I hate pianoblack and I hate all functions in screens. Not only VW, I stopped buying Mercedes after 25 years being their customer because of most functions in screens and the BS capacitive buttons.
19:54 it’s indeed so important. Me and my wife are doing car camping. We have a 2 meter inflatable bed and your measurements guide us for a good camping car. Thanks!
Data &. facts: VW Tayron Successor of Tiguan Allspace Always illuminated logo LED base, LED Plus Matrix or HD Matrix LED 4,77 m 188“ length (22 cm 9“ longer than EU Tiguan with 11 cm or 4“ wheelbase longer) 17“-20“ wheels (Elegance 18“, R-Line 19“) Optional DCC Pro adaptive suspension 10,25“ instruments 13“ or 15“ infotainment 5 or 7-seater Life trim base High trims: Elegance and R-Line, Black Style pack possible Seats fabric, Fabric/Microfibre for high trim with ergoactive seat or optional animal skin Seat massage option Trunk 5-seater PHEV 705 l - 1.915 l Trunk 5-seater 885 l - 2.090 l Trunk 7-seater 850 l - 1.905 l Engines all DSG automatic 1,5 l TSI 150 hp MHEV FWD 2,0 l TSI 204 hp AWD or 265 hp AWD 1,5 l PHEV 204 hp FWD or 272 hp FWD 20 kWh net battery 11 kW AC 50 kW DC 2,0 l TDI 150 hp FWD or 193 hp AWD No PHEV for 7-seater! Towing max 2,5 t for AWD models Logic is as follows, it is complicated: Tiguan for EU (5-seater), built in Wolfsburg, Germany. Tayron for EU (7-seater), built in Wolfsburg. Tayron for China (5-seater), built in China. Tiguan for US (5-seater) is basically a modified Tayron without additional seats and built in Mexico.
Lately when driving on the busy road at night I find the increased amount of LED on "modern" cars a little annoying. Especially when its a line connecting left and right lights. Just ads more visual clutter to the night
Before watching whole video I switch to interior review to check : are there real buttons ? is there no piano black ? is there clima control unit ? 3 x YES and I watch the rest of video 😂😂
@@711colonel Not the only one. Wolfgang Egger - BYD Klaus Zyciora Bischoff - Changan Stefan Sielaff - Geely Benjamin Baum - Li Auto All in VAG before. Thats the downside of globalism and rise of individualism. You just need hire a handful or less persons with money to make drastic changes in whole peoples economy.
What the actual heck are these thin tires on the rear? Looks like some bicycle tires to be fair. This with also having the rear so high makes it look super ugly imo.
We Chinese are no strangers to this. Tayron has always been a special model only available for China. It called 探岳 in chinese. Great to see it became a global model😃
@@architkumarsingh4547 What makes you think that? Once people realize electric cars are not feasible in the long run, they will all run back to ICE cars and one of the few car manufacturers that will still produce them is Mazda.
Definitively interested in your comparison Thomas. Will VAG allow you to do this? I have a feeling that the Kodiaq offers a little more for a friendlier price… except for the 272hp version of the PHEV 😢.
Every day i am more thankful that i purchased the old school mazda cx 5 These 1.0, 1.2 & 1.5 engines with turbo are just a dam waiting to burst. Plus this will cost way more than what i can afford.
My sister-in-law drives a T-roc 1.0 as a company car ( 4 years old) and soo far no problems at all. That in Switzerland's driving contitions is (maybe) a good sing for those 3 cylinder turbo engines.😊
Dont know... looks cheap..but the prices will be like 50.000€+ 🤦 And the new Tiguan i did check it and the gaps between the bumpers and the hood...are 5 mm and more..that says the built Quality not good....and that car is 40.000€ 🤦 The VAG CEO's should change theire Job
When doing the door closing sound test, open up an other door first? my experience is that because there is way less pressure build up it sound way more horrible...
Lol, blame it on fuel efficiency and it not being a race car. But also, am sure a sticky compound will keep you on the road as it's more than just about size, no?
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That's crazy that it's marketed as a 7 seater but the space is much more cramped than a Touran or Alhambra.. pointless not to allow for more adjustment in the second and third row.. I was excited about this.. but now I will just stick with my Touran
I just cannot get on board with large touch screens in vehicles. They are simply too jarring for me regarding dashboard aesthetics. In addition they are far too distracting and irritating compared to simple switches and buttons. Nice video though. Always enjoy your content. X
Sorry VW, this is not a seven seat vehicle, imo. Why are they offering 'larger' U.S. folk, who seem to like box-shaped SUV's, an even shallower roofline? Makes zero sense. Do they want VW to fail everywhere? The Touran MPV is a much better product, i feel. Good review guys, of another flawed model.
Good video Thomas! Do you know if led headlamps are far better than old fog lamps (those air passages in laterals of front bumper are really functional and necessary?)
Saw this car in Puebla its a good upgrade .. and in mexico the normal Tiguan starts at ruffly 25.000 USD (depending on Line and Deal) ALl in all i like it as a cheap spaced alternative to the more expensive Atlas
I don't trust VWoA, by the time it comes to NA they'll probably dumb it down so it can be as cheap as a Hyundai/Kia product. but maybe they'll prove me wrong.
I saw the Tayron yesterday. Either I'm a midget or Thomas is actually a giant. 😂. Great review! If this was available in 2023. I would have not chosen the Allspace.
Car for life. I used standard Tiguan to trip to other city for 2 days: it's quite a reliable car, you are always expecting from this machinery that it will deliver what you want with no excuses
Except according to VWoA, the Tayron and the new North American Tiguan are quite different: “The global reveal for the European Volkswagen Tayron is today, October 9th. While this model is widely reported to represent the next version of the Tiguan for the U.S. market, be advised that while the U.S. Tiguan will receive the long-wheelbase setup of this model, the sheetmetal, powertrain options and equipment set will differ markedly. More details about the U.S. Tiguan offer will be forthcoming later this year.”
What a confusioning design. It's really ugly compared to the old generation. Why did they dedicate so much console space to that button in the middle that just controls a few things like driving mode, but then bother to move the gear selector to a steering wheel stalk? Just very strange design choices that seems to make no sense. It's as if many different design teams worked on different components and never worked together on anything. Why free up the console space of the gear selector, only to put a less important button in the middle of it? You would think they would instead go for more console storage space or something that customers would actually appreciate instead.
How is it that vw really gets a lot of things right again when even bmw abandons it but then makes so many bad decisions also. I think skoda is now what vw used to be
As an American with an IQ above room temperature I always find it insulting when they change a cars name for our market. Like I'm too dumb to know that's not a Tiguan or I can't pronounce "Qashqai" I'm sure it will be a fine car but Volkswagen of America treats it customers like children and cuts them off from the worldly experience that VW has to offer. No wagons, not oddballs. It's very boring here
Thomas, please allow Lia to present her own video. After so many years filming you she should be well capable now and will appeal to the female viewers too. Try grow the channel in that sense. Thanks for the great work as always.
I like this, but I am not considering an upgrade from my current Tiguan without an answer to my only big complaint- It is completely gutless. This video doesn't give me the answer. If the power improves I would consider it.
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This is our in-depth review of the first-ever VW Tayron (Tiguan Allspace successor). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
00:00 Tayron the LWB Tiguan
01:16 Tayron R-Line
01:48 Length vs Tiguan
03:39 Rear design
04:17 DCC Pro suspension
04:37 Light details
05:13 Elegance comparison
05:37 Engines
06:20 Interior quality
07:31 Seats and comfort
08:24 Cockpit
10:40 Driver POV
11:51 Handles!
12:27 Rear seats 2nd row
15:10 3rd row 7-seater
17:37 Trunk / boot
20:54 PHEV 5-seater trunk
21:20 Where it is built
#VW #VWTayron
They should fire the current VW designer team and start anew
This is a story with BMW, VW and Audi. All big 3 need new design teams
And someone who designed electric Mercedes too tbh
What about the Hyundai or BMW?
This car is as exciting as a glass of room temperature water
@MarcusSteiger Yeah, this is why VW is doing so well. They have many tools there
Still looks better than the Skoda.
Again piano black. They do not care.
Obviously not. I miss 2005-2016 era
Back in the "good" old days i used to make fun of fake wood trims....now i wish to have those than piano black trims😢
I hate pianoblack and I hate all functions in screens.
Not only VW, I stopped buying Mercedes after 25 years being their customer because of most functions in screens and the BS capacitive buttons.
It's so awful, I feel like Hyundai/Kia are the only manufacturer that actually cares about user experience on the inside.
May it's time we also didn't care, ànd do not but it 😂
All the Tyrones be driving Tayrons 😂
Lmao
19:54 it’s indeed so important. Me and my wife are doing car camping. We have a 2 meter inflatable bed and your measurements guide us for a good camping car. Thanks!
Data &. facts:
VW Tayron
Successor of Tiguan Allspace
Always illuminated logo
LED base, LED Plus Matrix or HD Matrix LED
4,77 m 188“ length (22 cm 9“ longer than EU Tiguan with 11 cm or 4“ wheelbase longer)
17“-20“ wheels (Elegance 18“, R-Line 19“)
Optional DCC Pro adaptive suspension
10,25“ instruments
13“ or 15“ infotainment
5 or 7-seater
Life trim base
High trims: Elegance and R-Line, Black Style pack possible
Seats fabric, Fabric/Microfibre for high trim with ergoactive seat or optional animal skin
Seat massage option
Trunk 5-seater PHEV 705 l - 1.915 l
Trunk 5-seater 885 l - 2.090 l
Trunk 7-seater 850 l - 1.905 l
Engines all DSG automatic
1,5 l TSI 150 hp MHEV FWD
2,0 l TSI 204 hp AWD or 265 hp AWD
1,5 l PHEV 204 hp FWD or 272 hp FWD 20 kWh net battery 11 kW AC 50 kW DC
2,0 l TDI 150 hp FWD or 193 hp AWD
No PHEV for 7-seater!
Towing max 2,5 t for AWD models
Logic is as follows, it is complicated:
Tiguan for EU (5-seater), built in Wolfsburg, Germany.
Tayron for EU (7-seater), built in Wolfsburg.
Tayron for China (5-seater), built in China.
Tiguan for US (5-seater) is basically a modified Tayron without additional seats and built in Mexico.
Do you know which engine(s) the US will get? Currently we have the 2.0L 184hp turbo that is a little slow.
This "new" Tayron proves that VW's offices aren't haunted. In fact, they are completely unbothered by even a single soul. Utterly soulless.
Which car does it better? Competition wise
@@MadeInGefle Does what better?
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Mazda!! @@pepomk123
I appreciate you color coordinated your clothes and shoes to the car you are reviewing ❤ the attention to detail is noticed 😊
highly appreciated! Always try to do that whenever possible :)
Lately when driving on the busy road at night I find the increased amount of LED on "modern" cars a little annoying. Especially when its a line connecting left and right lights. Just ads more visual clutter to the night
Before watching whole video I switch to interior review to check : are there real buttons ? is there no piano black ? is there clima control unit ? 3 x YES and I watch the rest of video 😂😂
😂 sadly most new cars dont pass
New skoda kodiaq 3x yes
did they just fire every external designer in Europe .. it's like we are going backwards in design and every car now looks like a ford or an opel .
That’s because they all went to work for BYD. the head of BYD Design is Wolfgang Egger
@@711colonel Not the only one.
Wolfgang Egger - BYD
Klaus Zyciora Bischoff - Changan
Stefan Sielaff - Geely
Benjamin Baum - Li Auto
All in VAG before. Thats the downside of globalism and rise of individualism. You just need hire a handful or less persons with money to make drastic changes in whole peoples economy.
What the actual heck are these thin tires on the rear? Looks like some bicycle tires to be fair. This with also having the rear so high makes it look super ugly imo.
Lol, this is a people mover, not a twisting road carving race car! Anyway, am sure you can fit your 265s in the rear if they fit...
How big do you want the grill?
VW: "Yes"
😂🤮
It seems all German brands design for US and chinese market. Classic and subtle German design is dead.
The current Tiguan sold in the US looks a lot better than this new one coming.
We Chinese are no strangers to this. Tayron has always been a special model only available for China. It called 探岳 in chinese.
Great to see it became a global model😃
Keep it. We don't want or need it.
@@alexsam2630unfortunately, VW think there will be demands for it globally
WOW, the new US vehicle looks great!
Good thing we have Mazda still offering naturally aspirated engines in a world of turbochargers. Mazdas are also beautiful outside.
As someone who has both a naturally aspirated and turbocharged Mazda, the turbocharged versions are far better.
They are not making EVs, they are doomed if they do not shift to electric vehicles fast enough.
@@architkumarsingh4547 What makes you think that? Once people realize electric cars are not feasible in the long run, they will all run back to ICE cars and one of the few car manufacturers that will still produce them is Mazda.
Do a Tayron vs Kodiaq comparison please!
Definitively interested in your comparison Thomas. Will VAG allow you to do this? I have a feeling that the Kodiaq offers a little more for a friendlier price… except for the 272hp version of the PHEV 😢.
5:42 You need binoculars to see engine in that engine bay. :D
😂😂
It's not the size that matters lol!
Every day i am more thankful that i purchased the old school mazda cx 5
These 1.0, 1.2 & 1.5 engines with turbo are just a dam waiting to burst.
Plus this will cost way more than what i can afford.
Exactly. You did well, but I am afraid that in the future even Mazda will give in and downsize their engines.
My sister-in-law drives a T-roc 1.0 as a company car ( 4 years old) and soo far no problems at all. That in Switzerland's driving contitions is (maybe) a good sing for those 3 cylinder turbo engines.😊
@@NunoxFerreira I am very happy to hear that she is having a good time with the t roc. I wish her well 👍
Dont know... looks cheap..but the prices will be like 50.000€+ 🤦
And the new Tiguan i did check it and the gaps between the bumpers and the hood...are 5 mm and more..that says the built Quality not good....and that car is 40.000€ 🤦
The VAG CEO's should change theire Job
That blank area on the left side of the steering wheel could have been a user-assignable button. I'm sure VW will figure this out someday...
When doing the door closing sound test, open up an other door first? my experience is that because there is way less pressure build up it sound way more horrible...
Has it borrowed the wheels from a shopping trolley?
Lol, blame it on fuel efficiency and it not being a race car. But also, am sure a sticky compound will keep you on the road as it's more than just about size, no?
When is this coming to the US
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VW clearly needs a new CEO
Should have just kept with the Tiguan Allspace name.
I enjoyed watching the video
thanks as always my friend
And they wonder why the make is going down the drain. There is not a single vw model that makes me want to change my CC
Ugh, that bulky upswept rear…looks like some kind of Toyota or even Chrysler minivan. And that lines separating the roof and c-pillar (d?) Fail.
When is VW Terrance coming out?
You know it’s crazy how big these cars got for the compact suv segment especially in this one
Is the sunroof going to leak? Will the floor flood in the rain? If not, is it really a VW?
thanks for the very interesting video
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Nice upgrade! I can only hope that we'll see the PHEV at some point here in the US.
That's crazy that it's marketed as a 7 seater but the space is much more cramped than a Touran or Alhambra.. pointless not to allow for more adjustment in the second and third row.. I was excited about this.. but now I will just stick with my Touran
would be nice if you could test the sound of the front doors while the back door is open, sometimes depending on the car it sounds different/bad😅
Thanks! Why exactly?
Wow 2016 is still popular in VW design studios!!
It doesnt look like a 2016 design? Tesla does.
Those up-roof inside handles are very useful :)
Thanks Thomas and Lea for this great video,
just a shame about the rear seats, they can't be adjusted separately
Such a tiny change in instrument cluster padding (compared to Tiguan) and it looks like someone actally cared.
I just cannot get on board with large touch screens in vehicles. They are simply too jarring for me regarding dashboard aesthetics. In addition they are far too distracting and irritating compared to simple switches and buttons.
Nice video though.
Always enjoy your content. X
Thanks 🙏
Nope.
I hate dashboard without touchscreen
I prefer the redesigned Tiguan not expecting this switch, hopefully Tayron will not replace it.
Looks good. Is this the "Pure White" colour or the "Oryx White"?
Sorry VW, this is not a seven seat vehicle, imo. Why are they offering 'larger' U.S. folk, who seem to like box-shaped SUV's, an even shallower roofline? Makes zero sense. Do they want VW to fail everywhere? The Touran MPV is a much better product, i feel.
Good review guys, of another flawed model.
Thanks m8!
Good video Thomas!
Do you know if led headlamps are far better than old fog lamps (those air passages in laterals of front bumper are really functional and necessary?)
Thanks 🙏
If you mean, the small slots right in front of the wheel arches, yes, they reduced the turbulences in the wheel arches
Usually separate fog lamps are not necessary anymore with today’s headlamp performance
Thank you for the information!
Saw this car in Puebla
its a good upgrade .. and in mexico the normal Tiguan starts at ruffly 25.000 USD (depending on Line and Deal)
ALl in all i like it as a cheap spaced alternative to the more expensive Atlas
Atlas is only real 7 seater, this is joke 😅
Good presentation Thomas and Lia 👍
Thanks m8!
hey, which colour this was - pure white or Oryx White Pearl Effect?
I really hate light strips, so distracting at night for other drivers
Truly one of the cars ever produced.
they will never gonna bring that sequential blinker in the US market what a shame
If this car comes to North America as refined as this is, it'll do well. Volkswagen has a habit of decontenting cars for that market
I don't trust VWoA, by the time it comes to NA they'll probably dumb it down so it can be as cheap as a Hyundai/Kia product. but maybe they'll prove me wrong.
I saw the Tayron yesterday. Either I'm a midget or Thomas is actually a giant. 😂. Great review! If this was available in 2023. I would have not chosen the Allspace.
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I dont know. It might be a solid product overall, but the exterior design is just not working for me. What a shame.
Car for life. I used standard Tiguan to trip to other city for 2 days: it's quite a reliable car, you are always expecting from this machinery that it will deliver what you want with no excuses
Except according to VWoA, the Tayron and the new North American Tiguan are quite different:
“The global reveal for the European Volkswagen Tayron is today, October 9th. While this model is widely reported to represent the next version of the Tiguan for the U.S. market, be advised that while the U.S. Tiguan will receive the long-wheelbase setup of this model, the sheetmetal, powertrain options and equipment set will differ markedly. More details about the U.S. Tiguan offer will be forthcoming later this year.”
ye there will be some differences, but not huge ones. We ll keep u updated on that as soon as we can take a look
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Hehe yeh indeed we ll see 😎 thanks m8!
This more een Skoda Kodiaq. Thanks for the nice review. Keep up the good work
Lea is right, as usual, with the can holders, she knows detail better!
17:17 door closing sound 😂😂😂😂
Pre-production model maybe?
Still waiting for 4K matrix LED 😂. As if the standard LEDs are not good enough
They could make it size bigger for useable 3rd row like in Santa Fe, with 3 seats in 2nd row from Touran for example. Now we have 2nd kodiaq.....
Where has the auto hold park button gone?
Will the us market get the phev with 262hp or no phev you think?
The light sensor of a friends new generation week old Tiguan went off. It was in the garage for 2 days.
It fits 2.5 tall German guys, front to back. Not bad.
What a confusioning design. It's really ugly compared to the old generation. Why did they dedicate so much console space to that button in the middle that just controls a few things like driving mode, but then bother to move the gear selector to a steering wheel stalk? Just very strange design choices that seems to make no sense. It's as if many different design teams worked on different components and never worked together on anything. Why free up the console space of the gear selector, only to put a less important button in the middle of it? You would think they would instead go for more console storage space or something that customers would actually appreciate instead.
Stupid things are illumitated logos, but where is USB C for dashcam for our security during travel?
This is what the Touareg should have become in last generation. Not an Q7 twin. Would have been a hit.
Which would be better the Kodiaq PHEV or this in a PHEV version?
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@@autogefuehlthanks. I was just wondering given your hands on experience of both - which would you personally go for? Tha me.
They are both more or less identical, it is a question of design and user interface..
And price offer
Great video as always! But im sorry vw. Nothing in this car looks like a vw. And the back shoulder line looks straight off the x5
How is it that vw really gets a lot of things right again when even bmw abandons it but then makes so many bad decisions also. I think skoda is now what vw used to be
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I'd be choosing the original EU Tiguan. It's better looking and more practical as we don't oftenly carry 7 people at once nowadays.
As an American with an IQ above room temperature I always find it insulting when they change a cars name for our market.
Like I'm too dumb to know that's not a Tiguan or I can't pronounce "Qashqai"
I'm sure it will be a fine car but Volkswagen of America treats it customers like children and cuts them off from the worldly experience that VW has to offer. No wagons, not oddballs. It's very boring here
The previous generation looks much better exterior wise
We want Lea to review the next car, to look for the nitty gritty details
Is this facelifted Chinese market tavendor?
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thanks my friend!
Another perfect example why VW is on the edge of bankruptcy
Do you know if this 7 seater will be available in Mexico?
It will not
@autogefuehl It seems like it will be available in Mexico, do you know?
I'm sold.
So no front folding seat ?
The very Best vw brasil ❤
Awesome if we could get those seats, though.
Hmm… 🤔 Isn’t it a Škoda Kodiaq with a VW badge, but without the simply clever features?
Manual seat control in Rline? :D
And why are theren non 4-motion together with ehybrid!???
They managed to put piano black under the armrest. That s**t must be really cheap.
Thomas, please allow Lia to present her own video. After so many years filming you she should be well capable now and will appeal to the female viewers too. Try grow the channel in that sense.
Thanks for the great work as always.
I’m getting really sick of the constant YT ads
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engine so low you can fit a frunk in there 🤣
Side profile looks exactly like a Honda prologue.
Frage: Reichst Du auch diese Vorstellung vom VW Tayron auf Deutsch nach???
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Tyroooonnnneeeeeeeee 💅💅💅
You and Lia are so beautiful. Im so happy for you 2 Thomas.
🙏🙏😎
car amazing
I like this, but I am not considering an upgrade from my current Tiguan without an answer to my only big complaint- It is completely gutless. This video doesn't give me the answer. If the power improves I would consider it.