Idea for martin: -You start with 5 coins and each move you gain 1 -Each piece costs its value in coins to move -King cost 1 coin -If you capture a piece you get the pieces value in coins -If you can't afford a move you lose
Idea (not sure if balanced!) Bot of your choice Bot Have 20$ Pawn move cost 1$, Double Cost 2$ Bishop cost 1$ per square Knight cost 3$ Rook cost 2$ per square Queen cost 3$ per square King move gain 2$ Everytime you move a piece, Bot get money equal to its value (king=2$) Everytime you get checked, Bot get 3$, for Bot's King check, bot lose 1$ Everytime Your Piece is captured, Bot gain Double the Piece Value Everytime a Bot piece is captured, Bot gain half value, rounded up as money Pawn Promotion Cost 20$ (If you do it bot get the money) Goal is to either make bot bankrupt or checkmated You can change the amount for balance since I'm bad at balancing Not really sure if this is a good idea
Chess, but your army is tied together. All of your pieces/pawns must be connected through only horizontally, vertically or diagonally adjacent squares.
New challenge idea: FAMILY RIVALRY CHESS: The rules are you play against Martin, but whenever you want to capture, you have to capture that piece with whatever your taking of your own. Ex: You can only take his rooks with your rooks, or his knights with your knights. The queen is the mother of the house, so they can take knights, bishops, and opponent queens. And once your opponent only has 4 members left, you can try to checkmate his king
nice vid Nelsi! For once you finally feel how Martin feels. Anyways an idea for next challenge vs stockfish, maybe you can do one where if stockfish capture you pieces (not pawns for obvious reasons), you allow yourself to have the option to make them become a pawn instead of getting captured and then it is your turn now. The piece which stockfish use for capture will return to its previous square as if it doesnt move
Challenge: You play against Stockfish 15, but every move that you make, Stockfish can no longer use a square on the board that is selected randomly. If a piece is on that tile, the piece is removed. If a king is on the square that is supposed to be removed for Stockfish, then nothing happens. Choose the top engine move that doesn't violate the rules. (you can still step on squares that stockfish can't) Also, Stockfish can't move a piece over the gap, except the knight.
A challenge I have for you stockfish vs you but stockfish have 215 $ in hic bank and you have 400 $ in your bank here are the cost of moving Pawn-1$ Knight/bishop-3 Rook-5$ Queen-9$ En passent-1$ Cattle-0$ King-0$ Pawn promotion-1$ Play as white
17:24 if pawn takes the Bishop Qh2+ and King only move is to f3 and Nd2 is checkmate.... I just said this so all of you know. I'm watching 17:24 right now so I don't know if Stockfish found that
Martin challenge idea The Compass Challenge First move - North : A move that would move a piece up Second move - East : A move that would move a piece left Third move - South : A move that would move a piece down Fourth move - West : A move that would move a piece right
This game just gave me an idea of a 'gambling' match. -You don't have to stay positive, only have to end positive. -Whatever move they make gives you money relative to the value of the piece: Pawns are $1, Knights/Bishops are $3, Rooks are $5, Queens are $9, Forced King moves are $0, but other king moves are $3.5. -You can only win if you can checkmate with a positive balance. -It's a draw if you get checkmated and they have negative money. -Capturing a piece or pawn gives you the 2x the value of the piece, and losing a piece or pawn costs you 2x the value of the piece.
a few years ago I played stockfish on it's highest level, over and over again. Each time looking at the analysis after to see where was my first mistake, and what I should have played. As black I did eventually find a drawing line with the Caro Khan.(I can't do it now, because a) I've forgotten the lines b) Stockfish has also adapted. (In fact I did beat it in ultra at the time, but only on time, ... because I could premove a lot of the lines, and then very occasionally I would survive enough moves for it to flag).
Well... I play Komodo3200 (it's not SF) a lot with white and there are forced mates in around 25-30 moves from few openings. I have memorized couple. Caro with white is actually the easiest opening to win against it. There are multiple winning lines there straight from the opening. And today after half a year of periodic searching with SF and many attempts I finally beat it with rook odds... for Komodo :D Obviously in Caro. Sky is the limit bro. If you want I can send you some winning lines with white in Caro. Once you get a massive advantage in the opening you should be able to beat it.
nice @@crystallized1676... well done on beating it, ...even with the rook odds, still not easy. I am RubbleChess on lichess. I haven't got Komodo though.
@@richardfredlund8846 Dude you missunderstood (and I'm not suprised). Not I had an extra rook but Komodo ^^ World's first :p Took A LOT of effort :D Will send you some lines tomorrow. It's very late in my place.
@@richardfredlund8846 Sort of "don't try this at home" :p Close to impossible but with very heavy SF prep (it can't do it on its own btw. - I only have seen very few draws), some luck and knowing well Komodos behaviours still possible. Funniest thing is it involved giving away second rook (-13 in material at some point) xd I have sent you some lines on lichess. Obviously there are different 5 moves for Komodo but all besides 1 in 50% cases lead to large advantage for white before move 15-20. Just too much typing. You can try figuring it by yourself or can ask about sth concrete later :)
You don't need "think" :P It is. Little bit embarassing for Nelson. Also people these days are trying to figure out how to mate that thing below 30 moves not how not get mated below 40 :p It shows how far behind Nelson is due to making content with Martin all day long. Once he gets to the high elo (he should be there but he isn't) playground he doesn't even know absolute basics.
@@sujalmaharjan7563 Yeah but Nelsi is 2450. Expectations are much higher. For you knowing already that it is Komodo is somewhat big. Nelsi should be able to beat it (or at least draw) fairly as white with prep. Such odds challenge is much below his paygrade and takes most of the fun.
Chess but you have to gather and use resources to use your pieces. Everytime you move a pawn you gain 1 point Everytime you take an enemy piece you gain 2 points Everytime you lose a piece you lose 2 points. Every time you check the opponent you gain 3 points Points to move: pawn: 0 points Knights: 1 Bishops: 2 Rooks: 3 Queen: 4
i really like this concept. i wonder how hard it would be for stockfish to adjust its strategy if it was able to be programmed with these limitations in place. i assume it would essentially need to be entirely retrained, which is unfortuante but hey. still interesting.
I would suggest a rule tweak that "Stockfish has a debit card, so it can't have overdraw." Remove pieces from play as Stockfish loses the ability to move them. Might have to adjust how much "cash" the bot starts with/cost of moving each piece to make it work, but it should be winnable!
Hi Nelson, this is out of topic but there's a guy who's misbehaving in your discord server; spamming links to supposedly NSFW servers (though it's possible that it could be way worse than that; of course I didn't click the link. However, someone accidentally might, and it doesn't seem like any mods are active for a while now; can you look into this?
Maybe give Stockfish 1000 dollars but with every move, he also loses as many coins as big as his advantage? If he has a checkmate you multiply the piece value by 3.
Stockfish wloud have winnif it knew the chalenge cuz while it was at 20 after your move p e3 it pushes g pawn 2 swuares you have to take enpasant and after pawn Takes back you cant stop Mate and its 3 pawn moves so it wins by 17$
a norwegian and an italian developer did the original coding that would later evolve into stockfish 1.0, the name is a tribute to them, Norway and Italy have historically traded fish since the viking age, "stockfish" is actually the name of Norway's oldest export commodity, the fish is tried outside by cold ocean winds, quality stockfish taste good and lasts a long time making it a good trading commodity
Stockfish has a debt now. It has to go to jail because it has no money at all.
@Oogabooga123 and a hacker
he is gonna go to county jail and escape from martin in a old video
Oh well this is not monopoly
@Oogabooga123 - he only knows one "book" and needs to absorb a few more
I like the Idea that Max level Stock fish is basically "Survival Mode"
Objective: Survive
Serious chess is basically survival
No, it's survive as long as possible mode 😂
Idea for martin:
-You start with 5 coins and each move you gain 1
-Each piece costs its value in coins to move
-King cost 1 coin
-If you capture a piece you get the pieces value in coins
-If you can't afford a move you lose
You are watching Chess Simp😀
If you can salvage your opponent's pieces, then I think you should only gain 1 coin per move.
what about castling tho?
@@enzgaming_123 thats a king move
Thats from a chess simp video
Nelson celebrating as the "you lose" screen shows up 🤣🤣🤣
Losing by -$1 on the final move is brilliant. What great timing!
Lmao this was great. Losing by 14 points and going "Yes! YES! WE ARE WINNING" 😂
That was an intense game! Well played Nelson!
This is just like in real life! Queens cost a lot of damn money
lmaooo
Stockfish may have won the war, but its kingdom's economy is now in ruins.
actual title: stock fish goes broke to
beat me
I gave stockfish $1 and I BEAT STOCKFISH
Hey Nelson! Watching you for a long time now and just wanted to say how happy I am your videos are doing better and better 🙂 You deserve it mate!
Variation: Stockfish has $200 and if it runs out it switches to Martin, then you see if you can win.
Idea (not sure if balanced!)
Bot of your choice
Bot Have 20$
Pawn move cost 1$, Double Cost 2$
Bishop cost 1$ per square
Knight cost 3$
Rook cost 2$ per square
Queen cost 3$ per square
King move gain 2$
Everytime you move a piece, Bot get money equal to its value (king=2$)
Everytime you get checked, Bot get 3$, for Bot's King check, bot lose 1$
Everytime Your Piece is captured, Bot gain Double the Piece Value
Everytime a Bot piece is captured, Bot gain half value, rounded up as money
Pawn Promotion Cost 20$ (If you do it bot get the money)
Goal is to either make bot bankrupt or checkmated
You can change the amount for balance since I'm bad at balancing
Not really sure if this is a good idea
Maybe switching the Role and you're the one dealing with money
Chess, but your army is tied together. All of your pieces/pawns must be connected through only horizontally, vertically or diagonally adjacent squares.
Rule change: if it captures a piece, it gets money back
Wow, flawlessly calculated. Get WRECKED, machine!
What an amazing video, full intense at the end and just for one dollar, stockfish couldn't win!
this payment option would be a great idea for lower players to play against you, Nelson :))
-1$ is too good to be true
it is komodo because he has 3200 rating and stockfish 16 is 3600
New challenge idea: FAMILY RIVALRY CHESS: The rules are you play against Martin, but whenever you want to capture, you have to capture that piece with whatever your taking of your own. Ex: You can only take his rooks with your rooks, or his knights with your knights. The queen is the mother of the house, so they can take knights, bishops, and opponent queens. And once your opponent only has 4 members left, you can try to checkmate his king
nice vid Nelsi! For once you finally feel how Martin feels. Anyways an idea for next challenge vs stockfish, maybe you can do one where if stockfish capture you pieces (not pawns for obvious reasons), you allow yourself to have the option to make them become a pawn instead of getting captured and then it is your turn now. The piece which stockfish use for capture will return to its previous square as if it doesnt move
@@lantern108 lantern?
Challenge:
You play against Stockfish 15, but every move that you make, Stockfish can no longer use a square on the board that is selected randomly. If a piece is on that tile, the piece is removed. If a king is on the square that is supposed to be removed for Stockfish, then nothing happens. Choose the top engine move that doesn't violate the rules. (you can still step on squares that stockfish can't) Also, Stockfish can't move a piece over the gap, except the knight.
you can do it again and try to beat your own record: you made stockfish use 201 dollars, see if you can do better.
no lantern? the second one..
@@lantern108 what do you mean?
I don't think I've ever seen Nelson so excited about losing a game against Stockfish!
A challenge I have for you stockfish vs you but stockfish have 215 $ in hic bank and you have 400 $ in your bank
here are the cost of moving
Pawn-1$
Knight/bishop-3
Rook-5$
Queen-9$
En passent-1$
Cattle-0$
King-0$
Pawn promotion-1$
Play as white
You're videos are great Nelson!❤
can you make everytime he moves, his elo decrease by the points of the pieces?
Still 3000 elo at the end 😂
*7
@@Gingnose but it's move maybe more stupid
@@Gingnose😂😂😂😂
"Stockfish is gonna lose this game" - Nelson down 14 points
17:24 if pawn takes the Bishop Qh2+ and King only move is to f3 and Nd2 is checkmate.... I just said this so all of you know. I'm watching 17:24 right now so I don't know if Stockfish found that
That was more fun than it should've been
This was amazing to watch. And the end was glorious
no lantern? the second one..
Awesome idea Nelson!
Martin challenge idea
The Compass Challenge
First move - North : A move that would move a piece up
Second move - East : A move that would move a piece left
Third move - South : A move that would move a piece down
Fourth move - West : A move that would move a piece right
that's not Stockfish, that's Komodo.
@15:00 M5 going to M4 and then M3 after single moves is expected?
"That's nine dollars right there buddy.." 🤣
Now try this against desktop stockfish
This game just gave me an idea of a 'gambling' match.
-You don't have to stay positive, only have to end positive.
-Whatever move they make gives you money relative to the value of the piece: Pawns are $1, Knights/Bishops are $3, Rooks are $5, Queens are $9, Forced King moves are $0, but other king moves are $3.5.
-You can only win if you can checkmate with a positive balance.
-It's a draw if you get checkmated and they have negative money.
-Capturing a piece or pawn gives you the 2x the value of the piece, and losing a piece or pawn costs you 2x the value of the piece.
Wouldn’t castling be 5 because you move the rook
Now try this but with nelson😂😂😂😂😂
Plot twist: stockfish took a loan from the bank and bet he could do it in under 250$
it is not stockfish, it is komodo
If only stockfish understood the rules
“IF only STOCKFISH knew the rules”said Nelson as he played
Interesting idea against the computer.
You could have charged Stockfish $5 for castling as the rook was moved...
Stockfish had to move the R castle so that should have been -5
Stockfish seems almost inhuman.
Chess but everytime you move martin plays twice
a few years ago I played stockfish on it's highest level, over and over again. Each time looking at the analysis after to see where was my first mistake, and what I should have played. As black I did eventually find a drawing line with the Caro Khan.(I can't do it now, because a) I've forgotten the lines b) Stockfish has also adapted. (In fact I did beat it in ultra at the time, but only on time, ... because I could premove a lot of the lines, and then very occasionally I would survive enough moves for it to flag).
Well... I play Komodo3200 (it's not SF) a lot with white and there are forced mates in around 25-30 moves from few openings. I have memorized couple. Caro with white is actually the easiest opening to win against it. There are multiple winning lines there straight from the opening. And today after half a year of periodic searching with SF and many attempts I finally beat it with rook odds... for Komodo :D Obviously in Caro. Sky is the limit bro.
If you want I can send you some winning lines with white in Caro. Once you get a massive advantage in the opening you should be able to beat it.
nice @@crystallized1676... well done on beating it, ...even with the rook odds, still not easy. I am RubbleChess on lichess. I haven't got Komodo though.
@@richardfredlund8846 Dude you missunderstood (and I'm not suprised). Not I had an extra rook but Komodo ^^ World's first :p Took A LOT of effort :D
Will send you some lines tomorrow. It's very late in my place.
@@crystallized1676 you gave Komodo rook odds and won ??? ...wow ... np... laters
@@richardfredlund8846 Sort of "don't try this at home" :p Close to impossible but with very heavy SF prep (it can't do it on its own btw. - I only have seen very few draws), some luck and knowing well Komodos behaviours still possible. Funniest thing is it involved giving away second rook (-13 in material at some point) xd I have sent you some lines on lichess. Obviously there are different 5 moves for Komodo but all besides 1 in 50% cases lead to large advantage for white before move 15-20. Just too much typing. You can try figuring it by yourself or can ask about sth concrete later :)
Promoted pawn is 1 $ no 🤷♂️
you should have hired someone to program this for you
I think that 3200 engine is actually komodo not stockfish.
You don't need "think" :P It is. Little bit embarassing for Nelson. Also people these days are trying to figure out how to mate that thing below 30 moves not how not get mated below 40 :p
It shows how far behind Nelson is due to making content with Martin all day long. Once he gets to the high elo (he should be there but he isn't) playground he doesn't even know absolute basics.
@@crystallized1676 I also don't know all the basics...I am just 1100.
@@sujalmaharjan7563 Yeah but Nelsi is 2450. Expectations are much higher. For you knowing already that it is Komodo is somewhat big. Nelsi should be able to beat it (or at least draw) fairly as white with prep. Such odds challenge is much below his paygrade and takes most of the fun.
that is komodo 25
I laugh continuously when he said we beat stock fish😂😂lol
it’s like alien isolation just survive 😂
Making stockfish have debt to a bank and go to prison wow
Am I missing something or is chess vibes intentionally calling maximum as stockfish
Chess but you have to gather and use resources to use your pieces.
Everytime you move a pawn you gain 1 point
Everytime you take an enemy piece you gain 2 points
Everytime you lose a piece you lose 2 points.
Every time you check the opponent you gain 3 points
Points to move:
pawn: 0 points
Knights: 1
Bishops: 2
Rooks: 3
Queen: 4
A good idea is doing the same but you play martin and You have to pay
i really like this concept. i wonder how hard it would be for stockfish to adjust its strategy if it was able to be programmed with these limitations in place. i assume it would essentially need to be entirely retrained, which is unfortuante but hey. still interesting.
I would suggest a rule tweak that "Stockfish has a debit card, so it can't have overdraw." Remove pieces from play as Stockfish loses the ability to move them.
Might have to adjust how much "cash" the bot starts with/cost of moving each piece to make it work, but it should be winnable!
That’s Komodo engine
it is wrong because the queen's worth = a pawn
Chess Vibes love love your awesome videos, what a cool/awesome video it is, mate.
this was a great idea very entertaining to watch ty chess vibes for the great content
That's not a win, that's a draw. If they mate you and run out of money same time it's even.
The final queen move was illegal, as they couldn't afford it
No, stockfish could not make the move. It spends the money first, then makes the move.
bro stockfish ain stocking
queen trade was a mistake
Hi Nelson, this is out of topic but there's a guy who's misbehaving in your discord server; spamming links to supposedly NSFW servers (though it's possible that it could be way worse than that; of course I didn't click the link. However, someone accidentally might, and it doesn't seem like any mods are active for a while now; can you look into this?
Where do I find his discord
@@FasterBueno the link is there in some of his older videos
Damn didn't think it would end that close, very nice!
Draw by bankrupt vs checkmate
I think pawn>king now that I see the points 🤨
And you won at the skin of your teeth! Nice.
the pawn moves really counted
Ooh because they are worth that material
Isn't maximum elo komodo25 instead of stockfish? Just wondering because im a bit confused
Yes, it is Komodo
So what does castling cost
But this is Komodo Dragon...
Maybe give Stockfish 1000 dollars but with every move, he also loses as many coins as big as his advantage? If he has a checkmate you multiply the piece value by 3.
Chess but owned by EA be like:
GG
crazy content idea tho, well done!
Click! don't drag!
Great video, and I noticed the phone, OnePlus gang hahahah
Bro your videos are really fun..
Stockfish wloud have winnif it knew the chalenge cuz while it was at 20 after your move p e3 it pushes g pawn 2 swuares you have to take enpasant and after pawn Takes back you cant stop Mate and its 3 pawn moves so it wins by 17$
It is callas Komodo dragon.
Omg, he's using pay-to-win! Skill issue!!1!!111!
Just kidding, this was a cool video idea. Keep it up!
My Stockfish does that for free lol
SUPPER CONGRATS PARTNER! : )
but.................... Nelson it isn't stockfish, it's komodo 25
is en passant free?
Who else thinks, "Cost of Battle" should be a Stat tracked for games?
I love it. Invent a new game and dont tell your opponent the rules, its a win win lol.
ever wonder why its name stockfish?
a norwegian and an italian developer did the original coding that would later evolve into stockfish 1.0, the name is a tribute to them, Norway and Italy have historically traded fish since the viking age, "stockfish" is actually the name of Norway's oldest export commodity, the fish is tried outside by cold ocean winds, quality stockfish taste good and lasts a long time making it a good trading commodity
You didn't pay stockfish anything.
Thats not stockfish
Wow talk about perfectly balanced
well technically you also got checkmated so its a draw
remember kids a perfect game always ends in a draw
Stockfish should have passed go one more time rip