Damn guy you nailed it!!! I had the exact same symptoms with my jet pump and I pulled up the pipe and had the same hole in the same place. 😊 Thanks for posting neighbor.
I have a pump with two pipes that lead to an assembly sort of like this. Something is disintegrated and there is a rather large hold right before the assembly. Can I buy the entire assembly someplace? I dont know what disintegrated enough to buy just that. I can provide email with pictures or video to get advice. Whatever is needed.
I have this same setup at 100'. I lose prime when I drain the water pressure off to change my sediment filter. Pump doesnt seem to run when not using water like its losing prime during normal operation. Would I be able to pull my 100' drop pipe by hand to replace the foot valve?
I don't recommend anyone try to pull a jet, there are to many things that can go wrong. If the pipe gets hung up, breaks off, falls down you will play hell. When it completely fails and leathers rot its easy to pull out as just a pipe. You should hire a company as they will have some special tools needed sometimes to get the job done. Thanks for the comment and watching.
Ok. I'm a well guy. Never worked on one of these. Hot everything pulled out. U only had a foot valve. Nothing inside the the packer. It jet assy.. what do you think
Not sure how to answer your questions, but Yea it was very difficult to get out the well. When they get stuck you have to use a clamp on the pipe and a jack like for a jeep to pull straight up with lots of force. There were 4 leather seals and only one standard foot valve inside the assembly. I removed and replaced with just two leathers and a screw on foot valve on the end.
I’m from Denham springs and we have a similar setup at my camp in Vidalia, La. Where can I buy parts for a setup like this? Anywhere in Baton Rouge area?
Yes a deep well jet pump is used to lift water and build pressure from ~20' and up too around 150' they can do more but need special jets. Try to stay with a 1hp single stage deepwell pump as they use less power. If you had a bigger 4" Casing a submersible pump like a grundfos uses very little power and have soft start ability. They are very good for off grid use on solar.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell I’m in the same situation I have a 2” casing at 25 ft I hit water and it goes all the way to 60 ft I’m looking for a pump but don’t know which one will work out if you can point out I will really appreciate it .
I have a 2" casing with a FloTec 4432 jet pump. It has the Sta Rite J216-21 adapter. It won't prime so I need to pull the drop pipe. I have no experience in pulling a drop pipe. How do you get started in pulling the drop pipe? It looks like you have a bumper jack that you used? I'm assuming you remove the pump and jack against the adapter? Does it ruin the adapter?
I only have to use the jack in situations where the jet is stuck in the well. If it won't prime its probably bad foot valve or leathers. You need to be really careful and need someone to help you. Once you start pulling you can't stop without a clamp or risk dropping it in the well. Disconnect the pump and or pipes from the adapter, then twist and lift it up a foot or so and clamp it off. Remove the adapter from the drop pipe, recommended to unthread it. Then pull drop pipe you need to support the pipe about 15' in the air with a tree limb or roof. Or someone can catch and hold a arch in the pipe to prevent it from breaking at the joints. I usually recommend cutting and replacing the drop pipe if it's really old or has small couplings on it. These can break easily and if you lose the jet in the well its GG! After you get it out check jet for damage to casting like holes or heavy rusting, should be replaced if not cleaned smooth. Changing the foot valve and leathers is normal service every 10 years or so depending on water condition. Good luck, and thanks for the comment and watching! Casey
@@ClearWaterPumpWell Since I didn't have a limb or anything to use, I decided to have a guy with a truck pull the drop pipe. The casing appears to be 96' and the static water is at 11' from the surface. There was only one stick of galvanized pipe with the jet at the bottom with a check valve (like the setup in your video). We poured water down the casing and it didn't completely fill it up, but it did rise in the casing. The well guy said that is an indication that the well is bad. He said it might work to put a stick of schedule 80 on the bottom of the jet (He said the jet looked good just replaced the leathers and cleaned it) and put a new foot valve at the bottom of the tailpipe and sent it back down the casing. Unfortunately, like before, the pump will only pump a small volume of water (like a crimped garden hose). He said it might be a screen well and it might work to pressurize the well casing with air using a high, high volume air compressor and if the screen is clogged, it could blow the screen out and cause the volume to increase. Are you familiar with this technique and is it worth even attempting? He said it would probably not work, but may be worth a try. For a number of reasons, I would prefer not to drill a new well. Am I just out of luck?
@@adamdavis7069 Oh shoot I missed your reply! If the well takes water it usually gives water. That's a pretty shallow well but could be weak like they say and having a deep well pump with just and extention tube on the end suggests it could be failing. Blowing the well with an air compressor can help free the screen and also pumping a big tank of water at force down can free the screen. If the pump will not build down hold pressure and develop over 5 Gpm the well is too weak and time to drill a new one!
No, but have seen rubber leathers before. It's best that they rot away after some time so you can get the jet out of the well. If it stays in the well for too long it can get stuck from rust or sand. Leathers usually last 5-10 years plenty long enough and need service. The foot valves wear out also so needs to be changed at the same time.
I gotta do this tomorrow morning and I have an orientation to go to the following day. Wish me luck or I'll be bathing under the howey bridge at 4:00 am Wednesday morning.
Make sure to prime and check regulator pressure first. Don't pull a jet just because you think, be sure or else you could have more problems. The parts are also hard to get depending on where you live. Thanks for the comment and watching, Casey
@@ClearWaterPumpWell I turned the valve off supply going too all from the tank going too house. It's going back into the well..must be a check valve.its going back in the well. Bad jet system.all pressure from the tank to the house is turned of.pump still runs.
They have to be pulled by hand after removing the pump and casing adapter. Not something a homeowner should be doing, messing up can cause huge problems. Just showing problems that cause issues you can't see or know why.
How do you properly prime this single pipe system ? We've been connecting a hose to our jet pump(it has a faucet), but the pressure pops up the casin after a while. We leave the faucet open to let air out while priming (a different faucet that is on the end of the line), but we still have that problem with casin popping out
Usually you want to prime the pump filling from the regulator valve on the side of it. There should be a gauge that you take off depending on the style or brand of pump to Prime from. Backfilling from a hose usually means that you're having a really hard time and possibly the leathers or foot valve is leaking. The water should fill up to the top and stay there if it's Primed correctly and nothing's wrong. I wouldn't recommend a homeowner try to pull their own jet you should call a company to do that repair as its very costly if you mess up.
@@ClearWaterPumpWellThank you for taking the time and answering. In short we replaced the worn out leathers. prime it correctly and it works. Now we have water again ! Thank you
Damn guy you nailed it!!! I had the exact same symptoms with my jet pump and I pulled up the pipe and had the same hole in the same place. 😊 Thanks for posting neighbor.
Very informative! This is nice to show a client what to expect when pulling the jet package...
Thanks, take care.
Thanks for sharing!
I have a pump with two pipes that lead to an assembly sort of like this. Something is disintegrated and there is a rather large hold right before the assembly. Can I buy the entire assembly someplace? I dont know what disintegrated enough to buy just that. I can provide email with pictures or video to get advice. Whatever is needed.
Oh sorry I missed your comment dang hurricane.... hope you got it fixed!
can the hole be patched with epoxy?
I have this same setup at 100'. I lose prime when I drain the water pressure off to change my sediment filter. Pump doesnt seem to run when not using water like its losing prime during normal operation. Would I be able to pull my 100' drop pipe by hand to replace the foot valve?
I don't recommend anyone try to pull a jet, there are to many things that can go wrong. If the pipe gets hung up, breaks off, falls down you will play hell. When it completely fails and leathers rot its easy to pull out as just a pipe. You should hire a company as they will have some special tools needed sometimes to get the job done.
Thanks for the comment and watching.
Ok. I'm a well guy. Never worked on one of these. Hot everything pulled out. U only had a foot valve. Nothing inside the the packer. It jet assy.. what do you think
Not sure how to answer your questions, but Yea it was very difficult to get out the well.
When they get stuck you have to use a clamp on the pipe and a jack like for a jeep to pull straight up with lots of force. There were 4 leather seals and only one standard foot valve inside the assembly. I removed and replaced with just two leathers and a screw on foot valve on the end.
I’m from Denham springs and we have a similar setup at my camp in Vidalia, La. Where can I buy parts for a setup like this? Anywhere in Baton Rouge area?
You should be able to find them at a local hometown hardware, not homedepot or similar chains.
Will this system work with water around 60' deep? Trying to figure out an off grid system that will work with a 2" well casing. Thanks.
Yes a deep well jet pump is used to lift water and build pressure from ~20' and up too around 150' they can do more but need special jets.
Try to stay with a 1hp single stage deepwell pump as they use less power.
If you had a bigger 4" Casing a submersible pump like a grundfos uses very little power and have soft start ability. They are very good for off grid use on solar.
@@ClearWaterPumpWell I’m in the same situation I have a 2” casing at 25 ft I hit water and it goes all the way to 60 ft I’m looking for a pump but don’t know which one will work out if you can point out I will really appreciate it .
I have a 2" casing with a FloTec 4432 jet pump. It has the Sta Rite J216-21 adapter. It won't prime so I need to pull the drop pipe. I have no experience in pulling a drop pipe. How do you get started in pulling the drop pipe? It looks like you have a bumper jack that you used? I'm assuming you remove the pump and jack against the adapter? Does it ruin the adapter?
I only have to use the jack in situations where the jet is stuck in the well. If it won't prime its probably bad foot valve or leathers. You need to be really careful and need someone to help you. Once you start pulling you can't stop without a clamp or risk dropping it in the well. Disconnect the pump and or pipes from the adapter, then twist and lift it up a foot or so and clamp it off. Remove the adapter from the drop pipe, recommended to unthread it. Then pull drop pipe you need to support the pipe about 15' in the air with a tree limb or roof. Or someone can catch and hold a arch in the pipe to prevent it from breaking at the joints. I usually recommend cutting and replacing the drop pipe if it's really old or has small couplings on it. These can break easily and if you lose the jet in the well its GG!
After you get it out check jet for damage to casting like holes or heavy rusting, should be replaced if not cleaned smooth. Changing the foot valve and leathers is normal service every 10 years or so depending on water condition.
Good luck, and thanks for the comment and watching!
Casey
@@ClearWaterPumpWell Since I didn't have a limb or anything to use, I decided to have a guy with a truck pull the drop pipe. The casing appears to be 96' and the static water is at 11' from the surface. There was only one stick of galvanized pipe with the jet at the bottom with a check valve (like the setup in your video). We poured water down the casing and it didn't completely fill it up, but it did rise in the casing. The well guy said that is an indication that the well is bad. He said it might work to put a stick of schedule 80 on the bottom of the jet (He said the jet looked good just replaced the leathers and cleaned it) and put a new foot valve at the bottom of the tailpipe and sent it back down the casing. Unfortunately, like before, the pump will only pump a small volume of water (like a crimped garden hose). He said it might be a screen well and it might work to pressurize the well casing with air using a high, high volume air compressor and if the screen is clogged, it could blow the screen out and cause the volume to increase. Are you familiar with this technique and is it worth even attempting? He said it would probably not work, but may be worth a try. For a number of reasons, I would prefer not to drill a new well. Am I just out of luck?
@@adamdavis7069 Oh shoot I missed your reply! If the well takes water it usually gives water. That's a pretty shallow well but could be weak like they say and having a deep well pump with just and extention tube on the end suggests it could be failing. Blowing the well with an air compressor can help free the screen and also pumping a big tank of water at force down can free the screen. If the pump will not build down hold pressure and develop over 5 Gpm the well is too weak and time to drill a new one!
Where do you get your replacement leathers?
From a local pump supplier Wholesale Pump and Supply they are across the middle US. They don't sell directly to the public only to companies.
Hi, can replace leather for teflon or gum material?
No, but have seen rubber leathers before. It's best that they rot away after some time so you can get the jet out of the well. If it stays in the well for too long it can get stuck from rust or sand. Leathers usually last 5-10 years plenty long enough and need service. The foot valves wear out also so needs to be changed at the same time.
I gotta do this tomorrow morning and I have an orientation to go to the following day. Wish me luck or I'll be bathing under the howey bridge at 4:00 am Wednesday morning.
Make sure to prime and check regulator pressure first. Don't pull a jet just because you think, be sure or else you could have more problems. The parts are also hard to get depending on where you live.
Thanks for the comment and watching,
Casey
@@ClearWaterPumpWell I turned the valve off supply going too all from the tank going too house. It's going back into the well..must be a check valve.its going back in the well. Bad jet system.all pressure from the tank to the house is turned of.pump still runs.
How’d you get the jet out?
They have to be pulled by hand after removing the pump and casing adapter. Not something a homeowner should be doing, messing up can cause huge problems. Just showing problems that cause issues you can't see or know why.
How do you properly prime this single pipe system ? We've been connecting a hose to our jet pump(it has a faucet), but the pressure pops up the casin after a while. We leave the faucet open to let air out while priming (a different faucet that is on the end of the line), but we still have that problem with casin popping out
Usually you want to prime the pump filling from the regulator valve on the side of it. There should be a gauge that you take off depending on the style or brand of pump to Prime from. Backfilling from a hose usually means that you're having a really hard time and possibly the leathers or foot valve is leaking. The water should fill up to the top and stay there if it's Primed correctly and nothing's wrong. I wouldn't recommend a homeowner try to pull their own jet you should call a company to do that repair as its very costly if you mess up.
@@ClearWaterPumpWellThank you for taking the time and answering. In short we replaced the worn out leathers. prime it correctly and it works. Now we have water again ! Thank you