After rewatching my Logitech BRIO 500 review (ruclips.net/video/e3rbaeGVYJs/видео.html), there was a firmware update installed on the BRIO 500 before I shot this video. It appeared to have corrected the focus hunting I experienced in my initial tests, and you'll also notice that the native color tuning is also better with minimal adjustments (it's much less purple). Those things plus the auto-framing make it a great choice - kudos to the product team and whoever worked on the firmware update at Logitech. 🙂👍
@@chefpeggyhalderman3349 Streamcam between those two, but I prefer the Brio 500 over both. I haven't had good luck with the Brio 4k and I've had 3 of them. They make me look like a Simpsons character.
Hi Jeremy, I have literally been going nuts, reading, watching, searching reviews, wash, rinse repeat, looking for a reasonable upgrade from my cheap $40 webcam. The only holdup for me is being nervous about shopping on amazon, just because of horror stories I have read in reviews. There probably isn't one kind of webcam on amazon without negative reviews of problems ranging from not working, to poor quality. Many of these reviews on youtube don't get into the "alleged" problems that people report. I am looking at a$150 max spending for a cam, but I am not going to be doing any live streaming, just content recording with no moving around, just sitting at a desk talking, etc, but trying to find the best quality for my budget(I have an external mic as well). At the same time, I hate taking risks with something that may quit working after a couple months and not be be able to return it. Where I live, most electronics, in the stores have a 1 year warranty. If it breaks down, just simply take it back to the store. Do you have some advice in what my best bet would be for a reliable webcam ? (considering my budget and circumstances) ? Thanks 😉
@@forlostsouls01 Amazon reviews can be pretty daunting. i don't think you can go wrong with the Brio 500. It's new, so there is still firmware update support, the image is better than previous generations in terms of color balance, software has improved and it works with Windows UVC controls. Amazon reviews also give it 4.4/5 at the moment. I'm not a huge fan of small sensor 4K cameras and I think you'll be fine with 1080p resolution. It's more about your lighting and audio to be honest, versus worrying about 1080p or 4K.
The year is 2024 and the C920 still carries for the price point. I find that most of it short comings can be fixed with proper lighting. If you really want to step up from a webcam, just buy a camera and you will see real quality difference for the amount of money spent. This is just my opinion.
I agree. Another tip for lighting is if you use RGB lighting with the C920, because it's exposure and white balance metering the entire frame, manually set white balance, tune it to your face first, then tweak the color of your background lights to match what a human eye would see. I just got this process down, and it's why earlier videos were very purple or yellow hued, but Logitech (and Nexigo) cameras are very hard to dial in when you have a blue or other colored background, or use green or bluescreen
I have the C920 and I am really satisfied with that - I had it for ages already, but I don't mind keeping it over the Brio 500 'cause for me there wasn't that much difference to it... What I could have wanted besides this is a wifi webcam to have further away from the main desktop and use in that setting... but I don't know where to look for this!? -However: thanks for the comparison video Jeremy -very helpful! -Arnt Petter from Norway 😀
I got the logitech c920 for just $20 at Walmart but just recently bought a pre-owned logitech brio 500 for $50 that actually looks like it was never used and still wrapped in plastic.
Your videos are helping our Northern CO Weavers Guild move into a hybrid meeting! Thx.... Now, where can I find info about what type of computer we need to have to use 2 Brio 4K's? Also, is the yellow tint issue solved? Finally where would I find info about setting up 2 cameras on one computer and how to connect to an external sound system?
Great to hear that 🙂. You probably need to set up OBS so it is easy to switch between 2 cameras. I did a video on that here ruclips.net/video/_oh3G35R23g/видео.html and you would just set up 2 scenes that you can switch between. Remember that you need to set up both a camera and a microphone for both scenes. Brio yellow isn't solved, but you can color correct it in OBS, see ruclips.net/video/TEqQnEuTC44/видео.html
@@chefpeggyhalderman3349 cool. If you are using Teams or Zoom and have OBS set up with your two cameras, you just use the virtual camera feature to take the feed from OBS
@@DeployJeremy it seems that the TechTeam has more questions than I can find answers for. They're raising questions about what type of computer we need to buy along with the specifications, etc. I'm at the point where I am in way over my head, as most of the TechTeam is. Indeed we are fiber artists not computer specialists, and we use zoom at our monthly guild meetings so that people who are a long way away can participate. So… Would it be possible to arrange a consultation with you about everything that we're trying to accomplish and help us understand whether we're on the right track or not. The Tech Team will be meeting this coming Monday afternoon Denver time to review everything we have gathered thus far. My intuition tells me that a formal consultation may be way more beneficial for all concerned… If that would be possible for you. Thanks for even considering this strange request. The guild has to solve the hybrid meeting issue (& purchase all the equipment & software) by August at the latest. Thanks in advance, Chef Peggy.
Hi Peggy, I'd be willing to help. There are a few ways to solve for this depending on what you want to achieve live and if you are planning to publish for on demand viewing on RUclips. Unfortunately, Monday afternoon Denver time doesn't work for me. Can you contact me through my askdeployjeremy gmail account?
A really useful comparison. These logitechs seem to have a functional microphone, whereas so many devices have the bucket in an empty cell sound. (in reviews anyway). Oddly the brio 505 varient is super discounted at the moment in the UK, so I'm trying to work out what the differences are.
I believe some of the variants are just finish and packaging. The initial ones were very much trying to look like recycled materials with different color speckles, other variants are full black. Then others have retail packaging vs. brown cardboard boxes (business packaging).
For mics, the other general observation I'm finding with budget webcams and their internal microphones is that it really does come down to microphone placement and how close it is to your mouth. So for that to work, you need a wide angle lens and to bring the webcam physically closer to your face so your head doesn't fill the frame.
@@DeployJeremy a bit of searching implies that the business cams use a different management software to update the firmware, whereas the consumer ones use G Hub software. Both types use the same camera management software.
Sorry for the late reply, RUclips filtered this one for some strange reason. I think the Logi Tune software now does both enterprise and consumer. Optional TL;DR reading: Having worked in IT for device management, I can imagine how G Hub wouldn't be added to an enterprise software catalog or a standard OS image install sequence. Support terms aside, it's big, the auto-updating (assuming it can't be silently disabled during setup), gaming peripheral RGB support, and because it looks gamer-y, it wouldn't be added. That's a bit of a shame, because the Blue Voice microphone tuning software would be usable in the enterprise and help for remote work. The camera settings app and Logi Tune compared to G Hub seem relatively lightweight in comparison.
Nice video! On next ones, please keep written on the screen the name of the camera you're talking/showing about. So it's easier to remember/compare different parts of the video.
Thanks for the great reviews. It's really helpful. I'm wondering why you included the C920 instead of C922, or is the "Pro" an upgrade from a basic C920? There's so many models, it's confusing!
I actually have both (I have 6 total Logitech C9x cameras 😐), but the C920 seems more common and more searched for, so I tend to use it. Logitech did update internals and optics over the years. The C922 in theory should outperform the C920. I've seen this in bright and naturally lit shots, but in my environment (dark with RGB lights) the differences seem pretty negligible.
C920 Is Best And 2. Best Is Brio 500 3.Best Stream Cam And Brio 4K Is Bad.. But C920 Camera Is Need A Settings Fixxing.. 1.Shiny Areas (Brightness) Need Little Down; 2.Contrast Need A Little Up; 3.Saturation Need A Little Up; Maybe, Shadows Or Dark Areas Could Be Little Down (Make A Darkest) And Volaa.. We Have A Better Than Old Image.. (I Think).
It's not actually the PC, OBS dropped frames and I used Camtasia 22 to edit, which dropped additional frames. I left it in there, because the quality even if you use a 4k still, it isn't giving you every clean pixel and isn't much better than a good 1920x1080 image.
Logitech marketing and sales training team need to learn from your work. I was in 2 different Logitech stores this week to buy a webcam and none of them can help me make a decision.
Thank you. I'm a big fan of the Brio 500 now as far as Logitech goes. I'm starting to wonder if my Brio 4k and C920 have something in the optics stack that yellows with heat or over time. As long as I can remember even when new the Brio 4k image was too yellow and when you adjust white balance for skin tones, it's way too purple. You see it in my videos, too. The 500 is clean and 4k doesn't help with those little sensors imho
i got a new logitech camera and my picture adjustments in g-hub r not automatically applied on other apps. i have to open g-hub and re-chose my settings to get effects working. why is this?
@@DeployJeremy for some strange reason, windows camera app is messing with g-hub picture settings. i can get my settings automatically in teams videocall if i dont open windows camera app after ive applied my g-hub settings.
Hey, what webcam would be good for making videos on RUclips, live streams and giving classes on Zoom? Microphone isn't important. I'm confused between c920 professional and brio 500.
Both are good, but the Brio 500 has better color accuracy and more features. It doesn't have a tripod mount if you need that. I would choose the Brio 500. And it's also a newer camera with better support for firmware updates.
I was looking for a webcam, thank you for the comparison. Looks like I cannot get the Opal C1 in Mexico and mostly, just Logitech stuff was available here so going for the Brio 500 from what I can see in this video. Really helpful.
Love the videos! Thanks for taking the time to do such thorough breakdowns. It's very much appreciated. I do have a question though. If you're deciding between the elgato facecam and the logitech brio 500, which would you choose?
Thanks. That's a tough call. I'd probably say Facecam with both prices being equal. That said, the Brio 500 has a better mount for top down shots and a built in microphone if you don't have a separate microphone
@@DeployJeremy Thank you! I plan on getting a separate microphone, so that really helps with the decision. I appreciate the thoughtful response and your content!
Yeah, if you check out it last video on the Razer Kiyo Pro Ultra, you can see the Sony a5100 capture is really good, too. And I have a video on getting that setup running inexpensively ~$300. ruclips.net/video/i2wiHT1wBUU/видео.html
Hi Jeremy , I have been using the Logitech Brio 500 but on Microsof Teams for Windowns after using it for 10 minutes or so it feezes or shut down the entire compute making it slow. Do you know any fix? I am using the latets firmware of both Windows and Logitech and read online on Microsoft some users experiencing the same. Thank you.
I have the same happen using my Elgato Cam Link 4K capture cards with Teams meetings. I don't know if it is the camera or Teams or something in Windows with the UVC driver - the same happens to me using OBS while recording on many cameras.
It's a Sony ZV-E10 with Viltrox 23mm F1.4 AF lens into a Cam Link capture card. As you rightfully point out, it's kind of buried in the description though.
10k US dollars? I would get a Sony A7S 4 with a 35mm F1.4 autofocus zoom lens as a primary camera, then maybe a Sony a6600 with 16mm f1.4 Sigma AF lens as a secondary camera. That will leave you around $5k for audio (Shure SM7dB), lights and set decoration, assuming you already have a PC capable of streaming.
@@iamrocoyt no worries, that helps. For $120, you can probably find a Logitech BRIO 4K. If you install the updated firmware for it using Logi Tune and get a 12" or larger ring light directed at your face, it will look good. I also like the OBSBOT Meet 4K in that price range.
Are you using logitech capture with the streamcam? I just bought the streamcam about 4 days ago and i am NOT pleased. It overexposes terribly and with the capture software i see no adjustments made when adjust image sliders. I may take it back to best buy. Nor can I install the ACE audio control software. I am using (Mac) late 2016
@@DeployJeremy So with Logitune it will not record into “Capture”? On my Mac, if I use Quicktime for capturing with the StreamCam I only get 1280x720. Is there another software you suggest for capturing webcam on computer? Thanks
@MemphisMike901 I use OBS to record the video itself. It's free and can also modify image and sound settings for recording, but you'll need to spend a little time learning it's features. obsproject.com/ and I did a quick start setup video on it here ruclips.net/video/_oh3G35R23g/видео.htmlsi=gneWEfYTBfTvqPNs
@@DeployJeremy thank you. OBS sounds more like what I need. I figure if i learned Final Cut ProX OBS should be obtainable! Appreciate your answers here. I know this is a somewhat older video.
@@MemphisMike901 No worries. Happy to help and good luck. You can get a basic OBS setup running on a few minutes and take your time getting the most advanced stuff running. By the way, if you're using a USB or XLR microphone with your webcam, you'll want to check this video out to sync audio, which is often about 55ms ahead of your video (this is true whether you use OBS or other recording apps). ruclips.net/video/xM7bJQb3rK0/видео.html
Hey there! Which Logitech tuning software is the best to use? I have both Logi Tune and Logitech G Hub installed. They both seem to do the same thing more or less, I'm confused!
It depends and both change the save underlying settings. If you have other Logitech gear (mic, keyboard, etc) and prefer GHub, use that. If you only have the camera, I'd use that.
I believe the 930 should be slightly better in terms of optics, but I only have the C920 and C922. I have trouble getting the colors to look accurate with either of those
I don't have a 100r monitor to test, but I don't see why it wouldn't. The base is adjustable with a friction foot. The rear of the foot has adhesive for pivoting the camera up/down for top-down shots. You may be limited pivoting your camera up/down frequently if the adhesive isn't making full left-to-right contact, but should be fine for straight on normal filming
Sorry for the delay, RUclips moved this reply to "Held for review" for some reason. 60fps is fine, these adapters don't materially impact USB bandwidth for normal 5 and 10 Gb incoming connections. They might impact 40 Gb Thunderbolt speeds and other aspects, like charging and DisplayPort out, but you don't need to worry about that for a 1080p60 incoming camera feed.
@@ljscalemodels526 i mean on the webcam itself, there is no 3.5mm audio jack, but of course you can use a different mic plugged into your computer. Then you set that microphone as your default. That's how my camera and separate mic is set up on mine.
Why does it says Brio 505 has the detachable usb cord online ? Which one is newer and better Brio 505 or Brio 500 ? And white or graphite black color ? Thanks
They are the same camera from what I can tell. The 500 is the retail model and 505 is the business model. Often that means the packaging is more muted and recyclable (cardboard box), but I would guess that support and servicing terms are also different. Both have graphite, white, and rose color options with a fixed USB-C cable.
@@DeployJeremyoh okay thanks i think im go with the Brio 505 because it says it was released January 2023 ... while the 500 was September 2022 ...its slightly newer, but your right they both have the same specs
@@Wroyals_World_Wit's certainly possible that the internal components are slightly different/updated and business expectation is for the camera to last longer, so it's a good choice.
@@DeployJeremy last few questions be4 i make my purchase ... i appreciate your help .... 1) is the Elgato Facecam better then the Logitech Brio 505 ? Someone said the Brio gets very very warm quickly but the Elgato doesnt... 2) what does business mean ? Would the Brio 505 be good for steaming gaming ? 3) And can you zoom in and zoom out quick and easy with the Brio as your streaming
@@Wroyals_World_W That's a tough call. As a game streamer only, I'd say the Elgato Facecam by a fraction. As a great all around and easy to use, remote work + streaming webcam, I'd normally recommend the Brio 500/505. Elgato Facecam also does not have an internal mic, but I'm guessing that as a streamer, you have one already. If not, for sound quality alone and low price, I really like the Razer Seiren Mini - the only thing it's missing is real time monitoring. I hate wearing headphones for long periods of time, so I'm OK with it, but you may want real time monitoring for game streaming.
UPDATE: With the newest firmware I was able to fix it and no longer resemble Homer Simpson! 2.0.64 is good with auto exposure disabled (-5 for me, gain at 22), and auto white balance disabled (set to 4820). It's a little pink, but 1000% better than before! Thanks for nudging and causing me to upgrade from 2.0.58 to 2.0.64
There shouldn't be an impact on quality using a USB adapter, especially at 1080p. I use them all the time. Quality would only potentially get impacted if the USB A port doesn't have enough bandwidth to support data transfer. For example, USB 2.0 trying to transfer a 4K video will sometimes result in the camera going down to max resolution of 1920x1080 and disabling 4K.
Yes, there are lots of ways to do that. In Windows you can set default mic to another, or using OBS it works like that with separate audio. I'm Teams or Zoom, you can also set to another mic. Note that a separate mic is usually coming in about 50ms faster, so your lips may be slightly out of sync. I did a video on correcting that in OBS
The stuttering I saw is the Brio 4k at 4k. That was my OBS choking, the Brio 500 is smoother at 1080p. My main cameras are 60fps, so the Brio 500's 30fps may look slower post render, but it's 30fps.
After rewatching my Logitech BRIO 500 review (ruclips.net/video/e3rbaeGVYJs/видео.html), there was a firmware update installed on the BRIO 500 before I shot this video. It appeared to have corrected the focus hunting I experienced in my initial tests, and you'll also notice that the native color tuning is also better with minimal adjustments (it's much less purple). Those things plus the auto-framing make it a great choice - kudos to the product team and whoever worked on the firmware update at Logitech. 🙂👍
Cool
Thanks for the info.
Would you go with the BRIO 500 over the Logitech Graphite?
Also, between the Brio 4K & StreamCam, which would you recommend?
@@chefpeggyhalderman3349 Streamcam between those two, but I prefer the Brio 500 over both. I haven't had good luck with the Brio 4k and I've had 3 of them. They make me look like a Simpsons character.
Hi Jeremy, I have literally been going nuts, reading, watching, searching reviews, wash, rinse repeat, looking for a reasonable upgrade from my cheap $40 webcam. The only holdup for me is being nervous about shopping on amazon, just because of horror stories I have read in reviews. There probably isn't one kind of webcam on amazon without negative reviews of problems ranging from not working, to poor quality. Many of these reviews on youtube don't get into the "alleged" problems that people report.
I am looking at a$150 max spending for a cam, but I am not going to be doing any live streaming, just content recording with no moving around, just sitting at a desk talking, etc, but trying to find the best quality for my budget(I have an external mic as well). At the same time, I hate taking risks with something that may quit working after a couple months and not be be able to return it. Where I live, most electronics, in the stores have a 1 year warranty. If it breaks down, just simply take it back to the store. Do you have some advice in what my best bet would be for a reliable webcam ? (considering my budget and circumstances) ? Thanks 😉
@@forlostsouls01 Amazon reviews can be pretty daunting. i don't think you can go wrong with the Brio 500. It's new, so there is still firmware update support, the image is better than previous generations in terms of color balance, software has improved and it works with Windows UVC controls. Amazon reviews also give it 4.4/5 at the moment. I'm not a huge fan of small sensor 4K cameras and I think you'll be fine with 1080p resolution. It's more about your lighting and audio to be honest, versus worrying about 1080p or 4K.
The year is 2024 and the C920 still carries for the price point. I find that most of it short comings can be fixed with proper lighting. If you really want to step up from a webcam, just buy a camera and you will see real quality difference for the amount of money spent. This is just my opinion.
I agree. Another tip for lighting is if you use RGB lighting with the C920, because it's exposure and white balance metering the entire frame, manually set white balance, tune it to your face first, then tweak the color of your background lights to match what a human eye would see. I just got this process down, and it's why earlier videos were very purple or yellow hued, but Logitech (and Nexigo) cameras are very hard to dial in when you have a blue or other colored background, or use green or bluescreen
I have the C920 and I am really satisfied with that - I had it for ages already, but I don't mind keeping it over the Brio 500 'cause for me there wasn't that much difference to it... What I could have wanted besides this is a wifi webcam to have further away from the main desktop and use in that setting... but I don't know where to look for this!? -However: thanks for the comparison video Jeremy -very helpful! -Arnt Petter from Norway 😀
i suggest you use the iriun webcam. you need to install it on your pc and your phone so you can use your phone as a camera while streaming.
Whats the different with C920?
I got the logitech c920 for just $20 at Walmart but just recently bought a pre-owned logitech brio 500 for $50 that actually looks like it was never used and still wrapped in plastic.
Which youd say is better
thank you for providing the supplementary rational measurement units 🙂
I try 😉
Best review on Logitech Webcams so far✨thanks a lot, helped a ot🤘🏻
The older 930e logitech actually has the most accurate color. its an oldie but a goodie - comes with Carl Zeiss Lens.
That's a really good tip and good to know. That must be why so many of them landed in non PTZ meeting rooms or as auxiliary cameras back in the day.
@@DeployJeremy have found another camera with good accurate skin tones. Kiyo Pro Ultra with the new Sony sensor.
I think brio 500 is the best
It's pretty good. I'm looking forward to testing out the Brio Mx next
What is that webcame you originally use ?
I used a Sony ZV-E10 with Viltrox 23mm F1.4 lens for a-roll on this one.
What the app did he use to adjust the camera settings?
That is the relatively new Logi Tune app. It replaces the old camera settings app from Logitech
Your videos are helping our Northern CO Weavers Guild move into a hybrid meeting! Thx.... Now, where can I find info about what type of computer we need to have to use 2 Brio 4K's? Also, is the yellow tint issue solved? Finally where would I find info about setting up 2 cameras on one computer and how to connect to an external sound system?
Great to hear that 🙂. You probably need to set up OBS so it is easy to switch between 2 cameras. I did a video on that here ruclips.net/video/_oh3G35R23g/видео.html and you would just set up 2 scenes that you can switch between. Remember that you need to set up both a camera and a microphone for both scenes. Brio yellow isn't solved, but you can color correct it in OBS, see ruclips.net/video/TEqQnEuTC44/видео.html
@@DeployJeremy That video looks really great....tossing it to our Team!!
@@chefpeggyhalderman3349 cool. If you are using Teams or Zoom and have OBS set up with your two cameras, you just use the virtual camera feature to take the feed from OBS
@@DeployJeremy it seems that the TechTeam has more questions than I can find answers for. They're raising questions about what type of computer we need to buy along with the specifications, etc. I'm at the point where I am in way over my head, as most of the TechTeam is. Indeed we are fiber artists not computer specialists, and we use zoom at our monthly guild meetings so that people who are a long way away can participate. So… Would it be possible to arrange a consultation with you about everything that we're trying to accomplish and help us understand whether we're on the right track or not. The Tech Team will be meeting this coming Monday afternoon Denver time to review everything we have gathered thus far. My intuition tells me that a formal consultation may be way more beneficial for all concerned… If that would be possible for you. Thanks for even considering this strange request. The guild has to solve the hybrid meeting issue (& purchase all the equipment & software) by August at the latest. Thanks in advance, Chef Peggy.
Hi Peggy, I'd be willing to help. There are a few ways to solve for this depending on what you want to achieve live and if you are planning to publish for on demand viewing on RUclips. Unfortunately, Monday afternoon Denver time doesn't work for me. Can you contact me through my askdeployjeremy gmail account?
Thanks for the comparisons
A really useful comparison. These logitechs seem to have a functional microphone, whereas so many devices have the bucket in an empty cell sound. (in reviews anyway).
Oddly the brio 505 varient is super discounted at the moment in the UK, so I'm trying to work out what the differences are.
I believe some of the variants are just finish and packaging. The initial ones were very much trying to look like recycled materials with different color speckles, other variants are full black. Then others have retail packaging vs. brown cardboard boxes (business packaging).
For mics, the other general observation I'm finding with budget webcams and their internal microphones is that it really does come down to microphone placement and how close it is to your mouth. So for that to work, you need a wide angle lens and to bring the webcam physically closer to your face so your head doesn't fill the frame.
@@DeployJeremy a bit of searching implies that the business cams use a different management software to update the firmware, whereas the consumer ones use G Hub software. Both types use the same camera management software.
Sorry for the late reply, RUclips filtered this one for some strange reason. I think the Logi Tune software now does both enterprise and consumer. Optional TL;DR reading: Having worked in IT for device management, I can imagine how G Hub wouldn't be added to an enterprise software catalog or a standard OS image install sequence. Support terms aside, it's big, the auto-updating (assuming it can't be silently disabled during setup), gaming peripheral RGB support, and because it looks gamer-y, it wouldn't be added. That's a bit of a shame, because the Blue Voice microphone tuning software would be usable in the enterprise and help for remote work. The camera settings app and Logi Tune compared to G Hub seem relatively lightweight in comparison.
Nice video! On next ones, please keep written on the screen the name of the camera you're talking/showing about. So it's easier to remember/compare different parts of the video.
Thank you. Good tip, will try to incorporate it.
Thanks for the great reviews. It's really helpful. I'm wondering why you included the C920 instead of C922, or is the "Pro" an upgrade from a basic C920? There's so many models, it's confusing!
I actually have both (I have 6 total Logitech C9x cameras 😐), but the C920 seems more common and more searched for, so I tend to use it. Logitech did update internals and optics over the years. The C922 in theory should outperform the C920. I've seen this in bright and naturally lit shots, but in my environment (dark with RGB lights) the differences seem pretty negligible.
C920 Is Best And 2. Best Is Brio 500 3.Best Stream Cam And Brio 4K Is Bad..
But C920 Camera Is Need A Settings Fixxing..
1.Shiny Areas (Brightness) Need Little Down;
2.Contrast Need A Little Up;
3.Saturation Need A Little Up;
Maybe, Shadows Or Dark Areas Could Be Little Down (Make A Darkest)
And Volaa.. We Have A Better Than Old Image.. (I Think).
it's quite hard to find webcam side to side compare, thanks for that. I wish there was more testing like in low light conditions
Thank you. And thanks for the tip; I will add low light testing in the future.
MJPEG (what all of these cameras do) is *not* the same as MPEG. That extra "J" is actually a pretty huge difference.
Whats the PC you are using? I saw other videos of logitech 4k and they didnt stop so much like that, and the color they can adjust on the app...
It's not actually the PC, OBS dropped frames and I used Camtasia 22 to edit, which dropped additional frames. I left it in there, because the quality even if you use a 4k still, it isn't giving you every clean pixel and isn't much better than a good 1920x1080 image.
thanks a lot man! brio 500 it is!
Logitech marketing and sales training team need to learn from your work. I was in 2 different Logitech stores this week to buy a webcam and none of them can help me make a decision.
Thank you. I'm a big fan of the Brio 500 now as far as Logitech goes. I'm starting to wonder if my Brio 4k and C920 have something in the optics stack that yellows with heat or over time. As long as I can remember even when new the Brio 4k image was too yellow and when you adjust white balance for skin tones, it's way too purple. You see it in my videos, too. The 500 is clean and 4k doesn't help with those little sensors imho
I was about to buy the Brio 4k, but from what I see in this video, would the Brio 505 be a smarter purchase?
i got a new logitech camera and my picture adjustments in g-hub r not automatically applied on other apps. i have to open g-hub and re-chose my settings to get effects working. why is this?
What app are you using the camera in after configuring it? Does it also have UVC camera controls that might be overwriting the G-Hub settings?
@@DeployJeremy for some strange reason, windows camera app is messing with g-hub picture settings. i can get my settings automatically in teams videocall if i dont open windows camera app after ive applied my g-hub settings.
Brío 4k 😍😍😍 nice video Jeremy take your like👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 😁
Logitech c920 was doing good until it died on me in half a year after I bought it. I don't think I will ever rebuy.
I have a c920, and i want to upgrade but it is still going strong after 10 years it is unlucky that yours died so soon.
Thank you for comparing video.
Before watching this video I was trying to upgrade my c920 to a brio 4k.
You saved my life :)
To me C920 gives u better pic & colors with some comparison videos i saw around the YT
Hey, what webcam would be good for making videos on RUclips, live streams and giving classes on Zoom? Microphone isn't important. I'm confused between c920 professional and brio 500.
Both are good, but the Brio 500 has better color accuracy and more features. It doesn't have a tripod mount if you need that. I would choose the Brio 500. And it's also a newer camera with better support for firmware updates.
@@DeployJeremy Thanks allot for the prompt reply! Will certainly go for brio 500.!
@@academicarabic1018 happy to help. Let me know how it goes.
Am i an idiot for saying that the cheapest one seemed best to me?
The C920 has been a great camera since 2012. It just needs good lighting.
the c920 is still the best bang for your buck after all these years.
Agreed. It still holds up
Have you tried Logitech C922 Pro Stream HD webcam?
I was looking for a webcam, thank you for the comparison. Looks like I cannot get the Opal C1 in Mexico and mostly, just Logitech stuff was available here so going for the Brio 500 from what I can see in this video. Really helpful.
Brio 4k is my new favorite now after the recent firmware update. If you do the Brio 500 or Brio 4k, both are great.
Love the videos! Thanks for taking the time to do such thorough breakdowns. It's very much appreciated.
I do have a question though. If you're deciding between the elgato facecam and the logitech brio 500, which would you choose?
Thanks. That's a tough call. I'd probably say Facecam with both prices being equal. That said, the Brio 500 has a better mount for top down shots and a built in microphone if you don't have a separate microphone
@@DeployJeremy Thank you! I plan on getting a separate microphone, so that really helps with the decision. I appreciate the thoughtful response and your content!
I need it for 1080p OBS streaming.
Logitech Brio 500 or Canon Rebel T7?
I don't think the T7 has clean HDMI out. I used to have a T6 and it didn't. The Canon USB camera app also only does 576p or something.
Thanks for this and especially for saying what your standard gear is, which is much better and no doubt a lot more expensive.
Yeah, if you check out it last video on the Razer Kiyo Pro Ultra, you can see the Sony a5100 capture is really good, too. And I have a video on getting that setup running inexpensively ~$300. ruclips.net/video/i2wiHT1wBUU/видео.html
can I use BRIO-500 for recording class lectures on 8x4 feet WHITEBOARD ????? or can I use c922 ???
For that I would actually use the C922. Its image is a little sharper.
Hi Jeremy , I have been using the Logitech Brio 500 but on Microsof Teams for Windowns after using it for 10 minutes or so it feezes or shut down the entire compute making it slow. Do you know any fix? I am using the latets firmware of both Windows and Logitech and read online on Microsoft some users experiencing the same. Thank you.
I have the same happen using my Elgato Cam Link 4K capture cards with Teams meetings. I don't know if it is the camera or Teams or something in Windows with the UVC driver - the same happens to me using OBS while recording on many cameras.
Great review. Which cam are you using to shoot this video?
Thanks! I'm primarily using the Sony ZV-E10 with Viltrox 23mm F1.4 AF lens. Details and lights, dummy battery and capture card are in the description.
Super review and comparison. Thank you.
Glad it helped
Ho about telling us what camera you are using for your intro? It is better looking than any of these webcams.
It's a Sony ZV-E10 with Viltrox 23mm F1.4 AF lens into a Cam Link capture card. As you rightfully point out, it's kind of buried in the description though.
Hello bro,
My budget is 10k and I'm looking webcam for streaming which can have also rgb background.. which webcam should i go for?
10k US dollars? I would get a Sony A7S 4 with a 35mm F1.4 autofocus zoom lens as a primary camera, then maybe a Sony a6600 with 16mm f1.4 Sigma AF lens as a secondary camera. That will leave you around $5k for audio (Shure SM7dB), lights and set decoration, assuming you already have a PC capable of streaming.
@@DeployJeremy Sorry for creating mess, it is 10k Indian rupees. almost 120 dollars.
@@iamrocoyt no worries, that helps. For $120, you can probably find a Logitech BRIO 4K. If you install the updated firmware for it using Logi Tune and get a 12" or larger ring light directed at your face, it will look good. I also like the OBSBOT Meet 4K in that price range.
@@DeployJeremy It's expensive here in India, can you please suggest below 100 US $.
thanks, cam bro
🙂
The difference in picture and audio is not so significant as the price
Iv made my dissection thank ye
Are you using logitech capture with the streamcam? I just bought the streamcam about 4 days ago and i am NOT pleased. It overexposes terribly and with the capture software i see no adjustments made when adjust image sliders. I may take it back to best buy. Nor can I install the ACE audio control software. I am using (Mac) late 2016
I'm not a fan of the Logi Capture software. Logi Tune is nice and lightweight comparatively, but does not record. For me that's fine.
@@DeployJeremy So with Logitune it will not record into “Capture”? On my Mac, if I use Quicktime for capturing with the StreamCam I only get 1280x720. Is there another software you suggest for capturing webcam on computer? Thanks
@MemphisMike901 I use OBS to record the video itself. It's free and can also modify image and sound settings for recording, but you'll need to spend a little time learning it's features. obsproject.com/ and I did a quick start setup video on it here ruclips.net/video/_oh3G35R23g/видео.htmlsi=gneWEfYTBfTvqPNs
@@DeployJeremy thank you. OBS sounds more like what I need. I figure if i learned Final Cut ProX OBS should be obtainable! Appreciate your answers here. I know this is a somewhat older video.
@@MemphisMike901 No worries. Happy to help and good luck. You can get a basic OBS setup running on a few minutes and take your time getting the most advanced stuff running. By the way, if you're using a USB or XLR microphone with your webcam, you'll want to check this video out to sync audio, which is often about 55ms ahead of your video (this is true whether you use OBS or other recording apps). ruclips.net/video/xM7bJQb3rK0/видео.html
The last cam is working at 10fps.
The Sony? It might have been a rendering issue, it's set to 60
Hey there! Which Logitech tuning software is the best to use? I have both Logi Tune and Logitech G Hub installed. They both seem to do the same thing more or less, I'm confused!
It depends and both change the save underlying settings. If you have other Logitech gear (mic, keyboard, etc) and prefer GHub, use that. If you only have the camera, I'd use that.
I find c920 and c930c and Logitech streamcam at the seem price which one i buy ?
I believe the 930 should be slightly better in terms of optics, but I only have the C920 and C922. I have trouble getting the colors to look accurate with either of those
Thanks. Cheapest one looks the best.
the animations are rough
Thank you very much.
Hope it helped. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I use the blue yeti versus webcam mics.
Good choice
I'm a Tutor. I use zoom to conduct lessons. Please which webcam would you suggest I purchase?
Thank you Sir.
Logitech BRIO 500 is a solid choice for its price.
@@DeployJeremy Thank you. I really appreciate
Is there a difference between Brio 4k and Stream Edition?
Not sure, sometimes they bundle in streaming software like Streamlabs.
Look a bit jaundice with the brio 4k
Yup 🙂
camera did you use to record the video 😅 lol it looks nice
oh i see it in the caption thank you!
@DeployJeremy Hi! Will the Brio 500 fit 1000R
curved monitors?
I don't have a 100r monitor to test, but I don't see why it wouldn't. The base is adjustable with a friction foot. The rear of the foot has adhesive for pivoting the camera up/down for top-down shots. You may be limited pivoting your camera up/down frequently if the adhesive isn't making full left-to-right contact, but should be fine for straight on normal filming
@@DeployJeremy Thanks bro!
Nice review.
Lots of good info.
Thanks for sharing.
Now have to decide which one to get.
Brio 500. You can also fine them for under $100 on ebay.
This was so helpful, thanks so much
Happy to help. Thanks for leaving a comment 🙂
Logitech BRIO 500
I don't have USB-C on my PC, how to connect it?
You would use a USB-C to USB-A adapter. You can find them for $3 to $10 (often for a pack of 2) on Amazon and other retailers.
@@DeployJeremy Would 60 fps still work? I mean when using an adaptor and connecting it to USB, instead of type C directly to MB, or will it be locked?
Sorry for the delay, RUclips moved this reply to "Held for review" for some reason. 60fps is fine, these adapters don't materially impact USB bandwidth for normal 5 and 10 Gb incoming connections. They might impact 40 Gb Thunderbolt speeds and other aspects, like charging and DisplayPort out, but you don't need to worry about that for a 1080p60 incoming camera feed.
great vid, thanks jeremy!
What are the supported audio sample rates?
I usually don't add that detail, unless the mic is a major feature, like the Samson Go Mic Video for example. Most webcam mics to my ear aren't usable
Hi Jeremy, great video as I'm about to invest in a webcam, question can you an external microphone with the Brio 500? cheers Liam
You can from your PC or Mac, but it wouldn't plug into the Brio 500.
@@DeployJeremy thanks for getting back to me, why not? Could I plug in a RJL wireless mic?
@@ljscalemodels526 i mean on the webcam itself, there is no 3.5mm audio jack, but of course you can use a different mic plugged into your computer. Then you set that microphone as your default. That's how my camera and separate mic is set up on mine.
@@DeployJeremy thanks so much for getting back to me
does brio 500 looks stuttering?
It shouldn't. If you saw stuttering, it could be the OBS recording, video render or RUclips processing.
Why does it says Brio 505 has the detachable usb cord online ? Which one is newer and better Brio 505 or Brio 500 ? And white or graphite black color ? Thanks
They are the same camera from what I can tell. The 500 is the retail model and 505 is the business model. Often that means the packaging is more muted and recyclable (cardboard box), but I would guess that support and servicing terms are also different. Both have graphite, white, and rose color options with a fixed USB-C cable.
@@DeployJeremyoh okay thanks i think im go with the Brio 505 because it says it was released January 2023 ... while the 500 was September 2022 ...its slightly newer, but your right they both have the same specs
@@Wroyals_World_Wit's certainly possible that the internal components are slightly different/updated and business expectation is for the camera to last longer, so it's a good choice.
@@DeployJeremy last few questions be4 i make my purchase ... i appreciate your help ....
1) is the Elgato Facecam better then the Logitech Brio 505 ? Someone said the Brio gets very very warm quickly but the Elgato doesnt...
2) what does business mean ? Would the Brio 505 be good for steaming gaming ?
3) And can you zoom in and zoom out quick and easy with the Brio as your streaming
@@Wroyals_World_W That's a tough call. As a game streamer only, I'd say the Elgato Facecam by a fraction. As a great all around and easy to use, remote work + streaming webcam, I'd normally recommend the Brio 500/505. Elgato Facecam also does not have an internal mic, but I'm guessing that as a streamer, you have one already. If not, for sound quality alone and low price, I really like the Razer Seiren Mini - the only thing it's missing is real time monitoring. I hate wearing headphones for long periods of time, so I'm OK with it, but you may want real time monitoring for game streaming.
Best Webcam for live maths class under $ 250?
Are you the teacher? I would get something with a gimbal built in, like the OBSBOT Tiny PTZ 4K or Insta360 Link
brio 500 vs streamcam?
I prefer the 500, the the Streamcam with sufficient light is also pretty good.
What is the firmware version of BRIO 4K? Is it 2022 version?
It claims to be up-to-date with version 2.0.64
UPDATE: With the newest firmware I was able to fix it and no longer resemble Homer Simpson! 2.0.64 is good with auto exposure disabled (-5 for me, gain at 22), and auto white balance disabled (set to 4820). It's a little pink, but 1000% better than before! Thanks for nudging and causing me to upgrade from 2.0.58 to 2.0.64
That seems like it’s the older 2017 model. Amazon has 2022 model. Older model had bad auto focus issue.
Can you test WAAWO‘s webcam
Can you use the Brio 500 with an adapter to UBS C to USB A and have the same image quality?
There shouldn't be an impact on quality using a USB adapter, especially at 1080p. I use them all the time. Quality would only potentially get impacted if the USB A port doesn't have enough bandwidth to support data transfer. For example, USB 2.0 trying to transfer a 4K video will sometimes result in the camera going down to max resolution of 1920x1080 and disabling 4K.
@@DeployJeremy Thanks!
Brio 4K cam makes you look a greenish yellowish.
It really does. C920 actually does this, too, when you try manually adjusting white balance to remove its purple tone.
whats the best option for home office? teams meetings etc. the brio 500 or c920?
Brio 500 all day
what camera do you use normally in the video that is not the logitec cameras?
I normally use a Sony A7 or ZV-E10
I see it now in your description: Sony A7 II
You look like Simson on brio 😅
True, like Homer with hair. 😉
thank you for nice review videos love brio500 design.
It's a great webcam
Can you try adding mokose HDMi cams to a yolobox?
I'm sorry, I don't have a Yolobox. They look pretty handy though.
How much fps is the brio 500?
It will do 30fps at 1080p and 60fps at 720p
@@DeployJeremy what’s a good budget camera with 1080p 60 fps
@@jonscriffignano the Logitech BRIO 4K can do 1080p 60 and is relatively inexpensive these days.
@@DeployJeremy Anything for $80 or less that’s 1080p 60 fps?
Excelente video
Thank you
Can I turn the mic off the c920 and record audio with a mic instead? Great comparisons btw!
Yes, there are lots of ways to do that. In Windows you can set default mic to another, or using OBS it works like that with separate audio. I'm Teams or Zoom, you can also set to another mic. Note that a separate mic is usually coming in about 50ms faster, so your lips may be slightly out of sync. I did a video on correcting that in OBS
I ONLY CAN SEE THE DIFERENCES IN 1440p+ MONITOR ULTRAWIDE
great video! thank you very much
Hello can I connect to ps5 brio 4k?
Are you kidding me? Brio 500 stutters like crazy here.
The stuttering I saw is the Brio 4k at 4k. That was my OBS choking, the Brio 500 is smoother at 1080p. My main cameras are 60fps, so the Brio 500's 30fps may look slower post render, but it's 30fps.
I bought the Brio 500 based on this video, but the quality is garbage...