Hand Pump Wells .....Deep Dive
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
- Today we will take a VERY close look at hand pump wells. What parts to buy, where to buy them, how to drive the well what pitfalls you might encounter and how to get good clean water with a primitive well.
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My water table is only 450 feet down. Im going to the hardware store today. I’ll comment again in 3 years to keep you updated on how it’s going.
@michaelt9372 I’m from the future of three years ahead. I can tell you what happened, but I shouldn’t because it’ll mess up the future.
Also consider my gasket tips just posted.
Hope you started with pipe from Menard's
Only…mine is only 6 feet..lol
@@darkenergy361 I’m 7 months in. Can I get a hint?
I'm a stocker at a Menards myself and i'm sometimes putting plumbing stuff on the shelves and hooks to be sold. This deep dive will help me answer any questions about this stuff if i'm ever faced with those questions. Thank you Dave.
Just do whatever else does at big box stores just pretend you know what you’re talking about, just sound confident and well spoken and if someone calls you out just tell them “You’re the expert” and that it’s awesome to learn something new!
@@mikeFPS1980 most of the time they try to explain to me how to do something with what I've bought--I think it is really funny because I'm a retired Journeyman Carpenter.
I like the ball valve idea! I have a check valve on mine...and it will freeze shut in the winter. ...and. Sometimes just rip the rubber apart. My well is about 22ft. It's been there for more than 30 yrs.
And they sell those pitcher pumps at Menards.,😊
I have absolutely zero ambition to make a well but it was fun watching you try, fail, try again, and finally succeed. The process was interesting and I liked seeing how simple the materials are to make a well. Stay radical! 🤘🏻
I’ve watched them put in two different wells. Very interesting. I have no need either but I sure do enjoy these videos! 😊
Fr. Just calming, and his nice voice
Great video, Dave! As always crystal clear explanation of the process and times of redirection. Nice one! Now back to work on my solar system! Peace and love!
Hey, one day you might. Now you know
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Growing up in oxberry Miss we had a pump just like that. We always had to make sure to save water in one bucket so we could prime the pump..we also had an outhouse..I was 7.. now I’m 70
Black spruce is bush radical's brother. Another cool channel 🎉
Thanks for the tip. I agree, another great channel!
Definitely SUB to Black Spruce. Ryan is always doing something interesting
So I was watching one of Bushradicals older videos on building a cabin and low and behold, another channel was recommended to me to watch, and it was Black Spruce. I watched it and enjoyed watching him build a cabin, but there was someone familiar helping him in the back ground. I thought, that guy looks a lot like Dave. He kept calling him his brother. So, long story short, I’m Black Spruce new subscriber.🎉
Another good one is his wife's channel...Girl in the Woods
@@morocho1092 yes!! I follow her, too!!
Great video, Dave. I grew up in a hardware store and we sold all that stuff for sandpoints. Dont know how many pump leathers i sold growing up. The old timers were always amazed when my little sis could tell them why their wells werent pumping. She went on to get a masters in geology. Your tutorial covers this subject perfectly.
At my cabin in Northern lower Michigan. I drove a sand point with no water at 24 foot. Instead of pulling I drove through a hard clay layer, 1/8 inch per hit at times. After 3 foot of hard driving it poked into water sand. Total well depth 34 foot. Hand pump does in fact pump it, extra effort is needed on handle, and I wear out leather cups once a year. I like the ball valve idea! I used brass check valve. Great informative video! Thanks!
In the winter, below freezing, how do you drain the pipe? Otherwise would it not freeze and burst?
@@tommak6516 Check and Bleeder Valve
Holy shizzzz. This is interesting to me I'm in the Twin Cities, Minnesota so mid state. I drove 14 feet down and hit hard clay. I know a retired professional well digger who insisted since I hit hard pack clay I could not drill deeper as no sand would be below the clay and the point would be clogged with clay anyway. I drove to 17 feet and gave up. Also was told anything below 20 feet is futile for a hand pump. This is reassuring as I had given up. I did pull the sand point and it was very beat up and definitely clogged. Did you jet it to clear the clay?
@@RunningWithSauce Once in water, you cannot fill the pipe with water. If pipe holds water you're not in water. The gravity pressure of the water poured in pushes clay off point.
@@criticaleventYou can do what I did. You stick a 1/2 inches pipe in the 5/4 inches pipe AND build (in my case) or buy in that 1/2 inches pipe a valve with glass ball.
Than you will be able to pull water from that well, BUT NO MORE THAN 2 LITTERS in 3 or 5 minutes which is needed for the well to refill and it depends on the spring debit down bellow.
The 1 metter (hight with holes) and 5/4 inches pipe (cillinder) can't hold more than 1 litter of water in volume (it's a simply volume geometry math computation), than will have to refill again.
The water it will allways be sandy (muddy). At least that is the case in my "well". I am still waiting for the sediments to settle... Maybe they will never do... who knows?
The good part is that you can deposite that sandy mud and search for gold in it. 😂
For those wondering, Yes a shallow well pump and a hand pump as hes using can in fact pump deeper then says they do. Infact that is just the Maximum Recommend Depth to pump at. WARNING ⚠️ it will wear parts down much faster then intended if doing so depending on how much further depth, if itll even work. Just know to be careful!
Appreciate these videos where you work through the challenges bound to occur. Better than the polished vids on other channels that edit out the realities of these projects. If Dave has some struggles, I can cut myself some slack
Where can I buy one
I will probably never have to drill a well, but your instructional video was very interesting Dave. I always learn something new when I watch your channel. Thanks for more great viewing. Cheers from Australia 👏🏻🇦🇺🦘
Thanks 👍
Great comment Ms. Libby,👍👍 I totally agree!!!😍😊🥰🤗
Off grid 20+ years and hand drove my own well but be aware that a driven will is less than 25 feet deep and water tables vary a lot through the year and you may get contaminated water from surface infiltration. Always have the water tested and use a good filter.
The easiest way to drive one is with a 3 foot fence post driver or if you have access to a backhoe with a bucket you can use the bucket and weight of the tractor to drive them in.
Most driven wells fail so unless you know for sure there is water at 25 feet you are probably wasting your money.
The log/wrench combo was genius!
Dave, thanks for not giving up on RUclips videos. We enjoy watching you do whatever it is you are currently working on. Don't stress over "Is this decent content or not." Just keep putting yourself out there and we will keep watching. Personally, I think you should be the next Motel 6 voice guy. You and Tom Bodett have such great voices. My other notable favorite is Morgan Freeman. BTW, this video did answer a couple of questions I have had about this type of well even though I have watched your other well videos. So, thanks!
Hi Dave, Something that I think you might have mentioned is that I know you use outhouses at your cabins and lots of other people do too. So the well should be as far away from the outhouse and also preferably upslope. I work for civil engineers and I don't really know about shallow wells but deep ones are always at least 50' from a septic system.
Hopefully they use a composting crapper. Far better than an outhouse, septic, or city flusher.
Code for new wells is 100' from any septic system.
This guys mentality is the best. There are no guarantees in life. Try your best. Rinse. Repeat.
I noticed there was a Sandpoint well on my off grid property that I bought in the UP last fall. It had an old broken pitcher pump in the cabin, and there was a drive coupler on top of the well pipe. I bought a new pitcher pump at Menards so I could put on it. I checked the depth of the well and it was about 22 feet to the bottom, but the water table was about 5 foot down. I did notice that with the spring runoff up there. There was quite a bit of water in areas where it wasn’t last fall. So I’m assuming the water table goes up and down with the runoff also. my cabin and property is in the area between Deer Park and Paradise and it’s quite sandy. The little pitcher pump works great on it. And yes I did notice when I first used it it had to clean some sediment out of the well itself and then the water cleared up. I did watch your videos about driving well and I’m glad I did not have to do that lol. But it is nice to have a well on the property that works, thanks for the videos you’re always a pleasure to watch.
Great video Dave. Keep them up...as usual. We love them
Thanks, Dave. Great tips.
Great video Dave, I love the longer content! Keep them coming, they’re relaxing to watch and watchable over and over!
That was awesome tks Dave
Great video as always, Dave. Really enjoying the deep dives.
Thanks for always sharing thoughtful and useful videos!
Good video Dave! Thanks for the info!!
Excellent video. Thanks Dave.
Brooke did an outstanding job digging her well. Of course she was close to a stream.
FWIW, Harbor Freight sells a nice 2" augur bit for their powered post hole digger, that can be easily adapted for a hand augur. Getting the dirt out of the hole will be the hardest part, but it goes through clay pretty well and might be a good option until you hit sand. Also, for pulling a pipe? Tractor jack with large steel washers to grip the pipe. You can get huge steel washers at an industrial supply. In my area of NW Indiana, there's a business, AAA Steel that carries such stuff.
A deep dive from Dave, can't go wrong with this advice. Thanks.
Excellent job, Dave!
Thanks for the thoughtful step by step
Well done Dave.
Well done.
Cheers
Very good video, thanks Dave!
That was cool. Thanks Dave!
Thanks Dave! Great video as always!
Love it! Excellent how-to video, Dave!
Dave, you are an authentic and genuine man. Thank you for these videos we can refer to just in case.
Thanx Dave...great comprehensive video..awesome.
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Man i love your videos so much! Please don't stop making them. Something so enjoyable about the way you explain what you're doing.
Awesome video! I have an electric pump for my shallow well that I use for the house, but when I rebuilt it I put a valve and manual pump on the top just in case I loose power. This lets me have access to drinking water no matter what happens to the grid.
Thank you for posting this Dave! Good info that is very well laid out, you are a good teacher for sure Brother!
Thanks for the videos Dave! I've watched all of yours, brook's and Ryan's cabin building videos like 10 times each. Can't wait to see the inside of your last cabin when you get it done. God bless you and your family.
הכל נכון גם אצלי בישראל. תודה דייויד
me too lol
Thanks for all the details!
I think the well drilling vids are some of my favorites that you do. I have probably watched them over and over again at least 6 times each and have shared them with as many people as I know that have interest in that
Excellent Dave, thank you for the detailed info that can either make or break a project. Specifics were perfect!
Hey Dave thank you for the video very good information
Excellent informative video Dave.
Thanks Dave, always informative and entertaining :)
Another great "lesson", something we all might need to know!! Never miss a video...THANKS!!!
I watched my Grandfather, my Dad, an Uncle, and a few others drive a well 120 feet in Michigan, and they worked their Asses off. I was really young, and don't remember a ot about it, except it took a lot of summer weekends to get it done. Yes my Grand parents were some early homesteaders back in the day. They owned seven acres in an area called Texas Corners in Michigan, and they grew some of the best tasting vegetables I've ever eaten. They grew some
Christmas trees, that are probably a hundred feet tall now. It was such a wonderful place to visit as a kid, They also had two long row of Raspberries that we spent many a day harvesting when they were ripe Yes we were child slave laborers used against are will when we were young. Of course we ended up eating most of what we picked back then. They remind me of you, as my Grandparents were always buying and fixing up Michigan properties, in the lower, and upper parts of Michigan. The saddest day happened when some drunk teenager rammed my Grandfather in a head on collision, which cut short many of the joys they once had building places all over Michigan.
Thanks SO MUCH for sharing this!
Great job explaining how to install a hand driven water pump! Love the channel.
Thanks. Always enjoy your videos!
great video, wells/water-systems are always fun.... ;)
have a great day
I appreciate your informative, modest, low-key, perspective. I'm learning a lot and I'm always more curious at the end of one of your videos.
Love these instructional videos Dave. All the best to you and family.
Excellent- best sand point well installation I have seen! Great job 👏🏼
Thank you for sharing ✌️💞🤟
Extremely worthwhile, concise video. Thank you, Dave Whipple. Well done.
I always enjoy and "like" your videos. This was very informative. The tripod build was a real bonus. Thanks
Thanks for sharing, it totally held my attention the entire video. I fell as though I could do it myself
That was very interesting! Thank you for sharing!
Best off grid well video I've seen thanks 👍 learned a lot
Very informational & entertaining. Nice work! Pretty cool.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Your narration is excellent Dave. Thanks for sharing the good and the not as good. Have a great week.
Another outstanding, and for me, entertaining video. Thank you!
Yay! I just got finished watching Brooke’s new video! I look forward to your videos and learn so much from both of you. I hope to see many videos this summer from y’all in Alaska! I also can’t wait to see your son’s new adventure as well! I love your family! Blessings ❤️
Excellent video, learned a lot.
dude,. this video was AMAZING! Thank you. This is now on my bucket list.
Thanks Dave ! Good to see one that works ! Radical 👊
Have watched all of you well making videos. Could watch all day long. Well done. Great problem solving
Great video, Dave. I love that your videos make these things approachable to average poeple if you're willing to put in the work.
GOOD ADVICE, KEEP SAFE AND WELL...
My ex husband did this up in the Sandhills. He welded two truck rims together, he jacked up the rear of the truck, removed one tire and installed the two rims welded together, put the truck in gear and used the spinning rim as a pulley. Worked damn good!
I've heard folks do that
At the end that water was crystal clear. Good job!
Dave, I love that I am not the only person that puts things together, only to find out it's upside down. lol..thanks for doing real videos. Love the honesty in all you do. Great work
A great video with a lot of helpful information. You cover things things that other well videos failed to mention. Thank you for sharing.
Great information. Thank you!
Great video Dave.
Thanks for the tips.
Hacía tiempo que no veía un pozo con un mecanismo como este. Estos conocimientos deben perdurar ;) Good job
Sounds like you know plenty water stuff. Thanks for the great show! Excellent.
Another great instructional video! I might never use it, but it was fun to watch!
Very interesting and helpful. Thanks.
I appreciate your knowledge and making these videos. It helps out alot.
Thank you Dave you helped me trouble shoot an issue I’d been having with my sand point. Drove it deeper and now I’m good
At my age, I will not be drilling a well, but I love the way you teach. Nice video Dave
You did a fantastic solo job installing that well. I learned a lot. Another important job done to perfection. God bless.
That video just flew by! Love your DYI videos!
Thanks Mr Whipple 👍 😊 I liked this video a lot!!! Interesting stuff 🤔 👌
I will try to remember a funnel to aim for on any wells i put in on my future homestead. Thanks for the video.
I really enjoyed that, Dave.
That’s a good idea with the ball valve to keep things primed thanks Dave 😊
Im saving up and praying to be able to homestead soon. Thank you for the instructions!
Great video.
Interestingly enough, the leather pump cup assembly looks almost exactly like on a Coleman liquid fuel camp stove just much bigger.
Thanks for another brilliant video. This is something I'm preparing myself for after my 10-year-old well is no longer bubbling for us:)
Great job Dave, Cheers Ian from England
Ya know Dave...that was an awesome video for any of us that are gonna sink a Sandpoint...I've never sunk one but have friends who have them at their camp and they all see to love them for their water supply...very informative and you yo thru each step thoroughly...well done...take care ✌️
Excellent advice ❤
Thanks Dave, a real video! Showing your failures is honest! Again thank you for this video! Kudos
Great video as usual Dave. Hope you and you family have a safe a fun summer in the UP
you do an excellent job of teaching...very easy to understand.Thank you