I have a lot to say about the 2023 Nissan Z
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Let's talk about the 2023 Nissan Z
The new Z will be priced about the same as the 350Z in 2003 and it will share the same wheelbase as the 2020 370Z.
It now has 400 hp and 350 pound-feet of torque from its twin-turbo 3.0-liter V-6 and guess what, it comes in with a six speed.
No 0-60mph numbers yet but you can be sure it will be as quick or even quicker than its main rival the Toyota Supra which does it in 3.7s and that’s even with the base Sport trim.
When the 2023 Nissan Z goes on sale next spring you’ll be able to choose between two trim levels - the Z Sport and the Z Performance.
They both have the same powertrain and both will get the full 12.3-inch customizable instrument display however the Z Performance is enhanced and upgraded where it matters - for example you get a stiffer suspension, a limited-slip differential, larger brakes and launch control.
You also get upgraded 19” wheels with the Performance Spec and 275mm wide rear tires for a more planted look. Something we’re going to talk more about in just a minute.
There is a third trim level that will only be built in 240 units and that is the Proto Spec. As the name suggests this will be a Z Performance with the same colors that we saw on the Z Proto concept car-yellow paint, black roof, bronze wheels, and yellow brake calipers.
The reason I’m not really counting it as a full trim level is that I’m sure these will all be sold out the first day the 2023 Nissan Z goes on sale.
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I actually adore the new Z - Hats off to Nissan for keeping it totally in-house and actually giving us a manual.
Manuals are dying so I respect Nissan for this
in house? its a rehashed 370z
@@pettersaethre factz I prefer the 350z or the r35 more than this basic piece of shit.💯
Another supra fanboy that cant handle the truth that toyota engines were always copies of mercedes bmw volkwagen and other german brands ever since ww2 and so is this nissan like it or not every big japanse company got influenced by german design
It’s what the Supra should have been. Toyota messed up by not making a manual. Nissan is going to steal a lot of customers from Toyota. I know auto is the future and are typically faster, but there’s something to be said about driving a turbocharged manual car.
The spoiler actually makes the car look more retro. It’s a winner for me
Yea I really like the spoiler tbh
I would like it, if they had three options:
• without
• the spoiler as shown
• a (somewhat) big black wing
@@se7enhaender yea, like options. I want a stripped out one. Like a $1 option too remove the passenger and ac etc. that’ll be badass.
@@yourmomssideniggah2825 Maybe like the demon, where you pay 1$ and get no seats or ac, but you get a crate with all that stuff to add in the future if you want.
The wing is cool but I prefer it without the wing as it’s more flowy then with the wing on
Nissan: introduces "Z Proto"
Whole world: omg whats it gonna be called for real, 400Z? 300Z Turbo??
Nissan: Z.
Just like the what happened to the Skyline GTR its now simply as the GTR
Good. I been saying for the longest how stupid it is for it to be called a '400Z' if it's a 3.0L. If it was gonna be a 400Z wouldn't it be a 4.0?? 😂
@@datdatonabeat3252 it's called 400Z because it has 400hp
@@subie2831 But it isn't logical to suddenly change the meaning of numbers. When it is always based on the displacement of the Z platform right from the start. They could just call it the 300ZX again, and I would largely approve it.
And the whole time it was written on the tyres 👏
A very appealing design which has it roots in the history of the Z-platform. Japanese designers are doing a great job these days, also over at Toyota and Mazda. I am from Germany and the Germans complain very much about the new domestic designs, especially BMW. In my opinion, the only design we get right is the Porsche 911 which has its constant refinements over the decades, similar to this new Nissan Z.
The Volkswagen group is doing pretty well with designs, Im liking what Audi is doing atm.
But BMW is doing horrid things with those grilles and Mercedes just needs to fire their entire design team.
Vw group still doing great, meanwhile mercedes-benz and BMW...
Dude Toyota cars are garbage, they're ugly ass hell, look at the stupid GR-86, they stole the damn tail light from an Acura NSX.
@@zZiL341yRj736 I have never seen so much misinformation. You are just salty.
@@RiasGremoryS54 This man doesn’t think the new Z shit all over the BMW Supra, must’ve be a Toyota fan boy, or living under a rock!
I’m loving the re-insurgence of retro design, going back to real passionate styling.
I agree 100%
*resurgence
I wouldn't call the grill passionate styling, but I appreciate it not looking like a soulless swoopy mess a-la new bmws.
@@dogboy0912 soulless swoopy mess 🤣🤣 nailed it
This car has “compromise” written all over it. It’s clearly just a 370z with new body panels. That’s a 20 year old car underneath.. Compare this to the Beetle or Mini copper! It’s a bin part car that’s 5 years too late.
Especially with the new lamborgini
Fun fact: The silver lining trim on the side is meant to look like Katana blade, according to Nissan designer
Anything silver trim represent katana for japanese car manufacturer.
That is so sick 😭
lol sure
Bro these japanese designers be saying anything cos they know western media will eat that shit up 😂 edit: just rewatched the new wrx ad and they bragged about it having “kono-ji” headlights like wtf does that even mean
I keep mentioning: You CANNOT have flush wheels in production cars, not because of rubbing, but because of laws regarding whether the wheel/tires sticks out of the body. In Japan for example the wheel center cannot go past the top fender, so even if you clear the fender liner with camber it’d still not be compliant. You can work around these with little tabs on bumpers but that’s not pretty either.
Regarding concepts looking similar to production: design lock for a production car happens years before it’s unveiled to the public. By the time the Z Proto came out the production design was done, meaning they likely just spruced up the production version. Some concept cars are a proof of concept, which after greenlit then goes into the production design phase, which takes years.
never understood why this is a rule considering even stock factory cars can have a fat body kit that virtually does the same thing but elongated to hell since the tires have to reach towards the fenders to fit and not look retarded
Yeah anyone who wants to buy a car stanced from factory are clowns.
@@bigreddaman5988 absolutely
Lolol
Yes you can, a lot of Audi's have flush offsets, and vw's, and other cars without issue. My wheels poke 5-10mm outside my guards, and without stretch or excessive camber i have 0 clearance issues even on track. Wheels do not move directly up and down, they follow the swing of the control arms, thus coming in as they compress.
I want one. Only thing holding me back is my tiny bank account.
And pp
@@_baller projecting?
@@KC-py5vq no actually, are you
@@KC-py5vq Apparently he's not projecting much
Can't wait to buy one in 10 years 😩
Another thing I love about it is that they kept the manual handbrake on. This would be such a fun car to drive
Finally found someone that talks about the manual handbrake. Like legit, that what sold me for this car. If I get one, I’mma be yanking that handbrake in empty parking lot.
@@issackaiser exactly. Like the Golf GTI is an amazing car and a really good hot hatchback but the electric handbrake is why stopped thinking about it. But the Z is a proper sports car. All manual, RWD, engine at the front, how it should be👌🏻
Look at the car "holy moly what do we have here, the new z is fucking beautiful"
Read specs "manual transmission? Yeah nice to have that. Rwd? Delicious! Manual handbrake? Nissan wtf? I don't have that much money! Stop it is so much good!"
"It looks like a shell on top of some parts"
So, who's gonna tell him how cars were made before unibodies?
Eeeeh let him have his moment. I ain’t gonna tell him either.
Maybe he didnt mean it from an engineering perspective... It was the matter of aesthetics, maybe a diffuser at the bottom could solve the problem tho.
The production model fixed what I was skeptical about, glad they did it. But I won't be able to even see one any time soon, for once that Europeans don't get the cool stuff..
What was it
We do get cool stuff, but for at least 2 times the price :')
@@chriskeo392 the rear spoiler, because I thought the rear missed something. And the front grille having some visible "separation" and not just a huge black rectangle. It's not that much but it's just what felt off to me
@@AvAfanfromfrance the back I love , the front I agree...but I'm learning to love the front.
Same with the m3 kidney grill...hated it and now I love it
@@chriskeo392 grilles are as important as light signatures now. The facial features of cars are what makes their identity, now that a lot of synergy between brands is going on
They said before it got released its about 99% done
The 1% gotta be the Z badge on the rear
I hope they put the fairlady badge for the American version too. They were going through some patents on that in America.
And that ugly USDM side marker light. I hope they don't put that on their global Z's
@@mrheyfuckoff1 rear sidemarker looks fine but front sidemarker in a freaking headlights,its looks off thats why someone need to make a bodykit that have vents so the sidemarker can be install on it like the old Z
@@mrheyfuckoff1 It's not like they had a choice. It's obligatory for every car in the US. Global version won't have this anyway.
@@mrheyfuckoff1 It's federal law so they have to sadly
I am totally loving how the DRL headlights look round when viewed from the front lower angle. Classic meets modern !!!!
I'm so glad Nissan didn't call it "400Z"!
It might have 400 hp but it doesn't have a *4.0 engine* ...
All previous *Z model* generations had their model names connected to the engine displacement!
*Good decision* by Nissan for *not* messing it up in these modern times and calling it "400Z" because the previous generation was called the "370Z"...
Simply called it the "Z"! 👏
From engineering standpoint, it`s a really awesome thing they carried a lot of old parts from the previous model and their parts bin. Great recipe for good reliability, aka, potential.
Nissan nailed it. Can’t wait to purchase mine.
i already purchased it for you... I parked it at 3333 Beach Blvd, Jacksonville, FL 32207
The way they kept the retro design with regulations is impressive. 👏 👏.
Really hard feat
I really do like the car. So glad Nissan is updating the Z! I do like the trunk lip but from images, I think I prefer no wing like the proto simply bc of the badging. I think the reason for the sunk in wheels is to make the cars legal but it's nothing a set of spacers can't fix. I honestly love how the 370z interior is mostly carried over. I agree, the 370z's interior had a really good layout. It just got really old since it hasn't been updated since 2009. My only thing with the interior is the piano black steering wheel controls. From my limited experience, it gets dusty so quickly and it's so easy to scratch. Since it's a high touch area, Nissan probably already thought it through and took measures to help alleviate that
I agree I would have to see it in person but I think the smooth lines off the back look better without the wing. I'd love that Fairlady badging though.😉👍
Cadillac is really bad with the glossy interiors. I was in auto detailing and go tell you from very hand experience that it will look great until you drive the car in any capacity. glass loves finger prints
Lolol
Nice to hear that they are in fact saving the manuals
I am 50 years old. I found myself battling tears watching this. It really filled me with nostalgia. Thank you Nissan...
I’m 38 and grew up with Datsuns as a kid.
This is awesome.
First impression for me was impressed but I didn’t like the front end, but seeing the production model the more I look at it the more i like it
You should try your hand at a g-nose redesign of this! Would love to see what could look like on the modern platform
I never had needed this car in my life this bad until now I can’t wait until it’s released
The new Z in blue with that spoiler look like modern Devil Z from Wangan Midnight, I LOVE IT ❤
Good analysis, definitely agree with your recommendations about the wheels / tires / wheel arches. One thing I was hoping they’d do is break up the front grille a little more, basically take your sketch line at 10:38 and paint it in body color to visually divide up the grille real estate a bit. But I guess that’s an easy enough fix with a little touch up paint if it really bothered me. Also, I like the deck lid spoiler as it helps transition the roof line to the car’s rear end IMO (I’ve got that option on my 350Z so I’m biased), but I wish they would have left the door handles alone and gone with the Proto version. The production ones have this weird trim panel around them which just draws too much attention and makes them look tacked on. I see the keyhole is in that panel, but I have to think they could have just added that in the door panel and went with the Proto handles instead. Oh well, overall I’m happy with the new car, well done Nissan 👏
The lip spoiler is only on the 'performance' model and is an optional add-on for the 'sport' model. I personally like it better with out but to each their own. Nissan did an amazing job bringing the concept to life!!
I want to put an aftermarket duckfin on it.
A "wing" allows air to go over the top and under the bottom. What is on this car is a 'spoiler'...
you should definitely get one, it would also be great content for the channel + it's such a great car
I like the little wing!
I think the production version actually looks better than the prototype, and that's a rare thing.
I've driven that private road in the promo film. It's the Maryhill Loops Road outside of Goldendale, WA.
That’s lit
Honestly, you should do a concept custom build. To inspire some of us for a new z build 🤙🏻
This black and blue spec looks so awesome, one day I'd like to try and get my hands on one
Love the channel. Just bought a Tesla model 3 (thanks for the video helping me to make the purchase) ordered it in June and it arrives in 3 weeks. I also have a 1977 280z
You never mentioned the 6+4 brakes on the proto vs the 4+2 brakes on the production. That's a gtr brake setup on the proto.
The reason why the stance is gone was because of negative camber to meet handling regulations. The proto looks like a zero or a slightly positive camber. Hit a corner hard enough and the tires will flex onto the sidewalls. That's not going to be a good thing as the sidewalls are not as reliable than the treads.
I would totally remove the orange indicator inside the headlight housing as well as the lip spoiler, perhaps a more rounded carbon fiber spoiler would do it more justice but looks amazing without it anyways
This design is well done. It looks great and has the feel of the original. I like it. Always loved to design since seeing original in the early 1970 era as a kid. I had the Revell model kit of the 240 z in that time frame.
That clip of JC is me when I first saw this car. Nothing but smiles
The new Z looks nice and I'm starting to see that the design is more of a retro tribute that a totally new design.
Only thing for me is that I think the tail lights should be stretched out a bit more. Or at least have the rectangular design stretch out and wrap around the reflectors instead of creating a 4 light design.
Looks: 240z
Power train: z32 300zx
Price: 350z
I'm sorry if I irritate someone with the comment that I'm about to say. I usually strongly HATE analysis/reviews around a cars looks/design, but this video is gold. It blows my mind how Raiti's Rides gets 100k + views with his straightforward and pointing the obvios video and this video only 1/10 of the views. I hope this channel gets the attention it deserves; this content is too good to be just watched by a few.
Woah, great attention to detail.. I would have never noticed the less aggressive stance and gap between the wheel housing and the rear end - but now I can't stop seeing it..
The 'wing' is probably needed for high speed stability.
And actually it's not a wing, but it's a spoiler.
I do wish manufacturers would specify what and how/much a given aero accessory performs, cause sometimes they really are mostly just for show. I like this tail either way, though, so I'm not so fussed about it. :)
All that cheap spoiler is gonna do is cause more turbulence behind the car, slowing it down. The car really needs a proper wing.
@@Lofi.z34 can't wait to see big ass drift wings slapped on, ruining the entire rear motif lmao
It's such a fine car. It's one of the only new cars that I love with passion.
My first car was a 72’ 240z in that same yellow as the proto. Sadly had to sell it right after getting the electricals completely redone. I love the hood design… brings back memories.
That silver line your referenced is an inverted Katana. Great video.
loved the jeremy clarkson reference
Can't wait to get one!
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GREAT VIDEO~ I owned a 240Z for 26 years aka (Norm The 12 Sec Dual SU Dude) This Z has me pretty damn excited!
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Without the spoiler you'd get excessive lift on the back at hight speeds due to the shape of the roof and hatch(it's like an inverted diffuser)
It it looks dope af with the spoiler too
Advice on the tees, you should do simple line drawings of cars, pretty trendy right now and I'd buy
Super quality content ! You should have at least million subscribers !
8:45 I always hated this too but I never knew how to explain it lol. Thanks for the explanation I needed
_i can't wait for the Best Motornig Crew got a hands-on that car to do their typical test and honest review._
This makes me wish NIssan would bring back the S-chassis and base it around an S15.
S16 dream
mannn
Silvia S16 2.0 I4 turbo with light body would woop the ass of MK5 supra 2.0 then new twin turbo Z would compete with 3.0 supra.
@@DuBstep115 Exactly. Imagine Nissan having a car that has BRZ weight with a 2.0-2.4L turbo that can make ecoboost power. It would dominate.
@@Cwrigh25 MZR/ecoboost swap an rx8 shell. Only slightly heavier than a BRZ, easy 300hp and you can keep the transmission.
Mazda could've done this from the get go and had a general classic as opposed to the cult classic it has now.
Im really impressed with Nissan on this one. such a nice blend of modern and retro. Im hoping to get one someday.
I keep coming back to this car...a year ago I thought it was okay looking, now I think it looks great, especially when you consider what other car manufacturers are coughing up and trying to sell.
I called three local Nissan dealers. It’s like their sales staff don’t even know this car exists or why anyone would want one. Nissan has bigger problems than a chip shortage! 🤦♂️
Call Mark O. @Capital Motor Cars. It's the best way to get access to any vehicle
Lol. When I went in to order my 2015 WRX. I had to walk out and go to another Subaru dealer cause the sales guy was so useless. All he had to do was put in my order. First told me I can’t test drive the one they had in the store which I was there to put in the order. Than told me the car only comes in manual 🤦🏻♂️.
@@Endlessfairytale lmao
I contacted a Nissan sales manager today, thinking that if anyone would know something, he would. Nope.
@@Endlessfairytale Only one store actually bothered to ask for my name and number to call me once pre-orders open. The others just made excuses. One told me "don't worry, they'll be plenty available." Really? In the exact spec that I want? Somebody calls looking to spend $45k and you tell them "call back later"? 🤦♂️
The "grille" that isn't a grille design that are on cars these days need to go, so sick of it
I agree about the wheels and stance. I had a G37 and put stance concave wheels and makes a HUGE difference
I just wish the grill still had the Fangs! I love the look of the Fangs on the grill.
Lets hope they make profit and improve the interior in the next revision
I just wish they stopped making their cars with hard plastic. I can understand back in the day with the 350z where practically everything was hard plastic, but for today’s day and age I think they could’ve used some better materials. I can’t wait until the aftermarket does something with the front bumpers too. Other than that I think the cars performance will settle any doubt in people’s mind.
@@adonismorales9363 Would you like them to add diamonds and gold to the interior for free too? Everything has a price.
@@ytsux9259 Lol yeah and add a pair of prescription glasses for you that way you can see how Nissan has had the same cheaply built interiors in their cars since the launch of the 350z in 2002. All I'm saying is that you're going to pay 40k for nothing really that new. It's been around for ages. I get everything comes at a cost, but Nissan barely developed anything for the car. They used the 370z chassis (which saves them money), they took the engine from an infinity(saves them money), and used old design language from past Z's. Maybe just maybe they could have used some more money to make a more unique interior. Instead, they made papa smurfs version of a new Z and called it a day.
@@adonismorales9363 I have a 370Z and there isn't any hard plastic except for the center console where the shifter is located.
I'm super excited possibly the last "true" sports car before the ev takeover and if the price is actually 40k I'm down but the blue interior either needs to be a lot more blue or just blue accents right now it reminds me of late 90s where people paint matched the interior 🤢
The new Nissan Z in blue reminds me of the Devil Z in the Wangan Midnight manga. Man it really feels nostalgic. Now I want to buy one. Gotta work harder.
Yeah man ,hope you are able to buy it one day
I love the way wheels and spacing looks makes me hope that it will squat a little bit and thats what the space is for when you floor it.
The followed the retro styling to a T. Just like the retro styling of the Mustang and Challenger .
I thought the new supra was so Blah. Don’t like that it’s a BMW with slight difference. Also no manual?? No thank you. This new Z with stock 400hp we all know that bump to 500 will be super easy. Manual 6sp. The stying is clean and beautiful. Honestly very excited about this car.
I paid close to this for my nismo z in 2007. The price point def makes me want to get one too.
I absolutely love it, seems like nissan just a made a perfect car for z fans. The body, the engine, the interior, the entire design and the price everithing is beautiful about this car and a fact that they still in 2021 made optional manual transmission makes me adore it even more. I hope one day i will buy one and wish whoever reads this comment too💕
Japan automakers are bringing back the legends. Or as I can say: JDM legends 2.0. And Nissan did the best among all of the other Japanese automakers. I would go for the Proto Spec with the ducktail spoiler too 🤤
I mean did they really? Its just a 370z facelift.
@@jdmr1c3ing You are annoying in real life, and I can tell.
@@Ayuraos Debatable. Regardless, taking a Z34 (a 13yo platform) and just restyling it and putting the junk VR30 in it from the Q60 (which lets be honest, it should’ve been done years ago but considering nissan has been mismanaged since the Renault buy, it isn’t a surprise.) is really not that impressive.
@@jdmr1c3ing It is now not debatable. You are annoying irl.
@@Ayuraos Your hair is annoying
They should have deleted the emblems and just used the Z logo.
But then how will cops know what the person in interest is driving hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Love the pedal set up heel and toe baby
Great video! My first brand new car was a 1978 280Z!
Just imagine if the IDx NISMO went into production
Big miss on nissan IMO
Would be good enough to compete with mx5 and 86.
Who knows, maybe they might do that once the Z succeeds
The what now? 🤔🥴
@@masashiiino6914 There will definitely be a Z Nismo in 2023, as sources say. It'll be around $50K and have at least 450hp, very close to the $56K Supra which realistically has 440bhp (or 380 whp).
@@ytsux9259 ofc, but i was talking about the Nissan IDx, the small RWD Sports car that Nissan didn't greenlit for production
It’s alright looking. I still prefer the body style of the 370z.
Give it some time, it will grow on you like everyone else.
You're the only one in the world. 🤣
@@ytsux9259 I don’t think I am
@@terdff57 its just a rehashed version of the 370
Regarding the stance, in order to get that low ride height and wheel / body clearance is that the car will strike the bottom and front splitter on speed bumps and inclines without an electric lift mechanism like on C8 corvette
Something you missed from the side profile, was that they changed the body lines at the bottom of the door.
Looks a lot better than the Supra. Probably performs better too.
Can't wait for the new Z car to come out this spring.
spring 2023
@@ichwersunst I know that it comes out in the spring of 2022 and all but I wanna know the specific month and day it comes out for the public to see just like the rest of us.
@@LonesomeDrifter1987 ah my bad,it sounded like you were expecting spring 2022
@@ichwersunst its coming out next year in the spring of 2022 as a "2023" model... April 1st of each year is Nissan's start of the new fiscal year. Nissan is already in the year 2022 currently.
@@Mr.Lambert777 ah i got my infos from an outdated article,you are completely right
I think this car has quite timeless design. I love that interior a lot too, lot of retro style combined with the modern technology. They made it work so well. Definitely would love to own one. 👌
6:48 the thing with the wheels being inside de body work, is that they are protected from crashes and damage to additional parts
What would a NISMO version look like? 🙂
Probably lower, white & red, and uglier.
@@se7enhaender It's like saying manthey racing from Porsche is bad. This comment alone sums up that you know absolutely nothing about Nissan Nismo.
@@RiasGremoryS54 No Mister Butthurt, it's like describing a likely potential look and my subjective opinion of what I imagined... I'm sorry if you can't comprehend simple sentences and therefore come to irrational conclusions, but that is on you.
@@se7enhaender Good joke. Nismo is all about competitive racing. Why are you talking about style ? It's not about being subjective. My point still stand, that comment show that you know nothing about them. Next time if you want to talk about style then speak for you. Say in my *opinion...*
Nismos are always a timeless thing of beauty especially in factory color.
@@se7enhaender He said nothing wrong. Why are you being toxic ? 🤡
Could you design a new skyline / gtr with the
z's design in mind?
My first car was a 1979 280zx and I also had a 1976 280z so I am in love with the design language of the new Z. However the 350/370z did not have a great driving position and you couldn't push it past 8/10ths so I hope Nissan has addressed these issues on the new Z. I look forward to driving one and it lives up to the design language maybe it will end up in my garage.
I really like your attention to detail, the way you talk about car design has me wishing you were in charge of design for car companies.
The 350/370 have great driving positions and you can definitely push them to their limit, especially with the right mods.
@@UnitiveWILLIAM24 I did not like the 350/370z driving position, and yes with mods it can be a good driving experience but it's not great from the factory. The 350hp 370z nismo went slower around VIR than the 228hp GR86.
@@CruiseControl1 eh, I can see that, especially with the newer tech and precise steering the gr86 has. But the 370z is an older car from 2009 and completely destroyed the FRS and gt86. The new 2023 Z is in a higher class than the gr86 and will take its lunch money any day of the week
@@UnitiveWILLIAM24 The new Z better with 400hp and 350lb tq. I love the new Z look inside and out, but it gained weight and that's never good for a sports car. Power does not compensate for weight in corners that's just physics.
Would the bottom of the front grill in body color look good and more 240 ? i would like to see a photo shop to see if that is any kind of an idea or a mess .
Do you recognize that this Z400, bronco, countach, NSX type s, more cars are going back in design language than ever ? why so
The generation that saw those as youngsters can probably now afford them lol.
I think one reason is because it will make people switch to EV easier. Give em a taste of nostalgia along with the new EV Batteries. Mark my words you will see new EV's with the old school design language. I love it. Its very classy and many will age well.
I am not a fan of the front end at all. They could have done better
looks unfinished up front to me..theres alot more character that could have been sculpted in
@@skip741x3 they tried to mimic the classic model but the classic looked great because of the round concave headline design. The bug eyes with the wide mouth looks so awkward.
Agreed. The damn hole in the middle is charring and in no proportion to the overall front. Halfing that, at least visually would make this car have really good design..
One thing missed was the rear quarter panel reflector that the Proto did not have, but production car does. I prefer the clean fender without the reflector. Most likely some dumb requirement for road usage, but just a little something that just takes away from the clean lines of the car. I actually liked the darker shade of the grille and would probably plasti dip it to match the rest of the opening as the production grille gives off the look of teeth in a smile or something. Otherwise I think the car is beautiful and has a fantastic retro look with modern touches.
Please can you make a video like this but on the 2022 F1 car pleeease, strictly looks wise
$40k? Good luck getting one at MSRP. Going to be another C8 fiasco.
Another thing I've seen nobody talk about at all is the brakes. Proto has aggressive 6 piston fronts/two piece rotors, production has the 370z brake setup. HUGE disadvantage.
As someone who's owned a 240,300, 3 350's and a 370 the '23 Z just doesn't quite do it for me. It doesn't look mean at all. Your '21 Camry TRD looks sportier than this Z >.>
It’s not supposed to look mean. And the Camry like the civic is overly designed ricebox not this or any z for that matter. Less is more.
What I can’t understand, someone like you that loves car design , buys a model 3 Tesla, the most uninspiring vehicle design inside and out, especially the inside.
The model 3 is a great looking, clean, functional design, that doesn't try to look like it has an internal combustion engine.
@@Incomudro1963 believe what you want, to everyone that I know, that doesn’t have interest in cars, they all say the interior is cheap and shit, the outside is average at best. Also functional design doesn’t mean going through the screen to turn on basic things, like the wipers.
Agreed. Teslas look "ok" but totally bland and uninspired.. would never get one. Quality im not sure about but seeing the gaps between parts of the body vary wildly is always a fun endeavour when i come across one!
My first car was a 1972 240Z....this is the first Z car I've liked since. very nice
Very insightful breakdown…
Very disappointed to hear it’s just a reskin of the current model/ chassis. The cheap plastic interior also speaks to Nissan’s lack of confidence in the brand or consideration for the fans. I understand budgeting, but Nissan _NEEDS_ a win! 🤦♂️
Agreed the use of cheap plastic makes you feel like you’re driving a old 240z and then it hits you..... im in a brand new car that has the same interior as the cars in the early 2000’s. I like that they stuck to their Z heritage, but I think it needs an update.
So you’re already drawing conclusions on a car that just recently was revealed, and basically only photos are available, that don’t tell the entire story. Yes it’s not perfect, but no car is perfect. I’d reserve my full judgement for when reviews of them start coming out, and when they start arriving in showrooms
@@adonismorales9363 Not sure how you can tell its all cheap plastic just by looking at it.
@@StratosNG Theres already hi-res images of their interior. It's plastic! 🙄
@@onelyone6976 Nissan has confirmed this "new" Z is the same 370Z chassis with hardware from their Infiniti Q60. I'm sure it'll be a fine car -- it looks great -- but it won't be the "all-new experience" promised by Nissan. The point is that it's a reskin and Nissan promising more than that could easily backfire on them!
This car is a 370z with a new body. The frame and interior are pretty much the same. Sad. this is not innovation
Yeah very good
In my opinion the 370z looks better than this. This looks like Nissan threw in a munch of old design elements ultimately ending up to making a new z car that just looks confused and lost at this point. I just hope the aftermarket makes body kits soon because this isn’t really that appealing.
No, it's got new engine, drive train, interior, exterior and upgraded chassis.
The only thing the same with the 370z is the chassis. There is no way you think the interior in the 370z looks the same as the new Z.
@@adonismorales9363 Agree 100%. This looks like a new body that was designed in pieces by a committee that didn't talk to each other.
I agree so much that z is a pure beauty and Im really happy that there are still brands like Nissan to keep bulding car like this for pure driving hapiness🔥💯
would love to see a set of clear/white tail lights that were available for the jdm z32's that inspired them. i'm sure there's a company somewhere that already has that in mind.
The front end sucks
Personally I love it
@@Impoopinus personally it sucks
@@_baller personally I love it
to me it mixes the greats all together... like it has the classic 240z headlight cutouts and body shape, 300zx rear end, 370z modern style its pretty cool
That grill looks like a great place for a massive front mount...
I'm glad of the new grill treatment, they really fixed that quibble I had too about the featureless black. Though I think I could have fixed that with a nice rattlecan of something easy enough. :) Overall, this is much more what I had in mind when they promised the 350 would be 'retro-inspired' or however they phrased it.