Ruger PC9 Review
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I own a Ruger 9mm pc carbine , it is absolutely awesome weapon and fun to shoot. 95 percent of problems are operator problems and not the gun. A truly amazing weapon . Ruger knocked it out the park again. The Ruger 9mm carbine 5 Stars...
@@superpoint43 i live in CT. this is a great option
@@bryan7853 Right? A few hundred for the Ruger or $1000 plus for the legal "Others" that are a pubic hair away from getting banned too.
And there's nothing on the market like it, hence why they are flying off the shelves.
I too live in horrible ct an I also have one I switched out for this Midwest industry's hand rail too
For an Urban emergency setup, having one of these, plus a glock, means your ammo and mags work across all your weapons. Toss in some extended mags if those are legal in your state, and you'd be good to go.
^^THIS^^
Better options certainly exist. But for poor bastards like me in ban states, this is a solid option.
The Hi-point Pcc's are the true poor mans option at like 200 bucks and they are funny enough quite good guns. I have the 45 acp model and its never given me an issue with several thousand rounds through it. Though it is like bringing un ugly girl to meet your buddies
I'd say the Ruger PC Carbine is more of a mid-tier option. It's better than a Hi-Point carbine or a Kel-Tec Sub2K, but it's not quite at the level of a Beretta CX4 or CZ Scorpion Evo. I'd also suggest it would be more reliable than the majority of AR platform 9s. I picked up an M LOK model for around $550 after tax, shipping and transfer fees and I love how solid and well built it feels.
@@defmud80 The Hi-Point is not an option for those of us in slave states. The pistol grip gets it classified as an "assault weapon" and thus many dealers won't stock them. Even though Hi-Point offers an option with the kydex wrap around the grip, a lot of dealers won't bother ordering those.
@@Robert5hw Damn. Was it used? Mine cost me 629 on Thursday, and the gun shop had to order everything I wanted, so I haven't paid the shipping fees yet. I guess it's ok though, cuz I got a brand new Rossi SR22 for 113 bucks and 1000 rds of .22 ammo for 44 bucks, in Hicksville, but still a police state.
NYS Hipoint banned, Scorpion banned, Keltec sub2000 banned, CX4 banned, AR pistols Banned (no one makes 16 inch non threaded barrels in 9mm, PC9 AOK
I love my Ruger PC carbine. No complaints. To each their own.
A couple thoughts on your review: I was concerned when you refer to the PC Carbine as "this thing," it makes your review seem somewhat less than objective. Your criticism of the bolt lock system doesn't seem to provide an example of a "more modern" method to lock the bolt to the rear, when the Ruger blade/10/22 design is serviceable and well known to legions of 10/22 shooters. If you prefer the HK MP5 bolt lock, you'll remember it needs to be manually locked to the rear before an emergency reload, and then released to close not anywhere near as close to the trigger/safety as the PC Carbine. The Ruger PC Carbine's weight is comparable with other similar, or even lesser, quality pistol caliber carbines. The safety is maybe not what you're used to, say, in a AR-style pistol carbine and or an MP5, but very useful, and consistent with a Ruger 10/22 or many shotguns. And comparing a 5.3" barrel subgun to a 16.5" pistol carbine for any reason is not a valid comparison, and honestly, disingenuous. And... it's not a battle rifle, so that's another invalid comparison. And the Ruger PC carbine sights are awesome, especially in concert with the stock. Additionally, your mag prices are off, there isn't a real handgun/pistol that takes an Scorpion EVO mag, and the Scorpion EVO, is a LOT less carbine for a lot more money unless you really like plastic. How would you feel about a Charger-style "pistol" version?
Donald Ardell I don’t know if mentioned it because I own a PC carbine and like it alot but I couldn’t stand his review. He was all over the place with his thoughts and comparisons. Anyway you can switch the charging handle to the left and it works out perfectly. You pull the bolt back with the left hand and lock the bolt back with the right index finger. Finally. An awesome set up. And have always liked the modern cross bolt safety.
Older review and comment but I agree. Almost every review where the person doesn't like it of either the pc carbine or charger they basically seem to just go on about how the controls are not AR like, and that it's not modern and won't be very familiar to people. Completely overlooking the fact that it's essentially a 9mm 10/22, and A LOT of us started on 10/22's. I got my pc charger exactly a year ago, and though I'd become more familiar with the AR platform, I felt right at home with the charger. It also seems guys complain about the charging handle and mag release not being on the right side for them, and on the charger, the brace folding the wrong way. They may even acknowledge the fact that all this can be changed in less then 10 minutes but refuse to do it and instead count it as a negative..... idk just seems this platform gets unfairly looked at often. If you want an ar in 9mm buy an ar in 9mm, if you want an mp5 buy an mp5, same for an mpx or scorpion. Don't buy Rugers platform and then complain that it's not one of those
Nice thing about the 16” barrel 9mm you can shoot bad guy in the house and not blow out your eardrums. Shoot bad guy with ar 15 and then you loss your hearing.
Temporarily. It's the constant use, like deployed military that screws up your hearing, they provide earplugs, but most guys don't use them for a variety of good reasons.
Collin Hennessy Yep. Lost mine to 155 howitzers in 1965. No plugs were supplied . Ringing in ears for 55 years .
@JKay11235 Yes, I fired a 20" barrel AR at an indoor range, after forgetting to put on ear protection. I had tinnitis for a while, but my hearing is fine now.
@@VagoniusThicket My brother was a Forward Observer in Afghanistan, and he can't hear shit now.
@JKay11235 No, I don't want an AR pistol. I used to have a little .22 lr pistol. I fired it outside. I never thought a .22 could be so loud.
I agree. Once this rifle was a serious contender, i spent a couple weeks researching it before I finally bought it.
This gun is great for range time with my youngest son. I have had my PC Carbine for two years. Thousands of rounds with an assortment of ammo with not one jam.
Yes, the sites are a limiting factor on shooting groups. But this gun is improved immensely with an inexpensive red-dot. I shoot 1 Moa groups with my Sig Romeo 5 all day long.
I hope you dont take this negatively, as my intentions are not to be.
From the outside looking in, it was obvious from the first you are not impressed with this rifle. And thats fine. You come across as a Tactical kind of guy.
You readily and continually say folks wont like your review.
Its all good, but I think if you just said its not for you that would sound more honest.
I have shot a friends and loved it. I will be getting one as a neat companion for my G17 :-)
William Lutes from what I’ve seen so far this guy complains about everything.
Maybe, his reloads were the reason for the reliability issues? As for accuracy, I've watched another RUclipsr, using a decent red dot, hit shaving cream cans at 150 yards with the Ruger PC Carbine. While the gun may not be a tack driver, I think its accuracy is more than good enough.
@@chesslover8829 I own one and mines is ridiculously accurate stock out of the box. These like very tight tension in the springs in the mags. If the springs have lost any tension you'll see some failures to feed properly. Again that's what I've noticed.
@@m.danielmills7091 Thanks for the feedback! In that case, I'm going to get one. I'll make sure I have a properly working set of mags for home defence. I'm not worried about clearing a jam at the range.
@@mattwalters6834 he just has a whiny sounding voice too
they will sell a bunch just for the capability of taking Glock mags
I just shot mine again this weekend, absolutely love it. I think I'll get the aftermarket hand guard for better grip and hot barrel protection. FYI the 9mm Magpul mags run great I it and are half as expensive as glock mags.
9mm pistol and 9mm rifle = 2 weapons with an inexpensive, common bullet...
and this PC Carbine gives the 9mm the punch of a 357.
In 2020 finding 9mm ammo is like trying to find a live unicorn!
@@Leoji67 what a difference a year makes lol
The Ruger PC carbine is perfect. I love my ARs but this one is understated. Sort of “gray man” type of rifle. Less chance of over penetration. Very well made and super fun to shoot. 🤷🏻♂️
Franklin armory makes a binary trigger for this carbine now
Stfu with the "greyman" new catch phrase. You sheep all sound the same.
I've been spoiled by my 9mm carbine - an Uzi. I stopped keeping track after 23,000 rounds of factory ammo and my handloads.. Not a single malfunction. And I regularly hit 3" steel targets at 50 and 100 yards. That's how a carbine should be made.
Here in California it makes a good home defense for my wife
400 hundred price difference is not competitive.... maybe 100, PSA AKV was like 750.00 last time I looked but they are sold out all time.....Over 1000 dollars for a 9mm carbine, your brother has what 700.00 in that. So what is dosen’t look a Zenith MP5, CZ, or sig.....personally they hipster Gucci overpriced pistols. By the way the evo is about 6 and half pounds, I’d take an overbuild Ruger any day
Indeed. I mean, the other firearms that he is mentioning are great guns, but for criminy's sake, they are in an entirely different class of firearms. I think he really is looking at it the wrong way. That said, ignoring the last part of the review, it's a pretty good review. Personally, he should take this down, and just cut off the end part with all the nonsense about the Z5P and Evo and whatnot and then re-upload it. Just ridiculous comparisons and it takes away from the review.
The Ruger has a huge advantage over your mp5 clone, and Scorpions and similar guns. Its a *long gun* and in a lot of states that means it has little to no regulation compared to pistols. Using Texas law for a example:
You don't need a LTC to carry it, even concealed in backpack. For a pistol you would.
You can open carry it pretty much anywhere.
You can have it openly displayed in your car. Pistols must remain concealed.
Then on the federal level, the only reason all the pistol carbines are popular now is because of the ATFs ruling on pistol braces. A ruling passed because Trump told the ATF to lay off. As soon as a Democrat is president, I guarantee you that pistol brace ruling is going to get reversed. Then its back to cheek holds if we're lucky, or they may get banned all together, like bump stocks did.
The Ruger is a very safe bet.
THIS. As someone stuck (due to work and family) in a non-free state (F-You NY!) an RPC Carbine is pretty much the only way I can get a pistol caliber firearm outside of selling my soul to Criminal Cuomo and his Cadre of Communist Crooks.
Looks better in front of a jury too. "PC" vs. "Scorpion"? You be the judge.
@@Wearyman I live in NY, and I'm picking mine up on Thursday.
This is a very good point. Even as laws may change in the future, chances are this Ruger PCC will remain legal because of its "tame features"; i.e. no pistol grip, no bayonet lug, no collapsable stock; etc.
I believe i will still shoulder my brace. I'm tired of these wannabe small gods trying to dictate my life. And YES, firearms rights are the hill im willing to die on.
What you have in the video is a PC Carbine, not a PC9. The PC9 was manufactured 1996 to 2006 and is a different firearm. The PC Carbine was manufactured beginning 2017.
I own 2 pc9s i still think they are better then this new carbines
One factor he overlooked during the pros and cons is someone who’s looking for maybe a self-defense/truck gun pcc configuration but live in New Yorkistan and don’t have the AR option
Fortunately I have only have one feeding issue in around a 1000 rounds, but I only use the 17 Ruger mag. Great review 👍
I made it 9 min in. So you wanted an AR15 in 9mm to "represent the 21st century". Understood, but do you live here in CA? I do and appreciate what Ruger has produced.
Rember one Very important thing for the young guys here.. 1.9mm developed in 1908 2. Germans used there 9 mm submachine guns very well in fact our soldiers dumped the 45 Tommy gun.3. In saying as much on that look at the countries that use a 9mm machine gun today and of course all the 9mm hand guns.Now for the last note here MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIFE WITH THESE.Thanks good video im a new owner to the Ruger and again thanks to your other video will get the fore end like yours. Been using firearms since I was six and trust me i hunt large game, I target shoot at one time for money and last i fought in compat in the worst ever battle and Thats Vietnam!!
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@OreGear thanks I see you like your Ice-cream cone with your Uncle Biden
I use 115 gr. hollow points shot about 500 rds. No problems . Factory ammo.
Larry Costigan Eats S&B 115 hrs ball all day. Bought a case.
I've heard that after re installing the barrel, cycle the action a few times to get things settled back to in. Supposed to help the accuracy.
I have had mine for a while now and have put around 700 to 800 rounds through it with not a single problem! ...but like any mechanical item, I suppose you can get one that needs work ...but I love mine!
The problem with sport shooters or technical gun nerds, is the lack of emphasis put on practicality in a fucking shitstorm. I buy many weapons, with the possibility of complete fuckery in the back of my mind. And a weapon like this is priceless. There will be nothing like being able to hand a friend, neighbor or family member a complete system in the form of a Glock 17, PC9 and 20 mags, all for around a $1000. That's fucking golden. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. This weapon was brought back out, to provide versatility and function, and it fits the bill, VERY well. If you are looking for a Cadillac to drive around the range, then yes, by all means, go buy something else.
Great review, man. I own a Ruger PC Carbine chambered in .40 S&W. Haven’t had any issues with it so far.
Especially for folks like me who are less familiar with the AR/Tactical platforms but more familiar with a simple hunting rifle platform, this thing is a hidden gem. We are used to carrying a heavy gun around in the bush and don’t mind the weight. I actually find it to be far more comfortable to shoot because of the weight. And it’s easier for a guy like me to pick this up and get a good cheek weld quickly for consistent and accurate shots. Thanks for an honest review. The onus is on the buyer to see what works best for them personally.
Good option if you live in cali. Can't get to many cool guy weapons here anymore
The main reason I picked it up. I honestly wasn't too enthusiastic about it even when I bought it.
Then I shot it. Damn was I impressed. I fell in love with it.
Did this guy ONCE mention the cost of 9mm ammo vs the cost of the other calibers that he mentioned? This alone make me think twice about his so called "hate to say" thoughts about this firearm... and his entire review. And he was using handloads??? Whatever.
First time viewer from Georgia, I was one of those who was about to drop money down on the PC 9MM. Until one of ours group came in with a Bear Creek Arsenal AR chambered 5.56 16" M4 barrel, with a 1:7 twist. $361.69 + $25 FFL.To make a short story long, three of the group are brothers like Larry, Darryl an your other brother Darryl. They're our reloaders. I should be getting a call from my FFL soon, an package on the porch with two extra mags.
I'm impressed that it cycled with subsonic ammo.
John Nickolsen It truly does. Well thought out. I believe I read or saw in a video they designed it that way. The whole tungsten weight thing.
Watch John Harrell put different ammo tnru this rifle. He had it interminglrd in a magazine and everyghing cycled just fine.
@@kennethcurtis1856 I am pretty sure the Harrell you mean is Paul Harrell, I could be wrong, they are both biblical names
For what it was made for, plus the price it is the good choice.
Most thorough and honest review from your perspective. Thanks for all the information.
Ordered mine. Waiting for delivery. Should pick it up on Tuesday. Mine is the base model. I will probably add the handgaurd and a red dot, as well as possibly a light.
All of the malfunctions shown in the video were with a long magazine. I don't know if it's the same one, but it wouldn't be surprising. It may just be a weak magazine spring, which isn't the fault of the gun at all.
I'm used to carrying my M1A, so the weight of the PC9 won't be a problem.
I think this rifle is going after the restricted states market and/or people who already have more tactical 9mm carbines/pistols and are looking for something a little different. I don’t think anyone expects it to outclass an mp5 or something similar. I think you misunderstood the spirit of the rifle. It’s a nostalgic release of the classic 9mm camp style carbine ruger sold several years back.
I’m not sure it even works for that market because it has features that are always targeted by bans. Semi auto, the capacity to use magazines of more than 10 rounds, threaded barrel, etc
@@OreGear I think it's Ruger going after the Kel-Tec Sub2k market. People have been wanting something like the Sub-2k for a long time that is light, take down capable for storage, but doesnt require offset optics or aftermarket parts to retain optics when taken down for storage. The Sub-2k has all of those problems, even the Gen 2's dont allow for storage with optics.
The fact it's Glock mag compatible is something everyone should do if they want something to sell well too.
This violates the very first qualifier you gave
@@OreGear The weight? I mean yeah it's not as light as a SUb-2k, but in general, it is light.
If you think 7lbs is light, I’m curious what you consider heavy for a 9mm PCC.
Love that it is compatible with Glock mags. Think I'm just going to buy the original factory model and not this one. To me it's like it's trying to be an AR. And yes it's California compliance.
I've seen reviews on flintlocks, on RUclips. You can never be late with a firearm review. Thanks for your take on it.
Scorpion is double the price though.
I’ve only had mine to the range once so far. I fired exclusively American Eagle ball ammo in 115 and 147 grain weights, and I fired both bullet weights suppressed and unsuppressed. I used both 17 round and 33 round Glock magazines. I *did* experience 3 or 4 malfunctions out of about 150 rounds fired; but it is worth noting that they ONLY happened with the 33 round fun sticks. Also, they happened when I was resting the weight of the gun on the magazine base while shooting from a bench. And lastly, they didn’t start happening until the gun was good and dirty - which was largely the result of shooting suppressed most of the time.
I also own a 11.5” SBR in 5.56 which is my primary home defense firearm - which I also suppress. I didn’t buy the PC9 as a replacement for the SBR. I bought it for something to throw in my "emergencies box" which I keep in the back of my SUV. I bought it specifically because (a) it takes the same mags/ammo as my carry pistols; and (b) because it doesn’t look all scary tactical to the casual (and likely uninformed) observer. It’s basically both a "plinker of opportunity" and a "get me home in a SHTF” gun that will pack just a little bit more punch (by virtue of velocity) than my EDC carry pistol. I’m a gimpy old man, and consequently an avoider of gun fights if at all possible.
I *also* own a 1943 Inland M1 carbine, and while it isn’t magazine or ammo compatible with my sidearm of choice, it is far more powerful, lighter, more accurate, and more reliable than the PC9. If I weren’t afraid of the possibility of having it stolen (it's nearly all original and quite valuable), I would use it as a truck gun instead, and would maybe have not have even bought the Ruger. But that is the role that I see owners of the PC9 buying it to fulfill - whether they had thought about it or not. Decades ago, thousands of Americans kept a M1 carbine behind their pickup truck's seat, or in the trunk of their car, for exactly that reason....opportunistic plinking/small game hunting, or for a "something arises" situation. And that’s my intended use for my PC9.
that sounds pretty trash, i've got 300-400 rounds through my freakin micro 9mm Kahr CM9 (which is unbelievably tiny, like almost LCP sized) without a single malfunction. And I've never cleaned any gun I own yet TBH lol. Also got 300-400 so far through my Hi Point 9mm carbine with admittedly one malfunction in the first few rounds only. Since then perfect, and that was with the factory 10 round mag, no malfunctions with the redball 20 round mag. And that's a 249 carbine. And I dont ever plan to clean it lol, I'll just shoot some spray lube in the bolt assembly every so often (the hi point is said to be a bear to take apart and a lot of people follow the spray into the bolt never clean method with it).
honestly dont know if i've just had good luck but I almost never have any malfunctions with any of my semi-autos. Even my tiny LCP .380 and CM9, in hundreds of rounds in each (thousands overall between them). I've had like one malfunction with my LCP (very early, on the last round of a mag) one with my hi point, one with my PSA AR that I hesitate to even count as it was like literally the 2nd time i ever pulled the trigger with it and was a really weird malfunction, it literally just airballed and didn't pick up a round from the mag somehow, never an issue since) pretty much none ever with any other semi auto I've owned, including my Glock 19 I've had 10+ years...and as I said I've yet to clean any of my guns (I dont put thousands of rounds through them, just got back into shooting the last 5 years and ammo is too expensive!)
I understand what you are saying, but you are comparing apples to oranges. This is more of a review about the practicality of it for defensive purposes rather than the gun itself. I own multiple different calibered ARs and understand their strengths compared to the PC but 99% of the people purchasing this gun aren't doing so to compete with rifle calibers IMO
I own one an I love it with 50 round drum
Very true, this is not a go to war gun but good for home / urban defense and any bug out situation. Sure I would rather have a cqb MK18 with M855A1 rnds :)
I have shot about 500-750 rounds through my PC Carbine, not a single FTF, and only one or two FTE.
Perfect home defense weapon. Not great if you are a self proclaimed civilian operator....lol. But perfect for any stature to use in home defense. Glad they brought this to market. Thank you sir for the review.
Freaking awesome weapon when the bad guys show up!!! N yes you have the right to defend yourself n your family!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Different strokes my friend. For ban states, this is a good affordable option into PCC's. It's a good option for folks that aren't trying to be in a local operator cadre. This thing is selling well, and will only do better once more mag wells and caliber options come out. If Ruger was smart, they hang up the Mini 14 and put those production resources into the PC Carbine line since they already offer actual AR's. As I write this, Ruger has just dropped the pistol grip chassis for the PC Carbine. Things are only getting better, as it after market is taking to the PC Carbine as well.
I wrote a comment above but you seem knowledgeable. LEt's say hypothetically I wanted to get a PCC model 19116 which has the rifle stock (no pistol grip). Are there any pistol grip chassis/stock that would be compatible with that model or is there a way to add a pistol grip stock that isnt the magpul backpacker?
@@christophernigh291 Midwest Industries sells a chassis, Crom USA has a chassis, Tandemkross has a chassis. The question is, if you are buying a “state compliant” model, are you legally allowed to possess a pistol grip chassis? Unless you’re gonna drive there in person. Some of these companies won’t even ship to a ban state. Too much liability.
I feel like you never had a beard and just one day woke up and it was there, full grown.
I’m not sure what that means
It needs a wood stock and a drum mag . ala ppsh41
Magpul makes the drum magazine now.
Once thing you are overlooking states with weapons bans. Those of us who are stuck in the barbed wire states make do with what’s available.
9mm version of the 10/22
I love my PC carbine. I would have liked to have seen the bolt lock in front of the trigger guard just a bit wider as it just doesn't feel right when I push it. I have to date never had a feed problem and all I've shot has been 115gr TulAmmo steel cased rounds. I use the Glock magazines but its hard to use a bench rest with the 33 rd mag. What I would love to see is someone come out with a 50 rd drum made specifically for this rifle that has the drum sit against the bottom of the gun and not stick out 6" because it's made for a handgun. Come on manufacturers... step up to the plate and git er done!
if you carry a glock having this would be a benefit over an AR15 just because you already ave mags on you.
medina619 Carbine and side arm caliber compatibility has been a plus since cowboy times. But the mag interchangeability is what sold me. It takes any Glock double stack 9 mag including 33 rds sticks 50 rds Korean drums and Beta C mag. Grinning.
Most ar15 style 9mm rifles and pistols take glock mags also. Very common. I like the pc carbine. So dont think i am arguing with you but glock mags are fairly common.
danny housley I also have a TNW Aerorifle in 9mm and also take Glock mags. I like it alot. I wish I’d have gotten the ASP their pistol version which you can brace now only they weren’t making them then. Anyways in a review of the Aerorifle in the comments section some one stated they like the ASR better than an AR platform 9mm they owned as it was lighter more compact as it does take down and was half the cost. I like mine alot and also bought one in 45acp. So check out that option. Ruger now has that ventilated forearm and am trying to get one.
I think your a bit off on your comparison , and you knew it going into this review. You can't compare it to an AR because it's not trying to be one. I think it's more of a plinking or varmint gun.
My goal was to tell people that’s all it’s suited for and prevent people from thinking this could fill a role that it wasn’t designed for.
@@OreGear what roll would that be?
@@OreGear it fills the roll of a home defense gun snd a Jeep gun when we go on tne trails in Colorado and Utah.
My pc carbine doesn't like 33 round glock mags. Glad to see they run for some people
I agree on most of what you stated. I don't need it to break down. I would much rather have the longer sight radius. Aesthetics, I can't get over the fact that the barrel isn't centered in the forearm.... Now should ruger make this in a Bullpup or semi Bullpup version as a handgun, with a 8-10" barrel and brace ready, I'd buy one today.
Niles Coyote They have come out with an aluminum machined hand guard model. And MI is making an aftermarket version. I’ve handled Rugers and it feels great in the hand. And Rugers goes all the way to the front sight where MI’s is shorter kinda looks unfinished. So I think Rugers would look better with suppressor in place as well.
I had strongly considered Henry's Homesteader. Then saw the PC9. Ruger got my money. I've had two 10/22s for over 15 years and love it.
My group with my PC carbine 9mm are far better at 50yrd (under 1&1/2")then this video. Only problems I had we're on the floor first magazine where a few rounds fed vertically like in this video
The rubber butt pad does leave black smudges on light colored surfaces. FYI
14 mins in he actually reviews a gun.
I recall years ago as a reserve deputy I was looking at the then new release of the l frame smith revolver to replace my k frame as it was being battered by the 357 mags. The man behind the counter complained about the extra weight of the 681 and it's under lugged barrel and having to carry that "heavy" gun around...funny thing was this guy was pushing 400 pounds..
Found your opinion helpful. Looking hard at Scorpion evo and trying to see if that would fit my needs more or less. Thanks! Subscribed.
I like the traditional stock. I modified the stock on my Henry Big boy X .45 Colt to take qd sling mounts. Turned out great.
Waiting for mine to get here. If Ruger ever builds one in .357 mag, or .44 mag. Im getting one.
Ok but your miss feeds was the glock mags .
My AR47 is side charge. Personally I think that's a much better idea. Especially if you use a scope.
Fair review. My experience, after only a couple hundred rounds, has been 100% reliable. I think one major plus to this carbine is that it is attractive to those of us behind enemy lines in nanny states. Believe me, I would love to get my hands on a zenith replica or a scorpion evo, it's just not in the cards. The PCC gives us a good option.
Given that it’s a semi auto capable of accepting magazines larger than 10 round and a threaded barrel, in honesty surprised that this would be legal where the others aren’t.
@@OreGearat least in CA we can still have a semi auto rifle with a threaded barrel capable of accepting mags larger than 10 rounds (thanks in large part to the recent "freedom week" mag ban lift that I'm pretty sure every CA gun owner took advantage of) as long as it fits the definition of "featureless". Meaning no pistol grip, collapsible stock, flash hider, or vert foregrip. It's just a good option for us suffering from this crap gun control.
I’d like to see this type of carbine chambered in 300 blk out instead it could be a decent truck gun .
@@ceejay8775 that would definitely be a hot seller.
@@OreGear Not all models come with threaded barrels, and the ones that do can just have the thread protector permanently attached to the barrel. I live in upstate NY, and every gun store in the area carries these.
The comment about a 1% failure rate "but it's probably 100% my reloads fault" doesn't sound like the gun is the issue in this instance.
It is absurd to compare the PC 9mm with a .556.
Why? They serve different purposes.
Collin Hennessy you answered your own question
Here to support a 2A brother putting out review content.
great video man! i really like that set up you have there with the form and contrast!
Its good for people in Kalifornia
I have the Kriss in .45. I'm definitely interested in this 9mm.
Tavor I have both you would like it alot. Ruger now makes one with an aluminum hand guard and it feels very nice in hand. I’m hoping they will sell it aftermarket.
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I own one of these and researched before buying it and found some flaws it has like cheaper steel parts that wear sooner then they should but there's a bunch of aftermarket parts like extractors and the like in an A2 tool steel for cheaps. Also the ejector tends to bend with people that own AR rifles because they have a habit of slamming the magazine in the magwell which bends it causing the ejector to catch on the bolt when firing and causes stove piping after about 1000 - 1500 rds out of the box. Overall I'm very happy with it and it rings the iron perfectly. I'm in my 50s and I'm not going to be running around shooting Communists in the jungle anytime soon so this is perfect for plinking outdoors and home defense.
We chronographed basic target "nothing special" 9mm at 1300 fps for an average and had about 1025 fps with the Canik TP9 SA handgun
Thanks for an honest review. That’s a nice change of pace. I’m still going to apply for a firearms license for one I Sweden were I live.
Over here all gun ownership is regulated and the semiautomatics are hard to get a license for. In my case I would apply for a hunting license for a 9mm PCC. The law stipulates that a hunting rifle must have at least a 18” barrel, if it’s a semi all types of folding and collapsing stocks are outlawed (if they produced that way in the factory) and the particular model may not have been issued as a military service weapon.
Almost all PCCs fall outside of those criteria’s. I would love to be able to buy a MP5 or Vector but it’s not an option to me we’re I live. The Ruger PCC is already taken Sweden buy storm, best to apply for a firearms license before they outlaw it.
It’s a shame that Sweden is such a restrictive country. Looks beautiful from everything I’ve seen.
The Ruger PCC has a 16.12 inch barrel.
They are shipping a Canadian model with an 18.5" barrel so there is hope for you.
Very soft shooting carbine with not much recoil. I was able to place 2-3” groups at 50 yards and had no feeding issues.
Just bought a PC Carbine last weekend.Its my new favorite power tool.
The front sight is removable because you can upgrade it. I put a Tandemkross fiberoptic on mine.
I've got some feedback on your review. First, the HK clone is a totally different gun than the PC9 and not a fair comparison. Then the magazine issue, I only buy Magpul mags for it and the 27 rounders are under $20. With running the Magpuls I have never had a malfunction and only shoot my reloads in a buffet of bullet weights and various powders.
one of the reasons this gun is attractive over something like a scorpion is because i live in CA where you can't have folding stocks or pistol grips without break action reloading
Very nice rifle. Looks fun and would be a step up for kids to get into semi autos. Self defense, plinker, Ranch rifle, etc. Looks like an overall use rifle. Even though I don’t think it be very popular I’m waiting for a bolt action 9mm.
good information to have I have really wanted one for a while good video
Glad I watched this! Had that Ruger in my cart until I remembered the scorpion Evo thanks...
Just got mine yesterday, first shot at 25 yards was right on the X. Shoots really accurate and I was using iron sights. Smooth gun, except magazine release kept sticking and dropping the mag during shooting.
Great review, answered the couple questions I had about them, thanks 👍
Thanks for watching!
Just a heads up, SB978 looks to be dead for now. They will of course be back next year.
Would love it in 40 SW. WHY just enjoy the caliber l along with 10mm. In a carbine 40SW Will be variable and close to 10mm in pistol on power factor nice Hog gun too.
Ppl put way too much weight behind the trigger reset. If u had to use that thing in a fight u would never use the reset
i've got a hi point 9mm carbine, wonder your thoughts on that. got it at a gun show for 249 new. i knew what i was getting into, which is it's a bit crude but goes bang every time.
i actually love it as a plinker with the redball 20 round mags. i have had one malfunction in i dunno, 300 rounds? it was early on, and could have been a misloaded mag, not worried about it. i slapped my trs 25 red dot on it which i got from amazon a couple years ago for a whopping 40 bucks, the total package is theoretically under 300 and i love shooting it, such a fun plinker. the trs 25 pairs really well with it being cheap, light and compact.
i thought about the pc 9 but it was twice as much (so, less of an impulse purchase). i dont like the boring styling of the pc9, and like you mentioned the heavy weight.
i was also looking at the beretta cx4, it seems very hard to find, maybe even discontinued, and is more towards the 700 dollar range.
now that you mention it i want a scorpion evo. they run expensive for my tastes at 900 dollars. however i mean i recently bought a $800 phone, so i guess i could spend that on a gun someday....
the main value of a 9mm carbine imo though is the cheap ammo, while giving you centerfire pop. i can get 100 rounds of green and white box type 9mm ammo at wal mart for 17-18 dollars. it's like halfway between .22lr and everything else in cost, makes great plinking round. for whatever reason i just dont enjoy shooting 22lr that much, it doesn't give me that pop and feel of a centerfire. yankee marshal mentioned not enjoying shooting 22 too so i know i'm not alone. i like shooting 22lr in my ruger wrangler because it's single action so it's inherently fun, that's about it.
I had a hi point 9mm carbine. Lots of fun toshoot. Dont let the haters get you down. Mine was a lot of fun very reliable and at a priceanyonecan afford.
Good review. I think they would have done better by making a non takedown model with a longer sight radius. or even better by ditching the traditional stock and making it chassis style so it can accept AR buffer tubes and grips. Sort of like a crazy Ivan 10/22 chassis. Then a HUGE aftermarket could eventually follow it like happened with the 10/22. Midwest Industries are you reading this?!?!?!
Agreed!
It’s called the RPR .22
Is the barrel tightening lug snug? If too loose, your groups suffer- at least that is true for a 10-22?
My only gripe about mine is the weight in front. If it could be just 6 ozs lighter there, I'd love it more. Fast handling can make a life or death difference.
Grip
I really love mine. I like the 10/22 style controls , it makes it easy for my wife to use. The traditional safety is easyer to use and know if its on or off. Ar style safety confuzes lots of people on its position.
American made PPSH-41 or papasha that takes Glock mags.
It does look cool with the Midwest industries rail ...
Congratulations for comparing an apple to an orange... 😆👍
If you want a 223 they make a mini14. You are comparing apples to oranges. This isn't supposed to compete with an AR. Also for home defense a 9mm is plenty, it's less loud, and there is less recoil. Disclaimer I don't own a 9mm carbine.
There’s more recoil from a blowback 9mm than a 5.56
When first came out I looked at it as a 9mm 10/22 it's about the same. But ruger did make a good Choice for bring it out do had long time ago in 44mag.
They just followed the 9mm up with the bigger brother in 40s&w kind please about that.
I bought a PC 9 a month ago. I cleaned it and went to the range. I shot 500 or so rounds with various hard ball brands winchester brass and winchester usa steel case, federal brass and maybe 25 rounds of blazer alum. I also shot a hoge poge of hollow point self defence ammo that I have collected over the last few years. I had zero malfunctions. All cycled perfectly. Groups at 50 yards were 3 inches consistently. I only used the SR9 magazine that came with the rifle, 17 rounds. I love it