Water main break and repair in Edmonton Ab. The crews from Epcor, City of Edmonton, and several other companies all did a fine job. They were a great bunch of people.
9:05 Thank god for the trench box! I have heard of horrible stories of guys leaving the trench box while laying down pipe and a sudden collapse kills them.
Yeah I did it for a job few years back going into a hole that's still leaking at full pressure at 1 or 2 am when its near 0°c is the stuff dreams are made of
Under a road they must be at least 800mm deep(depending type of road if its a main/busyrd"highway.freeways etf it must be a min of 1500mm deep) if road is a dirt road they can be 700mm below and under a non road surface they can be 700mm(pending diameter of pipe)
Great video,I do this type of work here in Newportnews Va. and we do things a little different here! We use hydraulic pipe cutters that seem like they weigh a ton! I think I like your pipe cutters better! We use a ratchet wrench whereas you guys use a neumatic wrench.Our 441 repair couplings look a little different from yours....That main was deep! Are all of your mains that deep?
27Drynn From looking it up, Edmonton Requires 2.67m for 300mm pipe. Size and depth very - Bigger watermain, deeper down. Where I live it is 2.0m and we had a lot of bursts this winter. Again this is minimum so it can be deeper if needed.
For the people yip yaping. Yes there is always a better, faster way and there is always a slow time wasting way. You use what you have. And as long as it's safe fine.
Nice Video, i know that kind of work myself, is it normal in this area to use such a tractor type digger, for such important work? I think the 8 to 12 ton Mobile Excavator is twice as fast?
I do this exact same job. Some things we do different is we almost never have a vector out unless there are utilities close to where we are digging. (I wish we had one available like you do) Also we use a stihl ts700 to cut pipe. I do not envy the way you do it lol. It's hard to tell is the an 8 or 10?
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Maybe you have different regulations in Canada but you should never fully depressurize the main prior to excavating all the way around it to avoid contamination. Didn't see where they disinfected the new pipe and couplings prior to installation but maybe they did. The main is quite deep and ya, that would take a while with that backhoe.
Typically you open a hydrant and flush the line out of any debris as you pressurize the line and swab the new pipe with a mop soaked in bleach. Over excavating and placing a couple of yards of stone helps the pump keep the trench dry, getting mud into the exposed pipe is not good.
Don't miss being up to my ass in water at 3 am while it's 12° out....I live in the upper northeast.....it gets friggin cold up here in the winter. The only thing I miss is some of the guys....
here in the south we call the trench box coffins which makes no since considering their purpose, but in my experience working in the water utilities in the south, everything we do is ass backwards.
i am really jealous of you guys if you look how i do the same work in greece in my home town nea moudania chalkidiki you will pull your hair of your head... no helping hands no safety plates no power tools no support truck.. me my car ( fiat stilo 1.3) and a bold guy with a very old jcb :/ :/ i cant count the days that i was working inside the bucket of the jcb because the walls of my dig kept crashing down on me ....
I think some serious time could have been saved if for say a 65,000lb excavator was used to dig mainline repair on this job. But then again maybe one wasnt available. Loading trucks with a backhoe on this kind of job calls for an excavator with its reach and swing time
Rob G Well for where I do this type of work which is in New Jersey, depending on how deep the watermain is we use a Kubota around the sam size as a 75g John Deere usually a backhoe is more time consuming
Man when did the world become so scared if it's own shadow. It's kinda sad but some of the stuff we are made to do in the name of safety actually put us in a way more unsafe situation. Like these guys with that safety cage. That cage gives a false sense of safety and they aren't as aware of things around them so if something that that cage can't protect them against but they think it will happens they are more likely to ignore it until it's to late. Jeez.
You would never use a repair clamp on a longitudinal break like that. If it was a circumferencal break you could, but with a break like in the video, the pipe would eventually crack more.
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Town: so how long have you been a backhoe operator?
Operator: this is my first time.
Town: you're hired.
Some 3/4 clear stone would clean that hole up nice, work comfortable.
Great video. I am a plumber and have a backhoe. People don't know how much work it is to so this stuff. Loved it.
I commend you guys you give it hell and you do very good work. Just a Thank you from a friend.
9:05 Thank god for the trench box! I have heard of horrible stories of guys leaving the trench box while laying down pipe and a sudden collapse kills them.
Trench boxes are for pussy men
This guy really knows how to lay the pipe.
great job. I can imaging that this is twice as much fun in the winter.
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Yeah I did it for a job few years back going into a hole that's still leaking at full pressure at 1 or 2 am when its near 0°c is the stuff dreams are made of
I did that job repairing for 5 years in Toronto then I became an investigator
awesome video!
Nice when you have all the equipment and guy's, even a vac truck back then.
My cup of tea!
in the colder climates the pipe needs to be barred below the freeze line so the pipe wont freeze.
No. Saa. Really. ! I thought they layed it on the ground so your water was kinda like refrigerated when it got to your house. You dumb ass
That is one large break!
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yes. the water mains are deep here as gets very cold in the winter
Under a road they must be at least 800mm deep(depending type of road if its a main/busyrd"highway.freeways etf it must be a min of 1500mm deep) if road is a dirt road they can be 700mm below and under a non road surface they can be 700mm(pending diameter of pipe)
I love this kind of work its so awesome to watch I wish I could do this everyday!
Nice thick street!
Great video,I do this type of work here in Newportnews Va. and we do things a little different here! We use hydraulic pipe cutters that seem like they weigh a ton! I think I like your pipe cutters better! We use a ratchet wrench whereas you guys use a neumatic wrench.Our 441 repair couplings look a little different from yours....That main was deep! Are all of your mains that deep?
27Drynn From looking it up, Edmonton Requires 2.67m for 300mm pipe. Size and depth very - Bigger watermain, deeper down. Where I live it is 2.0m and we had a lot of bursts this winter. Again this is minimum so it can be deeper if needed.
For the people yip yaping.
Yes there is always a better, faster way and there is always a slow time wasting way.
You use what you have. And as long as it's safe fine.
Have been in that situation so many times.
10:30 WOW. Very professional overall.
9:08 now I understand the purpose of the that cage
FYI, it is called a trench box
Nick_Carriere That one is called a "Trench Shield" a trench box has four sides.
6771Randy We just call them trench boxes where I am.
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Nice Video, i know that kind of work myself, is it normal in this area to use such a tractor type digger, for such important work? I think the 8 to 12 ton Mobile Excavator is twice as fast?
Where is this?
Does muddy water flow in the houses after the repair is over?
They will or should flush the water through a fire hydrant at one end of the pipe shutdown and also get samples to take to the lab.
I do this exact same job. Some things we do different is we almost never have a vector out unless there are utilities close to where we are digging. (I wish we had one available like you do) Also we use a stihl ts700 to cut pipe. I do not envy the way you do it lol.
It's hard to tell is the an 8 or 10?
Might be a 8
That thing they use to cut the pipe is kinda cool we just use a demo saw cuts like a laser
JuSt O looks like hard work, like a giant plumbers copper tube cutter, i suspect they are not allowed to use a stihl saw because of health and safety.
Could be called snapper, puts a groove around the pipe then it snaps
Wow.. y’all cut out steel and replace with pvc!!! Lol I wish we did that and we cut are pipe with a sthil saw.
The guy on the backhoe is pretty good.
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Maybe you have different regulations in Canada but you should never fully depressurize the main prior to excavating all the way around it to avoid contamination. Didn't see where they disinfected the new pipe and couplings prior to installation but maybe they did. The main is quite deep and ya, that would take a while with that backhoe.
This is America dip shit we eo things a little different
Typically you open a hydrant and flush the line out of any debris as you pressurize the line and swab the new pipe with a mop soaked in bleach. Over excavating and placing a couple of yards of stone helps the pump keep the trench dry, getting mud into the exposed pipe is not good.
@@andrewstarkey6686 the description says its in edmonton BC...thats in canada
100% Mike. Gotta have positive pressure to ensure no back siphonage occurs
Great
Safely excavation should be done without damaging main pipe line further. If it's not done that way. Repair cost going to be higher than expected.
I can't believe how deep the main is. Getting to the main is actually harder than the repair. You're definitely not in Florida.
How it's named to big round collar at 10:30?
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I like the video
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Used to do this for a living. I don't miss it one bit....👍
Why you don't miss it?
Don't miss being up to my ass in water at 3 am while it's 12° out....I live in the upper northeast.....it gets friggin cold up here in the winter. The only thing I miss is some of the guys....
@@charlie418791 Gotcha!
here in the south we call the trench box coffins which makes no since considering their purpose, but in my experience working in the water utilities in the south, everything we do is ass backwards.
Yha why would the south need a trench box. Aint your water mains about laying on top of the ground lmao !
IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF THEY HAD A RUBBER TYPED EXCAVATOR. IT WOULD HAVE A STRONGER BOOM THAN THE BACKHOE HAS.
why didn't they use mobile excavators?
No point.
yea every other city in northern ontario dose
i am really jealous of you guys if you look how i do the same work in greece in my home town nea moudania chalkidiki you will pull your hair of your head... no helping hands no safety plates no power tools no support truck.. me my car ( fiat stilo 1.3) and a bold guy with a very old jcb :/ :/ i cant count the days that i was working inside the bucket of the jcb because the walls of my dig kept crashing down on me ....
Thank God you are still here.
they never use a backhoe for the whole job in my home town cuz the city has two wheeled volvo excavators
Motorcycle excavators? That's awesome!
Yha. We got the uni cycle version in our town. Called a banjo. With a wooden handle.
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Wish I had a dollar for every one of those I did!
I got paid hundreds of dollars for everyone I did.
If you didn’t at least get a dollar for everyone you did, you got ripped off.
Shit,,, must have forgot the cement in the concrete
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Put some new pins in the bucket
of all the days i forgot to install a thumb...................
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I think some serious time could have been saved if for say a 65,000lb excavator was used to dig mainline repair on this job. But then again maybe one wasnt available. Loading trucks with a backhoe on this kind of job calls for an excavator with its reach and swing time
Much like any emergency Call chances are the Perfect equipment for the job simply was not available.
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Rob G Well for where I do this type of work which is in New Jersey, depending on how deep the watermain is we use a Kubota around the sam size as a 75g John Deere usually a backhoe is more time consuming
65000lbs? You're crazy man.
Man when did the world become so scared if it's own shadow. It's kinda sad but some of the stuff we are made to do in the name of safety actually put us in a way more unsafe situation. Like these guys with that safety cage. That cage gives a false sense of safety and they aren't as aware of things around them so if something that that cage can't protect them against but they think it will happens they are more likely to ignore it until it's to late. Jeez.
What are you talking about? That box will save your life if those walls fall in. Without those boxes guys have died getting crushed and suffocating.
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this is a "waterway"
So people don't physically open with there hand anymore.....it's not difficult it's easy
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If you're a NAIT student watching this please inform Mike that he owes me 50 bucks, thank you
What year is this...1962? Murica is like 50 years behind northern Europe when it comes to constuctionequipment.
This looks very similar to how its still done in most parts Sweden at least. What exactly is your gripe with this method?
This isn't America, it's Canada, and what is wrong with the equipment?
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10:09... Did that woman at the top of the ladder get lost on the way to her kitchen?
The lads make a wheel barrow out of her at lunch time and take turns plumbing her hole.
New definition of a job box.
She got a fat ass though
Can tell at 5:08
Why not use pipe repair clamp? it will be fast and save cost, No need cut the pipe
You would never use a repair clamp on a longitudinal break like that. If it was a circumferencal break you could, but with a break like in the video, the pipe would eventually crack more.
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That's what happens when you push pipes together with a machine instead of using a pipebar
joshuey cowan lol try pushing 16" american water main and let me know how that goes 😂
Somebody needs an excavator with a hydraulic thumb fitted.
Not neccessary..
And thats a backhoe by the way
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That guy slow for backhoe operator
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They should have used an excavator
Way to big and make more of a mess, that hole is way big already.
One of the worst operators I have ever seen!!!
slow ass operator
Real men don't use safety garbage.