Avocado Industry Secrets Your Supermarket Doesn't Want You to Know
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2023
- Your local market has you trained that there's only two types of avocado: the Hass and "Green". In fact the Hass is only one of hundreds of varieties each of which has it's unique and delicious characteristics. If you've ever tried a so called green avocado and didn't like it don't despair. There's hundreds of others out there.
Some are big, some small. Some a low in oil content some high. Some ripen in the spring, others in the summer and some in the fall.
It's time for the industry to add PLU codes to identify each of our wonderful varieties of avocado.
Get your Sleepy Lizard avocados at: www.guacfarm.com
was a little late with this vid due to hurricane Idalia. We were not in the cone but we got tons of rain and wind this week.
Delightful video! I'm happy that your trees are fine.
I sorry to hear that
@@anekabibitimpor4748 Thank you. We were not impacted by the storm but it made conditions so I couldn't film. Have you tried the Brogdan avocado?
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Yes i ve tried it ...do you?
Been watching you and your wife for awhile now and I love your videos I'm not in any tropical climate but I learn so much from the channel, thanks again!
thanks, I appreciate the support
And for that reason right there, that is why I want my own personal food forest. Cant get any fresher than that.
it's the best.
You got good info and you're right about the varieties of Avocados in the stores. Once my dad gave some Russells to my neighbors, and they took them to Texas on a trip. They had no idea Caribbean Avocadoes varied , just what you showed. Some oil guy actually starting asking foe cutting, seeds, if you let him he have bought the whole tree. My dad is like too cold in Dallas. Most of the county., all they know is Haas and some those frozen, tasteless green one at the stones. It's all about production and longevity for retail. People are missing out.
For me, olive oil and some salt that's all for me.
he was like the Johnny Appleseed of Russels 🤣
@@SleepyLizard Yep. LOL
Hi, you do good good vidoes! Love from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬!
Great information!
Thank you Cindy
Good very good. You do good videos! Love it too
I appreciate the compliment
Another informational and entertaining video!
thank you Living Life
Love your videos man. I'm in homestead too and I'm growing bananas, choquette avocados and dragon fruit in the backyard. I have a couple mango seedlings that I'm getting ready to graft and your videos have been really helpful.
Hi Karl, perhaps we will bump into each other some day. I'm trying to get some dragon fruit going but it's been slow
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Thanks to you, I now know there is a better life beyond the grocery store❤
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Had no idea, great video!
thank you Katarina
Awesome video!!❤
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Good video, love it too!
thank you Macaroni!
Great info. Those are some exotic looking avocados 🥑 We don’t get most of those varieties up here, mostly the two “Haas” types and the “Other” LOL. I can only imagine what the seeds look like on those tall varieties. Glad that hurricane passed you guys. Cheers from Ottawa, Canada 🍁
The seeds are as big as a whole Hass
14 species of avocado? My, my.... I've got some delicious exploring to do.
Hi Massive Cumshot, thanks for your comment. there's only one species of avocado: Persea Americana. Within the species you have cultivars also called varieties. These 14 are only a small fraction of the number of cultivars out there. a lifetime of exploring different varieties.
You do good so videos. Love it!
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@@SleepyLizard Good vidoes! Good vidoes!
I have a green skin [other] I started during winter, looks like a small palm now 2ft. hope all of you & plants are good!
everything good here. Yeah you gotta pinch the little star of new growth that starts at the top of the tree and it will start to branch out and thicken the stem or like you said you get that palm tree look
On the bright side of things, my avocados (most of them) are doing relatively spectacular! I transplanted and repotted several of them two days ago, even yesterday. No transplant shock whatsoever! Now that I still have half of the fungcide, I could use it for my avocados, basil and mint and etc.. My two best performing avocados, that I've been bringing them out fot the calm (wind
I like your long comments
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Yes, you do good good vidoeos
Thank you for sharing
you are welcome Richard
@@SleepyLizard you ever make avado oil
Sorry * avacado
@@JesseJ.Speigner I have not but with all the avocados I grow maybe that's something I'll try this year.
@@SleepyLizard people will pay for that for sure... me included
Thanks to you. I know the difference. With the mangos too. Our local store currently has the Keitt mango
Have you had a Keitt yet. They have such a dark orange delicious flesh.
@@SleepyLizard Not yet my brother. I'm waiting on them to ripen. They are so much bigger than the ones before. We got some other ones a while back. They were called mattika or something like that. They were pretty good and big also. Thank you for all the info you give us. You've educated me so much, I feel like I can graft a mango like Jorge now. 😃
Great educational video Sleeping Lizard, you made my mouth water describing the Brodigan avacado. Will more than likely purchase some of these avacados from you very soon!
@@markfalcon5949 thanks Mark
I’m in the Tampa Bay area and my local Publix had Keitt mangos in stock. Bought two of them and let ripen for a few days. Ate one last night and the other this morning. Absolutely delicious. I hope it becomes a trend that we start seeing other mango varieties in supermarkets that way I don’t have to grow them all myself (hoping my Pickering will produce next year). 😅
Never try the big one ... my bad ...love Tommy
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I’m always hoping I find a Black Prince or a Russel when I open up your boxes of avocados! Can’t wait to finally try one.
I didn't have any Russels this year which is why I planted a bunch. My other property that I leased got sold and the new owner plowed down all the avocado
That’s literally painful to read! The whole country is changing so much now that developers have bought everything up. Same thing is happening here in Texas.
I live in Mexico but avocados don't grow here. Two days ago I bough misterious variety of avocados but they were green, I will taste them tomorrow for the first time and I'm excited for it 😂
In the south of the country many homes have their avocado trees and they have their preferred trees in the neighborhood, every tree has different flavor. The Haas is for branch markets and export.
I hope it tastes good
My grandpa had a couple of avocado trees. One variety I remember and love is one that has very thin skin that's often eaten. It is delicious and I miss it. I wish I knew how to get some.
6:14 - Ah, I knew there was a sales pitch coming! I'd love to try some of those freaky avocados ... especially that purple-black one.
The purple black one is called a Brogdan. The skin is thin like an apple and you can eat right trough it. It is delicious!
So after watching...I ran down to Walmart...Haas and Fl avacados is what they had....and yes...the numbers were the same!!! I planted some trees...(Avacado and Mango) won't be ready for a while...so I'm ordering! 😁
that's so cool that you went and checked the PLU stickers. Do you happen to know what variety of avocado and mango you planted?
I LIVE IN CLEARFIELD CO PA.
I HAVE 9 AVACODO TREES IN MY HOUSE THEY ARE 3 YEARS OLD I VE STARTED MYSELF. ONE IS 7 FOOT DO I PRUNE. AS SOON AS THE TEMPS ARE 50 AT NITE I PUT THEM OUTSIDE. AND ONCE AGAIN I BRING THEM BACK IN LATE FALL BEFORE FROST
wow, that's great. You can prune them now yes.
A uniquely North American problem. In Australia our industry sells avocados under their own varietal names-Hass, Reed, Shepard, Bacon, etc, as do our nurseries.
You have some lovely varieties there!
thank you, yes here at the nurseries and farmer's markets they are labeled by variety but in the mainstream stories it's just Hass and Green
Yeah, I knew that trehe are hundreds of varieties of avocado, just like the apples that grow where I live in Bulgaria, that aren't true to seed, they are super diverse. But I haven't really imagined, that there are so many different sizes, shapes, tastes and even colors in the avocado industry. I've only seen like 4-5 varieties in the supermarkets (perhaps hass, green skin, reed and etc) The quantity of varieties of species really depends whether or not the fruit is true to seed. I have only a few potted avocados grown from seed in my apartment, about 10 and 1 mango, and also other plants, but they're not as important, although I try to keep them alive. I have one that has dead tip, but starting to break 6-7 buds, I won't remove most of them, if they start taking off, because it's my second ever to have ever gotten side shoots/branches and the stem is not even an inch tall🤣! Anyway, my point is that my avocados from seed could give me fruit, that is exquisite and sweet or they could give me fruit that's disguisting. Even though it's super duper unlikely, I'll try some that perform better to grow the not only as house plants, but to try to grow them, so that they'll eventually give me fruit. And I know it's possible that they can fruit indoors in climates that don't support them in my bedroom or kitchen (I'll put some of them in my balcony when it's calm and warm like in summer).
wow, you really like a challenge
grow a reed, don't waste your time on a hass.
@@WebSurfingIsMyPastime I think my oldest original avocado tree (that's 2 years old) is a reed variety, but it could perhaps be a greenskin, I don't think it's a hass, at least I hope so. I have other avocados, obviously, but they're younger, and I'm certain, that not every one of mine are a hass variety. It's relatively unlikely, that any of them are Fuerte.
One thing I've been wanting to ask you about grafting, what do you think of double grafting? I have noticed that some seeds do very well in our local conditions and some hate it. We have some very healthy seedlings and I have been wondering if should try air layering it to copy that generic material as my rootstock instead of the lottery of seeds as root stock. I'd love to hear what you think, thanks, Mark
We have the same issue here with seeds and we just plant way more than we need. As for your idea to get predictable rootstock from air layering I don't know the answer but I'd say give it a try.
The downside will be that air layered clones take longer to develop a root system than a seedling does so I don't know how much energy they'll have to be able to heal a graft.
@@SleepyLizard My dad used to Air Layer gigantic Bernaker avocados. They took a lot longer to root and fruit.
Looking to pick a tree for late seasion . Can not wait to try your sample box for fall. When is a good time to order one?
Hi Aregli, right around Halloween I have a few varieties available. Thank you for asking. Monroe, Hall, and Lula are excellent late season.
Today I bought some new soil for citrus fruit, but also works for other fruits like avocados. And I bought a liquid 5:5:7 fertilizer, it's notlike 6:6:6 or 10:10:10, but still close enough. Anyways I repotted one of my avocados and afetr I pulled it out of its original pot or bucket I should say ( I made a mess, I shook the bucket at least 10 times before it came out) and there were so many roots, I was mind-blown. Noq he will have much more space, but I have to be careful when watering it,after all, I don't want any root rot.
yeah they really produce a lot of roots
I wanted to ask, if i plant both a Hass avocado (female) and a Fuerte (male) and wait wait for them to flower - will it be possible it to transfer the pollen from the Fuerte to the Hass and create a sort of a Hass x Fuerte hybrid that will (hopefully) taste good?
avocados don't have male and female tree. Each avocado flower has a male phase and a female phase. the timing of those phases depends on the trees flowering type, either A or B.
this vid explains it: ruclips.net/video/Sgm-7wHT8K0/видео.htmlsi=cGuS5TPEDRuuFkoU
I have heard that there are more than a half dozen different avocado cultivars which are labeled as Hass for retail sales. Where I live, the difference is in pricing. California avocado costs the most, then followed by Mexico, and now Peru.
I was not aware of that
Could I ask you where you get your pots like the one you have on the table there?
you ask a very good question. I try to reuse as many as I can because lately I've only been able to find them by the pallet and I'll never use a pallet full. it's like 10,000 pots. I used to get them at Diamond R in lots of 500 or 200 but they don't have them small lots anywhere anymore.
I need to pass by and give you a couple of mine from my tree I promise you’ll love them. I’m local. I’d love to meet you!.
my contact info is in the "about" section of the channel. send me a text or email. we can set something up
Hey Tom do you ever grow any soursop cherimoya or other Annonas down there ??? Thx
I don't but lot's of people here do and they are delicious!
Tom , I live in zipcode 86440 every avocado i try to grow dies. Wind or heat? Ive used shade cloth and still the same thing. Any recommendations?
gosh I don't know. you are in the right growing zone. are you putting them in the ground or in pots?
03:30 Florida Varieties
What are your favorites?
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Sits here in the UK muttering to myself about the tiny avocados we get, instead of the beautiful huge ones you have lol
I've heard there's some avocado cultivation in the far southwest of England but I have no confirmation.
@@SleepyLizard It would be great if that's the case. I'll see if I can find out anything about it!
I would like to plant buttery sort. Which one would this be.?😂❤😊
Russell or Lula
Will you ever sell grafting stock again? I would really like to buy some
I won't be getting back into that, each state has it's own regulations and its too much for a small operation to keep up with
In my country, Jamaica, where avocados grow wild, i have never seen or taste any two avocado trees that have the same fruits.
Unfortunately, i haven't had a "good" avocado since I've been living in the USA for 16 years.
The same also goes for most fruit trees on the island, almost every plant carries its own unique fruits.
And I bet you call them pears right? 🤣
Trying to grow from seed... bought two organic Haas from store to plant and will prob order 1-2 from you do try the same.
I just got one to fruit from seed this season...9 years.
Im sure most andovados for comercial are grafts. I was told they use desiel smoke to speed up the ripening when they are picked to early.
Really? I never heard that about the smoke. The carbon monoxide???
Hey Tom, any plans on putting a few beehives on your property? I'm wondering if would boost your production.
I toy with the idea sometimes.
Hey Tom, have you ever tried growing some California varieties of avocados like the Pinkerton, Nabal, Zutano, or a Jan Boyce? I talked to another RUclipsr named Carlos from the GraftingAvocados channel and he said he tried those but the taste was off and they didn't seem to do well here. I am going to try that myself because I'm finding it hard to swallow that a Guatemalan avocado like a Nabal would only do well in California and not in Florida. Any wisdom to share on that?
Hass have a hard time here in florida because there's fewer leaves on the trees and our sunlight is too strong here. The varieties that do well here tend to have a lot of large leaves. Toward the end of July you'll see yellow patches where Simmonds start to get sunburn, their leaves are somewhat sparse too.
My friend grows a Zutano in his front yard and it does well.
@@SleepyLizard I agree on the Hass... mine come out small and chunky sometimes. I'm about to cut that sucker down and replace it with something else. I'm still going to give it a try. The sun should be shining a lot stronger in Guatemala!
Hello! I live in Virginia and on February 5th 2023, I decided to try growing an avocado tree. It worked, I have a tree. How can I keep it alive through the winter? I can bring it inside. Do you think it will survive in Central Virginia?
Congratulations. Yes, in Virginia you'll need to bring it indoors during the winter.
I'm expecting a new video over the next 24 hours! Probably about mangoes or avocados, hopefully another banger or classic!
By the way, my mango is still dying from root rot and spider mites, I really need to buy hydrogen peroxide asap, cuz don't have one.
New vid next week.
@@SleepyLizard Monday perhaps?
@@user-ur6gy4gm4b not sure yet. sometimes I go into a quiet mode 🤣
I live in zone 10 southwest Florida. I have mucho avocado trees growing from critters spreading seeds around the yard from my compost bin. I am going to end grafting them because I know they won't grow true to variety. I am going to graft mucho varieties.
excellent plan
Good morning when will you have a avocado tasting,Moved from New York to Port Saint Lucie and I need a tree but I like them buttery and sweet not dry but do not know what to get any idea which I should get and if so do you sell the tree
Good idea for next summer
Hi… do you still have some of the Haitian mango left and your sleepy lizard mango. I wanted to buy some from you
sorry, we are all done with mango for the year
Hi man ! Do you send grafted trees to Romania?
I do not. sorry
Sir please can you answer this ....if we plant avocado branch in the ground can it be producing fruit in early too ?
yes but it takes longer to mature
@@SleepyLizard can it be mature in 4,or 5 years
yes about that amount of time.
Kool… I’m still waiting for a pineapple flavored Avocado …
one of these days
Where can I get a seed/kernel of the "gigant greenskins" that are on your table?
do you mean the long necked ones?
Today was the first day I brought two of my best looking avocados outisde on the balcony. I waited for the temps, winds and weather to be perfect. The winds were relatively calm peaking at 10 mph perhaps, but this evening the winds got stronger ( I don't have a big problem with strong winds, but the avocados are just not used to it) probably moderate peaking at 20-25 mph, I could hear them howl slightly and even whistling. So they will be inside again, the forecast says it will be windy tomorrow. I just really want them to start putting height and thicken their trunks. As well as strengthening up. Because I mean like come on, let's be honest, 90 cm or 3 feet in 2 years, that's a little pathetic for an avocado, but I'm still proud of my avocados, even though I've had some losses.
that's good progress. probably in a small pot
@@SleepyLizard One of them is in a huge pot, I can barely lift the avocado up. I've heard that some pots do have wheels. But regardless, I shouldn't have repotted my avocado from 1 gallon to probably 10 or 12 gallon pot, it did get root rot in February and a little slower, but still consistent root rot this spring, but 2 months ago, the avocado started growing rapidly, before it slowed down in August, but the root rot is much less concerning. My avocados grow irregularly. But I really loved it when two months ago my avocado grew 10 leaves in one set.
How do your avacado trees survive in full sun? My trees are in large pots and I had to put them where they only get morning sun because they were burning . I even had to cover them with shade cloth.. What am I missing?
What variety do you grow?
Lila, haas, Joey and one that starts with an f maybe??
Hi, i am interested in buying some varieties branches for crafting on rootstock seedlings. How do I get in touch with you. Thanks
Hi Luis, I don't sell cuttings but it's my understanding they are sometimes available on Pinterest and eBay
So it's no wonder that avocados from supermarket seeds don't necessarily taste good, they're hybrid fruits if they're from Haas trees pollinated by another variety.
What would you call a very small avocado with Haas type dark and textured skin? My friend has them in Costa Rica, from grafted branches. They're some of the best ones I've ever eaten.
check out my vid on the unique flowering habits of avocado trees. the fruit is not effected by pollination, only the seed inside it. the reason supermarket avocados don't taste is good is because they are chilled to extend shelf life and that makes them watery.
I'm not sure what avocado your friend has.
What variety of avocados are you currently shipping?
Hi Jeff, we have a few Simmonds and Miguel left then switching to Choquette
@@SleepyLizard So if I order a box, you just send whatever you have at the moment? Or is there a choice on your site?
Do they go out and graft a known o to , a percentage Tage of the whole tree, a mature wild tree, and they don't go 100 percent cause it might harm the tree if it's all at once? Then they sell all they can harvest ?
no, we graft a cutting from a known variety onto a seedling.
Oh man, my whole country has only 4 varieties. Does anyone here know where to buy scions of all of these in the EU in affordable prices?
what varieties do you have?
@@SleepyLizard hass, fuerte, bacon and one which I don't know by name, it's green skin, bigger than a fuerte and rounder.
@@TropicalGardeningCyprus those are good varieties I must admit
@@SleepyLizard bacon and fuerte are nice, but it's just like with mango, you can't eat just one or two, you wanna try more and more.
Yesterday I went out to look for hydrogen peroxide, but didn't find any. Then I went to a small shop, it was mainly for plants. I brought my almost dead mango and the expert decided to check the mango and cut the tip of the bottom remaining root and it was yellow and still slightly green from inside, so he told me there was still a chance. But today my mango's stem is practically black, but no mold, as the expert told me. While I was still there he offered me a fungicide for my other plants (mainly avocados and future avocados) and I washed the roots of my mango with the (deluted) fungicide. I still can't believe how quickly this mango is deterioating, just 5 days ago, it didn't look that great, but still had its leaves and now it's a black stick (the bottom is still a bit green). I think it's time to accept the fact that my first attempt is gonna fail, but I'm not giving up on it yet! The bottom half is green, the inner layers of the remaining root are pale, and the base is quite ridgid or solid, you never know, the mango might surprise us. Do you think the mango is gonna make it?
sounds like the mango might not make it . 😢
I have an avocado tree but it has no fruit
I cut down a 10 years old tree before and grown a new tree 15 years old now but still no fruit.
Do you know why?
I heard ppl saying that need to grow 2 trees.
it takes over 10 years for a seed grown avocado tree to produce fruit. Sometimes 20.
This tree I got it from Home Depot, not from a seed.
People said have to grow 2 trees A and B so they can pollinating
Is that true?
@@dho1665 A and B makes for better pollination but it's not necessary. Avocados self pollinate
However, I'm a bit heartbroken that my mango is dying and probably not gonna make it. The stem is still green, but quite twisted, the one remaining leaf is completely dry and dead, most of the roots are rotten, other than part of the main root. When I started thinking about polyembryonic seeds, the mango started ding. Maybe it's a sign that I should try growing only or generally polyembryonic mangoes. Nut I still hope for a miracle.
dang, sorry to hear that.
Do tyou grow gem avocados
I do not and it's my understanding that for GEM you need a licensing agreement but I could be wrong.
All look the same to ME.
when was your last visit to the eye doctor?
Fuertes are smooth green skin fruits never pebbly.
yeah I wasn't sure what variety that green one is
@@SleepyLizard here in California they have several offsprings of the Hass that they are pushing which have the pebbly skin..most turn black but one or 2 are green. Also differently shaped.
After a few days of trying to remove the spider mites, I messed up rel bad with the mango. Now the mango looks absolutely abysmal! It only has one leaf, still green. But when I watered it more a few days ago, it started wilting and the remaining leaf is extrmely droopy. And now the stem is sttarting shrivel or twist. There was a black spot on the base of the mango between the root and stem where the seed was after I removed it, but it looks as if it's grown and I think there's mold. I think I severly overwatered it. I'm gonna buy or at least look for a spray in the shops, you know, pesticides. But I'm very worried, I... I don't want the mango to die. I'm gonna check the roots and see how they are, but I'm scared that there will be a lot of root rot, it hasn't drunk much water and the soil looks as if there are pathogens or some kind of rot in it. Wish me luck!
Good luck
I was doing reading on GMO products and the point was made that bacteria and plants ... and who knows what else ... carry the genes for all kinds of stuff, and when you breed them you never know what genes could be activated. The point was that when you mess around with the genetics as happened with a species of bacteria that was bred, genetically engineered, to produce L-trypophan by the Japanese company Showadenko they can kick in genes that produce proteins that are deadly. It's probably not likely but it seems like it might be possible for very minutes traces of proteins to be present in foodstuffs that we eat and unless it is a clone or a very domesticated plant it's possible to have toxic effects. What do you think of that? Have you ever heard of any wild avocados that made people sick when they ate them?
No, I've never heard of any wild avocados that make people sick but I've tried a few that made me gag from the flavor.
Would be extremely interested in getting a couple of each variety. But not interested in the store brand Avocados.
it's great to sample the different kinds
And the grocery stores are introducing the gates gmo avocados…
That’s not true. There are a lot of myths surrounding GMO. Currently there aren’t any GMO avocados. In fact, there are surprisingly few crops that are GMO.
@@SleepyLizard your correct not gmo , but a type of modification to the skin .
The experts at Apeel Sciences have invented an edible coating derived from plant materials like grape skins that they claim doubles the shelf life of the average avocado. "Made from the same materials found in every bite of fruit we eat, Apeel adds a little extra protection to the fruit’s skin so that it stays fresh and delicious longer, which lessens the likelihood of you having to throw your avocados away," Michelle Masek, head of marketing, told Forbes. The best part? These avocados don't cost any more than untreated ones.
@@Enoch-Gnosis interesting. Thanks for the information.
Last few Avacados that I have bought, have been rotten.
yeah it's a common problem with avocados
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I thought the first number on the sticker indicates wether the produce is organic, full of chemicals, or genetically modified. If the number on the sticker begins with 9 = organic, 4 = chems, 3 = gmo
Yes, organic would have a different code. You're right.
Basically you have the Haas and the Haas not
Round black one is best
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i hate to break it up but i might be done with youtube
No!!!! why?
@@SleepyLizard its just i'm sick and tired of being told my content is very personal
@@frostylonewolf1700 who's telling you that?
@@SleepyLizard someone on instagram
@@SleepyLizard at this point idc what ppl think i can't please everyone
At Food Lion they call the big green avocados "Dominican avocados". Theirs are usually very bland and wet inside so I quit buying them.
yes the imports are chilled and often picked too early and don't taste good.
I’ve recently started having a pallet for avocados! I would try them as a kid and hated it but loved the color since my favorite football team is the Green Bay packers! Haha. Long story short after trying different varieties, the Dominican avocados are bland in flavor and is too oily.