George, I have been running the HED Jet 5 Black wheels coming up on 4 years now. I absolutely love that wheelset. Still true as when they came out of the box, bearings are great shape, and that CNC machined grooves on the brake track makes for what I think are the best rim brake wheels out there! Good luck this weekend, your bike looks fantastic! Oh I also run the Bolt V1, it is a great computer!
Thank You Tower! I know some folks have had questions about the durability of the turbine braking technology, but I have put them at ease telling them I’ve had these wheels for years in many different depths and break truck has lasted without any discoloration. Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing.
@@skylarrubalcaba525 I use "Kool Stop Black", they seem to be pretty long lasting for me, but I am in North Texas and we don't have a lot of big climbs along with the descents at the endurance road bike events I do. . That being said, better to go through brake pads, that will save you wear and tear on the rims. Although SwissStop are a bit on the pricey side. The Kool Stop (black) are pretty economical, they are my go to pads. Hope this helps, take care!
No issues whatsoever after thousands of miles. Keep in mind I'm in San Diego and I don't ride in the rain ... usually. Event day is event day though... Unfortunately it rained for half of the 200km on that Saturday, the last 60 miles.
@@ImGlossy63 it starts in La Jolla goes inland to Rainbow/Fallbrook and back to La Jolla. I’m guessing 7.5 -8 hours total time. It’s not a race so no reason to kill yourself. We’ll probably get wet the last 2 hours of the event
Did you see Peak Torque's recent video on aero testing of rim vs disc brakes? Surprisingly, despite the retro grouch and other skeptic's claims, disc brakes were slightly more aero. Cheers.
Yes I saw that video. I’m not convinced even though I like Peak Torque’s content. Besides it really doesn’t matter what his testing results were I hate disc brakes - I hate the weight addition, the complexity, the added expense, the distraction of a bike’s ride quality and the list goes on and on … 😂
Just a couple of items - The frame and fork $5k, the wheels $2K, the Handlebars $800, the brakes $799, ... and there is A LOT more you need to build it. lol (drivetrain, pedals, saddle etc...)
Looks so similar to mine! I would get those wheels too except I'd prefer some very noticeable logos on them (haha). Out of interest what brand is your bar tape? I have Bianchi's own on the Oltre, but now it's out of stock everywhere in the uk and other makes I've tried are not such a good match and I have three Bianchis to keep the tape looking good on! Good luck on your events this year!
Ha ha one of the things I ❤️ about these wheels are the stealth logos! You need the wheels to take second place to the star of the show, the frame. The bar tape is a house brand from one of my distributors. It’s the most inexpensive Celeste bar tape because I re-wrap my bars frequently - at least monthly. Thanks for watching even if your wheels probably look obnoxious on your beautiful Bianchi bike 😝
@@gilletteguy787 I didn’t answer it on purpose because the answer wouldn’t help him I prefer to help people rather than have them say “well that sucks I can’t get that in the UK 🇬🇧 either”
I find these really nice! They feel fast to me. As inventory gets better I want to run some 5000 S TR’s My faves are the Vittoria Corsa but you have to keep them fresh. They are not as puncture resistant as other tires but man the ride quality is freaking amazing!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad love my Corsa Control tyres too! They are a little ‘delicate’ but I inspect them for debris after every ride, to pick out foreign objects, and fill any voids with polyurethane sealant ( as with ALL my tyres)….
Fingers crossed someday HED tools up to produce a 584mm road rim with their Turbine brake track. Great looking bike and the Celeste bar tape is perfect. Good luck at your events.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I prefer race geometry on 44cm frame. Anything less than a 74° headtube angle just seems slow. When you start dipping below 50cm "sized" race frames with 700c wheels toe overlap can be an issue as it was on my 48cm Vitus 979 Dural frame/fork I rode in the early 90's, which was also a little large for me.
Another great video, thanks. I see you're still a SQLab 612 fan, I was too but after 2+1/2 hours are so it started to really dig into my left hip. I ended up with a BiSaddle, which is a fully adjustable saddle and for me it has been the answer. If you have customers who are having a hard time finding the right saddle fit you might want to look into it. Best wishes for a great new year.
Thank You Ken! Yes, I have been rocking the SQ lab 612 saddle for several years now. This is the third iteration. I don’t know how they can make it any better, but if they do, I’d be interested to try their fourth a duration of the saddle. Thanks for the tip on the saddle you mentioned I’ve never heard of it, but that’s not saying much. 😂
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad i recall the first time i heard that horrible sound on someone's bike.I had the Shimano ceramics setup,so I had great stopping power and didt have to hear that howl.Now I am shopping around and it's either a Cannondale or the Giant,with the bike budget around $2000.
@@michaels8607 it happened all around me today on my 200 km Brevet (125 mi) 7500 feet. All these guys with their disc brake bikes squealing like mad. It hadn’t even started raining yet. It poured down rain during my last 50 miles and one of the riders with me her rotors started rubbing it wasn’t a tink tink tink - it was a rasping like the whole rotor was running. So yeah all this nonsense about disc brakes better in the rain and yet Lori and I were the first two riders to finish and we were on rim brakes. So where were all the disc brake riders? On all the slick roads and twisty descents - yeah nowhere in sight. Keep in mind all this nonsense about disc brakes being better in the rain 1. That’s compared to what? Oh yeah carbon rim brake wheels are an absolute shit show in the wet! 2. It all comes down to tire traction not braking system. These disc brake advocates were sold a bill of goods. Disc for dirt - rim for road.
Hi, @George Vargas. May I ask you what specific brand and model of rim brake pads should I use for my Hed Jet Plus black wheels with turbine brake track finish? I would like to maximize the durability of the wheels. Thank you! I'm a subscriber of your channel, BTW.
Thanks for watching 😊 there are tons more videos on my channel about HED Wheels. Why not ask a question instead of being snarky? What do you want to know? I often make videos answering questions my viewers have posed. This video was a first ride impression I’ve ridden them now a 125 mile 187 mile and a 200 mile races since posting this video. Along with plenty of shorter training rides.
George, enough already about your disdain for disc brakes! Holy crap, your doing a great job alienating riders (viewer’s) who love, enjoy and benefit from them. In this video you spared us all of the reason you hate them. Which you’ve made us aware of numerous times in the past. (Yes, we know, you’re super fast descender so who needs brakes, their too expense, too heavy, to much of a pain to maintain, blah, blah, blah!). But for me, I love speed also, especially the descents, but I love the spot on, dependability and ease in which I can apply and moderate the hydro power. Aside from with, I love tech. Disc brakes and Di2 are truly two advances that take the performance of the bike and myself to the next level. Aside from loving the performance aspects, it makes riding with Dupuytren’s and Raynaud’s syndrome so much less of an issue. (But George, you’re still young. Wait another ten years! :). In addition, unlike your beautiful 75 degree January days that you and Jesse are having to endure, up in the great Northwest the average temp between December, January and February is 42, and typically rains 60% of the week. Just two weeks ago we had 20 +/- degree days to a week or so. The only thing that cut my ride short was the damn ice. So, for me, in addition to the super performance, having discs, and Di2, is the difference between going out and getting in the miles versus staying home during the cold, wet and gray winters (and spring) of the NW. As for maintenance, granted, a bit more time. But any true rider should enjoy maintaining their ride and as much as riding their bike(s). Sure, if a person can’t properly change standard rim pads, align correctly align,(toe) and cables, then they’re not going to be great at maintaining a disc set-up. However, anyone that can properly maintain a rim brake bike, can do a disc bike, yes, including oil flush without any problem. And for those who don’t like maintaining their bikes, then that’s what shops like yours are for. God knows, it’s a hell of a lot easier than faffing with tubeless tires! One last note, I see that you replied to a follower above expressing your intention to try some 5000 S TR! Hmmm . . . I thought you were totally fed up and “done” with the bullshit of tubeless (for the road). No?
George, I have been running the HED Jet 5 Black wheels coming up on 4 years now. I absolutely love that wheelset. Still true as when they came out of the box, bearings are great shape, and that CNC machined grooves on the brake track makes for what I think are the best rim brake wheels out there! Good luck this weekend, your bike looks fantastic! Oh I also run the Bolt V1, it is a great computer!
Thank You Tower! I know some folks have had questions about the durability of the turbine braking technology, but I have put them at ease telling them I’ve had these wheels for years in many different depths and break truck has lasted without any discoloration.
Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing.
Curious what brake pads you use? I recently got this wheel set but have run through 2 sets of brake pads already. Last set were swisstop pads
@@skylarrubalcaba525 just regular Shimano brake pads. We have a ton of climbing and descending and I haven’t had to replace my brake pads.
@@skylarrubalcaba525 I use "Kool Stop Black", they seem to be pretty long lasting for me, but I am in North Texas and we don't have a lot of big climbs along with the descents at the endurance road bike events I do.
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That being said, better to go through brake pads, that will save you wear and tear on the rims. Although SwissStop are a bit on the pricey side. The Kool Stop (black) are pretty economical, they are my go to pads. Hope this helps, take care!
Very nice bike and those wheels make it pop. Good luck on your upcoming event.
Thank You Robert!
That's a very very good looking bike!.... Best of luck on that event!!.
Thank You Memo! You haven’t seen the race whip out on the road yet 😉
any issues with the black anodized black coating color rubbing off? i have heard other brands do this..
No issues whatsoever after thousands of miles. Keep in mind I'm in San Diego and I don't ride in the rain ... usually. Event day is event day though...
Unfortunately it rained for half of the 200km on that Saturday, the last 60 miles.
Bike/wheels looks great George!! Hope for a nice ride tomorrow and hope you stay dry. 👌🚴
Thank You Chris looks like the rain is coming in earlier. Last night it was showing for 4pm now it’s moving in by 1 pm 😡
Oh nooo… where will your ride take place? Be safe out there.
@@ImGlossy63 it starts in La Jolla goes inland to Rainbow/Fallbrook and back to La Jolla. I’m guessing 7.5 -8 hours total time. It’s not a race so no reason to kill yourself. We’ll probably get wet the last 2 hours of the event
Did you see Peak Torque's recent video on aero testing of rim vs disc brakes? Surprisingly, despite the retro grouch and other skeptic's claims, disc brakes were slightly more aero. Cheers.
Yes I saw that video. I’m not convinced even though I like Peak Torque’s content. Besides it really doesn’t matter what his testing results were I hate disc brakes - I hate the weight addition, the complexity, the added expense, the distraction of a bike’s ride quality and the list goes on and on … 😂
That’s a nice bike. Not even gonna ask what that would set someone back. Lol.
Good luck on the upcoming events.
Just a couple of items - The frame and fork $5k, the wheels $2K, the Handlebars $800, the brakes $799, ... and there is A LOT more you need to build it. lol (drivetrain, pedals, saddle etc...)
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad lol. I need to find out how much a kidney is going for these days 😂
a healthy kidney lol
Looks so similar to mine! I would get those wheels too except I'd prefer some very noticeable logos on them (haha). Out of interest what brand is your bar tape? I have Bianchi's own on the Oltre, but now it's out of stock everywhere in the uk and other makes I've tried are not such a good match and I have three Bianchis to keep the tape looking good on! Good luck on your events this year!
Ha ha one of the things I ❤️ about these wheels are the stealth logos! You need the wheels to take second place to the star of the show, the frame.
The bar tape is a house brand from one of my distributors. It’s the most inexpensive Celeste bar tape because I re-wrap my bars frequently - at least monthly.
Thanks for watching even if your wheels probably look obnoxious on your beautiful Bianchi bike 😝
I think the bar tape is MSW brand
@@gilletteguy787 correct but that doesn’t help someone in the UK 🇬🇧
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad True,but i reply because he want to know the brand and that question wasnt answered in the first place.
@@gilletteguy787 I didn’t answer it on purpose because the answer wouldn’t help him I prefer to help people rather than have them say “well that sucks I can’t get that in the UK 🇬🇧 either”
Hope the ride goes and weather stays away till after or late in the ride.
Looks like the rain is moving much earlier now it’s forecasted at 1pm so only 6 hours into the ride of at least 7.5 hours - 9 hours
How are the Michelin power road tires? I have been using Lithion 3 / Pro 4 endurance and find them grippy with low rolling resistance
I find these really nice! They feel fast to me. As inventory gets better I want to run some 5000 S TR’s
My faves are the Vittoria Corsa but you have to keep them fresh. They are not as puncture resistant as other tires but man the ride quality is freaking amazing!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad love my Corsa Control tyres too! They are a little ‘delicate’ but I inspect them for debris after every ride, to pick out foreign objects, and fill any voids with polyurethane sealant ( as with ALL my tyres)….
@@patrickparisienne1917 ride on Patrick!
Hi George, I understand they’re tubeless compatible. But are they easier or harder to maintain than others?
@@cliffordchan. are “they” ? To maintain what? Please be more specific. What exactly are you asking?
Is that a jacket stored below you bottle cage? How do you secure it?
It is my flat kit. 2 tubes 2 CO2’s, inflator, valve extender, patch kit, tire boot, multi-tool etc
Thanks. Do you happen to remember what the bag/container is? That is a clean way to carry a flat kit.
@@mtbello yes it was made by Salsa - anything bag or something like that
Good luck with the brevet tomorrow
Thank you Jess!
I love the Bianchi green. :)
What saddle is that?
Same as always the SQ Lab 612 Ergowave
Thanks for watching David!
Fingers crossed someday HED tools up to produce a 584mm road rim with their Turbine brake track. Great looking bike and the Celeste bar tape is perfect. Good luck at your events.
Hello Matt that’s never going to happen 😂
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Call me a hopeful realist😆 my primary grievance of being a shorty is most things aren't made for me & 700c doesn't work for me.
@@SkagitLooper boo
@@SkagitLooper you can’t be that short that 700 doesn’t work for you
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I prefer race geometry on 44cm frame. Anything less than a 74° headtube angle just seems slow. When you start dipping below 50cm "sized" race frames with 700c wheels toe overlap can be an issue as it was on my 48cm Vitus 979 Dural frame/fork I rode in the early 90's, which was also a little large for me.
Another great video, thanks. I see you're still a SQLab 612 fan, I was too but after 2+1/2 hours are so it started to really dig into my left hip. I ended up with a BiSaddle, which is a fully adjustable saddle and for me it has been the answer. If you have customers who are having a hard time finding the right saddle fit you might want to look into it. Best wishes for a great new year.
Thank You Ken! Yes, I have been rocking the SQ lab 612 saddle for several years now. This is the third iteration. I don’t know how they can make it any better, but if they do, I’d be interested to try their fourth a duration of the saddle. Thanks for the tip on the saddle you mentioned I’ve never heard of it, but that’s not saying much. 😂
What dont you like about disc brakes on road bikes???I had ceramic rims and pads on my last bike,and I see now everything has a disc..
Hello Michael- there are SO many things I don’t like about disc brakes for road! I don’t even know where to begin.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Dont you love that squeal that sounds like you stepped on a bag of 234 cats?
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad i recall the first time i heard that horrible sound on someone's bike.I had the Shimano ceramics setup,so I had great stopping power and didt have to hear that howl.Now I am shopping around and it's either a Cannondale or the Giant,with the bike budget around $2000.
@@michaels8607 it happened all around me today on my 200 km Brevet (125 mi) 7500 feet. All these guys with their disc brake bikes squealing like mad. It hadn’t even started raining yet. It poured down rain during my last 50 miles and one of the riders with me her rotors started rubbing it wasn’t a tink tink tink - it was a rasping like the whole rotor was running. So yeah all this nonsense about disc brakes better in the rain and yet Lori and I were the first two riders to finish and we were on rim brakes. So where were all the disc brake riders? On all the slick roads and twisty descents - yeah nowhere in sight. Keep in mind all this nonsense about disc brakes being better in the rain 1. That’s compared to what? Oh yeah carbon rim brake wheels are an absolute shit show in the wet! 2. It all comes down to tire traction not braking system.
These disc brake advocates were sold a bill of goods.
Disc for dirt - rim for road.
@@michaels8607 sadly all the majors have gone to disc 😭
Really great bike, love the comment about discs - disk is a four letter word like ruin that ruins a great bike !
Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Nice bike George
Thank you Michael stay dry this weekend 😂
Hi, @George Vargas. May I ask you what specific brand and model of rim brake pads should I use for my Hed Jet Plus black wheels with turbine brake track finish? I would like to maximize the durability of the wheels. Thank you! I'm a subscriber of your channel, BTW.
Hello Luis thank you for being a subscriber. I just use regular Shimano brake pads.
George, what is that fastened to your frame below your bottles?
Hello Sean, I did a video about this tool kit.
My Race Setup for Flat Kit or Anything
ruclips.net/video/aShBae_k504/видео.html
Looking at buying these for the B Bike.
Pray tell what are you putting on the A bike 😂
This is an A bike quality wheel my friend!
I'm lucky enough to have gotten into an Sworks SL7 via a trade in. The b-bike is a '14 hi-Mod synapse. But the old Kyseryiums are cooked.
@@ovathere93 yeah never been a fan of Mavic wheels - any wheel that has proprietary components. People should not walk, but run away from them.
@@ovathere93 he he to me anything specialized I’d like a D bike 😜😜
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad that Giant Sworks can be seen from the Moon!!
Clicked on this video to hear about these wheels and left not having learned a single thing...
Thanks for watching 😊 there are tons more videos on my channel about HED Wheels. Why not ask a question instead of being snarky? What do you want to know? I often make videos answering questions my viewers have posed. This video was a first ride impression I’ve ridden them now a 125 mile 187 mile and a 200 mile races since posting this video. Along with plenty of shorter training rides.
Look who has a carbon bike, welcome to the club
Ha ha silly boy - I’ve carbon frames since 1995.
I can’t tell how many I’ve broken over the years…
Those look 🔥🔥
Thank You sir!
George, enough already about your disdain for disc brakes! Holy crap, your doing a great job alienating riders (viewer’s) who love, enjoy and benefit from them. In this video you spared us all of the reason you hate them. Which you’ve made us aware of numerous times in the past. (Yes, we know, you’re super fast descender so who needs brakes, their too expense, too heavy, to much of a pain to maintain, blah, blah, blah!). But for me, I love speed also, especially the descents, but I love the spot on, dependability and ease in which I can apply and moderate the hydro power. Aside from with, I love tech. Disc brakes and Di2 are truly two advances that take the performance of the bike and myself to the next level. Aside from loving the performance aspects, it makes riding with Dupuytren’s and Raynaud’s syndrome so much less of an issue. (But George, you’re still young. Wait another ten years! :). In addition, unlike your beautiful 75 degree January days that you and Jesse are having to endure, up in the great Northwest the average temp between December, January and February is 42, and typically rains 60% of the week. Just two weeks ago we had 20 +/- degree days to a week or so. The only thing that cut my ride short was the damn ice. So, for me, in addition to the super performance, having discs, and Di2, is the difference between going out and getting in the miles versus staying home during the cold, wet and gray winters (and spring) of the NW.
As for maintenance, granted, a bit more time. But any true rider should enjoy maintaining their ride and as much as riding their bike(s). Sure, if a person can’t properly change standard rim pads, align correctly align,(toe) and cables, then they’re not going to be great at maintaining a disc set-up. However, anyone that can properly maintain a rim brake bike, can do a disc bike, yes, including oil flush without any problem. And for those who don’t like maintaining their bikes, then that’s what shops like yours are for. God knows, it’s a hell of a lot easier than faffing with tubeless tires!
One last note, I see that you replied to a follower above expressing your intention to try some 5000 S TR! Hmmm . . . I thought you were totally fed up and “done” with the bullshit of tubeless (for the road). No?
Thanks for watching 😊
George has a lot of practical insights on bikes. However, if you have a different point of view, he has no place for you.
So zero first ride impressions in the vid.
Yep I’m pretty a first ride impression was talked about and these wheels have been raced a lot on this channel so look around. And don’t be a dock