From Holden to Gryphon (The Redemption of Holden Cross)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @LuckyRider-wh1wr
    @LuckyRider-wh1wr 3 года назад +1089

    Looking at this video made me realize, the story mode of for honor is the only time in recent media I've seen, in the end the villain wins

    • @LuckyRider-wh1wr
      @LuckyRider-wh1wr 3 года назад +21

      Also congrats on 7k subs

    • @Callsign_Bear
      @Callsign_Bear 3 года назад +133

      Apollyon might have died, but in the end, she was right: They would all fight. More would die. The cycle would repeat itself

    • @MeisterSchwabbo
      @MeisterSchwabbo 3 года назад +27

      And ultron from Avengers... he also have won. Same with thanos in infinity war and baron zemo from civil war

    • @beserker559
      @beserker559 3 года назад

      Ardyn and Kefka from final fantasy also won

    • @him1517
      @him1517 3 года назад +9

      yep. The entire game is what happens after.

  • @GeistDrachen
    @GeistDrachen 3 года назад +1033

    Ironic how Astrea is trying to act more like Apollyon but Gryphon actually experiences what she went through and in the end is more like her than Astrea ever will be.

    • @MeisterSchwabbo
      @MeisterSchwabbo 3 года назад +77

      Maybe thats the plan... but i don't think Elise the story writer knows how to make a good story, with twists

    • @Wayofswords
      @Wayofswords 3 года назад +43

      @@MeisterSchwabbo the end is nieh thought Holden's character development is better than most and that cross is better man through it all

    • @mothman6380
      @mothman6380 3 года назад +29

      Well Apollyon was like Holden she was a woman of honor of creed of chivalry but her trauma as a child the raid of her home the rape murder and plunder of her friends and family shaped her she found peace could not exist in world where what she experienced was possible then it would be unexplainable barbarism and have no place in the world she found honor and chivalry and peace to be false a blanket to comfort the weak that would sit idle as the strong died for them she believed in a black and white point of view that the strong were serving the weak she then in return subjugated and punished the weak to bring out the strong Among them asters rages war on the weak she believes that all who are not wolves must die Apollyon didn’t believe that she thought all the weak pretending to be strong must die she believed they had a proper place and was trimmed those that stepped out of line she saw the world through all factions not just knightly ideals and she used that for her purpose of showing the world her truth and now Holden has traveled the world once a man of honor creed and chivalry but instead of a soul haunted and twisted into a demon by trauma he’s now a man of redemption he was a lawbringer who broke his code and now searches to uphold peace and redeem himself of the demon he let himself become he changes his armor language beard to try and find who his is he’s not Holden he’s gryphon but he doesn’t know who gryphon is he wants no recognition he wants peace and atonement the difference between between him and Apollyon is instead of fighting to bring out the strong and show the world of his truths or ideals to justify atrocities that shouldn’t be allowed in a world of peace he fights to end such atrocities so peace may come one day he seeks his redemption not an explanation Astrea fights in the visage of Apollyon for her on corruption of Apollyons ideals and her betterment she has no excuse besides her gain she’s a sheep in wolves clothing nothing more nothing less she has no conviction only the goal of war for the sake of killing the weak not to give a point or show the world a ugly truth but to kill and spread corruption she’s not a devil like Apollyon was or Holden once was she’s a infestation of rats spreading a plague for their own gain

    • @marianomaza8941
      @marianomaza8941 3 года назад +13

      Many people hate on astrea, you know, its hard to cover such a large shadow.
      Still she is a wolf herself after all she has defeted zanhu and other enemies exept for olden cross

    • @spookeg5812
      @spookeg5812 3 года назад +3

      @@marianomaza8941 exactly people are more likely to chose what came before than whats present like old heads will always say old rap was better than current rap. Apollyon left some massive shows to fill but i feel there is some bias against Astrea

  • @redlightu
    @redlightu 3 года назад +570

    Man, times like this make me wish Ubisoft expanded more on the story and characters of For Honor, instead of giving us short and vague descriptions through Events or tidbits.

    • @Kurt20051YT
      @Kurt20051YT 3 года назад +45

      Ikr, just think how cool it could've been if the story was a lot longer and if we got story expansions with dlc heroes, imagine playing Shinobi or BP in thier own story.

    • @CamoFlash7_
      @CamoFlash7_ 3 года назад +1

      @@Kurt20051YT My thoughts exactly.

    • @zereth2792
      @zereth2792 3 года назад +11

      i actually didnt like the story at first but these new characters with their origins made me fucking love it.
      the whole thing with Apollyon seemed so stupid but when this guy made a video about her and astrea she easily became one of my favorite video game villains and stories of all time

    • @For_the-Emperor
      @For_the-Emperor 2 года назад +1

      That would involve creativity which ubi is not about. They are about cutting corners and making unfinished projects but charge full price for them.

    • @zackerymathiad5075
      @zackerymathiad5075 Год назад

      As a dark souls player I dont mind it to much

  • @frederickcrow9046
    @frederickcrow9046 3 года назад +421

    With each season we see how right apollyon was.

    • @_mass_477
      @_mass_477 3 года назад +34

      The redditors... SAVAGES!!!

    • @russian_knight
      @russian_knight 3 года назад +38

      Realistically, there is no way that heathmoor could ever have true peace.

    • @ImRoosevelt
      @ImRoosevelt 3 года назад +20

      Apollyon is the true protagonist

    • @agentc7020
      @agentc7020 2 года назад +2

      Well, we only see how right she was because she worked real hard to be right.

  • @merkavamkivm3373
    @merkavamkivm3373 3 года назад +500

    "From Holden to Olden"

  • @wolfwalker4585
    @wolfwalker4585 3 года назад +334

    Simply sick.
    This made it way easier to understand gryphs/Holdens origins.
    I can imagine Apo cheering Chimera on, and maybe even Holden himself, to gut the impostor Astrea.

    • @derriquethefreak1820
      @derriquethefreak1820 3 года назад +46

      I don't think she would be cheering them on, but simply saying my true wolves will kill the sheep in wolves clothing

    • @logeyperogi1805
      @logeyperogi1805 2 года назад +8

      Apollyon’s spirit returns from beyond the veil of death and battles Astrea
      That’d be a cool event

    • @FullAdDariusBR
      @FullAdDariusBR 2 года назад +2

      @@logeyperogi1805 Indeed

  • @phoenixlord2454
    @phoenixlord2454 3 года назад +187

    Holden is the whole reason I main Lawbringer, his ideals and actions resonate with me. Watching this has merely increased my resolve.

    • @rvxnge7491
      @rvxnge7491 3 года назад +2

      Same

    • @thebaron2277
      @thebaron2277 3 года назад +4

      same. after watching this it makes me even prouder to be a lawbringer Main

    • @v9tadpole2.02
      @v9tadpole2.02 2 года назад +1

      Same two button for combo and fainted heavy is a pretty nice resolve

    • @Hehehahaaau
      @Hehehahaaau 2 года назад +1

      what if i told you........ONE OF MY MAINS IS ASTREA

    • @FullAdDariusBR
      @FullAdDariusBR 2 года назад +1

      @@Hehehahaaau Well, we will just say "GUN KAI!" to you.

  • @deusvultcunt5786
    @deusvultcunt5786 3 года назад +79

    I know why he was surprised by her sparing the viking but him saying “including davis” will never not make me shout out “NO NOT FUCKING DAVIS!!”

  • @shopdu9116
    @shopdu9116 2 года назад +49

    I actually really liked gryphon. Aside from the fact that he was broken at launch, I liked how he went on this journey and made friends and allies from all factions and possibly more. I love how he came back more like Apollyon then Astrea ever will be. How the only thing he wanted was to protect Ashfeld but grew a more open mind and decided to explore the other cultures.

  • @Ninjorsta
    @Ninjorsta 3 года назад +139

    Gryphon is more apollyon than Astrea will ever be

    • @biffdakid
      @biffdakid 3 года назад +21

      Astrea: cries in war mommy
      Holden: laughs in gryphon

  • @rogue9898
    @rogue9898 3 года назад +85

    “Are we the baddies?”

  • @Nekomon.
    @Nekomon. 3 года назад +36

    3:14 THIS! The for honor lore may sometimes have it's flaws in writing's but him originally thinking such a close minded point of view to becoming basically mr worldwide and incorporating many other cultures/factions into his repertoire of skills and language. I like this parallel cause it shows his growth as a character and made him interesting, even if he is annoying to play against in game.

  • @bluven508blaze3
    @bluven508blaze3 3 года назад +52

    Now this....is what I wanted to know about Holden Cross and how he became the Gryphon

  • @morte2504
    @morte2504 3 года назад +110

    I like to think Apollyon wanted to teach Heathmoor to fight people like Astrea.

    • @derriquethefreak1820
      @derriquethefreak1820 3 года назад +25

      Absolutely, astrea might not be weak physically, but she is by far one of the weakest characters mentally in the story. She didn't want 2 sides fighting,she wanted the factions to fight each other.

    • @ATLONGLASTASAP
      @ATLONGLASTASAP Год назад +1

      yeah an emo wannabe isnt a flex at all

  • @TheAvgCrusader
    @TheAvgCrusader 3 года назад +130

    Holy Jesus - Amazing video Raven! I really hope this gains the traction that the Apollyon vs Astrea video did. It's a fantastic summary of Holden Cross and his continuing story as Olden Cru- I mean Monke- I mean... Gryphon... -that I still find so fascinating.

    • @carmid7199
      @carmid7199 3 года назад +3

      What did you call me? Cause I think I heard monke

    • @c4ho0t53
      @c4ho0t53 2 года назад

      @@carmid7199 lol

    • @-M_-
      @-M_- 2 года назад

      @@carmid7199 you are now my man, you were cool, but now you want banana

  • @martintemplar3620
    @martintemplar3620 3 года назад +38

    I just want you to admit, WHAT. YOU. ARE... my... wolves

  • @WinterKlyfox
    @WinterKlyfox 3 года назад +75

    Though I don't like Gryphon. You have to admit the idea for holden isn't a bad one.

    • @williamvalorious4403
      @williamvalorious4403 3 года назад +14

      Holden as a character himself is neat, the actual gameplay of said class is well question in terms of balance

    • @FullAdDariusBR
      @FullAdDariusBR 2 года назад

      @@williamvalorious4403 He is far from strong.

    • @confusedravioli2556
      @confusedravioli2556 2 года назад

      @@FullAdDariusBR Now? Balanced. On release? Busted. Always remember to check when a comment was posted.

    • @FullAdDariusBR
      @FullAdDariusBR 2 года назад +1

      @@confusedravioli2556 Gryphon never was busted, his shove was ass weak and his moveset was decent, but far from OP, the only OP stuffs was the delayed dodge attack (but since back then his block recovery was dumb huge, meaning he cannot block hyper armored heavies), feat 2 AOE and heal and feat 3 speed, damage, heal and AOE. His shove was "strong" because of the Option select input, as opener the shove was bad.
      Gryphon need buffs, he cannot compete against the actual characters, he is too far behind.

  • @powerpope9213
    @powerpope9213 3 года назад +62

    Ok, i just gotta say this:
    I've searched for a long time now on the internet for a good quality yt channel with For Honor content and here we are. I must say raven, you are doing your job very nicely. I love this channel (even if i don`t know stuff about Warhammer 40k). I espacilly love those story vids where you in-depth describe For Honor characters, and i hope there are more to come. Anyways, keep up the good work and see ya in another video!

  • @hanoli7933
    @hanoli7933 3 года назад +45

    "ugh fine... I guess you are my little wolf, come here"
    Thats all i can think of now that i finished the story mode

  • @juanpablocota9083
    @juanpablocota9083 3 года назад +46

    This video made me like more the character of gryphon

  • @rockwoodzapper
    @rockwoodzapper 2 года назад +9

    Something I feel needs to be addressed is how much of an insult Astrea's entire person is to Holden. She idolizes, glorifies and mimicks Apollyon as an outside observer, not just in person but ideology. Apollyon still had honor of a sort, and the weak who were willing to accept that they were weak would be protected under her. Astrea simply kills, indiscriminately.
    Seeing this sick, twisted mockery of Apollyon - I couldn't imagine it doing anything other than pissing Holden off. And now he has the opportunity to do what he should have done against the real Apollyon.

  • @raw_ritz24
    @raw_ritz24 3 года назад +57

    Yo this was great, I would like one about Daubeny but feel like there’s not enough information

    • @halfcarnage6259
      @halfcarnage6259 3 года назад +6

      Mabey thru the comming seasons since hes now Chimeras leader

    • @raw_ritz24
      @raw_ritz24 3 года назад +1

      @@halfcarnage6259 then I shall wait

    • @-M_-
      @-M_- 2 года назад

      He made recently a video about him

  • @deenajmeri9440
    @deenajmeri9440 3 года назад +15

    This entire video about monkey brain is very fascinating, good stuff.

  • @Wiseonebk
    @Wiseonebk Год назад +12

    If we weren't so focused on multiplayer issues, we don't realize the gem of a game we have.

  • @warlockengineer
    @warlockengineer Год назад +6

    For honor deserves a fleshed out open world rpg

    • @anchorsaway1gaming
      @anchorsaway1gaming Месяц назад +1

      BRO, that is what I thought about this game could have so much potential in doing things like that.

  • @TheAdvocate7274
    @TheAdvocate7274 3 года назад +10

    Well done, you perfectly explain Apollyon's and Holden's philosophy. The lore behind For Honor is amazing.

  • @diegopasha5607
    @diegopasha5607 3 года назад +13

    Holden Cross.... The man who seek a path to move forward

  • @poyrazacar183
    @poyrazacar183 3 года назад +23

    Great work as always Raven! But I'm still curious about The Warden. I know he disappeared but I want him to come back and save everyone from Astrea.... That would be a good ending for him.

    • @derriquethefreak1820
      @derriquethefreak1820 3 года назад +4

      He just comes in and cuts off astreas hand right when she is about to gut holden like a fish.

    • @apollyon3331
      @apollyon3331 3 года назад

      One day I want to make a film about for honor. And if I ever even get close I want to feature a part in the film where Holden cross or gryphon is on astreas doorstep. It's a reimagining of apollyon waiting for Holden once again, gryphon is ready and a bit cocky. He thinks he will wipe out what's left of horkos how he wiped out almost all the blackstones. But the twist isn't that the warden came back the save gryphon that's to predictable. I want them to reveal at some time in the fight that the warden died long ago while he/she was on there soul search. Some horkos enforcers and astrea jumped him and tried to convert him but he stood steadfast and died fighting. Any hope gryphon had of wardens return is shattered leaving him emotionally open and unguarded alowing astrea to strike back. I'm obsessed with this crap.

    • @MeisterSchwabbo
      @MeisterSchwabbo 2 года назад

      @@apollyon3331 i fully agree, it sounds cringe but a friend of me loves to roleplay in fh and i play with him.

    • @apollyon3331
      @apollyon3331 2 года назад

      @@MeisterSchwabbo naw it's awesome bro. The lore in this game is actually quite interesting once enough research is put in.

    • @MeisterSchwabbo
      @MeisterSchwabbo 2 года назад

      @@apollyon3331 i agree, it is one of the last games where the lore actually interests me, i don't like Lord ramiel but the rest is great

  • @MemesArentDead
    @MemesArentDead 3 года назад +7

    For Honor deserves more credit than it gets
    The story and it’s meaning
    The characters
    The end goal
    Marvelous

  • @OdenKnight
    @OdenKnight Месяц назад

    Thanks for this analysis of Cross/Gryphon. This hit home in many ways.

  • @rocco1626
    @rocco1626 3 года назад +13

    For law bringer I’m still waiting for his arm armour I like the shoulders. I believe shoalin thought him most because Monke

  • @AshenRean
    @AshenRean 2 года назад +1

    These videos make me wish instead of little events we got a new story chapter each season which expands on stuff. I never realized how deep the for honor story was till watching these videos

  • @mochathought
    @mochathought 3 года назад +21

    Know if only his gameplay represented this

    • @Silly_The_Killer
      @Silly_The_Killer 3 года назад +18

      maybe he is monke to the eye of many
      but in our hurts he will stay holden cross

  • @thewhitewolf7909
    @thewhitewolf7909 3 года назад +4

    My favorite channel I have ever come a cross

  • @dirtyd4cdeeds935
    @dirtyd4cdeeds935 3 года назад +4

    It’s crazy how nobody cares for the story and complain about his gameplay. It’s mind boggling.

    • @thatgoodolpisscrab
      @thatgoodolpisscrab 2 года назад

      it's a multiplayer game and he was broken from release, it's mind boggling how good lore can make u forget he's a broken character.

    • @dirtyd4cdeeds935
      @dirtyd4cdeeds935 2 года назад

      @@thatgoodolpisscrab 1. He’s not that bad anymore so people are bitching about nothing
      2. Ok it’s a multiplayer game. So? What does that have to do with a Lore video about the character. Talking about his story, not his gameplay.
      It’s mind boggling how some people can’t differentiate

    • @thatgoodolpisscrab
      @thatgoodolpisscrab 2 года назад

      @@dirtyd4cdeeds935 he's still bad man, he's definitely top 3 broken heros, and it's a multiplayer game so it's ya know smart to talk abt the game play not the fancy made up story to a fake character

  • @Max2ds
    @Max2ds 3 года назад +5

    Lore: A tragic warrior, now disillusioned to his core values. Forced to reshape himself.
    Gameplay: “Gryphon main, monkey brain”

  • @davidellis6656
    @davidellis6656 3 года назад +4

    some pretty deep lore in the background of multiplayer heavy game and honest i love it.

  • @tannerfinney8211
    @tannerfinney8211 2 года назад +7

    I have to say, although the dialogue was bad and some
    Of the cutscenes being a bit janky -
    This was a very interesting and new take on story telling for Ubisoft

  • @MrJohnthegamerHD
    @MrJohnthegamerHD 2 года назад

    Man, these videos make Ubisoft's game look better than it actually is. That's a sub from me, on behalf of how well you tell the lore of the game.

  • @tekenaamamina273
    @tekenaamamina273 11 месяцев назад

    This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of videos

  • @turtleusa353
    @turtleusa353 Год назад +2

    you make the lore actually sound cool and interesting, something ubisoft has never done at least in my opinion

  • @comrademoshi1028
    @comrademoshi1028 2 года назад +2

    with all this lore in for honor they should make a movie or a tv series/animation…. i’m sure everyone would appreciate it

  • @pedromsampaio647
    @pedromsampaio647 3 года назад +16

    "he does not belive in killing the weak"
    Holden killing the most fragile thing in the game: 1:36

  • @FullAdDariusBR
    @FullAdDariusBR 2 года назад +1

    I'm main Holden Cross, Lawbringer and Gryphon with pride.
    My favorite and the best character from For Honor.

  • @zutsume5375
    @zutsume5375 3 года назад +4

    I love Gryphon's lore and gameplay (Don't start arguing about how i'm a low human being because you don't like Gryphon's gameplay, i'm not here for that), and this video was absolutely amazing, you might say i'm taking this a bit too seriously, but this is the shit that hyped me when i saw the trailer for the first time. Love the character, hands down my favorite hero lore wise. Great vid anyway !

    • @cujo8212
      @cujo8212 3 года назад

      Yk you're a piece of shit for playing gryphon cuz u had to give a disclaimer 😂😂😂

    • @zutsume5375
      @zutsume5375 2 года назад

      @@cujo8212 You had to point that out... I don't feel like a piece of shit and Gryphon doesn't make me one, but fair point i guess

    • @cujo8212
      @cujo8212 2 года назад

      @@zutsume5375 It was just jokes brother

    • @zutsume5375
      @zutsume5375 2 года назад

      @@cujo8212 That's why i said that it's a fair point and that you had to point my disclaimer out x)

  • @Baldeagle-tw2nv
    @Baldeagle-tw2nv 2 года назад +2

    Apollyon's philosophy was essentially to create a forced deterrence between all three factions after prolonged fighting. If all three factions had stayed in their peak with small scale skirmishes and engagements, Astrea and her factions would've never come into power. All three armies would've responded quickly with battle hardened warriors and troops and crushed her before anything could've happened. Sometimes being in a perpetual state of warfare on a small scale is the best way to maintain peace, because your forces are already experienced in combat and can quickly react to any threat.

  • @the_smittuation
    @the_smittuation 3 года назад +1

    This is the story I’ve been waiting for raven! Thank you!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @khoseftadros2775
    @khoseftadros2775 3 года назад +66

    So I'm curious, what happened to the lord Warden, did he/she just disappear or die? that'd be a shame tbh

    • @aminbarray8634
      @aminbarray8634 3 года назад +15

      They went on a soul search according to the previous writer.

    • @gabrielwilson7050
      @gabrielwilson7050 3 года назад +17

      Lore Orders say they disappeared. Nobody in lore knows where they went.

    • @khoseftadros2775
      @khoseftadros2775 3 года назад +29

      @@gabrielwilson7050 Well I want my warden back dammit, she's (since I played with female) the only one where we saw a full character arc out of in the entire story on screen.

    • @gabrielwilson7050
      @gabrielwilson7050 3 года назад +8

      @@khoseftadros2775 Dude for real! I miss them so...

    • @tomthestone1470
      @tomthestone1470 3 года назад +2

      @@khoseftadros2775 Never gonna happen. Too broad in terms of appearance, not to mention the lack of individual design.

  • @sircarlos3707
    @sircarlos3707 3 года назад +3

    12:26 Beautiful quote

  • @mrhammer2711
    @mrhammer2711 3 года назад

    Thanks to you dude I now know the multiplayer plot cause I've been playing for 2 years and still didn't know what was happening. thanks dude and keep up the good work and love your for honor content really helps

  • @darkwolf6879
    @darkwolf6879 3 года назад +8

    So we play as holdan again as gryphon?! O.o

  • @jaguarwarrior7627
    @jaguarwarrior7627 3 года назад +15

    From lion to monke, also good video

    • @baconmangaming7002
      @baconmangaming7002 3 года назад +3

      This proves that humanity is not ready return to Monke

  • @choosinkien268
    @choosinkien268 3 года назад +11

    I used to thnk the lore of gryphon was stupid and also wm but now that ive watched this video i have finnally appreciate that the lore hasnt changed at all. Although i still dont get how holden is still alive now but hey meme characters dont die i guess

    • @choosinkien268
      @choosinkien268 3 года назад +1

      Also i now hate Wm even more cuz she is disrespecting or misunderstandong Appolyon's moral by twisting it to her own needs

  • @fabianwafler9869
    @fabianwafler9869 3 года назад +3

    Did you realize that the viking who wasn’t executed by Holden is Ragnar from the viking Story?

    • @fabianwafler9869
      @fabianwafler9869 3 года назад +2

      And Ragnar did what appollyon wanted the vikings to do, to fight, to weep out the weak and destroy the freedom in valkenheim.

    • @RavenKnightYT
      @RavenKnightYT  3 года назад +1

      Yes. I remember that.

    • @fabianwafler9869
      @fabianwafler9869 3 года назад +1

      @@RavenKnightYT I love these details.

  • @abdullahwira9773
    @abdullahwira9773 3 года назад +1

    maann... your vids is really good.... keep up man

  • @doccock2115
    @doccock2115 3 года назад +9

    I still dont get why we cant have those lion shoulder plates for the multiplayer.

    • @topc5091
      @topc5091 3 года назад +1

      You can but you need to buy the gryphon bundle

    • @doccock2115
      @doccock2115 3 года назад +2

      @@topc5091 but fit lb

    • @booooooosh9511
      @booooooosh9511 3 года назад +3

      Ubi are tards there's your answer, if they weren't we'd have accurate armour for the vast majority of characters and those lion shoulder plates

  • @TheScriptor6753
    @TheScriptor6753 3 года назад +1

    Congrats Raven for reaching 7k

  • @tekenaamamina273
    @tekenaamamina273 11 месяцев назад

    This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of video

  • @McDanklestank
    @McDanklestank 2 года назад +1

    I just noticed that was Ragnar that Apollyon spared only for him to be killed by the Player's Raider after refusing to share food and resources amongst the other clsns and work with them rather than against them.

    • @miimiibeschde4818
      @miimiibeschde4818 Год назад

      *Share a small Box of bread and vegetables and three barrels of potatoes

  • @zero_assistance4326
    @zero_assistance4326 3 года назад +1

    Man after reading someone's comment I really wanna play through vortigors story.

  • @papabear4941
    @papabear4941 3 года назад +1

    Hey man. Love the content. Glad to see there is someone who’s invested in the lore like me. I was just wondering (if at all possible) you would do a video like this for ayu and stigandr. From my pov, during the secret meet-up 8 years after Apollyon’s death, judging by the vibes of the final moments of the cutscene, assassins who were loyal to Apollyon’s ideas were to kill all three. It’s obvious that Holden survived the attempt(s), but I just kept wondering what happened to the empress and the jarl. Perhaps during year 5 they’ll bring back one of them like they did Holden last year.

  • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
    @pyrrhusofepirus8491 3 года назад +3

    Rip Davis

  • @ghostlyswat12
    @ghostlyswat12 3 года назад +3

    Man for honor devs should hire you to tell us the lore 😅

  • @logeyperogi1805
    @logeyperogi1805 2 года назад +1

    Holden doesn’t want peace, but he also doesn’t want war
    So, how can you have peace and strength? You can’t
    It’s quite upsetting, but also just how the world works, only those strong enough to survive will be able to, but the difference between Gryphon and Astrea is that Astrea thinks she needs to get rid of the weak, she needs to remove them all so that only the strongest thrive, but Gryphon understands that there’s strength in everyone, and that’s what the Order of Chimera uses
    Whereas Astrea extinguishes the dying flames of the people she hates, Gryphon fuels the flames, he brings out their strength, so that in the end they realize who they are, and what they stand for
    Holden didn’t just DECIDE to become Gryphon, he needed to grow, to learn, to become stronger, and he wants everyone else, those who Astrea would kill just for the hell of it, he wants those people to fight, to prove that they’re not just some weak creatures, that they’re strong and all they needed was PROPER motivation to draw out that strength
    The Order of Chimera uses a deer as their symbol, and Horkos uses a wolf
    What do wolves do? When they hunt, they go after the weakest in the herd, but what would happen if that supposedly weak deer drew out its inner strength? What if that deer fought back? They’d show their strength
    THIS is what Gryphon wants, he wants his herd to draw out their true strength so that if a bloodthirsty wolf comes to prove their strength, they don’t walk away easily
    Chimera or Horkos?
    I’m Chimera, I believe that true strength isn’t something you just have, TRUE strength must be built upon, and drawn out with proper motivation
    Gryphon’s herd of deer, and Astrea’s pack of wolves, THIS is the war, and Apollyon would cheer on Gryphon, because not only did Gryphon use her ideals and follow them, but he’d also use them for the people, he used her ideals to rally people and remove a tyrant, and Apollyon would definitely be proud

  • @meowmeowloverr
    @meowmeowloverr 3 года назад

    Great vid raven keep up the great work and wish you well

  • @theshadow5200
    @theshadow5200 2 года назад +1

    I feel like I know why I like Holden/gryphon cause after he left Apollyon and became a mercenary fighting with other faction leaving there moves there culture and how they work me I’ve been to three different schools knew how they work the code there rights and wrongs and so I learned more just like gryphon

  • @roogoculus2885
    @roogoculus2885 2 года назад +1

    He went from shob to dodge heavy
    Fucking character development

  • @Toatekaha
    @Toatekaha 3 года назад

    Congrats on 7k my man 👍🏾👏🏾

  • @Mario-ll4sb
    @Mario-ll4sb 3 года назад +4

    From Lion to Monkey how interesting of an outcome.

    • @xeox4280
      @xeox4280 2 года назад

      Get good

    • @Mario-ll4sb
      @Mario-ll4sb 2 года назад

      @@xeox4280 ah how smart of you let me get this straight you arent good if you spam dodge havies with your gryphon aka monkey. If you play like that u kind of shouldnt pkay the game

    • @xeox4280
      @xeox4280 2 года назад

      @@Mario-ll4sb you can block them i think. Or parry them. Its not that hard, and i dont spam anything.

    • @Mario-ll4sb
      @Mario-ll4sb 2 года назад

      @@xeox4280 Whatever but your argument cant be just get good. U can go with you get good to hell for all i care. Yes its true u can parry them but with input delay its harder thant oh i can press heavy button to parry nope you cant cause half the time parries arent read

  • @thelouster5815
    @thelouster5815 3 года назад +1

    I have to commend you for making For Honor's atrocious writing sound good. That takes some serious skill!

  • @Hadras7094
    @Hadras7094 3 года назад

    I was looking forward to this

  • @hirotheog8467
    @hirotheog8467 3 года назад

    Amazing video, great job

  • @Jye-cf4oh
    @Jye-cf4oh 6 месяцев назад

    RIP Davis you will be miss.

  • @halbarand2806
    @halbarand2806 2 года назад

    So at the beginning of the video since I didn’t click on it, shows the captions and the way daubeny was spelt was funny

  • @Fungtusk
    @Fungtusk 3 года назад +2

    Remember when people said the campaign in this game was 'rushed'

  • @dag_will2615
    @dag_will2615 2 года назад +2

    The Horkos/Chimera thing must be accidentally smart, there's absolutely zero wat they meant for the pieces to line up like this

  • @zombieboss5178
    @zombieboss5178 3 года назад +4

    What happened to the main Warden of the story though? (just wondering because I've heard nothing about it)

    • @wl4316
      @wl4316 3 года назад +1

      went missing, no one knows where he is.

    • @ATLONGLASTASAP
      @ATLONGLASTASAP Год назад +1

      season pass 172
      “that guy”

  • @GameJack
    @GameJack 3 года назад

    I use to think Holden’s journey to Gryphon was a bit stupid and nonsensical but this video has made me really reconsider it and Holden as a character in general. Great work!
    That said, there is still something about his story that doesn’t quite sit with me and I can’t pinpoint what it is exactly. Might be because I think they went a bit too far with his literal journey across the world, or that the Lord Warden was somehow the ONLY person who took his betrayal of Apollyon seriously (and then straight-up disappeared out of nowhere when Holden would have needed his support - what a guy), or it might just be some reinforcement of the fact that the original factions seemingly mean squat to the writers now, which is saddening.
    Although that might just all be a byproduct of my hate for the current story and what it introduced and retconned. I do not like it, at all. That being said, I’ll stick with this game until it dies (or pisses me off too much).

  • @bendybug
    @bendybug 3 года назад +1

    Are any other heroes like holden? Like the same character but with a different name.

  • @The_Shadow80
    @The_Shadow80 Год назад +1

    The only thing that Apollyon wanted to do is to prepare everyone if there was another caticlisim
    Even if it meant to kill the weak and bring in the strong
    EVEN IF IT MEANT WAR

  • @Etheral_Fire
    @Etheral_Fire 3 месяца назад

    Bruh, you making me wanna fight a war that doesn't exist.

  • @thaipankatima658
    @thaipankatima658 Год назад

    I trust Daubeny far more than i would trust Holden Cross.
    Daubeny might've been a coward, but at least he was honest about it.
    Holden Cross on the other hand, has little loyalty to anyone but his own interests.
    He betrayed the Iron Legion along with his master when it suited him.
    Then he betrayed the Black Stone Legion when their goals no longer aligned.
    And he would turn against the Lord Warden when the time comes.
    The man is a traitor twice over, no matter what anyone says.
    The word trust, loyalty, honor, are meaningless coming from his mouth.

  • @Jahim-zu6wk
    @Jahim-zu6wk 3 года назад

    That classic for honor soundtrack though

    • @ATLONGLASTASAP
      @ATLONGLASTASAP Год назад

      everyone gangsta till they start speaking enchantment table

  • @bejeko923
    @bejeko923 2 года назад

    "What ?? Fight you ?? That's not a trial, that an execution..."

  • @chupchupman5859
    @chupchupman5859 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @russianoftheinternet8907
    @russianoftheinternet8907 2 года назад

    for whatever god forsaken reason I can just see Apollyon as a ghost haunting gryphons nightmares, of her just telling him to go slaughter Astrea.

  • @burgermuncher8985
    @burgermuncher8985 3 года назад +1

    From armoured lion to monke

  • @vezzy7301
    @vezzy7301 3 года назад +1

    It’s kinda weird he went from my favourite character to the biggest monke brain character

  • @cuppedcup5048
    @cuppedcup5048 3 года назад

    This was so good

  • @seanslaysean7097
    @seanslaysean7097 2 года назад

    Apollyon was right about war as a constant, but not why people fight; there will always be wolves, but those wolves contend with shepherds now

  • @shontelearly3202
    @shontelearly3202 2 года назад

    Didn’t know law bringer and griffin were the same person

  • @theslayer1652
    @theslayer1652 2 года назад

    I just realized the guy she spared is Ragnar the guy raider kills

  • @mr.0474
    @mr.0474 Год назад

    Damn for honor has a good story

  • @leoestellar5232
    @leoestellar5232 2 года назад

    We desperately need an update on the story mode

  • @SolarCasanova
    @SolarCasanova Год назад

    He knows what he is.. apollyon2.0

  • @bobjoe4414
    @bobjoe4414 2 года назад

    Hey what’s the awesome calm music you used towards the end of the video? I love the sound of it

  • @user-gu4pr9il5s
    @user-gu4pr9il5s Год назад +1

    Ah for honor, a game so rich with lore yet the opportunity is being buried with unwanted executions and paint schemes

  • @loudcrab1663
    @loudcrab1663 Год назад

    Why couldn’t we have just had a story about the knight? They are by far the most interesting faction of the 3.

  • @rijialodniam8249
    @rijialodniam8249 3 года назад +2

    jokes aside...i thought thumbnail was Harambe

  • @fnafplushiespro8276
    @fnafplushiespro8276 2 года назад

    I was like gryphon is kind of toxic but now this video makes me think gryphon is actually good