Fun fact. One passanger on this flight went out to the road and called a taxi and went back to Arlanda and booked a new ticket for the next flight to Copenhagen.
probably a dane. we can only stay in sweden for so long before we NEED to get out of that place :) like it's sweden what else is there to do then get away as fast as possible this is a joke, danes and swedes are allowed to make those jokes about each other
@@swedenisthemotherland3952 yep, go hide from our well fed armies in your deep dark woods like the old days denmark failed its campaigns in sweden during the Kalmar wars cause we couldn't get any food in Sweden. among other problems... even though it wasn't the reason i like to that we had food standards swedish cuisine simply couldn't meet like you only have so much nature and forest because people don't live there, will denmark have people everywhere. get livable land on a serious note though, i have always envied sweden, norway and finlands magestig and abundant natural beauty
@@temper44 how dare you keep those poor danes imprisoned in swedish occupied scania there true home is under Denmark, not under swedish occupation, you have given them stockholm syndrome (vary fitting name), they don't really love you, give them back!!! you can keep Gotland, TBH we don't really want it, but poor Scania give it back, they have lived in sweden for far too long
I think it was brave of him to admit that he would never be 100% again as a Pilot and chose to retire. He knew that other peoples lives depended upon it and he didn’t let his ego or love of flying prevent that.
@@StopWhining491 I think it's more like, he won't be able to fly without this event in the back of his mind, and that'd probably effect his judgement negatively.
@@StopWhining491 True he did everything right to prevent the accident it was proven and he know he did the right thing. Hes trust in the aircraft systems is what made him turn in hes wings. From hes explination what i belive is the real reson why he stept away is the fact that if hes in a situation again where system warnings start to happen he will question himself if they are 100% real or if there once again is some system at play that he dosent know about. They briefly mentioned hes time after the crash in the simulator and it looked like he panicked abit even if it was just 1 short clip. He lost confident in hes plane to do what he asked of it and when your responsable for 10,000´s of lifes over a long career thats not good for safety. Hes example with the car turning the other way is a good example. If u started to question if your own car could at any point invert the stearing without u knowing it, would u still drive that car daily on the highway?
Can we just say that the captain is a hero, not just for saving the plane the best he could but also for knowing it was best for everyone that he walk away from flying. I can't think of anything more selfless.
Can we just agree to stop posting comments starting with "can we just..."? Let each and everyone speak for themselves - it's very annoying with those comments posted by someone acting like they are a world conscious.
He didn't walk away from flying because it "was the best for everyone", he walked away because he couldn't trust the planes anymore. It's not his fault the plane crashed, it's the fault of the operators for not informing the pilots of any new systems and educating them on them. He lost complete trust in how things are done.
@@SailorYuki "Taking that decision to leave aviation as pilot was like having your highest love and coming to conclusion that you have to (end it). I had many hours, many missions of happiness in an aircraft. I love my passengers a lot. I love my aircraft so much so I said 'that's it.'"
The real hero was not the captain, but the pilot that was seated as a passenger, Per Holmberg. He realised that cpt Rasmussen was frozen and didn't take the necessarey actions(s). So Per stepped in and guided the pilots on how to respond and act, basically.
Wow! I never knew that. Good for him. It breaks my heart to know that he ended his aviation career on a depressing note, but at least he's found a new passion. And most importantly, he and all of his crew and passengers survived this incident.
One of the best episodes I’ve seen. The captain is the truest example of responsible airman. Knows he’s lost confidence in the c airframe and puts his responsibilities first and steps down. I’m sorry it came to this and I’m glad he has happy memories too. I’m all walks of life we could learn from him. Set aside the ego and do what is right. Not everyone could be as honest with themselves.
I think the entire Mayday Air Disaster is tedious to watch, overdramatized and made for people with extremely short attention span. All you remember at the end is that everything was extremely critical, extremely high-powered, extremely precarious and extremely important. And the narrator is just seething through the episode and maybe his entire career.
You know, it’s great that no one died in this accident. However, it is also sad because the pilot (who was not ultimately to blame for the incident) had to give up the thing he loved doing. But you also have to respect him for making that decision because if he didn’t feel like he could trust the aircraft (or possibly himself), then it could prove to potentially be life saving (in a way) in the future.
I’ve never seen this one before. I thought I’d seen them all. I’m so glad that everyone was okay, it must have been terrifying. Kudos to the captain for standing down when he realised he was never going to be the same again. I hope he found another passion to pursue in life.
I'm so happy to hear that. I still remember the miracle very well. 😺 Without this captain and crew the ending could have been totally horrific. I still think of the happy outcome now and then. Not many people get a second life.
@@hood_TheJoker im not that sure about that. I seen quite a few cases. But its usually just true for fairly old planes. The reason is really simple. Bow planes are simply to sturdy, so if they break up the G forces are simpky really really high. Really if we look at moste cases where there been so to say really hard emegancy landings what killed the most peopöe was fire. There is some example of planes breaking up saved lifes.
@@mightypen369 Because on a MD80 all the fuel is in the wings, and if there is no wings, there is also no fuel. And if there is no fuel, there is no fire.
@@fortnitetrashcan8308 The seats have quite a lot of flame retardant in them. And they are pretty hard to catch fire even if they didn´t have it. There need to be some original source of fire to make the interior catch fire. So for the interior to both catch fire and spreed decently fast, there need to be a ample fuel source that is airated. And that really only happen if there is fuel around. This for example can be compared to the A350 that crashed in Japan a few month back. (Japan Airlines Flight 516). While the fire was very hard to put out, it took a very lone time (like a hour) for it to totally spreed to the interior. By that point, the passengers was not only out of the plane, but already at the hospital.
Yeah, that's correct. I am born early 92. My great grandmother lived in Gottröra, just minutes away from the accident. She told me so many stories about this miracle when i was a kid.
Reminds me so much of the Miracle on the Hudson crash, and survival! I keep that photo of all the survivors standing on the wings waiting for rescue, on the Hudson River on my screensaver. It reminds me of Jesus walking on the water. And the plane looks like a cross, with the big rudder and 2 wings....God is good. Maranatha!
I had completely forgot about this tragedy, partly because I was really young back then, but also because these brave and smart pilots managed to land so well that everyone survived! They are the pilots you wish to have every flight!
How many pilots have landed a plane that size without engines where everyone survived? pilots landed that brick and lived to tell the story! Captain and the crew are heroes!
Totally understand the position the captain. He did a heroic job and didn’t lose a single passenger - great move on which to end one’s career. It’s unfortunate that he loves flying this much but as he said himself he had his great moments to think about.
I know Stefan Gydegaard Rasmussen, he lives and is well here in Denmark in a town called Holbæk. He plays in a Jazz band (Futti-Production) 😊 He is one of the nicest people
Much is probably due to the fact that the jet fuel was minus 20 degrees and that there was a lot of snow, if it had leaked a little, the snow would absorb it. Then the plane had no power that could short circuit.
Good job Captain, your amazing. You did everything right and everyone lived through that dangerous situation. I applaud you and the way you handled yourself. It was some computer programmer that took away your ability for you to save the airplane and that problem should be rectified. That computer should not have taken your control away from you since you where doing what was necessary to answer to the situation. Praise God for a wonderful outcome to what surely could have been a real tragedy
Before I started watching this channel I never really thought about how many people are responsible for making sure a plane can safely get people from point A to point B. Bc you’re not just trusting the pilots w/your life - you’re trusting every mechanic who’s ever even TOUCHED that specific plane, the people loading baggage/cargo & de-icing your plane, every ATC who instructs your pilots, the people who wash it, every person involved in building that specific plane & programmed the computer system. And apparently also the people at the airline who are responsible for educating the pilots on computer system on that plane. Bc these pilots wouldn’t have crashed if they had all the info they should have. Amazing landing tho! I’ve also learned (watching these episodes) that there are way too many uneducated/incompetent/inexperienced/unqualified/arrogant pilots out there and I think that scares me most. These people were very lucky to have these 3 guys in the cockpit.
It both distributes the workload so one person isn't responsible for the whole thing working and having to know every tiny fact and detail, but it also increases the amount of points of failure. Since if any one of them fails to do it properly, horrible things can happen.
@@m4rt_ Which makes it even more amazing at how few plane crashes there are these days compared to the amount of planes in the sky at any given moment. These episodes that go over in-depth investigations really show how for every plane crash there is, lots of work goes into putting safeguards to prevent the same problems from happening twice. For all the hands involved, it's one of the safest ways to travel.
This captain's decision to use the top of the trees to slow down its crash landing probably contributed to saving all the passengers on board the plane. That flight ended badly for no fault of his own. And yet, it cost him his career. Talk about unfair.
His body wasnt harmed, but his mind took a major dent. I know I would have as well, as would most people. Thankfully loosing your career in Scandinavia isnt an economical issue, as he would get full medical retirement.
@@GnosticAtheist my father was a fighter pilot in the pacific during World War Two. He had 2 planes shot out from underneath him. Splash down, get picked up by a ship, get another plane, fly another 50 missions. No mental gymnastics just get back up there and fight. By far not the only pilot that went through this and they all got back up and flew. Many continued to fly commercially for Delta, Pan Am, and others. Different people back then, stronger. BTW I’m Swedish, as was my Dad. So….
@OldWomanfromtheMountains also a big difference in that a fighter pilot only has their own lives on the line, an airline captain has dozens or even hundreds that could be killed. I wouldn't be surprised If they cared more about the rest dying than just themselves.
This is probably one of the most amazing crashes when it comes to everyone surviving, most others I have seen had some sort of unobstructed place to land with the Hudson probably being the hardest. In this case however the captain had a forest and I doubt anyone would have even imagined everyone surviving.
How in God's name could the manufacturer put a whole new system in place on an airplane and tell absolutely NO ONE. Did they want it to be a surprise or something?
One of the best episodes, ever! All the explanations from the investigators were easy to understand! The fact that everyone lived is proof that miracles do happen! Kudos to all involved!
My grandmother just told me about this flight this weekend, apparently her brother was the pilot who managed to steer it into safety. It's frankly insane that I'm getting this recommended now.
Gee, a system the pilots and airlines didn't know existed needed to be deactivated to prevent a crash... Remind anyone of the Max? That's a lesson written in blood that no one seems to have recognized yet...
What a hero, and team for their courage to do all the right things in an emergency. I remember this as if it was yesterday, I was living in Denmark at the time and I thought what an amazing feat of endurance to land a plane without any engine power. I live in Ireland now, but I fly when I'm going back to Copenhagen to visit my family with SAS.
The most extraordinary thing about this crash which was frequently reported about in the aftermath was the one initially alleged dead/missing polish passenger. He was missing during the headcount. Later when going through records they noticed he had indeed been on the flight but then checked in at the next flight after the crash, which seemed impossible. However the explaination was that he had immediately left the crash site and gotten a lift back to the airport and hopped on the next flight.
@@vaati000 I can only find him mentioned on a Swedish forum. He was apparently called Beyron and worked for the Swedish military. They also said that he was interviewed by Swedish state radio P3 in a documentary about the crash, I haven't listend to it so I can't confirm if it's true.
When an airplane crashes and the pilots can save at least most passengers if not all of them, I give a lot of credit to the pilots. They are the ones doing what's neccessary in the cockpit for what's best for the plane and passengers.
Boeing evidently learned nothing from this incident when they installed MCAS on the 737 MAX. Having an automated system override the pilot's judgment is as dangerous as it is arrogant.
There are more than enough cases where overriding the captains inputs would've saved the plane. Autmatic systems arent bad by themselves, but any change need to be shown and in best case trained in a simulator. Also add it to checklists.
@@LucyKosakiautomated are not bad, automated systems that pilots are not trained to use are. In this case due to ignorance, in the case of the max for cost saving.
No, it depends. LOADS more planes are saved from crashes from systems like that than not. Airbus has an auto-pull-up system, where it pulls up automatically when it detects that the ground is too close to not pull up, despite both pilots moving the controls in a way that'll chrash the plane.
How ironic that the company that snuck this system into the plane just happend to "take over" Boeing with their view on running things and once again put in a system in the planes that made them crash.
Considering the company retained the Boeing name, and several parts of MD was sold off after the merger, it would be silly to think that MD took over Boeing. On the other hand, the CEO from MD was the one taking over the CEO chair of the merged company. I used to work in such a company so i'm in fact inclined to agree with you.
I was just a kid at the time, but I remember this story on the news. This was such a miracle, the way it came down, how the fuselage broke apart, but still everyone survived.
The ”assisting pilot” in this accident, Per Holmberg, who join them in the cockpit, is a former field pilot in the Swedish Air Force. Per Holmberg contributed to the pilots being able to stay focused on flying the plane, and actively assisted with troubleshooting, impact planning and decisions. The accident commission stated that Holmberg's action "probably saved everyone on board from an even worse accident and a more bleak end" After six months of convalescence, he continued to fly the MD-80 for the SAS. Per Holmberg received 1993 the H.M. King's medal from King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden for his heroic action in Gottröra.
I remember this as if it was yesterday and I was close by when it happened. Another crazy thing the airliner SAS did was to paint the plane white as quickly as possible to avoid bad publicity, they didn’t want their name and logotype on the wreckage . You can see this at the end of this doc. Talk about wrong priorities. The good thing about it was that it fuelled anger and quilt was channelised towards SAS. Everyone felt that was a cheap and wrong.
It was such a happy moment for all who were saved by such a great pilot and an incredibly cohesive team. Also such a sad moment for Captain Rasmussen, to give up his greatest love. His is a life to continue to be proud of, seeing from the comments, he plays music that brings happiness all around.
This situation highlights the responsibilities of airlines to ensure that there pilots have insurance cover to pay out sufficient funds that they can cover their loss of wages and give them options to pursue another professional career in the aviation world or another pathway and to not be disadvantaged in life after such a life changing event. All praise to the Captain and flight crew!!
It does, but just for information, in Sweden this is covered by taxes and is available for everyone. Noone is left to fend for their own in a situation like this.
@@Divig The pilot wasn't Swedish - he was Danish - and it's not clear from the documentary under which country's social security system he belonged. But even back then, the Swedish system did limit the amount of compensation for both direct costs and loss of income.
@@MathiasMelker yes, they limit the compensation, but noone is left high and dry. (And I used Sweden since I know our system. I believe that the danes has similar set-up as us, but I don't know for sure)
One thing that save this this plane was that it was a MD-81. And what I mean is that the engines were at the back of the plane and not underneath the wing so it made smooth landing on what ever the captain was able to land on either water or land.
By now (though other examples) manufacturers should know that introducing any features which main function is to NOT trust the pilots should NEVER be automatic. Have horns blaring or whatever... but DO NOT take control out of his hands.
No, loads more people are saved by anti-stall/anti-crash systems than not. A lot of accidents historically have been fog crashes or stalls, where the pilots aren't aware of how close the plane it to stalling/hitting the ground, and now systems exist that totally override the pilots to prevent fatal control inputs. The pilots just need to know and be notified of the activation of the systems.
If Scandinavian Airlines didn't know it was added, how then, did the investigatory report condemn the cockpit crew for not knowing? If correct the 3rd pilot entering the cockpit was very valuable. He kept the pilot focused on what straight ahead. Sad that Stefan was unable to return😢
@@mariezurie7828 I think they condemned the fact that the pilots didn't know and hadn't even been made aware of it's existence rather than condemning the pilots themselves.
At the end, it said the loss of the pilot's career, and a love affair. I was confused, because I was waiting for them to say that one of the pilots was dating a flight attendant, and they broke up. But now I'm guessing they meant the love of flying.
What an amazing story of survival when the odds are against you and you, and everyone survives despite the airplane being against the pilot. Unbelievable that there wasn't a Mandatory Training Expectation Alert sent out with the new device installed. Whoever was responsible for that alone should have received consequences. It is sad that this was a career ending crash even though the pilot performed heroically. Great video. One of the best I have viewed for quite some time.
Thank god for brave brilliant pilots like these. What a pity that the manufacturer deemed it necessary to write a bit of code to override a pilots decision. However I’m glad that engines are no longer positioned in such a vulnerable location.
38:38 Oh my God, the ATR in the DC9 is the same as the MCAS in the 737 max. SAS didn't buy the system and it was sneaked in by MD. Now MD is Boeing. Why didn't anyone see this?? Is any of the Boeing airplane safe???
I remember this from the swedish papers and tv news back then and how incredible that landing seemed just based on those images and headlines. Ice and snow can be both a curse and a blessing.
For all things that change, some things remain the same... there are several similarities here to the 737 MAX disasters - systems installed by the manufacturer that aren't properly explained and/or documented, and the responsibility for doing the impossible is put on the crew. Thank you to the crew of SK751 for saving all the souls onboard. For all the doubts that may have arisen both then and there and in the years beyond, you are heroes. The outcome speaks for itself, and all the survivors are alive today because of you.
Another case where having a camera to view the engines from the cockpit could have helped the crew to more quickly understand what caused the engine to lose power.
This was in 1991, cameras were huge and complicated back then. Retrofitting probably won't make sense today either. However, the next totally new Airbus or Boeing airliner, likely coming in the 2030s, should have loads of cameras, no reason not to.
With all due respect, both of these replies are ridiculous! I bought a very good video camera in 1990 that was about the size of your thumb. Weighed about 3 oz. Check your “facts” before you criticize a suggestion here.
To the person who suggested that “having a camera to view the engines would pose a further danger,” what planet do you live on? Good God, doesn’t the danger of losing an airliner with 300 soles on board trump (forgive me for that word) any other potential risks???
@@sldrucker I should have said "camera system", not camera. Any useable camera at that time was analog, which would require a complicated system of tape to record or CRT to display.
At 39:50 you can actually see people putting paint over all Scandinavian Airlines logotypes and text. If you google photos of this plane crash just after the crash its all there, but few moments later its all been covered with paint.
I can almost guarantee you. The reason why they didn't tell them about the new system is because they didn't want people to try in throttle down just before the system kick in
Having the plane's heaters turned up gave me an idea. How about Flying Sauna? An exotic airline where you travel in sauna-like dry heat dressed (or undressed) as you would in a hot room! A new flight experience!
back in 1991 the cabin door was often open, because 911 had not happen yet, just FYI guy who narrates the video. Also kids used to get to go inside the cabin to say hello to the captains, sit in the pilot seat and given information that for most kids went inside the ears just as quick as the information would go outside the other ear, thrilling of excitement to be in a pilot seat. That's why the cabin door was open, and he had not endeared him self with the passenger, because the passengers hijacking treat was not something that was not feared until 9 years later!
>plane made by McDonnel Douglas >contains a "saftey" computer code altering the engine power output >the crew doesn`t know it`s a thing >computer code causes a disaster >years later McDonnel Douglas merges with Boeing >Boeing is turned into McDonnel Douglas 2.0 >decades later 737MAX happens >engine power altering code labled as a "safety" messure >barely anyone knew what it did >disaster happens Lesson learned, don`t buy anything that could be traced back to McDonnel Douglas.
My heart goes out to this wonderful pilot. What a brave man. I hope he found happiness in another career and was suitably compensated by SAS. SAS had no right to modify the aircraft without training the pilots and copilots for these aircraft. I take my hat off to the flying crew. I only had a small aircraft license many years ago but I understand how the flying crew must have felt.
Why do airline manufacturers build planes with technology then dont tell the pilots about it. They need to be put in prison. Thsts criminal to do that to those pilots and the flying public. He was a good pilot and still is today id fly with that pilot.
Yea this incident isn’t the first time Boeing has done things like this. I believe a more recent event with Boeing doing something similar involved a system called MCAS I could be wrong but I believe Boeing failed to let airlines know about the system because it would require pilots to have to be trained on the system and Boeing was trying to get airlines to buy the new 737 max but airlines wanted a plane that didn’t require new type writing on it. MCAS was causing planes to pitch noise down soon after take off and pilots had no idea why or how to stop it because Boeing failed to tell them about that system. I can’t remember the airline but unfortunately I believe a plane crashed due to it costing 100 plus people their lives. All for greed and money unfortunately.
Incredible doesn't begin to describe the heroic landing that was next to my family farm! We where spending Christmas in Gottröra Hvilsten. I flew there from the south of Sweden where i lived with my 2 children. We arrived 2 days before the crash. The plain almost touched the roofs of the houses when it came down cutting the tree tops and landing on this small field. It was absolutely amazing, we couldn't understand how they could glide down so perfectly without crashing in to any houses! And then it was so calm, no hysterics. We where very shocked over what had happened. I did not fly home with my children after Christmas. It took me 15 years to gather up courage to make a short flight again. We where very upset over the speculations of the captain being responsible of the crash.
I've had a similar weird power issue with an old car of mine. Trying to increase throttle made it "kangaroo" and severely lose power, due to a defective ignition generator which had been ruined by going through a deep pool of water which wasn't visible on approach until too late.
Soooo great!!! I appreciate each pilot, because they do their best to solve problems in the Air. 👍👍 Amazing work!!! Thank you for these real documents.
I think Captain Rasmussen continued to be a hero even after that doomed flight. If you know you can't perform your duties at 100%, it's not fair to anyone involved. Certainly not the passengers, but also your fellow crewmembers, and even yourself.
I've been flying for now 8-1/2 years now and using the pine tree tops to slow down was very useful and could have been much worse. But in my years of flying I always had the cabin locked.... It's a blessing no lives lost.
I was on a Lufthansa DC9 in the 1980s which developed icing on the leading edge of the wings during flight and the plane started to rock left and right. I had a window seat with good view of the wings and alerted the crew. I knew about icing issues because I used the MS flight simulator over Canada! The plane descended to a warmer altitude and reduced speed. I could see chunks of thin ice fly away. Later, the crew offered me free alcohol drinks for my help, but I opted for a quick visit to the cockpit. When I was young, I dreamed about becoming a pilot, but a military commander that I knew persuade me otherwise since I was tall and muscular. He said that I could barely fit in the cockpit of a fighter jet! Anyway, I am quite short sighted, although I have 20/16 vision.
This is such a diametrically opposed incident. Plane crashes, no fatalities, brought down by a safety system no one told the crew about... and Captain Rasmussen's love of flying the only casualty.
Totally get this as a Senior Police Public Order Commander I had an unavoidable incident which involved massive media,public and professional scrutiny of my decision making - whilst I was totally vindicated I was never the same again as a commander and it pretty much ended my career and I retired not that long after. I just knew I would never do be on top of my game again and wouldn’t do the role and more importantly the people I commanded or the public justice if I continued. Just over four years later I have no regrets quitting when I did.
Very moving and human story. No annoying AI voices either; if there were A*I voices, they were not obvious. Poignant and great credit to Rasmussen and his team for maximising the survival of the passengers and crew. I just wish he had turned back sooner. Aviators, including 99.9% of cabin crews are special people. Here the bureaucracy failed them.
In a swedish documentary they mention the ATR system option was not installed in the SAS planes, if you ordred your planes with ATR you had the option to disable the function. This documentary didn't seem to mention the last part of this (might have missed).
Yes, the ATR could've been disabled by the pilots, but they hadn't been made aware it was a thing, as such they had no idea what was going on, let alone that it was due to a feature.
Acording to the interiews in the swedish documentary, there existed no such button to turn the ATR system off p3 dokumentär - Gottrörakrachen from 2008 (reuploaded 2020) 1:00:51
Admire the pilot's skill in landing the no power plane and saved his whole passengers' lives. Watched a similar incident when the Auto-pilot decided on its own to decrease altitude without the pilot switching it on. At first he wrestled with it but suddenly the plane went up. He decided to land it on any open space as instructed by Control Tower before the Auto-,pilot played its tricks again. The pilot never returned to his flying again too.
Mechanical failure is always something to worry about on planes, hope fully the second engine works if not it's going to be a terrible landing period !
Fun fact. One passanger on this flight went out to the road and called a taxi and went back to Arlanda and booked a new ticket for the next flight to Copenhagen.
probably a dane. we can only stay in sweden for so long before we NEED to get out of that place :)
like it's sweden what else is there to do then get away as fast as possible
this is a joke, danes and swedes are allowed to make those jokes about each other
@@crazydinosaur8945 Atleast Sweden has nature, forests and such. All of Denmark is just wheat fields.
@@swedenisthemotherland3952 yep, go hide from our well fed armies in your deep dark woods like the old days
denmark failed its campaigns in sweden during the Kalmar wars cause we couldn't get any food in Sweden. among other problems...
even though it wasn't the reason i like to that we had food standards swedish cuisine simply couldn't meet
like you only have so much nature and forest because people don't live there, will denmark have people everywhere. get livable land
on a serious note though, i have always envied sweden, norway and finlands magestig and abundant natural beauty
@@crazydinosaur8945 That does it, you guys are never getting Gotland back now!
@@temper44 how dare you keep those poor danes imprisoned in swedish occupied scania there true home is under Denmark, not under swedish occupation, you have given them stockholm syndrome (vary fitting name), they don't really love you, give them back!!!
you can keep Gotland, TBH we don't really want it, but poor Scania give it back, they have lived in sweden for far too long
I think it was brave of him to admit that he would never be 100% again as a Pilot and chose to retire. He knew that other peoples lives depended upon it and he didn’t let his ego or love of flying prevent that.
@@billrivenbark8983 : To me , that’s a REAL pilots honest assessment of the situation. Followed by the best safety decision without remorse.
How could the captain be expected to know how to handle an error in design when he'd never been apprised of it. Problem lies with Pratt Whitney.
@@StopWhining491 I think it's more like, he won't be able to fly without this event in the back of his mind, and that'd probably effect his judgement negatively.
@@StopWhining491 True he did everything right to prevent the accident it was proven and he know he did the right thing. Hes trust in the aircraft systems is what made him turn in hes wings. From hes explination what i belive is the real reson why he stept away is the fact that if hes in a situation again where system warnings start to happen he will question himself if they are 100% real or if there once again is some system at play that he dosent know about. They briefly mentioned hes time after the crash in the simulator and it looked like he panicked abit even if it was just 1 short clip. He lost confident in hes plane to do what he asked of it and when your responsable for 10,000´s of lifes over a long career thats not good for safety. Hes example with the car turning the other way is a good example. If u started to question if your own car could at any point invert the stearing without u knowing it, would u still drive that car daily on the highway?
Perfect comment!!
Can we just say that the captain is a hero, not just for saving the plane the best he could but also for knowing it was best for everyone that he walk away from flying. I can't think of anything more selfless.
Can we just agree to stop posting comments starting with "can we just..."? Let each and everyone speak for themselves - it's very annoying with those comments posted by someone acting like they are a world conscious.
He didn't walk away from flying because it "was the best for everyone", he walked away because he couldn't trust the planes anymore. It's not his fault the plane crashed, it's the fault of the operators for not informing the pilots of any new systems and educating them on them. He lost complete trust in how things are done.
@@SailorYuki "Taking that decision to leave aviation as pilot was like having your highest love and coming to conclusion that you have to (end it). I had many hours, many missions of happiness in an aircraft. I love my passengers a lot. I love my aircraft so much so I said 'that's it.'"
Its partly cultural, and the fact that not working isnt a major problem economically in Scandinavia.
The real hero was not the captain, but the pilot that was seated as a passenger, Per Holmberg. He realised that cpt Rasmussen was frozen and didn't take the necessarey actions(s). So Per stepped in and guided the pilots on how to respond and act, basically.
43:53 As an aviation lover myself. I could feel the sadness in his eyes and voice when he had to leave aviation. 😢
So sad
yeah, I had the waterworks start up when I heard he couldn't bring himself to fly again. Gutted.
Absolutely 😢what an incredible pilot and MAN of God ❤
@@Jai_205 indeed. I solute the Captain. He did save everyone onboard👍❤
Pilot Rasmussen these days is playing jazz music giving concerts at small venues.😊
that is so cute
Nice. Saxophone player or smth?
That’s so Danish 😂
Wow! I never knew that. Good for him. It breaks my heart to know that he ended his aviation career on a depressing note, but at least he's found a new passion. And most importantly, he and all of his crew and passengers survived this incident.
One of the best episodes I’ve seen. The captain is the truest example of responsible airman. Knows he’s lost confidence in the c airframe and puts his responsibilities first and steps down. I’m sorry it came to this and I’m glad he has happy memories too. I’m all walks of life we could learn from him. Set aside the ego and do what is right. Not everyone could be as honest with themselves.
I think the entire Mayday Air Disaster is tedious to watch, overdramatized and made for people with extremely short attention span. All you remember at the end is that everything was extremely critical, extremely high-powered, extremely precarious and extremely important. And the narrator is just seething through the episode and maybe his entire career.
You know, it’s great that no one died in this accident. However, it is also sad because the pilot (who was not ultimately to blame for the incident) had to give up the thing he loved doing.
But you also have to respect him for making that decision because if he didn’t feel like he could trust the aircraft (or possibly himself), then it could prove to potentially be life saving (in a way) in the future.
I’ve never seen this one before. I thought I’d seen them all. I’m so glad that everyone was okay, it must have been terrifying. Kudos to the captain for standing down when he realised he was never going to be the same again. I hope he found another passion to pursue in life.
He went into politics for a few years. Then he slid out of publicity.
Oh okay, thanks for the info. 👍🏼
Hope he continues to do well.
New one for me aswell, and I've been watching these for like 8 years at this point
He might continue flying for himself in a smaller aircraft
It's a good sign that you felt you'd seen them all. It's rare after all!
I know Stefan Rasmussen personally - he's doing great today enjoing the love of music, and making people happy 🙂
I'm so happy to hear that. I still remember the miracle very well. 😺
Without this captain and crew the ending could have been totally horrific. I still think of the happy outcome now and then. Not many people get a second life.
@@fredericia01 Has he ever flown any aircraft at all, since that day?
@@TraceUK No he has not
@@fredericia01 Does he go on trips, when someone else is flying?
He's clearly a gentle and loving soul, bless him.
it's a rare thing to have a plane break up after crashing and everybody survives.. what a lucky flight if there's such a thing after crashing
@@hood_TheJoker im not that sure about that. I seen quite a few cases. But its usually just true for fairly old planes.
The reason is really simple. Bow planes are simply to sturdy, so if they break up the G forces are simpky really really high.
Really if we look at moste cases where there been so to say really hard emegancy landings what killed the most peopöe was fire. There is some example of planes breaking up saved lifes.
How was there no fire? All planes should be constructed like this then, right?
@@mightypen369 Because on a MD80 all the fuel is in the wings, and if there is no wings, there is also no fuel. And if there is no fuel, there is no fire.
@@matsv201 fuel fire yes but other stuff can burn like the clothes, the seats, plastic etc
@@fortnitetrashcan8308 The seats have quite a lot of flame retardant in them. And they are pretty hard to catch fire even if they didn´t have it.
There need to be some original source of fire to make the interior catch fire.
So for the interior to both catch fire and spreed decently fast, there need to be a ample fuel source that is airated. And that really only happen if there is fuel around.
This for example can be compared to the A350 that crashed in Japan a few month back. (Japan Airlines Flight 516). While the fire was very hard to put out, it took a very lone time (like a hour) for it to totally spreed to the interior. By that point, the passengers was not only out of the plane, but already at the hospital.
For us in Sweden it is called the miracale at Gottröra
Yeah, that's correct. I am born early 92. My great grandmother lived in Gottröra, just minutes away from the accident. She told me so many stories about this miracle when i was a kid.
@@khra83 and here in Denmark 🌹
I remember the cruel invitation 😢 nobody believed the pilots 😢
Reminds me so much of the Miracle on the Hudson crash, and survival! I keep that photo of all the survivors standing on the wings waiting for rescue, on the Hudson River on my screensaver. It reminds me of Jesus walking on the water. And the plane looks like a cross, with the big rudder and 2 wings....God is good. Maranatha!
@@LisKofod Same as what happened with Captain Sullenberger and his co-pilot on the Hudson landing. But they prevailed!
"We're crashing into the ground now".... Damn, that is a badass thing to say so calm.
Ive heard the original recording, he says it in Swedish and its way calmer in the real recording.
@@GetItOfYourChestyup we Swedes are way calmer than everyone else 🇸🇪✌🏼
@@dennisalexanderson6975
Thank you for ruining the moment.
@@dennisalexanderson6975 haha bullshit, i have a svensk friend! he's batshit crazy
@@SMGJohn haha in what way did I ruined it? The pilot were Danish by the way
I had completely forgot about this tragedy, partly because I was really young back then, but also because these brave and smart pilots managed to land so well that everyone survived! They are the pilots you wish to have every flight!
NOw there are woman pilot into the business.. and you know what could happen
This is not known as a tragedy in Sweden but as a "miracle" due to no deaths and only one severe lasting injury.
They were also lucky to find an open field in the woods.
@@gamerschuck4391 been female pilots for good couple decades, i get this was probs a joke but still 💀
Same here, although I was only 10 when it happened.
How many pilots have landed a plane that size without engines where everyone survived? pilots landed that brick and lived to tell the story! Captain and the crew are heroes!
What a good man the captain proved to be. The whole team was splendid, responsible and humane
Totally understand the position the captain. He did a heroic job and didn’t lose a single passenger - great move on which to end one’s career. It’s unfortunate that he loves flying this much but as he said himself he had his great moments to think about.
I know Stefan Gydegaard Rasmussen, he lives and is well here in Denmark in a town called Holbæk. He plays in a Jazz band (Futti-Production) 😊 He is one of the nicest people
Has he ever flown any aircraft at all, since that day?
The death toll was just one - his career as a pilot. So sad...
No fire. No fatalities. Incredible.
Was it- after the crush- luck that the fuel was very cold?
Much is probably due to the fact that the jet fuel was minus 20 degrees and that there was a lot of snow, if it had leaked a little, the snow would absorb it.
Then the plane had no power that could short circuit.
Braceing
One fatality: Captain Rasmussen's career.
Salutes to you, Captain. You and the rest of the crew, are all heroes 🫡
I'm so happy that the Captain followed his instinct, saving all lives on board
Good job Captain, your amazing. You did everything right and everyone lived through that dangerous situation. I applaud you and the way you handled yourself. It was some computer programmer that took away your ability for you to save the airplane and that problem should be rectified. That computer should not have taken your control away from you since you where doing what was necessary to answer to the situation. Praise God for a wonderful outcome to what surely could have been a real tragedy
NO,, not a computer programmer. Such revision to engine operation, requires a corporate board decision.
This video brought tears to my eyes when it was announced that everyone survived!
Before I started watching this channel I never really thought about how many people are responsible for making sure a plane can safely get people from point A to point B.
Bc you’re not just trusting the pilots w/your life - you’re trusting every mechanic who’s ever even TOUCHED that specific plane, the people loading baggage/cargo & de-icing your plane, every ATC who instructs your pilots, the people who wash it, every person involved in building that specific plane & programmed the computer system. And apparently also the people at the airline who are responsible for educating the pilots on computer system on that plane. Bc these pilots wouldn’t have crashed if they had all the info they should have.
Amazing landing tho! I’ve also learned (watching these episodes) that there are way too many uneducated/incompetent/inexperienced/unqualified/arrogant pilots out there and I think that scares me most. These people were very lucky to have these 3 guys in the cockpit.
It both distributes the workload so one person isn't responsible for the whole thing working and having to know every tiny fact and detail, but it also increases the amount of points of failure. Since if any one of them fails to do it properly, horrible things can happen.
I was married to an ex-fighter pilot and it explains why he never went anywhere without certain tools.
@@m4rt_ Which makes it even more amazing at how few plane crashes there are these days compared to the amount of planes in the sky at any given moment. These episodes that go over in-depth investigations really show how for every plane crash there is, lots of work goes into putting safeguards to prevent the same problems from happening twice. For all the hands involved, it's one of the safest ways to travel.
@@MegaKaitouKID1412 Many people pray regularly and specifically for aviators and other high risk performers.
This captain's decision to use the top of the trees to slow down its crash landing probably contributed to saving all the passengers on board the plane. That flight ended badly for no fault of his own. And yet, it cost him his career. Talk about unfair.
His body wasnt harmed, but his mind took a major dent. I know I would have as well, as would most people. Thankfully loosing your career in Scandinavia isnt an economical issue, as he would get full medical retirement.
@@GnosticAtheist my father was a fighter pilot in the pacific during World War Two. He had 2 planes shot out from underneath him. Splash down, get picked up by a ship, get another plane, fly another 50 missions. No mental gymnastics just get back up there and fight. By far not the only pilot that went through this and they all got back up and flew. Many continued to fly commercially for Delta, Pan Am, and others. Different people back then, stronger. BTW I’m Swedish, as was my Dad. So….
He only risked his own life in those crashes. Of course he did not experience the same dread of being responsible for the death of civilians.
@OldWomanfromtheMountains also a big difference in that a fighter pilot only has their own lives on the line, an airline captain has dozens or even hundreds that could be killed. I wouldn't be surprised If they cared more about the rest dying than just themselves.
@@OldWomanfromtheMountains didnt know many swedish people fought for the americans in the pacific.
This is probably one of the most amazing crashes when it comes to everyone surviving, most others I have seen had some sort of unobstructed place to land with the Hudson probably being the hardest. In this case however the captain had a forest and I doubt anyone would have even imagined everyone surviving.
And thank God for that other pilot who came up from the passenger area to help.....he kept telling him to FOCUS on a landing spot!
I met Per Holmberg in 1992, he was very modest about his part
@@cykeldoktorn4241 , "Hjälten från Gottröraolyckan"
@@cykeldoktorn4241, true heroes ARE undisputedly modest 💯 and I respect them for that. 😎😎😎
How in God's name could the manufacturer put a whole new system in place on an airplane and tell absolutely NO ONE. Did they want it to be a surprise or something?
@@lesliewolfe7643 Boeing MCAS
Boeing says “hold my beer” 🍻
All they think of is money
Smh
Nowadays such "system" can easily show up as an online software update. Maybe not on planes (yet), but surely on a car like Tesla.
@5Dale65 I've never trusted Tesla as far as I can throw one.
One of the best episodes, ever! All the explanations from the investigators were easy to understand! The fact that everyone lived is proof that miracles do happen! Kudos to all involved!
It's the only time I've cried watching this series. My heart breaks for the captain.
I agree, I got a bit teary-eyed
My grandmother just told me about this flight this weekend, apparently her brother was the pilot who managed to steer it into safety. It's frankly insane that I'm getting this recommended now.
Gee, a system the pilots and airlines didn't know existed needed to be deactivated to prevent a crash... Remind anyone of the Max? That's a lesson written in blood that no one seems to have recognized yet...
Over automation can lead to reliance and complacency. Even worse is when it is unknown or forced upon an operator.
@jdrissel Yes.
MCAS anyone??
even worse, DC was a Mcdonell Dougalus plane and they were merged into Boeing
@@jdrissel max incident and this incident are related in some way
What a hero, and team for their courage to do all the right things in an emergency. I remember this as if it was yesterday, I was living in Denmark at the time and I thought what an amazing feat of endurance to land a plane without any engine power. I live in Ireland now, but I fly when I'm going back to Copenhagen to visit my family with SAS.
Really Enjoyed How He Kept Telling Pilot to "Look Straight Ahead" and Above All FLY The Plane
The most extraordinary thing about this crash which was frequently reported about in the aftermath was the one initially alleged dead/missing polish passenger. He was missing during the headcount. Later when going through records they noticed he had indeed been on the flight but then checked in at the next flight after the crash, which seemed impossible. However the explaination was that he had immediately left the crash site and gotten a lift back to the airport and hopped on the next flight.
Wow that's insane!!
Man's got places to be!
Is there a source? Couldn't find anything in any articles.
@@vaati000 I can only find him mentioned on a Swedish forum. He was apparently called Beyron and worked for the Swedish military. They also said that he was interviewed by Swedish state radio P3 in a documentary about the crash, I haven't listend to it so I can't confirm if it's true.
@@camelwars Hey, it's something. Thank you!
When an airplane crashes and the pilots can save at least most passengers if not all of them, I give a lot of credit to the pilots. They are the ones doing what's neccessary in the cockpit for what's best for the plane and passengers.
Boeing evidently learned nothing from this incident when they installed MCAS on the 737 MAX. Having an automated system override the pilot's judgment is as dangerous as it is arrogant.
@@BalancedByte indeed
There are more than enough cases where overriding the captains inputs would've saved the plane. Autmatic systems arent bad by themselves, but any change need to be shown and in best case trained in a simulator. Also add it to checklists.
The madness continues.
@@LucyKosakiautomated are not bad, automated systems that pilots are not trained to use are.
In this case due to ignorance, in the case of the max for cost saving.
No, it depends. LOADS more planes are saved from crashes from systems like that than not. Airbus has an auto-pull-up system, where it pulls up automatically when it detects that the ground is too close to not pull up, despite both pilots moving the controls in a way that'll chrash the plane.
How ironic that the company that snuck this system into the plane just happend to "take over" Boeing with their view on running things and once again put in a system in the planes that made them crash.
Considering the company retained the Boeing name, and several parts of MD was sold off after the merger, it would be silly to think that MD took over Boeing. On the other hand, the CEO from MD was the one taking over the CEO chair of the merged company. I used to work in such a company so i'm in fact inclined to agree with you.
It's always ignorant in the long scheme of things, to put the love of money over the love of humanity. 😿💜😿
I've read many experts, or self-appointed experts at least, saying that while Boeing bought MD, MD's culture took over Boeing.
Seeing the fuselage broken open, it is amazing that passengers survived as well as they did!
The pilots stayed calm and landed the plane properly under the circumstances.
I was just a kid at the time, but I remember this story on the news. This was such a miracle, the way it came down, how the fuselage broke apart, but still everyone survived.
Massively addicted to this program. And I don't even fly!!
The ”assisting pilot” in this accident, Per Holmberg, who join them in the cockpit, is a former field pilot in the Swedish Air Force.
Per Holmberg contributed to the pilots being able to stay focused on flying the plane, and actively assisted with troubleshooting, impact planning and decisions.
The accident commission stated that Holmberg's action "probably saved everyone on board from an even worse accident and a more bleak end"
After six months of convalescence, he continued to fly the MD-80 for the SAS.
Per Holmberg received 1993 the H.M. King's medal from King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden for his heroic action in Gottröra.
I remember this as if it was yesterday and I was close by when it happened. Another crazy thing the airliner SAS did was to paint the plane white as quickly as possible to avoid bad publicity, they didn’t want their name and logotype on the wreckage . You can see this at the end of this doc. Talk about wrong priorities. The good thing about it was that it fuelled anger and quilt was channelised towards SAS. Everyone felt that was a cheap and wrong.
This one and the Gimli glider, 2 incredible pilots,also the Alaska one with the hole in the floor. Amazing
and the Aloha one with the 737 convertible.
Transat was also great
That pilot is the Swedish Sully. Both had their engines fail, both landed in a dangerous condition, and everyone survived.
Except he's Danish. His co-pilot was however Swedish.
@@akyhne lol
It was such a happy moment for all who were saved by such a great pilot and an incredibly cohesive team. Also such a sad moment for Captain Rasmussen, to give up his greatest love. His is a life to continue to be proud of, seeing from the comments, he plays music that brings happiness all around.
This situation highlights the responsibilities of airlines to ensure that there pilots have insurance cover to pay out sufficient funds that they can cover their loss of wages and give them options to pursue another professional career in the aviation world or another pathway and to not be disadvantaged in life after such a life changing event. All praise to the Captain and flight crew!!
It does, but just for information, in Sweden this is covered by taxes and is available for everyone. Noone is left to fend for their own in a situation like this.
@@Divig The pilot wasn't Swedish - he was Danish - and it's not clear from the documentary under which country's social security system he belonged. But even back then, the Swedish system did limit the amount of compensation for both direct costs and loss of income.
@@MathiasMelker yes, they limit the compensation, but noone is left high and dry. (And I used Sweden since I know our system. I believe that the danes has similar set-up as us, but I don't know for sure)
One thing that save this this plane was that it was a MD-81. And what I mean is that the engines were at the back of the plane and not underneath the wing so it made smooth landing on what ever the captain was able to land on either water or land.
The engine placement caused the problem in the first place. Engines mounted under the wings wouldn't have ingested the ice flying off of said wings.
@@Owen_loves_Butters you have a point but it did save the plane from breaking up a killing others
If the engines were in the front, no problem would have occurred .
@@elizabethtorres3491 that’s true
@@Owen_loves_Butters You recall the crash of D.C. to Florida flight which crashed over the bridge? Wing mounted engines if I recall.
By now (though other examples) manufacturers should know that introducing any features which main function is to NOT trust the pilots should NEVER be automatic.
Have horns blaring or whatever... but DO NOT take control out of his hands.
No, loads more people are saved by anti-stall/anti-crash systems than not. A lot of accidents historically have been fog crashes or stalls, where the pilots aren't aware of how close the plane it to stalling/hitting the ground, and now systems exist that totally override the pilots to prevent fatal control inputs. The pilots just need to know and be notified of the activation of the systems.
If Scandinavian Airlines didn't know it was added, how then, did the investigatory report condemn the cockpit crew for not knowing? If correct the 3rd pilot entering the cockpit was very valuable. He kept the pilot focused on what straight ahead. Sad that Stefan was unable to return😢
@@mariezurie7828 I think they condemned the fact that the pilots didn't know and hadn't even been made aware of it's existence rather than condemning the pilots themselves.
Right. It was the airlines fault. No one was made aware of this new piece of equipment, no procedures given and so the airline was found at fault
@@gaylealleluia8392 quite an oversight huh?
@@rachmunshine9474 For real!
@@gaylealleluia8392 Who added the ATR without saying ?
At the end, it said the loss of the pilot's career, and a love affair. I was confused, because I was waiting for them to say that one of the pilots was dating a flight attendant, and they broke up. But now I'm guessing they meant the love of flying.
thank You for exiting video.What a fine crew!
exciting rather than exit ing.
I praise these pilots even the one that got up out his seat he definitely helped
What an amazing story of survival when the odds are against you and you, and everyone survives despite the airplane being against the pilot. Unbelievable that there wasn't a Mandatory Training Expectation Alert sent out with the new device installed. Whoever was responsible for that alone should have received consequences. It is sad that this was a career ending crash even though the pilot performed heroically. Great video. One of the best I have viewed for quite some time.
I have been to this plane crash site and it hardly 30 min from where i live and once u r there u will realise how lucky 129 passengers were.
Thank god for brave brilliant pilots like these. What a pity that the manufacturer deemed it necessary to write a bit of code to override a pilots decision. However I’m glad that engines are no longer positioned in such a vulnerable location.
An unknown system! Deja Vu. We don't seem to have learnt much. Like the art of communication can save a lot of grief.
38:38 Oh my God, the ATR in the DC9 is the same as the MCAS in the 737 max. SAS didn't buy the system and it was sneaked in by MD. Now MD is Boeing. Why didn't anyone see this?? Is any of the Boeing airplane safe???
I remember this from the swedish papers and tv news back then and how incredible that landing seemed just based on those images and headlines. Ice and snow can be both a curse and a blessing.
For all things that change, some things remain the same... there are several similarities here to the 737 MAX disasters - systems installed by the manufacturer that aren't properly explained and/or documented, and the responsibility for doing the impossible is put on the crew.
Thank you to the crew of SK751 for saving all the souls onboard. For all the doubts that may have arisen both then and there and in the years beyond, you are heroes. The outcome speaks for itself, and all the survivors are alive today because of you.
Another case where having a camera to view the engines from the cockpit could have helped the crew to more quickly understand what caused the engine to lose power.
Another case of having a camera to view the engines would have posed further danger.
This was in 1991, cameras were huge and complicated back then. Retrofitting probably won't make sense today either. However, the next totally new Airbus or Boeing airliner, likely coming in the 2030s, should have loads of cameras, no reason not to.
With all due respect, both of these replies are ridiculous! I bought a very good video camera in 1990 that was about the size of your thumb. Weighed about 3 oz. Check your “facts” before you criticize a suggestion here.
To the person who suggested that “having a camera to view the engines would pose a further danger,” what planet do you live on? Good God, doesn’t the danger of losing an airliner with 300 soles on board trump (forgive me for that word) any other potential risks???
@@sldrucker I should have said "camera system", not camera. Any useable camera at that time was analog, which would require a complicated system of tape to record or CRT to display.
Post traumatic stress disorder.
LoL.
@@marksamuelsen2750 is that funny?
Exactly what I commented 😢they were emotionally scared for life😢
At 39:50 you can actually see people putting paint over all Scandinavian Airlines logotypes and text.
If you google photos of this plane crash just after the crash its all there, but few moments later its all been covered with paint.
I know it is untrue but after watching this series 'state of the art' sounds a lot like 'X days until retirement'.
I can almost guarantee you. The reason why they didn't tell them about the new system is because they didn't want people to try in throttle down just before the system kick in
Having the plane's heaters turned up gave me an idea. How about Flying Sauna? An exotic airline where you travel in sauna-like dry heat dressed (or undressed) as you would in a hot room! A new flight experience!
Wearing a seat belt in a sauna doesn't sound nice
Much respect to that pilot.
back in 1991 the cabin door was often open, because 911 had not happen yet, just FYI guy who narrates the video. Also kids used to get to go inside the cabin to say hello to the captains, sit in the pilot seat and given information that for most kids went inside the ears just as quick as the information would go outside the other ear, thrilling of excitement to be in a pilot seat. That's why the cabin door was open, and he had not endeared him self with the passenger, because the passengers hijacking treat was not something that was not feared until 9 years later!
umm there were hijackings before 9/11
brave man really in both the flight and retiring.
>plane made by McDonnel Douglas
>contains a "saftey" computer code altering the engine power output
>the crew doesn`t know it`s a thing
>computer code causes a disaster
>years later McDonnel Douglas merges with Boeing
>Boeing is turned into McDonnel Douglas 2.0
>decades later 737MAX happens
>engine power altering code labled as a "safety" messure
>barely anyone knew what it did
>disaster happens
Lesson learned, don`t buy anything that could be traced back to McDonnel Douglas.
@@MrFi-es2ie Two JT8 engins wiped nearly out of the same time is very bad luck
My heart goes out to this wonderful pilot. What a brave man. I hope he found happiness in another career and was suitably compensated by SAS. SAS had no right to modify the aircraft without training the pilots and copilots for these aircraft.
I take my hat off to the flying crew.
I only had a small aircraft license many years ago but I understand how the flying crew must have felt.
Why do airline manufacturers build planes with technology then dont tell the pilots about it. They need to be put in prison. Thsts criminal to do that to those pilots and the flying public. He was a good pilot and still is today id fly with that pilot.
Boeing especially...mass murderers
Boeing
Yea this incident isn’t the first time Boeing has done things like this. I believe a more recent event with Boeing doing something similar involved a system called MCAS I could be wrong but I believe Boeing failed to let airlines know about the system because it would require pilots to have to be trained on the system and Boeing was trying to get airlines to buy the new 737 max but airlines wanted a plane that didn’t require new type writing on it. MCAS was causing planes to pitch noise down soon after take off and pilots had no idea why or how to stop it because Boeing failed to tell them about that system. I can’t remember the airline but unfortunately I believe a plane crashed due to it costing 100 plus people their lives. All for greed and money unfortunately.
The ATR sounds similar to the MCAS system on the 737 MAX 8. Why not tell pilots when something is new?!
What happened to captain hamborg? Nobody has mentioned him. He helped them and he was very straight to the point. God bless him.
* Holmberg, Capt. Per Holmberg.
Incredible doesn't begin to describe the heroic landing that was next to my family farm! We where spending Christmas in Gottröra Hvilsten. I flew there from the south of Sweden where i lived with my 2 children. We arrived 2 days before the crash.
The plain almost touched the roofs of the houses when it came down cutting the tree tops and landing on this small field. It was absolutely amazing, we couldn't understand how they could glide down so perfectly without crashing in to any houses! And then it was so calm, no hysterics. We where very shocked over what had happened. I did not fly home with my children after Christmas. It took me 15 years to gather up courage to make a short flight again. We where very upset over the speculations of the captain being responsible of the crash.
I've had a similar weird power issue with an old car of mine. Trying to increase throttle made it "kangaroo" and severely lose power, due to a defective ignition generator which had been ruined by going through a deep pool of water which wasn't visible on approach until too late.
He was a great captain even in his retirement! :O
Soooo great!!! I appreciate each pilot, because they do their best to solve problems in the Air. 👍👍 Amazing work!!!
Thank you for these real documents.
I think Captain Rasmussen continued to be a hero even after that doomed flight. If you know you can't perform your duties at 100%, it's not fair to anyone involved. Certainly not the passengers, but also your fellow crewmembers, and even yourself.
I've been flying for now 8-1/2 years now and using the pine tree tops to slow down was very useful and could have been much worse.
But in my years of flying I always had the cabin locked....
It's a blessing no lives lost.
I was on a Lufthansa DC9 in the 1980s which developed icing on the leading edge of the wings during flight and the plane started to rock left and right. I had a window seat with good view of the wings and alerted the crew. I knew about icing issues because I used the MS flight simulator over Canada! The plane descended to a warmer altitude and reduced speed. I could see chunks of thin ice fly away. Later, the crew offered me free alcohol drinks for my help, but I opted for a quick visit to the cockpit. When I was young, I dreamed about becoming a pilot, but a military commander that I knew persuade me otherwise since I was tall and muscular. He said that I could barely fit in the cockpit of a fighter jet! Anyway, I am quite short sighted, although I have 20/16 vision.
This is such a diametrically opposed incident. Plane crashes, no fatalities, brought down by a safety system no one told the crew about... and Captain Rasmussen's love of flying the only casualty.
Totally get this as a Senior Police Public Order Commander I had an unavoidable incident which involved massive media,public and professional scrutiny of my decision making - whilst I was totally vindicated I was never the same again as a commander and it pretty much ended my career and I retired not that long after. I just knew I would never do be on top of my game again and wouldn’t do the role and more importantly the people I commanded or the public justice if I continued. Just over four years later I have no regrets quitting when I did.
Very moving and human story. No annoying AI voices either; if there were A*I voices, they were not obvious. Poignant and great credit to Rasmussen and his team for maximising the survival of the passengers and crew. I just wish he had turned back sooner. Aviators, including 99.9% of cabin crews are special people. Here the bureaucracy failed them.
The ice was hiding in plain sight clear to the naked eye unnoticeable omg, how can a person get over that ?
In a swedish documentary they mention the ATR system option was not installed in the SAS planes, if you ordred your planes with ATR you had the option to disable the function.
This documentary didn't seem to mention the last part of this (might have missed).
Yes, the ATR could've been disabled by the pilots, but they hadn't been made aware it was a thing, as such they had no idea what was going on, let alone that it was due to a feature.
Acording to the interiews in the swedish documentary, there existed no such button to turn the ATR system off
p3 dokumentär - Gottrörakrachen from 2008 (reuploaded 2020) 1:00:51
31:10 Tore Hultgren knows his stuff. He is 3000 years old and was one of the first aviators of the Rivendell elf kingdom.
he isn't an elf, I've seen pictures
Ive never wanted to give soneone a hug so bad, bless his heart
The Pilot in him died in that crash but he himself survived.
@@Keilen10 His work was done. Literally.
Much respect for the pilot!
Wow- it's absolutely insane that the pilots weren't informed of this new system!!! And that is what caused the accident?? That is absolutely madness.
I am from Norway in Scandinavia and I have NEVER heard of this
The reason for the survival is due to flight captain Stefan Rasmussen.
Typical big firms to instantly try to blame pilot or crew for perhaps making mistakes. Instead of thinking they might have made a mistake themself.
Admire the pilot's skill in landing the no power plane and saved his whole passengers' lives. Watched a similar incident when the Auto-pilot decided on its own to decrease altitude without the pilot switching it on. At first he wrestled with it but suddenly the plane went up. He decided to land it on any open space as instructed by Control Tower before the Auto-,pilot played its tricks again. The pilot never returned to his flying again too.
This is why I hate so-called safety assistance in cars these days. Especially when you can't override them.
One more example cameras are needed on the outside of the plane
and today cameras are tiny, cheap, and plentiful. No excuse not to work them into the design.
@@watchgoose how is the camera going to work without vibrations and ice?
@@AnniCarlsson electric heaters and stabilizer ;)
@@MisiekCentralny lol yeah sure. You don't get how cold that is and how much power it's needed to power it
One of our🇩🇰 biggest heroes of All time ❤️🙏🏼
Mechanical failure is always something to worry about on planes, hope fully the second engine works if not it's going to be a terrible landing period !
Always a great series.
I remember this, I was a young adult at that time, I loved it back then like I love it today when disasters have good endings.