Years ago in Tacoma, city water made the final hookup to a new sub division of high end houses. They had just finished when a guy came up and asked them what they were doing with his pipe. They said who are you? He replied he was the sewer dept supervisor and that the water main was 4 feet deeper. Yup, they hooked an entire new subdivisions water system to a high pressure sewer line. Water dept spent the next month flushing and chlorinating the system.
We only had 3 guys and our supervisor. The rest of the audience was residents and the contractors that did the damage. We always draw a crowd at our circus! 😂
i used to be on the local public works team when i was a kid and i absolutely loved this kind of work. i also loved having a good group of guys around me that didn't get upset when i had a question
I worked for a municipality in the early 1990's, and this happens.However I worked with one of the best backhoe operators, and he worked within inches of me as I was the shovel man.This deep, you have to get away from the bucket,and use your shovel.Busted water mains, 6" and 12" are no fun, especially in winter.
The Friday remark cracked me up...I've been a general contractor for 30+ years; I've been singing "♫♫ we don't do plumbing on friday ♫" for decades! Make sure it's leak proof on thursday...It'll wait till monday...:)
or you just get the job done that you're paid to do. Thanks for adding another item on my checklist when looking for contractors. You do the work within the timeframe or you get sacked If you're too lazy to get it done in time, i have zero need for you
Reminds me of an Irish joke.. back when no one was p.c.... how many Irishmen does it take to change a light bulb.... 1 to hold the bulb and 100 to turn the house. 🤣😂😁😀😎
Brings back memories, I used to work for a municipality on the new construction crew when there was a main break and I was on call , I remember having to go out several times within the three years I worked there at 2,3,4 am I do not miss those days . We were usually working with 8”to 12” mains a lot of them were AC pipe
I like how they just use the mini digger to ram the star pickets into the ground. When I was growing up, there would be at least one guy with a sledge hammer, hammering it into the ground. Later on they invented a steel piece of tubing designed specifically to hammer up and down on the star picket to ram them into the ground. Those hydraulics make a far more effective ram than the effort a heavily built worker can muster.😁👍👍
I just had the same problem only difference was they drilled through a main sewer line. And of course the one call markings wasn’t even close to the line
Utility installers? I went to check out a blockage in a concrete pipe culvert. When I looked in the pipe there was a gas line running though it that the gas company either horizontal drilled or vibra plowed through the pipe.
5:28 I make those utility maps for a living and I hate when our locators only use my maps instead of finding the pipes. Our maps have all kinds of room for errors and are only supposed to be used to get an idea of what's what. Nothing GIS does can replace real world obsevations.
As utility Locator I totally agree with you . Locators need understand maps are just to show you a general idea of where the lines could be trench not always 100% accurate .
Why dig whit a tooth bucket? Always when we looking for something we dont. Want to destoy we use a bucket whitout tooth, you get so much more controll of what tou doing then, but i see, we worl alot different here in sweden😅
Wow you guys get a backhoe. I have seen three breaks on our street (idiots used galvanized connectors in the 60's), all the city workers had were shovels, poor saps.
Maps never wrong, lol, famous last words....Speaking of maps "never" being wrong, y'all should come out to Oklahoma, I'll show ya where towns have lines going all over the place per the maps and where they "actually" are.... Working for BU&U (they don't like it when you use the actual name so go back one letter to figure it out) I stress to individuals how important it is to locate cable, phone, sewer, natural gas, electric and water lines, sucks when you get people that don't and then cause major issues like we had 6 years ago, major fiber line cut and took out Northern Texas and Southern Oklahoma for 10 hours, that company got fined by the FCC for over 8 million, took out 39 911 call centers and left a million customers out of service, so yeah, it's a big deal....
@@miraak542 took me a second to get that but yeah they're literally the devil of communications hahahah! Watched my bosses go and get into several fights with them over transmission lines rights when we were out flagging trucks
I was in Oklahoma last month.. and let me tell you the guys over there don't even know where the water is.. maps all wrong.. we were digging and we saved the water more then 3 times. And gas also...
About 15 year ago, they were putting in a new sewer line that was to run through the backyards of the houses on my street. When they were digging the initial trench for the sewer access point, they hit a 2" water line that was not on the city maps. They all bailed out, except for one guy who was having trouble climbing out. No one would help him as the trench quickly filled up. So I rushed forward and hauled him out. And then turned and started cussing at all the other workers who left him there. They had to cut the water to my street and the next street over so that they could pump the trench and do the repair. They did find an older map that did have the line on it, but it was not on the new map. So knowing this, they went forward, albeit a bit more carefully and put in the sewer line. But you have to think. Someone, somewhere fucked up.
@@TimMcArdle the guy in the hole left construction and became a paramedic. I still see him occasionally around town. He always smiles and waves. Sometimes a simple act can leave a lasting impression.
We dealt with this for 2 years straight but we do both water and sewer and I swear they wouldn’t start working until time for us to get off we had so much overtime
The cable company came through our town and there wasn’t any point in call before you dig . They hit everything. As far as the smart asses that complain about how many people are there. When you don’t know what you are up against and you have rate payers without water , you send everyone. 20 years on the job speaking from experience .
Everyone for a little water leak, I don’t know I usually fix them alone. With a crew of 2 guys we do it all day long! There isn’t enough space in the hole for more then 2! And surprise, it was only 2 guys who did the work because it’s a 2 man job.
Well, the mark for water wasn't even close... maybe the spotted around where the mark was, never found it, and thought they were good to go at that depth.
We drilled 8 feet away from what was marked and still hit the main water line. Not only was it NOT our fault, the company responsible for marking had to pay the damages along with a $15,000 fine. Also I can drill into an 8" hole at any depth no problem
this is why i prefer open trench installation ,you will actually know what's down there,and rectify a mess whan it arises... as for the directional drilling you might hit stuff that you are not aware of and cause alot of avoidable
AT&T installed fiber in my neighborhood not too long ago. They bored mostly everything and used that same orange conduit. When we had it installed in our house, I helped the installer run fiber through it and it went across the street and 2-3 houses down to the next box. I thought it was pretty cool. Before they started boring though they had flags everywhere and spray paint all on the road. Now that I'm typing this, I just remembered there were a few city trucks tearing up the road down the street not too long after they did it. I wonder if that was just a coincidence now or if something got screwed up lol.
18 inches (pretty much 2 ft) from either side of a markout. But a lot of contractors ignore that and will literally drop a bucket on the very edge of the paint line. As a result a lot of locators mark way wider, meaning you get a less accurate markout. Haha it's an endless loop.
Cable company up where I work went across the street and straight through a huge culvert on the other side of the road. Positivity, some flooding and stick-to-it-iv-ness ensued. I.e., they fled and we fixed the problem for them.
I really feel for guys up north! I've watched work done up north there and man, you guys earn your money on those! We average around 3 to 4 ft here. We've dug some old services that where barely 2 ft under roads.
I mean I watch a lot of your Videos!! And yes you guys do good work no doubt!! But being in this trade as well for 20 plus …. And being a boss for the last 12 years I just find it it strange how none of your guys ever have on hard hats etc…….. JS you guys do you I get it!! And you can run crews how ever you feel!! Just to me un professional!!!!! I mean yea you have to get in and get the work done ✅ FS!!! And yes you guys do ,,, do good work… just hope no one ever gets hurt !!!! Keep up the good work!!!!👍🏻…..
Funny how everyone talks about the crowd standing around one guy digging... I get it though. Usually there's one company responsible for digging up the pipe and fixing it, they'll have a crew of 3 or 4 and there's really only room for one in the hole. Then you might have a superintendent on the site, if they hit something he'll be there for sure, and if they have a safety guy him too, and if there's electric lines in the area you might have electricians out there too in case they're needed, and of course if it's city you also have city guys waiting to be helpful. It's a really frustrating situation, but it does make it better when everybody that might be needed is right there and ready to jump in if needed.
We're used to it. Lol we actually only had 3 on our crew at this time and our crew leader was there making 4. Everyone else was either an employee for the fiber company or from some other dept. Had some curious citizens as well.
Usually you have someone on spot to, just looking out for hazards. Helpful to have someone to head off the questions from bystanders or neighbors who insist that it's taking too long. No, taking too long is when you tear out a length of people because you were rushing.
There has to be someone on the fiber crew to overlook to make sure the process is done to spec. Correct depth, length of cable coming out of the conduit etc. People don't know unless they work it. City crews is a different story, they all watch one guy work lol
Some years ago I was working at a several hundred million dollar resort and since the Director of Engineering and his assistant were out of town so I had the football and it started ringing at 7:30 and there was panic because half of the resort was without power and we had a few big functions scheduled so I calmly drove the 30 minutes to the resort, going over in my head possible scenarios. I pulled into the parking lot and saw a bunch of people screaming and yelling (mostly directed to the two on sift maintenance guys who didn't know squat about squat) and a dude sitting on a backhoe with this head in his hands as his foreman was tearing into him. I walked over and looked in the hole and I knew exactly what happened. I told the backhoe operator that it wasn't his fault and his foreman was ready to light into me and I think he realized that that would not be a smart thing to do. I asked the backhoe operator if he wanted a cup of coffee as I had to go into the shop and dig out the "AS BUILTS", grab 2 cups of coffee and a tape measure. So I rounded everything up and went back up and handed the dude his cup of coffee and his super was fit to be tied. I told him that even before I started measuring off buried cable, he needed to calm down. We had to wait for the power company to respond anyway before anything else could be taken care of. I then took the :AS BUILTS" and laid them on the hood of my car. By now my General Manager (who was not a nice person on the best of days came over and he literally had steam coming out of his ears and before he could say anything, I asked him to go back to his office, that I had the situation under control. I know he wanted to fire me on the spot, but thought better of it, because I was the only person in town that weekend that knew how things worked. So, he stormed off biting everyone's head off. I looked at the "AS BUILTS", figured out where the drawing showed where the lines were SUPPOSED to be and got out my measuring tape and made a big fuss over markers and reference points and walked over to where the utilities were marked on the pavement. The "AS BUILTS" were a good TEN FEET OFF and the contractor went by THOSE plans, not knowing they were way off and the poor backhoe operator was merely following the markings and the poor guy yanked out a 20,000 volt cable, resulting in a back feed that took out the two other large transformers next to it. The fuses blew but not before back feeding into my VFD's for the pumps and cooling towers (happy to say the chillers had great protection) I told the super that he needed to APOLOGIZE to the backhoe operator and if he didn't I would have him removed from the property. I then remarked the lines on the driveway and made sure they understood EXACTLY where things were. The power company arrived and got the line patched up and we were back in business. I then had to rig around the VFD's to get the chillers back up and running. I then had to call all over the place to find a supplier and contractor who had the parts and a technician to change them out (THAT was way above my pay grade) and he finished up late Sunday afternoon. It was NOT a cheap repair, but I had no choice. That'll teach them to go away for a weekend and leave ME (who wasn't officially a "supervisor") in charge. Moral of the story: DOUBLE AND TRIPLE CHECK THE DRAWINGS.
We use to do that with one man on the backhoe, one in the hole, and one to get parts up and hand to the man in the hole, and larger mains than that tiny pipe!
Heck I had done some main leaks by my self in black top and just a shovel and jackhammer, most the time was 2 guy's and when I transferred to a area that was rocky we had a hoe then but most of the time still 2 guy's and on a good day 3. Private water company.
These are the kind of jobs, folks, kind of like roadwork, where you will "stand around" for a portion of the job. And then work like crazy during the parts where everyone on the crew is called for and needed. If all you see is guys "standing around," you're not seeing everything (because of the camera shots) or paying attention. Me? I'm wondering why there was no shoring put in when they got near and past the 5' mark.
yeah it's because majority of the people making these comments never worked a day in their lives in a job like this..sure for an outsider it seems like waste, but it's not.
New Excavation Commercial/residential, small city right next to a full apt building. Tie backs bored in to help hold wall before concrete. Tie backs are bored in at necessary levels hold wall. Large bore for a cable and bore oversizes at the end and all is filled mud(concrete to you nubes, different story). One tieback bore went through the neighboring arts sewer. 24hr. day job until replaced.🥴
Maps are ALWAYS off. I've done inspection of a street renovation and there were ALWAYS mistakes on the layout, plus unmapped LIVE lines, including gas lines. I've witnessed a bulldozer using it's ripper when it hit a unmapped industrial gas main. The driver simply got off the track as if he was headed to get lunch, nothing more. Another hit a fiber optical cable that supplied the entire South Texas Region with long distance service. The cable was in the WRONG place. The surveyor ASSumed it was in the right place, marked it as-is on the ground. The contractor dug besides the site, and sliced it. The telecom, MCI at the time, had it patched in record time- 8 hours. This is why you always call 811 before you dig to check for buried lines.
I was making $2.10 an hour when I started working for my daddy's plumbing company in the summer when I was 15 years old in 1978 and my job was digging all day with a shovel in 95 plus heat in central Louisiana but I was happy on payday after taxes I think I brought home about 65 to 70 bucks Anyway with what people get paid today to do the same thing i did you should never be seen standing around without a shovel in your hand and always be the first person to jump in the hole and start digging especially if you're boss is there or could pull up at any time
Me, who just spent a week working around/over water main and shut-offs while installing two approaches and a gravel parking pad, to Power Pole contractor finishing up hanging a transformer on a new poil, and about to pound in a 12 foot ground rod: “Hey, uh, you might want to move that, you’re aiming right at a 12” high-flow regional water feed…” “Nah, fam, I’m all good, you just put your little bobcat machine away and get out of my face..” “Your funeral…” Me, looking down between the ramps as I’m driving up on my equipment trailer: “Oh, hey, look, a new instant lake…” Also Me, to County officials who just spent 15 minutes driving up and down the street to find the shutoff: “Hey, guys? You’re PARKED RIGHT OVER IT… See the nice cast iron rings and covers?” At least we had an excavator on site yet, so we could open a hole for the county to fix the line fairly quickly. But that was a huge flood and waste of water.
@@TimMcArdle u gota be very careful.how u ask, because youtube is smart and will delete it. thanks though 4 real. I got u from here on though. u will see me in the comment section and a thumbs yup for sure
if that was anglian water in the uk they would have closed the road for a week after putting traffic lights up then disappeared for days before doing any work
That poor thing is a '95 with almost 5000 hours. It had that much slop when I started 11 years ago and hasn't gotten any worse. Pump her full of grease and she's loyal. I very seldom hammer a bucket on the ground.
This is 100% accurate, I use to work on a local council and it's usually 1 bloke on the shovel and 3 ute loads of blokes for moral support.
Years ago in Tacoma, city water made the final hookup to a new sub division of high end houses. They had just finished when a guy came up and asked them what they were doing with his pipe. They said who are you? He replied he was the sewer dept supervisor and that the water main was 4 feet deeper. Yup, they hooked an entire new subdivisions water system to a high pressure sewer line. Water dept spent the next month flushing and chlorinating the system.
That stinks. Lol
shit
wow
That is so funny.
I can tell this is legit by all the guys standing around.
And people wonder why their water and sewer bills are so high...
lazy union workers...
We only had 3 guys and our supervisor. The rest of the audience was residents and the contractors that did the damage. We always draw a crowd at our circus! 😂
@@mmaybee2353 no traffic control, no safety gear. That ain't union
Tell us your hands are softer than a baby's ass, without blah blah blah...
one thing i can say is awesome for the city...... yall saved the heck outta diesel hand digging 70% of it. time to set a mailbox.
Looks like a dream job standing out in the nice weather watching someone dig a hole lol
the American job , stand around looking at a pipe get a cheap fix done and go home early , they work harder during the labor union strikes lol
‘Merica
Watching the guy did is one of the most important jobs to make sure you don't hit damage or destroy some that wasn't marked
you look at the arms on everybody there, theve all slung shovels
Looks like same should apply for an easy job there. I hope you have a good back.
i used to be on the local public works team when i was a kid and i absolutely loved this kind of work. i also loved having a good group of guys around me that didn't get upset when i had a question
I worked for a municipality in the early 1990's, and this happens.However I worked with one of the best backhoe operators, and he worked within inches of me as I was the shovel man.This deep, you have to get away from the bucket,and use your shovel.Busted water mains, 6" and 12" are no fun, especially in winter.
The Friday remark cracked me up...I've been a general contractor for 30+ years; I've been singing "♫♫ we don't do plumbing on friday ♫" for decades! Make sure it's leak proof on thursday...It'll wait till monday...:)
or you just get the job done that you're paid to do.
Thanks for adding another item on my checklist when looking for contractors.
You do the work within the timeframe or you get sacked
If you're too lazy to get it done in time, i have zero need for you
@@TheTacticalHaggis You're too uppity..WE ARE NOT YOUR SLAVES...I'd tell you to KMA ...Your schedule isn't mine...
The operator is on point
Reminds me of an Irish joke.. back when no one was p.c.... how many Irishmen does it take to change a light bulb.... 1 to hold the bulb and 100 to turn the house. 🤣😂😁😀😎
Irish people don't have jobs
LMAO
P.oNeill isn't laughing............now a real Irish man would get that.......ya prick.
Brings back memories, I used to work for a municipality on the new construction crew when there was a main break and I was on call , I remember having to go out several times within the three years I worked there at 2,3,4 am I do not miss those days . We were usually working with 8”to 12” mains a lot of them were AC pipe
AC = Always Crumbles.
@@soloban81I’ve blown through old AC twice while vaccing, shit holds up when it’s new, but old stuff is bullshit
Lots of mental emotional and every kind of support for these guys
all kinds of support except physical 😂
One man digging, Eight men standing around.
"Laser precision boring" my foot! 😂🤣🤪👍👍
The laser must have been brought over by a Amazon warehouse employee via kicking the box to the job site.
I like how they just use the mini digger to ram the star pickets into the ground. When I was growing up, there would be at least one guy with a sledge hammer, hammering it into the ground. Later on they invented a steel piece of tubing designed specifically to hammer up and down on the star picket to ram them into the ground. Those hydraulics make a far more effective ram than the effort a heavily built worker can muster.😁👍👍
A good day's work! 👍
I just had the same problem only difference was they drilled through a main sewer line. And of course the one call markings wasn’t even close to the line
Utility installers? I went to check out a blockage in a concrete pipe culvert. When I looked in the pipe there was a gas line running though it that the gas company either horizontal drilled or vibra plowed through the pipe.
happens alot usally cant even feel it, depends on what your runnning, you might
Great work,thought they were looking for a bigger pipe
Guy uses the sewer camera without gloves. what a beast
Lol
I never wanted to shake hands with the sewer guy's. lol
5:28 I make those utility maps for a living and I hate when our locators only use my maps instead of finding the pipes.
Our maps have all kinds of room for errors and are only supposed to be used to get an idea of what's what. Nothing GIS does can replace real world obsevations.
As utility Locator I totally agree with you . Locators need understand maps are just to show you a general idea of where the lines could be trench not always 100% accurate .
Loved the video. I smashed that like button
You poor thing
Why dig whit a tooth bucket? Always when we looking for something we dont. Want to destoy we use a bucket whitout tooth, you get so much more controll of what tou doing then, but i see, we worl alot different here in sweden😅
Wow you guys get a backhoe. I have seen three breaks on our street (idiots used galvanized connectors in the 60's), all the city workers had were shovels, poor saps.
Maps never wrong, lol, famous last words....Speaking of maps "never" being wrong, y'all should come out to Oklahoma, I'll show ya where towns have lines going all over the place per the maps and where they "actually" are....
Working for BU&U (they don't like it when you use the actual name so go back one letter to figure it out) I stress to individuals how important it is to locate cable, phone, sewer, natural gas, electric and water lines, sucks when you get people that don't and then cause major issues like we had 6 years ago, major fiber line cut and took out Northern Texas and Southern Oklahoma for 10 hours, that company got fined by the FCC for over 8 million, took out 39 911 call centers and left a million customers out of service, so yeah, it's a big deal....
Ugh, gosh darn BU&U! They're as bad as Dpndbtu!
Ugh, gosh darn BU&U! They're as bad as Dpndbtu!
@@miraak542 took me a second to get that but yeah they're literally the devil of communications hahahah! Watched my bosses go and get into several fights with them over transmission lines rights when we were out flagging trucks
I was in Oklahoma last month.. and let me tell you the guys over there don't even know where the water is.. maps all wrong.. we were digging and we saved the water more then 3 times. And gas also...
6 guys watching one guy work a machine and another in the hole …. That’s 8 full days pay for one water line 🤣
About 15 year ago, they were putting in a new sewer line that was to run through the backyards of the houses on my street. When they were digging the initial trench for the sewer access point, they hit a 2" water line that was not on the city maps.
They all bailed out, except for one guy who was having trouble climbing out. No one would help him as the trench quickly filled up. So I rushed forward and hauled him out. And then turned and started cussing at all the other workers who left him there.
They had to cut the water to my street and the next street over so that they could pump the trench and do the repair.
They did find an older map that did have the line on it, but it was not on the new map. So knowing this, they went forward, albeit a bit more carefully and put in the sewer line.
But you have to think. Someone, somewhere fucked up.
Man, I bet that sucked. And to know your working with people that just bail on ya. Not good for a guy in the hole!
@@TimMcArdle the guy in the hole left construction and became a paramedic. I still see him occasionally around town. He always smiles and waves. Sometimes a simple act can leave a lasting impression.
Post more main break repairs i enjoy watching this shit man !
Same here
I thought this was the government at work for sec. 1 worker 7 supervisors.🤣🤣
These guys are Zen masters at finding leaks and repairing them...
Why is a pressure water line PVC? I thought they were cast iron or copper?
at&t boys gotta love em.... oh hell snow fence i was just kidding about the mailbox....
I hope a year later they’re abit smarter now, locate and slot all services via hydro vac or digger before any drilling attempt
We dealt with this for 2 years straight but we do both water and sewer and I swear they wouldn’t start working until time for us to get off we had so much overtime
Tim do y'all charge the boring company when they hit one of your lines ?
Depends if our line is marked correctly I believe. This was marked way off even thought they would have still hit it regardless.
Was this TDS or another tv/internet provider? TDS came through our neighborhood to install fiber and destroyed everything along the way.
If I remember right, it was contractors for consolidated communications.
That drill companies a joke that's why you always gotta spot utilities before drilling around them
Is this florida? Them boys sound familiar
The cable company came through our town and there wasn’t any point in call before you dig . They hit everything. As far as the smart asses that complain about how many people are there. When you don’t know what you are up against and you have rate payers without water , you send everyone. 20 years on the job speaking from experience .
Everyone for a little water leak, I don’t know I usually fix them alone. With a crew of 2 guys we do it all day long! There isn’t enough space in the hole for more then 2!
And surprise, it was only 2 guys who did the work because it’s a 2 man job.
I bet that clamp cost hundreds of dollars. You would have saved money using flex seal tape.
I have drilled for many yrs. Wth would they be that damn deep without spotting the water. Unbelievable
Well, the mark for water wasn't even close... maybe the spotted around where the mark was, never found it, and thought they were good to go at that depth.
We drilled 8 feet away from what was marked and still hit the main water line. Not only was it NOT our fault, the company responsible for marking had to pay the damages along with a $15,000 fine. Also I can drill into an 8" hole at any depth no problem
It looks like mark out was off more than 2 feet what was the outcome boring company have to pay or they got lucky with a miss mark
They didn't get billed because our mark was so far off.
this is why i prefer open trench installation ,you will actually know what's down there,and rectify a mess whan it arises... as for the directional drilling you might hit stuff that you are not aware of and cause alot of avoidable
And when you do, you end up having to open a hole up anyway (and in a hurry).
@@PRC533 quick joke..I never laughed at any joke from a friend working for ditch witch..you know why? because most of the time, he was boring
AT&T installed fiber in my neighborhood not too long ago. They bored mostly everything and used that same orange conduit.
When we had it installed in our house, I helped the installer run fiber through it and it went across the street and 2-3 houses down to the next box. I thought it was pretty cool.
Before they started boring though they had flags everywhere and spray paint all on the road.
Now that I'm typing this, I just remembered there were a few city trucks tearing up the road down the street not too long after they did it. I wonder if that was just a coincidence now or if something got screwed up lol.
According to 811 where utility is marked plus or minus 2 ft from either side. So it is correctly marked.
18 inches (pretty much 2 ft) from either side of a markout. But a lot of contractors ignore that and will literally drop a bucket on the very edge of the paint line. As a result a lot of locators mark way wider, meaning you get a less accurate markout. Haha it's an endless loop.
Idk, that looked like two bucket widths to me, which would make it about 4 feet off. Now it is pvc, which would make it a bit harder to locate.
@@johngarvey5397 it varies from state to state some are 12" some are 36"
Suppose to hand dig around all utilities lol ya right
You must work for a marking company. That is not even close to 2 ft away.
Cable company up where I work went across the street and straight through a huge culvert on the other side of the road. Positivity, some flooding and stick-to-it-iv-ness ensued. I.e., they fled and we fixed the problem for them.
It’s soo weird seeing how shallow your mains and services are. 7ft minimum of cover here in Minnesota to stay below frost line.
I really feel for guys up north! I've watched work done up north there and man, you guys earn your money on those! We average around 3 to 4 ft here. We've dug some old services that where barely 2 ft under roads.
3 ft min. Here in florida.
And any boring is supposed to be 16 inch separation between pipes.
Gotta love those boring guys.
Good repair !
Definitely call this the pockets crew. Lol
Lol
Derek is a good worker, the kind that every contractor looks for.
He's like a machine!
Do you guys use vac trucks to dig?
Not generally. Sewer dept has 2 trucks and we have a vac trailer but we generally don't have much in our way so we can use the mini.
What do you torque the bolts too I've always wondered 50lbs 🤔 loves the vibes keep making more videos/daily long videos bro ty have a good weekend
I believe it's about 80ft lbs give or take.
A boring company hit your pipe, not THE boring company... noted XD
ONE man using a shovel and 5 men watching him oh and $250,000 worth of equipment. Can’t figure out why my taxes are so high.
I mean I watch a lot of your Videos!! And yes you guys do good work no doubt!! But being in this trade as well for 20 plus ….
And being a boss for the last 12 years I just find it it strange how none of your guys ever have on hard hats etc…….. JS you guys do you I get it!! And you can run crews how ever you feel!! Just to me un professional!!!!! I mean yea you have to get in and get the work done ✅ FS!!! And yes you guys do ,,, do good work… just hope no one ever gets hurt !!!! Keep up the good work!!!!👍🏻…..
Funny how everyone talks about the crowd standing around one guy digging... I get it though. Usually there's one company responsible for digging up the pipe and fixing it, they'll have a crew of 3 or 4 and there's really only room for one in the hole. Then you might have a superintendent on the site, if they hit something he'll be there for sure, and if they have a safety guy him too, and if there's electric lines in the area you might have electricians out there too in case they're needed, and of course if it's city you also have city guys waiting to be helpful. It's a really frustrating situation, but it does make it better when everybody that might be needed is right there and ready to jump in if needed.
We're used to it. Lol we actually only had 3 on our crew at this time and our crew leader was there making 4. Everyone else was either an employee for the fiber company or from some other dept. Had some curious citizens as well.
Usually you have someone on spot to, just looking out for hazards. Helpful to have someone to head off the questions from bystanders or neighbors who insist that it's taking too long. No, taking too long is when you tear out a length of people because you were rushing.
There has to be someone on the fiber crew to overlook to make sure the process is done to spec. Correct depth, length of cable coming out of the conduit etc. People don't know unless they work it. City crews is a different story, they all watch one guy work lol
Some years ago I was working at a several hundred million dollar resort and since the Director of Engineering and his assistant were out of town so I had the football and it started ringing at 7:30 and there was panic because half of the resort was without power and we had a few big functions scheduled so I calmly drove the 30 minutes to the resort, going over in my head possible scenarios. I pulled into the parking lot and saw a bunch of people screaming and yelling (mostly directed to the two on sift maintenance guys who didn't know squat about squat) and a dude sitting on a backhoe with this head in his hands as his foreman was tearing into him. I walked over and looked in the hole and I knew exactly what happened. I told the backhoe operator that it wasn't his fault and his foreman was ready to light into me and I think he realized that that would not be a smart thing to do. I asked the backhoe operator if he wanted a cup of coffee as I had to go into the shop and dig out the "AS BUILTS", grab 2 cups of coffee and a tape measure. So I rounded everything up and went back up and handed the dude his cup of coffee and his super was fit to be tied. I told him that even before I started measuring off buried cable, he needed to calm down. We had to wait for the power company to respond anyway before anything else could be taken care of. I then took the :AS BUILTS" and laid them on the hood of my car. By now my General Manager (who was not a nice person on the best of days came over and he literally had steam coming out of his ears and before he could say anything, I asked him to go back to his office, that I had the situation under control. I know he wanted to fire me on the spot, but thought better of it, because I was the only person in town that weekend that knew how things worked. So, he stormed off biting everyone's head off. I looked at the "AS BUILTS", figured out where the drawing showed where the lines were SUPPOSED to be and got out my measuring tape and made a big fuss over markers and reference points and walked over to where the utilities were marked on the pavement. The "AS BUILTS" were a good TEN FEET OFF and the contractor went by THOSE plans, not knowing they were way off and the poor backhoe operator was merely following the markings and the poor guy yanked out a 20,000 volt cable, resulting in a back feed that took out the two other large transformers next to it. The fuses blew but not before back feeding into my VFD's for the pumps and cooling towers (happy to say the chillers had great protection) I told the super that he needed to APOLOGIZE to the backhoe operator and if he didn't I would have him removed from the property. I then remarked the lines on the driveway and made sure they understood EXACTLY where things were. The power company arrived and got the line patched up and we were back in business. I then had to rig around the VFD's to get the chillers back up and running. I then had to call all over the place to find a supplier and contractor who had the parts and a technician to change them out (THAT was way above my pay grade) and he finished up late Sunday afternoon. It was NOT a cheap repair, but I had no choice. That'll teach them to go away for a weekend and leave ME (who wasn't officially a "supervisor") in charge.
Moral of the story: DOUBLE AND TRIPLE CHECK THE DRAWINGS.
Wont that clamp eventually rust?
Theoretically no, it's all stainless. I have seen pics of some that were in corrosive souls that corrode somehow but we've never had a problem here.
We use to do that with one man on the backhoe, one in the hole, and one to get parts up and hand to the man in the hole, and larger mains than that tiny pipe!
We have 3 on our crew and one supervisor was there that day. The rest of the audience is the contractors that hit our line.
Heck I had done some main leaks by my self in black top and just a shovel and jackhammer, most the time was 2 guy's and when I transferred to a area that was rocky we had a hoe then but most of the time still 2 guy's and on a good day 3. Private water company.
These are the kind of jobs, folks, kind of like roadwork, where you will "stand around" for a portion of the job. And then work like crazy during the parts where everyone on the crew is called for and needed. If all you see is guys "standing around," you're not seeing everything (because of the camera shots) or paying attention.
Me? I'm wondering why there was no shoring put in when they got near and past the 5' mark.
Plus you never know when $hit will happen and you need everyone, plus you take turns in the hole.
yeah it's because majority of the people making these comments never worked a day in their lives in a job like this..sure for an outsider it seems like waste, but it's not.
Looked small for a main what was that 4 or 6 inch
That was 6". We still have alot of 4" iron in town as well.
@@TimMcArdle where y’all out of?
Central Illinois, just south of Springfield.
7 standing watching and one digging 😂😂😂 just like Arizona department of transportation 😂😂😂😂
I've tried to get 4 or 5 of us in that mini but I'm just too fat.
Where is the leaking water?
New Excavation Commercial/residential, small city right next to a full apt building. Tie backs bored in to help hold wall before concrete. Tie backs are bored in at necessary levels hold wall. Large bore for a cable and bore oversizes at the end and all is filled mud(concrete to you nubes, different story). One tieback bore went through the neighboring arts sewer. 24hr. day job until replaced.🥴
Yeah a boarding company did the same thing here putting in a cable line that drilled right through the water main.
What is the song name around when yall started digging
I'll have to look that up. Can't remember if that's a RUclips audio one or Artlist one. I use audio from both.
@@TimMcArdle alright thank you
That track is called "Bluerise" by Oliver Michael from Artlist.
ruclips.net/video/rUrcwBKpfXw/видео.html
@@TimMcArdle thank you so much!
Ah men being men. Thank you for posting.
guy in orange shirt, blue jeans, got some cake!
All iron main in our town. Locates poor but it's better than always relying on a tracer wire. 😬
you forgot wege rods
Seems very interesting to me.
No one call in that state ?
Yes, our marks were off by about 2 ft. They would have hit it anyway because of the depth they were at though.
Where in the hell are schedule 40 pvc water mains legal?
We have a lot here in central Illinois.
I highly dislike those types of repair bands will pinch ya fingers in a heartbeat!
They will definitely do that!
Never had that in 39 years
Maps are ALWAYS off. I've done inspection of a street renovation and there were ALWAYS mistakes on the layout, plus unmapped LIVE lines, including gas lines. I've witnessed a bulldozer using it's ripper when it hit a unmapped industrial gas main. The driver simply got off the track as if he was headed to get lunch, nothing more.
Another hit a fiber optical cable that supplied the entire South Texas Region with long distance service. The cable was in the WRONG place. The surveyor ASSumed it was in the right place, marked it as-is on the ground. The contractor dug besides the site, and sliced it. The telecom, MCI at the time, had it patched in record time- 8 hours.
This is why you always call 811 before you dig to check for buried lines.
I was making $2.10 an hour when I started working for my daddy's plumbing company in the summer when I was 15 years old in 1978 and my job was digging all day with a shovel in 95 plus heat in central Louisiana but I was happy on payday after taxes I think I brought home about 65 to 70 bucks Anyway with what people get paid today to do the same thing i did you should never be seen standing around without a shovel in your hand and always be the first person to jump in the hole and start digging especially if you're boss is there or could pull up at any time
Me, who just spent a week working around/over water main and shut-offs while installing two approaches and a gravel parking pad, to
Power Pole contractor finishing up hanging a transformer on a new poil, and about to pound in a 12 foot ground rod:
“Hey, uh, you might want to move that, you’re aiming right at a 12” high-flow regional water feed…”
“Nah, fam, I’m all good, you just put your little bobcat machine away and get out of my face..”
“Your funeral…”
Me, looking down between the ramps as I’m driving up on my equipment trailer: “Oh, hey, look, a new instant lake…”
Also Me, to County officials who just spent 15 minutes driving up and down the street to find the shutoff:
“Hey, guys? You’re PARKED RIGHT OVER IT… See the nice cast iron rings and covers?”
At least we had an excavator on site yet, so we could open a hole for the county to fix the line fairly quickly. But that was a huge flood and waste of water.
I hate those types of repair bands will pinch ya finger in a heartbeat
in california this is $40 an hour work my people
Carry on digging 😆 🤣
Wow I can’t believe you don’t even have any cones out for traffic control….
The road was closed at both ends. We had one car sneak around.
Great Intro, I just subbed to yur channel
I can’t believe they barricaded the hole with orange fence. I guess they don’t have road plates or steel plates omg
Looks like city/county workers one worker and the rest only watch lol. Maybe they need more workers
It's when you come back on Monday and find the driver who didn't think the road closure applied to him is in the hole.
We could use some support as well
Grubb mudd
Got ya bud!
@@TimMcArdle I see u
I honestly didn't understand the comment at first! Lol. One of those days my friend!
@@TimMcArdle u gota be very careful.how u ask, because youtube is smart and will delete it. thanks though 4 real. I got u from here on though. u will see me in the comment section and a thumbs yup for sure
man the day your boomed up and tag a power line. cause them strong boys dont want to carry a 2" pump 10 foot
if that was anglian water in the uk they would have closed the road for a week after putting traffic lights up then disappeared for days before doing any work
Video takes too long to get going... Gave up on it.
1ST the ground moves, built a fence 2o years ago with a Lazor now some have moved over 4ins! (posts)
I thought this meant boring company as the literal Boring Company
0:57 Motorola radio lol?
9 guys to stand around watching.
Big job broke out,
How many people to look into a hole? 🕳
Exactly like the local council before privatisation lol...
🤪🤣👍
We had 3 and a supervisor. The rest of the audience was the contractors that hit the line. And the few usual curious neighbors.
who's the person that marked that in the frist place, wrong come on!
Dont have clamps but lets continue 😂
at least needs some plywood to cover that huge hole
Why you gotta slam the bucket down man 😂 no wonder why that machine has so much slop
That poor thing is a '95 with almost 5000 hours. It had that much slop when I started 11 years ago and hasn't gotten any worse. Pump her full of grease and she's loyal. I very seldom hammer a bucket on the ground.
Why do they send 7 guys, and only 1 does the work. Due to budget cutbacks, the guy with the shovel gets fired.
maps can and will be wrong never depend on the map solely. seen too many lines hit that way
Your absolutely right! It's kind of an inside joke we always say to each other because we always hear "that's not what the map says!" Lol
7 guys supervising .. 1 in the hole and one in the mini
his right map is never wrong it’s the person reading the map
Better than an exciting company hitting your line I guess..