Hand Pump Well , off-grid, self-reliant water, everything you need to know
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- Here is everything you need to know about installing a hand pump well. How the pump works, what kind of pipe, what kind of couplers, how deep you can go etc......
If you want to be more self reliant with your own hand pump well here is the complete list of parts and the cost of each...wether its a cabin in the woods or an off grid shack, or even a family campsite a hand pump well might be your best option for water.
Here's the link to the well installation video.
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For years my old farm house no one lived in it but I went out there lots time in summer. Every year I would pay a plumber $60.00 year just to drain my pipes so would not freeze. Finally honest plumber came out and showed me cut water off going to house then open all faucets flush toilet and they would not freeze. I was so thankful to him.
No shame in that. Nobody knows everything and we all need help now and then. It's called being a human
@@357bullfrog9 exactly! Even though you can google the info in seconds and people are too stupid to do so, But yeah, no shame...lol
@@SooSmokie ...but you have to know what to Google, and to even realize there is something you should be googling! For instance, when smart phones were invented, you would never have thought to look for something you did not know existed - you had to hear about it first.
@@iamamish i mean you can google how to drain water lines in house and find multiple answers. I literally tought myself how to re-plumb my entire house in a week or so. It's really a matter of whether you can teach yourself something. It's really whether you're willing to learn or not. Some people just refuse to teach themselves something unless they have it put in plain terms for them
Honesty with integrity. Beautiful knowing some will give, expecting nothing in return.
I’ve been building a small homestead for a couple of years now. This is the most thorough, accurate, clear cut, informed, humble, and easy to understand tutorial I’ve ever watched. Not only well driving, but on any construction project. And I’ve watched hundreds of videos.
I’m also in medical school. For the love of God, could you please come in and teach a couple lectures on cardiac surgery?
Yes, what you said!!!
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I thought the same thing! Excellent instruction. Clear, smart, easy.
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I find it interesting that a prospective do tor wants to homestead. How did you come to that?
I'm a introvert also homesteading in NC , it was nice to meet you through this video.
Sycamore trees.... are a sign of water.... your video was the best advice! Thanks!
I honestly feel like l just attended an advanced college level class in well digging and maintenance. You sir are a natural born teacher! Thank you.
Well said. He's definitely good at relaying information.
So thankful for this. My wife and I are moving to our property this coming Tuesday. We have no water, no electricity. Thank you for making this. I am installing next week. I'll let ya know how it goes. 💪🙏
Well? How'd it go!? 😊
You guys have no idea how much y’all have changed our lives. Through your super instructional videos, we’ve gained the confidence to start doing things on our own and have since built two rooms, saved tons of money and are getting ready to implement a hand pump and who knows what else. I just want to say thank you so much to you and Brooke for your time.
Hey bro, I’ve read that steel galvanized pipe will have a lot of lead in it. Is this true or is that false. Installing one of these at home
This is one of the best RUclips tutorials I have ever watched.
You can buy a pipe driver. Look for the very heavy steel tee post driver. Don’t bother with the light weight ones. Mine is about 30 pounds but is longer than what you are using. At 14 feet I hit blue clay and it was pretty tough going until I broke through that at 20 feet. After that it was fairly easy. Took most of one day but I’m no spring chicken at nearly 70. Good video.
I have a heavy post slammer with handles on each side, I was gonna use that for my driver..
Just came across this video. Excellent advice throughout. A couple thoughts from this retiree's former experience:
1. First and foremost, the presentation on maximum water depth is spot on. If the water table is below 25 feet from the ground surface, suction lift hand pumps are not practical.
2. Make sure you are in an area where the water table is in unconsolidated sediments, sands and such. No bedrock. Some areas with sand also can contain some rocks, you may have to move the well location a few times.
3. Ask around to see if the shallow groundwater is readily drinkable without treatment. In some areas, the shallow groundwater can have high solids content, odor, bad taste, you name it. Most areas will have good water. But no guarantees either way, it's worth checking beforehand.
4. Well point drive/slide hammers are available commercially. I've used them in groundwater work. Search "piezometer point slide hammer" or "well point drive hammer" and you can find them. If you buy a groundwater industry product, be prepared for some sticker shock, as they'll likely be a few hundred dollars. As an alternative, look into fence post and T-post drivers from vendors such as Tractor Supply. IMPORTANT - whatever you buy, make sure the working diameter of the hammer fits with the well pipe diameter you're using. I don't know enough to specify a specific hammer for a specific well pipe, sorry. Maybe other viewers can? I always used matched slide hammer/piping/well points from groundwater supply vendors in my work, but again but this would be an expensive route to take and there are alternative products.
5. Hopefully you'll never have to remove the well. Great points were discussed in this video regarding the evils of soil pressure and friction associated with the couplings and the well point. It will likely not be easy but more often than not it can be done. The tripod suggestion is on target, a rigged winch/come-along can work. For safety's sake - watch those cables and stay clear, there will be a lot of tension. If you are fortunate and end up with a working slide hammer, you can also add a length of well pipe extension above ground, slip the hammer over it, add the threaded drive cap, and pound upwards instead of downward as when you installed the well. Again, all hammer/pipe/cap diameters must work with each other. But at this point you'll know if this will work if you successfully used this method to install the well.
6. If you're in an area with nearby industry, gas stations, feedlots, etc. make your first call to the local or state environmental protection office. They will have information as to whether there are any known sources of groundwater contamination in your area. Don't put your well anywhere near your septic system's leach field!
Regarding the first three items - initial information sources can include the usual suspects (family, friends and neighbors). Local feed stores, hardware stores that sell the points might work. County agricultural extension offices, local county or state environment protection offices may work, also the State Geologist's office. Local engineering or environmental consulting firms are a possibility. Be patient if contacting these offices, as finding that right person may take some doing. Some scientists and engineers love helping the public when a non-routine question such as this comes up, others not so much!
Be careful with providing TMI as the subject of permitting may come up with certain regulatory offices. If you don't wish to contact the government offices because of privacy concerns, you could instead do a computer search on ground water quality in ___ County ___ State. Similar search for groundwater depth. Naming convention as to whether to use "groundwater" or "ground water," one or two words? Use both alternatives in your searching.
Apologies for rambling, hope this helps. Good luck!
Thanks for taking the time to write all of that, I found it very helpful.
thx ,, this was life saving information,, I am 700 feet from where a gas station used be
So a good way to get this data without triggering permitting agencies is to ask for a water quality report? Map? I’m looking for property and doing research on what data to look for and where. I want to make sure the water I use for my small plot homestead will be safe for my family & animals. Thank you for taking the time to write your comments.
I previously looked up water table depths for an acquifer (since our ground water higher up seems to be seasonal). It's over 120 feet deep. Is there a way to do this without hiring a rig and having all kinds of permits come with it? (By law, they have to register any wells they drill.) and what kkind of pump is useful then? Something with an internal screw going down the pipe, as it seems from this video that there's a limit to a lift/suction pump to 25-30 feet.
@@salsa090968 You can call the local or state environmental agency and ask about water quality in your County. Their web sites can contain useful info as well. You are interested in buying property and are screening general locations. Ask if there are any maps that show known contaminated areas or specific sites/locations (one example that comes to mind - present and former gas stations).
Your content is wonderfully complete and informative, great productions Dave!
Your videos are so well done and informative. Thanks much for the extensive work you put into making them.
Nice job, on your tutorial. I have a couple of points, however. 1.) If you use Teflon tape, and pipe dope on top, you will have a great seal, and IF you have to take it apart, for some reason(You probably will, your first time.), then the tape will minimize the mess. Also, I have been around pipe dope and Teflon tape for more than 30 years, and I have seen them BOTH leak, but I have NEVER seen the combination of the two leak. On another note, I prefer the grey pipe dope. It is less apt to cracking with age. 2.) There is such a thing, called a "Fence Post Hammer", that will work for your "well hammer". Good job.
Kudos for the tip - doubling up on the 'sealant' for such an important fixture doubles as peace-of-mind.
I agree. Best to take a little extra time the first time
I spent a great deal of time doing plumbing when i renovated bathrooms. Most jobs we just did the plumbing since it wasn't anything major, my boss taught me to always wrap teflon several times around the thread and then spread a layer of silicon around that.
I had asked that question if a tpost driver would work just the same….
John-my dad was a plumber and he also used teflon and grey dope. And yep, I have and used the "russian hammer" many times!
This was excellent! And I like the way you were not goofy, silly, or trying to act like a comedian and telling stupid jokes or acting like a fool, which unfortunately far too many RUclipsrs engage in. And another huge thumbs up for not playing background music to further annoy your viewers. And you got right into the content without telling us your life story first. First class presentation.
There was crappy background music tho
@@rickjames6492 worked enough to keep you interested right?
I agree.
Man I’m so glad I found your channel, and this video. We’ve been talking about doing a hand pump well for years, but never really knew how to get started. We have an old pump house that has a hand pump from the early 1900s, and I’ve always wanted to try to restore it but again… never really knew how. Now I do. Keep making great content man, this is probably some of the best videos on RUclips. Glad there are guys like you out there, doing this kind of stuff and then teaching the rest of us how we can too.
Thank you both for all your lessons, I really enjoyed them and learned a lot!❤️
As always, you make me feel like I could actually do this. Thank you
You can
Did this 30 years ago on my farm in Indiana. This covered everything very well. This is by far the best explanation / tutorial I have ever seen. Great job!!!
I just re-watched this video Dave. Your attention to detail and tips to do it right the first time are invaluable man. Good stuff!
Love your straight forward videos! No nonsense, tell me what I need to know. Love it thanks for the content man!!
I’m getting ready to do a hand pump well and am so grateful that God led me to your video. Thank you for such complete, clear and concise info on parts needed and each step in the process. You are a Godsend.
Top-notch editing! All knowledge, No BS. Well done.
Wow, Dave, this is an awesome video. I am probably never going to have to install a pump, but this is some thing I’m sharing for everyone to be able to see and to pass along super awesome.☮️❤️
Really appreciate the detail in your video. Especially about avoiding contaminants in/on the pipe. And the convenience of the ball valve!
I drank some old well pump water on a old farm once was the coldest water I ever had.
@@isaackvasager9957 yeah we was discing a bean field with a 1066 int i think in Indiana when we found it.
Wells that run with pumps are literally heated by the pump.
I had an old hand pump well at grand dad's farm house in Indiana and it was the best water I ever tasted. Still not forgotten it 35 yrs later.
My grandfather had a pitcher pump outside the farmhouse.
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Kept a can of water to seal the leather washer...always had that iron flavor....no extra money for stainless or brass pipe. Poor as dirt.
This video is the most comprehensive explanation of a point well installation I have ever seen. Answered all my questions and more. Excellent job. Keep making your videos. You are a natural teacher. Thank you!
Glad it helped!!
@@Bushradical does this well pump water in winter Wisconsin? Do I need a different pump cuz I’m thinking parts freeze????
@@jolee6751 Do you know where the Upper Peninsula Michigan is?
17:45 answers your question
@@SW-zu7ve yes, so this would work in Northern Wisconsin
Know zero about wells and pumps but must say, you explained everything so well that I can do this! GREAT JOB Sir....
You sir are an excellent communicator! Thank you!
Well, I clicked on this just because I find the subject interesting. Currently, I have a motorized pump setup from a previous owner that seems to be either dried up or the screen down there is clogged. I ttried to pull the pipe using a come a long and rail road ties for an A frame but it didn’t budge. Only the come a longe handle bent so I left it. I’d like to get it going again so now I have the incentive to pick a new spot now that I’m here with great info on the subject. I’m going to install a well after the current freeze simply because everything covered here is so true, easy to follow and understand. For anyone reading, please know this information can’t be found in a simple search and can be applied to many aspects. Please also know, the wealth of information here is worth saving. So save the video, write it down, record it, do whatever you can do to keep it so you can refer to it. Thank you so much for posting. May God Bless.
Try driving it an inch or so.. kinda like tightening a stuck bolt a smidge, to get it to break loose. Also an old time car jack- high lift- and a length of chain wrapped around the pipe, sometimes works for extracting. Junkyard best spot to find them anymore!!
@@tomgrams2333 Hi Tom: I tried a 10 lb. sledge until it mushroomed. I put a pipe wrench on there with a 6’ piece of 1” black pipe to twist while my friend pounded. No go. Next time I’ll drill a 5/8” hole in there with a bolt to grab on with a hydraulic pull ram that I have left over from my body shop days. If that doesn’t work, I’ll have to find another spot. Thanks for helping me. May God Bless.
A very good instruction on well points.
50+ years ago my father and I installed several of them(from Sears). My father made an adapter for his jack hammer to drive the point and pipe. I stood in the bucket of the loader, with the jackhammer to drive the point down. Dad lowered the bucket as the pipe went into the ground. It worked well. This was before OSHA. Good Luck, Rick
One of the best educational videos I’ve seen, thank you.
I helped my dad dig 5 shallow wells in the 60s and 70s. They still work!
Drove about 3 of these when I lived in Michigan! The guy who recommended not adding pipe dope to the first few threads!? He’s right! This is a damn good video!
An old timer plumber told me that if I wanted to have 100% no leak fittings, was to use Teflon Tape AND Pipe Dope, so that's what I do from now on. Never had a leak ever after that. Great video Dave !!
Thanks for sharing
Man i doubt an old timer plumber said that but ok. What do you do put pipe dope then Teflon and the more pipe dope?
@@JM-yx1lm, That's exactly what he told me to do to make every connection 100% no leaks from the beginning. Wrap a couple times with Teflon, then dope over the tape. I've had leaks with just Teflon, and leaks with just dope, but never with both. Some people are lucky and never have any leaks using just one, but not me. Lol.
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Great video tutorial. Came here from seeing a RUclips recommded video of your wive installing a hand well at your small cabin. Thanks to both of you. Hoping I can do this in the red clay soil of North Carolina. 🤞
Thanks for such a comprehensive and informative video. You have a loyal and lifetime fan and I am anxiously awaiting more videos.
Bought a 100 yr old colonial house and found a old well. Went to the archives for the county and found out it was the first hand dug well in the area which would make sense since it is just outside the old carriage house. Your video is very helpful with the pump itself. Thank you
Wow that's cool. What state
@@rppope1006 Missouri Cole Younger lived and grew up here.
The old one was made in Rockford,IL. I was born and raised there and I never knew that we manufactured hand pumps back in the day. That's super cool!
You, sir, are thorough, clear, and well organized. You are an exceptional teacher. Thank you!
That is exactly the info I needed to know in order to replace the leathers and make an old handpump workable again. Thank you!
Great job explaining this procedure. The ball valve enhancement was a great suggestion.
Would a check valve do the same thing as the ball valve..
It should but then you’d probably need to take it apart before it freezes.
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@@barbarasteed3966 that's what I was thinking
On the ball valve when you drain it for freezing. Leave the valve cracked half way as the “ball” WILL hold water freeze and break!!! I have replaced MANY!!! Great vid!!!
Didn’t know this; thank you!
Was just thinking the same thing. Stay frosty my friend
There is a hand hydrant valve assembly that has a 5 foot pipe with a check valve under the frost line i guess that would not work with a non pressurized water source just wondering if that would work with a picture pump
The best explanation of installation I have seen yet. Thank you!
Man I hope you know how much you're helping the uninformed city slicker that has to bootstrap fast to prepare for end games 🙏🏼
Yes, .. I agree with the fella that said that THIS is THEEEE BEST video on well water / ground water extraction ever that I have seen on RUclips
One good reason to drive a 2" stand of pipe is that the larger inside diameter gives you room to run a liner sleeve inside if your 2" pipe develops a leak over time. Let's say you drive a well with 2" diameter pipe, and over 10 years, the screen in your drive point wears out and you get sand/silt in the bottom. You can run inside with a 1" pipe stand and jet out the sand. Then you can run a liner inside and re-complete your well with a smaller I.D.
Nice add friend.
I was wondering about this.
@@northcoastrealty4362 Great Point
Whipple is a great communicator! Nice job!
Fantastic video... SO complete, and understandable by a total newbie!!
This was done beautifully!
Thank you!
Thank you for the additional info on this topic, you've answered a LOT of my questions. And thank you for the "first two threads" rule on applying pipe dope; sounds like good advice.
Outstanding job Dave. One of the best common sense & thoroughly explained videos I’ve ever seen. I’m not in need of a well pump, just wanted to see the video for my own personal knowledge. But dang if you don’t have me wanting to install a well pump on my property lol. Thanks for a great video Dave!
Charley in VA
This is the benchmark of any how to videos. Amazing job and thank you
We're digging out an old well and I think we're going to use this exact setup. I'm glad you mentioned the smooth bore being perhaps the biggest difference between American made and those overseas. The ball valve is genius and so is washing out the pipes before putting them in the ground.
best of luck RB.
Might need a piston bore hone to true up a foreign made pitcher pump?
Dave, you do a wonderful job, you and Brooke both do great videos. Keep up the great work.
Still watching this even after two years. Thank you so much for posting this.
From a former Yooper ( now in Maine) Thanks for all the great videos... I still have property n a camp up there in the UP so will be using your videos as a great reference
I've got to do this in a well inside my 113 year old home. I've watched and subscribed before, and I was damn happy to see a DIY video from you on this topic. You're awesome Whipps!
Best how-to video on this topic, EVER. Thanks!
What a fantastic video. Thank you for your knowledge, and for explaining in such great detail.
The detail was excellent and all of the nuggets of "good to know" info from experience will save me the experience of finding out for myself. Thanks!
this is probably the best video on hand pump well that i have ever seen. thank you. new subscriber here! :)
Kits like this are great! We drove one about 15 feet in northern Wisconsin....has been working like a charm for years
Hi Mate, thank you so much. Finally someone who knows what he is talking about and also takes his time to really explain every detail. Much appreciated
We definitely need to get this for our homestead. Every winter we always have major issues with our water in our barn. Thanks!
Thanks Dave. I'm thinking of giving it a go at our northern Wisconsin off grid shack. Thank you so much for your advice!! Take care!!
Hey Hollywood...that is one of the best hand pump well vids to date. Thanks so much. With Bi den, I mean, rolling blackouts...this is a great idea.
I grew up with these type of pumps and you just gave the best explanation of the complete operation of how these pumps work . I like the closing valve .
One of the best videos I have ever seen. You should be a teacher or a instructor. You were very thorough
and I give an A+ for your efforts! Thank you so much!
Really good job of explaining how the process works and what to look out for. I do a lot of camping in the u p it's kind of our final frontier
One of the most informative videos I have watched - thanks for this - will come back when we are able to get it done and let you know how we did
I have 1 question. WHY AM I JUST NOW LEARNING ABOUT THIS!!!! Been a prepper my entire life. Watch youtube every day and Im just now coming across this. Thank RUclips algorithm! Good job.
GREAT advice. Thanks so much. I'm getting ready to put in a pump well with a water auger. I hope. : )
Great video !
Good refresher to see since it's been about 20+ years since I put in a hand drive well.
Great tips too, will make my next one much easier.
Thanks & greetings from down south in Manistee.
Merry Christmas.
It's a pleasant rarity to watch a complete easy to understand instruction video and I thank you for outstanding instructions.
Thank you! very, very, detailed, I usually have to watch 10 to 15 videos to get all info, but you answered all. God bless!
I watched the episode of The Last Alaskans where Tyler Selden and his brother put one in his cabin so he and Ashely didn't have to haul water anymore. Pretty cool thing to do. Very informative video Dave.
The water quality is great there unlike most places and easy to find there.👍👌✌️
IN the cabin? Like inside the house?
I love these videos. They make me smile as I live in AZ and water is 1000+ feet down. I remember the days when I was in NY when the water was at the surface.
Thank you for the class. Well taught.
i watched you all install this set up and have been waiting for some follow up like this to explain the nitty gritty, so thanks for the pertinent info. i appreciate that.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for producing this video!
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on youtube!!!
You were informative, direct,
to the point, explained everything really “well” and made it easy to understand for someone like me who is not very mechanical.
I wish more content producers were able and willing to make videos like you!
Man I learned something new from you every time I watch a video and you are a pretty damn good teacher to !
Hands-On , explanatory , simple terms , opens up a device in lets us see its inner workings .
Great stuff man , love it !
Thanks for such a thorough treatment of the hand pump. I found an antique Davey pump several years ago, now I know that it was missing the weighted check valve. Lehman’s has a great selection of well points, pumps and leather kits including the flapper weight.
Excellent Dave!! Thank you!!
My husband watched with me.. I keep asking for this to be installed on our property.. Maybe it will happen now! Thank you!
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but make sure your ball valve is made of lead-free brass / rated for potable water. You don't want lead leaching into your drinking water. Probably not a big deal but worth mentioning. (Brass often has lead added because it improved machinability enormously.) Stainless Steel would also work well.
Oh, please.
They are all lead free it's been that way for years
@@mauricesmith4270 that's not true at all. Plenty of leaded brass fittings on the shelf. I've even had to sign a thing at the hardware store stating that I would not use it for potable water.
You need to check for lead free.. you not completely wrong but they do make cheaper valve for like boiler and chiller systems.
Finally someone took the initiative to speak about a simple hand driven well w pitcher pump. My oleman taught me how to do when I was 10. He told me then...Son you may need to know how to do this one day , if power goes down or maybe you buy a piece of land and need water or to check the water.
Having a pitcher pump , pipe and point may make you a King one day He who has access to clean water will have the advantage. Gotta have it!
Great instructions! I am inspired to get something like this going to water the "back 40" garden I've been working on.
Best and most informative drive well video on youtube
Dude.. well done... pun intended.
Seriously though, super awesome explanations and advice. I thank you for your time and efforts!
Good stuff. Thank you and Scott.
I just came upon your video and I learned everything to be comfortable to set up a well pump.
Thank you for the great advice, I was born on a farm in upper MN, but never knew you could DIY well. You rock bro! Blessings from and old veteran:)
Of all the tutorials I have EVER seen, this guy is the best instructor I've watched! Man, you should do instructional videos every day!! You are great at what you do. Thank you!
Another informative, outstanding video Dave! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
First vid on this topic that actually tells you what exactly to get. Thanks
This is the first video of yours I've seen. If it's any indication, you are extremely good at explaining things. I am now subscribed. Thank you.
That was an excellent description of how to drive a well. I use to help my father drive wells in the 50’s in
Arkansas. He did it the same way. He made his own driver. He took a 40” piece of 6” pipe with a driving
cap and then poured about 75 lbs. babbitt in the pipe. This would give you a longer stroke when driving
the pipe.
That’s the best example of a well done job and honest explanation. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very good and knowledgeable information. Clear, simple, concise, accurate. And you don’t go where you aren’t informed. Well done.
You did a good job explaining how to put it all together 👌
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We have tractor supply in Michigan as well .
In MI...mernards is mask only or tries to be. TSC is cool about it. I've been told to leave many places. I will not repeat will not give tyrants my money. Well besides taxs. No choice..
Love this; thanks for standing up for our freedom! It’s not easy, but please be encouraged to keep after it. Thank you!
Thanks for this!
DUDE! this is a real good video. I appreciate you taking time out to make it. -PawPaw
Glad you liked it!