What made me personally believe shes a sick monster, besides the obvious, is her hugging Allan and Betty's daughter while she was being told her mother was dead all while knowing she did it. There's something deeply evil and sick about that to me.
I just watched the Hulu dramatization of the Candy Montgomery story. I was STUNNED when she was acquitted. Equally stunned that it took her husband 4 years to divorce her afterwards. That poor baby cried all day long until she was hoarse.
@@Mangzorz We have to save people from destroying themselves with drugs by locking them up in places where drugs are freely available. Why can't you see the logic in that?
Things were different in 1980. Juries gave more weight to hypnosis & mental health expert witness testimony even though they knew much less than we know now. I think they made up for their lack of knowledge with grandiosity and cockiness to impress juries but that’s just my opinion. I’ve heard of other cases from 40 years ago that had strange outcomes but this one takes the cake. And Candy’s tight perm might’ve had some strange power over the men on her life and the jury.
@@edniitacuhhh7054 of course the outcomes will be different lol Different states have different laws…there’s different prosecutors, judges, jurors etc Idk why people act like every trial is created equal, or act surprised when different cases have different outcomes
More people need to study the theory themselves. Doctoral level psychoanalytic theory is not as difficult as medical subjects that require biology. It's a fascinating study and if you just keep up with it you can learn a lot of it on your own.
I am so disgusted with that jury. At the very least Candy could have run to her car. And to leave that little helpless baby. Candy is a dreadful person.
It really depends on what the evidence was and how it was presented to the jury. There have been so many cases of jury trials that would have been decided differently had the jury been shown ALL the evidence.
@@drbqqq1433 That definitely doesn’t make them (the jury) immune to error. Plenty of innocent people have been exonerated after initially being found guilty and a lot of guilty individuals have walked free. Sometimes it’s a matter of incompetent prosecutors/defense attorneys, other times it may be due to loopholes in a broken system, and there are times where I’m sure some of the fault lies within the jury which is made up of imperfect people capable of making mistakes. This should come as no surprise considering how flawed the US criminal justice system is. Sex offenders often receive less time than non-violent offenders struggling with addiction. The jury finding her innocent doesn’t mean anything in my opinion. I don’t personally believe that beating her over 40 times with an axe was self-defense and that seems to be the general consensus. Poor Betty didn’t even die til the end.
@@MAT-xh3cl What a double standard ~ lol. So it’s okay for Depp to lose his mind, because the top of his finger was sliced off? He became deranged painting the walls in the dripping blood and when that ran out, he used red paint. But this woman couldn’t lose it after Betty chopped off part of her toe with the ax? Hmmm? 🤔
I've read the book and researched this case thoroughly. I believe candice was a sick and selfish woman. All she cared about was what the trial did to her image and how it was an inconvenience to her...nevermind that she brutally murdered a woman. She even let her husband believe that her multiple affairs were HIS fault. I believe she got away with murder.
@Millicient Aspinet that's what it sounded like. She had this whole persona she maintained and it was fraudulent. She wanted what she wanted, and she didnt care how it may hurt other people. Even after the trial she genuinely thought things could go back to normal and that "everyone was ready to move on". It was truly insane how out of touch she was with the fact that she slaughtered a woman and called it self defense because Betty said "shh".
What's messed up is she got away with it and has been able to change her name and establish a new life for herself. Apparently she is a mental health counselor? Just awful
@@laur131306 Agreed, excellent post. The only thing I would add is allegedly Betty said "shh". There should be extreme skepticism about any self serving tale Candy spun.
To kill someone,(especially in that manner), proves that the Candy killer never had an image to begin with, at least not a good 1. She just had everyone fooled.
I remember reading a book about this case a while ago. Betty was extremely insecure, had issues with her weight and quiet. Candy was the opposite, well liked in church and social activities, but bored, wanting some excitement. I really think Candy was insane, hiding in plain sight. In the book right after she killed Betty she went home, showered, bandaged her toe then went to a church function. When she heard they found a bloody footprint, she took hedge trimmers and cut up the flips she wore into a million pieces.
@@BrowneyedDiva very interesting yeah she’s crazy. I could not imagine as someone who speaks to a mental health therapist, it blows my mind that she became a mental health counselor. I feel safe with a Dr who has several degrees on his wall. It doesn’t cross my mind oh he got off for murder!
@@_curiouscat_2686 Yep! She lied and covered up her crrime. She put on her "church lady"mask. She was not so "disassociated" that she did not think to do that. Image was everything to Candy. She wanted to maintain to standard in the community. And in her loveless,sexless boring marriage because that was to her advantage.
Betty was completely innocent. That was 1st degree murder.... I just don't get the attraction.... she's very unfortunate looking so I'm not sure how she worked people.....
There had to have been some serious rage to ax someone so many times. An ax is heavy. Repetitively lifting up and going back down would become very exhausting! The jury got this one very wrong!
@@Countsploogula any woman hacking someone 41 times with an axe will be tired unless she normally worked out aerobically regularly in fact try throwing 41 punches ---if you don't workout regularly you will be breathing hard wielding an ax is more difficult than throwing punches
@Future Time Traveller IKR?! I know this is an old post, but dang, 41x? There's a reason that people always swoon over hyper-masculine guys chopping wood in ads and movies. They're always cut.
Having worked in the criminal justice system for a number of years before retiring one thing I learned us to never be surprised at what a jury might do.
@@TheSouthIsHot I mean think about it, with decisions like OJ being acquitted and that cop in the Floyd trial being found guilty, it all comes down to the lawyers, the social feelings of the times, and what evidence the judge permits. It’s rarely just in the justice system. But it’s the best humankind has created thus far. Sadly.
“Unable to stop thinking about her odorous collision with Allan…”😂 This is the most planned and mechanical relationship I haver ever seen, only to render an unfulfilling experience…🤣😂 I know this is an exceedingly tragic case, but I have to admit that the humor was on point. I don’t know which one I like more, the humor or the analysis. 🙌🏼 Thank you as always Dr. Grande, I hope you have a restful weekend ahead.❤️
Imagine going to a mental health counselor in Georgia for marriage counseling, then discovering your counselor had committed adultery, had killed her ex-lover's wife by beating her 41 times with an axe handle, and had left a then-motherless infant unattended for hours. Finding that out would pretty much destroy any confidence I had in any mental health counselor.
I am a counsellor specialising for the last 6 years in psychosocial assessments, prior to that specialising in forensics, men's anger/violence, youth, relationships, terminal illness, and psychiatric conditions. Some of the worst psychopaths I have met are among my own colleagues. The psychology/counselling/psychotherapy industry is infested with psychopaths masquerading as society's good and caring people. The worst hide among those society trusts. I expect one day in the future the lid will get blown off the psychology/counselling industry and the public will find out how morally corrupt it is.
Amazing example of a malfunctioning justice system and absurd mental health counceling services. Your analysis of the case is brilliant. Candy might kill again, given her brutality. She is only concerned by her own needs.
RIP Betty. Candy is insane. Who fights over a man who isn't even any damn good. Lol. Seriously though, this is the unsexiest agreed sexual encounter that I have ever heard. Cheaters are garbage people anyway. Poor kids are without their mom.
@@laur131306 right, she lost and she took it out on Betty. Candy’s marriage sucked and the marriage retreat didn’t work like it did for Betty, and Betty was everything she really was not. A good wife. And Candy hated her for it.
Wow! What a lucky break for Candy that the jury found her not guilty. That is completely wrong and so sad for that little baby to grow up without her mother. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
This is the second topic that I have suggested in the comments section that you have done a video on. I love that you produce so much content and that you are always taking suggestions. You have the best channel 😊
Every ex addict wants to be a counsellor. Every person struggling with mental health, hopes they will be counsellors one day when they get better. Do you really feel that ppl who have suffered something should never counsel in that area? What next? Someone who lost children becoming a grief counsellor? Absurd
@@amandamccormick5009 Absurd is definitely the word I’d use to explain your logic. Of course it makes sense that someone with experience in a certain area in life would be able to counsel others. This lady hacked someone up with a Fucking AX. She’s batshit. How you don’t see that should worry you.
This is just a tragedy slowly unfolding. People meet other people while married and eventually get divorced and then marry. It happens. But affairs are just like walking on hot coals and so many things can and will go wrong. This was just a total mess.
I love the very thin, straight, and symmetrical strip of desk visible at the bottom of the video frame! Attention to detail is one of Dr. Grande's calling cards!
Brilliant analysis as always, Dr Grande! You really nailed it. She was looking for the fantasy from romance novels and that simply just does not exist. It was murder and overkill at that. Thank you for your commentary on this absurd case.
Hold on there. Great sex is real and can be better than anything you can read or fantasize about. I know a woman who would drive three hours one way just to spend one hour with a man and it took the three hour drive back home to cool her down.
As a true crime freak, I can honestly say that the book about this story, scared me more than anything I have ever read. It’s one that has stayed with me for many years! Horror at its best and worst.
I mean was the book written by the best novelist in the world? Was it the same story we are hearing here? A woman who has no other incidents in her life and does something crazy one day? Yeah it’s very crazy to murder someone like that but ok that’s it? Nothing else to her story? Besides a weird boring affair? Why no mention of her being mentally I’ll her whole life and being a weird creepy woman who was bound to snap one day? Where’s the backstory? Was it her mother they mentioned literally for a half a second? I had absolutely no time and was given no reason to care about any of these people other than just nodding my head like ok wow 41 wacks with an axe that’s crazy. But it also made no sense. Why be mad at or kill the woman she already screwed over by having an affair with her husband. I’m still puzzled and trying to understand if she was really that in love with this guy? Seemed she could care less either way. I don’t understand the obsession with this case. and Jury’s get it wrong literally ALL THE TIME so why is everyone so surprised exactly?!
Candy seemed to be craving control her whole life. The type of person who likes to have an affair with someone's spouse just because they feel they have the superior ability to make someone else's spouse bend over backwards to please them. Against all odds, the situation with Allen & Betty turned to be a 'humiliating' incident for her. She probably didn't have any intention to kill Betty but I wouldn't be surprised if she threw passive aggressive attacks towards Betty just to 'win' the game. Betty snapped and attacked her, not necessarily with an axe (no one could give a good explanation how come the lens of her sunglasses found near the place the Gores kept thir axe). Candy (who hated Betty for her success with Allen in their marriage counseling) attacked Betty back with an axe. That's the most likely scenario I could think of.
@@danielleminerva4525your comment has some inconsistent questions sorry what is your point? She just said she found this case creepy who in the whole world wouldn't find it creepy??? The woman went insane once? Her total life was insane.. Religious people are insane that's the point.
I suspect that Betty threatened to expose Candy's affair with her husband to the church. Being so self-absorbed in what people thought of her, probably motivated her rage. Besides the cause of death, which was horrific, I will never forget how she just left Betty's baby in the crib. Great analysis as always, Dr Grande!
Not guilty? Her story is ridiculous. As you described the interactions, I had a hard time not laughing, then it stops when I hear how violent & crazy some folks are. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡
That was about the dullest love affair. Certainly nothing to kill over. It sounded more like a comedy than a love affair but murdering someone is no laughing matter. Can’t believe she was found not guilty. A mental health counselor the story just got more crazy
Candy really went all Lizzie Borden on Betty, didn't she? Including the number of "whacks." Lizzie was also acquitted. "Lizzie Borden took an axe, And gave her mother forty whacks; When she saw what she had done, She gave her father forty-one." Lizzie's escapades were also immortalized in a really great song by the Chad Mitchell trio. Shut the door, lock and latch it, here comes Candy with a brand-new hatchet.
Mark S issue with that is her innocence was on the jury's belief that since she was a woman, she couldn't have been capable of doing the gruesome deeds. She could've been falsely accused, but there's no doubt that the jury was heavily biased, given that it was an all male jury as well.
Mark S makes sense from a biological viewpoint that the damage done on the corpses seems to surpass the capabilities her small stature could've done, but i've been proven wrong myself so i personally view size as being less important in stuff like this. There's other factors that could've played a more major involvement--adrenaline and sheer will/hatred can do wonders when it comes to the human body.
What a great and insightful case analysis. I just watched the miniseries about Candice 'Candy' Montgomery. The one thing I was hoping you would discuss is her eventual occupation as a mental health consular. How does one go from literally axe murdering someone in such a violent rageful manner to being a mental health consular? I would not want to take mental health advice and help from someone who has previously been an axe murderer. Perhaps you could address this on your podcast.
41 whacks with an axe is not self-defense, so I'd really like to know what the jury was thinking. It's these kinds of verdicts that worry me about the intellect and logical reasoning of some people.
@HeavenlyChainsaw we have no idea what Betty did. You take the word and story of an axe murderer, and a mother who left a baby for hours. Clearly you're not a good judge of character, good grief.
I wish I could hang out with Dr.Grande I sure hope the people in your life appreciate your dry humor Cause you crack me up I actually love channels that just tell the facts which is rare and you do that But I'm always ready and excited for the usual 2 quips you ad But this one you through in a few extra lmao " Kid in a candy store"
I agree 💯%!! There is something different and better about Dr. Grande's videos! For one thing, you can learn more in a few minute video from him about a case than by watching an hour long documentary, he pulls out just the most interesting and relevant information, and lays it out so well with Genius Analysis. But my FAVORITE part, like you, is the dry sarcastic humor, it's the BEST! I'm a total Grande Groupie I guess! 😂 Also, where on EARTH did you come up with that screen name my friend? 😂🤣 ✌️💖
Dr. Grande, I have to say your presentation is incredibly refreshing compared to a lot of other shows out there that focus on the lascivious nature of the crime details. While I am interested in forensics as a subject, they are rarely addressed respectfully as a science. Your straightforward approach is appreciated and respected, because you do not insult the victims, and you address the case with an open curiosity towards the perpetrators. You have a gift, and I thank you.
She took her frustration out on betty and realized the weight of the situation and forced herself not to bare the reality of what she did and she did not want her life to be disrupted so she forced herself to desensitize essentially turning herself into a monster. She more than likely realized that what she had done at this point including leaving a crying baby of the mother she just cheated on her husband with and murdered while she was babysitting her child, was a terrrible vile thing and it probably took a toll on her emotions and mental state. She willingly buried those emotions so she could convince herself and her little world that everything was fine and would carry on like normal.
When Candy made that pros and cons chart that she reviewed with Allan I was shocked! - this showed how their shallow and calculating schemes directly led to murder and pain for those closest to them
I read the book about this when I was about 20. I'm 60, may be wrong on the date but it's been a long time ago. Has haunted me ever since. The movie made about it was very good too. Thanks for your take on this one
Do you know the name of the movie? When I mentioned the title of the video to my bf just a few minutes ago, he responded "Did they make a movie about that?" Lol
So she killed Betty over a man she didn't even want. This is beyond sick. I would think that Candy would have a duty to retreat, if she was able, because they were in Betty's house. I would feel differently about that if the fight were taking place in Candy's house.
You’re assuming she killed Betty over Alan…? Maybe she didn’t want her husband to find out. Maybe she lost it bc Betty dared to confront her. Maybe they did start fighting, & then Candy just went into narc rage.
@@isitoveryet9525 Candy's husband knew about the affair. He found a letter Allan Gore wrote to Candy breaking off the affair. Betty was the only one in the dark.
Something a little off about MANY High School Gym teachers, but that is just on another level CRAZY! Bet that really shook your town, very disturbing!!
Soo glad to hear you talk about this crazy case! Been watching and waiting for you👍🏻❕ Don’t understand the verdict after her admittance ⁉️ Listening to you now!! Thanks for all of your wise input& knowledge!! ♥️ Your Channel ♥️‼️
Dr. G, what I appreciate about you is that you constructively criticize the inept representatives of the field in which you are an expert. Calling out a peer in any discipline is one of the most powerful ways to expose poor practices and encourage outsiders to adopt a healthy skepticism.
this happened in my home town. I graduated high school in 2016 and we had two different murders between students fighting over girls while I was in school. The whole area has been crazy for a long time I guess
And they still decided to go through with it, which seems a little strange. Affairs are usually a poor decision people make while caught up in a moment- this seems so cold and methodical, not really worth it. If you're going to be bad, at least make it worth it?? 😂
Brilliant analysis. You were brave to call out other mental health providers who contributed to this miscarriage of justice. Candy should be behind bars.
Love the way you always come up with your sarcastic analogy. I have been watching on and off for about a year and just recently began to notice. I know look forward to them.
I remember when this happened. Such a total lack of justice. The jurists in that town were jokes. And the mental health people who testified were too. What a vile woman.
And then the darley routier case. She was convicted because she had a little bday party at her sons’ gravesite. Makes zero sense. I don’t believe she killed the boys but Candy admitted she killed Betty.
Evening Dr. Grande, Thank you for an engaging commentary and excellent analysis of this tragic affair. It brought to mind the Lizzie Borden rhyme, especially the 41 whacks.
I listened to a podcast about this case and I think if anyone suffered mentally it was Betty. She had just had a baby and was really stressed out with that and with suspecting her husband having an affair. It’s like she finally snapped when Candy showed up at her house and she was able to confront her, but I guess we will never be able to confirm this.
Yeah, I agree to an extent. Most people don’t seem to think this way though, which makes me think - in a way that Candy’s story could be true. Candy would be more inclined to try and cover up her part in it. She did a terrible job obviously, but If she had called the cops right there after the Axe encounter and claimed it was self defense, no one would have bought it. People still don’t believe her to this day. The over kill of 41 swings of the axe is hard to defend, but like I could see with all the adrenaline running, and pent up rage how it could happen. Like if someone tried to murder me and I was able to get the upper hand I could see how I could loose it and go in for the overkill. It’s definitely possible and shouldn’t be written off just because of the brutality of it. Humans are capable of some dark & awful things. It doesn’t matter if you think someone is a “good” person or a “bad” person. You throw someone in a crazy situation they have the ability to act equally crazy. I can’t find it anywhere but if the show was accurate that they charged her with first degree murder, the prosecution dropped the ball. Nothing about this crime seems premeditated to me. They could have gotten her on second degree or manslaughter. Considering she admitted to the crime and anything she did to “cover it up” was super sloppy and not well thought out. We only know one side of the story though, and because of this - there will always be doubt. I honestly don’t know what really happened no one actually does. I am not ruling anything out, but I can speak to what seems logical to me. I do think it says a lot that Candy didn’t go off and continue to bludgeon more people to death. If she was just a homicidal maniac, then she probably wouldn’t have been able to suppress that for the rest of her life. Betty didn’t deserve such a brutal and tragic fate, she deserved respect and some mental health help. She was clearly suffering- no matter what actually happened that day. As for Candy she should’ve stopped once she gained control of the situation. (If we believe her story) If this is how it happened I can’t blame her for having an extreme reaction to almost being killed. I think it takes more than just “jealousy” to invoke that kind of rage in a person. This case requires a level of nuance that most people on the internet aren’t capable of. People forget the way the laws are written to convict someone of a crime you have to prove “beyond a shadow of a doubt” that they are guilty. As far as Candy being guilty of first degree murder… there’s nothing but doubts in my mind about that. 2nd degree, there’s some doubt but it makes sense, as far as manslaughter- yeah she definitely did that & it was voluntary. If people are pissed she got off completely without any charges they should be mad at the prosecution.
I think that both women suffered from mental health issues. That doesn’t justify murder but you can almost see how this was a perfect storm. Crazy people do crazy things.
I'm not generally a "commenter"... But call me inspired by the best one liner during a crime commentary I've ever heard!!... "like taking a baby from a candie" absolute classic doc, keep up that subtle humor I'm loving it!!!
This is my first time that i heard about this story. I watched the series on Hulu and had to follow up with reading about the true story. I agree with your analysis and I truly think she should have been founded guilty. What a horrendous act!
What a shocking, truly disgusting case! I so loved when you said "Both of the dissociative conceptualizations are, ridiculous!" Also loved your final thoughts, Dr. Grande! Wow! Amazing video!
I think when there's a case such as this one in which you have a verdict by a jury that makes no sense, you have to figure there are a combination of factors: Candy's lawyer must have been very effective, the prosecutor not so much, the defense expert witnesses, the facts of the case (there's got to be more to the story that was presented), and the jury's attitude/feelings toward the defendant and victim, how the judge presided over the case.
Tell it like it is, brother! I agree with you wholeheartedly, which seems to be the case each time I watch you. I've only seen a few shows and you always hit the nail on the head. I like your presentation & dry sense of humor. Thanks for sharing your views & opinions!
I know. Its unbelievable. I have seen multiple cases in court that left me saying, " uhh what?" 😳🙄. Doesn't give me unconditional faith in the justice system. Its actually scary. In my opinion. Lol Thanks Dr. Grande!
Mental illness or temporary insanity or permanent conditions whatever should not be a reason to exonerate a criminal. On the contrary, it's even more worrisome, because that means that they can do it do it again!! ANY murder is the result of insanity and mental illness.
The affair seemed like a business, not spontaneous. I also agree Candy was guilty,it defines imagation she was found not guilty after she struck her 41 times. I do believe she had no consequences for her actions. She walked free , after striking another woman too death. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis and sad topic.
That's what I thought. LOL. I don't know if it's the way Dr Grande explains it or if church affairs are just generally business-like and agreed upon with a open psalm handshake.
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what is happening when a woman named Candy swings an axe that falls on the head of a romantic rival like this.
I remember this case quite well and I remember reading about it in the newspapers; interesting and troubling case, for sure. "Not guilty" was the wrong verdict; a final verdict of "manslaughter" was far more appropriate here. As such, this was indeed a miscarriage of justice. As for mental health professionals who do not believe that dissociative personality and dissociative behavior is real, I can tell you, IT IS REAL. I was married to a woman who, unbeknownst to me prior to our marriage, had been severely abused by her first husband and she had experienced YEARS of EXCESSIVE, gross mental cruelty at his hands (I met him several times, and I had no doubts as to his character) this man was a nut case with a classic mother's complex, and he had the emotions of a pre-adolescent; illness of any kind was somehow....belittling to him. As his mistreatment of her progressed over the years and she began to weaken and exhibit the classic signs of emotional neglect and abuse, psychosomatic illnesses, and an eventual nervous breakdown, he began to stay out all night and carouse with other women, having one affair after another until she would finally muster the courage to divorce him in 1980. However, by then the damage was done and irreparable, not only to her, but to her 4 sons as well; many years prior to the divorce, a psychiatrist had told her that if she didn't get away from him and get her kids out of that environment, she would actually be contributing to the emotional damage that would undoubtedly happen to her children, and they would become just like their father. Well, she waited too long to get out, her mental health suffered horrifically, and INDEED, those boys all became younger versions of their callous, sociopathic, overtly narcissistic father. By the time we were married, I didn't know any of this, but as time wore on and she once again fell apart mentally, the damage was tremendous and quite obvious to me, and it was around this time that she would basically flip out, often for DAYS at a time, and then have absolutely no recollection of any of it. She would smash things to pieces and pretty much demolish the house; she'd call me terrible names, accuse me of doing bizarre things; I was a real estate agent at the time, and she would throw my briefcases, full of sales contracts, into random dumpsters and I'd have to replace them numerous times and draft new paperwork for my clients to sign all over again....she'd wreck my car repeatedly and not remember doing it. At first, I didn't believe her and I thought it was an act, but as I really began observing her and asking her questions, I soon realized that she truly had absolutely no memories of her wild and destructive behavior AT ALL. One afternoon, in the middle of one of these days long episodes, I don't know what made me ask her, I think it was because she kept calling me by her ex-husband's name and something told me that mentally, she was back in the late 1960's for some reason, as she was saying things that were relevant to that time period. So, I asked her what my name was, and she again called me by the ex-husband's name; I asked her what year it was, and she gave me an angry, incredulous look and replied, "It's 1968, you dumb ass!" This was, oddly enough, the year she would always revert back to while in these dissociative states, so I assume something monumental occurred to her at that time, but I would never find out what that event had been. I'm no mental health professional, but I know dissociation when I see it because I lived it for 10 years with my ex-wife. This is indeed a very real thing!
This statement is shows awful affect abuse has on the human psyche. Ive been watching alot of true crime videos on RUclips and i get annoyed with comments saying abuse is no excuse for violence. It just shows that society still doesn't understand the power of mental illness. People process trauma differently. Some people can overcome the affects of abuse without turning violent themselves and go on to live productive lives but there are some people that just can't because the abuse they suffered destroyed them.
That sounds like a VERY hard way to live, I'm sorry you had to go through that. And I'm sorry SHE had to go through what she did. Sometimes this life is cruel and hard and doesn't make a lot of sense. I hope you've been able to move on and have a calmer, more peaceful life since then! ✌️💖
@@shayb413 Well thank you for that, and yes, I've been able to move on and not allow the abuse I suffered from her to define my life OR me. We divorced in 1995, and she disappeared from everyone's radar for several years before eventually resurfacing. I received a long letter from her around that time, which I still have, and it was basically an extended apology for everything she had put me through, but really, she never had to apologize to me because I really did understand her; I never held any of that abuse against her. I knew she was deeply, deeply troubled; I just had to get out because she tried to kill me twice, the first time was with a chef's knife as I slept (if my Bassett Hound hadn't stirred and awakened me, I would be a statistic now!) and the last attempt she made, she had a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol up to my head while I had been sleeping, but due to the rustling around she was doing because her hands weren't strong enough to pull the breech all the way back for a bullet to drop into the chamber, I woke up, whereupon a struggle ensued while I wrestled the fully loaded gun from her hands. Yes, I came away from that with some VERY serious PTSD, which I got professional help for. I truly loved her, and I will always love her unconditionally, odd as this may sound. She's deceased now, she passed on about 8 years ago now, I believe....but there isn't a day that goes by that I'm not reminded of her in some pleasant way; I will forever remember that other woman I fell in love with and married so long ago now, the person she once was before all of that happened, that beautiful soul who loved children and animals. I will never forget that petite, soft-spoken, gentle lady who got herself so severely sunburned one day because a tiny puppy, the runt of a large litter, had just gotten comfortable in her lap and fell asleep as she fed him puppy formula from a dropper, and she couldn't bring herself to disturb the little guy so she could move her chair into the shade; THIS was the lady she truly was under all of that trauma, all of her prescription drug addictions, and all of her many personal acquaintances with pain. God rest her soul, always and forever.
@@jamescarrington5521 This isn't abuse, this isn't trauma, this is brain injury from psych drugs. They turn sweet gentle souls into homicidal psychotic mad people. Not her fault.
I am currently watching the show on Hulu and did not get to the part yet where she was acquitted. Jessica Biel plays a perfect Candy and Justin Timberlake plays a perfect detective. I bet they had fun working together.
I see what you did there with the video title Dr G😊 I remember reading about this case in a woman's magazine years ago, shocking then and now.Thanks for covering it. Are you planning on doing an analysis of the late country singer Naomi Judd? Have a great Saturday 🌄
Can you please analyze the case of Sylvia Likens? She was a young girl tortured to death by a woman and a group of kids over the course of months. The kids began as her friends. I am curious to know your thoughts on how something like that could happen! Love your work Doctor!Thank you ❤❤
I visited Sylvia’s grave in 2020. She’s the most visited grave in that cemetery. God rest her soul. I brought her cookies since her father used to call her Cookie. Someone left a painted rock that said “You Mattered.” She did. What a story. Poor girl. They were monsters.
OMG. That story had me in tears. Brutal and impossible to understand. Wasn't she called "The Concrete Angel"? I would appreciate Dr. G's insights on this crime also.
@@sarahalbers5555 the ‘concrete angel’ was Junko Furuta, a Japanese high school girl who in the early 80s was tortured and killed in a manner unfortunately very similar to Sylvia’s - though in this case it was a group of fellow male students who kept her hostage for months, while their parents apparently did nothing. She eventually died and was buried in a barrel filled with concrete, to make the body disappear... It is another simply terrifying story.
I've watched the Hulu series about this incident. There's also a lifetime movie about it. I forget the name of it. The verdict makes me think about what I studied in a political science class back in college that when someone is found not guilty it doesn't mean no crime was committed and the person did nothing wrong. It means there was reasonable doubt or the evidence was presented badly in court. I believe that was an issue in the oj Simpson trail. Some of the jurors have said the prosecution did a bad job with presenting the evidence.
No it's not, just inconsistent. Some of the innocent got to prison, even executed, and some of the guilty go free. But mostly the penitentiaries are full of people who need to be there.
Dr. Grande, I come for the thoughtful analysis and leave remembering that it's the humour I can't get enough of. Thank you for making me laugh out loud every day.
I have personal expertise with dissociative reaction, to a lesser degree than Candy supposedly experienced. I got into an argument with my first love, and suddenly I felt like I was hung by the collar on the top hinge of the door behind me. I watched myself beating on his shoulders--I couldn't feel myself doing it, nor could I stop myself until someone knocked on the door. At that point I jumped back into my body, threw the door open, hugged it while I sank to the floor, and refused to let go of it from fear of what I might do next. This is, I believe, the first time I've heard that term (I have memory problems due to a rainstorm brain injury, so I may have repressed knowledge of the term) though it makes perfect sense to me. This doesn't mean Candy necessarily experienced such an episode, only that I have, and partially understand situations that might trigger it. I found it quite frightening, and willingly spent a week in the secure ward of a local hospital after that happened.
After reading some of the other comments here, I agree that she should not have been acquitted. Even if she were not guilty due to mental incapacitated, she was a danger to herself and others, and clearly needed treatment and monitoring.
I am here after years amd love to see that you have got subscribers in millions now . You deserve it . I am Doc my self and i will specialize in Psychiatry .your videos are a great source ,you are awesome keep up the good work
What made me personally believe shes a sick monster, besides the obvious, is her hugging Allan and Betty's daughter while she was being told her mother was dead all while knowing she did it. There's something deeply evil and sick about that to me.
It was really just self defense
@@Therian4U I think so.
I literally said out loud “what an evil lady’ the child actor was phenomenal
@@DylanRomanov yeah she is absolutely terrible. And just got to...walk away. Its insane
@@Therian4U 41 times...??
I just watched the Hulu dramatization of the Candy Montgomery story. I was STUNNED when she was acquitted. Equally stunned that it took her husband 4 years to divorce her afterwards. That poor baby cried all day long until she was hoarse.
I completely agree with you.....
Makes me sick as well..she is a social path
"Taking baby from a Candy" might be your best one-liner to date
That really WAS Genius! Dr. Grande is just excellent!
Agree. Another great one from Dr, Grande…..
I haven’t laughed so hard in a while!
I was like "DAMN IT GRANDE, HOW DO YOU DO IT! "
I laughed so hard!
People do a lot less than Candy and get long prison sentences. Crazy that she walked free.
For real. Weed possession gets time in jail or prison, but she axes someone 41 times and gets away scott free? Insane
@@Mangzorz We have to save people from destroying themselves with drugs by locking them up in places where drugs are freely available. Why can't you see the logic in that?
Things were different in 1980. Juries gave more weight to hypnosis & mental health expert witness testimony even though they knew much less than we know now. I think they made up for their lack of knowledge with grandiosity and cockiness to impress juries but that’s just my opinion. I’ve heard of other cases from 40 years ago that had strange outcomes but this one takes the cake.
And Candy’s tight perm might’ve had some strange power over the men on her life and the jury.
That's the judicial system for ya
@@edniitacuhhh7054 of course the outcomes will be different lol Different states have different laws…there’s different prosecutors, judges, jurors etc Idk why people act like every trial is created equal, or act surprised when different cases have different outcomes
What a nightmare. Candy is a mental health worker? Now I've heard everything.
Right! I couldn’t believe that either fn 😜!!!!
Imagine getting mental health advice from her and then finding out about this case ? I'd be dumbfounded.
More people need to study the theory themselves. Doctoral level psychoanalytic theory is not as difficult as medical subjects that require biology. It's a fascinating study and if you just keep up with it you can learn a lot of it on your own.
Seriously. The ironies of life!
That’s almost as disgusting as her getting off Scott free .
I am so disgusted with that jury. At the very least Candy could have run to her car. And to leave that little helpless baby. Candy is a dreadful person.
Maggie, that poor baby girl was probably dehydrated, dirty, and exhausted because for hours no one tended to her needs.
It really depends on what the evidence was and how it was presented to the jury. There have been so many cases of jury trials that would have been decided differently had the jury been shown ALL the evidence.
@@drbqqq1433 That definitely doesn’t make them (the jury) immune to error. Plenty of innocent people have been exonerated after initially being found guilty and a lot of guilty individuals have walked free. Sometimes it’s a matter of incompetent prosecutors/defense attorneys, other times it may be due to loopholes in a broken system, and there are times where I’m sure some of the fault lies within the jury which is made up of imperfect people capable of making mistakes. This should come as no surprise considering how flawed the US criminal justice system is. Sex offenders often receive less time than non-violent offenders struggling with addiction. The jury finding her innocent doesn’t mean anything in my opinion. I don’t personally believe that beating her over 40 times with an axe was self-defense and that seems to be the general consensus. Poor Betty didn’t even die til the end.
@@drbqqq1433 Lol. Exactly!! 👍
@@MAT-xh3cl What a double standard ~ lol. So it’s okay for Depp to lose his mind, because the top of his finger was sliced off? He became deranged painting the walls in the dripping blood and when that ran out, he used red paint.
But this woman couldn’t lose it after Betty chopped off part of her toe with the ax?
Hmmm? 🤔
I've read the book and researched this case thoroughly. I believe candice was a sick and selfish woman. All she cared about was what the trial did to her image and how it was an inconvenience to her...nevermind that she brutally murdered a woman. She even let her husband believe that her multiple affairs were HIS fault. I believe she got away with murder.
@Millicient Aspinet that's what it sounded like. She had this whole persona she maintained and it was fraudulent. She wanted what she wanted, and she didnt care how it may hurt other people. Even after the trial she genuinely thought things could go back to normal and that "everyone was ready to move on". It was truly insane how out of touch she was with the fact that she slaughtered a woman and called it self defense because Betty said "shh".
What's messed up is she got away with it and has been able to change her name and establish a new life for herself. Apparently she is a mental health counselor? Just awful
@@laur131306 Agreed, excellent post. The only thing I would add is allegedly Betty said "shh". There should be extreme skepticism about any self serving tale Candy spun.
To kill someone,(especially in that manner), proves that the Candy killer never had an image to begin with, at least not a good 1. She just had everyone fooled.
Think I read the same one…ugh…
I remember reading a book about this case a while ago. Betty was extremely insecure, had issues with her weight and quiet. Candy was the opposite, well liked in church and social activities, but bored, wanting some excitement. I really think Candy was insane, hiding in plain sight. In the book right after she killed Betty she went home, showered, bandaged her toe then went to a church function. When she heard they found a bloody footprint, she took hedge trimmers and cut up the flips she wore into a million pieces.
Do you know which book you read?
Evidence of Love: True Story of Passion & Death in the Suburbs. Really goes in depth about this crime.
@@BrowneyedDiva very interesting yeah she’s crazy. I could not imagine as someone who speaks to a mental health therapist, it blows my mind that she became a mental health counselor. I feel safe with a Dr who has several degrees on his wall. It doesn’t cross my mind oh he got off for murder!
Clearly not too disassociated to forget about her shoes. What a bad jury, not even a manslaughter verdict.
@@_curiouscat_2686 Yep! She lied and covered up her crrime. She put on her "church lady"mask. She was not so "disassociated" that she did not think to do that. Image was everything to Candy. She wanted to maintain to standard in the community. And in her loveless,sexless boring marriage because that was to her advantage.
Just an appalling decision by that jury, 41 whacks with an axe is NOT self defense!!!
Betty was completely innocent. That was 1st degree murder.... I just don't get the attraction.... she's very unfortunate looking so I'm not sure how she worked people.....
Lizzie Borden definitely wasn't doing self-defense.
I was shocked she got off. the poor family
@@AnnieBoBannie421 It's called personality. Have you ever heard of it? People have affairs with people who make them FEEL a certain way.
Agreed! What a bunch of worthless people on that jury
‘My mental health counsellor is literally an ax murderer.’ Perfect!
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There had to have been some serious rage to ax someone so many times. An ax is heavy. Repetitively lifting up and going back down would become very exhausting! The jury got this one very wrong!
@@Countsploogula any woman hacking someone 41 times with an axe will be tired unless she normally worked out aerobically regularly
in fact try throwing 41 punches ---if you don't workout regularly you will be breathing hard
wielding an ax is more difficult than throwing punches
@@futuretimetraveller8677 even a man would have difficulty. An ax is awkward with that long handle.
Candy's jury was made of bubble gum
That definitely sounds like pure rage 😳😱
@Future Time Traveller IKR?! I know this is an old post, but dang, 41x? There's a reason that people always swoon over hyper-masculine guys chopping wood in ads and movies. They're always cut.
Having worked in the criminal justice system for a number of years before retiring one thing I learned us to never be surprised at what a jury might do.
What is wrong with people? TWELVE people acquitted her? How is it possible?
@@TheSouthIsHot juries are often not given all the information in a case. Totally depends on the skill of the lawyers.
@@TheSouthIsHot I mean think about it, with decisions like OJ being acquitted and that cop in the Floyd trial being found guilty, it all comes down to the lawyers, the social feelings of the times, and what evidence the judge permits. It’s rarely just in the justice system. But it’s the best humankind has created thus far. Sadly.
@@lostandfound5145 It honestly boggles my mind. And you're right: "It's the best humankind has created thus far." Thank you for answering!😍
@Billy Lain I've seen this outcome myself. There have been many trials since Candy's where the defendant was acquitted.
“Unable to stop thinking about her odorous collision with Allan…”😂
This is the most planned and mechanical relationship I haver ever seen, only to render an unfulfilling experience…🤣😂
I know this is an exceedingly tragic case, but I have to admit that the humor was on point. I don’t know which one I like more, the humor or the analysis. 🙌🏼
Thank you as always Dr. Grande, I hope you have a restful weekend ahead.❤️
70’s smell, hits different😂
@@johnlopez9014 Maybe it smelled like teen spirit. Lol
Great comment Rejane! Agree 💯%!
@@shayb413 nevermind
I am utterly disgusted by this case. It's sickening that the show "Love & Death" tried to paint her as the victim!?? Candy is a deranged psychopath.
I hate that TV series
True
I agree
Agreed. Just watched that series. They victimized a monster
I still didn’t get that impression. I thought they showed her obsession/dysregulation better than the Hulu version. I liked both adaptations.
Imagine going to a mental health counselor in Georgia for marriage counseling, then discovering your counselor had committed adultery, had killed her ex-lover's wife by beating her 41 times with an axe handle, and had left a then-motherless infant unattended for hours. Finding that out would pretty much destroy any confidence I had in any mental health counselor.
I'd be suing the agency! You come in to get treatment for anxiety and then find out you've been advised by an axe murderer😱. Oh HELL NAW
Axe handle? .she didn't hit Betty with the handle. She hacked her up with the blade
@@KrystyneY you're correct. I mis-listened.
I am a counsellor specialising for the last 6 years in psychosocial assessments, prior to that specialising in forensics, men's anger/violence, youth, relationships, terminal illness, and psychiatric conditions. Some of the worst psychopaths I have met are among my own colleagues. The psychology/counselling/psychotherapy industry is infested with psychopaths masquerading as society's good and caring people. The worst hide among those society trusts. I expect one day in the future the lid will get blown off the psychology/counselling industry and the public will find out how morally corrupt it is.
Amazing example of a malfunctioning justice system and absurd mental health counceling services. Your analysis of the case is brilliant. Candy might kill again, given her brutality. She is only
concerned by her own needs.
"Taking baby from a Candy" -I am still laughing at that one. This episode was very amusing, as well as shocking!
He's very clever. And I love the dark humor.
I know I love his dad jokes. So endearing and funny!
"Alan couldn't believe that another woman would find him sexually attractive." Yes.
Hahaha 😂
Probably a good reason for that.
He look ugly
Best comment on this post lol
Allan was torturing Candy he knew what he was doing
RIP Betty.
Candy is insane. Who fights over a man who isn't even any damn good. Lol.
Seriously though, this is the unsexiest agreed sexual encounter that I have ever heard. Cheaters are garbage people anyway. Poor kids are without their mom.
I believe her whole issue was losing. She didnt want Allan according to her...but she couldnt stand to lose.
@@laur131306 right, she lost and she took it out on Betty. Candy’s marriage sucked and the marriage retreat didn’t work like it did for Betty, and Betty was everything she really was not. A good wife. And Candy hated her for it.
All I kept thinking was man, the 70s were rough. Candy was the most middle aged looking 29 year old ever.
@@jessgal76 You mean
The 80s...The crime happened in 1980.
@@jessgal76 i literally had to rewind when he said 29... I was like, you just said 39 right?
Wow! What a lucky break for Candy that the jury found her not guilty. That is completely wrong and so sad for that little baby to grow up without her mother. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
@Leyla Moody and Betty also had another child a 5year old girl
"His brain was like a kid in a 'Candy' store" -- Love, it, thank you Dr!
Our Justice System is Extremely Broken
Seems to be locking people up just fine.
Yes it is
A perfect system does not exist
@@1428elm what about the solar system?
nicholasdurso1227 but the perfect storm does.
This is the second topic that I have suggested in the comments section that you have done a video on. I love that you produce so much content and that you are always taking suggestions. You have the best channel 😊
“taking baby from a candy” omg my 2 brain cells could never have come up with something that genius…. ily dr. grande lmao
I laughed so hard when he said that.
Wasn't that THE BEST!! Agree 💯!
Can you imagine her being your mental health counselor and then finding out what she did?!🤯 unbelievable she walked free. What an idiotic jury!
Every ex addict wants to be a counsellor. Every person struggling with mental health, hopes they will be counsellors one day when they get better.
Do you really feel that ppl who have suffered something should never counsel in that area?
What next? Someone who lost children becoming a grief counsellor? Absurd
@@amandamccormick5009 Absurd is definitely the word I’d use to explain your logic. Of course it makes sense that someone with experience in a certain area in life would be able to counsel others. This lady hacked someone up with a Fucking AX. She’s batshit. How you don’t see that should worry you.
This is just a tragedy slowly unfolding. People meet other people while married and eventually get divorced and then marry. It happens. But affairs are just like walking on hot coals and so many things can and will go wrong. This was just a total mess.
I love the very thin, straight, and symmetrical strip of desk visible at the bottom of the video frame! Attention to detail is one of Dr. Grande's calling cards!
I think you're seeing things
Brilliant analysis as always, Dr Grande! You really nailed it. She was looking for the fantasy from romance novels and that simply just does not exist. It was murder and overkill at that. Thank you for your commentary on this absurd case.
Hold on there. Great sex is real and can be better than anything you can read or fantasize about. I know a woman who would drive three hours one way just to spend one hour with a man and it took the three hour drive back home to cool her down.
As a true crime freak, I can honestly say that the book about this story, scared me more than anything I have ever read. It’s one that has stayed with me for many years! Horror at its best and worst.
May I ask what scared you about it so much?
I mean was the book written by the best novelist in the world? Was it the same story we are hearing here? A woman who has no other incidents in her life and does something crazy one day? Yeah it’s very crazy to murder someone like that but ok that’s it? Nothing else to her story? Besides a weird boring affair? Why no mention of her being mentally I’ll her whole life and being a weird creepy woman who was bound to snap one day? Where’s the backstory? Was it her mother they mentioned literally for a half a second? I had absolutely no time and was given no reason to care about any of these people other than just nodding my head like ok wow 41 wacks with an axe that’s crazy. But it also made no sense. Why be mad at or kill the woman she already screwed over by having an affair with her husband. I’m still puzzled and trying to understand if she was really that in love with this guy? Seemed she could care less either way. I don’t understand the obsession with this case. and Jury’s get it wrong literally ALL THE TIME so why is everyone so surprised exactly?!
Candy seemed to be craving control her whole life. The type of person who likes to have an affair with someone's spouse just because they feel they have the superior ability to make someone else's spouse bend over backwards to please them. Against all odds, the situation with Allen & Betty turned to be a 'humiliating' incident for her. She probably didn't have any intention to kill Betty but I wouldn't be surprised if she threw passive aggressive attacks towards Betty just to 'win' the game. Betty snapped and attacked her, not necessarily with an axe (no one could give a good explanation how come the lens of her sunglasses found near the place the Gores kept thir axe). Candy (who hated Betty for her success with Allen in their marriage counseling) attacked Betty back with an axe. That's the most likely scenario I could think of.
@@danielleminerva4525your comment has some inconsistent questions sorry what is your point? She just said she found this case creepy who in the whole world wouldn't find it creepy??? The woman went insane once? Her total life was insane.. Religious people are insane that's the point.
Same
I suspect that Betty threatened to expose Candy's affair with her husband to the church. Being so self-absorbed in what people thought of her, probably motivated her rage. Besides the cause of death, which was horrific, I will never forget how she just left Betty's baby in the crib. Great analysis as always, Dr Grande!
I totally agree….
Ooohhh good one this sounds plausible
Not guilty? Her story is ridiculous. As you described the interactions, I had a hard time not laughing, then it stops when I hear how violent & crazy some folks are. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡
Hello, it's 1am Noah, seems to think sleep is over rated 😂😂
@@cottontails9003 Oh no. Hello dears...Noah go to dreamland love!!😉🤗😑💕💛💜👋
Bonding time! Much love sent your way!😍
Hi Zena!! Great comment here, couldn't agree more! Hope you're doing great love! 🥰
@@shayb413 Hi Shay😊Thank you so much. I'm well thx. Hope everything ok with you 💛🌻
I love these case analyses by Dr. Grande. They make me thankful that my life is boring.
"Taking baby from a candy". You're killing it Dr Grande, in a manner of speaking.
That was about the dullest love affair. Certainly nothing to kill over. It sounded more like a comedy than a love affair but murdering someone is no laughing matter. Can’t believe she was found not guilty. A mental health counselor the story just got more crazy
Ella se ve psicópata
28 sure looked old in the 70s.
Depends on the woman.
Woman: kills other woman because she got triggered, gets off on murder charge
Same woman: let me go be a mental health counselor
She's a MARRIAGE COUNSELOR!
@@elizabethcompton738 how 😖😖
@@elizabethcompton738 We have an entire Psychology dept. like that in our main University.
Candy really went all Lizzie Borden on Betty, didn't she? Including the number of "whacks." Lizzie was also acquitted. "Lizzie Borden took an axe, And gave her mother forty whacks; When she saw what she had done, She gave her father forty-one." Lizzie's escapades were also immortalized in a really great song by the Chad Mitchell trio. Shut the door, lock and latch it, here comes Candy with a brand-new hatchet.
Lizzie Borden was innocent though
Mark S issue with that is her innocence was on the jury's belief that since she was a woman, she couldn't have been capable of doing the gruesome deeds. She could've been falsely accused, but there's no doubt that the jury was heavily biased, given that it was an all male jury as well.
Great comment here!! Very smart! 👍
@@mookiess She was a small woman contrary to popular belief of her being big, a woman her size can't open a man's skull with an axe like that.
Mark S makes sense from a biological viewpoint that the damage done on the corpses seems to surpass the capabilities her small stature could've done, but i've been proven wrong myself so i personally view size as being less important in stuff like this. There's other factors that could've played a more major involvement--adrenaline and sheer will/hatred can do wonders when it comes to the human body.
What a great and insightful case analysis. I just watched the miniseries about Candice 'Candy' Montgomery. The one thing I was hoping you would discuss is her eventual occupation as a mental health consular. How does one go from literally axe murdering someone in such a violent rageful manner to being a mental health consular? I would not want to take mental health advice and help from someone who has previously been an axe murderer. Perhaps you could address this on your podcast.
Yes, that fact shocked me!
Yesss!!! So bizarre!
Couldn't have axed for a crazier woman to compete against.
Hahaha! 🤣 Good one! 🪓
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I totally get her odorous collision.
If someone doesn't smell right it just doesn't work.
Haha this is very true! Maybe it's something about the Pheromones! Lol
41 whacks with an axe is not self-defense, so I'd really like to know what the jury was thinking. It's these kinds of verdicts that worry me about the intellect and logical reasoning of some people.
Rage and anger not self defense
It is self defense. She lost control because of trauma event with her mom. She had a right to be pissed because Betty was attacking her .
@HeavenlyChainsaw we have no idea what Betty did. You take the word and story of an axe murderer, and a mother who left a baby for hours. Clearly you're not a good judge of character, good grief.
@@wayasaunooke3424facts
@@TheSpiceMothwhy do you believe Betty was attacking her I’m just curious how you know this piece of info….like who told you that?
I wish I could hang out with Dr.Grande
I sure hope the people in your life appreciate your dry humor
Cause you crack me up
I actually love channels that just tell the facts which is rare and you do that
But I'm always ready and excited for the usual 2 quips you ad
But this one you through in a few extra lmao
" Kid in a candy store"
Your right buddy, he's great 👍.
Taking Baby from a Candy 😄
@@TheFakeyCakeMaker I know that one was even better but I left my comment before I got to that joke lmao
I agree 💯%!! There is something different and better about Dr. Grande's videos! For one thing, you can learn more in a few minute video from him about a case than by watching an hour long documentary, he pulls out just the most interesting and relevant information, and lays it out so well with Genius Analysis. But my FAVORITE part, like you, is the dry sarcastic humor, it's the BEST! I'm a total Grande Groupie I guess! 😂 Also, where on EARTH did you come up with that screen name my friend? 😂🤣 ✌️💖
That was priceless!
Dr. Grande, I have to say your presentation is incredibly refreshing compared to a lot of other shows out there that focus on the lascivious nature of the crime details. While I am interested in forensics as a subject, they are rarely addressed respectfully as a science. Your straightforward approach is appreciated and respected, because you do not insult the victims, and you address the case with an open curiosity towards the perpetrators. You have a gift, and I thank you.
I’m shocked that she got away with this. The fact that she didn’t even get manslaughter, or something, is astonishing
Only in Texas ....
She took her frustration out on betty and realized the weight of the situation and forced herself not to bare the reality of what she did and she did not want her life to be disrupted so she forced herself to desensitize essentially turning herself into a monster. She more than likely realized that what she had done at this point including leaving a crying baby of the mother she just cheated on her husband with and murdered while she was babysitting her child, was a terrrible vile thing and it probably took a toll on her emotions and mental state. She willingly buried those emotions so she could convince herself and her little world that everything was fine and would carry on like normal.
When Candy made that pros and cons chart that she reviewed with Allan I was shocked! - this showed how their shallow and calculating schemes directly led to murder and pain for those closest to them
I read the book about this when I was about 20. I'm 60, may be wrong on the date but it's been a long time ago. Has haunted me ever since. The movie made about it was very good too. Thanks for your take on this one
Do you know the name of the movie? When I mentioned the title of the video to my bf just a few minutes ago, he responded "Did they make a movie about that?" Lol
@@Throatzillaaa murder in a small town? I think
@@Throatzillaaa yes, I wanna see it now.
So she killed Betty over a man she didn't even want. This is beyond sick. I would think that Candy would have a duty to retreat, if she was able, because they were in Betty's house. I would feel differently about that if the fight were taking place in Candy's house.
You’re assuming she killed Betty over Alan…? Maybe she didn’t want her husband to find out. Maybe she lost it bc Betty dared to confront her. Maybe they did start fighting, & then Candy just went into narc rage.
@@isitoveryet9525 Candy's husband knew about the affair. He found a letter Allan Gore wrote to Candy breaking off the affair. Betty was the only one in the dark.
ego...
My High School gym teacher killed his wife this way. Axed her to death in the front yard and their young son witnessed it. He is serving life for it.
Something a little off about MANY High School Gym teachers, but that is just on another level CRAZY! Bet that really shook your town, very disturbing!!
How tramatic 😭
Soo glad to hear you talk about this crazy case! Been watching and waiting for you👍🏻❕ Don’t understand the verdict after her admittance ⁉️ Listening to you now!! Thanks for all of your wise input& knowledge!! ♥️ Your Channel ♥️‼️
Dr. G, what I appreciate about you is that you constructively criticize the inept representatives of the field in which you are an expert. Calling out a peer in any discipline is one of the most powerful ways to expose poor practices and encourage outsiders to adopt a healthy skepticism.
Lumberjack competition…Dr. Grande, your humorous analysis never disappoints! Rest in peace, Betty.
this happened in my home town. I graduated high school in 2016 and we had two different murders between students fighting over girls while I was in school. The whole area has been crazy for a long time I guess
Don't drink the water.
The look on your face when you said she became a mental health counselor was smug gold lol.
“Taking baby from a candy” I hear your sneaky puns Mr! 😂😂😂
"Taking baby from a Candy." Best Dr. Grande joke ever. I half expected him to laugh at that one himself! 🤣
Don't you just love spontaneity?
This couple had to think hard on the pros and cons of an affair?
Selfish and stupid imo!
If she had known the sex was going to be bad, do you think that would have influenced the decision?
And they still decided to go through with it, which seems a little strange. Affairs are usually a poor decision people make while caught up in a moment- this seems so cold and methodical, not really worth it. If you're going to be bad, at least make it worth it?? 😂
Just watched the whole mini series in one sitting last night. Great timing as usual! 🎉 Thanks Dr. G! 😊
"baby from a Candy" Admit it doc, that line is the whole reason you did this video.:)
Brilliant analysis. You were brave to call out other mental health providers who contributed to this miscarriage of justice. Candy should be behind bars.
I agree 100%. I was shocked she was found not guilty. I haven't asked in over a year, but please do Christopher Porco case.
Great choice
This will give my age away, but I remember this. It was a huge story in Dallas, TX, and happened around the time the movie "The Shining" came out.
The humor in storytelling with a dead pan face is what makes this channel. 😂👍🏻
Love the way you always come up with your sarcastic analogy. I have been watching on and off for about a year and just recently began to notice. I know look forward to them.
I remember when this happened. Such a total lack of justice. The jurists in that town were jokes. And the mental health people who testified were too. What a vile woman.
And then the darley routier case. She was convicted because she had a little bday party at her sons’ gravesite. Makes zero sense. I don’t believe she killed the boys but Candy admitted she killed Betty.
Love your videos! Keep them coming. Have you examined the Vallow Daybell trial results.? There’s more to come.!
Evening Dr. Grande, Thank you for an engaging commentary and excellent analysis of this tragic affair. It brought to mind the Lizzie Borden rhyme, especially the 41 whacks.
“Odorous collision” LOL! 🤣🤣🤣 Funniest phrase I’ve heard all week
Good morning 🌞 love your videos.. have a great afternoon
Dude I just can’t stop watching grandes videos lmao. It’s a daily routine for me to turn this dry humor genius on and laugh at his hilarious takes
I listened to a podcast about this case and I think if anyone suffered mentally it was Betty. She had just had a baby and was really stressed out with that and with suspecting her husband having an affair. It’s like she finally snapped when Candy showed up at her house and she was able to confront her, but I guess we will never be able to confirm this.
Yeah, I agree to an extent. Most people don’t seem to think this way though, which makes me think - in a way that Candy’s story could be true. Candy would be more inclined to try and cover up her part in it. She did a terrible job obviously, but If she had called the cops right there after the Axe encounter and claimed it was self defense, no one would have bought it. People still don’t believe her to this day.
The over kill of 41 swings of the axe is hard to defend, but like I could see with all the adrenaline running, and pent up rage how it could happen. Like if someone tried to murder me and I was able to get the upper hand I could see how I could loose it and go in for the overkill. It’s definitely possible and shouldn’t be written off just because of the brutality of it.
Humans are capable of some dark & awful things. It doesn’t matter if you think someone is a “good” person or a “bad” person. You throw someone in a crazy situation they have the ability to act equally crazy.
I can’t find it anywhere but if the show was accurate that they charged her with first degree murder, the prosecution dropped the ball. Nothing about this crime seems premeditated to me. They could have gotten her on second degree or manslaughter. Considering she admitted to the crime and anything she did to “cover it up” was super sloppy and not well thought out.
We only know one side of the story though, and because of this - there will always be doubt. I honestly don’t know what really happened no one actually does. I am not ruling anything out, but I can speak to what seems logical to me.
I do think it says a lot that Candy didn’t go off and continue to bludgeon more people to death. If she was just a homicidal maniac, then she probably wouldn’t have been able to suppress that for the rest of her life.
Betty didn’t deserve such a brutal and tragic fate, she deserved respect and some mental health help. She was clearly suffering- no matter what actually happened that day. As for Candy she should’ve stopped once she gained control of the situation. (If we believe her story) If this is how it happened I can’t blame her for having an extreme reaction to almost being killed. I think it takes more than just “jealousy” to invoke that kind of rage in a person.
This case requires a level of nuance that most people on the internet aren’t capable of. People forget the way the laws are written to convict someone of a crime you have to prove “beyond a shadow of a doubt” that they are guilty.
As far as Candy being guilty of first degree murder… there’s nothing but doubts in my mind about that. 2nd degree, there’s some doubt but it makes sense, as far as manslaughter- yeah she definitely did that & it was voluntary.
If people are pissed she got off completely without any charges they should be mad at the prosecution.
@@kiyakia Sure, Jan.
@Krysta Briley what podcast did you listen to?
I think that both women suffered from mental health issues. That doesn’t justify murder but you can almost see how this was a perfect storm. Crazy people do crazy things.
I'm not generally a "commenter"... But call me inspired by the best one liner during a crime commentary I've ever heard!!... "like taking a baby from a candie" absolute classic doc, keep up that subtle humor I'm loving it!!!
This is my first time that i heard about this story. I watched the series on Hulu and had to follow up with reading about the true story. I agree with your analysis and I truly think she should have been founded guilty. What a horrendous act!
What a shocking, truly disgusting case!
I so loved when you said "Both of the dissociative conceptualizations are, ridiculous!"
Also loved your final thoughts, Dr. Grande! Wow! Amazing video!
I think when there's a case such as this one in which you have a verdict by a jury that makes no sense, you have to figure there are a combination of factors: Candy's lawyer must have been very effective, the prosecutor not so much, the defense expert witnesses, the facts of the case (there's got to be more to the story that was presented), and the jury's attitude/feelings toward the defendant and victim, how the judge presided over the case.
Tell it like it is, brother! I agree with you wholeheartedly, which seems to be the case each time I watch you. I've only seen a few shows and you always hit the nail on the head. I like your presentation & dry sense of humor. Thanks for sharing your views & opinions!
I know. Its unbelievable. I have seen multiple cases in court that left me saying, " uhh what?" 😳🙄. Doesn't give me unconditional faith in the justice system. Its actually scary. In my opinion. Lol
Thanks Dr. Grande!
Mental illness or temporary insanity or permanent conditions whatever should not be a reason to exonerate a criminal. On the contrary, it's even more worrisome, because that means that they can do it do it again!!
ANY murder is the result of insanity and mental illness.
Whoa! Terrifying stuff, Dr Grande!
The affair seemed like a business, not spontaneous. I also agree Candy was guilty,it defines imagation she was found not guilty after she struck her 41 times. I do believe she had no consequences for her actions. She walked free , after striking another woman too death. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis and sad topic.
That's what I thought. LOL. I don't know if it's the way Dr Grande explains it or if church affairs are just generally business-like and agreed upon with a open psalm handshake.
@@robbieburns3564 lol it appears that way.
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what is happening when a woman named Candy swings an axe that falls on the head of a romantic rival like this.
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@@millsykooksy4863 hey thanks for the emote!
@@MichieKy thanks for the emotes!
"His batteries were running low..." 🤣 Thank you, Dr. Grande for the giggle & may you have a great weekend! 🤗🌵🤗
Didn’t understand the verdict in this case ThankYou Dr Grande for explaining this very sad case of injustice
It’s always nice to see you.
No matter what time❣️
I remember this case quite well and I remember reading about it in the newspapers; interesting and troubling case, for sure. "Not guilty" was the wrong verdict; a final verdict of "manslaughter" was far more appropriate here. As such, this was indeed a miscarriage of justice.
As for mental health professionals who do not believe that dissociative personality and dissociative behavior is real, I can tell you, IT IS REAL. I was married to a woman who, unbeknownst to me prior to our marriage, had been severely abused by her first husband and she had experienced YEARS of EXCESSIVE, gross mental cruelty at his hands (I met him several times, and I had no doubts as to his character) this man was a nut case with a classic mother's complex, and he had the emotions of a pre-adolescent; illness of any kind was somehow....belittling to him. As his mistreatment of her progressed over the years and she began to weaken and exhibit the classic signs of emotional neglect and abuse, psychosomatic illnesses, and an eventual nervous breakdown, he began to stay out all night and carouse with other women, having one affair after another until she would finally muster the courage to divorce him in 1980. However, by then the damage was done and irreparable, not only to her, but to her 4 sons as well; many years prior to the divorce, a psychiatrist had told her that if she didn't get away from him and get her kids out of that environment, she would actually be contributing to the emotional damage that would undoubtedly happen to her children, and they would become just like their father. Well, she waited too long to get out, her mental health suffered horrifically, and INDEED, those boys all became younger versions of their callous, sociopathic, overtly narcissistic father.
By the time we were married, I didn't know any of this, but as time wore on and she once again fell apart mentally, the damage was tremendous and quite obvious to me, and it was around this time that she would basically flip out, often for DAYS at a time, and then have absolutely no recollection of any of it. She would smash things to pieces and pretty much demolish the house; she'd call me terrible names, accuse me of doing bizarre things; I was a real estate agent at the time, and she would throw my briefcases, full of sales contracts, into random dumpsters and I'd have to replace them numerous times and draft new paperwork for my clients to sign all over again....she'd wreck my car repeatedly and not remember doing it. At first, I didn't believe her and I thought it was an act, but as I really began observing her and asking her questions, I soon realized that she truly had absolutely no memories of her wild and destructive behavior AT ALL. One afternoon, in the middle of one of these days long episodes, I don't know what made me ask her, I think it was because she kept calling me by her ex-husband's name and something told me that mentally, she was back in the late 1960's for some reason, as she was saying things that were relevant to that time period. So, I asked her what my name was, and she again called me by the ex-husband's name; I asked her what year it was, and she gave me an angry, incredulous look and replied, "It's 1968, you dumb ass!" This was, oddly enough, the year she would always revert back to while in these dissociative states, so I assume something monumental occurred to her at that time, but I would never find out what that event had been. I'm no mental health professional, but I know dissociation when I see it because I lived it for 10 years with my ex-wife. This is indeed a very real thing!
This statement is shows awful affect abuse has on the human psyche. Ive been watching alot of true crime videos on RUclips and i get annoyed with comments saying abuse is no excuse for violence. It just shows that society still doesn't understand the power of mental illness. People process trauma differently. Some people can overcome the affects of abuse without turning violent themselves and go on to live productive lives but there are some people that just can't because the abuse they suffered destroyed them.
That sounds like a VERY hard way to live, I'm sorry you had to go through that. And I'm sorry SHE had to go through what she did. Sometimes this life is cruel and hard and doesn't make a lot of sense. I hope you've been able to move on and have a calmer, more peaceful life since then! ✌️💖
@@shayb413 Well thank you for that, and yes, I've been able to move on and not allow the abuse I suffered from her to define my life OR me.
We divorced in 1995, and she disappeared from everyone's radar for several years before eventually resurfacing. I received a long letter from her around that time, which I still have, and it was basically an extended apology for everything she had put me through, but really, she never had to apologize to me because I really did understand her; I never held any of that abuse against her. I knew she was deeply, deeply troubled; I just had to get out because she tried to kill me twice, the first time was with a chef's knife as I slept (if my Bassett Hound hadn't stirred and awakened me, I would be a statistic now!) and the last attempt she made, she had a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol up to my head while I had been sleeping, but due to the rustling around she was doing because her hands weren't strong enough to pull the breech all the way back for a bullet to drop into the chamber, I woke up, whereupon a struggle ensued while I wrestled the fully loaded gun from her hands. Yes, I came away from that with some VERY serious PTSD, which I got professional help for. I truly loved her, and I will always love her unconditionally, odd as this may sound.
She's deceased now, she passed on about 8 years ago now, I believe....but there isn't a day that goes by that I'm not reminded of her in some pleasant way; I will forever remember that other woman I fell in love with and married so long ago now, the person she once was before all of that happened, that beautiful soul who loved children and animals. I will never forget that petite, soft-spoken, gentle lady who got herself so severely sunburned one day because a tiny puppy, the runt of a large litter, had just gotten comfortable in her lap and fell asleep as she fed him puppy formula from a dropper, and she couldn't bring herself to disturb the little guy so she could move her chair into the shade; THIS was the lady she truly was under all of that trauma, all of her prescription drug addictions, and all of her many personal acquaintances with pain.
God rest her soul, always and forever.
@@jamescarrington5521 This isn't abuse, this isn't trauma, this is brain injury from psych drugs. They turn sweet gentle souls into homicidal psychotic mad people. Not her fault.
Wow! This is a very sad case and especially for the children involved! Thank you.
Her behavior after the murder is what’s very troubling to me.
have u seen the clip of candy with a tv crew...her stare absolutely freaked me out to my core....scary lady
That speaks volumes.
Awesome job Dr. Gtande!!! Can you please analyze the case of Beatrice Bijouz??? Thanks.
"Taking baby from a Candy". I'm not sure if I should boo or congratulate you for the quip. Maybe both? 🤣
Boo him while you're laughing.
I am currently watching the show on Hulu and did not get to the part yet where she was acquitted. Jessica Biel plays a perfect Candy and Justin Timberlake plays a perfect detective. I bet they had fun working together.
Jessica is definitely an underrated actress. She was fabulous.
I see what you did there with the video title Dr G😊 I remember reading about this case in a woman's magazine years ago, shocking then and now.Thanks for covering it. Are you planning on doing an analysis of the late country singer Naomi Judd? Have a great Saturday 🌄
The Good Doctor's dry humor is unbeatable. I just can't compete.
Can you please analyze the case of Sylvia Likens? She was a young girl tortured to death by a woman and a group of kids over the course of months. The kids began as her friends. I am curious to know your thoughts on how something like that could happen! Love your work Doctor!Thank you ❤❤
I visited Sylvia’s grave in 2020. She’s the most visited grave in that cemetery. God rest her soul. I brought her cookies since her father used to call her Cookie. Someone left a painted rock that said “You Mattered.” She did. What a story. Poor girl. They were monsters.
OMG. That story had me in tears. Brutal and impossible to understand. Wasn't she called "The Concrete Angel"? I would appreciate Dr. G's insights on this crime also.
@@lilas1959 Great suggestion. As someone bullied throughout my school years, it put things in perspective for me... RIP Lovely girl Sylvia ❤️🙏💞
@@sarahalbers5555 the ‘concrete angel’ was Junko Furuta, a Japanese high school girl who in the early 80s was tortured and killed in a manner unfortunately very similar to Sylvia’s - though in this case it was a group of fellow male students who kept her hostage for months, while their parents apparently did nothing. She eventually died and was buried in a barrel filled with concrete, to make the body disappear... It is another simply terrifying story.
I've watched the Hulu series about this incident. There's also a lifetime movie about it. I forget the name of it.
The verdict makes me think about what I studied in a political science class back in college that when someone is found not guilty it doesn't mean no crime was committed and the person did nothing wrong. It means there was reasonable doubt or the evidence was presented badly in court.
I believe that was an issue in the oj Simpson trail. Some of the jurors have said the prosecution did a bad job with presenting the evidence.
“Murder in a small town” starring Barbara Hershey.
@@Scoutmhen oh ok. Thanks
Oops, it’s called “Killing in a small town”.
What?? Our justice system is broken.
No it's not, just inconsistent. Some of the innocent got to prison, even executed, and some of the guilty go free. But mostly the penitentiaries are full of people who need to be there.
Yeah, i could see a logic in it if she hit her once or twice with the axe, but hitting her 40 times, come on.
Dr. Grande, I come for the thoughtful analysis and leave remembering that it's the humour I can't get enough of. Thank you for making me laugh out loud every day.
This series on Hulu was so fascinating. Jessica Biel did an amazing performance
the Ax scene blew me away...it was so friking crazy...so well done
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Agree!! The whole series was fascinating
The baby from a Candy is a top gag 🤣Nice one Doc
I have personal expertise with dissociative reaction, to a lesser degree than Candy supposedly experienced. I got into an argument with my first love, and suddenly I felt like I was hung by the collar on the top hinge of the door behind me. I watched myself beating on his shoulders--I couldn't feel myself doing it, nor could I stop myself until someone knocked on the door. At that point I jumped back into my body, threw the door open, hugged it while I sank to the floor, and refused to let go of it from fear of what I might do next. This is, I believe, the first time I've heard that term (I have memory problems due to a rainstorm brain injury, so I may have repressed knowledge of the term) though it makes perfect sense to me. This doesn't mean Candy necessarily experienced such an episode, only that I have, and partially understand situations that might trigger it. I found it quite frightening, and willingly spent a week in the secure ward of a local hospital after that happened.
After reading some of the other comments here, I agree that she should not have been acquitted. Even if she were not guilty due to mental incapacitated, she was a danger to herself and others, and clearly needed treatment and monitoring.
I am here after years amd love to see that you have got subscribers in millions now . You deserve it . I am Doc my self and i will specialize in Psychiatry .your videos are a great source ,you are awesome keep up the good work
I know nothing about this case and it doesn’t interest me at all. But Todd, you’re a hoot. I am a big dry humour fan. Thanks.