@@daves_not_here_mannn Well, "Lifter Thrusters" I've heard from a guy here at YT years ago and "Chrome Sparks" is a translation from my native language. Both are automotive jokes, fam.
Lonely man Not anymore WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVIL? I’d bet you the mechanic would be laughing their ass of and then even ask for an autograph! I know I would!
@@zacatecano1986 It wouldn't start because the spring would absorb the energy instead of transferring it to the crankshaft, then the piston would slam down into the crank, breaking who knows what. So, it might fire once, then disintegrate, as we saw.
The fire should've made the pistons bounce maybe the springs were a little tight or short cause remember the rod is stiff so it's staying at that exact spot for the spark/gas can explode
There's a few of these I would have rolled my eyes at... This is one of them. Some of the experiments are really good, others should have been laughed right off the screen
@inc.opt.63The compression ratio of an engine is the ratio between a given volume of a fuel-air mixture before compression and the volume during full compression. They can range anywhere between 8:1 to 12:1; diesels can have up to 25:1. The engine in this video has a bad compression ratio (or perhaps little compression at all) because the springs flexed and bended.
@@BionicleFanatic100 not 100% true. You can have engines with higher than 12-1 compression, but can't use pump gas and have to use higher octane race gas (around 110 octane compared to premium pump gas which is 93 octane) as octane is the rating for resistance to detonation and you could run low octane gas but you'd fuck up your motor. That's why racers convert cars to run on E85 instead of normal pump gas because E85 is around 110 octane but is hard to find and you need expensive E85 fuel lines, fuel pressure regulators, and carburators/fuel injectors meant specifically for E85.
I'm, an old man, that rebuilt many engines in my youth(1960s) big block stuff, and antique cars. BUT, I've never seen anything like this. Springs in place of piston rods. Man, you guys will try anything.
Concrete not good with heat. I will say high heat ceramic with intense nano tech luberication,. is future if engines want to survive. Lithium battery replacement will be a killer for EV v mark my words....eh. Soon.
Guys I know what you can do next. Make z-dampers! They were outlawed in F1 racing but they are pretty simple and I know you guys could make them. It's basically a shock absorber but instead of a pressurized tube it's a giant screw that has a weight threaded onto it. So the faster the shock compresses the faster the screw spins up the heavy weight. This way the car is unrestricted by the device at slow speeds like going over big humps in the road, but at fast speeds like when you are racing it's very hard to spin up the large weight quickly so it acts as stiff resistance. It's such a cool device not only because it works so well and was banned from F1, but also because there is an electrical engineering formula that uses resistors, capacitors, and inductors or something like that and if you apply the same formula to car suspension the z-damper completes the missing 3rd piece from the formula. Because springs are like capacitors, the more energy you put in them the more they store. Shocks are like resistors because they resist change in motion in both directions. And z-dampers are like inductors. They fill a missing piece to a puzzle to make it fully solved. You wouldn't believe how good cars handle with the z-damper along with shocks and springs, there are videos of the F1 car that had it before it was banned and it goes over bumps and turns and the car stays perfectly level and flat.
@@billbergen9169 One of the reasons are g-forces experienced by drivers. A car that can go around a corner faster than what the driver can handle is a serious threat to the safety during a race.
You have to give these guys a lot of credit. A lot of work went into satisfying their curiosity. Very entertaining although I think the result was predictable.
My first thought was it's going to throw the timing way off! But something tells me the springs aren't overcoming the compression peak in the cylinders.
My guess is part of the problem is the springs allow the crankshaft and piston to get out of phase which fsked the timing. Much stiffer springs might kind of work if the weld problem and horizontal flexing problem could be solved. It would be interesting if it worked because it might have increased the engine's tolerance for fuel detonation so compression could be increased or crappy fuel used. Not that I have any idea of what I'm talking about or anything.
How cool would it be to work doing stuff like this! I wouldn't ever dread going to work. These guys should be very grateful for what they have. They get to do mad scientist mechanics all day everyday. So freaking cool
@Eddie Hitler In addition, when the conrod compresses, it is not compressing the A/F mixture. It would lead to knock, pistons touching the valves... a total mess.
If I knew enough Russian or Ukrainian to get around on my own I’d love to play in this shop with their crazy ideas. 😂 Funny the word “ain’t” is in their vocabulary words.
Am I seriously the only one who caught that lol I guess nobody else knows how to replace there muffler bearings either Its OK I taught it was amusing and for every one else that has no idea what we are talking about just look up how to put winter air in your tires it will all make sense
Welding spring steel takes the temper from it. (The hardness & springiness was comprimized by the welding heat I bet). So the compression of the engine was too much for it. KILLER experiment!!!
It sounds like a cool and unique idea, I thought about it for a few minutes like maybe with this you could have a straight crankshaft since the springs would just be compressing, ditch the connecting rod bearings or not (if you used a straight crank) . But then I realized springs are really shitty in the long run and will wear out much, much faster then a solid connecting rod would. Also, this is important: Valve float is a condition where the engines rpm is too high for the springs to return properly (or the springs are worn and too weak) on the camshafts intake/exhaust valves. The same thing can happen with the springs on these pistons where they start floating and they probably would from all the power thats happening inside the cylinder. But still a cool idea. I havent watched the video yet so Im not 100% on the floating pistons idea.
You gotta put the two springs together that broke into dual helical or bi spring design and disable a cylinder or two and try again, this should work, depending where they broke at. They also gotta make a clear block for next episode.
You couldnt weld if your life depended on it. The spring is hardened steel. The piston is probably high strength low carbon steel. Those 2 would never have a good weld joint no matter what
Mechanic: Your engine is throwing a code.
Owner: Is it knock?
Mechanic: No, it's boing.
XD
Haha
Now that was quite funny 😄
😆😆
That got a chuckle out of me.
Valve spring connecting rod? There's no way this could possibly go wrong
Chainsaw drive train
due to the total lack of regular compression, not a chance!
Mekanick.
But do it for the laughs anyway. :-)
I was thinking the same thing.
Talk about a low budget variable compression engine. 😬
Blyat!
Even if the welds survived, the piston would touch the valves... ending in kaput :)
@@leoa4can engineering solution in the way of a chaine down the middle of the of the spring can be introduced
@@leoa4c yeah having a distance limiter connected between the piston and the crankshaft coupling would work.
Russian VVT-i
Chris Fix: April Fools!
Russians: No, I don't think so
hhahhhHahahahahhahahahahaahaahhahaaaha ha ahahahaha
Piston return springs
Lol
Idea loca que no funcionó.
Otras locuras podrán funcionar.
Ohhh I remember that vid
Nissan: Creates a Variable Compression Engine.
Garage 54: Hold my Mig Welder.
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I thought that was mazda?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Someone took the "Piston return springs" joke a bit too far
Piston return springs would work a whole lot better than this I feel.
Chris fix would be proud...lol
Haha, I GET this ! 😀
I also remembered Chris Fix's April fools joke straight away when I saw this one.
they just got the wrong ones dude !
Piston return springs! Now you need muffler bearings, blinker fluid, headlight fluid, and elbow grease
Throw in some soapy wooder and ur all set
Lada and Honda seem to have quite different kind of piston return springs
Don't forget the lifter thrusters and the bucket of chrome sparks.
@@RegalCobra097 whut chu talkin bout willis?
@@daves_not_here_mannn Well, "Lifter Thrusters" I've heard from a guy here at YT years ago and "Chrome Sparks" is a translation from my native language. Both are automotive jokes, fam.
Video 2:
take this to a separate mechanic and ask them to find out why your lada doesn't work and film their response
I like that idea!
That’s so evil
Lonely man Not anymore WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVIL? I’d bet you the mechanic would be laughing their ass of and then even ask for an autograph! I know I would!
Hilarious idea!
The simple fact that anyone in this world thought for even a second that it may start baffles me
We want to believe that if anyone, a Russian can do it.
I imagine that the compression ratio is highly variable.🤪
Why wouldnt it fire up ? If the height is the correct height in the pistons it should fire up in thoery
@@zacatecano1986 It wouldn't start because the spring would absorb the energy instead of transferring it to the crankshaft, then the piston would slam down into the crank, breaking who knows what. So, it might fire once, then disintegrate, as we saw.
The fire should've made the pistons bounce maybe the springs were a little tight or short cause remember the rod is stiff so it's staying at that exact spot for the spark/gas can explode
I swear, you guys come up with the best ideas ever.
These guys are low-key amazing mechanics, like yeah they try some dumb shit for fun but to get half of the shit they do working they have my respect
There's a few of these I would have rolled my eyes at... This is one of them. Some of the experiments are really good, others should have been laughed right off the screen
Garage54: Replacing piston rods with springs.
14-1 Compression ratio engine: Am I a joke to you?
That was the first thing I thought.
@inc.opt.63The compression ratio of an engine is the ratio between a given volume of a fuel-air mixture before compression and the volume during full compression. They can range anywhere between 8:1 to 12:1; diesels can have up to 25:1. The engine in this video has a bad compression ratio (or perhaps little compression at all) because the springs flexed and bended.
@@BionicleFanatic100 nevermind, the pistons keep wanting to go to TDC way after they should be
@@BionicleFanatic100 not 100% true. You can have engines with higher than 12-1 compression, but can't use pump gas and have to use higher octane race gas (around 110 octane compared to premium pump gas which is 93 octane) as octane is the rating for resistance to detonation and you could run low octane gas but you'd fuck up your motor. That's why racers convert cars to run on E85 instead of normal pump gas because E85 is around 110 octane but is hard to find and you need expensive E85 fuel lines, fuel pressure regulators, and carburators/fuel injectors meant specifically for E85.
@@moparmanicgarage I was mainly using production engines as an example, but yeah that is correct.
I'm, an old man, that rebuilt many engines in my youth(1960s) big block stuff, and antique cars. BUT, I've never seen anything like this. Springs in place of piston rods. Man, you guys will try anything.
I'm here worrying about knocking or bearing failure every time when I think I heard some noise.
These Russian bois: HAHA spring go boing boing.
Teaching kids to think outside the box... you, sir are outstanding in your field. Hats off from USA!
My cows are also out standing in their field.🐄
“That’s a fu king genius idea”
... *beep
Glue a bunch together with gflex epoxy. I bet it would work.
I can't believe RUclips let you get away with saying that 😳
beep came just in time !
@@ussdiscovery6912 Is this world not already dystopian enough for you?
He didn't say that. It was the translator's embellishment.
Springs with no dampers? Lol slap some shocks on them puppies
That would have obviously made them stronger...
Might as well go all the way!
I have a triangulated 4 link with coil springs for connecting rods
Why not a diy variable cylinder compression?
@@edwardwood6532 you might be onto something, threaded adjustable connecting rods
Oh man,, this sounds like a perfect way to kill an engine. I am going to keep watching.
I thought it sounded like a vacuum cleaner lol
The title of the video could easily be: "Old engine going through hell for 10 minutes straight"
Guy In Background: Coughs
Voice-over Guy: The Mans Got Rona
Lol
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Looked up compression testing, found this, guess this was my problem the whole time.
Let’s see an engine block made of concrete. Cast in the bearings and the sleeves
Concrete not good with heat. I will say high heat ceramic with intense nano tech luberication,. is future if engines want to survive. Lithium battery replacement will be a killer for EV v mark my words....eh. Soon.
Get a piece of billet stone and use that ?
Billet stone 😆😆
That would just be a complex bomb
Ship Engines have been succesfully cast from concrete
Their wheels are already filled with concrete. They won't make an engine out of this. They do not know how to work with concrete))
Me: imma torque everything correctly because I wanna make sure it’s all good.
Russians: EMPAKT
It's a lada, it does not care lol
Ugga duggas are the best
Danies Alex exactly, you need to torque the con rod caps to 2 Ugga duggas and the crankshaft bearing caps to 3
Honestly, for most things that aren't super critical (like inside the engine) impact guns are fine
Ollie Badstue they used it for the head bolts lol
this deserves a part 2 with a little bit more thought and you will get it going. PLEASE :)
yeah, put a telescopic guide of some kind inside the spring so it doesn't bend side-to-side, then it at least won't immediately break.
Yeah they forgot the shocks
Old engines ran on like onlu 4:1 compression ratio, I'm sure a stiff spring could achieve this..
Please try this again with a sliding guide rod! I would love to see this crazy idea run. Even if just for a moment
This is the best thing I’ve ever seen on RUclips I’m quite some time, just awesome,
Great effort giving it everything you could’ve to get it to start
The springs will compress till the valves open. and then compression will be lost.
And then the valves will hit the piston.
@@leoa4c no, it will still be as long as the original connecting rod if the travel from the compression release doesnt fling the piston upwards
@FUCKIN MINT Exactly. Imagine 120 PSI across a 12 square inch piston That's 1400 lb on that little tiny 60lb valve spring lmfao
More likely just sproing out to the side and snap off once its under compression. Predictable, but had to be done, I guess...
Rods must resist bending loads with every stroke, no it will not work.
Guys I know what you can do next. Make z-dampers! They were outlawed in F1 racing but they are pretty simple and I know you guys could make them. It's basically a shock absorber but instead of a pressurized tube it's a giant screw that has a weight threaded onto it. So the faster the shock compresses the faster the screw spins up the heavy weight. This way the car is unrestricted by the device at slow speeds like going over big humps in the road, but at fast speeds like when you are racing it's very hard to spin up the large weight quickly so it acts as stiff resistance. It's such a cool device not only because it works so well and was banned from F1, but also because there is an electrical engineering formula that uses resistors, capacitors, and inductors or something like that and if you apply the same formula to car suspension the z-damper completes the missing 3rd piece from the formula. Because springs are like capacitors, the more energy you put in them the more they store. Shocks are like resistors because they resist change in motion in both directions. And z-dampers are like inductors. They fill a missing piece to a puzzle to make it fully solved. You wouldn't believe how good cars handle with the z-damper along with shocks and springs, there are videos of the F1 car that had it before it was banned and it goes over bumps and turns and the car stays perfectly level and flat.
i'd sure like to see that
That sounds really cool I've never herd of something like that, would love to see them make it
@@danielbarrett6960 There is tons of awesome banned F1 tech. Garage 54 could do a whole series with each episode a different banned F1 technology.
@@El_Chompo But why is all that good tech banned?
@@billbergen9169 One of the reasons are g-forces experienced by drivers. A car that can go around a corner faster than what the driver can handle is a serious threat to the safety during a race.
6:10 I find it funny that he is bleeped out from the video but the translator has no problem cussing
Lol, I noticed that too.
Thats a great FU@@KING I IDEA 😂😂😂
Voiceover isn’t censored. The original video is.
@@drink15 Thats what I said lol
lmao
I appreciate all the effort guys to demonstrate the obvious outcome.
you got me at the unconnected coil wire guys..lol
This motor has a mind of its own like a completly unwilling donkey
Turn the back wheel of a lada into a stump grinder
I love Garage 54. Saves me the time and money not trying these things on my own.
Someone ten years later in a junkyard buys this car and opens it up. They would be in for a shock
😂
You have to give these guys a lot of credit. A lot of work went into satisfying their curiosity. Very entertaining although I think the result was predictable.
The beep at 6:08 was so epic late HAHAHAHAa
Yep noticed that to I was searching for comments that mentioned it
The beep was for the Russian swear, the English dub uses cutouts instead of beeps.
that is a fucking genius idea m**
😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆
Just screw it let’s just have freedom of speech with swearing Хорошо
This guy literally builts a piston recoil.
It's a meme in Finland.
Next time you should make crankcase's ceiling light.
Wouldn't blow-by be a crankcase ceiling light?
pakoputken laakerointi kannattaa myös olla kunnossa
@@allu7958 aa joo. Pakoputken paukkulaakeri :D
@@blackheavyblans nii se just
Irtokipinät on olla myös
Giving "piston return springs" a new meaning
No ladas were hurt in the making of this production. Fantastic 👍🏾
My first thought was it's going to throw the timing way off! But something tells me the springs aren't overcoming the compression peak in the cylinders.
6:10 that's so f**kin genius idea man (beep)
Garage 54: sees click bait photo and makes it true and even tests it 😂
Which is awesome by the way. I like his videos!
"that's a fkin genius idea man" biiip
😄😆😂🤣😅 LMAO
Note how the bleep only came *after* he swore.
My guess is part of the problem is the springs allow the crankshaft and piston to get out of phase which fsked the timing. Much stiffer springs might kind of work if the weld problem and horizontal flexing problem could be solved. It would be interesting if it worked because it might have increased the engine's tolerance for fuel detonation so compression could be increased or crappy fuel used. Not that I have any idea of what I'm talking about or anything.
Love the fact that these guys will try anything.
Quite possibly the finest RUclips title ever!
"piston gone sideways"
" that's a lot of damage!!!"
9:53 he is like let me see what the oil looks like : sees the oil ,oil : gray , he : oefff no good
Yep , dead giveaway.
It looked the same way when they first drained it at the beginning of the video also.
A good way to not get compression in a cylinder and a rather hard way to brake springs and a motor, I do like the effort put in, cheers, Nastarovia
How cool would it be to work doing stuff like this! I wouldn't ever dread going to work. These guys should be very grateful for what they have. They get to do mad scientist mechanics all day everyday. So freaking cool
Piston return springs be like
"Meanwhile in another cylinder the piston has turned sideways"
Epic
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
still waiting to see steering wheel one side and pedals the other, just like the cars on the dash cam videos..
“Alright something’s happening!.........Nothing’s happening” lol 😂
I was looking for that. Fk'ng love this channel.
JK4N Lol 😂
I love this channel!! The things you guys try and come up with are crazy. Much love from Pittsburgh Pa!
Such a picturesque residential neighborhood! Like London in the 1870s! But with CARS!
I mean, what did you expect? Cool experiment though You should have used much stronger springs. That might have got you somewhere
The springs were strong enough, it broke at the welds anyway
@@georgerosebush9754 actually yes and no. Yes, they broke on the welds but these springs can get compressed very easily by the explosion
@Eddie Hitler In addition, when the conrod compresses, it is not compressing the A/F mixture. It would lead to knock, pistons touching the valves... a total mess.
@Eddie Hitler piston go boing
If I knew enough Russian or Ukrainian to get around on my own I’d love to play in this shop with their crazy ideas.
😂 Funny the word “ain’t” is in their vocabulary words.
'vocabulary words' is exactly like 'VIP person'
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Install an electric motor and run it by an electric generator and see the milage
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Works for US locomotives, why not cars?
@@andie_pants not that simple.
Conservation of energy dictates that it will be considerably less efficient.
@@DOCTOROCTAGONAPUSS not necessarily, since the engine will spin at a constant rpm.
These guys will turn that Lada into a classic! The market demand will skyrocket!
good for dampening vibration and anti-seize, but less pressure on the compression stroke using a spring
Crisfix: piston return sprints!
Am I seriously the only one who caught that lol I guess nobody else knows how to replace there muffler bearings either Its OK I taught it was amusing and for every one else that has no idea what we are talking about just look up how to put winter air in your tires it will all make sense
I've seen that video lol
@@justinbush7610 At least most people have learned where the blinker fluid reservoir is
How I missed the obvious.
Kalvinjj yea exactly 😂
Hand-tightened screws on the car.
Except for the engine.
And vice versa. 😁
When he said "we've thrown in some additional load" I thought he was talking about Ivan💀😂
Welding spring steel takes the temper from it. (The hardness & springiness was comprimized by the welding heat I bet).
So the compression of the engine was too much for it.
KILLER experiment!!!
I'd like to see this redone. Please redo this with good sized springs, not those dinky things.
It sounds like a cool and unique idea, I thought about it for a few minutes like maybe with this you could have a straight crankshaft since the springs would just be compressing, ditch the connecting rod bearings or not (if you used a straight crank) . But then I realized springs are really shitty in the long run and will wear out much, much faster then a solid connecting rod would. Also, this is important: Valve float is a condition where the engines rpm is too high for the springs to return properly (or the springs are worn and too weak) on the camshafts intake/exhaust valves. The same thing can happen with the springs on these pistons where they start floating and they probably would from all the power thats happening inside the cylinder. But still a cool idea. I havent watched the video yet so Im not 100% on the floating pistons idea.
Oh, and here I thought you guys are pushing the "piston return springs" idea of ChrisFix forward.
Would be interesting to see the Garage 54's take on the Japanese bosozoku cars. Maybe make one using a Lada 👍
How to imperialize your lada
Springs in connecting rods? You guys are Crazy. Loved the video.
Really brought the piston return springs to reality
7:14 I like that New York license plate on a car in Russia.
It's imported "Lexus"
Normally is called a Toyota Celsior UCF11
Rebirth
1UZFE is the engine code for the toyota v8 in that car.
@Barhin Bhatt That's what I was thinking. Stolen From Brighton Beach Brooklyn
Lol i think its just an imported vehicle..
Who else has a feeling that one day they'll create a new invention on a car that will make them rich?
Nope
Nah, capitalism will shut them down
@@jonathanryan2915 if anything the market will reward them for they're idea if they patent it.
@@jonathanryan2915 ???
eww furries
Ah yeah, the piston return springs. I had to replace those recently.
Ivan was like what the f**k have i gotten myself into hahaha
Very stupid idea but I give you guys A for effort and ingenuity!!
Highly entertaining !!!
I love it!!
Prediction: it makes a couple of revolutions, and then you gain a new viewing window in The block
"Active variable displacement mod"
If the springs were stronger it would reduce the effective cc and might run if you had a sliding mechanism.
This guy will actually come across a useful invention one day at this rate
7:20 Oh how the neighbors must love you guys hahahaha
Maybe some much stiffer springs could possibly work?
If the springs were as stiff as a solid connecting rod... maybe.
This failed so hard, the piston is now sideways in the cylinder. That's kinda awesome.
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Love the tea cup rocking it in the scuttle
You gotta put the two springs together that broke into dual helical or bi spring design and disable a cylinder or two and try again, this should work, depending where they broke at. They also gotta make a clear block for next episode.
When your a mechanic and have Absolutely nothing to do 😂
*you’re
“From Russia with Brandi Love”
translation and voiceover by BMI Russian
Let's drink, comrades!
Trying to start the car in reverse and he says "We need to be careful" 😬.
Garage 54, you are simply the BEST !!!! 5:08 sounds like a coffee grinder 😂
Lol was hoping was gonna start nice idea lol you guys are amazing trying all these ideas
Did you see those welds! Man fire the welder hes got no business being near one
Yeah those were painful
U cant even weld a spring. It's no longer a spring at the weld
You couldnt weld if your life depended on it. The spring is hardened steel. The piston is probably high strength low carbon steel. Those 2 would never have a good weld joint no matter what
Who can't weld? Cause pistons are alum
@@dualsportrider3221 shit youre right. Totally forgot pretty much all pistons are aluminum. That wont bond for shit
5:17 new dyson commercial
"It's all looking very good"
Hahahahahaha
I love this channel. I've been watching for a while now and you never disappoint
This guy is straight out of a video game....I swear. I feel like I’m watching pre war metro survivors
engine works as a handbrake
"c'mon, start!"
xD
😂😭🤬😂😂😂😂😂
This is so dumb. I love it.
In Soviet Russia, compression compresses engine!
😂
"Soviet" Russia?!
@@r-cross it's an old joke format from...Yackov Smirnoff I believe. I'm well aware they're no longer Soviet.
@@jasepoag8930 ok ok
The nissan vc-turbos are looking great.
These men aren't a bit afraid of hard work. Sometimes it goes better than other times.