Id probably buff Flareon by giving it Defiant...or a new ability that increases their attack every time they take fire or burn damage, that way, flame orb still works without beings worse Ursaluna.
@@kidclover6192 think flareon should get reckless and add supercell slam and wild charge to it movepool also giving it close combat can fit in to it nature
This right here. I'm someone who has a great time with plenty of obscure and unpopular competitive pokemon who at least have weirdly good coverage, but no amount of love for the eevee gang can make up for their lack of usability. Over the years, I've only been able to make sylveon work, a stalling leafeon, and a pretty good tera umbreon. All only on the team out of nepotism (I love them sm)
thats so true. i feel like the eeveelutions should be some of the pokemon with more coverage due to the fact that eevee can evolve into 8 different types, but nope, most of them have very little coverage and even then the moves aren't that great.
@nnik345 yhhh for a pokemon whose whole gimmick is unstable genes, i feel like they should have stupid wide and varied movesets. Let flareon have water moves, and vaporeon fire moves etc😂
For special coverage, Eevee should be able to learn each one of fire, grass, water, electric, dark and ice moves. For physical coverage, Eevee should have access to each one of fire, water, electric, ice, psychic, ice and fairy moves
Other than the extreme evoboost, I think the funniest single way to buff eeveelutions is to let Eevee have a unique ability that buffs Eeveelutions, like maybe: "Evolution Chain" - When an ally pokemon that evolves from eevee enters the battle, boost their highest stat by a stage, and boost the user with the same stat. Maybe volt switch or eject button with your eeveelution to get more cycles? Will you make an eeveelution team? Do something silly with baton pass? Keep it out for support? Or maybe you get to use a Let's Go move as an attacker while it is unevolved.
instead of Extreme Evoboost we could get just Evoboost. a non Z-move that Eevee and the eeveelutions get that boost all their stats by 1 stage. It's the No Retreat attack but without being locked in battle.
I’m a bit sad that iron tail got removed for umbreon. Iron tail gives umbra a great steel type coverage against fairy types but removed when gen 9 hits.
idea on a good steel move to give Vaporeon that thematically makes sense is Mirror Shot not as powerful but it’s a special move and water can reflect like a mirror (edit) oh misread this so here’s a Umbreon Suggestion too Flash Canon say it’s moon light
@Grimsly3736 I think they need to really get more creative with their properties as a whole, rather than just keep them to elemental energy; - Vaporeon is liquifiable, so perhaps there are a few drippy poison moves or glossy steel moves it can learn? - Espeon is covered in fine, velvet like hair, perhaps it can have some more hair related moves, including ones about grooming the fur? And power gem, for having a Bindi gem - Jolteon learns pin missile exclusively because it is spiky. Glaceon can literally freeze it's fur into tiny barbs, give it pin missile, and more spiky moves - Umbreon has toxic rings. Give it some poisonous or vengeful style moves, idk destiny bond? The rings also glow, so it should be able to get moves around that - Sylveon has special eyes, maybe it can have some psychic or bug powers around being able to lock onto things - Flareon. Idk, it deserves to be able to do something cool, how about several versatile fire moves that compliment it's stats at least?? - Leafeon, idk I like it. I think a water move or two would be interesting tbh, but I do have a water tera focused set for it
@lilpetz500 Vaporeon whole thing in the anime was “acid armor makes it completely blend in with the water” so give more acid moves water does erode Espeon getting power gem is a great suggestion I’d also say heat wave since it’s a Daytime Evolution Jolteon I’d actually give some fighting moves it getting double kick was really notable in gen 1 Glaceon I’d give Is like a mountain climber design so I’d say some rock and ground moves could fit And finally Sylveon can get some bug moves like Silver Wind hell even pollen puff
I like a lot of these buffs! My thoughts on Flareon and Leafeon. Flareon - New Ability: Guts -> Defiant. New Moves: Lash Out, Extreme Speed, High Horsepower / Headlong Rush. While I'm not going to BUFF stats, per se, I would like to swap the SpA stat for the Def stat, to make Flareon a little bulkier. Leafeon - New Ability: Leaf Guard -> Super Luck. New Moves: (in addition to yours) Focus Energy, Victory Dance, Horn Leech, Ice Spinner, Body Press, Lash Out.
@@haydeniskander5306 I wanna know where tf is leafeon horns also, espeed on a pkm with no lore, off okay, and I be you also didn’t know headlong rush is a fist type move so I don’t see how flareon gonna use that, lash out make since. Before you just tryna make a pokemon “better” think about lore and design about the pokemon (sorry if this sound a little rude, lol)
@@Mio-Dawnaphin Yes, that was worded in a bit of a patronizing way. To address the substance of your comment, however, I'm not too concerned about the design and lore of most pokémon, and I doubt Game Freak is as consistently concerned about that as one would think. Regarding Headlong Rush: I actually aware that it is a punching move. Great Tusk and Torterra don't have fists, but they learn Headlong Rush. Besides, Pokémon get moves that they "shouldn't" all the time. Regarding Extreme Speed: the Eeveelutions all have Quick Attack, and I see Extreme Speed as a better version of Quick Attack. Several not-that-fast Pokémon get Extreme Speed (such as Lucario and Dragonite). Besides, Flareon's been so adorable and so terrible for so long that it kind of deserves some "cheating" moves haha
@@haydeniskander5306 the reasons they have espeed because the lore state they can move as those speed, game freak don’t Willy nilly give espeed to anything. And a slow the reason why Tusk and Torterra get headlong, as it state on the move dex, they use their massive body for the attack instead of their fist and flareon is super small and don’t weigh anything like Tusk or Torterra. I see what you thinking but a better abi for flareon is more of reckless than defiant, like I said you and some valid points and flareon should have wild charge and it should get cc instead of just having superpower. And if any eeveelution that can get espeed it would be Jolteon over Flareon. Also another thing a Grass type that get it power but the sun but have ice spinner? One. Leafeon should have cutting moves. 2 leafeon alr gave a good abi in chlorophyll. Just need a better coverage move that not x scizor so it don’t get walked by steel types
@@Mio-Dawnaphin Fair enough on Close Combat over Headlong Rush for Flareon. As for how it gets Extreme Speed, I would grant the move to Eevee (Eevee is privileged, after all). We can agree to disagree on that, because while I concede the lore argument on Dragonite, I'm not really finding anything about Lucaro. What I think we can both agree on is that Flareon should ABSOLUTELY have Play Rough. I'd even go so far as to say Eevee should have it. Also, I think Flareon's Def and SpA should be swapped, to at least make it bulkier. Regarding Leafeon, Ice Spinner doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me. Meowscarada and Tsareena both get Triple Axel, which (if I'm not mistaken) is an advanced spinning maneuver in figure skating. That being said, I get where you're coming from with Leafeon being associated with the sun.
@@haydeniskander5306 yeah ALL eeveelutions should have play rough, also if leafeon even get ice spinning (bro don’t have a flexible body like Meowscarada and Tsar) it won’t even help it that much cuz it steep get walled by any steel type. Also you tryna make a thing about quick attack = espeed, well no, quick attack is attacking fast, espeed is attacking hyper fast. And gamefreak don’t give out espeed to anything for no reason. reason why Lucario have it it’s due to it’s mad lore. Dragonite, literally fly as hyper speed. Deoxys, Rayquaza moving through space Willy nilly. Even if Lucario don’t have a very valid reason of learning espeed they did have it on purpose and there was most likely a reason that it even have it, like even pikachu had it for quite some time. None of the eeveelutions should have espeed but Jolteon, none of them have lore relevance and saying “ Flaireon can get espeed buz of quick attack” you basically saying all the 500 mons that have quick attack should have espeed too smh
There's 2 buffs I'll give them. 1 is to give all of them an attack type changing ability that matches their type. Pixelate for Sylveon, refrigerate for glaceon, galvanised for jolteon, and so on. This would turn the normal type moves into stab moves and give them better stab options. Most mons have 3 abilities to choose from 2 regular abilities and 1 hidden ability, giving them this ability, and 2 others to choose from would be a good buff. The 2nd is a better move pool as that is their biggest weakness, the lack of options of moves to use.
Mio-Dawnaphin and it helps against ground types how?besides only jolteon did not get alluring voice every single eeveelution did Like people always say game freak is biased for Gen 1 then why did Gen 1 eeveelutions hardly get anything new Heck I don't even want ground coverage for jolteon give it spikes and toxic spikes it's literally covered in spikes(it might still be bad in vgc but then it might actually be useful in battle stadium singles and smogon)
Eevee: Follow Me and that Adaptability carries another ability when evolved. Vaporeon: Storm Drain or Swift Swim Jolteon: Lightning Rod or Motor Drive Flareon: Thermal Exchange or Fur Coat Espeon: Sheer Force or Magic Guard Umbreon: Shadow Tag or Stamina Leafeon: Sharpness or Unburden; and boosting Leaf Guard to also prevent stat drops Glaceon: Slush Rush Sylveon: Friend Guard or a renamed Punk Rock
For Flareon, I’d just give it extreme speed and switch flash fire to one or inner focus, defiant, or reckless. Also give it sizzily slide. This would mean it can hit hard with a guts extreme killer set, especially if it gets an SD off (I think it has SD? If it doesn’t give it to it). I think inner focus and defiant are kinda boring, but Reckless is nice for flare blitz spam and potentially wild charge as an option that you can add to its move pool. That way Flareon can be a scary trick room sweeper, but it should have enough speed to function in tailwind as well. I think there are better options than just making Flareon special although I see where you’re coming from. Other than that, I love all of your choices great video!
Giving Eevee and Evoboost move would be kinda OP... Because that means all of its evolutions would get it as well. I suppose a fair way to implement it would be for it to _only_ work when used by Eevee. Like No Retreat except the drawback is only one Pokemon can use it instead of not being able to switch out.
No... You CAN'T just mess up Flareon's entire design like that... If you're going to buff them, do it in-line with its design philosophy. Flareon's biggest issue is its move pool. If it can't compete with Incineroar and similar fire type physical attackers, you need to give it something that they don't have, NOT just switch its entire stat spread. Its even worse changing Sizzly Slide to Sp. Atk too, because that doesn't even make thematic sense!
I've always been a huge fan of Flareon, And have always wanted to see these changes to it's learn set 25- Fire Spin -> Will-O Wisp 29- Scary Face -> Smoke Screen 33- Smog -> Poison Fang 37- Lava Plume -> Flame Wheel 41- Last Resort -> Double Edge TM- Wild Charge
Also, buffing Eevee to partner level stats would require adjusting all the evolutions up in multiple stats, as partner eevee's worst stat (65) is is higher than an Eeveelution's worst stat (60), and they'd all need to have better HP than the base form, (now 65) seeing as they're more than twice the size. Current spread (no order) 65 (HP min), 60, 65, 95, 110, 130 (total 525) New spread: 75 (HP min), 65, 70, 95, 110, 130 (total 545) or 75, 60, 75, 95, 110, 130 (might be fun to have all of them lose something on an Eevee since they're supposed to be genetically unstable.)
Eevee doesn't learn any non-normal moves by level, but if there's one it should, it's Play Rough. Won't do a whole lot for most of its evolutions, but the two with Physical Attack are both resisted by Dragon.
The thing is getting rid of magic bounce hurts singles espeon so so much. Keep magic bounce, but replace synchronize with dazzling. Then it can threaten both
Scorching Sands is a Ground move. Vaporeon also does not have 130 base SPA. Making so many ridiculous buffs that are completely implausible really casts doubt on your qualifications to make such recommendations.
I think it would be cool if every eeveelution got access to the weather/terrain abilities. It would give a lot more variety to some of those weather/terrain teams than some of the same few mons
I think espeon should have sheer force instead of synchronize, so it would be able to power up psychic, alluring voice and shadow ball, and maybe they could give him flamethrower to hit steel types
They need give Eevee back it’s Let’s Go moves and let the Eeveelutions learn them. Could you imagine Leafeon with Ice, Bug, and Steel type coverage with Sizzly Slide (A 60 based power, 100% accurate, physical Fire type attack that always burns), or Sylveon being the ultimate cleric Pokemon with Sparkly Swirl (A 120 based power, 85% accurate, special Fairy type attack that heals the status conditions of every Pokemon in your party (Including ones that aren’t on the field))? Bouncy Bubble and Sappy Seed could be great for recovery (One is a 60 based power, 100% accurate, special Water type attack that recovers half of the damage inflicted on the target, and the other is a 100 based power, 90% accurate, physical Grass type attack that sets up Leech Seed). The most broken one would be Freezy Frost (A 100 based power, 90% accurate, special Ice type attack that is pretty much Haze that does damage).
Give umbreon poison heal, it’s already very defensive and would like both the heal and status immunity. Plus it fits since umbreon was going to be poison type originally
My thoughts on changing the Eeveelutions moves and abilities only: 1. Give every Eevee + Eeveelution access to Crunch, Agility, Play Rough, Low Kick, Energy Ball, Disable and Nasty Plot (No Let's Go moves) 2. Flareon learns Bulk Up, Buldoze, and Wild Charge. Bulk Up as a sort of alternative option if you don't want to use the Guts build. 3. Not a huge change but Vaporeon has Rain Dish for its hidden ability instead of Hydration 4. Jolteon has Lightningrod for its hidden ability instead of Quick Feet and has access to Flash Cannon 5. Espeon could have Scorching Sands I guess and Flash Cannon 6. Umbreon could have Intimidate or another defensive ability 7. Leafeon has Sap Sipper or Natural Cure like how the video stated 8. Agree with the Glaceon take there and maybe add Flash Cannon im addition 9. Sylveon seems the most fine out of all the other Eeveelutions. Not surewhat ro do there
Glaceon should have snow warning cuz it boots is defense stat it gets, Aura Veil, and chilling water wobe also good since it learns water pulse and auqa tail, flash cannon can be good too since it learns iron tail
I still love these videos but I do have a problem when people try to buff pokemon but in order to do so removes a bit or it's whole identity. Eeveeryone was PERFECT except for 2. Giving all eevultions let's go eevees moves is genius but don't make Flareon into a special attacker and change the eevee move to that, now it's just a different Typhlosion... I was going to complain about dark void Umbreon but Umbreon and Espeon is essentially mini Darkrai and Creselia with the whole moon theme so it actually fits!
Vaporeon I’d give Water Bubble it is the “bubble jet” Pokémon and it’s well known to kinda become one with water (like when it uses acid armor in the anime) so thematically the ability works
@@laprasrules12 oh real shit? I haven’t played in forever tbh but good to know! Just gonna edit out that give Umbreon toxic part ngl, other suggestion was better anyways
The draw back of the Extreme Evoboost inspired move would be having 1 pp, taking up a move slot (which it would already do), and using Eevee And btw, Scorching Sands and Earth Power are ground type moves
Agree with everything except giving Umbreon Dark Void. could have a clone of Dark Void's current version while Dark Void itself gets reverted to its pre nerf state as only Darkrai can use it now. I just don't like the idea of normal pokemon using legendary pokemon's signature moves.
You really want to buff Flareon? Make a Fire type Pixillate. Call it, I dunno, Conflagrate. It now has STAB priority, since Eevee learns Quick Attack. Honestly, every Eeveelution should have a verson of Pixillate, as the natural evolution of Eevee's Adaptability. Flareon is just the one who'd benefit from it most between being the only mixed attacker among them. If any stats should flip it's its special defense , with either Special Attack, (so that its a better mixed attacker), or Speed (to be a viable glass cannon).
I like ur buffs but I would like Jolteon to learn Ice Beam to check on Grass and Ground types and for Flareon, I want to switch its Sp.Def for Speed, Sp.Atk for HP and most importantly change Guts into Adaptability
Way better than alo it has actual offensive merit and haze, alo having knock off and better hp for larger wish passing would technically be the reason to run it but alos just a singles mon for sure anyway it'd never be doubles viable
So, changing the eeveelutions stats is fine so long as all of them have the same 6 stat values. I would probably buff all of them to have some combination of 130, 110, 95, 85, 75, and 70. This brings them up to a 565 BST and patches up some of the difficulties with their stats.
Actually highkey sharpness would actually be huge on leafeon 0 clue why I didn't think of this but it's so in theme and it at minimum becomes a mid tier mon instantly
I'd keap chlorophyll as its other ability though cuz solor blade goes crazy. I also feel like slush rush is a weird pick for glaceon due to its bulkier stats, but i don't have an idea for what
Hear me out: give all the eeveelutions new coverage moves to account for each other’s types. Flamethrower, Surf, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Leaf Blade, Ice Beam and Moonblast. If all of them could have these moves, then I think that would help them a lot. Imagine a Flareon being able to use Leaf Blade, or Jolteon using Ice Beam
The only thing i disagree with is making Flareon a special attacker, mostly because Flareon is the physical evolution, its one of its defining traits.
Id probably buff Flareon by giving it Defiant...or
a new ability that increases their attack every time they take fire or burn damage, that way, flame orb still works without beings worse Ursaluna.
@@kidclover6192 fire types can’t get burned, that’s why Guts Flareon runs toxic orb
@@kidclover6192 think flareon should get reckless and add supercell slam and wild charge to it movepool also giving it close combat can fit in to it nature
The worst thing about eeveelutions its their movepool. They basically dont have any coverage for no reason
This right here. I'm someone who has a great time with plenty of obscure and unpopular competitive pokemon who at least have weirdly good coverage, but no amount of love for the eevee gang can make up for their lack of usability.
Over the years, I've only been able to make sylveon work, a stalling leafeon, and a pretty good tera umbreon. All only on the team out of nepotism (I love them sm)
thats so true. i feel like the eeveelutions should be some of the pokemon with more coverage due to the fact that eevee can evolve into 8 different types, but nope, most of them have very little coverage and even then the moves aren't that great.
They gave it shadow ball and went “yup, problem solved”
@nnik345 yhhh for a pokemon whose whole gimmick is unstable genes, i feel like they should have stupid wide and varied movesets. Let flareon have water moves, and vaporeon fire moves etc😂
For special coverage, Eevee should be able to learn each one of fire, grass, water, electric, dark and ice moves.
For physical coverage, Eevee should have access to each one of fire, water, electric, ice, psychic, ice and fairy moves
Other than the extreme evoboost, I think the funniest single way to buff eeveelutions is to let Eevee have a unique ability that buffs Eeveelutions, like maybe:
"Evolution Chain" - When an ally pokemon that evolves from eevee enters the battle, boost their highest stat by a stage, and boost the user with the same stat.
Maybe volt switch or eject button with your eeveelution to get more cycles? Will you make an eeveelution team? Do something silly with baton pass? Keep it out for support? Or maybe you get to use a Let's Go move as an attacker while it is unevolved.
I love this, because it also encourages a Penny teambuilding style of the strategy being; have the veevs
instead of Extreme Evoboost we could get just Evoboost. a non Z-move that Eevee and the eeveelutions get that boost all their stats by 1 stage. It's the No Retreat attack but without being locked in battle.
@@koakiyuri I’d give in 1 pp too, it make reference too it being a Z Move in the past which is cute
I’m a bit sad that iron tail got removed for umbreon. Iron tail gives umbra a great steel type coverage against fairy types but removed when gen 9 hits.
idea on a good steel move to give Vaporeon that thematically makes sense is Mirror Shot not as powerful but it’s a special move and water can reflect like a mirror
(edit) oh misread this so here’s a Umbreon Suggestion too Flash Canon say it’s moon light
@Grimsly3736 I think they need to really get more creative with their properties as a whole, rather than just keep them to elemental energy;
- Vaporeon is liquifiable, so perhaps there are a few drippy poison moves or glossy steel moves it can learn?
- Espeon is covered in fine, velvet like hair, perhaps it can have some more hair related moves, including ones about grooming the fur? And power gem, for having a Bindi gem
- Jolteon learns pin missile exclusively because it is spiky. Glaceon can literally freeze it's fur into tiny barbs, give it pin missile, and more spiky moves
- Umbreon has toxic rings. Give it some poisonous or vengeful style moves, idk destiny bond? The rings also glow, so it should be able to get moves around that
- Sylveon has special eyes, maybe it can have some psychic or bug powers around being able to lock onto things
- Flareon. Idk, it deserves to be able to do something cool, how about several versatile fire moves that compliment it's stats at least??
- Leafeon, idk I like it. I think a water move or two would be interesting tbh, but I do have a water tera focused set for it
Atleast in the vgc scene it doesn't matter cuz iron tail would be horrible in Umbreon, but idk about singles
@lilpetz500 Vaporeon whole thing in the anime was “acid armor makes it completely blend in with the water” so give more acid moves water does erode
Espeon getting power gem is a great suggestion I’d also say heat wave since it’s a Daytime Evolution
Jolteon I’d actually give some fighting moves it getting double kick was really notable in gen 1
Glaceon I’d give Is like a mountain climber design so I’d say some rock and ground moves could fit
And finally Sylveon can get some bug moves like Silver Wind hell even pollen puff
Tera Steel Tera-Blast
I like a lot of these buffs! My thoughts on Flareon and Leafeon.
Flareon - New Ability: Guts -> Defiant. New Moves: Lash Out, Extreme Speed, High Horsepower / Headlong Rush. While I'm not going to BUFF stats, per se, I would like to swap the SpA stat for the Def stat, to make Flareon a little bulkier.
Leafeon - New Ability: Leaf Guard -> Super Luck. New Moves: (in addition to yours) Focus Energy, Victory Dance, Horn Leech, Ice Spinner, Body Press, Lash Out.
@@haydeniskander5306 I wanna know where tf is leafeon horns also, espeed on a pkm with no lore, off okay, and I be you also didn’t know headlong rush is a fist type move so I don’t see how flareon gonna use that, lash out make since. Before you just tryna make a pokemon “better” think about lore and design about the pokemon (sorry if this sound a little rude, lol)
@@Mio-Dawnaphin Yes, that was worded in a bit of a patronizing way. To address the substance of your comment, however, I'm not too concerned about the design and lore of most pokémon, and I doubt Game Freak is as consistently concerned about that as one would think.
Regarding Headlong Rush: I actually aware that it is a punching move. Great Tusk and Torterra don't have fists, but they learn Headlong Rush. Besides, Pokémon get moves that they "shouldn't" all the time.
Regarding Extreme Speed: the Eeveelutions all have Quick Attack, and I see Extreme Speed as a better version of Quick Attack. Several not-that-fast Pokémon get Extreme Speed (such as Lucario and Dragonite).
Besides, Flareon's been so adorable and so terrible for so long that it kind of deserves some "cheating" moves haha
@@haydeniskander5306 the reasons they have espeed because the lore state they can move as those speed, game freak don’t Willy nilly give espeed to anything. And a slow the reason why Tusk and Torterra get headlong, as it state on the move dex, they use their massive body for the attack instead of their fist and flareon is super small and don’t weigh anything like Tusk or Torterra. I see what you thinking but a better abi for flareon is more of reckless than defiant, like I said you and some valid points and flareon should have wild charge and it should get cc instead of just having superpower.
And if any eeveelution that can get espeed it would be Jolteon over Flareon.
Also another thing a Grass type that get it power but the sun but have ice spinner? One. Leafeon should have cutting moves. 2 leafeon alr gave a good abi in chlorophyll. Just need a better coverage move that not x scizor so it don’t get walked by steel types
@@Mio-Dawnaphin Fair enough on Close Combat over Headlong Rush for Flareon.
As for how it gets Extreme Speed, I would grant the move to Eevee (Eevee is privileged, after all). We can agree to disagree on that, because while I concede the lore argument on Dragonite, I'm not really finding anything about Lucaro. What I think we can both agree on is that Flareon should ABSOLUTELY have Play Rough. I'd even go so far as to say Eevee should have it.
Also, I think Flareon's Def and SpA should be swapped, to at least make it bulkier.
Regarding Leafeon, Ice Spinner doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me. Meowscarada and Tsareena both get Triple Axel, which (if I'm not mistaken) is an advanced spinning maneuver in figure skating. That being said, I get where you're coming from with Leafeon being associated with the sun.
@@haydeniskander5306 yeah ALL eeveelutions should have play rough, also if leafeon even get ice spinning (bro don’t have a flexible body like Meowscarada and Tsar) it won’t even help it that much cuz it steep get walled by any steel type.
Also you tryna make a thing about quick attack = espeed, well no, quick attack is attacking fast, espeed is attacking hyper fast. And gamefreak don’t give out espeed to anything for no reason. reason why Lucario have it it’s due to it’s mad lore. Dragonite, literally fly as hyper speed. Deoxys, Rayquaza moving through space Willy nilly. Even if Lucario don’t have a very valid reason of learning espeed they did have it on purpose and there was most likely a reason that it even have it, like even pikachu had it for quite some time. None of the eeveelutions should have espeed but Jolteon, none of them have lore relevance and saying “ Flaireon can get espeed buz of quick attack” you basically saying all the 500 mons that have quick attack should have espeed too smh
There's 2 buffs I'll give them.
1 is to give all of them an attack type changing ability that matches their type. Pixelate for Sylveon, refrigerate for glaceon, galvanised for jolteon, and so on. This would turn the normal type moves into stab moves and give them better stab options. Most mons have 3 abilities to choose from 2 regular abilities and 1 hidden ability, giving them this ability, and 2 others to choose from would be a good buff.
The 2nd is a better move pool as that is their biggest weakness, the lack of options of moves to use.
I would simply add a feature to hug them mid battle, no opponent could resist and you'd win off My Time
Full eeveelution team time!!
Who's bright idea from GameFreak was it to take away Sylveon's only check to Steel Types in Mystical Fire?!!
At least it freaking got a check?be grateful my boy jolteon has nothing to hit ground types
At least jolt got coverage that not shadow ball no more smh
@@Mio-Dawnaphin what do you mean sylveon gets psyshock for poison?
@@exaunitive4948 I mean jolt used to only have shadow ball, now it have fairy coverage with alluring voice
Mio-Dawnaphin and it helps against ground types how?besides only jolteon did not get alluring voice every single eeveelution did
Like people always say game freak is biased for Gen 1 then why did Gen 1 eeveelutions hardly get anything new
Heck I don't even want ground coverage for jolteon give it spikes and toxic spikes it's literally covered in spikes(it might still be bad in vgc but then it might actually be useful in battle stadium singles and smogon)
Sylveon should have access to Earth Power to deal with Poison and Steel-types.
Psychic psyshock mystical fire
@@Hooploops777 misticall fire is now gone from its move pool
Espeon goes straight to AG 💀
Eevee: Follow Me and that Adaptability carries another ability when evolved.
Vaporeon: Storm Drain or Swift Swim
Jolteon: Lightning Rod or Motor Drive
Flareon: Thermal Exchange or Fur Coat
Espeon: Sheer Force or Magic Guard
Umbreon: Shadow Tag or Stamina
Leafeon: Sharpness or Unburden; and boosting Leaf Guard to also prevent stat drops
Glaceon: Slush Rush
Sylveon: Friend Guard or a renamed Punk Rock
For Flareon, I’d just give it extreme speed and switch flash fire to one or inner focus, defiant, or reckless. Also give it sizzily slide. This would mean it can hit hard with a guts extreme killer set, especially if it gets an SD off (I think it has SD? If it doesn’t give it to it). I think inner focus and defiant are kinda boring, but Reckless is nice for flare blitz spam and potentially wild charge as an option that you can add to its move pool. That way Flareon can be a scary trick room sweeper, but it should have enough speed to function in tailwind as well. I think there are better options than just making Flareon special although I see where you’re coming from.
Other than that, I love all of your choices great video!
Giving Eevee and Evoboost move would be kinda OP... Because that means all of its evolutions would get it as well. I suppose a fair way to implement it would be for it to _only_ work when used by Eevee. Like No Retreat except the drawback is only one Pokemon can use it instead of not being able to switch out.
Cool analysis and suggestions! I'd appreciate if you had the text of the moves on the video, because I had no idea what Bouncy Bubble and the like to
No... You CAN'T just mess up Flareon's entire design like that... If you're going to buff them, do it in-line with its design philosophy. Flareon's biggest issue is its move pool. If it can't compete with Incineroar and similar fire type physical attackers, you need to give it something that they don't have, NOT just switch its entire stat spread. Its even worse changing Sizzly Slide to Sp. Atk too, because that doesn't even make thematic sense!
At least we're not slapping the dragon typing onto everything that remotely resembles a reptile left and right it's kinda annoying after a while
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I've always been a huge fan of Flareon, And have always wanted to see these changes to it's learn set
25- Fire Spin -> Will-O Wisp
29- Scary Face -> Smoke Screen
33- Smog -> Poison Fang
37- Lava Plume -> Flame Wheel
41- Last Resort -> Double Edge
TM- Wild Charge
Also, buffing Eevee to partner level stats would require adjusting all the evolutions up in multiple stats, as partner eevee's worst stat (65) is is higher than an Eeveelution's worst stat (60), and they'd all need to have better HP than the base form, (now 65) seeing as they're more than twice the size.
Current spread (no order) 65 (HP min), 60, 65, 95, 110, 130 (total 525)
New spread: 75 (HP min), 65, 70, 95, 110, 130 (total 545) or 75, 60, 75, 95, 110, 130 (might be fun to have all of them lose something on an Eevee since they're supposed to be genetically unstable.)
Eevee doesn't learn any non-normal moves by level, but if there's one it should, it's Play Rough. Won't do a whole lot for most of its evolutions, but the two with Physical Attack are both resisted by Dragon.
The thing is getting rid of magic bounce hurts singles espeon so so much. Keep magic bounce, but replace synchronize with dazzling. Then it can threaten both
Scorching Sands is a Ground move. Vaporeon also does not have 130 base SPA. Making so many ridiculous buffs that are completely implausible really casts doubt on your qualifications to make such recommendations.
Give each eeveelution their respective partner eevee move (and rename them while you are at it).
Niiice, you decided to include this buff too!
Easy. Evolve them from the let's go Eevee and have their stats go up from their
I think it would be cool if every eeveelution got access to the weather/terrain abilities. It would give a lot more variety to some of those weather/terrain teams than some of the same few mons
Don't give mythical/legendary Pokemon's signature moves to regular Pokemon please... Darkrai has suffered enough from Smeargle's meddling.
I think espeon should have sheer force instead of synchronize, so it would be able to power up psychic, alluring voice and shadow ball, and maybe they could give him flamethrower to hit steel types
just use tera blast fire
It has Magic Bounce, one of the best abilities in the game.
Mystical fire would be more fitting for Espeon, wouldn't it?
Dazzling from Espeon was such a genius idea omg
They need give Eevee back it’s Let’s Go moves and let the Eeveelutions learn them. Could you imagine Leafeon with Ice, Bug, and Steel type coverage with Sizzly Slide (A 60 based power, 100% accurate, physical Fire type attack that always burns), or Sylveon being the ultimate cleric Pokemon with Sparkly Swirl (A 120 based power, 85% accurate, special Fairy type attack that heals the status conditions of every Pokemon in your party (Including ones that aren’t on the field))? Bouncy Bubble and Sappy Seed could be great for recovery (One is a 60 based power, 100% accurate, special Water type attack that recovers half of the damage inflicted on the target, and the other is a 100 based power, 90% accurate, physical Grass type attack that sets up Leech Seed). The most broken one would be Freezy Frost (A 100 based power, 90% accurate, special Ice type attack that is pretty much Haze that does damage).
scorching sands is a ground type move ...
Give umbreon poison heal, it’s already very defensive and would like both the heal and status immunity. Plus it fits since umbreon was going to be poison type originally
My thoughts on changing the Eeveelutions moves and abilities only:
1. Give every Eevee + Eeveelution access to Crunch, Agility, Play Rough, Low Kick, Energy Ball, Disable and Nasty Plot (No Let's Go moves)
2. Flareon learns Bulk Up, Buldoze, and Wild Charge. Bulk Up as a sort of alternative option if you don't want to use the Guts build.
3. Not a huge change but Vaporeon has Rain Dish for its hidden ability instead of Hydration
4. Jolteon has Lightningrod for its hidden ability instead of Quick Feet and has access to Flash Cannon
5. Espeon could have Scorching Sands I guess and Flash Cannon
6. Umbreon could have Intimidate or another defensive ability
7. Leafeon has Sap Sipper or Natural Cure like how the video stated
8. Agree with the Glaceon take there and maybe add Flash Cannon im addition
9. Sylveon seems the most fine out of all the other Eeveelutions. Not surewhat ro do there
@@itshanol what’s intimidating about Umbreon 💀-
Glaceon should have snow warning cuz it boots is defense stat it gets, Aura Veil, and chilling water wobe also good since it learns water pulse and auqa tail, flash cannon can be good too since it learns iron tail
@@Mio-Dawnaphin Eh it was a bit of a stretch but I was thinking you see its glow in the dark
@@itshanol dazzling :/
I think the eeveelutions should really get the let’s go moves. And unrelated raichu/Alolan form should get the let’s go pika moves.
you could also give umbreon prankster or intimidate and it would be a huge buff
I still love these videos but I do have a problem when people try to buff pokemon but in order to do so removes a bit or it's whole identity. Eeveeryone was PERFECT except for 2. Giving all eevultions let's go eevees moves is genius but don't make Flareon into a special attacker and change the eevee move to that, now it's just a different Typhlosion... I was going to complain about dark void Umbreon but Umbreon and Espeon is essentially mini Darkrai and Creselia with the whole moon theme so it actually fits!
Vaporeon I’d give Water Bubble it is the “bubble jet” Pokémon and it’s well known to kinda become one with water (like when it uses acid armor in the anime) so thematically the ability works
Umbreon did get Toxic back in the teal mask
@@laprasrules12 oh real shit? I haven’t played in forever tbh but good to know! Just gonna edit out that give Umbreon toxic part ngl, other suggestion was better anyways
How to buff Glaceon, give it an extra base 40/50 speed XD
poison heal umbreon please, it makes sense from his dex entries, one cool thing would be to heavly expand eevee movepoll
I feel like Glaceon should get snow warning it learns Aurora veil already and learn moves like chilling water
The draw back of the Extreme Evoboost inspired move would be having 1 pp, taking up a move slot (which it would already do), and using Eevee
And btw, Scorching Sands and Earth Power are ground type moves
Agree with everything except giving Umbreon Dark Void. could have a clone of Dark Void's current version while Dark Void itself gets reverted to its pre nerf state as only Darkrai can use it now. I just don't like the idea of normal pokemon using legendary pokemon's signature moves.
You really want to buff Flareon? Make a Fire type Pixillate. Call it, I dunno, Conflagrate. It now has STAB priority, since Eevee learns Quick Attack.
Honestly, every Eeveelution should have a verson of Pixillate, as the natural evolution of Eevee's Adaptability. Flareon is just the one who'd benefit from it most between being the only mixed attacker among them. If any stats should flip it's its special defense , with either Special Attack, (so that its a better mixed attacker), or Speed (to be a viable glass cannon).
Make eevees move two turns so its forced to run power herb
I think that Espeon should get Solar Power instead of Flareon, I think that would give it an interesting nieche on sun teams
You cooked with Vaporeon, but completely lost me with Flareon
There low move pools are it main weacknes thats why some of the thrive in stab mons(in showdon)
Leafeon should get grassy surge
I think the best way to fix them is by giving all of them extreme speed
The LGPE moves should not return. It'd be also better if the ability picks were a bit more thematic.
I'd give Umbreon Prankster, given it's not built to be offensive
started off really good and then dark void? moody? not replacing snow cloak?
I like ur buffs but I would like Jolteon to learn Ice Beam to check on Grass and Ground types and for Flareon, I want to switch its Sp.Def for Speed, Sp.Atk for HP and most importantly change Guts into Adaptability
I still think the best way to buff them is to give the eeveelutions new double-typed evolutions with the other types
Eviolite Umbreon would be crazy
What was that animation at the start? The one with N and one if the ruin legends.
Vape just becomes an alo clone no?
Way better than alo it has actual offensive merit and haze, alo having knock off and better hp for larger wish passing would technically be the reason to run it but alos just a singles mon for sure anyway it'd never be doubles viable
So, changing the eeveelutions stats is fine so long as all of them have the same 6 stat values. I would probably buff all of them to have some combination of 130, 110, 95, 85, 75, and 70. This brings them up to a 565 BST and patches up some of the difficulties with their stats.
Just give leafeon sharpness so its good outside of sun teams
Actually highkey sharpness would actually be huge on leafeon 0 clue why I didn't think of this but it's so in theme and it at minimum becomes a mid tier mon instantly
I'd keap chlorophyll as its other ability though cuz solor blade goes crazy. I also feel like slush rush is a weird pick for glaceon due to its bulkier stats, but i don't have an idea for what
A lot of y’all just gotta change their ability or update their move Pool
10:10 Since when is Earth Power a Rock type attack?
Please do early bugs next.
Magic bounce on umbreon would be dope
My fav eeveelution is Sylveon
Go and fix castform please i beg you
Hear me out: give all the eeveelutions new coverage moves to account for each other’s types. Flamethrower, Surf, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Leaf Blade, Ice Beam and Moonblast.
If all of them could have these moves, then I think that would help them a lot. Imagine a Flareon being able to use Leaf Blade, or Jolteon using Ice Beam
I would give Eevee 70 across the board.
FIX FLAREON AND GLACEON RIGHT NOOOOWWWW GAMEFREAK
Hold up you playing Dokkan?
Easiest buff ever: every Eevee caught by a female trainer should have access to Baddy Bad through the use of a Heart Scale
Super cool
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you say really good & really cool too often. it detracts from the points youre making. youre well spoken. write better scripts. great vid tho.