Worst 3000GT VR4 Timing Belt Service Part 3 + Start Up
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hit another road block with this car while finishing up this timing belt service. Let me know what you guys think is the issue. Don't forget to hit me up if you guys want vinyl decals! I did the youtube Jursaw decal on the back of my truck's tailgate which can be seen at the end of the video. Any orders help support the channel! Thanks!
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dude watching this is like cracking a bubble wrapper, glad you picked this car up ,the vr4 deserves much better care
Anthony Vlyter Thanks, don't forget to click the bell icon next to the subscribe button to get notifications when I upload!
After watching your videos this job seems at least a little less scary. I might try it myself now if I can actually get some garage space at my dad's place for a little bit.
FUNKOfilms its not hard, just take your time
@@Jursaw I was planning on just having a good shop do it and eat the cost but I'm having trouble finding any shops anywhere near me that work on these. I'm definitely gonna be checking out some of those tools in your description too.
@@FUNKOfilms For sure, not many shops work on these cars because they aren't common.
This takes me back. It's hard enough doing the job without making videos and comments etc. and all outdoors and sometimes in the dark. Respect. Well done Jursaw.
Thank you!
i was enjoying watching all tour videos keep up the good work ..
Can't wait until it's fixed, you definitely deserve to finally be able to drive it ❣️
Me too, it has been too long!
Ha. Ya she's rough but you are doing a hell of a job of cleaning everything up and leaving shit infinitely better than you found it. Previous owner obviously gave zero fucks. I'm glad she's in good hands now. Love the vids man. I know you're learning a lot as you go but you're a smart dude and a great source for the rest of us! #Following
Chris Griswold Thanks, unbelievable how anyone would just not care about this car.
Love your videos and hope you keep making more. I have a 1991 3000gt vr4 twin turbo. It has been hibernating in my garage for 12 years so maybe i will get the courage to try and get it running.lol.
I will as long as I have the car, you should get it running
"hibernating" i like that one
these vr4 videos are dope man you should look into buying cheap vehicles that need fixing and fixing them up! you got a nice channel going here
Thanks man! I really would like to do that and show people if I can do it, so could they
Keep the good work @Jursaw .. I saw that you did the compression test on
the 1-3-5 cylinders but not on the other bank.
When Tavarish took one of the rear spark plugs, it was soaked in water. I
am still following your videos but i am afraid this car will need a
head gasket you might need to do all this work all over again. I hope
this is not the case though!
Good work man. I've done all the things you've done so far so feel the nostalgia :D
Now I have a whole spare parts car on the side(93 "Beckenbauer edition" :D ) which I'm taking out the Engine and building a forged monster :O Maybe I'll start putting up some vids too. Inspiring watching others like you!
You should post some videos and thanks!
good work pal,love u to change my stealth water pump
Thank you, its not that bad
Great vid man. It reminds me when I used to fix my stealth TT years back.
Erik Quezada Nice, all this is new to me
Just got a 95 SL. Thanks bro.
Don't be bummed brother. You're on the home stretch! Make sure to hit eBay for an ecu!
Will be ordering decals from you here very soon!
Ryan DeClue I am going to & looking forward to it!
Keep it up man. You are close to fixing this thing, I can tell. Maybe you can open up the ECU and check it out. Perhaps the pins need to be re-soldered inside.
John Parent I might try to do that because I changed the capacitors myself & I thought it was fixed
It can't hurt man. Worst case scenario, you're out an ECU, which If this ones bad, you're no worse off anyway.
That is true
I feel your pain. I had a 1993 300zx TT complete pain to work on. It would be fixed one second then break the next. Drive for a month be broke for a month. These types of cars are money pits once they get some age on them.
Terry Mills Yeah, I just hope I figure it out soon so I can at least get to drive it
damn happen to have a couple extra working ecu but they for gen 2 not gen one...man if u do replace the ecu n get it running have an electical shop check out the ecu to ensure it all working.
265308 Damn, if only they could be swapped over but I will find one eventually
You probably know this by now but it is a known fact that the capacitors on the earlier model ecu's were defective and would leak on to the circuit boards causing miss fires and such... Me and a friend of mine both had to have our ecu's replaced for this. Caused miss fire on both of our cars.
OMG I'd be so pissed if I found the oil filter cross threaded like that. That RUclipsr you got this from said he did the oil change too lol.
Zach Dubs Yeah he was very discreet about it lol never thought it could be done
gotta snag a new gasket....ide hate to have to go back in that deep to change something you were already that far into. Good luck! i hope the gasket holds up.
So far no leaks!
You make this look easy
Hang in there brother!
Thanks, I will until the engine blows up haha
MAN, I WISH U WOULD OF CLEANED UP THAT BACKING PLATE TO THE WATER PUMP A BIT BETTER! I WOULD OF SMOOTHED THE ROUND SHAFT THAT APPEARS TO GO INTO THE BLOCK. IDA SANDED IT W/1500 GRIT SANDPAPER. ALTHO, IM GLAD YOUR FIXING THAT VR4!!!! IL BE WATCHING!!! DID U USE ANY VASOLEEN OR ANY TYPE OF LUBE ON THE O-RINGS? COULD BE A SICK SUPERCAR!!!! REBUILD THAT MOTOR & UPGRADE THE TURBO'S,INTERCOOLERS, & THE DOWNPIPE EXSPECIALLY!!!!!!(+15-HP JUST BY UPGRADING TO A BIGGER SIZED DOWNPIPE.) SO IVE HEARD? I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ALL YOU DO TO THE VR4!!!! COULD BE DAMB QUICK & HANDLE GREAT AS WELL!
4:07- "I'm going to align the timing sprockets with the crank and route the belt through now."
4:09- "I have the belt on and the sprockets are aligned, here is my easily spinning hydraulic tensioner pin too."
YEAH THANKS THE FUCK ALLOT YOUR VERY INFORMATIVE EXPLANATION OF HOW TO DO THAT.
Benjamin Taylor Follow the factory service manual because It took me like 4 times until I finally got it right
I have multiple versions of with the FSM.
SO, it seems like the straightforward steps are:
1. Set the Crank sprocket timing divit BACK (retarded) by 3-4 teeth (peaks) from the oil pump's timing mark.
2. Align the Front bank Cam sprockets with the corresponding valve cover timing mark, using timing cover bolts to steady and hold the sprockets still, and DEAD ON synced up.
3. Set the Crank sprocket to one tooth (1 peak) before the timing mark on the block/oil pump.
4.Place the belt on starting with the front bank Cam sprockets, using clips or something to hold the belt onto the Cam sprocket, still synced with it's mark.
5. Route the belt around the water pump, pull taught on the belt and place on the rear bank intake cam sprocket as its still aligned with it's timing marks. Clip it to hold steady
6. Place the belt on the rear most Cam sprocket, with a little or tiny degree retarded to clockwise rotate the sprocket and make the belt taught.
7. Route the belt down and over the first tensioner pulley
8. Set the hydraulic Tensioner pulley with it's two 'eyes' Vertical and the belt slides fairly easily onto the Crank sprocket and Hydraulic tensioner pulley.
9. Using the B.S. 3SX aluminum 1/4 bit tensioner tool, rotate the pulley until the slack in the belt is gone, then tighten the pulley bolt to hold it in place.
10. Remove the timing cover bolts used to steady the Cam sprockets.
11. Rotate clockwise on the Hydraulic tensioner pulley until the point of floppy looseness in the grenade pin. Then Tighten the pulley bolt up until it begins to rotate the whole pulley, Hold the pulley steady or countering it to secure the pulley bolt and using the looseness and spinning of the grenade pin as a gauge.
12. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes, then check the grenade pin for looseness, check that every sprocket is still dead on it's timing and rotate the engine a few (20,000) times to be sure sure nothing clashes, let it sit for a bit, double check, rotate the engine a few more times, then a third and final check on everything.
The one tooth back on the crank didn't make sense to me but I followed that and after I rotated the engine once and letting it sit, all the marks lined up. The one tooth back is to help take up the slack of the belt once you rotate it.
Hey Fam, I was out of line and you dont deserve that kind shit attitude. to explain my behavior, I was/am very frustrated with completing this job and needing my car rolling again. Still doesnt excuse my shityness. I fucked up. Also my VR4 might be worse then yours soooo. /S
Your video is still helpful though, seriously. I hope my distilling of the directions is accurate and follows your video in helpfulness.
Don't sweat it, I too was very fed up with aligning the marks it not working out properly. I left it and came back to it and withing 10 minutes I got it. That is the most annoying part of the job. I understand you have to get your car going again and if I was close I would help. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Castrol you killing me here!
ЕХИДНЫЙ Came sealed with the car so I can't complain!
Castrol is awesome oil
good work man dont give up on the car :) it will be fixed soon and u gonna have a awesome car to drive :D
TunerRepairs Team MadCats I won't give up on it
hey i just wanted to say thank.you that you are posting uo these videos and working on this car i bought the same car been dealing with it for awhile i did almost everything you have so far and im going threw it as well my mechanic thinks its ecu i got coil packs done too and still same thing i need to.change abit more things get the ecu as well and i wanna do that idle controler u changed i hope we both can get are cars going lol dont give up u really giving me hope for my car ill keep.u posted on mine if i figure it out as well im hoping it is the ecu but goodluck thank you again keep up the good work
Skeenaboy17 Thanks for your comment and open up the ECU & check everything to make sure its not burned. Don't forget to hit the bell icon next to my subscribe button to get a notification when I upload
Jursaw thank you ill check the ecu rigjt now while i have it half out i for some reason dont have a fast rev almost like the car is in safemode cant really go over 3000rpm i heard if it has a vacume leak it puts the car in safety mode and also i heard if ypu have a faulty spark plug wire we get this misfire that we both have seems like 1 or 2 cylinder not working proper i got new spark plug wires but i been told u can get faulty ones so maybe check ur wires as well amd ill click tge bell too thanks
another thing i seen a video of a guy having spark.plug wire half way out from the coils and it worked better maybe try that too
Stay tuned for the fix in tonights video! Check your IAC valve because mine didn't like to rev high before. It would just break up
Jursaw hey i just seen ur video u got it working !!!! was it just the ecu also iac valve ill forsure check but was it mainly just ur ecu? im super happy for u i.hope my car is going threw the same thing as u it seens just the exact same problems
I mean you should expect the Mitsubishi not working that instant after all that work. The thing is, they're not that reliable I suppose but in terms of replacing parts it would eventually work
hey man it seems like the engine is not getting enough ground make sure you clean them really good!
Carlos Arias I plan to put new ground cables and cable ends soon but thanks for your input
Jursaw the spark plugs the come already calibrated are really good too
I saw on eBay there is a repair and return service for $123 for the ECU
Lou D I saw that but you will see in my next video what I chose to do! Stay tuned!
If AZ checked your battery and it was fine, it is possible that the alternator is bad. Your battery may just be getting run down if it is not properly being charged by the alternator. Having low voltage in your car will create all types of strange electrical problems. A quick test is to check the voltage across your battery terminals with the car off and on. It should jump up when it is turned on. Also it should either stay the same or increase. If not your alternator is not getting charge to your battery.
Just fixed my honda and it turned out to be a rusty connection to my alternator. As rusty as your car is there are bound to be a few weak connections.
My voltage goes from around 12v to 14v as measured on the battery terminals after I start it.
The alternator charges my battery fine. Problem is when I work on this car and constantly start it up, the alternator doesn't run long enough to "charge" the battery long enough for the amount of power it used to start the car. To help out the battery, I took it out to charge it using a battery charger and when I put it back in, no lights or nothing, at first there was lights but they turned off and even a TEST light was dim when placed directly on the battery. The battery read 12.7v which is really good but couldn't even light up a small bulb in the test light. I have seen this problem before. My girl's moms car had no dash lights or anything but when we tried to jump start it, the car barely cranked. As soon as we removed the jumper cables, the car had no lights in the dash or anything but when I used my multimeter on the battery, it read 12.6v (different multimeter btw). Point is, just because it reads "12.6" or tests "good" in autozones case it doesn't mean the battery is good.
Jursaw 12.6v is at the bottom of what is acceptable. make sure your car is hitting around 14v when running. those bench chargers are usually pretty crappy. trust me these cars are very picky about having the right power.
12.6v is what it reads when the car is off. I plan to get new cable ends. Autozone employee just isn't educated enough.
i like the video but i wanted to see how u put the new belt and car on timing was really waiting for that part and u didnt record it
jvst20051 I had a hard time the first time trying so I got aggravated and didn’t record. Second time I tried i got it within 5 min and forgot to record 😔
So the timing belt was done on a 92 stealth I bought, that only had about 50 miles on it. The issue the car has been in storage for ten years, would it be prudent to do it again >?
buying a used one also a risk , if u plan to keep car for now better fix to garaunty that it will work for years
SMS570X That is a risk but I'm not sure of a company that can repair this. I have seen some ads on ebay that say they repair them. For now I will try a used one
Hey Jursaw. I appreciate this 3 part video big time! I have one complaint however and hopefully you or someone can help me. @ 4:10 you gloss over installing the timing belt. How did you keep the cams from moving off the arrows? Did you turn the motor over to top dead center via the crank (cylinder 1), and then position the cams. And how did you accurately line up the intake cam towards the back of the motor. That's the 3rd cam if you count from left to right. I can line up the first 2 cams with the dots and arrows, the 4th cam is hard, but doable, but that 3rd one doesn't have a clean line of sight to line the dot up with the arrow in the block. Any help from you or anyone else who's familiar would be GREATLY appreciated. I have a misfire and no acceleration similar to the symptoms of a bad maf sensor, but the maf sensor is good. And the car backfired...that's a clear indicator that the intake timing is off. Also while the car is running I pulled the spark plug wires out one by one to see which cylinders weren't firing... 1-3-5 weren't at all. Thanks again! I subscribed to your channel strictly off your initial video with this car. 👍🏽👍🏽 Side note...I have the base model 94 3000GT.
Hey buddy lool into about getting the newer ecu so you can tune it if you just go back to full stock the 91-93 ecu are not tuner friendly as the 95-99 as mine are hit me up if you need help as well if you can't find one I know I can get my hands on one for you for a great price and than can ship it to you for free bro.
Daniel Wingard I will let you know thanks, for now I want to get this car running
Daniel Wingard I have the same issue with my 1994 dohc na 3000gt it's missing till about 2500 or 3k and i think it's the ecu caps or so what can you get a new working one for?
@Rafael Mendiola yes it was and I purchased one from an ecu rebuilder from online and fixed the issue.
Bro at the very end of this video before you cut to the Toyota clip, the engine was making a grinding noise almost. My car is making the same noise, is it the ECU or is it to do with the steering pump fluid?
How did you make your intake manifold so shiny? What do you recommend to clean and shine it???
how did you line the cams at tdc after they went back
you probably messed up the valve you got to take off the cylinder head I saw you take off the timing belt the cam slapped
caps go bad in ecu I had this happen and replaced it with a chromed ecu. you can replace them if you want to
they were rated for 5 years and that's what I am battling now also. almost all electrical components have these shit caps in them so I have a bad ecs and ac unit currently and my ecu fried. acid leaks from the cap and shorts out the board and you get funky ass shit like me hahahaha
Nick Ladd yeah I replaced the caps but it was too late because the damage was already done
shitty!!! I have one that might be good if someone wants to do the work on it: the chromed one seems to be better since I have tactrix cable, ecuflash and evoscan
Yeah the chrome ones are better
Should have silicone on the seals before installing. Also should have replace the head plug gaskets while you had it all apart. Should have replaced the tensioner bolt and lock washer. You should have tested the hydraulic tensioner for 24 hours before installing the timing belt. You mentioned nothing about the proper valve positions before installing the timing belt. One should always read the owners manual.
tonkatoytruck I didn’t do everything by the book because I just wanted to get his thing running and on the road. The tensioner bolt looked fine and I know its a risk. That engine needs to get rebuilt and and resealed anyway. The tensioner was new so I didn’t bother which I know it could be a bad part still being new.
Tavarish didn't change the oil for the man......shame shame.
He said he did but I doubt it lol
Lie, lie, bad Tavarish
Hey buddy long time hey quick question how really bad was doing the timing belt on the vr4 and how long did it take you to do?
Do you remember why you disconnected the ECS computer in the rear hatch. I didn't see the purpose of doing that
Agent WK I believe the ECS computer could be harming the ECU. I pulled it from the car and some electrical components are indeed burned on the circuit board of the ECS computer. I will have to buy a good used one if I want to keep ECS
send ur ecu for remanufacture 3sx do them and get new ptu and coils at once
SMS570X Sending it out for repair is as costly as buying a used one but if I can't find a used one I will have to send mine out to get fixed
Jursaw consider just buying a Chrome ECU from 3sx. All new electronics and internals. I made that choice after having a fuel injector driver in the factory ECU start smoking up leading to the factory ECU failing. I had that factory ECU repaired by 3sx. Regardless I bought the chrome ECU, no problems with ignition since. Also once you finish doing some rewiring the ECU will be readable by an OBD II tool / link given.
www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=31190
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OCYXTYY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Keep working on the car brother, last miles are hardest, so they say. :)
I would like to but that is $750!
I know.. The AEM is over 1K.
worth more the car itself haha. I need something asap to get this thing running right
when i did the timing belt on my 6g72 in my triton i didnt tighten that bolt in the tensioner pulley and it slipped and recked the engine ;(
sigma1239 Ouch! That must have been a sad situation. Something this big you want to double check everything to make sure its tight!
Why did you disconnect the electronic suspension?
I don’t think I did, I don’t remember actually
dat tease. should have finish showing us the removal of the TOYOTA tailgate logo.
Alberto Carrasco it wouldnt come off haha i put a vinyl "TOYOTA" decal i made and it looks good now
wow i wanna see this Car Run maybe even modded in the future , then maybe the name would be best 3000gt instead of the worst 3000gt ?
AronElite GameDevelopment haha I hope so!
+Jursaw haha
Dude... did you just release all the Freon?
Never opened any part of the ac system
NEVER reuse the bolts that hold on the tensioner. Lots of other work you should have been done while you had the car apart. And using garbage after market parts is a big no no on these engines.
tonkatoytruck I knew that but I was just excited to get the car running again. I contacted the newest owner of this car and he replaced the engine while he is rebuilding this one.
Omg... that sump is so damn rusty 😂
Is there a way you can try to swap coil packs to test on the same cylinders to be sure it is the computer? It is real old and has over 250k miles right? My vw I said a few months back like 6 months ago had a bad coil pack electronics thingy. The coils where fine but the electronics where burned up in the 4/5 coils but others where fine so it sputtered and sounded strange. There a way you can try to get a used working coil or swap it somehow first? I know the ecu is very expensive usually. Watch out for people that comment saying your video and channel are awesome and they are just looking for a sub themselves. Good luck man. Also worried about rat poop in motor. Can you get one of those cheap iPhone or Android camera's that you can put in a cylinder and see if a piston has a hole in it or where you can see more inside the motor?
barry k. I put a whole set of used coil packs on that were working (at least what I was told) and still no spark in the 3/6 coil. I tested the coils before I put them on too and they tested okay. The car has 225K miles and I was going to look into those borescope cameras
Good thats good man. You spend so much money and run into so many issues each time. I would get a cam to see inside. Then what about pulling the oil pan off to see if any rat crap in the pan? Can get a good look inside. Save that new oil. Then do the camera. THEN try the ecm. Go less expensive parts first. Still good stuff. Learning alot too but after seeing that rat crap makes me think a rat got inside through the air cleaner and messed up the motor. Was the oil still clean after it ran a little after changing it or was it all gross?
I fix one thing then another thing fails haha. Oil came out consistently but who knows. I do plan to get another oil pan
Jursaw I noticed you disconnected the ECS computer. Down the road if the ECS seems to be failing and you have checked all the wiring from shocks to ECS computer and (OK).. Try this out, I ended up fixing a failing ECS computer issue with this new ECS computer..
renegadetechworks.com/
Good luck
That is a good alternative to fix it for good
Another ECU??? 😂
The car has come a long way from being a rat crap hole. keep it going!
Josh Devdoss I am trying!