[Deprogrammed] Helena: A Detransition Story
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2021
- Keri interviews Helena, 22-year-old woman who spent the majority of her teenage years embroiled in the social justice world view and identifying as transgender. At 18, she began using testosterone to medically transition but realized after 17 months that this decision was misguided, which resulted in her detransitioning. Now, she speaks out against the push to medicalize young people struggling with their body image and identity to raise awareness for the explosion of gender dysphoria in young women especially.
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Hosted by former SJW Keri Smith, "Deprogrammed" is dedicated to unravelling Keri's former ideology.
We'll explore the philosophy, strategy, and tactics that intersectional ideologues use to program "Social Justice Warriors," turning otherwise thoughtful, critically-minded individuals into armies of extreme leftist NPCs. Some episodes are interviews with special guests, and others are deep-dives into a different aspect of "social justice" culture, drawing both from Keri's personal experience as well as current events.
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So I know my beliefs and way of thinking drastically changed from the age of 15 to 18. And then from 18 to 25 even more drastically. Making these decisions at such a young age is very detrimental to the lives of these kids, its so sad. It's not just dressing up like the other sex, its taking hormones and getting surgery and things you can't take back. The therapist, counselors, and school personnel are really failing these kids. Breaks my heart.
And ANYONE alive who is truthful knows that’s the case for most people. Only imbeciles think letting young kids transition is “good.”
The human brain isn't even fully developed until around 25. No one truly knows who they are before that.
They are failing them but their own system punishes them for anything BUT unquestioning support for medical intervention. It’s bananas! It’s hard to expect people to want to risk their careers and livelihood over this issue. We need to demand it change from the public side.
@@mthoodstyle This is the issue. As a teacher I am terrified of losing my job and becoming unhirable, but I so want to help these misguided kids. I do have to prioritize my own situation though..
As soon to be 30, I'm a completely different person from who I was at 25. Physically, mentally, spiritually and politically. I cannot imagine what those people have to endure based on a decision they made when they were very young!
I love how Keri interviews. So approachable and non-judgmental.
I agree. She’d make a great therapist, too.
She listens to something painful without trying to minimize the pain.
@@nywvblue yes! I agree
What's to judge? She did one of the very best things she can do! I only hope she also repents to born again Christianity or no positives you ever do will matter...
@@nywvblue Well, she should stop believing in TERF ideology first before she becomes a therapist. I won't give even a cent to TERFs.
"I don't have a gender identity. I have a personality."
Exactly right
What is most distressing to me as a retired pediatrician is that Helena did not mention physicians or therapists as supportive and knowledgeable to assist with her detransition. I'm very disappointed in my former profession for its failure to help young people in distress before, during and after a decision to transition
Those she did mention did the opposite. They resisted and objected to her de-transition. Abusive therapists; they appear unqualified to offer therapy to anyone based on Helena's comments. It is as if they have a personal agenda to promote gender dysphoria and "transgender identity".
[Keith]
What happens when Critical Theory infects the fields of medicine and therapy.
The medical institution has been warped in the last 20 years and my trust in it has significantly dropped.
Never trust a politically correct therapist. Well... Never trust any politically correct person. Yeah... got it right now.
Helena is such a beautiful young lady. And very brave to speak the truth in a society which wants to squelch that message.
Both Helena & Keri have the kind of beauty that starts down deep inside of them and radiates to the surface. They also have wisdom beyond their years well earned through experience.
Well, I do believe that society needs to hear from people who have detransitioned.
I used to be on Tumblr too and observed that same phenomenon of people only being allowed to have opinions if they weren't straight and white. I came to the conclusion that many of these so called genders and sexualities are really just made so that people can voice their opinions. Asexuals and Demisexuals were the two I observed being used most often. These seemed to be mostly young women who didn't want to sleep around a bunch. But, despite their constant talk about the importance of consent, it's unacceptable to not have sex at all. Especially if you don't want to have sex for any moral reasons. So, asexuals and demisexuals arose. It's like all your decisions have to be made through a lens of gender, race, or sexuality.
It’s ridiculous. The USA is absolutely fucked.
Very interesting view, never thought about it like that, thanks!🤔
I sincerely doubt an asexual identity exists sans any mental health issues causing it. Sex, queer or straight, is a biological imperative. If someone claims to never wanting any form of intimacy then look for trauma.
@@juliahartley-barnes975 Almost sounds like the same reasoning used to chastise homosexuals.
@@juliahartley-barnes975 I am asexual. I don't have trauma, I just don't desire sex. I don't know why. And I don't really care. It give me no angst or distress.
But it's also not an "identity." It's just a thing about me. It describes me, it is _what_ I am, only by definition, but it's not _who_ I am. Identifying with words that describe you is stupid. Because you're going to change over time.
All the "genders" and "sexualities" that have been invented on Tumblr are just substitute words for "soul." When you make that substitution, you can see how religious it is.
Pausing at 12:00 to say that I experienced something very similar with my therapist and my sexuality. I went through a time of confusion after my husband passed away and thought I might be gay. That was totally supported and applauded (in a way that made me kind of uncomfortable, like I’d accomplished something but I hadn’t?), but when I started to realize that I definitely was not gay, my therapist (and others) were concerned and even claimed I had internalized homophobia. It was cool if I questioned being straight, it was NOT cool if I was questioning being gay. It took me a while to get away from a woman I was seeing because everyone kept trying to convince me that it was my grief/internalized homophobia/whatever. Totally straight btw. No brownie points or applause for it, but I’m definitely straight 😂
It’s sickening and akin to the applause that these parents are getting for castrating their children.
Hi Heather I hope you’re in the best place ever today :) I appreciated your comment very much.
Congratulations for seeing the truth. I knew a guy who's wife and daughter were killed in a car accident. His "support" system convinced him that he was homosexual and he "connected" with an overbearing queer that led him into a degenerate lifestyle. I have no idea if he ever got any help for his emotion problems, but those around him failed him in the worse way.
@@toomanyhobbies2011 uh… you can’t be “convinced” that you’re attracted to the same sex. Either you are or you’re not. My guess is that he was bi and was exploring that side of himself. You don’t choose who you’re attracted to lmfao
Exactly, as a sociologist I perfectly understand why we are supporting people who are thinking and questioning their sexuality, but, it's too personal and we can't say anything
When I was a therapist in a regional sexual abuse treatment program in 1991-1995 I worked with some individuals who had transitioned but lamented that their sexual abuse issues hadn't been addressed as they felt that they might have made the wrong choice to transition.
abuse does seem to be a common trend amongst detransitioners
@@pseudonamed Yes and I've seen a lot of Autistic girls making YT uploads about their teachers & school Counsellors pushing them into male hormone therapy. Very sad and concerning. ✌🏽
@@pseudonamed Well, I was abused when I was small - and I'm still a trans girl!
Same as Alcoholics Anonymous. It's a cult, a closed moral system that fixates on one aspect and one aspect only, and demands you internalize it as your "identity": "I am an alcoholic." They pretend it's an "illness" or "sickness" but they treat it with prayer, not medical treatment, and in no medical situation are you berated to "identify" with your illness.
And trans, like AA, insists that the treatment is 100% successful all the time. It never fails. If you relapse/detrans, then that's a moral failing on you. In no other medical situation is the failure of the treatment regarded as a moral failing by the patient. You never see oncologists insist that cancer treatment is 100% effective, but if you don't go into remission, that's because you didn't follow the program.
And AA never addresses the underlying causes that made people drink. They just fixate on the steps and obsessing about alcohol, making it the singular focal point of their entire lives. Which is amazingly unhealthy in its own right.
Ditto trans. They're both cults.
@@exdetransitioner Remains to be seen. Plenty of time left. Every Muslim insists they're a "true Muslim" and yet every ex-Muslim is told they were "never a true Muslim." Same with Christianity.
There's no such thing as being born "in the wrong body." You are not "in" your body. You _are_ your body. Everything about you comes from the physical characteristics of your biology. The only reason you are you is because of your body. The idea of a separate "identity" is as unhinged from reality and magically thinking as auras or astral projection. Those who claim otherwise are ignorant science and biology deniers, as bad as any Christian creationist.
"I don't identify as a woman, I just am." Amen.
"I don't identify as a trans woman, I just am." Bingo.
@@exdetransitioner I don't disagree with you at all. It's demonstrably true that some people are trans and that transitioning does truly help them deal with their gender dysphoria. You'll find no argument here. However, there does seem to be a growing group of people, especially young people, who are not trans and transitioning did not help them at all and that's very worrying in light of the irreversible effects of some steps in the process.
@@livinonacloud Detransitioning is still rare yet, but those people really need help.
@@exdetransitioner "I don't identify as a trans woman, I just am."
How so?
@@AlquimistEd Because I see myself as a one.
Im a Detransitioner (FTM) too.
I lived over 5 years as a "man". I got bottom surgery and everything.
Now I just wanted my healthy body back (what will never happen). Thank you fpr sharing your story!
I had a question? Do you still get read as as a man? How long did it take for people to see you as a woman? Do you have to shave your face? And is your voice deep?
,5 years is a lot!
@@Womanfemale12 Hi, feel free to ask. No, I get read as a woman. There are typical woman signs like wide hips that stay and people can easily read the biological gender (even if someone takes crosssx hormons).
Yes, i have to shave my face (but i do IPL laser). Yes my voice is deep and it would need a voice feminisation surgery to get it high. :)
@@Womanfemale12 Dont be afraid. Biology is strong. Im sure you will look like a woman again. Maybe it helps you too look at Transmasculine Persona exactly. When yo u look at the face they often look like woman with beard. Especially the bodytype is often feminine. How long did you stop using Testosteron?
This girl is gorgeous. Not just because of how she looks, but because she is strong and smart and capable and she's been through so much. What a jewel. What an incredible person.
I teach 8th grade, SO TRUE!! There are so many young girls caught up in this, very sad. We're not 'allowed' as teachers to 'out' them to their parents... They want to be called by other names, etc. Thank you!! There is hope for these confused girls.
Self examination helps everyone. Constantly examine your beliefs and motives, because they drive your life. It's the best way to ensure you know which way you're going and why.
Oh no! That would mean accountability and responsibility! We're not to do that any longer; that doesn't align with identity politics narratives 😒
It seems like with each new generation the understanding that children are supposed to be protected, that childhood should be kept innocent, that there's something sacred about women because they become mothers, they're where life begins, that all of these healthy attitudes have been under attack for decades and the culture has been damaged because of this.
There's a doctor at Boston Children's Hospital who helps children as young as 8 or 9 begin the transitioning process. Encouraging this sort of self destructive behavior in children is child abuse. I'm so sad for young people these days.
Amen.
It’s all about the money that lines their pockets
Agree about gender theory, you don't need to have a gender category to define how you identify as an individual. It's only when your ideology needs categorisations and group identities that they must label you
I saw a video Helena made as she started detransitioning, and I was feeling sorry for her, thinking she couldn't look female again. But looking at her now you can't tell that she ever transitioned. Even her voice is back to the female range .
She is really lucky. Some never get their voice back.
Thank goodness!
@@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405 It's called voice training.
@@exdetransitioner No, testosterone can have long lasting effects on making your voice deeper, especially if you do it before properly going through puberty. Voice training can only do so much.
@@AlquimistEd MtFs like me can sound really feminine after voice training, so it is possible that she had been doing voice training just like me.
I have been listening to a book by Carl Trueman called "The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution". It really provides a historical backdrop to much of what has evolved and I think rightly identifies the central issue of who we are.
She nails what I've been thinking for a while--what we're calling "trams"* is probably about 4 or 5 separate issues, being unhelpfully lumped together and treated the same, to the detriment of many. As someone with the (I believe) rare neurological disconnect (that actually has little to do with "gender", in the social sense), I appreciate her thoughtfulness in approaching all these aspects of the issue. I can't imagine what it must've been like to be young in those spaces, which I was mostly shunned from/was too old for, and how much strength it took to find herself among all the pain and noise there. (*Censored the t word because when I use it my comments get deleted)
Your identity is your name. An individual is a multi faceted and gender is one facet and a person who bases there entire “identity” on a single facet are going to have problems.
Such a brave young woman and so self-possessed. I can't believe we are letting this happen to children. I feel so powerless to stop this madness from being pushed on young girls by schools and the media etc.
" A person was walking along the beach and pushing stranded jellyfish back into the water. Someone came along and said, "What's the point? There's thousands stranded ... what difference are you making?" The first person kept walking and after pushing another jelly into the water, said, " _It made a difference to that one, didn't it?_ " -- *You have all the power you desire. Stop the madness one piece at a time* . %-) Cheers.
@@friedmandesigns Absurd and treacly sentimental nonsense fit for adullt-children. The Left will not be stopped until they are removed from power via force. Wake up.
_Surround yourself with people that _*_learn_*_ from their experiences in life [smart]._
Helena is one of those people you want to surround yourself with. Probably one of the wisest people in her age group+. Great interview
She hits the nail on the head when she talks about how gender identity is not really a useful way to talk about the human experience around 13:00 . There are many reasons why someone might not be comfortable in their body, or in society's expected gendered roles, etc. There should not be just one narrative that we have to shoehorn everybody into.
This is a huge problem that has been ignored and pretend that does not exist for decades.
Loved this interview. Helena is so wise. Also, was surprised to hear that Keri is in her early forties. She looks like she's in her twenties!
People mag is featuring the son of Gabrielle Union and Dwayne Wade, who is 13 and transitioning. They love him and have the best intentions in being supportive of his decision, but it makes me so sad. Not just bc I believe they’ll regret it, but bc so many in that situation are going to read that story and handle it the same way. I know he’s far from the first, but still...
Cursed media.
You mean their son who suffers from the delusion of believing that he is a girl.
@@philiphales2109 yes! Thanks for the correction - I’ve fixed it.
It is sad I'm sure he would have just grown up to be a lovely gay man... if you would have been born 15 years ago
I appreciate Helena sharing an honest report on her painful experience. I hope that she finds happiness and joy as she continues on the adventure of life.
I really appreciate Helena's thorough and articulate explanations on how she "fell into" the idea she was trans, and then the intelligent dialogue on why she de transitioned. I blame the "propaganda" of our higher education system and a run away media that wants to justify any and everything that will bring ratings. I congratulate Helena for her courage to be herself and to be public about her journey.
She seems very smart. Im very happy she is both mentally an physically healthy today.
That was a really excellent interview, very interesting and informative. And, yes, Helena is wise way beyond her years. I'm really glad no permanent physical damage was done to her, and I'm sure she has the strength and wisdom to deal with the mental damage done eventually (even if it takes a long time). There is truth in the adage that 'what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger'. I wish her well on her journey.
My niece just came out as non binary and I wonder how much of it is about being allowed to speak her mind. My sister is very woke and will not allow anyone else to express a different opinion because she just can't mentally handle a debate and so "respectfully" asks you to stop expressing your opinion.
Jesus. That’s so messed up.
poor kid
Non-binary - obviously - isn't a real thing (there's no such thing), but it functions as "trans lite" and an on-ramp to the trans ideology and medicalization. Unplug her from the internet.
Get her involved in the outside world. It will go away.
Not only does "non-binary" literally make no sense, it's ironic, because it creates a binary of "non-binary" and not-"non-binary".
This is a very important interview and has the potential to help young women who may be caught up in the current gender ideology and interpret themselves inaccurately due to bad messaging and social contagion. Thank you for sharing!
Social contagion is bullshit anyway.
This was a great interview. 💜
A recommendation for everybody unaware: her conversations with Benjamin Boyce are also really, really good. They have done three or four by this point, I think. Look them up, if you haven't watched them yet.
I normally do not post or comment publicly. But this interview was very enlightening. Lots of great insight and thought provoking information.
Thank you for this💗 So much❤️
It is weird how quickly it seems even medical professionals have just accepted one single narrative and aren't being more cautious
It could be about the pharmaceuticals business? And taking people's money for surgeries etc 🤔 💵 💵
As the saying goes, follow the money plus you have the lbgq whatever activists who are big donors to the Democrat party, they're the primary reason all this started.
Because ROGD is a pseudoscientific ideology which was debunked multiple times.
I really wanted to be a boy when I was younger. I dressed, played, had boy toys and played with and fought boys. As I got my hormones in Jr.High and my mom got me in class for manners and make up. I really liked doing boy things and my dad was shocked to see me when I actually curled and fixed my hair. I am so thankful and blessed to become a wife a mother, grandmother and great grandmother a very happy
WOMAN ♀️
My granddaughter is 12 years old. She is in a class with 6 girls. 3 out of those girls have said that they are demi-sexual. My granddaughter invited one of these girls for a sleepover. The girl said she didn't think that was a good idea because she is demi-sexual and my granddaughter isn't. I think this is a trend that young girls have gravitated towards as a way of feeling better about themselves, or special in some way. I hope some day we have laws that prohibit children from transitioning. I don't care what adults do to themselves, how they live their lives , or how they identify. They are adults and are free to do what they want. Children are easily influenced and some parents seem to enjoy having a child who is so unique. I have seen too many stories of people detransitioning. It is heartbreaking. I don't want to see any more. The only way for that to happen is for them not to transition in the first place. I am grateful for people like you 💛
This is indeed troubling to see. I'm faced with a similar situation in my family. Let's stay strong against this social craze.
I removed my son from school when he kept coming home with weird homework. It was psychological and not universally needed knowledge. He continued with home schooling through graduation.
My son now has sincere interest in social behavior when he discovered school was making attempts at manipulation.
Thanks Keri and it is painful for me to listen this young lady and her struggle. God bless her and you
I’m so proud of this young lady being able to see through the programming! I pray that more and more people wake up
*You said you would provide this woman's twitter information, but it's not here, and some of us would very much like to follow her.*
The show description said "Follow her online at..." and then listed her Twitter handle. But I realize that may have been unclear, so I updated the language. It now says "Follower her on Twitter at..." -C
@@UnsafeSpace *When I looked t the description it was empty. I wonder if YT censored it?*
Every time I feel depressed and black pilled about the next generation I see people like Helena that give me hope.
Be careful of this generation most are pro abortion anti guns and anti white males.
This is why I'm super observant of what my niece learns in school. I can't allow her to have her mind warped by these twisted people in academia.
Thanks for such good work!
Such an insightful interview. Thank you.
Yeah... I'm like: no one is going to have any problem perceiveing me.
Also, if free speech is for everyone, I can perceive you in any way I please. You are ALREADY going to perceive me in any way you please. You clearly already perceive yourself in the way you please.
Great conversation! Thank you for sharing Helena. You're quite dashing.
I love your thumbnail picture!
@@philiphales2109 Hey thanks Philip! I'm a NAZARENE like Jesus!
@@danielharp5883 -Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam ☦️
Amazing honest discussion and interview. Thank you.
Brilliant conversation ladies.💛
Thank you both.
6:48 I have autism, they are doing this with autism. Its now becoming more common to identify AS autistic, and considered an insult to say a person with autism. The argument being, that saying that your a person with autism is likening it to saying your a person with a disease, that autism is something that is negative and secondary to your person and its a denial of your personhood.
Its semantic garbage and people I know are falling for it. Which is ironic, I wouldn't have thought the hyper detail focused autistic crowd to question the meaning of the words more.
Look up “Tolerance Lost” by Dr Andrew Moulden on Amandha Vollmer’s RUclips channel. Clear link demonstrated between vaccination and autism.
@@adamcampbellart okay, right off the bat. He thinks that vaccines cause most of the weird increase in modern diseases, but he completely ignores, or doesn't think about the increase in toxins like DDT, radiation, and pesticides like glyphosphate, as causes for those same diseases.
At this point im waiting to hear the specific mechanized cause for autism from something within vaccines.
@@adamcampbellart and he just said its acidotal evidence. So at best its a correlation. Which is a problem. That doesn't mean hes wrong (all the time), but I don't think he has a strong understanding of whats going on.
I will say, I think some vaccines should just be avoided altogether, like the flu shot, but there are plenty which people should probably get.
The only thing I wish, is that people recognize these things aren't perfectly safe, its injecting some small amount of toxin and pathogen to get a response from your immune system, that automatically causes inflammation and stress, and that sometimes has adverse effects and those are sometimes serious.
How often this happens is really the question.
@@adamcampbellart also, I don't know why you bring this up to me, just because I have autism.
I didn't mention anything related to vaccines
@@adamcampbellart hes saying blood clots by white blood cell stimulation from the vaccines is causing these problems, but doesn't really describe HOW it works.
Like, why wouldn't these problems occur during ANY infection? Why is the clotting only a problem with vaccines?
The possession at 15 was a really interesting insight. You can never get time back that is lost and that is what is saddest about this whole movement.
Thank you both so much
Took her 17 months to realize she's getting scammed. Better 17 than 71.
Possession is an accurate description for allot of struggle.
spirit attachment
Twitter is now tumbler.
Twimbler
This was a big money maker, I noticed decades ago how many people had their hands out. I feel everyone shouldn't make snap decisions in their teens. Your teens you are living at home, and haven't experienced real life.
This is an interesting interview. My hope is that more people like Helena have more access to people like them. They exist and need support. It’s fascinating for me to discover the perspectives of people who decide to publicly “de transition” as a trans person. What I find most commonly is that people who decide to transition after adolescence are far less likely to make that choice.
"I danced with the darkness and learned its moves. Now I stand in the light and can no longer be seduced"
Really good episode. I think you and Mary Eberstat would have a great conversation that would maybe give some insight into how we got here with the trans and sjw movements.
It is a bad sign when others tell you, or rather attempt to convince you, what you are. No matter what ideology is behind it. I mean, it is taking advantage of the vulnerable for your own gains.
I understand this is a single random comment among many; however, there is a member on Rumble named TT Exulansic. Even though her YT channel was recently shut down for non-conformity, she is a trained linguist who has gone through this same experience. She is extremely smart, has sharp wit and is someone who's videos are worth the time spent checking out. - All the best
Such an interesting interview
Great interview.
God bless you, Helena! How brave and beautiful and perfect you are in understanding that you don't need to "identify" as something other than what you are. "They" call it "pride" yet they are asking people to act, to pretend being something they clearly are not, while hiding in shame of who they truly area. The real pride is in being who you truly are, body, mind and soul. Thank you for such a brave and genuine story!!
Great discusion and super interesting guest.
very interesting convo. and refreshing. your both so smart and beautiful. helena, your light shines so bright on the other side of your experience.
13:22 this is a very good explanation gender identity as a concept and how it’s less than useful. Sex doesn’t change but personalities vary.
a very honest and intelligent conversation. bravo...
Jesus comes this winter on a sabbath...
Matthew 24:20"But pray ye that your flight be not in the WINTER, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation"
This is the high watch season is Winter beginning Wednesday, December 21 2022 and ends Monday, Mar 20 2023
3 days after the vernal equinox sets the sabbath for the year. This years sabbath is Tuesday 6pm to Wednesday 6pm Jerusalem time...
3.5 days of darkness proceeds this event...
Revelation 11:11 "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them"
the sun will go down at NOON...
Amos 8:9“And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at NOON, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:”
since Tuesday is the sabbath minus 3.5 days of darkness is Saturday at 3am PST (12noon Jerusalem time)... Dec 24th Saturday 3am 2022 is highwatch as is every saturday that follows....
Jesus resurrects his people/army after the second day but within the 3.5 day window
Hosea 6:2“After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.”
when the sun goes black at NOON on SATURDAY, to do list
1. half hour before sun goes down i turn on my olive oil and oil lamp (have oil for 3.5 days of darkness)
Matthew 25:4 “But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.”
Leviticus 24:2
“Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.”
Exodus 10:23
“They saw not one another, neither rose any from his place for three days: but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings.”
2. RIP/TEAR/CUT your clothes off into 12 pieces
Joshua 7:6
“And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.”
Genesis 37:34
“And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days.”
1 Kings 11:30
“And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces:”
3. Shave your beard and head hair off and eye brows
Jeremiah 48:37 “For every head shall be bald, and every beard clipped: upon all the hands shall be cuttings, and upon the loins sackcloth.”
Leviticus 14:9 “But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.”
4. Cut your nails
Deuteronomy 21:12 “Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;”
5. Wash your linen clothes and TAKE A BATH
Genesis 35:2 “Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments:”
Leviticus 14:9 “But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.”
6. Staff in hand
Exodus 12:11 “And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover.”
Genesis 32:10 “I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which thou hast shewed unto thy servant; for with my staff I passed over this Jordan; and now I am become two bands.”
7. Cut/scratch/bloody up arms for 3.5 days
Jeremiah 41:5 “That there came certain from Shechem, from Shiloh, and from Samaria, even fourscore men, having their beards shaven, and their clothes rent, and having cut themselves, with offerings and incense in their hand, to bring them to the house of the LORD.”
Jeremiah 47:5 “Baldness is come upon Gaza; Ashkelon is cut off with the remnant of their valley: how long wilt thou cut thyself?”
Jeremiah 48:37 “For every head shall be bald, and every beard clipped: upon all the hands shall be cuttings, and upon the loins sackcloth.”
8. Put on WHITE PURE LINEN GARMENTS: pants, top and veil/headcover (no shoes)
Revelation 19:8
“And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.”
Matt 22:1-14 Leviticus 16:4 Gen 37:34 & Exo 34:33-34
9. Lay down PROSTRATE(facedown flat on belly) with DIRT and ASHES on head on a bed on ASHES
Jeremiah 6:26 “O daughter of my people, gird thee with sackcloth, and wallow thyself in ashes: make thee mourning, as for an only son, most bitter lamentation: for the spoiler shall suddenly come upon us.”
Revelation 18:19
“And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.”
10. pray the lord's prayer, sing psalms and weeping in mourning for your sins for 3.5 days
Revelation 8:4 “And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.”
11. NO FOOD OR WATER FOR 3.5 DAYS
Jonah 3:7 “And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:”
12. NO SLEEP FOR 3.5 DAYS
Mark 13:36 “Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.”
13. Have someting prepared for Jesus to eat when he shows up at your door...
Stay indoors close your door and wait for a knock from Jesus on your door
Revelation 3:20 “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
Helena isn't wearing a hat? How could you allow that carrie as a hat supremacist.
Thank you, Keri, for this wonderful (eye-opening) interview! I feel like I am watching the world spiral into an abyss of depravity and its dragging our children down into the depths of despair. God bless you and I appreciate this young lady being so upfront about her experience.
Keri this is one of your best interviews, and I would welcome a longer discussion with Helena where she delves more into her thoughts about Wokeism.
One thought I had, which I will bring up at the next live chat, is the view that women are more affected than men by trans issues. Perhaps true on the surface. But I would suggest that there is an intersection between Incels and Trans. They both arise in puberty, from social / sexual rejection, congregate in like-minded online communities which radicalizes them to the point of causing harm either to themselves or others.
In other words, putting aside how Wokies have weaponized yet another issue, these are children that are suffering, that are alienated, and who need our help and guidance into adulthood.
Thank you for this fantastic interview. I really appreciate the bravery that is required to say anything even rational around detransition around what is an incredibly vorocious pro-trans voice
Helena is so smart for a girl her age. I follow her on Twitter and love her takes.
I watched a lot of videos about Helena, and I don't remember if this is the video where she told the story about her and her friend up and leaving to drive to Chicago, but today I heard "Fast Car" by Tracey Chapman, and it reminded me of how she *may* have felt. Obviously, she may look back at that time in her life and realize now it wasn't authentic, but in that moment, while it was happening, it seems like it was a I gotta GTFOH moment. Those moments are so satisfying to me. It's freedom.
I recently had a female lesbian friend who was 6 months into transitioning to become male and one night woke up screaming about a nightmare where she was being forced into having top surgery (which was scheduled for 3 months in the future). She was hysterical over the past 18 months of obsessing over the need to transition when in reality it was the last thing on earth she actually wanted.
Long story short, she felt shame over being a very femme lesbian and thought transitioning would help. Today she’s so happy she caught on to her own self delusion and is once again a happy lesbian in a relationship.
This is a very real problem.
She's a lucky woman. The stigma around femme lesbian is real. Hope she stays on right path for her.
It’s tricky bc my story follows the older school model ie. exhausted all options before resorting to transition (as an older adult). Yet, I tend to not want to take away options of those who are younger either. Basically a walking contradiction. For me personally I had the years of trying to sort things out, to really question what is going on, what is ‘caused’ vs what is actually tied to my gender identity. Also, I took a different route, when it comes to name. I felt I didn’t need to change my given name (though , second/ middle name, yes change that). It’s only by coincidence that my given name happens to actually be a huge piece of my identity irrespective of gender which possibly I wouldn’t have known at a younger age. It’s so hard to say. I’m inclined to say it’s better to -wait-, but perhaps with better therapy this can still be achieved vs spending decades to decide /figure it all out.
Good podcast and cool guest.
Wow I did not even hear that Carrie brought up cutting when I made my post..
This is a point of confusion for me. I think there are probably some people who are biologically trans (brain development didn't match sex development) and others who "go trans" as a reaction to toxic gender roles, sexism, sexual trauma, etc., and it seems that there needs to be much more counseling and exploration to be sure of which is going on before someone goes and changes their.body, but I don't understand what the issue with social justice is. Don't all people of conscience want social justice?
Some don't have much in the way of conscience, and some are far right programmed from Fox/media and hateful religions.
Just got off work and im happy i have this to listen to on the drive home... I hope it has a happy ending. HAIL Kari!!
I'm a straight white (yet mexican) male, and this was something so interesting to listen to.
Great video
I’m really concerned. A few days ago, my 29 yr old daughter who has been lesbian since she was 16...is now saying she is transgender & wants to start testosterone later this year. I have no idea where this came from & how to help her just in case this is a big mistake.
Hope you can help her find a therapist without the personal agenda Helena's appear to have (based on her comments).
This topic is covered occasionally on Unsafe Space, hope you can learn about it enough to help you daughter here and elsewhere.
Keri refers to the present day high rate of trans-claiming people as trenders, following a popular trend rather than being the quite rare transgender person from decades ago. Those rare cases generally are not encouraging it on others, and don't wish the problem on anyone.
Sexual preference says nothing about gender dysphoria or "gender identification". In case that is related, being a lesbian should not inform your daughter anything about being in the "wrong body" or having a different "gender identity" from biological sex. Unrelated.
I hope your daughter is able to come to terms with her biological sex and seeks help from someone without a preconceived agenda.
[Keith]
Your child is an adult.
Friends can help each other. Parents can be a good friend
@@micromints1735 All ages are falling for this ridiculous ideology. I think most sane people would worry for their family members if they were making such a monumental mistake...
@@EmpressRetard cope
What is the study? I'd be interested to read it.
If Keri is 40, then she looks really well (stunningly well). If she is not, then I misunderstood the age. The rest still applies.
I'm so confused by the end 🤣
When it comes to the pill analogy in the sense that doctors could discover a way to remove the dysphoria of persons suffering with gender identity issues this does lead me to believe that this is the reason behind and overall acceptance and also an identification of oneself with mental illness of all kinds. Instead of people having an ailment or mental illness or medical condition they are now instead of becoming that medical condition. I think it’s a twisting on the idea of “owning it“.
You experienced it, didn’t like it, now you’re moving on. That’s what life is about, experiencing different things!
So, girls who cut off their breasts, become infertile, have their voices change, experience vaginal atrophy, boys who cut off their testicles, become sterile.... they're just "experiencing different things!" huh?
Yeah. This narrative you're pushing is obvious bullshit.
From what I here it used to be men or young boys who were transitioning a few years back. Young women transitioning is a relatively new thing and it is interesting to note that the young boys had feelings of disphoria from a very young age whereas these young ladies get these feelings just as they are on the verge of puberty.
For the most part it seems that with the girls they are mistaking general feeling of discomfort with their bodies with disphoria as their bodies are changing during puberty.
I think there always was girls who were persistent about gender dysphoria into adulthood but it was 90% boys. And now it's basically flipped and usually girls with no signs when they were young.
They do that because this liberal/ leftist society suggest to them that this is the case and women are generally more agreeable and in need of social acceptance than men and this gives it to them.
There were always young trans guys transitioning, it's just that culture changes, becomes more accepting of trans people and more and more are coming out than ever.
Everyone is too concerned about "their truth" to let "the" truth be heard.. Unfortunately many won't listen to "Helena's truth" because they'd rather pretend it's fiction since it doesn't fit neatly into their narrative.
Love the work you do, I'm worried for teenagers getting hormone blockers too young. They should be adults ❤❤❤
You hit the nail on the head when you talk about becoming a woman. It's a VERY difficult and confusing process. Throw transgender into the mix and it's just harder.
As an older person I am so horrified and, frankly, disgusted at the role social media is playing in this nonsense idealology. Social media is the great evil of our time, but it's here to stay, and therefore we need accountability from the hugely rich social media companies... I say hugely rich because that's what it is all about, money, not 'social'..
I wish we as a society could make people feel like they belong.... everyone is so lonely nowadays, no wonder cults like these can find roots.
Talk about, so strong, so brave! 💪
Young ladies who happen to be especially tall often feel awkward. I suppose we could allow them to see this awkwardness as the desire to identify as being shorter. Then, we could demand that everyone else also regard them as shorter. Or we could alter the meaning of the word "tall" and demand changes in dictionaries. So I ask, which is more objective, to possess the chromosomes and sex organs of a woman or to be a particular height? Clearly, they are equally objective.
Thank you
You are allowed to be a powerful, happy, vocal white women.
Excellent!!