the first Xbox watching this video
He has no time, to busy... right now he is stealing the next one.
@@Steppenwolf3 lol
I've gotta say I love how easy it is to tear down a Series X compared to the 360 and Xbox-One line series of consoles.
Great video! Nice to get a look at the innards of the new console.
The 'goop' in the power supply is a silicone epoxy (original brand name was "Silastic"), which is commonly used to prevent vibration from working things loose. I suppose it might also serve to reduce coil whine, since it would tend to keep components from moving in response to magnetic field changes.
It must suck being the person who sold a fine xbox SX as broken lmao
Lol...I agree!
@@Tronicsfix mine does the same thing as his it turns on and then turns off instantly. Can you help me?
@@pcfic check your electrical system, there must be something wrong. e.g. the only thing that change in the first "broken" xbox was the input energy, maybe for protection the xbox turn off and also the video output was different but I don't think that could make you xbox turn off.
Sorry for my bad English but I think those are some point that you need to take in count
@@pcfic try different outlet and try without an extension cord or surge protector
@@pcfic might sound stupid but try rotating the power cord the other way round in the back of the console.
Great video as always! For the PSU, I do also think the problem is on the voltage regulators as you pointed out. You could also check voltage on the output of the transformer or full bridge rectifier, it might help narrow the problem down.
Man you are a true legend. I learn so much from you. I hope in future you will make videos on fixing gaming laptops
I'm planning on it!
@@Tronicsfix that will be great. Because many gaming laptops have heating and sudden fps drops issues
@@Tronicsfix or fixing macbooks??
I’m in the games console repair legion group and I find it funny how one guy seems to think it’s ok to make a big post about you but I thought the group was about helping each other just goes to show you can’t please everyone with videos ! I watch every video you upload so regardless what you upload I still think your very talented at what you do !
Lol...that was a funny post...especially because it wasn't true. I use AS5 in my videos...they just didn't take the time to find out what I use. No biggie, I'm used to it. Thanks for the comment. Glad you're enjoying the group!
I love when you fix consoles. These videos are just so addictive!!
So glad you're enjoying these!
Looking forward to the next one Steve. It will definitely be interesting to see the reason they're failing. It may be a case where we're forced to fix the psu rather than waiting for new ones to become available. I'd love to find out, but I can't even get a broken one in the UK yet lol
The 2nd xbox was "won" in a raffle"
Right....
basically slang for stolen. clearly a nicked console lol, prob couldn't find the controller or had to get in and out of the house quickly
@@SirZanZa Probably dropped it or something while in a hurry also lmao. Hence the “broken” sale.
facebook is full of raffles for ps5 and xboxes.very common so probably true
@@joebloggs3358 Definitely far from the truth lmao
My sister actually won a bicycle, because of her drawing. We were watching a movie and then contestant winner got announced. I got was surprised. My family never wins anything. Me and my sister were very young.
I would advise to check the diodes(specially the one near Z2). And otherwise a scope with a component tester(build in or seperate) can help testing the fets and caps.
WHY IS THERE A NEXT GEN CONSOLE THATS BROKEN WHEN I DONT EVEN HAVE ONE YET?!
People being bad at taking care of their stuff lol
Probably because the idiots who vaped in them short circuited the motherboard
It took me like a month to finally get my hands on one. I hope you are able to get one 👍🏻 keep your hopes up.
@@leogarcia8640 100% right. People are dumb
@@sys-administrator most sellers don't usually put very specific or correct descriptions, it's usually just "faulty" or "doesn't turn on" or "untested"
Man I felt SO BAD for that seller when it just needed an update 😔 that’s rough 😂
😭🤣
This video will be interesting to watch, and exciting to see how to see how Xbox series X’s are fixed
Just got another one in so I'll be making another video about that one.
Excited to that one! You always make interesting good videos to watch and learn, I look forward to all future videos you have planned
Yeah will be interesting to see what part he fixes the most of them!
Thanks for the totally necessary comment
The old "turn it upside down" repair technique. Works surprisingly often.
I feel bad for the first person who sold it lol
Hey Steve, thank you for the Repair Legion shout out 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Here supporting and learning every time.
My pleasure...love that group!
What do you want to see me (try to) fix next?
A video card or any pc components you only do consoles
There is DO or DO NOT. There is no TRY
-Yoda.
Did you try blowing on the cartridge?
Will a Nintendo games work on Xbox one X?
That won't work unless you tap on the sides first and then blow it
@@rpgamezzz270 yes watch muta vid
@@Lcgx I don't think you get the joke. watch that guy video up there (Jacob R)
@@rpgamezzz270 no sorry read like a regular question didnt see any joke…
Hey tronics. Would there be any way you could do a video on how to safely discharge the power supply to work on it? Maybe include it when you fix that one?
Ha, ha...just did that yesterday while filming part two of my PS5 coil whine video.
@@Tronicsfix awesome thankyou! Youre the best
The goop on the power supply is for mechanical stability, less chance of loose/broken connections from vibrations or letting the console fall. I'm curious why the power supply failed so quickly, looking forward to that video!
“Don’t mess with the power supply at home”
Also tronic fix: continue to mess with the power supply at home lmao
i hope no one does try this at home, this is really dangerous unless you are trained.
That is because he is professional in such stuffs
@@kennethboateng6987 it was meant to be a joke since he never mentioned the “unless your professional”
@@hoppergrass9425 Thanks
he discharged it, he even said so in the video
From my 7 years of electronics manufacturing, RTV silicone is used for part stability. So parts that could move around or be affected by vibration from a motor will get RTV placed near it or around it to a bigger more stable part. RTV is also used for things like a cluster of caps as it goes through a wave solder machine so they don't move out of the board while going over the solder pot.
I used to do Ebay repairs about a decade ago or so, and it really is surprising that people list things as broken which end up just fine.
Flux capacitor needs knew spring bearings I'm pretty sure.
There are already so many videos of xbox series X and PS5s with broken HDMI ports on youtube. I seriously don't know what people are doing with their consoles
Agreed. Seems strange that people can't figure out how to plug in HDMI cables after all these years.
Awesome. I love that there are so many xboxes with such a simple issue. And people like u fix them 👍
This dude should have more subscribers because what he does is amazing
9:16 - Looks like there's probably a bridge rectifier just above where your finger is there. It will be bolted to the first heatsink.
Next to that (on the same heatsink) is likely the main switching transistor.
If the bridge rectifier is working, you should be seeing around 170V DC across the largest capacitor (assuming 120V AC mains in the US), so that would rule that out.
The switching transistor does a lot of heavy lifting in most switched-mode power supplies, so I would normally check that for an open circuit. If either of those two were shorted, it would have popped the fuse.
The two components at 9:22 are very likely some (single or dual) rectifier diodes in each package. You can see at 9:26 how they are connected directly to the secondary windings of the transformer.
So those will be for producing the 12V DC outputs.
(it's unlikely they are linear voltage regs in something like this which dissipates a ton of power. It seems to have full feedback via the optocouplers on the underside anyway, so I'm fairly sure those are chunky diodes.)
I suspect both of those diodes work in tandem, each one handling half of the waveform as the transformer pulses.
That way, they can share the current between the two diodes.
9:20 - it looks like theres a smalller auxilliary power supply on the vertical board next to the power wire outputs.
(I thought that smaller might be for the +12V2 output on the shorter black and grey wires, but it looks like those wires are just in parallel with the main 12V output.)
If that is a smaller PSU, then it's likely for the Standby supply, I'm just not sure if that's also 12V or maybe 5V?
One of the wires on the grey ribbon probably controls one of the optocouplers, to turn the main PSU on (soft power-on).
Maybe it's just the smaller standby PSU that's failed? (if that is actually a PSU. It might just be some extra filtering or control stuff).
This is SO much harder to diag from a video alone. lol
Never heard of a warranty? The person who sold this had to have stole it
The screw was exposed and had been opened before if you do that warranty is voided
I really don’t understand how they can be ‘genuine’ machines out there with this problem - not like they are out of warranty. Obviously someone opened the second one but why would you? If I got one and a month later it developed a no power issue, I’d contact the place I purchased it and get it swapped out or at least contact MS for a repair. Mind boggles....
@@chrispybee problem being how rare they are at the moment you cant get a replacement or a fix from Microsoft, quicker to sell on and try and find another
@@AsR3DaSI’m sure if you purchased a product and it broke within a month, you can take it back to the retailer and demand a fix or replacement. If they cannot do both then a full refund would be in order. I get sell on and try and buy another but you’ll end up in the same situation where you would be without a console for some time.
@@chrispybee I agree with you that is the norm, but due to shops not being open because of lockdowns etc you can't get a refund either at the moment. Crappie situation to be in but you do what you can to recoup some money.
This is why I wait several months after new hardware comes out I did that with the Switch got one at the end of 2017 and have had no issues at all.
"Won in a raffle by my sister".... Right, as if anyone will believe that.
So what would it be otherwise
@@hano5277 he stole it
I own a PS5 but seriously, watching you bring that Xbox back to life was epic! you make it look easy
When scalpers are selling brand new consoles at extreme prices and they could already be broken or defective.
The gerfurganator is not sending data to the toletamonizer. Therefore causing an overload of the coils surrounding the itollimeter baffle. If you unsolder the connections to it and apply 3 drops of slametodine fluid inside the housing for those coils, you will get the necessary voltage needed once reassembled. Most importantly, make damn sure you use only pluzonium rated slametodine fluid, or else you run the risk of borylation of the spindle fibers. Hope this helps.
😭 mans was definitely playing Cold War and thought it was his console
Can we appreciate how smart he is
It’s really disappointing for the owner who sent you the first Xbox, he sent you everything in perfect condition and he didn’t even try to open it, he’s clearly an honest man . If I were you I would send it back to him and do a video of this ❤️ I hope you read this comment.
Sometimes the PSUs is working but it had detected a short or overvoltage and shuts itself off. Check for shorts on the ouput. For the overvoltage condition you need a scope. If you get voltage for some ms and it goes past 12V chances are something is messed up with the regulation. The controller of this styles of PUS unfortunatly is on the HOT SIDE, that is, ON THE INPUT (High voltage). This controller uses a resistors divider of high value to get some juice from the rectified AC so they can start and them they start to get some voltage from an aux winding. Check his resistor divider, cap and then diode and cap for the auxiliary voltage supply. You need to have a look to the manual of the chip. It is likely a PFC / PWM combo chip When there is overvoltage, the chip trips the protection. Overvoltage condition can be sent using on of the optocouplers ... also, the secondary winding I talk before ... well the chip not only get power from this point, it also monitors it, as it goes high enough it shuts off. Sometimes they go into a loop and try to re-start every 1 second or so. Sometimes they latch the error and they wont try a restart unless you discharge the main cap. This is also the unsafe part. When the latch on error, there is NOTHING to discharge the main CAP. Is can last way longer than days. I got some shocks after a couple of months. On some designs, the normal operation discharges the main cap. But in many other cases not. There is not bleeding resistor, you are not supposed to be inside LOL Appart from the fuse, is there is any thermistor in series to limit the inrush, check it.
Thanks for the tips! I've seen these caps have voltage for a long time after being turned off...especially in broken PSU's.
@@Tronicsfix Just imagine how I wondered that ..... and not one time OUCH. I do repairs on laptop chargers and Computer PSUs. I hate chargers really, they dont bleed the charge and if you fail to identify the spots to do the discharge ..... OUCH. Even managed to get one blow without power, just because the stored charge was powerfull enough to blow the mosfet. I use a 30W soldering iron (cheap one, just a resistive heater) to discharge caps and a void spark shows or explosions. Be careful, you can fry the controller chip just because this spark. I killed one after "discharging it solid". I use a 50VA isolator, so Im "safe" in terms os potential and most importan, current limiting, since 50VA is pretty weak, a solid short doen not even have power to spark, but .... not for long without frying the isolator. Issue is, isolator can limit the mains current, but once the charge has been stored, a bad desicion can still blow thing very hard. Again, just dont ask me how I know LOL
How about try to see with a thermal camera? The broken components do generally get warmer.
It is very rare to see bad components in an assembly since these PCBAs are supposed to pass an ICT and FCT (internal circuit test/functional circuit test).
If their QA control is not so robust probably the operator changed the wrong components reel onto the chip mounter and placed some SMT parts on the wrong location (you could take a look at the serial codes on top of the components and compare if you have the time) or there is a component that was reversed mounted and it is blocking the current somewhere in the circuit. Usually, when the second thing happens you should look at the diodes (the first ones you mentioned, black small rectangle-shaped).
Famous first words: "I paid way too much for this."
Lol!
@@Tronicsfix do you pay above retail?
Probably not as much as the guy who originally bought it from the scalper.
'Epoxy" is not for coil-whine, it's for 'ruggedising' also: Start by checking the voltage from the regs, also check if it has any kind of overload gas-arrestor or thermal cut-out, then check the coil impedances.... basic PSU stuff
Why didn't the original owner just put it between two slices of bread and call it a sandwich?
I think we'd all like to know that answer to that question.
Adhesive is not for reducing any noise. It's used to hold large components in place,
How do people manage to break their consoles when in warranty??!! I have a PS2 which is working fine!
I got a Model 2 Genesis that still works just fine.
Well, when they broke into someone's house to steal it, they ended up dropping it on the way out the window.
I have an Atari 2600 ,sega genesis, Nintendo and super N,my playstation ps1,2,3,4 and they all work..... Take care of your stuff and no problems on my end
@J Fz you are right . It is not always the fault of the user to break the console. The people who make their consoles exposed to pests get problem soon
any console's first models are gonna have problems,
is your ps2 one of the first models? check the back and if it has a HHD cover then no it's not one of the first.
Hi TronicsFix. I love your videos my friend, I don't know why but it's kinda relaxing...and useful of course. I used a video of yours of the PS4 Pro teardown to clean and change the thermal paste from my console. Thanks and keep up with the great work! Cheers from Brazil
"Don't mess with any sort power supplies at home", Guess I'll be doing it at the office then
I would've laughed so hard if you'd just ended the video after discovering that it just needed an update. Great vids! Keep'em coming!
I'm interested in what has caused the power supply to "break" since it could become a common issue on the Xbox Series X.
Me too. I'll be trying to figure that out in a future video.
Me too
It's one console. You can't extrapolate anything about faulty hardware or failure rate from a solitary instance.
@@RaspberryBang Thats why i said that it "could become" a common issue, as in it doesn't have to but maybe there is a possibility that we will see more Xbox Series X with the same issue.
Probably was someone plugging it into a dirty power source. You shouldn't really plug a game console into the same line as a refrigerator or dryer. Recommend getting a sine wave filtered UPS for your electronics if you really care about them. It would also protect them if a transformer in your neighborhood blows or transients go through your line. Dirty power is also more common in older buildings and buildings with tons of appliances like apartments. Just in general, highly recommend a UPS for your expensive electronics. It will even protect them when the power goes out.
Check the two optocouplers which are mounted diagonally near where the flex cable is soldered to the PCB. These provide feedback for the SMPS controller and are a known failure point in this type of supplies. Out of circuit they should measure about 1.25V on the diode test setting on one side and open circuit on the other.
- TronicsFix: And once again, please don't try anything like this at home
- ElectroBOOM: Hold my bAAAAAHHHHHHHHH*BEEP*... *BEEP*
the grey stuff is usually just there to stop the taller components flexing back and forth, possibly damaging or breaking their contacts to the board. it’s very common.
the USA wages is so high they dont even bother to fix a brand new console.
a matter of fact, they dont even bother to check that it's really broken lol
ebay seller probably bought it from a scalper and they dont have warranty
nastystang113
There shouldn’t be a minimum wage. Let a free market handle decide what the wage should be. It’s better to let people decide for themselves if the wage is enough to apply for the job. If I’m looking for a new job I’m going to be looking at the wage first and foremost. I would hope everyone does the same.
In Florida $15/hr was just passed but it doesn’t start for a couple of months and we have already seen multiple stores get rid of every single cashier and go 100% self check out. I’m not exaggerating either. Nearly every single cashier was let go except a few to be the self check out supervisor. Now all of those jobs have been removed from the job market instead of letting people decide if it was enough money. If the company doesn’t have any workers they will be forced to pay more. I’d rather see something done about inflation. Unfortunately it looks like the job market is going to be pretty bleak for the next four years.
If you really want to repair the Switching power supply, identify the main control ic and find some reference schematics. There are only a few easy fixing possibilities on SPSUs. If the main ic or the main switchin mosfet is blown, usually ther is a lot of colleateral damage and needs too much time to find and replace. But on some lucky cases, there are 3 common failures, which can easily be fixed. On the primary path, check the rectifier bridge for shorted diodes. But this would normally also blow the fuse, so i think that is not the problem here. Find any high ohm resistor, like 1M 1,5M or two 750k ohms resitors in series and measure them. On a lot of spsu designs these are used for bootstraping the power for initial starting up the main control ic. Some times, they blow just by getting connected to the mains and you can simply replace them.
Also, there is often a small electrolyte cap on the primary side near the ic which can dry up. These caps smooth out the operating voltage for the ic, generated by the flyback process of the circuit.
But that is normally a known fault after long time of operation.
The last easy fix which comes to my mind is a shorted Rectifier Diode on the secondary side of the transformer. Normally ther are 2 or 3 voltages generated, if one path is shorted, the protection mechanisms of control ics stop the operation instantly.
Really appreciate your videos!
My series X is currently being repaired by Microsoft due to not turning on
Wonder if there's been a faulty batch of power supplies.
That's interesting. I wonder the same thing. I have another one here with the same problem so it'll be interesting to see if it's a PSU issue.
PSU "protection"?
My bros xbox had this happened too. Definitely a faulty power supplies in some of these XSX’s
@@cciureanu power supply unit
@@HeenaPatel253 I know what PSU means. I imagine there's some protection (like a condenser), it blocks the source for a while (while it discharges).
Steve, bit of info from personal experience. Capacitors CAN charge back up off fluorescent lighting over time. If you're going to leave a PS out for extended periods , clip one side of the cap to ground so it can't charge.
Next video: I bought a 20 piece lot of faulty Xbox Series X consoles, because I make bad decisions 😂
Lol...that's coming, I'm sure!
Those tiny resistors have the values printed on them. You can use your multimeter to see if the value is about right. If one gives no reading you can desolder it you can buy them in strips for pennies.
When is “I bought 22 ps5 let’s see if i can make some money” coming??
That would never happen mate, PS5's are very well built and would have one of those anyway over a over hyped xbox.
@@johnmiceter yea but you saw the vid with the pallet of ps4’s and more than half of them were in great condition i think that is what will happen with the ps5.
@@albin9297 another reason why more playstations seem to be faulty is more of them are made and more sold, so more chance of finding faulty ones. Didnt the ps4 sell like double the xbox and so far this gen its looking like it will be the same as the ps5 is in such high demand.
@@johnmiceter i do agree the ps5 was selling on a sec every launch hour the xbox in the other hand is stillnot selling. On gamestop or every store the playstation5 is out of stock while there is plenty xbox x’s.
@@albin9297 You realize they're both sold out everywhere right? You can't lie about that, it's easy to check. They both sellout within a minute everywhere. I know you hate to hear this, but both consoles are extremely popular and we won't know until they are both reliably in stock which one is more popular.
Your videos are awesome. You helped me fix my overheating PS4 Pro, I needed to replace the thermal paste. Thank you!
7:57 there you go, not enough AC voltage ;) you need twice that to power stuff
in America the standard wall outlet is 120v. Only large appliances use 240v, which is standard in other parts of the world.
For your power supply I'd suggest reading up on general switch mode PSU theory a bit. Basically input mains is rectified to DC, shoved across a big smoothing cap (the one that can zap you) then an oscillator circuit controlled by feedback from the output of the transformer puts high frequency AC into the input side of the transformer. The output is rectified bck to DC, a few smaller smoothing capacitors exist, and that's it. If the big capacitor gets DC voltage on it (about 180v) then input diodes are ok. Check transformer output with meter on AC to see if anything is coming out, if not then problem is in feedback/primary oscillation circuit (may be discrete components ending with MOSFETs switching the power, or a dedicated special power chip). If transformer output has AC voltage then issue is in output rectifier diodes. If issue is in the oscillator part then unfortunately you have to spend ages working out how that part of the circuit is done and check each component in it. I'd guess a failed power mosfet or other silicon device. Hope this helps.
Send the power supply to Louis Rossmann. Would make a good video because he will test and tell you what every single component on that power supply is and what it does as well as showing the repair.
Over the last two days I've watched tons of your repairing videos, it was so fun
That first xbox I bet was plugged into a cheap "surge protector" by original owner and couldn't get enough power.
That's what I was guessing but who knows.
I'm not a expert but have a advantage. My grandfather has test equipment. He restores vintage electronics for a hobby. Very interesting buy I save enough I might gamble and order a couple of these.
"i paid more for a broken Xbox Seris X than a new one!"
Pretty much this video haha
The little daughter board with green capacitors on it doesn't look like it's soldered at all. It's stuck in the holes, but there's obvious gaps around the 3 pins going into the main board. I can't really tell what its purpose is in the circuit, and I wouldn't think that would cause no power, but it's something to check anyway.
So this guy didn’t get a warranty and he already broke his Xbox 👏🏻
Well I mean he can’t get a Xbox rn anyway so why not
I have been excited for so many months for you to start making content fixing the new consoles
Why does the Xbox insides look like a c4 lol
Thats my question xd
Yeah!
It looks just like the Xbox One from the inside. Its just more compact.
it needs a keypad though, then it'll be like a CS:GO brick...
I really like the inside modular design of the SX and the big labels on the parts like DISC, FAN, CBL
I wonder how many of these are "accidentally" broken by reverse engineering attempts.
I would recommend starting from the output of the power supply and working my way through the IC chips checking for shorts between input/output and ground.
"I've got ANOTHER XSX right here!" :D Dude, you don't have to rub it in :D
Why am I watching this.. I can't afford an Xbox Series X, I'm still playing the original Xbox. Anyway, it's informative if I ever get my hands on a broken one. And of course, be mindful of the hazards he explained.
Great video!
and the scores of broken X boxes start rolling in.......
If I were to guess I would bet on (most probable first):
1) bad key mosfet
2) bad power IC (if there is any)
3) term fuse (in circuit or in the transformer)
4) physical issue (bad joint, either cold solder or damaged joint)
I would be very surprised if it were the caps since it's too new for the caps to cause any issues.
I'll be looking forward to your diagnosis of this issue.
Uh oh, there's about to be a whole lot of silly questions in the group 😬😅
Agreed! I asked the group admin if they would like a shout out and warned them about that but they still wanted it...so here we are!
@@Tronicsfix at least i won't seem like such an amateur anymore 😁😅 I'll be able to answer some questions instead of just ask haha
Ahh, you mean those silly questions that could have been answered by a simple google search.
This channel is amazing
Now it's time for everybody's favourite part...
***everybody***
LET'S TAKE IT APART!!
(I love that bit!)
The hardware's so damn sleek. Really love the modular design of it, especially as an SFFPC fan.
Can't wait for him to upload his "I bought the first broken KFC Console on eBay - can i fix it?" Video.
I will definitely chick - in to see that one
Check the voltage on the bus cap. If you have voltage there then your ac to dc conversion section is good. If no voltage on the bus cap. Check the rectifier to see if that is good. Should at least help isolate which half of the supply is bad.
xbox controllers still look the same afer 10 years LoL
Facts ps5 way better
They are the same like wtf
@@jeffreyshriner7971 I wasn't starting a war tell you were like dont start like stfu
if it aint broke, dont fix it
@@milad3334 ps copied Xbox’s controller design but okay lmao
I was thinking the glue or goop is to help hold larger components in place before the boards are run through a solder bath so they don't move. These larger components used to be installed by people and not machines so they glued them in place. Smaller components like IC chips, small caps, diodes are installed by machine then it's run across hot solder pool to solder all connection points at once. That is how it used to be done from what I remember in College but may have changed with more modern precision robotic tech, etc.
How do ppl break these so early I just dont get it
Sometimes the consoles come defective.
@@noonieFonz but then why wouldn't they just return them to Microsoft with their warranty? Dont they come with free warranty for some time
@@jas_1237. Idk about the warranty but yeah I would return mine.
It’s not people it’s defective
@@jas_1237 They probably just wanted their money back
I would follow the AC voltage and see where it goes and compare that to the good power supply. You are most likely right with either a Mosfet or Power Inverter chip.