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Man the 911 never fails to impress. You throw it up against any sports car and it always shows you what German engineering is capable of. Being the least powerful and still keeping up with the Corvette, which is a lot more powerful, is just impressive.
And again, it's the entry level.. I wonder if you put it and the 'vette on a dyno what numbers would come up... I don't expect the published ones based on those drag races. ;-)
@@mikerobinson7988 More likely the Corvette numbers are accurate and the 911 is downgraded so it doesn't compete against the "Turbo" model, even though it's still a turbo. 11.8 Quarter Mile, seems accurate to me. The 911 is overachieving for it's numbers, though not it's price.
Well, it's a 911 Turbo in reality right, it's published numbers are likely downgraded so it doesn't compete against the "Turbo" model which sells for a lot more. For costing $10,000 more than the Vette, I actually expected it to perform similarly.
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Its the base model Corvette as well. A turbo-charged Z06 model is coming next year which should be good competition for the Porsche 911 turbo. We should see (the Z06 ) competing at Le Mans next month in GTE class against top model Porsche 911 turbos, Lambos and Ferraris (perhaps Aston as well)
Porsches manage to put the power down brilliantly always... Added to the fact that they are "conservative" with power and Performance figures per each model and you have the recipe for that results
The Porsche is amazing. And it's the "ENTRY LEVEL" Porsche. Everytime I see a Porsche in a race on this channel I expect to see something incredible LOL
yeah the awd version (if launched properly) have recorded 1/4 times of around 10.6 seconds, which is the same time as the amg gt black series which is impressive (sure the amg gt black series is a track focused car not a drag race car, but still)
After watching this and Seen through glass test of the base 911 I think that’s the trim I would chose. I love the anti bling styling it’s just an amazing car! I love it!
@@watsonanthony8438 remember kid. The C8 is base as well or did you forget and second last I've checked even the base 911 is still a supercar so...........your point bro ?
@@flyclyfire188 the vette ain't no supercar its just a mid engine car with a high gear ratio. It seems fast bc of its fast start at launch. The C8 lost to every car during the roll race and the car is marked up beyond its MSRP at least by 30k. Imagine if the Porsche and C8 was racing on a road course instead of the straight away, the Porsche would destroy the vette. Don't forget the Porsche has less hp as well lol. Take the L
yeah, the most expensive and the slowest plus it has more power then they declared which is idiotic. But it’s a good car because of many other things we didn’t see today like quality, reliability I guess, and many technical details, You also pay to research and development
Great video Carwow! We should have more of this. Normally German cars (BMW, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes) are only compared with each other. Hardly we see comparisons between the Germans and other manufacturers.
If the Porsche's performance against the Corvette were just due to power being more than claimed then with its inherently superior traction it would win off the line as well as in the rolling races. Yet its superiority is more clear the higher the speeds. It must be that the total drag on the Porsche is much lower than the Corvette
It’s defintely down to drag and not like everybody here’s claiming the underrated power figures. The 911 has a very aerodynamic shape and low drag. Which is also why it’s relatively fuel efficient on the motorway (around 35-40mpg).
100 horsepower and y’all talking about drag against that corvette ? The porche is not going against a big square mini van when drag matters cmon now ….. don’t let educate y’all on drag smh
What? The 911 was never ahead at any point so what are u saying superior traction? What's actually happening is Porsche underates the true power at the crank in all its models. It makes far more than it reports/advertises so its not drag. Porsche reports Cd (coefficient of drag) of 2022 911 in its most efficient configuration having a minimum cd value of 0.33 (achieved with closed flaps and retracted front and rear spoilers). Corvette reports the Cd of its base model C8 with a value of 0.32. i.e. its the power that is the factor for Porsche.
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Some are missing how efficient Porsches drivetrain is. The rear mounted engine reduces the loss in power you typically see with other setups due to where the engine is placed and how it's directly connected to the transmission. Also, as we all know, they underestimate their figures.
@@C5Z06CarGuy No, they don't. How can they if two are mid engine and one is rear engine? If you're talking about the very basics, rear wheel drive, then you'd be correct. That doesn't define a drivetrain on the technical side. Google it
Corvette uses the same small block engine used on Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon/Chevy Tahoe with higher output. It is also used in Chevy Express/GMC Savana vans and it sounds great even in vans
The Corvette is cheap for reasons...and that Porsche is a little more expensive also for reasons. 100bhp less but still faster. Amazing piece of engineering.
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Problem is that the Corvette is a lardass. It's close to 1800 kg in the real world. On top of that the Porsche is more slippery and have a smaller frontal area.
@@UrMomsChaufferI believe they have dyno’d some porches and they pushed about 50 brake more than quoted by Porsche. I wouldn’t doubt this “385 hp” Porsche is actually pushing around 415-430 brake
To bypass the soft limiter on most of them, after your vehicle is warmed up, put your drivetrain in neutral (instead of Park), that will usually allow you to rev to full RPM.
@@CollineinfachCollinex Of course, it's a turbocharged motor, just like the much more expensive 911 Turbo. They don't want to get too close to the numbers of a higher profit trim or model. It's still $10,000 more than the Corvette, it should perform like a nearly 100K car it is.
Remember power to weight ratio is the key for these tests, the 911 is a bit over 3,100 lbs in that configuration, corvette 3,700 and R8 3,700 to 3,900 lbs makes a difference its like putting 3 adults the car.....
R8 is the best here hands down. 911 is what you called refined engineering, its been perfected to perform so well with so little. Corvette is best bang for your buck, its less than half the price of the r8 or 911.
@@hamzazoaoui not really, 10,000 difference but you get a lot more quality. Also, everything isn't about straight line performance, how 911s feel to drive around twisty roads is just something else.
@@romuloaugusto4052 You know you've lost an argument when you have to bring up the history of an automotive company. We just going to ignore that both Ford and General Motors supported the Third Reich or no?
Crazy how the 911 has less performance than some hot hatches yet it'd decimate them in the drags, on top of that we need to see Audi bring back then V8 RWD R8
Wont happen. Tha R8 is dead after that gen due to emmision laws and shit in EU which is a shame. Such a beautiful car. Both looks wise and engine wise. Also bring back a RWD V8 R8? As far as I know the V8 R8s were only available with quattro
@@Admonitor_ look at them first gen they had rwd v8 r8s they was the quad exit tail pipes and it's a shame as the r8 is like the best of both worlds supercar really fast and powerful yet surprisingly affordable
@@bradmartland5723 quad tailpipes on the first gen was the V8 Model, right. (At least before the facelift) But every first gen R8 was AWD. There are some tuned first gens where they disconnected the front diff to make them RWD only. But from factory there were no RWD V8s ever made. Rhe coolest R8 ever made was a concept with a mid mounted V12 TDI. That would have been a unicorn
@@bradmartland5723 i know they were affordable and a very good looking car, but they were taking l's from M3s M5s M6s and even other audis like the rs6
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My guess is alsl you need to shortshift that C8 at like 6k instead of revving it. You need to look at the power/torque curve, you re just losing power. Also that Vette is sick being the cheapest of the bunch.
@@josephbargo5024 True, but the ACR's are beastly and iconic in the very least. Would fare well in the rolling segment, I would like to believe. I know they haven't made em in 5 years, but I think people would still tune in if a 16 or 17 model was in the thumbnail.
Somebody lied. I don't know if anyone knows how HP and TQ work, but lighter weight doesn't equate to a higher top end. So, with 100 less hp, the Porsche shouldn't be pulling on the C8 up top. So I say again, somebody lied. Whether it was Chevy or Porsche, idk.
just remembering that this C8 in the video is the slowest of all for a few reasons. it's convertible, so it weighs about 80lbs more than the C8 coupe. this one tested is the european version which has 13hp less. and the Z51 package has the drag coefficient of 0.39 and without the Z51 package it is 0.32 so on a base Coupe the time is around 11.2
Another question, why do you only race over the 1/2 mile now instead of the mile? Have the land owners put restrictions on you achieving those speeds or is it a contractual limitation with carwow or the owners of the cars on insurance? I'd like to know why it's changed if possible.
Ah yes… because a Lamborghini engine definitely should race against a base model Porsche at half the price. The C8 and Porsche are $10-11k different. Pick a turbo for the R8 then see what happens. Turbo s for the R8 v10+
@@Yinyang1277 I think you’re confusing the regular V10 to the AWD V10 plus (there regular RWD R8 V10 is shown in this vid which is not double the price of the base 911)
@@BB-fl3ss lol the RWD doesn’t make a world of a difference even comparing the specs. Ok sorry there is a $50k difference over half of another RWD 911 then. An AWD 911 costs more than the price listed in this video.
Those engines are as much about a nice powerband / low end torque for street, and that lovely NA throttle response as they are about peak power figures. The engine is also a lot lighter than the other two.
Porsches always produce 30 to 60 crank hp more than advertized, and they are rear engined so there is MUCH less drivetrain loss. Also, the PDK transmission doesn't hurt. That said, if Matt used the paddles on the corvette manually, the vette would've performed quite a bit better. Chevrolet has always made the corvette quicker if you shift the gears yourself even with the dual clutch and 'automatics'.
@@aaronvector4750 they don’t advertise that much lower than reality, atleast for NA cars. c8 is also rear/mid engined so power loss isn’t a legit factor. Pdk is better obviously but vette still has a dct too so it’s not far off. And paddles def don’t make it faster. It’s pretty commonly known that unless you’re going around a track, the trans knows when to shift better than you
@@aaronvector4750 How do you 'know' Porsche have between 30 and 60 more crank horsepower? You don't and that's wild supposition on your part with nothing to back it up. There's no way flipping the paddles would be quicker with that transmission, not a prayer. As for the Porsche having far less power loss through the shorter transmission that's mostly pure fallacy. It may be shorter but it's still got to throw the power 90 degrees from the engine which is the main reason for driven losses anyway, that and frictional losses through the gear sets especially where helical gears are concerned.
Loved the drone's "weeee ooweee ooowweeepp" at the launch at 5:00 to 5:03 which sounded like it too was revving up alongside the cars for the drag-race.
That's what happens when the C8 gets compared to its recent competitors. I also wrote that the C8 barely beats the 911 Carrera in the drag race in Speciale vs C8 video.
I'm guessing that the Porsche has a higher rev limiter and stays in the power longer than the C8 because of gearing. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine the weight difference between the two affects the performance this much. (also aero, but still.)
Aerodynamics play a role. It's not just about the drag coefficient (which i suppose will be better with the more smooth porsche shape) but also the cross section area. The corvette is pretty wide and for sure has a bigger cross section as the 911. Still, all considered the 100 hp difference schould still have been visible in the races. Also there's an often unexpected reason why cars of Audi, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes occasionally are dynoed with quite more power than they officially should have. -> When the dyno crews are not aware that the engine software already compensates for sea level and temperature, and so they let the dyno software compensate for that. -> double compensation when in actual fact the car only produced what it's supposed to. (Sure the compensation of the engine software has it's limits, so if you live in mexico city, they won't make the power it has on paper...) Read about the issue years ago from a german car magazine which had the same issue at first.
Corvettes were always a cheap, powerful workhorse. It’s why they sell so well. It’s a more affordable performance car that can beat a lot of cars that cost significantly more. Although, I have a feeling that Porsche engineers focus on everything but the engine power, while the Corvette takes an old-fashioned approach with a bigger engine and more gears.
They biggest issue with the 911 is the exhaust sound. Sounds like a Dyson vacuum. Otherwise, it excels in everything. If there is no sound, there is no soul.
Sngh, you are correct about the sound. Try visiting your local drag strip and see how these cars really run. The base Porsche (992) will still be on the track when the C8 is done.
@@ronretired282 going to the track in a few weeks with my brothers GT3 RS so definitely aware of what these cars are capable of 😊. Certain 911s are special 😉
The heroic proportions are just gone on it. Never been a fan of mid engined proportions. Always preferred the long hood short deck proportions of cars like the E type or 250 GTO or older corvettes and Vipers or the 2000GT. The C7 design grew on me after a while but I honestly don't think this one will especially with how much worse the rear end looks compared to the C7
Its funny because there aren't any videos of the C8 doing under 3 sec 0-60 using accurate timing equipment like Vbox or Dragy. The only time it is under 3 is when using the horribly inaccurate in-car timer. That is why a car like the 911 with 100 less hp can keep up.
@@EK-rr2md remember, the c8 is atmo so timing must include calculation for altitude. Also, this is a euro spec car which is less powerful due to exhaust requirements.
The Porsche is just as fast as the Corvette with an engine half the size and a quarter less power. Sorry but this is once again the perfect example of German engineering. Perfection.
What about the times American shitboxes beat German and European cars on the dragstrip and on the 'Ring? An old Saleen S7 would smoke every 911 except maybe the GT2 and GT3 or Turbo S off the line.
Porsche sells worldwide and their customer with difficult environment like high altitude (eg Swiss alps) or erxtreme heat (eg Dubai, or Saudi Arabia) also want that the cars have the power as promised, so there is a reserve between the specs and real performance in "normal" environment. ruclips.net/video/DNUUx1IvVw4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/cSA0EN1eSNo/видео.html
This American is smart enough to know that you never underestimate German horsepower! I was rooting for the Porsche the whole time, but that R8 is super impressive! And I think it’s very cool that a company known for superior all-wheel-drive systems would revert to a rear wheel drive only platform. Give the people what they want…
Hey mat, i dont know if my comment a about a month ago asking for a base model supercar race went into the decision to do this race, but if it did, im very happy you did it! Great race
What on earth are Porsche putting in their engines? It was a 100bhp down but still kep up with the Corvette. Let's all admit it, Porsche designs the best engines.
@Michael Charity reply with scientific evidence also, as mentioned, these modern boosted Porsches make way more power than the brochure suggests, hence the 100hp deficit is probably nothing in real terms, also boosted cars lose less/no power the higher the altitude, so whats the track’s altitude above sea level? Probably not a lot considering its in the Uk but still a few percentages. All of these factors attributes to the race being as close as it was. Drag only starts to make a noticeable difference at very high speed, also as you mentioned in the end of the rolling races this also starts to be a factor. A Base 911 in manual must be bliss.
@@semicolon101 you say Porsche under estimates it’s Hp numbers, what if the c8 doesn’t make it’s claimed 480 Hp and actually makes less? Have you ever thought about that? 🤔
@@joshsan32 haters will always be haters. Considering you probably can't afford either. Most ppl are pissed that an American C8 beat a Porsche. Get use to it. When the Z06 comes out there will be more
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The top down view with the drone for the break test is amazing. Would love to see a similar view for the 1/4 finish line.
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@@jpslaym0936 that must be it
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Man the 911 never fails to impress. You throw it up against any sports car and it always shows you what German engineering is capable of. Being the least powerful and still keeping up with the Corvette, which is a lot more powerful, is just impressive.
Truth. Its like they freaking lie about the Porsche's specs everytime🤣
And again, it's the entry level.. I wonder if you put it and the 'vette on a dyno what numbers would come up... I don't expect the published ones based on those drag races. ;-)
@@mikerobinson7988 More likely the Corvette numbers are accurate and the 911 is downgraded so it doesn't compete against the "Turbo" model, even though it's still a turbo. 11.8 Quarter Mile, seems accurate to me. The 911 is overachieving for it's numbers, though not it's price.
Well, it's a 911 Turbo in reality right, it's published numbers are likely downgraded so it doesn't compete against the "Turbo" model which sells for a lot more. For costing $10,000 more than the Vette, I actually expected it to perform similarly.
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For a base 911, you’ve got to applaud it.
Its the base model Corvette as well. A turbo-charged Z06 model is coming next year which should be good competition for the Porsche 911 turbo. We should see (the Z06 ) competing at Le Mans next month in GTE class against top model Porsche 911 turbos, Lambos and Ferraris (perhaps Aston as well)
@@jpslaym0936 the zo6 is going to be naturally aspirated which is crazy considering the power figures
@@jpslaym0936 porsche uses no turbos in GT class at lemans ;) N/A
@@jpslaym0936 it won’t stand a chance against the turbo
@@realitykicksin8755 for a base porsche with 100 less horsepower... 3 liters less displacement... you got to applaud it
The sound of the corvette in the cabin is just amazing, beautiful grunt
The real world performance of the 911 is always better than it should be. Impressive and all very cool cars!
@Akma cute it doesn’t matter ..the cream always rises to the top
@@Alex-1750 yep. Always outclassed most of those cars in drag races.
That's because German car companies are notorious for undervaluing the stats.
Cause they’re liars lol
They understate the power for sure. And American cars are just slow
R8 looks so good in that blue! Very interesting match up of the Porsche and that C8.
Are there other colors I’ve never seen another one but blue in garages. Maybe one white one
Porsches manage to put the power down brilliantly always... Added to the fact that they are "conservative" with power and Performance figures per each model and you have the recipe for that results
Maybe the actual spec of the porsche would be like 410-20 HP? And the torque a little bit more than what was shown?
Conservative? Oh you mean they lie.
@@delusion2987 Vette has 100HP more than the Porsche...but I guess Porsche has much better power delivery and better drivetrain. Also better aero.
@@delusion2987 Corvettes also specialized on power and accelerations.
@@Samosayummyyay yup. 100bhp more but also only 10kph increase.
3:45 anyone else notice the drone scampering after the cars? That's AMAZING. The addition of the drone shots is great!
The view from behind with the drone is INSANE love it!!
The Porsche is amazing. And it's the "ENTRY LEVEL" Porsche. Everytime I see a Porsche in a race on this channel I expect to see something incredible LOL
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C8 is a bucket full of plastic 😂😂😂
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@@faz_s there is literally almost zero plastic in the entire corvette interior lol. Such a clown
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I'm really amazed by the r8 i wasn't expecting the rwd to reach 11 seconds on the 1/4 mile
yeah the awd version (if launched properly) have recorded 1/4 times of around 10.6 seconds, which is the same time as the amg gt black series which is impressive (sure the amg gt black series is a track focused car not a drag race car, but still)
@@nerocladius4319 Yeah, that's crazy for an NA engine
@@stefanomarchi3542 exactly, compared to a torquey American v8 and the porsches turbo torque, I thought the r8 would get destroyed off the line.
@@nerocladius4319 the 4wd version only has 474bhp.
@@stefanomarchi3542 crazy fast too. The Corvette C8 even can accelerate 0 to 60 in only 1.8 seconds.
Audi r8 is such a great car and actually looks good too. Love it!
It's so weird seeing an R8 being rear wheel drive😅
and yet so lovely :-) What a sound!
if only they brought back the gated manual you could have the greatest R8 ever
@@Obi-WanKannabis it's Italian cousin takes care of that 😊
@@mikerobinson7988 yep. Even so more lovely than the Mazda 787B.
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Very happy as an Audi fan.Thanks Matt
I love all these 3 cars! The way they perform and the look is absolutely insane!
Even though the Audi is way off into the sunset !
They are only two cars which performs
all with significant price differences
@@theweeknd2725 and yet the corvette does not perform. The corvette have more than 100hp more than the Porsche
@@theweeknd2725 that’s Pathetic
After watching this and Seen through glass test of the base 911 I think that’s the trim I would chose. I love the anti bling styling it’s just an amazing car! I love it!
Boring styling
That R8 hooks up really well considering RWD
The weight is in the right place for it!
3 very different cars and I love them all in their own way, however not surprised by the R8 it is a supercar up against 2 sports cars.
911 is a supercar
The corvette is also a supercar its just a cheap supercar
@@flyclyfire188 vette ain't no supercar. It struggled against a base 911 and rwd base r8 lol
@@watsonanthony8438 remember kid. The C8 is base as well or did you forget and second last I've checked even the base 911 is still a supercar so...........your point bro ?
@@flyclyfire188 the vette ain't no supercar its just a mid engine car with a high gear ratio. It seems fast bc of its fast start at launch. The C8 lost to every car during the roll race and the car is marked up beyond its MSRP at least by 30k. Imagine if the Porsche and C8 was racing on a road course instead of the straight away, the Porsche would destroy the vette. Don't forget the Porsche has less hp as well lol. Take the L
The sportier look and the way how the Porsche 911 performs shows us how clever German engineers are. It's a absolutely insane car!
yeah, the most expensive and the slowest plus it has more power then they declared which is idiotic. But it’s a good car because of many other things we didn’t see today like quality, reliability I guess, and many technical details, You also pay to research and development
@@rotorblade9508 this comment comes from such an emotional place....
@@rotorblade9508 since the differece is bigger on higher speeds, i guess its more aero than Power ;)
Edit. Matt also mentioned it..
Definitely the germans are best at making tanks* i mean cars sorry
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Drone footage on the corvette drift was 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 @02:52... Carwow upping their game.
I can watch the corvette and 911 go at it another 100 times!😂👏🏼
That R8 😍 keep the Audi's coming 🔥🔥🔥
I have a 2011 A8 and I can agree Audi is amazing.
had two s3, 2 of the latest RS3s and now a RS5 carbon black two doors... love em !! respect to the R8 and AMFAO to the Vet
The Corvette and the entry level 911 are bargains compared to that R8, but all of them did really well.
Great video Carwow! We should have more of this. Normally German cars (BMW, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes) are only compared with each other. Hardly we see comparisons between the Germans and other manufacturers.
Brilliant video as always, Carwow!
Not on this channel
thats bc the germans win anyways
I owned a RWD R8 and man are those cars impressive. Even on wet grounds it hooks up great!
Nice pfp
If the Porsche's performance against the Corvette were just due to power being more than claimed then with its inherently superior traction it would win off the line as well as in the rolling races. Yet its superiority is more clear the higher the speeds. It must be that the total drag on the Porsche is much lower than the Corvette
It’s defintely down to drag and not like everybody here’s claiming the underrated power figures.
The 911 has a very aerodynamic shape and low drag. Which is also why it’s relatively fuel efficient on the motorway (around 35-40mpg).
Lower drag area less weight and shorter gearing ratio makes the score to 911
100 horsepower and y’all talking about drag against that corvette ? The porche is not going against a big square mini van when drag matters cmon now ….. don’t let educate y’all on drag smh
@@infanteirving yep totally agree, drag would not affect a 100hp difference, these cars need to be dyno'd
What? The 911 was never ahead at any point so what are u saying superior traction? What's actually happening is Porsche underates the true power at the crank in all its models. It makes far more than it reports/advertises so its not drag. Porsche reports Cd (coefficient of drag) of 2022 911 in its most efficient configuration having a minimum cd value of 0.33 (achieved with closed flaps and retracted front and rear spoilers). Corvette reports the Cd of its base model C8 with a value of 0.32. i.e. its the power that is the factor for Porsche.
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Some are missing how efficient Porsches drivetrain is. The rear mounted engine reduces the loss in power you typically see with other setups due to where the engine is placed and how it's directly connected to the transmission. Also, as we all know, they underestimate their figures.
You do realize all 3 of those cars have the same drivetrain configuration in relation to how their engine and transmission is connectd right?
@@C5Z06CarGuy They don't
@@C5Z06CarGuy No, they don't. How can they if two are mid engine and one is rear engine? If you're talking about the very basics, rear wheel drive, then you'd be correct. That doesn't define a drivetrain on the technical side. Google it
@@JoeJacksonGT3 he is american, what would he know about cars?
They are pretty similar in terms of distance to the wheel. I think it's the gearing of the porsche to be closer ratio than the Vette at higher gears.
those drone shots.. stunning! great work
Well this Porsche is not the turbo s...it's just 911 entry level...still performed pretty well
I mean putting turbo s in that category won't be fair ,
@@anandpushkar7510 but the competition had much more HP
@@adityarock5002 it was a RWD drag race to
@@adityarock5002 within the same price range
@@adityarock5002 but is it in the same price range?
Matt...you've got the best job in the World! The performance of the entry level 911 amazes me!
Corvette uses the same small block engine used on Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon/Chevy Tahoe with higher output. It is also used in Chevy Express/GMC Savana vans and it sounds great even in vans
It's got a Bitchin Camaro motor!
The Corvette is cheap for reasons...and that Porsche is a little more expensive also for reasons. 100bhp less but still faster. Amazing piece of engineering.
I’m pretty sure the corvette is significantly cheaper in the US
@ Are you suggesting a Corvette could beat a Porsche around a track because it has some little wings on the back?
@@ryanpinder9053 down force isnt all about little wings on the back my friend
Are you also forgetting this is a totally new direction for Corvette. Mid engine and the engine itself.
You guys seem to not understand that the Porsche is forced induction vs naturally aspirated engine along with them sandbagging the power numbers
Mat your insane videos never fails to entertain, amaze and excite us! Keep making insane videos! I love you so much Mat!
Why do you hate him?
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@@nebiyu7001 GT 2005 also still better.
The 911 is the most perfect car ever made.
Yep. Also perfect for circuit racing.
Wait until the C8 Z06
nope
@@yusufgta4341 Catches the Turbo S? It might be a long wait.
Not really. But keep rubbing your cock
Would really love to see these on a dyno. Wish you had access to one, or were able to make videos of that.
Problem is that the Corvette is a lardass. It's close to 1800 kg in the real world. On top of that the Porsche is more slippery and have a smaller frontal area.
@@AB-80X I'm not questioning any of that. I'm questioning Porsche's constantly conservative power quotes.
@@UrMomsChaufferI believe they have dyno’d some porches and they pushed about 50 brake more than quoted by Porsche. I wouldn’t doubt this “385 hp” Porsche is actually pushing around 415-430 brake
To bypass the soft limiter on most of them, after your vehicle is warmed up, put your drivetrain in neutral (instead of Park), that will usually allow you to rev to full RPM.
Doesn't work on my '22 R8. Neutral will still have the 3K soft limit. A cheat is to rev the engine in launch control without actually launching it.
@@adamk9830warm the car up and it goes to 6k, we have videos of our R8 going to 6k while on neutral
@adamk9830 how's the R8 treating you? It's a dream car but I felt like asking someone that has one
@@adamk9830can you get that coded out?
I love the drone shots❤❤ thank you team for this❤
Thats why i love saturday mornings! Great video, Mat!
Agreed! CarWow is the first thing I look fwd to when I get up on Saturday morning.
Someone is lying about their power lol. Everyone knows that BMW, Porsche and Mercedes are infamous for underrated hp numbers.
Lovin' the aerial drone shots as you're warming your tyres...!
Looks amazing 😎
3:10 that was the best drift ever on carwow
Turns out 385 German horse power is equal to 485 american horse power 😂
very impressed by the porsche what it can do with such little displacement.
I was going to write exactly that haha 😄🙌🏻
Put the porsche on a dyno and it will show about 420bhp! 😂👊
@@Gentlemen_london_ which would still be 65 less lol
And there is a reason why they state 385
@@CollineinfachCollinex Of course, it's a turbocharged motor, just like the much more expensive 911 Turbo. They don't want to get too close to the numbers of a higher profit trim or model. It's still $10,000 more than the Corvette, it should perform like a nearly 100K car it is.
@@gpaje for 10k extra your getting a superior vehicle. Build quality is on another level
Remember power to weight ratio is the key for these tests, the 911 is a bit over 3,100 lbs in that configuration, corvette 3,700 and R8 3,700 to 3,900 lbs makes a difference its like putting 3 adults the car.....
Love the new drone shots. Adds a nice touch
Excellent drag race as always.
👍👍👍👍
Damn! I'm a Porsche owner, but I was definitely rooting for the Corvette!
It's so beautiful
Owning a boxster or old Porsche suv are not considered a Porsche owner lol
@@KimChi4Life what defines a porsche owner?
@@KimChi4Life Says the person who probably doesn’t even own a home…
@@KimChi4Life A porsche is a porsche dimwit.
R8 is the best here hands down. 911 is what you called refined engineering, its been perfected to perform so well with so little. Corvette is best bang for your buck, its less than half the price of the r8 or 911.
Great video like always, great video editing, h appreciate the drone footage and the amazing graphic illustrations. 👌❤️
I'd still choose the Porsche, all day everyday 🤣✌️
R8 for me
Yessssssssssssssssss 👏
It's a nice car but, shame it doesn't have v8 or v10 & soft limiter ruins the fun... ☹️
@@Thapanirmal Porsches aren't built to impress people while standing still. They do their thing best while moving
@@alexsimon9032 What? V8s and V10s impress while moving
Porsche Engineers Must Be Really Proud Of Themselves Watching This Video. 🔥
Well they have the price to compensate
But You Dont Have To Type Like That.
@@hamzazoaoui not really, 10,000 difference but you get a lot more quality. Also, everything isn't about straight line performance, how 911s feel to drive around twisty roads is just something else.
Porsche= nazism
@@romuloaugusto4052 You know you've lost an argument when you have to bring up the history of an automotive company. We just going to ignore that both Ford and General Motors supported the Third Reich or no?
That Gymkanna move, backing the Porsche onto the start line almost dead ass perfectly after warming the tires was skills.
Crazy how the 911 has less performance than some hot hatches yet it'd decimate them in the drags, on top of that we need to see Audi bring back then V8 RWD R8
Wont happen. Tha R8 is dead after that gen due to emmision laws and shit in EU which is a shame. Such a beautiful car. Both looks wise and engine wise.
Also bring back a RWD V8 R8? As far as I know the V8 R8s were only available with quattro
@@Admonitor_ look at them first gen they had rwd v8 r8s they was the quad exit tail pipes and it's a shame as the r8 is like the best of both worlds supercar really fast and powerful yet surprisingly affordable
@@bradmartland5723 quad tailpipes on the first gen was the V8 Model, right. (At least before the facelift) But every first gen R8 was AWD. There are some tuned first gens where they disconnected the front diff to make them RWD only. But from factory there were no RWD V8s ever made.
Rhe coolest R8 ever made was a concept with a mid mounted V12 TDI. That would have been a unicorn
@@bradmartland5723 i know they were affordable and a very good looking car, but they were taking l's from M3s M5s M6s and even other audis like the rs6
Bro what are you on?? There is not one factory hot hatch with better performance than a 911!
0:01 intro
1:41 soundcheck
3:27 drag race #1
4:25 drag race #2
5:04 drag race #3
5:49 result
6:11 rolling race #1
7:03 rolling race #2
8:26 brake test
Oh, my god😯😯😯
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@@alunesh12345 allahu akbar
That V10 will always be my favourite engine. Such art
My guess is alsl you need to shortshift that C8 at like 6k instead of revving it. You need to look at the power/torque curve, you re just losing power.
Also that Vette is sick being the cheapest of the bunch.
1:32 specs 1:45 sound comparison 3:30 race starts
The first generation Audi R8 is so much more beautiful than this second Gen
Agreed. The first generation looks better
The new drone shots are lit! Super curious to see if they place the drone near the tyres of a car doing burnouts
Hey, Mat. I'm genuinely curious. Why have you never had a Dodge Viper in a drag race? Are they just that rare and hard to get in the UK?
The viper isn’t really anything special in a straight line and it hasn’t been sold for quite a while
@@josephbargo5024 you are subbed to the weeknd nice
They are Rare to get in the UK yes, because it needs to be imported and everything all the way over atlantic ocean 🌊 but viper is a mega V8 for sure
@@theweeknd2725 *V10
@@josephbargo5024 True, but the ACR's are beastly and iconic in the very least. Would fare well in the rolling segment, I would like to believe. I know they haven't made em in 5 years, but I think people would still tune in if a 16 or 17 model was in the thumbnail.
Somebody lied. I don't know if anyone knows how HP and TQ work, but lighter weight doesn't equate to a higher top end. So, with 100 less hp, the Porsche shouldn't be pulling on the C8 up top. So I say again, somebody lied. Whether it was Chevy or Porsche, idk.
If it's possible, I'd love to see a drag race with a dodge viper
R8 my dream car, what a beautiful car and even better performance! That video was a good ones for the Audi fans ahahaha
just remembering that this C8 in the video is the slowest of all for a few reasons. it's convertible, so it weighs about 80lbs more than the C8 coupe. this one tested is the european version which has 13hp less. and the Z51 package has the drag coefficient of 0.39 and without the Z51 package it is 0.32 so on a base Coupe the time is around 11.2
You're right euro corvettes are quite a bit slower than US spec as they're detuned to comply with regulations.
... and Mat didn't put it in track mode for some reason. The third time he's neglected to do that.
Excuses
@@DanielHernandez-uq4dw why? I'm telling facts. clown
@@DanielHernandez-uq4dw I own a C8. All this makes a difference. Still don't understand why Track Mode is forbidden in Mat's tests.
They had to start running the base Porsche because the Turbo S kept crushing everything.
All of us totally forgot about one thing! And that's the Mat vs Yianni foot race!
Ugh, I'll take that base 911 all day. So beautiful; will age so well.
Corvette cheaper and quickest
Another question, why do you only race over the 1/2 mile now instead of the mile? Have the land owners put restrictions on you achieving those speeds or is it a contractual limitation with carwow or the owners of the cars on insurance? I'd like to know why it's changed if possible.
Good question
Would like to know too.
I’m pretty sure they do it some videos and some they don’t
I’ve seen it in other videos
@@RanveerSidhu they did it in old vids but not new vids
those drone shots look really really good tho, i love them
Man that Audi literally left the others in the dust 🔥
It was supposed to win. Look at the time it ran 11s ?
And literally had about 150 more hp 😆 🤣
Ah yes… because a Lamborghini engine definitely should race against a base model Porsche at half the price. The C8 and Porsche are $10-11k different. Pick a turbo for the R8 then see what happens. Turbo s for the R8 v10+
@@Yinyang1277 I think you’re confusing the regular V10 to the AWD V10 plus (there regular RWD R8 V10 is shown in this vid which is not double the price of the base 911)
@@BB-fl3ss lol the RWD doesn’t make a world of a difference even comparing the specs. Ok sorry there is a $50k difference over half of another RWD 911 then. An AWD 911 costs more than the price listed in this video.
Surprising that a 6.2 liter V8 produces just about 480hp, 6.2liters is good for 750hp.
Its the entry level and NA. There will be more powerfull Versions later
yes yes if you want an engine with less longevity. Corvettes will be daily driven unlike a Ferrari n/a.
Those engines are as much about a nice powerband / low end torque for street, and that lovely NA throttle response as they are about peak power figures. The engine is also a lot lighter than the other two.
Porsches always produce 30 to 60 crank hp more than advertized, and they are rear engined so there is MUCH less drivetrain loss. Also, the PDK transmission doesn't hurt. That said, if Matt used the paddles on the corvette manually, the vette would've performed quite a bit better. Chevrolet has always made the corvette quicker if you shift the gears yourself even with the dual clutch and 'automatics'.
Most of your comment is false lol
@@loweredyote8416 what parts of it is false?
@@aaronvector4750 they don’t advertise that much lower than reality, atleast for NA cars. c8 is also rear/mid engined so power loss isn’t a legit factor. Pdk is better obviously but vette still has a dct too so it’s not far off. And paddles def don’t make it faster. It’s pretty commonly known that unless you’re going around a track, the trans knows when to shift better than you
@@skylined5534 responded to the wrong person. That’s the same argument I had
@@aaronvector4750
How do you 'know' Porsche have between 30 and 60 more crank horsepower? You don't and that's wild supposition on your part with nothing to back it up.
There's no way flipping the paddles would be quicker with that transmission, not a prayer.
As for the Porsche having far less power loss through the shorter transmission that's mostly pure fallacy.
It may be shorter but it's still got to throw the power 90 degrees from the engine which is the main reason for driven losses anyway, that and frictional losses through the gear sets especially where helical gears are concerned.
And you believe the claim by Porsche that it only has 385 horsepower? Impossible!
When Matt got a good sounding car he acts like a little kid with sweets in his hand 😂😂😂
Ok
That’s why even after living in the USA over 10 years I have not bought an American car! Germans & European cars are just better in every way.
Of course 👍
Except reliability
Can’t wait to see the z06 and zr1 and how they stack up! They’re gonna be beasts
Loved the drone's "weeee ooweee ooowweeepp" at the launch at 5:00 to 5:03 which sounded like it too was revving up alongside the cars for the drag-race.
American engineering: +110hp, -0.1sec 🤣🤣🤣
That's what happens when the C8 gets compared to its recent competitors. I also wrote that the C8 barely beats the 911 Carrera in the drag race in Speciale vs C8 video.
@Michael Charity You have this video to decide
I'm guessing that the Porsche has a higher rev limiter and stays in the power longer than the C8 because of gearing. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine the weight difference between the two affects the performance this much.
(also aero, but still.)
it prolly has more power than porche say anyway
@@okbro10 nah that's an Audi thing Audi always under estimates the cars power
Or maybe because everything American is inflated
Euro version
Convertible
Z51
It's literally the slowest C8 on the market.
Aerodynamics play a role. It's not just about the drag coefficient (which i suppose will be better with the more smooth porsche shape) but also the cross section area. The corvette is pretty wide and for sure has a bigger cross section as the 911. Still, all considered the 100 hp difference schould still have been visible in the races.
Also there's an often unexpected reason why cars of Audi, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes occasionally are dynoed with quite more power than they officially should have. -> When the dyno crews are not aware that the engine software already compensates for sea level and temperature, and so they let the dyno software compensate for that. -> double compensation when in actual fact the car only produced what it's supposed to. (Sure the compensation of the engine software has it's limits, so if you live in mexico city, they won't make the power it has on paper...)
Read about the issue years ago from a german car magazine which had the same issue at first.
We need a drag race, rolling race and brake test with that drone lol
The 911 performance is amazing but it is not a very attractive car. One of the things I love about my C8 is that it is so pleasing to look at.
You cannot discount the vette, best bang for buck and the base model kicks ass especially when u think about how much room it has to grow
Yes you can. Here in Europe the Corvette is no cheaper and resale for the 911 is better.
It may be a bargain in the US, but not in Europe.
Corvettes were always a cheap, powerful workhorse. It’s why they sell so well. It’s a more affordable performance car that can beat a lot of cars that cost significantly more. Although, I have a feeling that Porsche engineers focus on everything but the engine power, while the Corvette takes an old-fashioned approach with a bigger engine and more gears.
Mat you and Yianni are my favourite car reviewers and drag racers ever and I love you both so much!
They biggest issue with the 911 is the exhaust sound. Sounds like a Dyson vacuum. Otherwise, it excels in everything. If there is no sound, there is no soul.
Sngh, you are correct about the sound. Try visiting your local drag strip and see how these cars really run. The base Porsche (992) will still be on the track when the C8 is done.
@@ronretired282 going to the track in a few weeks with my brothers GT3 RS so definitely aware of what these cars are capable of 😊. Certain 911s are special 😉
Excellent drag race as usual 🔥🔥🔥🔥👍
the drone shots are 🔥🔥🔥
also, love the c8, then r8! more American cars please!!!!
Still not a fan of corvettes design , i thought it will grow after all this time but no. Front engine corvettes look soo good
The heroic proportions are just gone on it. Never been a fan of mid engined proportions. Always preferred the long hood short deck proportions of cars like the E type or 250 GTO or older corvettes and Vipers or the 2000GT. The C7 design grew on me after a while but I honestly don't think this one will especially with how much worse the rear end looks compared to the C7
Thats the most basic typr of c8..
There might be something off on the C8 corvette. The Z51 corvette has been recorded taking 2.8sec to 60mph and 11.2sec in the quarter mile.
Its funny because there aren't any videos of the C8 doing under 3 sec 0-60 using accurate timing equipment like Vbox or Dragy. The only time it is under 3 is when using the horribly inaccurate in-car timer. That is why a car like the 911 with 100 less hp can keep up.
@@EK-rr2md remember, the c8 is atmo so timing must include calculation for altitude. Also, this is a euro spec car which is less powerful due to exhaust requirements.
The Porsche is just as fast as the Corvette with an engine half the size and a quarter less power.
Sorry but this is once again the perfect example of German engineering. Perfection.
Also an example of the benefits of turbocharging.
The shot at 3:21 does remind me of older Top Gear
7:48 the face you make when you 'murican shitbox actually is worse than a high quality German car. Even with a couple less Horsepower
German horsepower is worth a lot more than American
What about the times American shitboxes beat German and European cars on the dragstrip and on the 'Ring? An old Saleen S7 would smoke every 911 except maybe the GT2 and GT3 or Turbo S off the line.
Love the Vette. Owned two previous gens. However the base 911 is fantastic!
Love these videos, brings out the immature child in me🤗
Fantastic channel 😁
Porsche always understates their numbers just to make them look better then what they actually are.
Porsche sells worldwide and their customer with difficult environment like high altitude (eg Swiss alps) or erxtreme heat (eg Dubai, or Saudi Arabia) also want that the cars have the power as promised, so there is a reserve between the specs and real performance in "normal" environment.
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This American is smart enough to know that you never underestimate German horsepower! I was rooting for the Porsche the whole time, but that R8 is super impressive! And I think it’s very cool that a company known for superior all-wheel-drive systems would revert to a rear wheel drive only platform. Give the people what they want…
Hey mat, i dont know if my comment a about a month ago asking for a base model supercar race went into the decision to do this race, but if it did, im very happy you did it! Great race
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What on earth are Porsche putting in their engines? It was a 100bhp down but still kep up with the Corvette. Let's all admit it, Porsche designs the best engines.
Powergate, they lie, its wheel power probably
@@semicolon101 If they lie like this, fine by me.
@Michael Charity reply with scientific evidence also, as mentioned, these modern boosted Porsches make way more power than the brochure suggests, hence the 100hp deficit is probably nothing in real terms, also boosted cars lose less/no power the higher the altitude, so whats the track’s altitude above sea level? Probably not a lot considering its in the Uk but still a few percentages.
All of these factors attributes to the race being as close as it was.
Drag only starts to make a noticeable difference at very high speed, also as you mentioned in the end of the rolling races this also starts to be a factor.
A Base 911 in manual must be bliss.
@@semicolon101 you say Porsche under estimates it’s Hp numbers, what if the c8 doesn’t make it’s claimed 480 Hp and actually makes less? Have you ever thought about that? 🤔
@@robocop3961 lol thats also a passibility, but 100hp less?? Would be cool to see dyno figures
I would love to see the 911 GTS vs them cars.
Yes. I would like to see the Z06 vs them cars
@@Raven77844 z06 is not that fast
@@JUFFAIR101 ok sure
Porsche will always beat the plastic cheap corvette trash 🗑
@@joshsan32 haters will always be haters. Considering you probably can't afford either. Most ppl are pissed that an American C8 beat a Porsche. Get use to it. When the Z06 comes out there will be more
The advertised power of the Corvette is at the crank not at the wheels, they have a similar power-to-weight ratio that's why the Porsche caught up.
even so the c8 has at the very least 450whp. the simple truth is america can't beat germany.
The power quoted by Porsche is also a crank figure. No manufacturers quote whp.
I’m not even mad at the Corvette. $70k MSRP for LT1 and can keep up with cars double it’s price.
Price is the only thing going for that junk.