Second-degree murder? No, this was first-degree, pre-planned, execution. He had HOURS to change his mind while driving to their home. How is this only second-degree murder?
He's filing some kind of motion that he had ineffective counsel and that the police held a grudge against him. He's a spoiled, sick brat who needs to just STFU and wait until the parole board laughs in his face. Clown 🤡
I wondered about this too: apparently first degree murder is a rarer charge in NY. There are a few strict criteria a crime must meet or it's second-degree. So while this has the 'second degree' label, for all intents and purposes it is a premeditated murder, hence the life sentence.
The thought of Peter Porco wandering around his house trying to get ready to go to work and attempting to pack his lunch while dying from an axe attack just breaks my heart.
This case has always bothered me because of Peter’s attempt to start his day with a severe brain injury and the mother’s refusal to believe her son did it. It’s just heartbreaking. I wonder how the other son feels about it all. 😢
@@ailleananaithnid2566 lots of people are in an autopilot haze first thing in the morning! You learn not to think, just DO. Putting one foot in front of the other and you wake up halfway out the door! LOL
This is one of the weirdest and saddest stories I've ever heard. Poor Peter going through his morning routine aimlessly and mortally wounded is incredibly sad.
If I were the brother I’d struggle with my mother standing by the “man” who maimed her and killed my father. I’d probably have to tell myself it was the damage to her brain to be able to deal with it.
Both sides of the family know Chris did it. Only his mother stands by him. Interestingly she moved to an apartment near where Chris is incarcerated so she can visit him.
I guess her trauma has taken a toll on her mental health. If guilt is behind her actions how would she get through this time except by being around to visit him. Time and getting to know him better might cure her. Poor woman. 😕
When I was 15 Our family Doctor and his wife were murdered by their son who was in the class above us. This murderer was hyper active, oblivious and harmful to students. He was tried as an adult. The violent deaths of Dr. and Mrs.B really shook our small town up. Oddly no one ever talked about it and yet Dr.Bresnann was the only doctor in town, everybody knew him and the family. Often wonder what happened to the sister, she was just a year older than Jim, He used a knife, not just shooting. He lied and tried to cover it up by saying a stranger came to the camp grounds and killed them. I haven't been able to deal with it until lately. It just never made sense to me. But when 24 years ago my daughter said she wanted to kill me I listened to that and so after many years of her hate and anger I removed myself from the continent. I had to come to terms with why she felt that way and that it wasn't going to change.I saw similarities in her behaviors and traits and other dangerous people and so I heeded my instincts. It hasn't been easy. The need to keep mothering is very strong.
I've got family like Porco, who spent all his teen years ripping his mom's all-gold jewelry off time & time again, stealing brother's check book & forging checks & they apparently just never did _anything_ about it & it only got worse as years later father died & ultimately the "kid" gained control of the family goods, the house & even his mom as she was dying, then letting her beloved cat outside in a snow storm to disappear forever. _WAKE UP, PEOPLE, FRIENDS & FAMILY'LL DO IT TO YOU FASTER THAN TOTAL STRANGERS_ . If you stop trusting a family member, make damned sure you take steps to protect yourself from them in EVERY way possible...it might save your life .
I have disowned some. One is dangerous i think. Druggie and drunk. Stole her 80 something grandmothers car. Stole her pain meds and even the robe I bought her grandma. I finally told her I was done and lose my phone number. She moved several states away a day or two after her grandmother died. 40 something and still acting like a teen.
You have to leave and never look back. They will persist though saying we are family, relatives. Don't fall for it. Ever. There is such a thing as the bad seed, sometimes bad seeds as in multiples. People do not change. Better to break one's bread alone than live in fear.
What blew me away in this case was the fact that a severely injured Peter came to and set about his daily routine like a zombie. He washed his teeth, started breakfast and even went to pick up his newspaper before succumbing to his injuries. One explanation given was that as his neocortex (the outer part of our brain) was severy damaged, his paleocortex (which is responsible for second nature took over, guiding the body to go through his routine habits. I remember first seeing that in a CSI episode and then heard about the Porco case.
Considering the fact that the ax destroyed parts of Peters brain that made him unable to recognize pain or that he was injured while still keeping the part of brain that controls daily function alive I feel the mother may have extreme brain damage and not even be able to understand that her son killed her husband let alone accept it.
It’s probably too painful for him to admit that it was her son. The betrayal of your kids when you are vulnerable is a hard pill to swallow but boy it is deadly to let it remain stuck in your throat.
@@stubstunner first of all a doctor wouldn't be the one to decide that, a neurologist would. And second of all it was confirmed by those neurologists that she had severe brain damage from the attack and suffered memory loss. So yeah it kinda is a professional opinion LMAO
The first for me is a story of a guy in Afghanistan after an IED. The Hummer landed upside down and blew the guy's head off, it landed in between his legs and the other guy still in the seatbelt and seat saw him look at the body, realization flickering in his eyes, then at the guy in the seat and screamed but no sound came out because of no lungs. That lasted for all of 2 seconds then he was dead. I'm not doing the story justice... It was horrible!
I remember this case on forensic files many years ago and it was always so heartbreaking how the father still keep going with his routine and didn’t know he had been bludgeoned to death
@Sabrina Rodriguez The same for me. I live FF. Do you watch on YT. Of course I found Dr. G. I can say that parents but mother's don't always deny a child's guilt, but still love them. However when you know your child's guilty but won't admit it. As well as do things to support them. It's baffling. My friend was murdered by her husband. A case not far from Univ. of Rochester. A suburb just outside called Greece, NY. 💙 KH
The brain is astounding when dealing with physical trauma and shock. When my father in law was in a car accident and all his teeth were knocked out he was sitting there when police arrived trying to eat peanuts.
I remember this case from forensic files too but completely abolished from memory him doing his routine in that state; absolutely devastating to hear...
I can't help but think that the brother, Johnathan has to be dealing with an unusual situation when he sees his mother. He is the son of a murdered father and a mother who survived the attempt on her life. His mother is left with severe permanent injuries. His only brother is the obvious killer. Yet his mother staunchly defends and very publicly proclaims his brother's innocence. Surely Johnathan must be experiencing conflicting emotions.
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This story shows how complex families are. The outcome should have been two murdered parents. Christopher tried his best but his mother survived. Horrible situation for a parent to be in - a child who wanted to kill them. Hope Joan and the other child have found some peace.
Not a chance. How can the other brother deal with his mother fawning over a sibling who tried to kill her and killed their father. Guaranteed the other brother is going to have a tough time dealing with his mother’s favouritism.
Jonathan was in the military and lived in another state at the time of the murder. Its a shame he really lost his whole family. He was a good young man.
I watched a lot of these videos and I've never been shook before as I after having watched this. What he did was just horrific and what made it worse was the aftermath with his parents, this was done by someone who was full of hate and malice. His parents truly loved him and he felt nothing he wasn't abused or taken advantage of. And father oh man that just broke my heart that man didn't deserve to die like that
Sounds like Christopher's mother isn't cognitively able to work through the trauma of her son's violence so she's just gone deep denial. If it makes her more able to get on with her life, I can't say it's wrong. Christopher is safely locked up regardless.
Could also be desperately trying to salvage the remnants of the family unit. Or maybe could be one of the very few who takes responsibility of springing unsolicited existence in a dystopian world, on someone. It’s always very hard to decipher what someone else’s thought process is.
@@rowdyninja8529 damn I love that second paragraph you wrote, most parents are not only not aware of that, but ironically act like they did you a favor. Fuck people who think that way.
So, Christopher never had to worry about being nominated as 'Son of the year'!! I have followed this sick case for nearly two decades and it sadly never ceases to be shocking. This judge attempting to murder the 1st Amendment...........Dr. G never ceases to crack me up!! Jim C.
Having watched this event closely, I'm amazed how 16 years after he's still trying to manipulate his way out of it, and one thing I think you haven't mentioned was the support of his employer who he also burglarized, incredible! Great post Doctor, I loved it very well explained.
I guess it's easier for some parents, especially mothers, to live in extremely deep denial instead of accepting that their son or daughter is a monster. Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy and Tim Norman's mother, Miss Robbie both come to mind.
If the last 7 years or so have taught me anything about humanity, it's that a large swath of the population refuses to acknowledge reality even when its staring them in the face. This mother has PLENTY of company.
My sister lived a few houses away from the Porco’s in Delmar. I live on the other side of Albany and remember this case very well. It’s so sad. I’ve seen his Mom in the market. It’s awful what was done to her n her husband. She’s severely disfigured.Christopher’s own parents. I can’t imagine harming another and the thought of harming my own parents is unimaginable. Most of the people in the neighborhood thought he was capable of this and the immediate buzz was that it was him. It’s rumored that she knows he’s guilty but loves him anyway. She blames herself for going wrong somewhere as a parent. Again, it’s pure speculation on my part. I don’t know if this is really true or not. Delmar is a close knit community and the Porco’s were very well liked people. People still talk about it. Mr. Porco was beloved at his job. He is sorely missed. My prayers to Mrs. Porco. 🙏🏾
@@joincoffee9383 , From what I understand he’s a great guy and well liked. He was in the service when this happened. Of course he came home immediately. He believes his brother is guilty. That I know. I don’t know if he’s here in the area or not. He may still be in the service. I’ll ask my friends who still live in Delmar if they know.
@@TallulahBelle3276 thank you for your reply. I think lots are determined by a person’s own choices, unless one is really truly psychotic and behave madly day in and day out.
@@joincoffee9383 , I think he was overindulged. They weren’t rich but they grew up in what’s considered a middle class neighborhood that has really nice homes. The school district is one of the finest in our area. As a kid he never wanted for anything. Clothes, and all the things kids want. He kept stealing money from his parents when he went away to college (fraudulently) n his father threatened to cut him off. He was spending their money like it was his job. That was shortly before he murdered his father but failed at killing his mother. The two children were going to inherit money. That’s why they presume he did it motive wise. From the things that came out in the trial it appears they were good parents n good people. I remember Peter’s coworkers on the news being very emotional talking about him n what a wonderful man he was to everyone. He was an Appellate Division court clerk. No abuse or violence in the home. His brother is nothing like him n offers no defense of a bad or abusive childhood.
OMG, thank you, Dr. Grande! I have asked numerous times that you analyze this case over the past few years. You finally did it! Thanks so much and I agree with your synopsis 100%!
The failing out of college factor reminds me of Chandler Halderson. I wonder what it is about people not wanting to admit defeat when it comes to education. Instead chosing murder.
What a disturbing and gruesome case! The fact thst he chose an ax to muder his parents is so beyond brutal! Incredible content as always, Dr. Grande! Thank you so much for all of your incredible work!! ♡♡
I hope that his mother keeps visiting him as often as she can and that it drives Christopher absolutely crazy that he didn't kill her and that she is a living testament to his failure and the fact that he is not now "rolling" in money.
Watching a doc on this case that poor father doing his normal routine was heartbreaking. That thing who calls himself a son is horrific. He deserves every minute in prison. I hope one day she does understand it was him and his alone!! He always was a selfish liar and I'm sure her guilt is driving her belief in him
The father’s post-injury behaviour reminds me of a case I saw in a very sad documentary years ago. I can’t recall the names of the victims but the perpetrator murdered a woman, her husband, her younger son, and kidnapped her daughter. He murdered the family with a hammer. He also struck the older son, age 13, in the head with the hammer. As he drove away with the daughter, she saw her brother grab his bleeding head and attempt to sit at the picnic table but was unable to and fell to the ground and also died. It was such a disturbing case. The girl was rescued by a heroic and clever and observant waitress. The killer was arrested. I often consider the poor teenage boy, trying to rest his battered body at that table and it’s so heartbreaking. His actions reminded me of this father in this story.
Thank you Dr Grande for the comments at the end of this case. Peter rationally understood that his son was a psychopath. Peter could not emotionally accept the reality . Peter hoped that his son could be redeemed. Isn’t that similar to “Denial “ in psychology. A defense mechanism that must be much more stronger than I thought.
Dear Dr. Grande, I recently realised that families with two sons tend to fall prey to these types of murders more often than other types of families. Is there any correlation?
This is such an old case! I couldn't ever believe she would not remember or accuse him because he definitely did it. No way with the evidence that he didn't. So strange. Thank you Dr Grande for your take on this case. You always bring up great points on each subject you discuss.
This happened near where I live. This happened in Delmare, a suburb of Albany, NY. I live in Troy, a city right outside of Albany. It was huge news back in the day, as you can imagine.
I just moved to Colonie from Delmar this past October...I think Dr. Grande should look into the case from Lansingburgh where the waitress from Verdiles ended up in a suitcase in the Hudson....I believe that was in 2015. I was working at the Troy Public Library in downtown Troy then...
This happened when I was attending Bethlehem High School in Delmar ( the school is about 2 mins away from their house) It was absolutely crazy. After it happened, Joan was seen out with Christopher around town before he was convicted...
I love how you force a smile for the ad. Not that I'm picking on anybody, but the lighting and the "hide the pain Harold" look gives away an uncanny vibe. I genuinely enjoy it and I can see how you can go even darker on those ads, especially in a Halloween episode or something.
My favorite part about these cases is watching them (Christopher Porco, Amber Heard, and all the others ) talk in media interviews or police interrogations, and think that they can convince everyone they're totally innocent. He's so arrogant as he's holding his mothers hand and smiling while her face is all disfigured from him hitting her with an ax. Doesn't bother him one bit. They're so stupid, thinking they can talk their way out of anything because they grew up that way. Fooling their parents and getting away with everything. I can go on forever because he makes me so mad.
Yes christopher is disgusting. Amber heard is not in the same category it is wrong to put her in the same sentence as this monster who killed his parents, she has committed no such violent crime
Narcissists and borderlines are dangerous. Run for the hills as soon as you know they are one and cut off all contact if possible. Even the seemingly not-so-dangerous-yet ones do have the potential to develop into one. I have seen one narcissist acting more and more in harmful ways. They change, and most often to the worse direction. The older they get, they more diabolical they are and they behave. It’s hard to believe they can, but the fact they keep lowering their moral standard has gradually convinced me to expect the worst from these personalities. There’s no limit to how low and cruel these characters can go. Experience and educating myself on Cluster B personalities has helped me reaching this mental clarity. Thank goodness for the availability of educational contents on the internet nowadays. I believe it has saved lots of innocent victims lives, or mental and physical health. I grew up knowing my borderline mom is the most dangerous person on earth that can kill or harm us kids badly. My dad recently told me on the phone that he felt she’s a scary psychopath and could kill. I could imagine his eyes filled with terror when he voluntarily told me this. Meanwhile he hasn’t treated us kids good either, he’s more of the neglecting, selfish and occasionally abusive parent, and often was and still is my mom’s flying monkey in abusing us so he can save his own ass by joining her. He’s a man coward, I have zero respect for him. I am a parent now, I can’t help comparing him with myself as parent, and he has less than one tenth of the giving, caring and protection I have given to my children.
There is a Forensic Files episode dedicated to this. Fascinating example of paleocortex being intact....the victim went about his morning routine.... unaware of the seriousness of the attack, or of being attacked at all.
The REAL legends remember this case from Forensic Files. Saw it in school for a forensics class, always loved the show so that episode stuck in my head, I also drive the same style yellow Jeep so this case never leaves my head
I tell yeah, I've got to save this clip for my own family court. My husband was abusive and ended up killing himself. They are in such deep denial that they think I killed him....despite all the facts. And they cannot get out of their denial that he wasn't even a good person. Being able to see the truth is unbelievably hard and thankfully they were ordered to seek counseling.
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Oh this is a great real life story to do a commentary on. I actually watched that movie. In it, it said he was good at computers and was somehow able to get in to the university's report card site and change all his failing grades, to A's. Then presented it to his mother. Dr. Grande I've often wondered how he feels when his mother visits him in prison. You just made a great point. I truly believe he gets pleasure from seeing his mom viciously axed by him and knowing she still believes he is innocent. I've also watched this case on unsolved mysteries and forensic files. It is extremely heart breaking to watch his dad walk around the house after the brutal attack and blood is gushing out everywhere. Such a sad story! He's right where he belongs!
This was a fascinating case, once again, covered by the best tv show of all time: Forensic Files 🙌🏻. As always, I absolutely love the Doc’s take and perspective on true crime stories such as these.
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Her being alive and thinking he is innocent probably makes his life in prison a lot better. I imagine she spends as much money on him as she can afford. So he doesn't have to eat the prison food or so he can pay for protection. Time on the phone.. Which is severely overpriced. Yeah he is probably using her as a meal ticket in there while bragging to his close friends about how he tried to kill her now she buys him everything in prison.
As a mother, my heart goes out to the Mom in this case. It's all so very sad and tragic. Clearly he' guilty and the mother can't accept that. It's frightening (and incredible) what our psyches can shield us from.
Right before his trial, he came into the grocery store where I worked at while at college in Albany. I stared at him, trying to place him. As he walked by, my friend whispered to me that it was him. He turned around and gave me the creepiest smile… still gives me the chills to this day.
Next time you're feeling down remember life is all about perspective. I have a friend who has sex 2-3 times a day, exercises twice a day, reads two books a week yet every day he complains about how much he hates prison.
Beyond heartbreaking, that poor innocent woman. What a mother she is. Literally an angel, just so damn heartbreaking. That poor father, I mean your own child, your own flesh and blood? It’s agonizing to really think about, I’m not surprised the mother forgot, may god have mercy on their souls.
In every murder case where the family has some or all of their members disbelieving that someone in their clan could commit murder in spite of all of the evidence...I feel terrible for them because the continue to enable the bad person and hide the truth from themselves...to their detriment. Sometimes they wake up but sadly not before a lot more psychological damage is done on top of the crime or crimes that led them there in the first place.
Peter Porco reminds me of Jeff Dahmer's father, still believing at the bitter end that his son could be redeemed and "get better."😓 Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande! Well done as always.
I heard a long time ago somebody say that a virtue take it to extreme becomes a vice. It is very clear from the story that is sadly true. Unconditional love has a dark side. Excellent analysis as usual, Dr. Grande!
Always interesting to see something local on RUclips. This all went down like a half hour away from the house that I grew up in. I first heard of the case as it happened while working at a café during my college years
The fact that he is so emotionless and devoid of remorse is chilling. Was the Father's ability to feel pain severely compromised due to the vicious attack? RIP 😔💔
I just love hearing you telling a stories it so relaxing and interesting how people can do the crimes they do! That’s why it interests me ,I just can’t fathom the idea of what they all do , thank you .
Good morning Dr. Grande. Thank you, can't wait, there's a message in here for me right now (unfortunately). PS I've disconnected cable service, you're all I need ❤
Omg! This case always baffled me. I felt for the mom don’t get me wrong but I would just shake my head.. it’s sad really. So glad Dr. G covered this one!
Hi Dr. Grande. This case was really crazy. How can his Mom be so unconcerned ,when it was the parents who were responsible for making sure the children were brought up properly? Sometimes kids are out if line but that doesn't justify sorry behavior at all. As always, you gave a fair analysis that was honest explaining his psychonarc behaviors. Peaceful & happy times hopefully await you & your family as well. Love, Janine McCartha AKA Smiley🙂😀🤩😎😍✌👍☕🍩☕🥞👠📿💄🛍👙💅👚👖👗👕👒👑🆒️💯
I actually think it continues to enable him. He doesn't have normal feelings of empathy, guilt or remorse. She's just an object for him. She lost her husband (and possibly relationship with her other son? IDK) so she clings to the psychopath who "needs her". I feel sorry for Joan Porco.
Second-degree murder? No, this was first-degree, pre-planned, execution. He had HOURS to change his mind while driving to their home. How is this only second-degree murder?
Maybe the prosecution thought it would be easier to get a conviction on 2nd degree?
In NYS first degree murder is reserved for the killing of law enforcement officers
It doesn't matter though. Even if he doesn't die before he gets out he's going to be an old man.
He's filing some kind of motion that he had ineffective counsel and that the police held a grudge against him. He's a spoiled, sick brat who needs to just STFU and wait until the parole board laughs in his face. Clown 🤡
I wondered about this too: apparently first degree murder is a rarer charge in NY. There are a few strict criteria a crime must meet or it's second-degree. So while this has the 'second degree' label, for all intents and purposes it is a premeditated murder, hence the life sentence.
The thought of Peter Porco wandering around his house trying to get ready to go to work and attempting to pack his lunch while dying from an axe attack just breaks my heart.
i agree, horrible
Absolutely disgusting on the part of the son. But this is nevertheless total NPC behavior.
Mine, too. Just so sad he would hurt his father instead of getting himself together.
This case has always bothered me because of Peter’s attempt to start his day with a severe brain injury and the mother’s refusal to believe her son did it. It’s just heartbreaking. I wonder how the other son feels about it all. 😢
Peter was on automatic pilot. I agree the whole idea is quite creepy. I doubt that he would have survived even if he’d gotten help while still alive.
Nightmare fuel
He wants nothing to do with the fuckin creep.
It's like they were already on auto play and in denial for years.
@@ailleananaithnid2566 lots of people are in an autopilot haze first thing in the morning! You learn not to think, just DO. Putting one foot in front of the other and you wake up halfway out the door! LOL
This is one of the weirdest and saddest stories I've ever heard. Poor Peter going through his morning routine aimlessly and mortally wounded is incredibly sad.
Disturbing and eerie
He was most likely unaware of the horrors he had gone through.
If I were the brother I’d struggle with my mother standing by the “man” who maimed her and killed my father. I’d probably have to tell myself it was the damage to her brain to be able to deal with it.
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Both sides of the family know Chris did it. Only his mother stands by him.
Interestingly she moved to an apartment near where Chris is incarcerated so she can visit him.
@+①②⓪①⑨②②⑤⑤④③WHATS'ApPME If only Christopher went after you instead of his family.
I guess her trauma has taken a toll on her mental health. If guilt is behind her actions how would she get through this time except by being around to visit him. Time and getting to know him better might cure her. Poor woman. 😕
No matter how many times I see this case on forensic files I still shake my head at how someone could do this to their parents.
When I was 15 Our family Doctor and his wife were murdered by their son who was in the class above us. This murderer was hyper active, oblivious and harmful to students. He was tried as an adult. The violent deaths of Dr. and Mrs.B really shook our small town up. Oddly no one ever talked about it and yet Dr.Bresnann was the only doctor in town, everybody knew him and the family. Often wonder what happened to the sister, she was just a year older than Jim, He used a knife, not just shooting. He lied and tried to cover it up by saying a stranger came to the camp grounds and killed them. I haven't been able to deal with it until lately. It just never made sense to me. But when 24 years ago my daughter said she wanted to kill me I listened to that and so after many years of her hate and anger I removed myself from the continent. I had to come to terms with why she felt that way and that it wasn't going to change.I saw similarities in her behaviors and traits and other dangerous people and so I heeded my instincts. It hasn't been easy. The need to keep mothering is very strong.
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I was just rewatching Forensic Files and thought I would look for any updates. Imagine my delight to see Dr G reviewing the case
I've got family like Porco, who spent all his teen years ripping his mom's all-gold jewelry off time & time again, stealing brother's check book & forging checks & they apparently just never did _anything_ about it & it only got worse as years later father died & ultimately the "kid" gained control of the family goods, the house & even his mom as she was dying, then letting her beloved cat outside in a snow storm to disappear forever. _WAKE UP, PEOPLE, FRIENDS & FAMILY'LL DO IT TO YOU FASTER THAN TOTAL STRANGERS_ . If you stop trusting a family member, make damned sure you take steps to protect yourself from them in EVERY way possible...it might save your life .
No I think your guilty conscience is crying out for help.... Common tell us where you hid the bodies... 😐
I have disowned some. One is dangerous i think. Druggie and drunk. Stole her 80 something grandmothers car. Stole her pain meds and even the robe I bought her grandma. I finally told her I was done and lose my phone number. She moved several states away a day or two after her grandmother died. 40 something and still acting like a teen.
I absolutely agree.
@@user-rp4rj8gf3w Not funny.
You have to leave and never look back.
They will persist though saying we are family, relatives.
Don't fall for it. Ever.
There is such a thing as the bad seed, sometimes bad seeds as in multiples.
People do not change.
Better to break one's bread alone than live in fear.
What blew me away in this case was the fact that a severely injured Peter came to and set about his daily routine like a zombie. He washed his teeth, started breakfast and even went to pick up his newspaper before succumbing to his injuries. One explanation given was that as his neocortex (the outer part of our brain) was severy damaged, his paleocortex (which is responsible for second nature took over, guiding the body to go through his routine habits. I remember first seeing that in a CSI episode and then heard about the Porco case.
Considering the fact that the ax destroyed parts of Peters brain that made him unable to recognize pain or that he was injured while still keeping the part of brain that controls daily function alive I feel the mother may have extreme brain damage and not even be able to understand that her son killed her husband let alone accept it.
sounds like most people. brain dead zealots going thru the motions.
It’s probably too painful for him to admit that it was her son. The betrayal of your kids when you are vulnerable is a hard pill to swallow but boy it is deadly to let it remain stuck in your throat.
Is that your professional opinion, doctor?
@@stubstunner first of all a doctor wouldn't be the one to decide that, a neurologist would. And second of all it was confirmed by those neurologists that she had severe brain damage from the attack and suffered memory loss. So yeah it kinda is a professional opinion LMAO
@@amaryllisflower then why did you present it as your opinion instead of that of the neurologists lol
Dad's automatic motions after being attacked is one of the weirdest things I have heard of. What a truly chilling story!
The first for me is a story of a guy in Afghanistan after an IED. The Hummer landed upside down and blew the guy's head off, it landed in between his legs and the other guy still in the seatbelt and seat saw him look at the body, realization flickering in his eyes, then at the guy in the seat and screamed but no sound came out because of no lungs. That lasted for all of 2 seconds then he was dead.
I'm not doing the story justice... It was horrible!
@@We_Are_All_Vultures omg that's horrendous 😢
I remember this case on forensic files many years ago and it was always so heartbreaking how the father still keep going with his routine and didn’t know he had been bludgeoned to death
@Sabrina Rodriguez The same for me. I live FF. Do you watch on YT. Of course I found Dr. G.
I can say that parents but mother's don't always deny a child's guilt, but still love them. However when you know your child's guilty but won't admit it. As well as do things to support them. It's baffling. My friend was murdered by her husband. A case not far from Univ. of Rochester. A suburb just outside called Greece, NY.
💙 KH
I know the ep - it's haunting (although reconstructed).
The brain is astounding when dealing with physical trauma and shock. When my father in law was in a car accident and all his teeth were knocked out he was sitting there when police arrived trying to eat peanuts.
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I remember this case from forensic files too but completely abolished from memory him doing his routine in that state; absolutely devastating to hear...
I can't help but think that the brother, Johnathan has to be dealing with an unusual situation when he sees his mother. He is the son of a murdered father and a mother who survived the attempt on her life. His mother is left with severe permanent injuries. His only brother is the obvious killer. Yet his mother staunchly defends and very publicly proclaims his brother's innocence.
Surely Johnathan must be experiencing conflicting emotions.
I’ve always felt the mother knows deep down what happened in this case.
I hit “thumbs up” during the introduction. The consistency of the quality of your content is unquestionable. No other creator gets that level of trust from me.
Yes, my thoughts as well!
A high level of trust for Dr. Grande. I think you might want to watch some videos on who is Dr.
Grande, REALLY. Have a good day!
Hear, Hear.
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Omg! You’re smiling face with that Hawaiian shirt! I laughed so hard! You made my morning! I’ve always said, you have to make your advertising seem like content or else you’re wasting your ad dollars. You my friend, did in fact make that ad actual content. You’re the best! thank you for the laughs!🤗
That was adorable. And the cute, bunny salt and pepper shakers!
This story shows how complex families are. The outcome should have been two murdered parents. Christopher tried his best but his mother survived. Horrible situation for a parent to be in - a child who wanted to kill them. Hope Joan and the other child have found some peace.
So Christopher was a bigger failure than he knew
The other brother must be devastated.
Not a chance. How can the other brother deal with his mother fawning over a sibling who tried to kill her and killed their father. Guaranteed the other brother is going to have a tough time dealing with his mother’s favouritism.
Jonathan was in the military and lived in another state at the time of the murder. Its a shame he really lost his whole family. He was a good young man.
@@annwilliams6438 How do you figure there's favouritism?
I watched a lot of these videos and I've never been shook before as I after having watched this. What he did was just horrific and what made it worse was the aftermath with his parents, this was done by someone who was full of hate and malice. His parents truly loved him and he felt nothing he wasn't abused or taken advantage of. And father oh man that just broke my heart that man didn't deserve to die like that
Sounds like Christopher's mother isn't cognitively able to work through the trauma of her son's violence so she's just gone deep denial. If it makes her more able to get on with her life, I can't say it's wrong. Christopher is safely locked up regardless.
I wonder how the other brother feels about it though. I'm sure people have tried to convince her the son is guilty but she refuses to believe it
Could also be desperately trying to salvage the remnants of the family unit.
Or maybe could be one of the very few who takes responsibility of springing unsolicited existence in a dystopian world, on someone.
It’s always very hard to decipher what someone else’s thought process is.
@@rowdyninja8529 damn I love that second paragraph you wrote, most parents are not only not aware of that, but ironically act like they did you a favor. Fuck people who think that way.
it would hard. can you imagine a son, who was still her baby in her mind, attacking with an axe? That's a hard pill to swallow for any parent.
That cannot be true, as most birds don't have penises
A lot of people refuse to believe their kid is the bad one. They cant cope.
his poor father. This is horrible!
So, Christopher never had to worry about being nominated as 'Son of the year'!! I have followed this sick case for nearly two decades and it sadly never ceases to be shocking. This judge attempting to murder the 1st Amendment...........Dr. G never ceases to crack me up!! Jim C.
Having watched this event closely, I'm amazed how 16 years after he's still trying to manipulate his way out of it, and one thing I think you haven't mentioned was the support of his employer who he also burglarized, incredible!
Great post Doctor, I loved it very well explained.
I guess it's easier for some parents, especially mothers, to live in extremely deep denial instead of accepting that their son or daughter is a monster. Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy and Tim Norman's mother, Miss Robbie both come to mind.
Chris Watts as well
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Karla Homolka.
Casey Anthony’s mother knows she’s a monster. So does dad. It took them awhile but they came around.
If the last 7 years or so have taught me anything about humanity, it's that a large swath of the population refuses to acknowledge reality even when its staring them in the face. This mother has PLENTY of company.
My sister lived a few houses away from the Porco’s in Delmar. I live on the other side of Albany and remember this case very well. It’s so sad. I’ve seen his Mom in the market. It’s awful what was done to her n her husband. She’s severely disfigured.Christopher’s own parents. I can’t imagine harming another and the thought of harming my own parents is unimaginable.
Most of the people in the neighborhood thought he was capable of this and the immediate buzz was that it was him. It’s rumored that she knows he’s guilty but loves him anyway. She blames herself for going wrong somewhere as a parent. Again, it’s pure speculation on my part. I don’t know if this is really true or not. Delmar is a close knit community and the Porco’s were very well liked people. People still talk about it. Mr. Porco was beloved at his job. He is sorely missed. My prayers to Mrs. Porco. 🙏🏾
What is his brother like? I am wondering how personality are determined by nature, nurture and of course choices a person makes.
@@joincoffee9383 , From what I understand he’s a great guy and well liked. He was in the service when this happened. Of course he came home immediately. He believes his brother is guilty. That I know. I don’t know if he’s here in the area or not. He may still be in the service. I’ll ask my friends who still live in Delmar if they know.
@@TallulahBelle3276 thank you for your reply. I think lots are determined by a person’s own choices, unless one is really truly psychotic and behave madly day in and day out.
@@joincoffee9383 , I think he was overindulged. They weren’t rich but they grew up in what’s considered a middle class neighborhood that has really nice homes. The school district is one of the finest in our area. As a kid he never wanted for anything. Clothes, and all the things kids want. He kept stealing money from his parents when he went away to college (fraudulently) n his father threatened to cut him off. He was spending their money like it was his job. That was shortly before he murdered his father but failed at killing his mother. The two children were going to inherit money. That’s why they presume he did it motive wise. From the things that came out in the trial it appears they were good parents n good people. I remember Peter’s coworkers on the news being very emotional talking about him n what a wonderful man he was to everyone. He was an Appellate Division court clerk. No abuse or violence in the home. His brother is nothing like him n offers no defense of a bad or abusive childhood.
Your welcome, @Join. Coffee.
I agree with your comments.
OMG, thank you, Dr. Grande! I have asked numerous times that you analyze this case over the past few years. You finally did it! Thanks so much and I agree with your synopsis 100%!
The failing out of college factor reminds me of Chandler Halderson. I wonder what it is about people not wanting to admit defeat when it comes to education. Instead chosing murder.
As a mother, I can't imagine. What an awful realization to have to accept.
Do you think you would be able to? Process any of this?
Joan was in denial before he attacked her & continues to do so.
There’s mother’s love and then there’s blindness to the truth!
What a disturbing and gruesome case! The fact thst he chose an ax to muder his parents is so beyond brutal!
Incredible content as always, Dr. Grande! Thank you so much for all of your incredible work!! ♡♡
I hope that his mother keeps visiting him as often as she can and that it drives Christopher absolutely crazy that he didn't kill her and that she is a living testament to his failure and the fact that he is not now "rolling" in money.
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He’s a psychopath. Doesn’t care
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Watching a doc on this case that poor father doing his normal routine was heartbreaking. That thing who calls himself a son is horrific. He deserves every minute in prison. I hope one day she does understand it was him and his alone!! He always was a selfish liar and I'm sure her guilt is driving her belief in him
In cases like these I think it is important to psychoanalyse the whole family dynamic since the birth of the child.
The father’s post-injury behaviour reminds me of a case I saw in a very sad documentary years ago. I can’t recall the names of the victims but the perpetrator murdered a woman, her husband, her younger son, and kidnapped her daughter. He murdered the family with a hammer. He also struck the older son, age 13, in the head with the hammer. As he drove away with the daughter, she saw her brother grab his bleeding head and attempt to sit at the picnic table but was unable to and fell to the ground and also died. It was such a disturbing case. The girl was rescued by a heroic and clever and observant waitress. The killer was arrested.
I often consider the poor teenage boy, trying to rest his battered body at that table and it’s so heartbreaking. His actions reminded me of this father in this story.
Thank you Dr Grande for the comments at the end of this case. Peter rationally understood that his son was a psychopath. Peter could not emotionally accept the reality . Peter hoped that his son could be redeemed.
Isn’t that similar to “Denial “ in psychology. A defense mechanism that must be much more stronger than I thought.
Dear Dr. Grande,
I recently realised that families with two sons tend to fall prey to these types of murders more often than other types of families. Is there any correlation?
Men tend to commit the vast majority of violence, so I imagine the more sons you have makes it more likely (even though it’s still extremely unlikely)
Now that you mention it... Wow. You're right. I can think of a few off the top of my head and I'm sure there's many more
Thank you Dr. Grande. This is such a horrific and sad case. And thanks for pointing out the Narcissistic/Sociopathic behavior. It’s so insidious.
God Bless that poor man.... heartbreaking that he walked around after this horrific attack. What an evil spawn
This case I remember well and it hurts my heart💔 but your beaming face in the ad was very healing! You looked so joyful, it was lovely🙌
Dr Grande, I believe that you harbor a secret desire to be a comedian? Very funny, dry, quips. I enjoy your humor.
I've always wondered why he used an axe as a weapon...gotta be something to that. Heartbreaking story.
This is such an old case! I couldn't ever believe she would not remember or accuse him because he definitely did it. No way with the evidence that he didn't. So strange. Thank you Dr Grande for your take on this case. You always bring up great points on each subject you discuss.
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This happened near where I live. This happened in Delmare, a suburb of Albany, NY. I live in Troy, a city right outside of Albany. It was huge news back in the day, as you can imagine.
I just moved to Colonie from Delmar this past October...I think Dr. Grande should look into the case from Lansingburgh where the waitress from Verdiles ended up in a suitcase in the Hudson....I believe that was in 2015. I was working at the Troy Public Library in downtown Troy then...
This happened when I was attending Bethlehem High School in Delmar ( the school is about 2 mins away from their house) It was absolutely crazy. After it happened, Joan was seen out with Christopher around town before he was convicted...
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"Never underestimate the power of denial" (American Beauty).
coming from a Kevin Spacey movie, it has a whole new meaning. 😆
I love how you force a smile for the ad. Not that I'm picking on anybody, but the lighting and the "hide the pain Harold" look gives away an uncanny vibe. I genuinely enjoy it and I can see how you can go even darker on those ads, especially in a Halloween episode or something.
I noticed that. Shit sucked the soul outta him 😓
"Soaking up the summer fun". That hello fresh ad lmao the pic at the end too.
Christopher probably whines and complains to his mother about his struggles in prison.
Only when you ran outta lube... 😢
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Sickening
Probably... because he's nothing but a spoiled, entitled, sociopathic little bitch.
BTW: I live in Albany, NY, and this whole ordeal rocked the area.
My favorite part about these cases is watching them (Christopher Porco, Amber Heard, and all the others ) talk in media interviews or police interrogations, and think that they can convince everyone they're totally innocent. He's so arrogant as he's holding his mothers hand and smiling while her face is all disfigured from him hitting her with an ax. Doesn't bother him one bit. They're so stupid, thinking they can talk their way out of anything because they grew up that way. Fooling their parents and getting away with everything. I can go on forever because he makes me so mad.
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Yes christopher is disgusting. Amber heard is not in the same category it is wrong to put her in the same sentence as this monster who killed his parents, she has committed no such violent crime
Narcissists and borderlines are dangerous. Run for the hills as soon as you know they are one and cut off all contact if possible.
Even the seemingly not-so-dangerous-yet ones do have the potential to develop into one. I have seen one narcissist acting more and more in harmful ways. They change, and most often to the worse direction. The older they get, they more diabolical they are and they behave. It’s hard to believe they can, but the fact they keep lowering their moral standard has gradually convinced me to expect the worst from these personalities. There’s no limit to how low and cruel these characters can go. Experience and educating myself on Cluster B personalities has helped me reaching this mental clarity. Thank goodness for the availability of educational contents on the internet nowadays. I believe it has saved lots of innocent victims lives, or mental and physical health. I grew up knowing my borderline mom is the most dangerous person on earth that can kill or harm us kids badly. My dad recently told me on the phone that he felt she’s a scary psychopath and could kill. I could imagine his eyes filled with terror when he voluntarily told me this. Meanwhile he hasn’t treated us kids good either, he’s more of the neglecting, selfish and occasionally abusive parent, and often was and still is my mom’s flying monkey in abusing us so he can save his own ass by joining her. He’s a man coward, I have zero respect for him. I am a parent now, I can’t help comparing him with myself as parent, and he has less than one tenth of the giving, caring and protection I have given to my children.
Amber is mad at Johnny for choosing drugs over her. But she didn't kill anyone.
@@jaymike3302 what the hell are you going on about!?
There is a Forensic Files episode dedicated to this.
Fascinating example of paleocortex being intact....the victim went about his morning routine.... unaware of the seriousness of the attack, or of being attacked at all.
The hello fresh sitcom was brilliant Dr …..
The REAL legends remember this case from Forensic Files. Saw it in school for a forensics class, always loved the show so that episode stuck in my head, I also drive the same style yellow Jeep so this case never leaves my head
I heard about this on 1 of those true crime shows. Felt so sorry for his mother, she lost her husband and her son.
I've been fascinated with this case from the get go.. it's so strange to me, the mother supporting him..
Omg I'm from this area! I remember seeing this on the news, I was 14 or so. It's such a crazy story!
You're from the area too? I live in Troy.
I lived in Delmar until last October. Now I'm in Colonie...
I tell yeah, I've got to save this clip for my own family court. My husband was abusive and ended up killing himself. They are in such deep denial that they think I killed him....despite all the facts. And they cannot get out of their denial that he wasn't even a good person. Being able to see the truth is unbelievably hard and thankfully they were ordered to seek counseling.
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Oh this is a great real life story to do a commentary on. I actually watched that movie. In it, it said he was good at computers and was somehow able to get in to the university's report card site and change all his failing grades, to A's. Then presented it to his mother.
Dr. Grande I've often wondered how he feels when his mother visits him in prison. You just made a great point. I truly believe he gets pleasure from seeing his mom viciously axed by him and knowing she still believes he is innocent.
I've also watched this case on unsolved mysteries and forensic files. It is extremely heart breaking to watch his dad walk around the house after the brutal attack and blood is gushing out everywhere. Such a sad story! He's right where he belongs!
This was a fascinating case, once again, covered by the best tv show of all time: Forensic Files 🙌🏻. As always, I absolutely love the Doc’s take and perspective on true crime stories such as these.
I remember watching FF. The narrator had the perfect voice for that type of show.
Forensic Files is one of my favorite shows!
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To me this speaks to the incredible power of denial.
As a true crime junkie i ve heard about this case,now let's listen the analysis by dr Grande💙
Came for excellent analysis of the Porco case. Fell in love with the bunny salt and pepper shakers! 🥰
Her being alive and thinking he is innocent probably makes his life in prison a lot better. I imagine she spends as much money on him as she can afford. So he doesn't have to eat the prison food or so he can pay for protection. Time on the phone.. Which is severely overpriced. Yeah he is probably using her as a meal ticket in there while bragging to his close friends about how he tried to kill her now she buys him everything in prison.
I live in Albany. This case was horrifying, and I think you got you analysis spot on!
Omg, I searched for Dr Grande Porco yesterday- I think I manifested this lol
As a mother, my heart goes out to the Mom in this case. It's all so very sad and tragic. Clearly he' guilty and the mother can't accept that. It's frightening (and incredible) what our psyches can shield us from.
Doctor grande how I wish I could have someone like you in the family, all the questions I could be asking, thank you for everything you do.
Right before his trial, he came into the grocery store where I worked at while at college in Albany. I stared at him, trying to place him. As he walked by, my friend whispered to me that it was him. He turned around and gave me the creepiest smile… still gives me the chills to this day.
To see their son turning into this monster must have been truly terrifying and sad for the parents, even long before the murders
Love the snap of the good Dr. enjoying his spaghetti ala shrimp. Bon apetit.
Next time you're feeling down remember life is all about perspective. I have a friend who has sex 2-3 times a day, exercises twice a day, reads two books a week yet every day he complains about how much he hates prison.
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@orange man gas $2 - Oh sir, you are too much!
Beyond heartbreaking, that poor innocent woman. What a mother she is. Literally an angel, just so damn heartbreaking. That poor father, I mean your own child, your own flesh and blood? It’s agonizing to really think about, I’m not surprised the mother forgot, may god have mercy on their souls.
😢 poor sweetheart just heartbreaking 💔
In every murder case where the family has some or all of their members disbelieving that someone in their clan could commit murder in spite of all of the evidence...I feel terrible for them because the continue to enable the bad person and hide the truth from themselves...to their detriment. Sometimes they wake up but sadly not before a lot more psychological damage is done on top of the crime or crimes that led them there in the first place.
Peter Porco reminds me of Jeff Dahmer's father, still believing at the bitter end that his son could be redeemed and "get better."😓 Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande! Well done as always.
I think his mother's injuries make it impossible for her to accept that her son was responsible. I hope her visits traumatize him everytime she goes.
I heard a long time ago somebody say that a virtue take it to extreme becomes a vice. It is very clear from the story that is sadly true. Unconditional love has a dark side. Excellent analysis as usual, Dr. Grande!
That is just so sick and brutal. How does child go from sweet to that callous and vicious? I'll never understand.
Always interesting to see something local on RUclips. This all went down like a half hour away from the house that I grew up in. I first heard of the case as it happened while working at a café during my college years
Hi, this case has always intrigued me. I have watched and read so much about it.
Christopher is definitely guilty. Mom just cannot accept it.
I remember this case. There was a made for TV movie about it, years ago. Thank you for posting, Todd Grande. ❤️
Thanks Dr. Grande. This story is crazy!
The fact that he is so emotionless and devoid of remorse is chilling. Was the Father's ability to feel pain severely compromised due to the vicious attack? RIP 😔💔
I just love hearing you telling a stories it so relaxing and interesting how people can do the crimes they do! That’s why it interests me ,I just can’t fathom the idea of what they all do , thank you .
As a parent that would break my heart knowing one of children tried to kill me and my wife.
Do you have any idea how would you process that?
Very heartbreaking and hard to fathom.
Can you analyze the case of River Phoenix? Love your channel!
Oh man that photo of Dr. Grande at the dinner table ready to eat his spaghetti is so wholesome
I saw this case on TV several times and it is baffling. Great analysis Dr. Grande.
Good morning Dr. Grande. Thank you, can't wait, there's a message in here for me right now (unfortunately). PS I've disconnected cable service, you're all I need ❤
Omg! This case always baffled me. I felt for the mom don’t get me wrong but I would just shake my head.. it’s sad really. So glad Dr. G covered this one!
This case happened not far from where I live and was the ongoing topic of conversation for months. Great job analyzing it, Dr Grande!
Really great analysis Dr. Grande!
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What is it about mom’s of killers named Chris?
Many of the details in this case remind me of the Chandler Halderson case.
Another great one. Thanks Doc!
Hi Dr. Grande. This case was really crazy. How can his Mom be so unconcerned ,when it was the parents who were responsible for making sure the children were brought up properly? Sometimes kids are out if line but that doesn't justify sorry behavior at all. As always, you gave a fair analysis that was honest explaining his psychonarc behaviors. Peaceful & happy times hopefully await you & your family as well. Love, Janine McCartha AKA Smiley🙂😀🤩😎😍✌👍☕🍩☕🥞👠📿💄🛍👙💅👚👖👗👕👒👑🆒️💯
Dr. Grande,
When you have the time can you please cover the story of Steven Cleary in Warnambool, Victoria Australia?
Great points again about faith and narcissism. Always learn new things. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
It must be tough knowing the person you tried to eliminate is visiting you and still giving you love😔
I actually think it continues to enable him. He doesn't have normal feelings of empathy, guilt or remorse. She's just an object for him. She lost her husband (and possibly relationship with her other son? IDK) so she clings to the psychopath who "needs her". I feel sorry for Joan Porco.