Princess Mononoke Movie Reaction (Studio Ghibli)
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2021
- Suzy Lu & Steejo react to Princess Mononoke from Studio Ghibli. Princess Mononoke follows a young Emishi prince named Ashitaka, and his involvement in a struggle between the gods of a forest and the humans who consume its resources
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a theme you'll notice with Ghibli films, and especially this one, there is no villain, just different people with different opinions and experiences, the villain is conflict and war.
Myazaki while being inspired by Walt Disney in his youth, always disliked that there was a Need to have a Villain, and found it kinda insulting to the audience intelligence, even if the audience were young kids.
So he always tries to make it a Non-Machinean story,a nd as you put it, the Only Villain is War, Conflict and the lack of Empathy.
This movie is basically just a better, more modern Nausicaa.
Yes I always loved that about his movies. Very often the character who appears to be the clear evil one early on ends up being a welcomed aside to the final cast. One great example is the Witch in Howl. Of course, let's not forget the occasional genuine asswipe like that Laputan dude - the one Mark Hamill played, iirc.
what about the one guy from castle in the sky
@@MontgomeryWenisI disagree 1000%. You cannot compare myths.
The best thing about this movie is that there’s no real antagonist here. Not all of animals and gods are in the right and the humans are doing what they can to survive. It’s not like they’re doing it to be cruel
Not sure i agree. I would not save Lady Eboshi if she hanged from a cliff =/
@@martineriksson6123 Why?
@@stephen01king She caused so much suffering, had no regrets about it.
And if we imagine our world was like theirs... you get to see an actual living god who has proven time and time again to be a benevolent entity and you decide to kill it no matter the cost? She acted like a stereotyphical american general in any monster movie 🤨
@@martineriksson6123 So did the gods. Before she came, some of the gods also attack humans without regret. Why are you singling her out for this?
Most people also had not seen the benevolent side of the gods. On the other hand, most of the male in Iron Town would be far more familiar with the constant attacks by the boar god. Since the forest spirit is thought to be the leader of the gods, why would the normal folks and Lady Eboshi not extend the same assumption that it was also out to kill humans?
None of them knew that the forest spirit is more of a protector of the forest rather than the leader of the gods. Only Ashitaka and the viewers are given that information.
@@stephen01king Of course they did. The humans ruined their home, and even that could probably have been forgiven but they weren't ever gonna stop.
Sure but they were grown ass men and women. They themselves acknowledged the forest not as theirs but the gods. They knew they were intruders, what did they expect? Eboshi was made to seem very humane but if at all, that was all she was. I stand by what I said, i would not have forgiven ashitaka for saving her 🤷♂️
The part where the Forest Spirit kisses Okkoto and takes his life away... I haven't watched this film since my grandma died in August, and it hit me a lot harder after that experience. She declined very quickly from near-perfect health, and passed within a few days. She was almost 92 years old. My mom and I were there, giving her medicine and taking care of her, but she was mostly incoherent, and suffering. When she passed, it felt gentle. Like a kiss. Like a breath after being submerged in the water. I hope it felt like that for her. I hope she wasn't scared. And I hope whatever awaits after this life is being kind to her.
I'm over here bawling because of a baboon-faced deer and an angry pig. I guess somedays it be like that.
This is my FAVORITE Ghibli film. I love it so much.
Mine too!!!
This is the one of the few ghibli films for adults
Mine too. So beautiful and powerful...
Sammmmme
Same. It's also the first Ghibli film I ever watched
The lady is not a villain, she's a really good person actually, you know, for the people who live there and just want to live normally.
They're a small village in a very difficult time, time of WAR, the Sengoku period of Japan.
People concerned about the nurture because we have modern technology now, so we don't need to worry about the beasts and forest would consume us, but back in the old day people literally need to fight their way out of the wilderness.
There would be no humanity if people didn't try to do those things.
Lady eboshi is my favorite character!
So true! I always get sad when people watch this movie and start trying to apply 'good' and 'evil' to the different factions, because they're so used to doing that.
yea I'd say there is no good or evil in this movie really, everybody is just doing what they think is right and trying to survive. Lady Eboshi is doing what she can for her people even though it's having cataclysmic effects on the surounding nature, and the animals are doing what they feel they have to to protect their homes from being destroyed by the humans. The message of the movie to me by the end is that we can find a compromise between human development and survival and nature, that humanity and nature are not mutually exclusive.
she's not the villain but she's greedy and dumb
@@salem8092 so you don't care about the ending? Her character development?
What I don’t like about the English translation of this film is that they made so many lines weirdly and to me unnecessarily specific and explanatory which erased so many rooms to interpret.
One of the examples I cannot stand is where Moro tells Ashitaka about San’s past. In English she was literally thrown away by her parents when Moro literally caught them destroying her forest. But in the original version, we don’t know who did it - to me it even sounds like she was offered as a courtesy to the god from the community she was born in, as part of their plan. By mentioning ‘parents’, we cannot see anything other than ‘horrible individuals’ while it should supposed to be the whole social structure which abandoned her.
At the same scene, Moro says ‘how dare you speak to a god like that’ and I hate this translation. In the original, she says ‘how do you think you can heal the sadness my daughter has been carrying’. She is angry because she loves her daughter and this is a test for Ashitaka if he is worthy. She wouldn’t get pissed off as a mighty god just because a boy was rude.
The English version of this movie is famous for its many mistranslations, and I felt their maliciousness when they translated "Raging God" as "Demon". There is absolutely no respect for Shinto religion.
And at the start they made his girlfriend into his sister because the hero can't possibly leave behind a love interest, never to return.
@@thechikuwa284 though I think the philosophy this story is based on is even older than the structured Shintoism (more primitive form of animism, I would say) I do agree that they shouldn’t separate god and demon. When Moro refereed to Okkoto ‘he is no longer a god’ I got upset because it’s just so wrong.
@@maxmichalik4938 that was a bit of a change I agree… if I explain a bit, ‘girlfriend’ might not be equivalent to how she was for him. In such small tribal community, it’s the village who arranges who would marry to whom. We can assume that they might be designated at birth to get married. Being a fiancée in that era is definitely not the same as being a girlfriend in a modern way, let alone in a western way. IMO, they didn’t need to mention if she’s sister or not. In Japanese she calls him ‘ani-sama’ which means brother, but again, in such small tribal communities, that’s just how you address an older member of your generation with respect. There are many Japanese people also who misunderstand that she’s his sister. But IMO that does not affect the story. The only thing we need to notice is that she seems to be quite fond of him. And I believe everybody can see that.
@@maxmichalik4938 For me, the bigger problem is the change of her line. In English she seems to be obsessed not to be forgotten. She even tells that the dagger is for him not to forget her. In Japanese, she does not ask anything. She just says she has put her prayers into this dagger so it would protect him.
this is such a selfless action. she just wants him to live. that’s why Ashitaka wanted San to keep the dagger instead of him, knowing that the Forest Spirit doesn’t cure his curse which means he can be dead anytime soon. He did not ask San anything in return. Just like Kaya prayed for him, he just wanted San to live instead of himself. In English version, this whole intentions are erased. I’m not happy about that.
The leper who pops out and chuckles "haha, I missed" is my favorite character
Fun fact the jp voice actor for Moro is a very influential drag queen in the japanese drag scene. Their iconic laugh as Moro was so bone chillingly good that Hayao Miyaki himself was so giddy of how good it was.
@@VunderGuySir, what!? 😭
This is my all time favorite ghibli movie. I watched this as a child and still love it as an adult and have shown it to my children and they love it.
Side note, how did you get your pants on with balls that big to keep those akira comments in?
I first watched this movie when I was about 7 years old with my parents. Looking back on it, it had a major impact on who I became as a person.
Brother!
this film is not about which side we want to choose. Like it or not, we all are humans living upon what Eboshi has done. the question is, that if we can be like Ashitaka and try to save the children like San.
Do you wanna know why I love Miyazaki’s movies so much? Because a lot of them have to do with Japanese mythology.
In animism and mythology in my countery, those terrifying beings are also "gods and spirits" rather than demons, and are not special but universal in nature and humans. I think the story depicts a world where their balance is about to tilt extremely.
In Japanese they are called "raging gods", the English translations decided to call them demons
｢我が名はあしたか｣が｢my name is Ashitaka｣にしかできないのがなんとも言えないね笑
たたら場もアイアンタウンだったり、、全体的に古い言い回しが多く出る作品ですが翻訳するとその辺りの細かいニュアンスが埋もれてしまいがちですよね。
そしてこの作品は、それらが世界観の表現としても一つの要素となっているので非常に口惜しく感じます。
I saw this in a theater when it first came out in America. I'll never forget that experience. It was so good. For a long time I considered it my favorite movie ever
Took me years to notice that the lepreux were healed at the end (the woman looking surprised at her hand)
The whole point of this particular story is that neither side is really right or wrong. San wants to protect the forest from the people that are hurting it and killing the wildlife, but Eboshi is providing honest work for people and giving them more freedom then they'd be bound to find elsewhere. Lepers were often treated very poorly everywhere in those times, some places even required them to announce themselves as 'unclean' when they entered a village and in that era it wasn't uncommon for people with debt to be forced to give up their daughters to brothels to pay it off. Eboshi is causing serious damage to the forest, but she isn't a bad person. She just doesn't believe in all the mysticism, and is determined to look out for her people. San doesn't really care about the humans' grievances and sees them as invaders and defilers while ignoring the pain of those she hurts. The bigger problem is that neither side is willing to talk to the other, so they just end up fighting.
I agree. I find it disappointing how San said she would never forgive the villagers. This shows that, unlike Lady Eboshi, she didn’t learn anything from all this. To her, the villagers were the only ones at fault while she and the spirits were in the right. For all we know, the spirits chose to attack the village without so much as warning them about what they were doing to the forest.
In my opinion, the spirits are like that angry farmer from Grave of the Fireflies. They dwelled on a piece of land and, like anyone else, had the right to protect it. But when said land was being disturbed, they tried to handle it through violence. They attacked someone who was trying to survive, showing no sympathy or understanding for that person’s situation.
Lady Eboshi may have caused a lot of trouble, but she saw the error of her ways and learned from them. Something that San was too stubborn to do.
What do you think?
@@kaizerhall3138 I get *why* San can't forgive the villagers, but I do think the movies ending is mostly positive. San understands that if they can't get along, at least they can live and let live and Eboshi understands the consequences of her actions and isn't stupid or stubborn enough to repeat the same mistakes. Hirotaka at least got through to San that humans aren't inherently bad, even if she's still wary of them. I just appreciate that neither side is necessarily the bad guy in this situation and both do ultimately start to understand each other even if only a little. It's a first step in the right direction, but shows they still have work to do before they're ready to work together. It's a realistic conclusion that doesn't just have them ignoring the bad blood that's built over time just to wrap everything in a neat little bow. Peace is something you have to work hard for, and they don't act like it's not. It's a movie that opens the door for healthy conversations about a complex topic that merits discussion, which I'm 100% on board with.
@Rawden I understand. When San said that she couldn’t forgive the villagers, I assumed that it was going to be a permanent thing. That she would forever hate humans without trying to understand them, their situation, or how she might’ve made things worse. But if what you say is true. If there’s still hope for the two sides to one day reconcile, with San learning to forgive and accept humanity, then that would be alright.
You definitely will need to react to Ghibli's 'Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind' if you liked Princess Mononoke's "Man vs. Nature" theme. Nausicaa is very heavy on the same theme, and was my #1 favorite Studio Ghibli movie, with Princess Mononoke as #2, until 'When Marnie Was There' came out, and now that is my #1 favorite Ghibli movie.
Nausicaa is my favorite Ghibli film.
In this movie, it's completely nonsense to categorize each character as good or bad as you did.
disagree, some characters are clearly worse than others.
Princess Monoke and Howls Moving Castle are my favorite Ghibli movies!
I’m so happy that you guys react to this anime I am 28 years old but now when I’m see this anime It make me feels like I back to 11 years old again But the sad thing is you guys watch This anime in English voice I don’t understand Japanese language but Japanese voice Give a lot of feeling emotion sad fun Cute for you to enjoy .🙂😢
This was the first ghibli movie I watched a kid and it has a real special place in my heart as one of my favourite movies. The ending is so bittersweet but also hopeful; even though the forest spirit is already "dead" we can still save what's left.
Just watching the Forest grow again is such a beautiful moment 💚
Really love those Kodamas! Love all Studio Ghibli films esp the ones from Hayao Miyazaki...Some people would think that Totoro doesn't symbolize anything or that Spirited Away was just some random film. But Hayao Miyazaki really shows his respect towards all the living things and it resonates in all his work. He shows the power the nature holds. Not everyone would get what story he's trying to tell or say that are just cartoons for kids. But honestly, it should be the adults who should see these films.
It's said that "KODAMA" which appeared on the last scene is back "TOTORO".
Hayao Miyazaki liked and adopted an idea of his staff. (These sentences were made with a translation site.)
“Cut off a wolf's head and it still has the power to bite.”
This movie had me so moved and the music in this was so brilliant. I love your reaction to this!
they got so many good actors to do the voices in that movie. 10/10
タタリガミは魔物と言うより堕ちたる神様です
I'm just crying over here as they said pony instead of elk- sob
I love this movie it's 100% my favourite ghibli movie. I think it might be my favourite movie of all time.
i've always had a mindset that some ghibli films are better in the japanese dub, while some are in the english - its strange seeing this one in english for once but its super cool to see the differences in voice acting
I like how the back and forth at 29:10 is basically the whole theme of the movie.
see "nausicaa from the valley of the wind" it is old but show what the nature become when you mess with it. and it is ghibli too
Greatest animated movie in existence.
A movie about the destructive downward spiral of revenge and all the negativity it causes:
"She should've been allowed that revenge."
Also... 1:41:11 Sure, killing the forest god wasn't a hot idea, but I don't think the point of this movie is to cheer on former prostitutes and lepers to lose their homes and work? What do you want them to do, roll over and die? The iron work was probably the only way for these people to not get killed or taken advantage of.
I remember seeing this as my first Ghibli movie when I was a kid and getting traumatized by the boar spirit scene at the start lmao
This movie is amazing , the reason I always energetically watched anime is this movie 🎥
I like this movie very much, but I must say I prefer original Japanese audio track, these voices seems to be little off for me. Also, great reaction video
The German version also is excellent imho 🐺
It's hit or miss, i think eboshi is fantastic in the English version but some other characters, like moro, aren't quite as good I don't think
Probably the most morally complex films from Ghibli. The only really villainous character is the mercenary Jigo and everyone else has understandable motives and morals, who are none the less brought into conflict with others who have opposing goals.
"Fun" fact: Kaya, the Emishi girl seen in the beginning, is not Ashitaka's sister even though she calls him "big brother"; she and Ashitaka were actually betrothed, but Nago's curse and Ashitaka's banishment put a swift end to it. Kaya's parting gift, that crystal dagger, was meant to be given to Ashitaka on their wedding day, which adds more significance to Ashitaka then giving it to San.
I even recommend this one to you in your post a few weeks ago. Now I've got to go rewatch this movie first before watching the reaction. Been literally more than a decade since I've watched it and now I'm pumped.
The transliteration of this film apparently required more exposition than the original, examining where San came from, explanations of how and who the Emishi, etc.
I began to expect during that time where they were desperate for the sun to rise, and the old man explained that they were waiting, I wanted him to say, 'any minute now', then run a bit more, yelling 'ANY MINUTE NOW!' and making it a joke.
How many said before me, the beauty of this movie is, there is no “Bad guy”, only different point of views. Gods saw humans as monsters who destroys their land. So they started attacking humans to protect the forest. The leader wanted protect humans and give them better life, which means they need more iron, and that destroys the land. They all wanted better life for themself, but they didn’t see they are hurting others, who also only wanted better life.
It's nature, regardless of species, there will always be a battle for territory.
I once read that when it was in movie theatres in Poland many people didn't understant that animations isn't only for children and were very surprised when the went to watch it with really young kids and there were choped off arms flying on the screen XD
Im so glad u guys are watching like all the ghibli's films
もののけ姫は奥が深いからね、初見で内容を理解するのは中々難しいと思う
52:40 Nooo... It's because of the way nature is. If you think nature is all kumbaya and rainbows you've been watching too many Disney cartoons. It's literally dog-eat-dog. Nature is cruel in ways you don't want to imagine.
Your room X'mas decorations are so good. i love your taste.
thank you for your sharing. Suzy!!
My FAV Ghibli movie! LETS GOOO
There was a guy in the islands who was building statues for coral to grow on, and the people who were polluting had something to say. It was a great documentary.
This film is goated. Like literally one of the best films ever.
Such a good story. So many angles and perspectives
1:29:40 It’s funny’s you mentioned Tarzan as Lady Eboshi is voiced by the same person who voiced Jane.
At last! This movie is my favorite! Well that and Castle In The Sky. 😁😁😁
日本アニメのクオリティーの高さは、いつ観ても誰が観ても楽しめる。年齢も国境も超える。
I don't think it's just the anime. It's the story that transcends.
I love how u guys kept calling it pony even though its an elk 🤣.
祟り神をデーモンって訳してるのが残念だな
God of evil meaning the god (Nago and the other) are gods who have turned evil, or theyre being consumed/taken over by the/a god of evil?
Christians gave to the greek work demon an evil sense, daemons were spirits
英語は表現力に乏しい言語だから
@@lucassmith3790 上手く翻訳できてるか分かりませんが、補足です。この物語の場合ですと、元々は良い神だったものが、自然や神を壊そうとする身勝手な人間の所業により、恨みや憎しみを持つようになり、それらに囚われ呪われてしまった神の成れの果てなのです。悪魔とされてる彼らの正式名称はtatarigamiです。tatariとは日本語で『呪う事』や『災い』。gami、またはkamiとは『神』の事です。良い神から悪い神に堕ち、災いをもたらす者になりました。
@@lucassmith3790
It is difficult to apply the concept of good and evil to Japanese gods. Because the Japanese religion of Shinto has no scriptures, the taboos that the gods set vary from one god to another. The difference is whether they are hostile to humans or not.
The God of Nago transformed his power into resentment through a desire for revenge, becoming the “GOD” of “Curse”.
He is not the “god” of “evil.”
In the play, Ashitaka is also transforming into a "Tatarigami."
A Tatarigami (God of Curses) is a wild god that is transformed when an ancient god of the mountains and fields explodes with negative emotions such as anger, sadness, and hatred, absorbing the evil spirits that fill the fields and mountains.
In ancient indigenous Japanese beliefs, monsters and gods are of equal existence.
Sometimes humans who have become vengeful spirits are also worshiped as gods.
As you may know, in Japanese mythology there are said to be eight million gods (an expression meaning "too many to count").
„…soon all of you will feel my hate and suffer as I have suffered…“
My favorite studio ghibli film. I also enjoyed Castle in the Sky. I hope that you do too. Very similar plot type of man vs greed.
People for some reason forget that nature is most cruel concept in existence and all life in nature boils down to breed kill and expand humans have just perfected this.
People who praise nature for its beauty have never seen its cruelty in person there is a reason we as a species have basically spent our entire time harnessing and controlling nature to whatever degree we could.
The vogue reference came out of no where and I was ready for it🤣
Thank you thank you thank you for doing this one . In my top 3 anime all time . Thanks again
This couple reactor is so cute! :) Binge watching your reactions to my favourite movies
japanese gods, kami, can be like them. they are not necessarily good for human. and we thought we need to calm them down in order to avoid disasters.
Did y’all notice the lepers were all cured at the end? Pay close attention at 1:45:26
This is my favorite movie of all time
Funfact I actually have a tattoo of San, as princess mononoke was the first dabble into anime, then it was howls moving Castle and that was when I truly fell in love with anime
Yeah, I feel like people forget some things and get this idea of "living in harmony". Sure there is "living in harmony", but not like that, at least not in this like. Everything that lives needs the death of other things to live. Look at trees. They live, die, and decay, and that provides nutrients for the next trees. The wolfs even had animal pelts in this movie. Animals push other animals out too. It's hard to say where the right and wrong is. While I do think this movie definingly leans more toward one side, I'm glad it's not just saying humans bad, animals good, like I feel like other stories like this do.
in 98 or 99, my cousin brought this movie on a laser disc, saying it just came out, and i was just used to Disney movies until then.
It has been my fav animation movie ever since.
I love this Movie 😍
We living in this high-tech world, overusing the resources, and saying the village people of this film are the "villains" 😂😂😂
Do we hunt? Yes. Do we cut the trees? Yes. Do we use the land? Yes. We are not just building villages but BIG CITIES. This film teaches us to respect and live in harmony with the nature. It's not about good vs evil.
It's just how nature is. Humans are the dominant species on the planet and if there's one thing nature shows is the strongest species takes over. That's just how it is. Even in the animal kingdom, the strong devour the weak.
In this movie, it's obvious that humans couldn't hope to survive in the wilderness so they had to innovate by making guns and explosives in order to survive and thrive.
People say the humans in this movie and coexist with the inhabitants of the forest but that's an naive dream. There will always be a fight for territory.
Fun fact: This was unintentionally the first pg 13 movie I ever watched. Once the one guy got his arms removed, I looked at the back of the dvd case and saw it was pg 13 xD
I like this film. The music is epic. I recommand Laputa, the castle in the sky, my fav Ghibili film.
ohhh I wish you guys could understand Japanese language because in English it sounds too direct and can't tell what we really wanna tell. Our language is complicated...Like even if someone says harsh thing to another, it can mean love. Like Toki, she really loves her husband.
I love watching anime in Japanese. I prefer Japanese language in this movie. ❤❤❤❤❤
Legendary Ghibli Movie.....the ending made me cry
I love princess Mononoke
Steejo love that dad jokes
Then people call these animals gods because of translation.
The original word is "kami" which doesn't really mean God or deity - more like a powerful spirit.
There's no accurate translation for Kami, so they choose god.
But Kami have much more in common with nature spirits from folklore than with pagan gods for example.
all around the world during medieval times up, until around the industrial revolution, when people's life average life expectancy was 40-50, 15 was considered a legal adult. Some arranged marriages were even consummated at 13.
You should do “madhouse” movies in the near future too, there are amazing films that shook my soul as much as Ghibli did.
Love the content good work suzeeeee
My favorite movie!
リアクションがザ・アメリカンって感じやな
As a kid this movie was cool and that was it but as I grew old and watched it again I felt sad probably because I understand it more but man I love this movie.
英語だと、あれもこれもデーモンだな
美しいがbeautifulなのはちょっと…うーん…笑
一神教のキリスト教やユダヤ教イスラム教もヤハウェ以外は超自然的存在はデーモンとしか理解できないのでしょう
八百万の神を理解できるのはかろうじてギリシャの人々だけかも😅
It's all shades of gray, which is what makes it so unique and great.
Merry Christmas Suzy! 🎄❤️
Am I the only one who is angry that they keep calling the elk a pony? :/
its a joke
lmao
Thanks for sharing your reaction video 😃
It's good opportunity for me to study English . I have enjoyed your videos repeatedly for 1 years and at last I became a human who can almost understand what you said by just watching your videos 😳
I don't know that my sentence is right grammatically or not but I just want to express my gratitude and I hope keep going 😁
By the way , ghibli has released a lot of interesting films . Each film has thought-provoking massage . I recommend enjoying other ghibli films 😃 anyway thanks !
This is my favorite movie.
27:25 男性の方よそ見して見逃してるの草
i just found these studio ghibli reaction vids and now i’m binge watching every single one
Really great movie.
still my favorite Ghibli for the action
My most favorite scene 23:33 how Ashitaka is honest and brave man ? I love this scene a lot.
Miyazaki doesn't, generally, believe in irredeemable villains. One of the few examples I can think of is Muska in Castle in the Sky.
What I never understood about this movie, was why did they banish Ashitaka completly? What if he'd found a way to break the curse, they wouldn't want him back?
Ancient japanese ( and ainu) people thought that the person who was cursed by gods(spirits) brought evil upon their country. And, they thought that the person once polluted never returns to the pure soul , like a bent paper. ( If my english isn’t correct, I’m so sorry.)
I have always wached this movie in japanese with subs, and never heard the dubbed actors. Pretty cool to hear Billy Bob Thornton and Jada Pinket Smith on the voiceover. And agent Scully herself as Moro? Did the movie justice.
個人的に次は（天空の城ラピュタ）と（風の谷のナウシカ）と（借りぐらしのアリエッティ）と（猫の恩返し）を見て欲しいです！どれもジブリでとても面白いんです💗
Totally agree with you