I did the same math and came to the same conclusion, I didn’t want to wait three years. Started watching BAT and found a new C06 convertible with no Z07 package, I wanted 4S tires not cups tires because I don’t track and 4S have two to three times tread life meaning I am not worrying about my carbon wheels for a couple of years, hopefully problem solved. Had to pay over list😢 still cheaper than my 992 Turbo S and enjoy the C06 as much if not more. Glad you are enjoying life, miss your old schedule.
Why am I so excited to see my name on a little whiteboard? IDK but I AM! I gave up my MM Z06 slot ~ 2200 because 1) I don’t think the C8 will stay in production long enough for my number to come up and 2) I have a low number at MM for an ERay. I WAS thinking about specifying CF wheels for it. I wasn’t sure if you were an EE or a Comp Sci guy. That’s resolved now. Alaska, right! Wife and I did almost that same trip. Life changing. You are making great progress on the Lemons car. Finally, your enthusiasm for this video is palpable. Welcome back!
I almost bought a Z06 with Z07 package and CF wheels but it was over my budget so at the end I finished buying a Z06 HTC anniversary edition Lucky me Now I'm feeling better after watching your video thanks
Awww...Yeah... It's Fredday Again...ha ha ha 😂 Fred, welcome back my friend! Glad to see some new content from your channel! Really great to hear about your family Alaska trip and then Wave runner right after 😁 Loving how the Lemon's project is coming along too! Keep up the great work and enjoy my friend! 53 👍 Currently Be well -Shane
Agreed on the Carbon Fiber Wheels! I don’t know why anyone would want them for the Expense and Damage that almost certainly will occur. Practicality Wise, unless you’re going to have a Museum Piece or Static Display, I don’t know why anyone would order them for the C8 ZO6/Z0Z!!! You need another complete set of Wheels and Tires Dude! Forget about the time of a second or two you’ll drop as an occasional Track Performance Session. Then the tires, so who has deep pockets to buy a Set of Cups after 2-3 Track Sessions. Besides tires there are other added expenses than tires alone. Mounting & Balancing fees, insurance fee possibly, alignment, finding a dealership willing to do the work, etc… Yes, Check Out What Speed Phenom has gone through. If I decide to get a ZO6 or an ERAY, no way will I go for the Carbon Fiber Wheels. I see that Street Speed just picked up a ZO6/ZO7 for his channel. Probably will see a lot of content relative to his issues. He’s going to do a lot of mods I think, because he’s beyond a 6 month ownership as a second owner. In another direction: I had a 2012 Cruise to Alaska (didn’t do the Land Tour). Unfortunately, I started out the day we had to drive to Pittsburgh to catch out plane with a Kidney Stone. Took some heavy medication and made the flight to Vancouver. On the ship, I had a few days under the weather and on mid-cruise I passed the stone. Missed out on the Dog Camp and a Float Plane Flight. Glad I missed the flight, because the Return Trip was by River Boat. Bad weather kept the plane grounded. The boat trip was really rough and a lot people got sick. Alaska, everyone has a boat or a plane to get around. Probably would not be a place most people would set up as to their retirement or maybe even a Time Share. Thanks for the Great Update. Good Luck working through the MacMulkin List. Understand your situation with: Life Comes At You Fast as they say, do enjoy everything you can and get to RUclips as it fits. I don’t know if people has any comprehension as to the amount of time that goes into production. It’s more than taking a camera and shooting content. Also, you’re probably overwhelmed in responding to comments. I’ve noticed some channels I follow, are shortening their responses or just give an agreed or Thumbs Up, a 100…. Something to also consider as it takes time to handle that I’m sure!!! Doug 😊
Hi Fred...Just found this. I have seen much of Austin's videos about the CF wheel issues. I recall there is a metal ring that fits inside the hub to keep the cone from contacting the wheel edge in that area. What gets me is all of what Austin discovered is known to Chevy. They provide cars with tires mounted on those wheels with no damage. They should have created a special manual describing what is necessary to perform this operation and should have developed a list of places that can assist with this or made a few Chevy dealers capable of performing tire changes in maybe larger communities. Beyond this, I see the potential for potholes not being your friend. I too see the handwriting on the wall for the reality of getting a Z06 at MSRP. I just got a call about one sitting on the floor if I liked white with a red/black interior and $75,000 over MSRP. Think I will pass on the E-Ray at the cost. Anxious about the ZR1...wondering if it will really have turbos. They haven't yet fixed the ticking of several of the LT6 engines yet they are coming out with a LT7?
Thanks for the update Fred. Alaska is amazing! Glad you and your wife had the opportunity to tour. I am also glad that you are taking time to enjoy yourself and not being tied down to a constant upload schedule - life is too short.
Whew… was just about to put you in the MIA file. Heading to LV to Ron Fellows Z06 school next week. This will be my 3rd time. 2 stingrays and now the Z06. Can’t wait to drive the Z on a track. Great video Fred. You still need to clean out the garage but the table is looking better. Carry on…
Fred Welcome back, so glad to see you on your podcast again, Z06 production as of June 30, 2023 is 4,000 Z06 produced Hang in there buddy your Z06 will be coming your way !! Have you decided on what color you will order on Z06 ? Looking forward to your next podcast
For one thing Chevrolet dealerships that sale and service the new C8 ZO6 should have been sent a memo from GM saying that the ZO6 with the carbon fiber wheels can not be service by the standard tire service machine and if they had , had no place trying to risk put their customers carbon fiber rims at risk for damage knowing that they had to purchase a new tire changing machine at a cost of $55,000 as to not damage the $5000 per carbon fiber wheels on the ZO6.
Fred, Great seeing you posting a video. I have been following Austin's trials & tribulations. Quite candidly I am not sure that going with the CF wheels & Cup 2 R tires is worth the probable hassle. I would never take my car to the chevy dealer here anyway. When I had my C5R-427 I had the dealer switch out the break pads to the track pads just before going to Road Atlanta. On the back straight away as I braked (at ~160 mph) to go into turn 10A, which is a 90° left, I had partial brake failure. I pulled off the track and the dealer had screwed up. Fortunately one of the other C5R-427 drivers had his crew there and they fixed the brakes. I am currently 75 at MM but on hold due to Z07 restrictions. I want the Z07, but I prefer forged wheels, which I cannot get with the Z07. So not sure what I will do. Take Care! Sully
@Pmtd1234 Ask your dealer, I know it's possible as I've seen the car at the dealer and I saw the build sheet. It was a Z07 with CCB and Black forged wheels.
Great Update, Fred! Sounds like you're really enjoying your time away from the camera! The pics of Alaska looked awesome and your Lemons update is coming along nicely too. Happy 4th and catch you on the next one!
Glad to see you back . Imagine the issues Chevy could have with Eray service ( almost all new platform ) with dealerships when the tire issue should have been thought about on the Z06 during the development stage . Have a great 4th !
It’s good to see a new video, glad you’ve been busy enjoying the toys in your toy box. I need to add my 2 cents, So are you saying that GM has wheels on a Corvette that get damaged, they have no solution and take no responsibility? As a C7 Z owner, that’s all too familiar. I hope you haven’t suffered a similar fate with you Grand Sport, it’s incredibly frustrating. Glad things are going well, and appreciate the update.
Z06 tires and alignment. The cars leave the factory aligned for track. This means they are cantered in for handling. This also means poor wear. If you plan on not going to the track have the dealer realign the car for NORMAL wear. This is better for drag strip and normal driving.
Hi Fred any idea about the latest with the LT6 ticking noise? Is it still being investigated? Or have they found a fix for it? Is it just on a small % of LT6 or do most of them have the engine problem? A friend’s allocation is coming up and I am worried since it’s way over his budget and if he gets the ticking problem then it would be a disaster for him. Should I tell him to wait a few months to see how GM handles the problem or it's not a big problem? Thanks for your help.
Many Chevy dealers, including one in the middle of a cornfield in IA, publicly called into question the veracity of Austin's claims about being unable to find a Chevy dealer to install his tires. Additionally, every Corvette Signature Dealer with whom I have spoken has the necessary equipment to work on carbon fiber wheels. It is part of what earns them that certification. Paragon Performance has an excellent video showing how easy it is to mount them. ruclips.net/video/tr4GAz15ofI/видео.html Surprisingly, I have heard numerous Corvette-centric channels and sites share Austin's woes, but none, not even CorvetteBlogger, have covered the responses from various dealers. I imagine the forums are the same way. Were the other dealers to which he reached out covering for the incompetence of the dealer that messed up his wheels? Possibly. So there is no reason to worry about these wheels if you take them to a qualified dealer. And there are hundreds of them across this great country.
I was in the mid 300's at Ciocca. Call me insane but I literally had just had it with all the delays and production drama over this car. My enthusiasm just plummeted to nothing. I requested and received my deposit back a couple weeks ago with no regrets. The car will soon be old news. Plus all this waiting around gave me the time to realize how silly it is to spend 125k msrp on a 2LZ convertible.
I did the same math and came to the same conclusion, I didn’t want to wait three years. Started watching BAT and found a new C06 convertible with no Z07 package, I wanted 4S tires not cups tires because I don’t track and 4S have two to three times tread life meaning I am not worrying about my carbon wheels for a couple of years, hopefully problem solved. Had to pay over list😢 still cheaper than my 992 Turbo S and enjoy the C06 as much if not more. Glad you are enjoying life, miss your old schedule.
Dealers are starting to purchase the proper tire changing machines for the carbon fiber wheels. Thx for the update & welcome back.
FANTASTIC & WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU!!!
Doug
Glad you are back!!!
Why am I so excited to see my name on a little whiteboard? IDK but I AM! I gave up my MM Z06 slot ~ 2200 because 1) I don’t think the C8 will stay in production long enough for my number to come up and 2) I have a low number at MM for an ERay. I WAS thinking about specifying CF wheels for it. I wasn’t sure if you were an EE or a Comp Sci guy. That’s resolved now. Alaska, right! Wife and I did almost that same trip. Life changing. You are making great progress on the Lemons car. Finally, your enthusiasm for this video is palpable. Welcome back!
Welcome back Fred... Great to see you again and what a pleasure to meet your wife. Here lurking for more content as you find the time!
I almost bought a Z06 with Z07 package and CF wheels but it was over my budget so at the end I finished buying a Z06 HTC anniversary edition
Lucky me
Now I'm feeling better after watching your video
thanks
WOW!!! I had no idea. This is serious.
Agreed.
Awww...Yeah... It's Fredday Again...ha ha ha 😂
Fred, welcome back my friend! Glad to see some new content from your channel!
Really great to hear about your family Alaska trip and then Wave runner right after 😁
Loving how the Lemon's project is coming along too! Keep up the great work and enjoy my friend!
53 👍 Currently
Be well
-Shane
Thanks for the update Fred, always great content. Hey GM, get your stuff together, ijs
Agreed on the Carbon Fiber Wheels!
I don’t know why anyone would want them for the Expense and Damage that almost certainly will occur.
Practicality Wise, unless you’re going to have a Museum Piece or Static Display, I don’t know why anyone would order them for the C8 ZO6/Z0Z!!!
You need another complete set of Wheels and Tires Dude! Forget about the time of a second or two you’ll drop as an occasional Track Performance Session.
Then the tires, so who has deep pockets to buy a Set of Cups after 2-3 Track Sessions. Besides tires there are other added expenses than tires alone. Mounting & Balancing fees, insurance fee possibly, alignment, finding a dealership willing to do the work, etc…
Yes, Check Out What Speed Phenom has gone through.
If I decide to get a ZO6 or an ERAY, no way will I go for the Carbon Fiber Wheels.
I see that Street Speed just picked up a ZO6/ZO7 for his channel. Probably will see a lot of content relative to his issues. He’s going to do a lot of mods I think, because he’s beyond a 6 month ownership as a second owner.
In another direction:
I had a 2012 Cruise to Alaska (didn’t do the Land Tour). Unfortunately, I started out the day we had to drive to Pittsburgh to catch out plane with a Kidney Stone. Took some heavy medication and made the flight to Vancouver.
On the ship, I had a few days under the weather and on mid-cruise I passed the stone. Missed out on the Dog Camp and a Float Plane Flight. Glad I missed the flight, because the Return Trip was by River Boat. Bad weather kept the plane grounded. The boat trip was really rough and a lot people got sick.
Alaska, everyone has a boat or a plane to get around.
Probably would not be a place most people would set up as to their retirement or maybe even a Time Share.
Thanks for the Great Update.
Good Luck working through the MacMulkin List.
Understand your situation with: Life Comes At You Fast as they say, do enjoy everything you can and get to RUclips as it fits.
I don’t know if people has any comprehension as to the amount of time that goes into production.
It’s more than taking a camera and shooting content.
Also, you’re probably overwhelmed in responding to comments. I’ve noticed some channels I follow, are shortening their responses or just give an agreed or Thumbs Up, a 100….
Something to also consider as it takes time to handle that I’m sure!!!
Doug 😊
I was just wondering where you've been! Good to hear from you. I hope your eye surgery went well. Hopefully its nothing too serious.
Hi Fred...Just found this. I have seen much of Austin's videos about the CF wheel issues. I recall there is a metal ring that fits inside the hub to keep the cone from contacting the wheel edge in that area. What gets me is all of what Austin discovered is known to Chevy. They provide cars with tires mounted on those wheels with no damage. They should have created a special manual describing what is necessary to perform this operation and should have developed a list of places that can assist with this or made a few Chevy dealers capable of performing tire changes in maybe larger communities. Beyond this, I see the potential for potholes not being your friend.
I too see the handwriting on the wall for the reality of getting a Z06 at MSRP. I just got a call about one sitting on the floor if I liked white with a red/black interior and $75,000 over MSRP.
Think I will pass on the E-Ray at the cost.
Anxious about the ZR1...wondering if it will really have turbos. They haven't yet fixed the ticking of several of the LT6 engines yet they are coming out with a LT7?
As always very informative and thorough provoking. Glad you are enjoying life.
Thanks for the update Fred. Alaska is amazing! Glad you and your wife had the opportunity to tour. I am also glad that you are taking time to enjoy yourself and not being tied down to a constant upload schedule - life is too short.
Whew… was just about to put you in the MIA file. Heading to LV to Ron Fellows Z06 school next week. This will be my 3rd time. 2 stingrays and now the Z06. Can’t wait to drive the Z on a track. Great video Fred. You still need to clean out the garage but the table is looking better. Carry on…
Just got back today from Ron Fellows. My first time. Loved it.
@@velocity313 did you drive a stingray or Z06. Trying to figure out what course they are using. Glad you had. a good time. It is a blast for $1k.
Glad you have been enjoying your time off ! Keep it up ! I enjoy your videos. Thanks
So great to hear from you again Fred! Sounds like a fascinating months. Cool to see another RIT t-shirt 😊
Fred
Welcome back, so glad to see you on your podcast again, Z06 production as of June 30, 2023 is 4,000 Z06 produced
Hang in there buddy your Z06 will be coming your way !!
Have you decided on what color you will order on Z06 ?
Looking forward to your next podcast
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY
GOD BLESS AMERICA ❤❤❤❤❤❤
For one thing Chevrolet dealerships that sale and service the new C8 ZO6 should have been sent a memo from GM saying that the ZO6 with the carbon fiber wheels can not be service by the standard tire service machine and if they had , had no place trying to risk put their customers carbon fiber rims at risk for damage knowing that they had to purchase a new tire changing machine at a cost of $55,000 as to not damage the $5000 per carbon fiber wheels on the ZO6.
Fred,
Great seeing you posting a video.
I have been following Austin's trials & tribulations. Quite candidly I am not sure that going with the CF wheels & Cup 2 R tires is worth the probable hassle. I would never take my car to the chevy dealer here anyway. When I had my C5R-427 I had the dealer switch out the break pads to the track pads just before going to Road Atlanta. On the back straight away as I braked (at ~160 mph) to go into turn 10A, which is a 90° left, I had partial brake failure. I pulled off the track and the dealer had screwed up. Fortunately one of the other C5R-427 drivers had his crew there and they fixed the brakes.
I am currently 75 at MM but on hold due to Z07 restrictions. I want the Z07, but I prefer forged wheels, which I cannot get with the Z07. So not sure what I will do.
Take Care!
Sully
You can get the Z07 package with or without the CF wheels, however you must buy the CCB.
@@pro5.019 I want the CCB but in the build module when I selected the forged wheels it removes the Z07.
@Pmtd1234 Ask your dealer, I know it's possible as I've seen the car at the dealer and I saw the build sheet. It was a Z07 with CCB and Black forged wheels.
@@pro5.019 Thanks!
Great Update, Fred! Sounds like you're really enjoying your time away from the camera! The pics of Alaska looked awesome and your Lemons update is coming along nicely too. Happy 4th and catch you on the next one!
Nice to see Fred!
@@kerry_glock Heck yeah!
When is your next vid, I can’t wait!!?
Fred thanks for the info! Always look forward to your videos. I'm now at 314 with MacMulkin!! Have a Happy 4th of July!!
Glad to see you back . Imagine the issues Chevy could have with Eray service ( almost all new platform ) with dealerships when the tire issue should have been thought about on the Z06 during the development stage . Have a great 4th !
It’s good to see a new video, glad you’ve been busy enjoying the toys in your toy box. I need to add my 2 cents, So are you saying that GM has wheels on a Corvette that get damaged, they have no solution and take no responsibility? As a C7 Z owner, that’s all too familiar. I hope you haven’t suffered a similar fate with you Grand Sport, it’s incredibly frustrating. Glad things are going well, and appreciate the update.
I'm sick of hearing about the C8 carbon this carbon that I'll keep my C7 Manuel Z51
He's trying to buy a Porsche
Z06 tires and alignment. The cars leave the factory aligned for track. This means they are cantered in for handling. This also means poor wear. If you plan on not going to the track have the dealer realign the car for NORMAL wear. This is better for drag strip and normal driving.
Fred, long time no see, hope all is well. Bought my C8 Stingray from MM, got a NCM delivery.
Buy Forgeline Wheels. Slightly heavier but you can drive your car. It’s difficult for Discount Tire to mount C7 ZO6 wheels. Clowns everywhere!
hows your build going? Update?
It's been way tooooo long, Fred.
Sup, Fred
Hi Fred any idea about the latest with the LT6 ticking noise? Is it still being investigated? Or have they found a fix for it? Is it just on a small % of LT6 or do most of them have the engine problem? A friend’s allocation is coming up and I am worried since it’s way over his budget and if he gets the ticking problem then it would be a disaster for him. Should I tell him to wait a few months to see how GM handles the problem or it's not a big problem? Thanks for your help.
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The C8 & Z06 would be a MUCH BETTER car withOUT Runflat Tires
Many Chevy dealers, including one in the middle of a cornfield in IA, publicly called into question the veracity of Austin's claims about being unable to find a Chevy dealer to install his tires. Additionally, every Corvette Signature Dealer with whom I have spoken has the necessary equipment to work on carbon fiber wheels. It is part of what earns them that certification.
Paragon Performance has an excellent video showing how easy it is to mount them. ruclips.net/video/tr4GAz15ofI/видео.html
Surprisingly, I have heard numerous Corvette-centric channels and sites share Austin's woes, but none, not even CorvetteBlogger, have covered the responses from various dealers. I imagine the forums are the same way.
Were the other dealers to which he reached out covering for the incompetence of the dealer that messed up his wheels? Possibly.
So there is no reason to worry about these wheels if you take them to a qualified dealer. And there are hundreds of them across this great country.
I was in the mid 300's at Ciocca. Call me insane but I literally had just had it with all the delays and production drama over this car. My enthusiasm just plummeted to nothing. I requested and received my deposit back a couple weeks ago with no regrets. The car will soon be old news. Plus all this waiting around gave me the time to realize how silly it is to spend 125k msrp on a 2LZ convertible.
Well...everything new becomes...old.