Fatal Mistake That Killed 33 People | Crossair Flight 3597 | Mayday: Air Disaster

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
  • November 24th, 2001 - Making the routine one-hour journey from Berlin, Crossair Flight 3597 is on its final approach to Zurich. It‘s one of the last planes scheduled to land before the airport shuts down for the night. In the final minutes before landing, the crew is given a last minute runway change.
    What rule of flying did the pilot violate when approaching Zurich?
    Mayday: Air Disaster - From Season 10 Episode 1 "Cockpit Failure": Making a routine one-hour journey from Berlin, Crossair Flight #3597 is on its final approach to Zurich. It is one of the last planes scheduled to land before the airport shuts down for the night. But just minutes before landing the pilots cannot find the runway. They decide to abort the maneuver and apply full power to all four engines in order to get their jet to climb. But they are too late.
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  • @MaydayAirDisaster
    @MaydayAirDisaster  Год назад +30

    What rule of flying did the pilot violate when approaching Zurich?

    • @NMKnuckleHead
      @NMKnuckleHead Год назад +11

      The pilot failed to abort when he was at "decision time" and didn't have a visual on the airport. AKA he tried to land with visibility below the minimums.

    • @StevenOBrien
      @StevenOBrien 2 месяца назад +15

      Rule 1: Don't crash.

    • @daveatkins3796
      @daveatkins3796 2 месяца назад +10

      Going below MDA (Minimum Descent Altitude) without acquiring visual contact with the airport. The classic “duck under” syndrome. This is what happened with the Southern Airways flight that killed the Marshall Football Team. For Non-Precision Approaches, you descend to the Minimum Descent Altitude and you stay at that minimum until you either acquire visual contact with the airport environment or you go missed approach upon reaching the Missed Approach Point. If you somehow go below MDA without visually acquiring the airport/runway, you execute missed approach immediately. And there is no Decision Altitude for a Non-Precision approach. That’s for a Precision Approach such as an ILS. This is basic IFR flying.

    • @AviationShots._
      @AviationShots._ 2 месяца назад +3

      The crew continued their steep descent even below the MDA (minimum descent altitude), without acquiring visual sight of the runway.

    • @Simp_Zone
      @Simp_Zone Месяц назад

      @@StevenOBrien Damn I keep forgetting that. Must explain all the crashes.

  • @jacksonkuster3805
    @jacksonkuster3805 Год назад +205

    “The Passion Fruits may have saved our lives”
    A sentence I never though I would have heard in a air crash documentary

  • @imranyounis1970
    @imranyounis1970 Месяц назад +34

    It is easier to blame persons who are not alive to defend themselves. For me, the people who had noise complaints of airplanes and the authorities who passed the law to divert planes after 10:30 pm without installing ILS system at the airport, should equally be blamed for this air crash. They must be punished. 😢

    • @JohnTom-p1n
      @JohnTom-p1n Месяц назад +1

      @@imranyounis1970 Don't many airports lack ILS and do fine? You could also blame the airline, Wright brothers, etc.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 Месяц назад +1

      @@JohnTom-p1nthey had ILS just not on the runway they use after dark. That makes sense (not)

    • @ifrahabi4834
      @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

      True❤

    • @rachmunshine9474
      @rachmunshine9474 13 дней назад

      @@molybdomancer195 yeah, even before touching on the comments to see any of them I was saying it’s the same airport. How far away can it be? If there’s no ILS, and it’s dark They should have either put an ILS there or just allowed them to land on the safer runway. A few noise complaints versus what ended up happening. I’m not a pilot, but Maybe Another option would have been to very well light that runway. Enough so you can’t miss it. I mean, if it was foggy enough to miss many lights, then they probably wouldn’t be landing there anyway, the flight ✈️ would be diverted. 😢

    • @Inquisite1031
      @Inquisite1031 3 дня назад

      @@rachmunshine9474 a pilot not being able to land without ILS is equivalent to an engineer who cant do math calculations without a calculator, ILS is not a requirement for landing never was and never will be, the pilots mishandled procedures, I understand people like blaming the govt or authority in general but this was pilot error, plain and simple.

  • @alejandroalejo3302
    @alejandroalejo3302 Год назад +250

    I know it's definitely a good thing that there aren't more episodes out there of these deadly plane crashes, but me being selfish wishing there were new ones as I've watched just about every episode 5x or more 🤦

    • @dexterpoindexter3583
      @dexterpoindexter3583 Год назад

      @Alejandro Alejo Train crashes will addict you just as easily. And there are several from the days before the Wright Brothers.

    • @TheOriginalCFA1979
      @TheOriginalCFA1979 Год назад +25

      There’s no shortage of crashes they could cover.

    • @AellaWW
      @AellaWW Год назад +11

      I tend to forget em fast and using as background noice

    • @Lynn-zx3th
      @Lynn-zx3th Год назад +7

      I feel ya, I’m the same way with climbing Mt. Everest.

    • @dexterpoindexter3583
      @dexterpoindexter3583 Год назад +6

      @@Lynn-zx3th Isn't it about one in ten Everest climbers who never come home? And they pay tens of thousands ($) each for their chance to beat the odds.
      How many plane passengers would *ever* go that far!
      But I hear ya; Everest documentaries are gripping. Will never, ever forget Rob Hall... how even the best can lose their sound judgment in thin air & under pressure.

  • @wizzardofpaws2420
    @wizzardofpaws2420 Год назад +102

    Also killed was Melanie Thornton, the 90s hit group La Bouche. She was just about to hit superstardom. RIP to Melanie and everyone who died.

    • @esjihn
      @esjihn Год назад +11

      She would have been a huge success for sure. Loved her voice. She could have easily left dance and sung whatever genre she wanted.

    • @patriot9455
      @patriot9455 Год назад +4

      so many musicians die and will continue in the rush to stardom, some in aircraft, others on the ground. Dreams can be dangerous, but big dreams can worth the risk.

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Год назад +3

      I didn't know that

    • @Mommy55555
      @Mommy55555 Год назад +1

      Kinda wild that we remember la Bouche more than the passion fruits, even though they were more famous back then? I love la Bouche 😔

    • @sheyanderson9498
      @sheyanderson9498 Год назад +1

      Loved her song "Be My Lover"

  • @sbolden123
    @sbolden123 Год назад +90

    The supervisor should have stayed until all planes were landed. ✈️ That's a sign of a good supervisor. Last one out, first one in.

    • @dan3162
      @dan3162 Год назад +28

      Honestly, I think every airport should always have two people on duty, just to manage telephones, flights, emergencies and bathroom breaks.

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Год назад +3

      Yes

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 Год назад +8

      @@dan3162 yeah definitely. There is a huge safety need there. I worked at mcdonalds and I closed the store alone when I was 16..I didnt know that was illegal until I was an adult. Airlines ..They wont do anything unless forced though.

    • @jimbim1623
      @jimbim1623 24 дня назад +1

      @@dana102083 Thanks for your input. Directing flights and being in charge of lives of thousands is definitely comparable to burgers.

  • @calcrappie8507
    @calcrappie8507 Год назад +111

    Didn't notice they were in Italy until the passengers reported the road signs were in Italian. Wow.

  • @DEADisBEAUTIFUL
    @DEADisBEAUTIFUL Год назад +18

    It was adorable listening to Peter Hogenkamp lightly teasing that he didn’t need the Passion Fruits keeping him awake. I’m happy that he seems to have dealt with having gone through a plane crash in such a good way. I’d never be able to joke, even as lightly as he did in this video, ever again most likely.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +2

      WTF do You have on your head?!

  • @k9policexj
    @k9policexj Год назад +60

    Cpt. Lutz seems pretty arrogant and difficult to work with...

    • @constitutionalli7522
      @constitutionalli7522 Год назад +2

      Condescending tool

    • @k9policexj
      @k9policexj Год назад

      @R A I don't believe in false prophets like God.

    • @ifrahabi4834
      @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

      True, the younger pilots was already feeling uncomfortable.

    • @woodenseagull1899
      @woodenseagull1899 25 дней назад

      As it is an English plane, is it a right hand drive?

  • @paulrobinson5523
    @paulrobinson5523 Год назад +27

    How that captain achieved his bars is genuine mystery.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm pretty sure that he has bought them

  • @paulis7319
    @paulis7319 Год назад +107

    Ever since the day I started flight training in 2001, I was aghast at noise abatement procedures. Having airplanes fly unconventionally because some people don’t like the noise is a recipe for disaster, and as a retired pilot I still stand by that statement.

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Год назад +1

      @Jay Talents think about what you said/typed next time you jump over a mud puddle.

    • @Tbt19-110
      @Tbt19-110 Год назад +17

      Reminds me of the people that complain trains make too much noise blowing their horns at crossings

    • @SP-io7lj
      @SP-io7lj Год назад +7

      You're focused on the WRONG thing! *Having pilots who are unqualified is a recipe for disaster!* More people have died from THAT than ever died because a pilot had to land on a different runway or divert to a different airport due to noise abatement! Focus on the bigger issue and not the issue that isn't an issue. If Pilot Lutz knew how to fly, he would still be alive!

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Год назад +10

      @@SP-io7lj I’m a retired pilot. Unfortunately, aviation is ruled by money, and a cheap pilot will always be hired before a good pilot. When the standards are too high for cheap pilots, the standards are lowered.

    • @Patco11
      @Patco11 Год назад +5

      I agree if you purchase home in a known flight path area. I can understand if out of the blue they changed and planes now fly low overhead where they previously did not.

  • @lmachain1
    @lmachain1 Месяц назад +5

    I live by LAX for over 20 years. “Noise pollution” is bullshit.
    1. Wtf you expect when you willingly chose to live by an airport?
    2. “Noise pollution” isn’t that noticeable and eventually just falls to the background. People just want to complain.

    • @FamilyTheatre-gk6cq
      @FamilyTheatre-gk6cq Месяц назад +1

      Exactly !

    • @quilmesdave
      @quilmesdave 14 дней назад

      Remember the sign that stood there, for a long time? Then they covered it. I used to live in El Segundo, and planes, never bother me, one bit!

  • @benhuston310
    @benhuston310 2 месяца назад +100

    Noise complaints. And all because people who decided to live next to an airport were, and still are, shocked that there are, of all things, PLANES at the airport.

    • @bobisonline
      @bobisonline 2 месяца назад +2

      There is a similar situation near FLL in Dania / Ft Lauderdale FL, as the airport has been there for decades as it was a military field originally. There are canal front homes on the south side of the airport and there are numerous complaints about the noise.

    • @InspektoraDeFrutas
      @InspektoraDeFrutas 2 месяца назад +2

      Seriously!!! 🥴🙄🙄

    • @elavestruzfalopero8202
      @elavestruzfalopero8202 Месяц назад +2

      Couldn’t agree more… you buy a property near the airport probably because it’s cheaper, but the reason it’s cheaper is because you have to live with the noises of the airplanes… you cannot double dip…

    • @warron24
      @warron24 Месяц назад +4

      This is such a bizarre take to me. Lutz wasn't expected to do anything crazy, just use a different approach. It's the bare minimum we expect from pilots.
      I don't see anything wrong with wanting an airport to be a good neighbor and not fly planes low over major cities at night. Instead of the airport having to adjust its procedures everyone else just needs to adjust to the airport? Just so pilots don't have to fly a different approach?

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk Месяц назад

      @@warron24 to answer both of your questions: Yes and Yes. 😊
      Lol Don’t live by an airport if you don’t want to hear PLANES overhead! 🙄🙄

  • @mattp4079
    @mattp4079 Год назад +31

    Flight 3407 that crashed in Buffalo, NY is another example of lack of training and pilot incompetence on a regional airline; Renslow didnt know how to de-ice the wings. All 50 souls aboard died, and one man on the ground. Damn you Cptn Lutz .

    • @ChokeslamToHell
      @ChokeslamToHell Год назад +5

      That wasn’t iced wings, it was pilot error. They set an alarm to warn them when they were reaching a certain speed, forgot, then panicked when it went off, climbing and causing a stall.

  • @worrierqueen5695
    @worrierqueen5695 2 месяца назад +20

    Jonathan Aris is the greatest narrator in history.

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk Месяц назад

      I fall asleep to these episodes every night lol

  • @TMPSpodcast
    @TMPSpodcast Год назад +16

    Next time I fly, I’m going to ask if my pilot has limited abilities

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +1

      In addition, ask him about his credit score

    • @ifrahabi4834
      @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

      Kkkkkk❤❤

  • @SilverSnowstorm
    @SilverSnowstorm 3 месяца назад +17

    If that happened to me and I got out and survived. I don’t think I could fly again, or it would take a long time to get over. So sad that the crew and passengers went through something horrific like this. It was an awful year for aviation, I know they mentioned the German girl group Passion Fruit, maybe they didn’t mention Melanie Thornton name because her family and friends wanted privacy from this documentary. I can’t believe that 24 people died and 9 survived. May those who died R.I.P and those who survived are ok. I couldn’t imagine being in something like this so traumatic.

    • @lionesshuntress
      @lionesshuntress 2 месяца назад

      @@SilverSnowstorm But plane crashes are a rare occurrence, and it can be due to engineering faults.

  • @josetercero5143
    @josetercero5143 Год назад +28

    After watching many of these episode and listening that ALL the CREW were experienced and top trained pilots with 3 million hours of flight and instructor … I guess my next flight will be with a regular normal pilot 😂😅😮

    • @SP-io7lj
      @SP-io7lj Год назад +4

      LMAO! In this case, the guy was NOT experienced! He had failed check flights multiple times! He should never have been allowed to fly!

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Год назад +1

      Yeah I don't fly any regional or discount airlines

  • @saltamonte777
    @saltamonte777 2 месяца назад +10

    Flying is so procedural, it’s hard to understand how the captain could have made such a mistake, but I guess his CV explains it. The FO also not speaking up, a major mistake. When it comes to lives, hierarchy goes out of the window.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 Месяц назад +1

      The hierarchy of flight crew has been a factor in many accidents. That is why the CRM system was introduced. It gives junior crew members the authority to countermand the pilot if they see the pilot making a mistake.

  • @annieworroll4373
    @annieworroll4373 Год назад +20

    Questionable competence to that degree and they not only hired him, and kept him on staff, but made him a Captain?

  • @dan3162
    @dan3162 Год назад +28

    When you hire subpar, retain problem employees and don’t hold people accountable, this happens. All the red flags were there with Capt Lutz, but as many examples in the past, until they crash they continue to fly.

    • @k9policexj
      @k9policexj Год назад

      Airline union might have been able to keep him in his position?

  • @cockpitdrummer
    @cockpitdrummer 2 месяца назад +6

    A good lesson in 'ignore the whinging locals' particularly when operational safety protocols are not in place.

  • @shadowalastor2971
    @shadowalastor2971 Год назад +14

    this is the best series on youtube to date

  • @dezperado2006
    @dezperado2006 Год назад +14

    My question is why didn't the pilots receive the automated "PULL UP TERRAIN PULL UP TERRAIN" alarm?

    • @dan3162
      @dan3162 Год назад +24

      Because in landing configuration this is disabled.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +2

      Captain hit the snooze button

  • @deluxewaterless7229
    @deluxewaterless7229 Месяц назад +2

    Major mistakes that could have been avoided were made with lots of lives lost. RIP to all those that died

  • @Geronimo2Fly
    @Geronimo2Fly 2 месяца назад +4

    If only the first officer had been warned about the captain's incompetence. He might've been more willing to speak up. I'm also wondering, when a pilot transmits that they're descending to land and they're still miles away from the airport, why doesn't the ATC say, "You know you're still four miles away right?"

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад +1

    First officer surprised and knew the captain was making mistakes, you can see the expression of his face, ❤especially when he said we are continuing on. But never reacted.

  • @Revikra
    @Revikra 6 месяцев назад +4

    I've worked with people close to retirement in my line of work and I have learned quickly that time and experience alone do not lead to expertise, let alone competence. I've flat out asked "you've done this for 40 years and you don't know how to do XYZ?" This reinforced in me the saying no matter what profession it is, 9 out of 10 people are hacks"

  • @jalilmuhammad8270
    @jalilmuhammad8270 Год назад +7

    Melanie Thornton died in this crash!😢

  • @Momma_Tomma
    @Momma_Tomma Год назад +11

    Title says 33 people died, the documentary states multiple times, it was 24. Where did the other 9 come from?

    • @johnman8554
      @johnman8554 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Momma_Tomma from the ground maybe they had party in the woods naked during fog, it was custom for that area

    • @RocketRoketto
      @RocketRoketto 2 месяца назад +5

      There were 33 total and 24 died

    • @skyhigh1154
      @skyhigh1154 2 месяца назад +5

      Those were illigals hidden in the wheelwell

  • @sbolden123
    @sbolden123 Год назад +10

    Fire him as an instructor but he was able to keep flying 🤦❌👎😂

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +2

      Yup. Where is the problem? He was to dumb to teach, but he was able to fly perf....ooooohhhhhh

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад +2

    This is the final investigation report of this flight.
    The final report of the AAIB states that other factors also contributed to the accident:
    The range of hills the plane crashed into was not marked in the Jeppesen approach chart used by the crew.[2]: 13 
    Despite the hilly terrain surrounding it, the approach to runway 28 was not equipped with a Minimum Safe Altitude Warning (MSAW) system, which triggers an alarm if a minimum safe altitude is violated.[2]: 13 
    Zürich Airport's means of determining visibility were inadequate for runway 28.[2]: 13 
    The visual minimums at the time of the accident were actually inappropriate for using the standard approach to runway 28.[2]: 13 
    An inexperienced air traffic controller was alone in the control tower. A more experienced controller might have allowed the flight to land on runway 14 because of the poor weather conditions.[8
    The report say that, Pilot Lutz, did a lot of mistakes in the past, but continued with his flight because of luck of Qualified pilots. I don’t want to be harsh on him. But that’s is the report I read . ❤❤❤❤

  • @xavierpaololedesmamandreza
    @xavierpaololedesmamandreza 12 дней назад +1

    Experience and Seasonality have one common enemy: COMPLACENCE. Trust me.

  • @dirtyshirtinfo
    @dirtyshirtinfo Год назад +8

    Well, he Lutzed that up.

  • @13SarcasticCats
    @13SarcasticCats Год назад +6

    Im afraid ruling out pilot error so early, and for lack of reasons, was dumb.

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад +1

    He was trusting to much but very uncomfortable. But The pilot was like a bit show off, or giving himself to much confidence.

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t know for a reason , when I saw the last second controller leaving, I didn’t felt ok. When the one lady remained.

  • @yours2injesus2
    @yours2injesus2 Месяц назад +3

    HOW SAD

  • @Justice-ef9sk
    @Justice-ef9sk Месяц назад +1

    “The passion fruits saved my life…” 😂😂

  • @janeshnijhawan8884
    @janeshnijhawan8884 2 месяца назад +4

    You can blame pilots to some extent but why senoir air traffic supervisor leave the control room on young woman at last moment when weather was rough

  • @finders-keepers1518
    @finders-keepers1518 Год назад +12

    I like the way he says shed-duale.

    • @dexterpoindexter3583
      @dexterpoindexter3583 Год назад +4

      @Finders-Keepers Whenever he heard that pronunciation, my dad (RCAF as a very young man) would say quietly & with a measured touch of scorn, "where'd they learn *that* ? In shool?"
      One of the things we loved about him.

    • @KingTriton1837
      @KingTriton1837 Год назад +4

      Reminds me of people who say "maTOOR" instead of "mature". Lol.

    • @dexterpoindexter3583
      @dexterpoindexter3583 Год назад

      @@KingTriton1837 Uh-oh... now you've opened the floodgates! People (from anywhere at all) who say Muntreeal for Montreal. & Aks for ask. & Plug for outlet!

    • @amyparker9816
      @amyparker9816 Год назад +6

      @@dexterpoindexter3583 OMG!!! You mean to tell me that people from different places say things differently???? Who would have thought!!!!

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, it made me wet too

  • @riogrande5761
    @riogrande5761 Год назад +6

    So it was the fault of the company he worked for for hiring a pilot with bad skills and red flags.

  • @donaldallen1771
    @donaldallen1771 11 дней назад

    The captain of the Colgan Air flight, like Lutz, had a very spotty training record with multiple failures. They were not disclosed by him to Colgan and they didn't check.

  • @Lisa-vd5vu
    @Lisa-vd5vu Месяц назад +4

    No mistake killed those people. Noise rules killed those people.

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk Месяц назад +1

      Yep! It really blows my mind that these people that decided to live next to an airport, had the audacity to complain about the noise of the planes! Tf??

  • @Russman520
    @Russman520 Месяц назад +2

    The pilot was ultimately responsible. Due to ego, ignoring his FO, norms overriding proper checklist procedures,
    THIS should have never happened. Experience is one of the biggest contributors for not considering that the situation is different than what you are used to, and making a huge error

  • @robertcavalier6133
    @robertcavalier6133 Месяц назад +2

    Am I the only adult who thinks there MUST be a solution to this IDIOCY?! * Former Intl. Airport Limo Driver Cav in CA. *

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад +2

    Why are they checking now. They should alway check when someone applies for job. How can you trust someone with millions of people are the world with no full education of the job he applied for.

  • @cureforintroversion1262
    @cureforintroversion1262 Месяц назад +1

    I didn’t realise that she wasn’t part of the girl band but there was another singer on board who was also killed. Melanie Thornton.

  • @Ruthsmithology
    @Ruthsmithology 2 месяца назад +5

    Condolences to the families.😢

  • @hamentaschen
    @hamentaschen Год назад +8

    "I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."

  • @driver_7283
    @driver_7283 Месяц назад

    I grew up living right by an airport before they somehow made the engines quieter and I honestly miss it. I miss the sound of the engines spinning up as they take off and the super loud sound when they would land. Especially when laying in bed. It was the perfect sound. Still live by the same airport but I don't hear the planes anymore 😭

  • @kilcar
    @kilcar 26 дней назад +1

    I never understood the people who complain about aircraft noise after moving into the vicinity of an airport. I've lived under the approach of aircraft at work 8 hours day, and at home under an approach . I've learned to tune it out. The complainers in Germany can be smug satisfied they were at least partially responsible for the fatalities because of their Teutonic arrogance

  • @maagu4779
    @maagu4779 Год назад +7

    No mentioned ever made regarding the maintenance done regarding the upsidedown dial. Any investigation performed their?

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +1

      They concluded that the mechanic was installing gauge, standing on his arms, because of a dare

  • @marilynh.
    @marilynh. 2 месяца назад +3

    Can you imagine being the relatives of these incompetent sub-standard pilots who cause these airplanes to crash (pilot error) 100% killing hugh numbers of passengers?
    The shame and guilt they must feel must be a burden.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад

      I think they don't give even one F

  • @banquorebuechett9914
    @banquorebuechett9914 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the way they add polystyrene to the box carrying the flight recorder.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад

      Do you have any other fetishes?

  • @gerovilvillaluz7382
    @gerovilvillaluz7382 18 дней назад

    Landing a plane not seeing the runway is like playing darts blindfolded. Failing to hit the bull's eye is game over. The difference is, flying a plane with lives in your hand is not a game.

  • @violagentsch
    @violagentsch Год назад +3

    Plane came down so hard it went from 24 to 33 ppl killed

    • @RocketRoketto
      @RocketRoketto 2 месяца назад +2

      There were 33 total on the plane but 24 died.

  • @tytan7772
    @tytan7772 Месяц назад +1

    I'm really sad because of second pilot 😢

  • @ДиманВ-м2н
    @ДиманВ-м2н 2 дня назад

    RIP Melanie Thornton and Passion Fruit.

  • @floridaray3380
    @floridaray3380 Год назад +12

    What is worse? Being by the Passion Fruits or the arrogant bourgeoisie internet guy...

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад

      Bourgeoisie.
      Just because I have no idea what that means

  • @StefaniClowdis
    @StefaniClowdis 2 месяца назад +3

    No testing before hiring?

  • @sdm715
    @sdm715 Месяц назад +1

    Poor first officer

    • @FamilyTheatre-gk6cq
      @FamilyTheatre-gk6cq Месяц назад +1

      Was thinking the same💔 it’s like he knew something was wrong about to happen 💔💔he was so young

  • @ThunderClawShocktrix
    @ThunderClawShocktrix Год назад +6

    outrageous that they didn't upgrade the runway 28 landing system beofore agreeing to do the shut off at 10 pm of runway 14 but more ourragions that these noise abatmprocues trump plane and passanger safety

    • @amyparker9816
      @amyparker9816 Год назад +1

      @Cottonheaded Ninnymuggins That's a rather sweeping generalization.

  • @juliemanarin4127
    @juliemanarin4127 Год назад +1

    Those 21 people sure dodged a bullet...sad tragedy.

  • @asimally9468
    @asimally9468 Месяц назад +1

    HE WAS A TIME BOMB EVENTUALLY BLAST... HIS RECORD WAS A DISASTER ... POOR 24 SOULS ...

  • @jayrandolph9328
    @jayrandolph9328 7 месяцев назад

    Imagine a manufacturer so inept that their aircraft is able to retract its landing gear while on the ground.

  • @josephoneil3093
    @josephoneil3093 Год назад +5

    For noise reasons? Do you get fined for sneezing after sunset in Germany? Nice one Germany 🙄

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +3

      Pathological, police county.
      There are many examples like that.
      People there have rules in exchange of brains

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

    This is the final investigation report of this flight.
    The final report of the AAIB states that other factors also contributed to the accident:
    The range of hills the plane crashed into was not marked in the Jeppesen approach chart used by the crew.[2]: 13 
    Despite the hilly terrain surrounding it, the approach to runway 28 was not equipped with a Minimum Safe Altitude Warning (MSAW) system, which triggers an alarm if a minimum safe altitude is violated.[2]: 13 
    Zürich Airport's means of determining visibility were inadequate for runway 28.[2]: 13 
    The visual minimums at the time of the accident were actually inappropriate for using the standard approach to runway 28.[2]: 13 
    An inexperienced air traffic controller was alone in the control tower. A more experienced controller might have allowed the flight to land on runway 14 because of the poor weather conditions.[8

  • @questionablebackyardmeows
    @questionablebackyardmeows Год назад +2

    Well, he indeed had ground contact... into the ground.

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад

      I see what You did there. Clever. Funny. Yeah...

  • @ivanstepanovic1327
    @ivanstepanovic1327 27 дней назад +1

    Wasn't there another, even worse crash due to Zurich flight control being understaffed? A Russian plane full of children and a Dutch cargo plane?

  • @sbolden123
    @sbolden123 Год назад +4

    That's the airlines fault. The chickens came home to roost 😞

  • @malcolmclements9254
    @malcolmclements9254 2 месяца назад +1

    The Captain had skeletons in the cupboard.

  • @colspiracy8326
    @colspiracy8326 5 дней назад

    I thought the cardinal rule of flying was not to crash.

  • @grundged
    @grundged 2 месяца назад +1

    He raised the landing gear on the ground? 😮😅

  • @tinarobbins4264
    @tinarobbins4264 Год назад +7

    That Peter guy- I’ve never heard someone whine and complain so much about SURVIVING an airplane crash!!!

  • @mariuszpelczar4311
    @mariuszpelczar4311 4 дня назад

    Why didn’t the first officer know that the captain had made these mistakes?

  • @alarahillton1343
    @alarahillton1343 2 месяца назад +1

    When will they ever learn?

  • @semperoccultus
    @semperoccultus Месяц назад

    The captain LUTZ, dismiss to fly after 7 different accident. Incluse many verbal warning from crossair and authority. Look wikipedia about captain lutz. its incredible why dont stop fly 3 years before this crash. Incredible.

  • @sandreawhite7534
    @sandreawhite7534 2 месяца назад +1

    Tragic

  • @mariuszpelczar4311
    @mariuszpelczar4311 4 дня назад

    Who allowed unqualified man to fly the plane??????

  • @drunkdadchronicles
    @drunkdadchronicles Месяц назад +1

    Lutz was a Klutz🤦‍♂

  • @edzebrowski4445
    @edzebrowski4445 Год назад +3

    The title says 33 killed, but it was less right?

  • @francesvincent793
    @francesvincent793 22 дня назад

    WHY DON'T THEY have 2 spot lights on the front foo the plane????????????????

  • @marksmith8079
    @marksmith8079 2 месяца назад

    An runway does not define how a plane has to fly.. If Germans wanted to have no overflies then they could have an exclusion area and still allow landing on any runway- it just makes the navigation and management of the approach more complicatated. Plenty of airports have complicated approach patterns.

    • @christiankolinski1563
      @christiankolinski1563 2 месяца назад

      Germany does not dictate directly which runway in ZRH to use. There is "just" a minimum flight limit of 12'000ft after 2100h while over Germany. The moment the flight crosses the border, that's done. So ZRH airport if free to use any runway as long as the flight looses the altitude over Swiss territory.
      But the problem preventing that is NIMBY - the "rich" parts of Zurich don't like noise. Neither do the other "Kantone" (read as "Staates", Switzerland is a federal republic) that would be affected like Thurgau and Aargau. Having a convenient airport is nice, having the tax windfall of it too... but the noise fallout should be left on the other side of the border - and for reference, before the topic escalated in the early 2000s 90% of the approaches to ZRH took the "German" route. Especially at night to get the noise out of Zurich. So the Swiss themselves blocked some of the more sensible arrival patterns. This is what lead to runway 14 to be taken out of service. There was and is no (by Switzerland!) approved way to get there other than loosing height over Germany. And as pointed out - there was and is a exception to the height limit for especially bad weather, and for emergencies it's off the table anyway. A Mayday flight does not have to care about it. Which happens several times a year, mostly due to medical emergencies.
      While I don't work for the Airport, I work for a company located at the airport, and I have direct view onto the start of RW28 and along RW14/32. And there are night landings at RW14 from time to time.
      The airport is fighting since decades now to get permission to get better / more variable takeoff and approach patterns. Like the "curved approach" for ILS precision approaches to runway 14 (3300m so suitable for heavy and superheavy - like the A380 from Emirates which lands in ZH, and no runway intersection, the longest would be 16/34@3600, but that crosses runway 28) at night without crossing the border below FL120.
      There's a Video (in German only unfortunately) from the Flughafen Zürich AG detailing some of the improved - and still not approved - patterns: "Betriebskonzepte Flughafen Zürich AG".
      There was a bilateral agreement draft that would have relaxed the situation a bit - trading in some of the daytime approaches over Germany for allowing limited numbers of night landings - but it was the Swiss government that voted against it.

  • @EBLLC
    @EBLLC Год назад +3

    I can see why that sorry company was forced out of business! Hope they lost millions of dollars! Hope that air traffic controller’s supervisor got fired, too, for leaving early!

  • @Oriana_leung
    @Oriana_leung 2 месяца назад

    4:00 jeeez... 26:45 Right. 17:20 TAT. 21:10 F. 35:00 He is pressured by him.

  • @zainzaidi9819
    @zainzaidi9819 2 месяца назад +1

    & my boss yells at me if I don't record the sales right

  • @tomdipasquale9633
    @tomdipasquale9633 Год назад +1

    Smug captain killed those people!! Should never have been a pilot!!

  • @ohioguy215
    @ohioguy215 Год назад +3

    This is Capt Lutz.......I've just made GROUND CONTACTTTTTT.....

  • @iratashman7202
    @iratashman7202 Год назад +4

    What happened to air traffic control supervisor who left early? The Union probably protected him

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Год назад

      Or promoted him...

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 Год назад +2

      But he probably thought about ATC Peter Nielsen who was blamed by a husband/father fo the loss of his family in the Uberlingen mid-air collision and hunted down & murdered in front of his wife & children. (The killer was hailed a nat'l hero & after being given a reprieve, awarded a cushy job w/the govt). RIP Peter Nielsen.🌹❤

    • @iamgroot4080
      @iamgroot4080 2 месяца назад +1

      He got diarrhea one time.
      So... Everything balanced out

  • @pioneercynthia1
    @pioneercynthia1 Месяц назад +1

    It always blows my mind when the distance across an entire European country is usually less than two hours.

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

    How inconsiderate. An adult misbehaving and making people uncomfortable. I don’t understand this. I came from Africa leaving in Uk. Our 13, 14 years old are more mature than 28 years old in abroad,

  • @ifrahabi4834
    @ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад

    The Airline get millions of money from their customers but still employ unqualified pilots. I know it not always pilot fault. There are Some pilot who are heroes. Even though qualified or no Qualified, ❤❤❤❤no pilot wants to endanger their life and customers safety.

  • @Belzediel
    @Belzediel 2 месяца назад

    Um, shouldn't the title of this be "Fatal Mistake That Killed 24 People | Crossair Flight 3597 | Mayday: Air Disaster" because, you know, that's how many people died...

  • @bobisonline
    @bobisonline 2 месяца назад +2

    Captain Lutz appears to be a pompous ass!

  • @keithfaulk1354
    @keithfaulk1354 Год назад +3

    That’s a terrible thing but there’s always a chance of crashing even though we don’t want to think it will happen to us!

  • @briskstevens8604
    @briskstevens8604 Год назад +5

    Title check. 24 of 33 died.

  • @h.e.a311
    @h.e.a311 2 месяца назад +2

    they did not believe the woman,

  • @Ruthsmithology
    @Ruthsmithology 2 месяца назад

    This is a prime example when education would have superseded many years of experience.

  • @_Shadoh_
    @_Shadoh_ 2 месяца назад

    Video title is incorrect if 24 people were killed like is said in the video.

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk Месяц назад

      Yeah, I caught that too! 🤷‍♀️
      Looks like the editor of this episode didn’t though lol