The 911 operator was able to keep him on the phone and was wise to take the opportunity to ask questions that gave us an insight in Jake’s mind. Bravo to that individual.
I don't know why people denigrate 911 operators so much. Their jobs are extremely hard and they have to come up with questions on the fly for situations like this. There is no training for the calls of such a shocking nature and it is hard to keep someone on the phone for that long.
@@TruFlyFox Most courses within the dispatcher/operator training program will often include the following: Basic Telecommunications. Advanced First Aid/CPR/AED. Critical Incident Stress. Hazardous Materials. Terrorism. Suicide Intervention. Emergency Medical Dispatch. Domestic Violence.
One of the craziest aspects is that his sister thought he was joking when he aimed the gun at her. It shows that she, and likely no one in their family, had any idea what kind of a person Jake actually was. She clearly loved her brother and believed she had a close and trusting relationship with him, without realizing he was a psychopath just pretending to be normal until he could make his move.
His sister knew he was mentally ill, far from normal. She knew how he was and who he was exactly who he was she lived with him, raised with him. What the *uck are you talking about? That's why she laughed at him because he would probably do shit like that it was an a mental institution for 3 years so that I could find him competent before putting him in prison. Everyone's talking about this kid like he's normal he's one of the most abnormal people there are and that's what she knew about her brother and that's why she laughed
This is so creepy. He should never get out of prison because he is really dangerous to everyone. If someone can kill their own mom and sister, then the rest of society doesn't stand a chance. I understand his actions, he was incapable of empathy, and he was full of rage. He is dangerous and he always will be.
The thing is, he wasn't filled with rage. He's a psychopath, he thought it would be a worthwhile experience. He was very concerned with how he felt about it afterwards and the consequences to himself, but had no interest in his victims. When he is released he will probably not kill again unless he thinks the thrill of killing is worth a life sentence. In either case he will enjoy the attention from his family and feelings sorry for himself.
I hadn't heard about Jake's claims that his sister had said racist things before, but when you mentioned it, I also thought that that must've been Jake painting his sister (and other family) as horrible people to make himself feel better and/or make people side with him. How convenient of him to point out that he argued with his sister about that, also painting himself as the "good" person who stands up against racism. Like a "yeah I killed my mom and sister, but at least I'm not a racist" type deal. Okay, dude, real impressive. Do you want a cookie or something? You just ruined your family (who loved you) for no good reason... Rest in peace, Jamie and Mallory, and I hope the remaining family has been able to find some sort of peace. Lastly, here's hoping Jake never gets out.
I agree with you. Jake should remain in prison and die in prison. The race card does not fly here. His relatives had the right to their feelings, otherwise everyone would be killed for not feeling like their neighbor. Besides that, the relatives he killed are not alive to deny his allegations and that is his fault. BTW, I am a Black person. Shame on Jake for using racism to mitigate his crime.
I believe that racist dialogue with his sister is a pure fiction on his part. He's the cold blooded killer here, and he's just trying to do some victim blaming to somehow justify his horrible actions. It's very convenient for him to just claim whatever he wants about his sister now, there os bo proof, she can not dispute, she's dead.
@@claire2.097 Maybe I wasn't too clear on it in my original comment, but yeah, I think he made it up too. Just another way for him to disrespect his victims, most likely. Ugh, I feel so sad for Jamie and Mallory (and the surviving family too, of course). They deserved a better son and brother than Jake turned out to be.
Interesting that Jake waited until his father was out of town. Might suggest cowardice or maybe that he wanted to hurt his father by leaving him alive and taking away his wife and possibly favorite child. I’m not diagnosing anyone, just speculating on what could be happening in a case like this one. 😊
This case now has me wondering just how many people there are in the world who sit on the fence about committing such evil acts like Jake Evans but decide against it for whatever reason. It’s a truly harrowing thought.
@@philochristos Hopefully (and probably), none. I would like to think that the amount of people in the world who sincerely think this way are far and few. But it’s somewhat unsettling that you can never know for certain unless they choose to follow through with their psychopathic thoughts.
@@jamaaldavis6243 If you watch too many true crime videos on RUclips you can't help but wonder who in your family is most likely to kill you. It's almost always a family member.
If their level of psychopathy is high enough they'll eventually do it, but it can also be argued that without a significant trigger event they may never quite go over the edge.
Poor Mallory. She must have really loved her brother. I did everything to avoid my brother at that age. I would have never voluntarily asked him to spend time with me like that. Poor baby.
@@yarnpowerit's kind of a misconception that that all homeschoolers are socially isolated. There are a lot of extracurricular activities that many homeschoolers participate in. Additionally, many "homeschoolers" take classes a few days a week. Nearly every homeschooler I know, including myself, had activities with other (non-sibling) kids almost every day of the week.
@@yarnpowerto clarify, I realize that homeschooling can be used to isolate your kids, but I think that this contingent is in the minority. Most people homeschool to provide their children a more personalized education.
She was so innocent she just wanted to watch a movie with him its crazy how easy it is to forget about how somebody else feels because of how you feel..
@@Zepster77 She didnt. I think he meant how oblivious the guy was as to how her sister felt. Poor girl, teens tend to just be rude during puberty, but she wasnt. I've watched countless true crime documentaries and this is such a sad case.
How do you do this? You put out so much content(not short content) they are so detailed and even though some are about sad things your humor and jokes make things less heavy hearted. Thanks Dr. Grande for giving us such great content!!
@@Ken-fh4jcthat's why I said how do I do this. He puts out so much content and has to read tons of stuff and do his analysis tape and edit..he puts videos out like daily.
@@sarabrant723a lot of RUclipsrs batch film in advance. So they will set a certain couple days in the week for researching the topic, a couple days putting together a script, and then will batch film a bunch of videos on one day with some breaks in between. This allows them to schedule videos to be put out on a daily to weekly basis without actually needing to film and do the most stressful stuff daily. He may also outsource his editing, but his format probably doesn't require much editing. That's been what I've seen works best from the creators I know and follow. This allows them to take days off when needed and keep a schedule, much like a regular work week. He probably thinks of it as a second or main job so he can put that effort in because he gets paid from views, Patreon, and sponsors. This allows him to take more time from a 9-5 or regular career schedule at an office. If I had to guess, this is similar to the way he films.
Dr. Grande, I hate to say that my favorite part of your recent videos have been the Factor ads at the beginning. Your little dog peeping over the table brings a smile to my face every time! They remind me of our family dog we had for 15 years.
I know Jake and his entire family. We lived in Aledo at the time and at that time it was a small enough town that most people knew each other. I met Jake and his family through two of his aunts. As a matter of fact I am a photographer and they hired me to take their family portrait to include the grandparents as an anniversary gift. Those photos were the last ones taken of the whole family before the murders. I want the internet to know that some things happen behind closed doors and can be different in reality than what outsiders see. What I felt about that family was that they were a very close knit family. They spent a lot of time together. Jake’s dad who I am also friends with, he and his sisters spent time together every weekend. This is a kind and loving family so far as I have ever known. Now my impression of Jake honestly, is that he was always quiet as a mouse with little to no engagement. He seemed quiet and reserved. It was like pulling teeth to get him to smile and even when he did it didn’t look genuine. Keep in mind this was not long before the murders. I didn’t put much thought into because teenagers are like that when they don’t want to get dressed up and pose for pictures for and hour and a half. But looking back after the murders I can look back and see that maybe he was in a mental crisis about taking pictures with a family he seemingly despised. That is speculation and opinion on my part. Not facts as I have no way of knowing where he was mentally at the time of the photo session. Prior to all of that Jake seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn’t a trouble maker, he wasn’t mean. He was loved. He was once very close to Mallory. Also there are a lot of other things this video didn’t mention like the fact that Mallory and Jake were home schooled for some time and it had a negative effect on him. His mother converted to Catholicism a short time before the murders. That was a HUGE change for the whole family as I am sure you can image. Jake had attended public school at the time of the murders. I will end this by saying one, the Aledo community was devastated by this tragic and heartbreaking event and they rallied around the family. I attended the funeral at Jamie’s church and it was shoulder to shoulder. Something went seriously wrong with Jake and who knows if he will ever be released and if so will he kill again. I want to think not. And also, I don’t hate him. I don’t hate anyone. I refuse to allow hate to take up residence in my heart or mind. I am not the judge, the jury or the condemner. His fate lies elsewhere. My take away from this video is that it was ok, touched on some of facts, but didn’t offer enough facts to educate the internet on this story as a whole part. Jake was summed up by one tragic night. Followed up by a lot of hateful comments from people who don’t know all the facts and didn’t know the family. This tragedy makes me sad for the whole family. No one should ever have to go through this.
The methodical planning and internal dialogue justifying his actions is quite frightening. The sadism is strong with this one. Thanks for the analysis, Dr Grande!
what "creates" a sadist, I wonder? as in, where does it begin, emotionally, before it begins to express itself behaviorally? I'd be so interested to hear Dr Grande's theory on this..
He will definitely get out. He was not convicted for life. He will be out in twenty years and you can bet we will have another serial killer on our hands.
You must be naive if you think that he will commit something like that again.Prison isnt exactly the most comfortable place as its boring.He will definitely regret it soon
I think that is the only part of this horrendous ordeal where he showed that he still had some conscience. He decided not to hurt his sister and shot her again to take her out of her misery. (I am assuming after being shot in the back and in the head she was pretty far gone. Ditto for the mother.) He said he could have killed anyone, but the fact is, he didn't. He mentioned more than once that his sister and mother had hurt him, maybe bullied him, seems they insulted him. This was not random. I would guess he was pretty passive and they actually were pretty mean to him and he had no outlet for his emotions and no one to talk to about it -- for many years. Not to condone his actions, but just to understand what caused this horrific crime -- it seems to me that his resentment and anger just bottled up and one day exploded. He had probably thought about killing them for years -- every time they belittled him. When the sister made a racist comment, it just verified to him that she was not a good person and really deserved to die. The fact that he said he was not going to kill again and that it was really messed up, makes me think that he DID regret it -- almost immediately. I think he had fantasized that "getting even" would give him a big sense of relief and satisfaction, even worth going to prison for -- but after killing them, he realized that did not happen. I think he DID feel remorse or maybe disgust or shame -- whatever he felt, it was not what he thought he would feel. He may not know himself since he is so bad at expressing his emotions and processing them in a healthy way.
The word evil represents a profound ignorance encouraged by the church meant to polarize and judge others based on how different they were. For ex: evil witches publicly burned were just different enough to cost them their lives, and were rebellious, headstrong women but not evil. "Confirming the kill" has many purposes but one is to end suffering, which he stated. A conscience? Maybe your empathy is limited to "good people".
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n He shot his sister and mother. Why would anyone have empathy for a premeditated murderer? 'Ending the suffering' of someone you caused suffering to because you shot them is not an action worthy of empathy or admiration. You sound like a psychopath, which is evidently what you are.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Despite being religious I agree. It seems as though they view anything "sinful" as simply what the unknown is. I have an extremely religious aunt that told anyone who would listen that pot was an extremely bad drug before it was legalized and 5 years later she's a regular pot smoker who tells people the benefits, lol! I think sin today is a far-cry from what was originally intended when the term was 1st coined. I prefer the philosophical definition of evil that I learned in university, which is that anything evil is simply the "absence of good." I think this is a much better term, as within this context, anyone and everyone can do evil and be evil.
All that psyching up he had to do before the killings, and the horror he experienced and mentioned afterward, almost suggests morality. It’s beyond disturbing that people can just go rogue like this.
@@wren180 It crazy, a couple of years ago a boy in Mass stabbed his mom a bunch of times and then went to the movies. Very well to do family. The think it was a psychotic break but this guy doesn't sound like a break because of the movie he watched.
Thank you Dr Grande I was refreshing to hear you say that murderers often times fully understand what they are doing. We are the ones who are struggling with the reality of what they've done.
He said it was the most horrifying thing (killing his family) that he had ever experienced. I wonder if he has ever stopped to think about how horrifying it was for his victims.
Yeah and when Dr. Grande touched on Jake's rant about bullies I thought to myself "You are a thrill-seeking psychopathic murderer! That's literally the ultimate kind of bully!" What a sick puppy. God help anyone that encounters this bastard when he leaves prison.
Have you ever thought that's why he did it? Because he know's exactly how it feels. Something I hope you never feel is his wrath and scorn along side those other horrifying feelings.
@cindyl3297 100%. I don't carry and I'm im real estate. I'm 4'11, 100lbs. I do worry and ponder on whether I should carry or not. I'm just afraid of a freak accident.
The aspect I find most interesting about this case is how Jake deliberately prepared himself psychologically to commit these murders. He wanted to kill, but in order to work himself into it he watched Michael Myers and focused on the character's lack of guilt and remorse. Then he prepared himself to kill his sister by thinking only on the things she had done that had made him angry. The movie and his sister's moments of sibling cruelty and other objectionable actions did not make Jake kill. Jake made Jake kill, and purposely chose to work himself into doing the deeds. It's also interesting that he immediately called the police on himself and confessed. I really don't like the idea that people like Jake will ever be freed from prison, because I don't trust that any rehab can reliably reform such a psychology. Also, after having spent decades in prison from such a young age, how will he be ready to live harmlessly in a word of normal people and cope with the normal stresses of work and human interaction? I can't see that working out well for the people around him. I wonder why ha wasn't given a life sentence without parole?
@@michaelroot682 Yes. I understood that. I wasn't quite accurate with my question. What I'm wondering is whether that's a good and wise reason to free him. I understand that teenagers' brains are not fully developed and normal kids do some impulsive, stupid stuff. But what this young man did was so horrific and extreme, and he so deliberately planned and prepared his mind for the deed, I wonder if there's any coming back from that? Especially after spending almost a lifetime in prison with other criminals from such a young age and not having experience with adult responsibility for oneself, out in the world. Maybe he can come back from all that, but I'm wondering and skeptical.
I can't understand why we as a society are forever going out of our way to be fair to psycho-killers, mass murderers, and other deviants. A guy slaughters everybody in his English class and it's like the worst thing we can do is be unfair or not consider his terrible upbringing or all the excuses he might have.
In the Netherlands he would probably spend about the same time in prison (perhaps a bit less in view of his age), but after release he would most likely remain locked up in a psychiatric institution until declared cured (which might be never). Is there such a thing in the US?
The reality, that I purposely shock myself with, is that most people are completely unpredictable at any time. We truly have no idea what people are capable of, and that's why I keep my guard up and aware of those around me, and the situations I place myself in. My wife says I can be paranoid, but based on this horrible event, and so many others, I call it strategically safe. Or as safe as I can be. Really comes down to protecting myself, family, and friends. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and the details about the sister, really stay with you.
NO DOUBT! YOUR COMMENT, WHILE, OF COURSE, WAS A LINE DRIVE TO THE CORE OF THE ISSUE. SADLY, I THINK, JUST LIKE ME BEING AN ALCOHOLIC (SOBER 6.5 YEARS, AM 50), WITH THE MINDSET I HAD IN THE 90’S DIDN’T WANT TO BE TALKED OUT OF DRINKING. WHAT WAS MY FIRST STEP WAS TO WANT TO WANT TO STOP 🛑.
This case highlights the destructive power of callousness. It’s unbelievable how self centered he is. I am not sure if evil exists or not, but if so he is very close to it. Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤
As much as I love the episodes, when Dr. Grande does his advertisements, I just love it when he does big cheese grins for the pictures! It brings me joy :)
Thank You. There are no words for this but your analogy helped me see this horrific tragic situation in a new light. I have often what could drive someone to kill their family members I always thought they were insane. I am beginning to see some times it’s just a person who is evil acting on their desires. Hard to comprehend.
Hi Dr. Grande! There’s a case I just heard of involving a 19 year old girl named Mackenzie Shirilla, I haven’t seen anyone really talk about the case and would love if you did a video examining the murders she was charged with!!! Thank you in advance! Really hope you can make a video on it ❤
If you listened to Dr. Grande's presentation, he had sadistic and psychopathic traits, not much empathy, and he identified with a fictional serial killer, instead of being repulsed by, or horrified by, this killer. Instead of being scared by these traits in himself, he found this part of himself congenial.
I think what tipped him was some Jealousy with Mallory and blamed particularly his Mom. The question for me, is why were the 2 eldest homeschooled and not the younger? Something or nothing here? Maybe it was just for the "experience". He must have been quite the coward to select his own, vs the "danger" of a lone, but unknown, victim. You know what I mean w/o spelling it out.
@@music0cool Some sadistic psychopaths are born, and some are a product of their DNA plus their environment (abuse, neglect). If his childhood environment was fairly normal, it would seem he was just born that way. Some people with destructive urges are horrified by them and get help, and some enjoy that side of themselves. He wasn't repulsed by his thoughts and fantasies of hurting others, and instead sought out role models in horror films, and eventually decided to enact his fanstasies in real life.
The judge only sentencing him to about 10 years a murder if he’s paroled on time seems unbelievable to me. Yes he cooperated and plead guilty but that should not negate his prison sentence to this degree in my opinion. As Dr G said he knew right from wrong and did this purely out of curiosity to see how it would feel. Just my opinion but this murderer should of received life with no chance of parole
Thing is, a lot of the bigger district courts have been ruling "life without parole" for people under 21 unconstitutional. So even though calculated murderers like Nathaniel Fujita got life without parole at 18, they're eligible for parole after 20 to 30 years in MA anyway. Regardless, Evans should have got a stiffer sentence (like minimum 40 without parole). And it might be foolhardy of me but I take comfort in "eligible" doesn't mean "freedom" (i.e. if judges still think he's a risk after reviewing his case, he won't be let out.)
These videos continue to blow me away. Sometimes simplicity requires the most skill, this video is proof of that. The ability to write and present a story this well takes multiple skills and a ton of talent. Its impressive.
I’ve been waiting for this one! Such an inexplicable case when I heard about it. It’s hard for me to grasp the places some people live in mentally. Thank you for covering it Dr. Grande!
Only 17 and so much rage and anger. How utterly sad. Probably had no functional relationships. No quality friendships. A murderer now dark and dangerous. Tragic. 😢😢😢
I did not have any friends at 17 but I did not go around killing everything I hated or my own family. Same with my brother. But when someone get hyper fixated on something around that age good or bad, it is hard to convince teens other wise. The mind is just only starting to wire correctly. The parents can be the sweetest people and teens can find something to hate. I feel some teens just get to amped on the adrenaline and the thrill of breaking rules or even following the rules. I feel the the extremes can go both ways. I had a class mate and all she wanted to do was help the community and give and give. She would make protests outside coffee shops who pretend that they recycled. She was almost arrested because of that. It was driven out of her fear of dying like her siblings at 16. Her brothers died and her sister got pregnant all when they were 16. She was petrified of turning 16 because of it. Her mother was too depress and her father had died in a car wreck. Not many kids at the school actually liked her because of how fake happy she always was. I really think friends can help but they can also make it much worse.
There must be a long historical back story to this. How was he growing up? Did he ever deliberately hurt or kill animals? Did he ever feel remorse or guilt when he misbehaved? And the elephant in the room - how did his family miss any red flags when growing up? This is indeed unsettling.
Homeschooling children can be quite isolating and having no interaction with others can make them feel like they’re the only one who has feelings like they experience. I’m not trying to explain or excuse his actions but being able to hear peers complain about their situations could let him know he has a regular life.
I agree that in these cases where the kids had no apparent previous disturbing behaviour or obvious trauma I’m always curious to know more about their history and what they were like from people who knew them. The only commonality seems to be they frequently are described as quiet or loners so probably spend a lot of time in “in their heads”. It’s also important to remember that things and people are often not what they seem from the outside.
@@martyalhe didn't have a regular life though...seemed rather wealthy actually & homeschool isn't devoid of socialisation - kids in public/private schools are just as likely to lash out & be anti-social....he really could just be a psychopath
If he was truly a narcissist (in addition to other disorders) this implies severe early childhood trauma. Rarely are such acts committed in a vacuum. This family has secrets for sure and it's likely he is not the only narcissist in the family.
Thank you for being so tasteful in how you cover tragic incidents like this. I enjoy your videos for the insight into behavior, splash of news, and some humor when appropriate, and always in a good balance.
Dr. Grande's analysis of Jake's state of mind and how Jake related to Mike Myers is very impressive. I didn't realize the things Dr. Grande explained. Wow. I watched that part of the video 3 times.
Had some extra time tonight, so I watched your video a bit early (I usually save them for the next morning's coffee). Always glad to see your little dog's cameo, every time you plug Factor (the little canine face peeking over the table is something I always look for).
I think many underestimate how many people 'just want to know what it's like to kill someone'. I also think that someone like this perp also wants someone to look after them for the rest of their lives. Whether it be their parents or the state, they're OK with their choice - at least at the moment.
Sometimes I think it’s a mistake for children to grow up so distanced from killing their own food. I always wanted to have a little hobby farm so I went for it and I’ve witnessed my children interacting with the animals and experiencing difficulties when it is time to kill an animal. I have a low level of disgust and thrived in the medical profession as a result and even I was surprised at how difficult it was to butcher an animal! I suppose this can go the other way, of course, and encourage sadistic behavior. But at least, for my children, I have been able to foster compassion for the wildlife in our area as well as for the animals we raise for food. They’ve learned that killing anything is incredibly unpleasant.
@@lostandfound5145many cultures have been hunting and killing their own meat since the beginning of time. Most have ceremonies surrounding them paying respect to the animal. They don’t have overwhelming amounts of kids turning into sadists because of it. The way people approach and teach hunting and killing makes a huge difference.
There are segments of society, certain people, that for whatever reason cannot accept that evil exists. People who perform the ultimate in anti-social acts, simply because that is their nature. Those who are unable to see human nature as it is, are in my opinion, partly culpable if crime rates increase in the face of reduced sentencing, "restorative" justice, judicial mitigation of sentence lengths, and other mechanisms that return the most dangerous among us back onto the streets.
So true. Nowadays we are always looking for some diagnoses from a person who specializes in the mental health field. Their hope is that once we know what the label is we can look into fixing it. The sad truth is some faults are unfixable.
Exactly ! Just like everyone is obsessed with narcissism , these days . We need narcissist within society . Who among us will do the most dangerous jobs ? How many of the original astronauts were narcissist ? Probably 100% . There's no justice when it comes to murder . You murder someone , you should be unalived . I'm sick of hearing about " removing the stigma of mental illness" . Hell nah !!! I don't wanna be subjected to crazy people . I'm not ignoring my gut feeling . I don't need the drama . Having lived with a schizo during my youth . I'm done with empathy and understanding . The best thing that happened to my family was when the nut , self deleted . Eye for an eye because no one has walked out of their grave .
Because for one thing, evil is a construct of the Christian faith where mental illness doesn't exist. But that's complicated and thinking is against the rules. Also: God did it. God says categorically he is the author of evil: “I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7). "Evil" is not human nature, it's a copout. The rest of your blather has zero citations to reliable sources, you and your echo chamber just made it up. But I'm listening if you have some true facts. I predict an angry reply.
Agreed, they think that child murderers must be victims themselves and refuse to see that some people do evil things for fun and malice with no other reason. People that excuse this evil are facilitating them.
Doc that was incredible! "Speculations" such as that are the reason you make the big bucks. That was you at your best as far as psychology is concerned. I sincerely applaud you.
This remembers me of Lowell Lee Andrews, who was featured in the novel In Cold Blood. He killed his parents and his sister and was executed for it. He was diagnosed as psychotic. In the book he was consistently featured as he was dead inside.
"Featured" is not quite right. "In Cold Blood" devoted only a few pages to the Andrews murders; it 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘥 the killing of four members of the Clutter family.
It's so sad to learn about the youth of today committing murder. It makes me wonder about how their entire childhood was and if there were any warning signs leading up to the murders he was about to commit. I just received your book, "The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers." Fascinating! I am an astrologer studying forensic astrology, in particular serial killers, and your book is an incredible learning tool. Thank you Dr. Grande for your extraordinary content and analysis of these difficult cases and topics.
If I lived in a house that was wasn't its own gated, had a pool house, and had enough rooms that there was enough spare for an art room, the last thing I'd do is kill somebody. Dude was set and he threw it all away for nothing.
JESUS! Did you guys see the SIZE OF THAT house!!? It's a wonder he could FIND them TO shoot them in that thing! In that house it's no WONDER it took the cops 25 minutes to get him!
Pool house, art room, study…did these people live in the board game Clue?!? Jokes aside, what a tragedy for this family. Thanks for the analysis Dr. Grande.
I completely agree with you Dr. He will kill again if he's released! There's just some people that can't be helped. Thank you for another great video Dr❤❤❤
Can you cover the Shirilla case in Ohio? 17yo in a bad relationship flips out and kills her bf and another. What an ugly case that is, hard to imagine a life in prison , but she clearly did it. I struggle with these 16-19yo murderers, and culpability
10 year olds know the difference between right and wrong, so he knew the difference. He complains that people are mean for no reason. What is he? Beyond mean, Evil. He's making up sister's racism and looking for anything to get out of jail time. Obvious manipulation. He's a piece of Sh/t!
Teenagers have very strange brains compared with adults. They can be very impulsive and overly emotional. Finally the Scotus ruled no one under 18 can be imprisoned for life without parole because as brain matures that needs to be factored in. In this case stealing a handgun showed premeditation, his fascination with horror films is similar to a murder by a teen of a live interest in the woods but didn't realize cameras in the area showed him after the act. This case sounds like an idiot teen lashing out feeling of he kills everyone then he won't have to deal with them anymore. He had dark fantasies not unlike other teen killers. He knew it was wrong. He grew up in privilege. Jeffrey Dahmer also shy knew killing was wrong since he first murdered the hitchhiker and felt his impulses were not something he could control. It is very difficult even for experts to understand these motivations only know that the aftermath is permanent for the victims and their families. If we could only catch and stop teens before they murder their family friends or strangers. A 6 year old shot his teacher and exclaimed he felt good about it. That child is now in intense therapeutic setting to reset his young brain away from his anger. His grandfather says intervention is helping the child develop less destructive ways to deal with frustration. My condolences to the father in this case above he had to suffer the loss of his entire family.
Kind of repulsive that his psychopathy lends him to actually see himself as Holden Caufield in The Catcher in the Rye. Yet some are so far twisted and gone and their delusions so extreme and so far gone that they truly believe their brain’s lies. *Shivers.
a healthy 17 year old boy who doesn't go to school, watches movies all day and night, eats take out by himself in the pool house and doesn't cut the lawn , , , the math required to solve the "why" of the murder equation is pretty rudimentary
Completely spoiled and selfish. It's the same with toddlers. The more you bend over backwards for them, the angrier they get. What they really want is an authority figure to step in and correct them. Children who have never experienced this never develop empathy.
Thank you for covering this case Dr. Grande. Truly a sad and unfortunate situation all around. What he did was awful, but I hope he recovers mentally in the future. It is clear he was not mentally well.
Scary to hear how he was interacting with them like he enjoyed their presence while simultaneously thinking of how he'd "do it." Smh Makes you question how well you know those you spend time with and how honest they truly are. It also makes me more aware of how others must perceive me and all my eccentricities. 😮💨
The 911 operator was able to keep him on the phone and was wise to take the opportunity to ask questions that gave us an insight in Jake’s mind. Bravo to that individual.
The insight being he's not dangerous any more? The cops took 25 minutes to get there. Plus he was a Chatty Cathy that never shut up so...
I think she was trying to keep him on the phone until the police showed up.
I don't know why people denigrate 911 operators so much. Their jobs are extremely hard and they have to come up with questions on the fly for situations like this. There is no training for the calls of such a shocking nature and it is hard to keep someone on the phone for that long.
Agree! It was great she kept him on the phone. She documented his confession
@@TruFlyFox Most courses within the dispatcher/operator training program will often include the following:
Basic Telecommunications.
Advanced First Aid/CPR/AED.
Critical Incident Stress.
Hazardous Materials.
Terrorism.
Suicide Intervention.
Emergency Medical Dispatch.
Domestic Violence.
One of the craziest aspects is that his sister thought he was joking when he aimed the gun at her.
It shows that she, and likely no one in their family, had any idea what kind of a person Jake actually was.
She clearly loved her brother and believed she had a close and trusting relationship with him, without realizing he was a psychopath just pretending to be normal until he could make his move.
Most likely, the parents knew something was seriously off. Usually siblings lack the maturity and worldly knowledge to understand.
Extremely sad
His sister knew he was mentally ill, far from normal. She knew how he was and who he was exactly who he was she lived with him, raised with him. What the *uck are you talking about? That's why she laughed at him because he would probably do shit like that it was an a mental institution for 3 years so that I could find him competent before putting him in prison. Everyone's talking about this kid like he's normal he's one of the most abnormal people there are and that's what she knew about her brother and that's why she laughed
If he thinks people are rude and racist outside of prison, imagine how he felt when he got there.
He probably made that up to justify killing his sister.
Where minority is majority and bads are worse
Beautifully said.@@kimmccabe1422
He was obviously highly sheltered from any broad experience.
I was thinking the exact same thing 😂
He should not have any chance of parole! It’s absolutely ridiculous!
Can’t imagine how his dad and remaining sisters are coping with everything. Hope they’re healing
This is so creepy. He should never get out of prison because he is really dangerous to everyone. If someone can kill their own mom and sister, then the rest of society doesn't stand a chance. I understand his actions, he was incapable of empathy, and he was full of rage. He is dangerous and he always will be.
and you’re totally qualified to make that decision right?
@@poindextertunesyes, and I am, too. 👍🇺🇲
So he doesn't like racism, he's going to understand what real racism is when he's locked up in prison when black inmates sexually assault him
The thing is, he wasn't filled with rage. He's a psychopath, he thought it would be a worthwhile experience. He was very concerned with how he felt about it afterwards and the consequences to himself, but had no interest in his victims. When he is released he will probably not kill again unless he thinks the thrill of killing is worth a life sentence. In either case he will enjoy the attention from his family and feelings sorry for himself.
You don’t need a doctorate to know this guy is dangerous!
I hadn't heard about Jake's claims that his sister had said racist things before, but when you mentioned it, I also thought that that must've been Jake painting his sister (and other family) as horrible people to make himself feel better and/or make people side with him. How convenient of him to point out that he argued with his sister about that, also painting himself as the "good" person who stands up against racism. Like a "yeah I killed my mom and sister, but at least I'm not a racist" type deal. Okay, dude, real impressive. Do you want a cookie or something? You just ruined your family (who loved you) for no good reason...
Rest in peace, Jamie and Mallory, and I hope the remaining family has been able to find some sort of peace. Lastly, here's hoping Jake never gets out.
One thing about leftists or "liberals" as they're known is that they tend to be sociopathic.
I agree with you. Jake should remain in prison and die in prison. The race card does not fly here. His relatives had the right to their feelings, otherwise everyone would be killed for not feeling like their neighbor. Besides that, the relatives he killed are not alive to deny his allegations and that is his fault. BTW, I am a Black person. Shame on Jake for using racism to mitigate his crime.
There are people I call "victim-bullies" because they cry wolf in order to get someone to come to their defense so they can watch a fight or whatever.
I believe that racist dialogue with his sister is a pure fiction on his part. He's the cold blooded killer here, and he's just trying to do some victim blaming to somehow justify his horrible actions. It's very convenient for him to just claim whatever he wants about his sister now, there os bo proof, she can not dispute, she's dead.
@@claire2.097 Maybe I wasn't too clear on it in my original comment, but yeah, I think he made it up too. Just another way for him to disrespect his victims, most likely.
Ugh, I feel so sad for Jamie and Mallory (and the surviving family too, of course). They deserved a better son and brother than Jake turned out to be.
He should never be let out of prison. His personality says he will do something again when he gets out.
Interesting that Jake waited until his father was out of town. Might suggest cowardice or maybe that he wanted to hurt his father by leaving him alive and taking away his wife and possibly favorite child. I’m not diagnosing anyone, just speculating on what could be happening in a case like this one. 😊
Probably just hated females.
underrated comment 🤣😌
I hadn't thought of the possibility that he killed his mother and sister to punish his father. What a coldly dreadful thought.
@@DaisyLee1963 yeah gotta do mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that he was sparing his father 🤡
Jake might have realized at some level that his father could stop him. He did not fear his sisters or mom or grandparents.
This case now has me wondering just how many people there are in the world who sit on the fence about committing such evil acts like Jake Evans but decide against it for whatever reason. It’s a truly harrowing thought.
That is a scary thought. I wonder how many people have thought seriously about killing me but didn't.
@@philochristos Hopefully (and probably), none. I would like to think that the amount of people in the world who sincerely think this way are far and few. But it’s somewhat unsettling that you can never know for certain unless they choose to follow through with their psychopathic thoughts.
@@jamaaldavis6243 If you watch too many true crime videos on RUclips you can't help but wonder who in your family is most likely to kill you. It's almost always a family member.
I would venture to say most don’t do it because they don’t want to sit in a steel box for a significant portion of their life.
If their level of psychopathy is high enough they'll eventually do it, but it can also be argued that without a significant trigger event they may never quite go over the edge.
Poor Mallory. She must have really loved her brother. I did everything to avoid my brother at that age. I would have never voluntarily asked him to spend time with me like that. Poor baby.
She was being homeschooled so was probably lonely. :(
@@yarnpowerit's kind of a misconception that that all homeschoolers are socially isolated. There are a lot of extracurricular activities that many homeschoolers participate in. Additionally, many "homeschoolers" take classes a few days a week. Nearly every homeschooler I know, including myself, had activities with other (non-sibling) kids almost every day of the week.
@@yarnpowerto clarify, I realize that homeschooling can be used to isolate your kids, but I think that this contingent is in the minority. Most people homeschool to provide their children a more personalized education.
In all fairness, your brother is a lactose intolerant cheddar addict who's constantly farting.
Why would you avoid your brother? Asking as an only child, I don't know what it is with sibling relationships and not wanting to be close.
She was so innocent she just wanted to watch a movie with him its crazy how easy it is to forget about how somebody else feels because of how you feel..
Whuuuuut? She obviously didn’t have any idea how he “felt”
@@Zepster77 She didnt. I think he meant how oblivious the guy was as to how her sister felt. Poor girl, teens tend to just be rude during puberty, but she wasnt. I've watched countless true crime documentaries and this is such a sad case.
How do you do this? You put out so much content(not short content) they are so detailed and even though some are about sad things your humor and jokes make things less heavy hearted. Thanks Dr. Grande for giving us such great content!!
A good portion is reading the case report.
He's the BEST!
@@Ken-fh4jcthat's why I said how do I do this. He puts out so much content and has to read tons of stuff and do his analysis tape and edit..he puts videos out like daily.
@@sarabrant723a lot of RUclipsrs batch film in advance. So they will set a certain couple days in the week for researching the topic, a couple days putting together a script, and then will batch film a bunch of videos on one day with some breaks in between. This allows them to schedule videos to be put out on a daily to weekly basis without actually needing to film and do the most stressful stuff daily. He may also outsource his editing, but his format probably doesn't require much editing. That's been what I've seen works best from the creators I know and follow. This allows them to take days off when needed and keep a schedule, much like a regular work week. He probably thinks of it as a second or main job so he can put that effort in because he gets paid from views, Patreon, and sponsors. This allows him to take more time from a 9-5 or regular career schedule at an office. If I had to guess, this is similar to the way he films.
It's true each of these requires a good deal of research and that is impressive.
Dr. Grande, I hate to say that my favorite part of your recent videos have been the Factor ads at the beginning. Your little dog peeping over the table brings a smile to my face every time! They remind me of our family dog we had for 15 years.
Yes, let Dr. Grande get his bag 👑 He deserves it. 👏
I know Jake and his entire family. We lived in Aledo at the time and at that time it was a small enough town that most people knew each other. I met Jake and his family through two of his aunts. As a matter of fact I am a photographer and they hired me to take their family portrait to include the grandparents as an anniversary gift. Those photos were the last ones taken of the whole family before the murders.
I want the internet to know that some things happen behind closed doors and can be different in reality than what outsiders see. What I felt about that family was that they were a very close knit family. They spent a lot of time together. Jake’s dad who I am also friends with, he and his sisters spent time together every weekend. This is a kind and loving family so far as I have ever known.
Now my impression of Jake honestly, is that he was always quiet as a mouse with little to no engagement. He seemed quiet and reserved. It was like pulling teeth to get him to smile and even when he did it didn’t look genuine. Keep in mind this was not long before the murders. I didn’t put much thought into because teenagers are like that when they don’t want to get dressed up and pose for pictures for and hour and a half. But looking back after the murders I can look back and see that maybe he was in a mental crisis about taking pictures with a family he seemingly despised. That is speculation and opinion on my part. Not facts as I have no way of knowing where he was mentally at the time of the photo session.
Prior to all of that Jake seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn’t a trouble maker, he wasn’t mean. He was loved. He was once very close to Mallory. Also there are a lot of other things this video didn’t mention like the fact that Mallory and Jake were home schooled for some time and it had a negative effect on him. His mother converted to Catholicism a short time before the murders. That was a HUGE change for the whole family as I am sure you can image. Jake had attended public school at the time of the murders.
I will end this by saying one, the Aledo community was devastated by this tragic and heartbreaking event and they rallied around the family. I attended the funeral at Jamie’s church and it was shoulder to shoulder.
Something went seriously wrong with Jake and who knows if he will ever be released and if so will he kill again. I want to think not.
And also, I don’t hate him.
I don’t hate anyone. I refuse to allow hate to take up residence in my heart or mind. I am not the judge, the jury or the condemner. His fate lies elsewhere.
My take away from this video is that it was ok, touched on some of facts, but didn’t offer enough facts to educate the internet on this story as a whole part. Jake was summed up by one tragic night. Followed up by a lot of hateful comments from people who don’t know all the facts and didn’t know the family.
This tragedy makes me sad for the whole family. No one should ever have to go through this.
The methodical planning and internal dialogue justifying his actions is quite frightening. The sadism is strong with this one. Thanks for the analysis, Dr Grande!
what "creates" a sadist, I wonder? as in, where does it begin, emotionally, before it begins to express itself behaviorally?
I'd be so interested to hear Dr Grande's theory on this..
Basic shyness felt bullied felt moral superiority needs to feel powerful and in control.
He hated women because he couldn't get any.
I hope Jake is never let out! Thank you Dr. Grande for another thoughtful video!
He will definitely get out. He was not convicted for life. He will be out in twenty years and you can bet we will have another serial killer on our hands.
@@Mari-go5hc He'll be almost 60 so recidivism risk will be fairly low for murder. Wouldn't leave him alone with young kids or anything, though.
Or adults 🙄
@@ampa4989He could be out in 20 so he wouldn't even be 40yrs old if he makes parole.
This is a dark story for me, but the bright spot is that sweet face peeking over your dinner table.
Bella must be your constant companion ♥️
WILD that this man has a chance at freedom one day and the opportunity to commit another unimaginably heinous act.
@@robert5697What cultures would you hold up as models?
You must be naive if you think that he will commit something like that again.Prison isnt exactly the most comfortable place as its boring.He will definitely regret it soon
Okay Joe Rogan 😂
Tbh I doubt he'll kill his mother again
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 what if he goes to an alternate universe?
Jake went back and shot his sister and mother again! To make sure they were dead. No conscience. Evil.
I think that is the only part of this horrendous ordeal where he showed that he still had some conscience. He decided not to hurt his sister and shot her again to take her out of her misery. (I am assuming after being shot in the back and in the head she was pretty far gone. Ditto for the mother.)
He said he could have killed anyone, but the fact is, he didn't. He mentioned more than once that his sister and mother had hurt him, maybe bullied him, seems they insulted him. This was not random. I would guess he was pretty passive and they actually were pretty mean to him and he had no outlet for his emotions and no one to talk to about it -- for many years. Not to condone his actions, but just to understand what caused this horrific crime -- it seems to me that his resentment and anger just bottled up and one day exploded. He had probably thought about killing them for years -- every time they belittled him. When the sister made a racist comment, it just verified to him that she was not a good person and really deserved to die.
The fact that he said he was not going to kill again and that it was really messed up, makes me think that he DID regret it -- almost immediately. I think he had fantasized that "getting even" would give him a big sense of relief and satisfaction, even worth going to prison for -- but after killing them, he realized that did not happen. I think he DID feel remorse or maybe disgust or shame -- whatever he felt, it was not what he thought he would feel. He may not know himself since he is so bad at expressing his emotions and processing them in a healthy way.
The word evil represents a profound ignorance encouraged by the church meant to polarize and judge others based on how different they were. For ex: evil witches publicly burned were just different enough to cost them their lives, and were rebellious, headstrong women but not evil.
"Confirming the kill" has many purposes but one is to end suffering, which he stated. A conscience? Maybe your empathy is limited to "good people".
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n He shot his sister and mother. Why would anyone have empathy for a premeditated murderer? 'Ending the suffering' of someone you caused suffering to because you shot them is not an action worthy of empathy or admiration. You sound like a psychopath, which is evidently what you are.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Nope, evil is a real thing that exists within certain people.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Despite being religious I agree. It seems as though they view anything "sinful" as simply what the unknown is. I have an extremely religious aunt that told anyone who would listen that pot was an extremely bad drug before it was legalized and 5 years later she's a regular pot smoker who tells people the benefits, lol! I think sin today is a far-cry from what was originally intended when the term was 1st coined. I prefer the philosophical definition of evil that I learned in university, which is that anything evil is simply the "absence of good." I think this is a much better term, as within this context, anyone and everyone can do evil and be evil.
All that psyching up he had to do before the killings, and the horror he experienced and mentioned afterward, almost suggests morality. It’s beyond disturbing that people can just go rogue like this.
It’s frustrating not understanding people like this and their reasonings. But ultimately it’s a good thing we can’t comprehend it.
I honestly think this is a true case of a psychotic break.
@@wren180 It crazy, a couple of years ago a boy in Mass stabbed his mom a bunch of times and then went to the movies. Very well to do family. The think it was a psychotic break but this guy doesn't sound like a break because of the movie he watched.
This is because people are on a spectrum. He had some minor feelings of morality and shame but his dark side was much stronger and eventually won.
@@inrptnHe wanted his dark side to win. He pushed his morality aside and explained how he was able to do it.
why does the system insist on letting psychopaths out in society again to commit more crimes?
I hate to say it but it’s the truth..l most democrats have bleeding hearts and they think they can rehabilitate people like this
Thank you Dr Grande I was refreshing to hear you say that murderers often times fully understand what they are doing. We are the ones who are struggling with the reality of what they've done.
He said it was the most horrifying thing (killing his family) that he had ever experienced. I wonder if he has ever stopped to think about how horrifying it was for his victims.
Put Jake on a Ants Nest.. ......
At this point , who cares what this demon thinks or says. May he burn in Hell.
Yeah and when Dr. Grande touched on Jake's rant about bullies I thought to myself "You are a thrill-seeking psychopathic murderer! That's literally the ultimate kind of bully!" What a sick puppy. God help anyone that encounters this bastard when he leaves prison.
Have you ever thought that's why he did it? Because he know's exactly how it feels. Something I hope you never feel is his wrath and scorn along side those other horrifying feelings.
@@NamesZKPPipe down psychopath. That comment is twisted.
The police showed up...25 minutes LATER??? Wow.
the cops were lucky the operator kept the killer occupied
Ikr? Much quicker than average.
Another reason to be pro 2A
@cindyl3297 100%.
I don't carry and I'm im real estate. I'm 4'11, 100lbs. I do worry and ponder on whether I should carry or not. I'm just afraid of a freak accident.
He could have killed the whole neighbourhood
The aspect I find most interesting about this case is how Jake deliberately prepared himself psychologically to commit these murders.
He wanted to kill, but in order to work himself into it he watched Michael Myers and focused on the character's lack of guilt and remorse. Then he prepared himself to kill his sister by thinking only on the things she had done that had made him angry.
The movie and his sister's moments of sibling cruelty and other objectionable actions did not make Jake kill. Jake made Jake kill, and purposely chose to work himself into doing the deeds.
It's also interesting that he immediately called the police on himself and confessed.
I really don't like the idea that people like Jake will ever be freed from prison, because I don't trust that any rehab can reliably reform such a psychology. Also, after having spent decades in prison from such a young age, how will he be ready to live harmlessly in a word of normal people and cope with the normal stresses of work and human interaction? I can't see that working out well for the people around him.
I wonder why ha wasn't given a life sentence without parole?
I think his lenient sentence was because he was a minor, pretty sure the doc said he was 17
@@michaelroot682 Yes. I understood that.
I wasn't quite accurate with my question. What I'm wondering is whether that's a good and wise reason to free him.
I understand that teenagers' brains are not fully developed and normal kids do some impulsive, stupid stuff. But what this young man did was so horrific and extreme, and he so deliberately planned and prepared his mind for the deed, I wonder if there's any coming back from that? Especially after spending almost a lifetime in prison with other criminals from such a young age and not having experience with adult responsibility for oneself, out in the world.
Maybe he can come back from all that, but I'm wondering and skeptical.
Totally agree.
I can't understand why we as a society are forever going out of our way to be fair to psycho-killers, mass murderers, and other deviants. A guy slaughters everybody in his English class and it's like the worst thing we can do is be unfair or not consider his terrible upbringing or all the excuses he might have.
In the Netherlands he would probably spend about the same time in prison (perhaps a bit less in view of his age), but after release he would most likely remain locked up in a psychiatric institution until declared cured (which might be never). Is there such a thing in the US?
The reality, that I purposely shock myself with, is that most people are completely unpredictable at any time. We truly have no idea what people are capable of, and that's why I keep my guard up and aware of those around me, and the situations I place myself in. My wife says I can be paranoid, but based on this horrible event, and so many others, I call it strategically safe. Or as safe as I can be. Really comes down to protecting myself, family, and friends. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and the details about the sister, really stay with you.
The pic of you in the shirt at the table with your dog is honestly so wholesome
What you said at the end is exactly what I was thinking. The courts may have given us another serial killer.
Dr.Grande, thank you for the frequent uploads, keeping us all entertained. Enjoying the podcast as well!
I liked your little commercial! The dog peeking over the table is hilarious!
I wish we had a way to encourage people with these thoughts to seek out therapy before they act on their desire.
NO DOUBT! YOUR COMMENT, WHILE, OF COURSE, WAS A LINE DRIVE TO THE CORE OF THE ISSUE. SADLY, I THINK, JUST LIKE ME BEING AN ALCOHOLIC (SOBER 6.5 YEARS, AM 50), WITH THE MINDSET I HAD IN THE 90’S DIDN’T WANT TO BE TALKED OUT OF DRINKING. WHAT WAS MY FIRST STEP WAS TO WANT TO WANT TO STOP 🛑.
@@jasonfield3903 but even your affliction is nothing compared to the desire to be a mass murderer.
In this case, Jake went out of his way to commit that.
There may be some way to help some kids with such thoughts, but they would have to want to be helped. That's the sticking point.
I had a pen pal who was a murderer. He sought professional help before his offence but was refused it.
This case highlights the destructive power of callousness. It’s unbelievable how self centered he is. I am not sure if evil exists or not, but if so he is very close to it.
Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤
His actions were definitely evil. So sorry for his surviving family members. 😞
Hey at least he was def not a racist 😆
@@rheverendbuy
It does exist, and he is.
You're not sure what evil is, are you? Is he evil, or his actions or is it a guiding spirit like a guardian angel? If God created everything...
"in reality, his actions are going to excite and satisfy him forever" well said Dr. Greande! That's the truth about psychopathy.
As much as I love the episodes, when Dr. Grande does his advertisements, I just love it when he does big cheese grins for the pictures! It brings me joy :)
they should NEVER let that murderer out. he will kill again as soon as he gets out
Thank You. There are no words for this but your analogy helped me see this horrific tragic situation in a new light. I have often what could drive someone to kill their family members I always thought they were insane. I am beginning to see some times it’s just a person who is evil acting on their desires. Hard to comprehend.
I always enjoy your speculation and analysis
Hi Dr. Grande! There’s a case I just heard of involving a 19 year old girl named Mackenzie Shirilla, I haven’t seen anyone really talk about the case and would love if you did a video examining the murders she was charged with!!! Thank you in advance! Really hope you can make a video on it ❤
That's crazy how your own family flesh and blood could plot to kill you 😭
It's downright scary
Cain and Abel
Every murderer in human history has relatives. Thinking it couldn't possibly happen to you is often a fatal misapprehension.
And they presumably had no idea he was plotting these murders. Terrifying.
@@celeca7 How did you come to that conclusion? This is not your average family.
What would drive someone so young to murder their sister and mother? This is so sad ….
If you listened to Dr. Grande's presentation, he had sadistic and psychopathic traits, not much empathy, and he identified with a fictional serial killer, instead of being repulsed by, or horrified by, this killer. Instead of being scared by these traits in himself, he found this part of himself congenial.
I think what tipped him was some Jealousy with Mallory and blamed particularly his Mom. The question for me, is why were the 2 eldest homeschooled and not the younger? Something or nothing here? Maybe it was just for the "experience". He must have been quite the coward to select his own, vs the "danger" of a lone, but unknown, victim. You know what I mean w/o spelling it out.
@@evelynwaugh4053 Yeah but how did he grow up and develop to be this way, is what they're asking
@@music0cool Some sadistic psychopaths are born, and some are a product of their DNA plus their environment (abuse, neglect). If his childhood environment was fairly normal, it would seem he was just born that way. Some people with destructive urges are horrified by them and get help, and some enjoy that side of themselves. He wasn't repulsed by his thoughts and fantasies of hurting others, and instead sought out role models in horror films, and eventually decided to enact his fanstasies in real life.
@@wrmlm37But he intended to kill his whole family, even his grandparents 😮
If he thought his family was suffocating him, he will really hate jail
these are both good points
The judge only sentencing him to about 10 years a murder if he’s paroled on time seems unbelievable to me. Yes he cooperated and plead guilty but that should not negate his prison sentence to this degree in my opinion. As Dr G said he knew right from wrong and did this purely out of curiosity to see how it would feel. Just my opinion but this murderer should of received life with no chance of parole
Thing is, a lot of the bigger district courts have been ruling "life without parole" for people under 21 unconstitutional. So even though calculated murderers like Nathaniel Fujita got life without parole at 18, they're eligible for parole after 20 to 30 years in MA anyway.
Regardless, Evans should have got a stiffer sentence (like minimum 40 without parole). And it might be foolhardy of me but I take comfort in "eligible" doesn't mean "freedom" (i.e. if judges still think he's a risk after reviewing his case, he won't be let out.)
I can’t be the only one who doesn’t see why tax payers have to support him for life.
These videos continue to blow me away. Sometimes simplicity requires the most skill, this video is proof of that. The ability to write and present a story this well takes multiple skills and a ton of talent. Its impressive.
I’ve been waiting for this one! Such an inexplicable case when I heard about it. It’s hard for me to grasp the places some people live in mentally. Thank you for covering it Dr. Grande!
Only 17 and so much rage and anger. How utterly sad. Probably had no functional relationships. No quality friendships. A murderer now dark and dangerous. Tragic. 😢😢😢
I wonder if there was pressure on him to excel since he was the only male child.
I did not have any friends at 17 but I did not go around killing everything I hated or my own family. Same with my brother. But when someone get hyper fixated on something around that age good or bad, it is hard to convince teens other wise. The mind is just only starting to wire correctly. The parents can be the sweetest people and teens can find something to hate. I feel some teens just get to amped on the adrenaline and the thrill of breaking rules or even following the rules. I feel the the extremes can go both ways. I had a class mate and all she wanted to do was help the community and give and give. She would make protests outside coffee shops who pretend that they recycled. She was almost arrested because of that. It was driven out of her fear of dying like her siblings at 16. Her brothers died and her sister got pregnant all when they were 16. She was petrified of turning 16 because of it. Her mother was too depress and her father had died in a car wreck. Not many kids at the school actually liked her because of how fake happy she always was. I really think friends can help but they can also make it much worse.
Rage? He didn't seem to have any anger at all. He was cold as ice.
There must be a long historical back story to this. How was he growing up? Did he ever deliberately hurt or kill animals? Did he ever feel remorse or guilt when he misbehaved? And the elephant in the room - how did his family miss any red flags when growing up? This is indeed unsettling.
Homeschooling children can be quite isolating and having no interaction with others can make them feel like they’re the only one who has feelings like they experience. I’m not trying to explain or excuse his actions but being able to hear peers complain about their situations could let him know he has a regular life.
I agree that in these cases where the kids had no apparent previous disturbing behaviour or obvious trauma I’m always curious to know more about their history and what they were like from people who knew them. The only commonality seems to be they frequently are described as quiet or loners so probably spend a lot of time in “in their heads”.
It’s also important to remember that things and people are often not what they seem from the outside.
@@martyalhe didn't have a regular life though...seemed rather wealthy actually & homeschool isn't devoid of socialisation - kids in public/private schools are just as likely to lash out & be anti-social....he really could just be a psychopath
If he was truly a narcissist (in addition to other disorders) this implies severe early childhood trauma. Rarely are such acts committed in a vacuum. This family has secrets for sure and it's likely he is not the only narcissist in the family.
I believe that the diagnosis is incorrect. It sounds like major depression with psychotic features, with nihilistic delusions.
Thank you for being so tasteful in how you cover tragic incidents like this. I enjoy your videos for the insight into behavior, splash of news, and some humor when appropriate, and always in a good balance.
As bad a childhood as I had it sure would have been different if I wood have had a parent like you. Your children are so blessed
Dr. Grande's analysis of Jake's state of mind and how Jake related to Mike Myers is very impressive. I didn't realize the things Dr. Grande explained. Wow. I watched that part of the video 3 times.
Had some extra time tonight, so I watched your video a bit early (I usually save them for the next morning's coffee). Always glad to see your little dog's cameo, every time you plug Factor (the little canine face peeking over the table is something I always look for).
This really is one of the more disturbing cases I've listened to and I can't quite put my finger on why...
This is insane. His description of the events tells how disturbed he is.
Evans: "I ki11ed my family, or whatever. I'm sorry, I guess." So weird.
@@dante6985sounds like how teens talk. Using minimizing language is common when trying to avoid responsibility.
I think many underestimate how many people 'just want to know what it's like to kill someone'.
I also think that someone like this perp also wants someone to look after them for the rest of their lives. Whether it be their parents or the state, they're OK with their choice - at least at the moment.
Sometimes I think it’s a mistake for children to grow up so distanced from killing their own food.
I always wanted to have a little hobby farm so I went for it and I’ve witnessed my children interacting with the animals and experiencing difficulties when it is time to kill an animal.
I have a low level of disgust and thrived in the medical profession as a result and even I was surprised at how difficult it was to butcher an animal!
I suppose this can go the other way, of course, and encourage sadistic behavior. But at least, for my children, I have been able to foster compassion for the wildlife in our area as well as for the animals we raise for food.
They’ve learned that killing anything is incredibly unpleasant.
@@lostandfound5145many cultures have been hunting and killing their own meat since the beginning of time. Most have ceremonies surrounding them paying respect to the animal. They don’t have overwhelming amounts of kids turning into sadists because of it. The way people approach and teach hunting and killing makes a huge difference.
@@cady__ you’re right, the approach makes all the difference!
There are segments of society, certain people, that for whatever reason cannot accept that evil exists. People who perform the ultimate in anti-social acts, simply because that is their nature. Those who are unable to see human nature as it is, are in my opinion, partly culpable if crime rates increase in the face of reduced sentencing, "restorative" justice, judicial mitigation of sentence lengths, and other mechanisms that return the most dangerous among us back onto the streets.
So true. Nowadays we are always looking for some diagnoses from a person who specializes in the mental health field. Their hope is that once we know what the label is we can look into fixing it. The sad truth is some faults are unfixable.
Exactly ! Just like everyone is obsessed with narcissism , these days . We need narcissist within society . Who among us will do the most dangerous jobs ? How many of the original astronauts were narcissist ? Probably 100% . There's no justice when it comes to murder . You murder someone , you should be unalived . I'm sick of hearing about " removing the stigma of mental illness" . Hell nah !!! I don't wanna be subjected to crazy people . I'm not ignoring my gut feeling . I don't need the drama . Having lived with a schizo during my youth . I'm done with empathy and understanding . The best thing that happened to my family was when the nut , self deleted . Eye for an eye because no one has walked out of their grave .
@@neige4221Animals kill each other. There really isn’t a difference
Because for one thing, evil is a construct of the Christian faith where mental illness doesn't exist. But that's complicated and thinking is against the rules. Also: God did it. God says categorically he is the author of evil: “I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7). "Evil" is not human nature, it's a copout. The rest of your blather has zero citations to reliable sources, you and your echo chamber just made it up. But I'm listening if you have some true facts. I predict an angry reply.
Agreed, they think that child murderers must be victims themselves and refuse to see that some people do evil things for fun and malice with no other reason. People that excuse this evil are facilitating them.
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande!
I think it's safe to say but this is one of the most chilling stories I've ever heard
Doc that was incredible! "Speculations" such as that are the reason you make the big bucks. That was you at your best as far as psychology is concerned. I sincerely applaud you.
This remembers me of Lowell Lee Andrews, who was featured in the novel In Cold Blood. He killed his parents and his sister and was executed for it. He was diagnosed as psychotic. In the book he was consistently featured as he was dead inside.
"Featured" is not quite right. "In Cold Blood" devoted only a few pages to the Andrews murders; it 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘥 the killing of four members of the Clutter family.
"This remembers me..." Cela me rappelle? or me fait penser à?
@@jguenther3049 You're right. Thanks!
Wow this analysis sent shivers down my spine in the final thoughts, thanks Dr Grande.
Thank you Dr. Grande ... this is a very interesting and thought generating video. Scary ....
It's so sad to learn about the youth of today committing murder. It makes me wonder about how their entire childhood was and if there were any warning signs leading up to the murders he was about to commit. I just received your book, "The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers." Fascinating! I am an astrologer studying forensic astrology, in particular serial killers, and your book is an incredible learning tool. Thank you Dr. Grande for your extraordinary content and analysis of these difficult cases and topics.
forensic astrology
Interesting
Thanks for your great work, Dr Grande! Your fan from Germany.
Seeing as Jake thought over the situation enough to think of his life would be after kinda suggests the idea of jail appealed to him.
This guy should never be allowed out of prison. He's a danger to everyone around him.
Dr. Grande, nice shirt during that food commercial. Also, your little dog peeping up there is cute.
This case is so disturbing.
2:18, the bunnies, are those salt and pepper shakers? They are darling. And your lil doggie's head peeking up from the table made my day.🥰
Unfortunately there are many evil people like Jake Evans getting out of prison every day.
And not getting in
They get sentenced to time served everyday!
AND getting Plea Deals...
Thank you for the time and effort you put into creating these videos. I appreciate your insight and calm voice.
Pure evil. What a sad world we are living in :(
Just WOW! Great analysis, Dr. Grande. Thanks for all that you do to bring these true stories to us.
If I lived in a house that was wasn't its own gated, had a pool house, and had enough rooms that there was enough spare for an art room, the last thing I'd do is kill somebody. Dude was set and he threw it all away for nothing.
I went to school with jake since elementary, we had English class together in 7th grade and he was always very quiet sitting in the back
Omg how horrifying!!! Do you know any info on how his remaining two sisters and dad are doing?! I hope none of them are in contact with him
JESUS! Did you guys see the SIZE OF THAT house!!? It's a wonder he could FIND them TO shoot them in that thing! In that house it's no WONDER it took the cops 25 minutes to get him!
Dr. Grande's casual (yet not) reference to the art room, the pool house, the study.....opposite the grandparent's house.....no doubt similar...
It's not that unusual for rich, privileged kids to lack an emotional connection to their families. Pretty sad stuff.
"he then entered the pool house, then the art room", couldn't figure out how to play the victim card so he blamed racism 🤮
Proof that money and a stable family aren’t enough in themselves to make a healthy human
@@lostandfound5145exactly. Man will always find a reason to do evil.
Thanks Dr. Grande, i always enjoy your analyses.
Pool house, art room, study…did these people live in the board game Clue?!?
Jokes aside, what a tragedy for this family. Thanks for the analysis Dr. Grande.
I completely agree with you Dr. He will kill again if he's released! There's just some people that can't be helped. Thank you for another great video Dr❤❤❤
Wow, that ending you did was incredibly well thought out and powerful.
Todays question is; will I enjoy this video? I am absolutely diagnosing me with yes, I do believe I am guilty of this crime.
If cringe was a crime you’d be serving life without parole
And now moving to my analysis. This is just a theory. My opinion… this video provides many positive entertainment values. For example _ . Lmaoo
@61shirley after conversing with my lawyers, I will take the Alfred plea
@@Spudawg ❤️
Yes, you will get an adrenaline fix to temporarily mollify your addiction.
That outdo was poetry. Amazing work as usual
Can you cover the Shirilla case in Ohio? 17yo in a bad relationship flips out and kills her bf and another. What an ugly case that is, hard to imagine a life in prison , but she clearly did it. I struggle with these 16-19yo murderers, and culpability
Yes, this is an unsettling case.
I just read about this also. Nuts! Need Dr. G to help us understand this? 🤔😓💀
10 year olds know the difference between right and wrong, so he knew the difference. He complains that people are mean for no reason. What is he? Beyond mean, Evil. He's making up sister's racism and looking for anything to get out of jail time. Obvious manipulation. He's a piece of Sh/t!
Teenagers have very strange brains compared with adults. They can be very impulsive and overly emotional. Finally the Scotus ruled no one under 18 can be imprisoned for life without parole because as brain matures that needs to be factored in. In this case stealing a handgun showed premeditation, his fascination with horror films is similar to a murder by a teen of a live interest in the woods but didn't realize cameras in the area showed him after the act. This case sounds like an idiot teen lashing out feeling of he kills everyone then he won't have to deal with them anymore. He had dark fantasies not unlike other teen killers. He knew it was wrong. He grew up in privilege. Jeffrey Dahmer also shy knew killing was wrong since he first murdered the hitchhiker and felt his impulses were not something he could control. It is very difficult even for experts to understand these motivations only know that the aftermath is permanent for the victims and their families. If we could only catch and stop teens before they murder their family friends or strangers. A 6 year old shot his teacher and exclaimed he felt good about it. That child is now in intense therapeutic setting to reset his young brain away from his anger. His grandfather says intervention is helping the child develop less destructive ways to deal with frustration. My condolences to the father in this case above he had to suffer the loss of his entire family.
I’ve never heard of this case. After reading the comments, I presume that it’s an intense case.
That was a great analysis Sir!!
Loved this! Much appreciated.
This one is exceptionally good! Insightful, Dr. Grande. 👍
He should NEVER be paroled
Do not think he can be rehabilitated
What is one more victim
Of course he will be paroled, but he's not coming to your house, why so worried?
Dr. Grande, you are in your wheelhouse and owning it! Love to see your happy smile too!
Kind of repulsive that his psychopathy lends him to actually see himself as Holden Caufield in The Catcher in the Rye. Yet some are so far twisted and gone and their delusions so extreme and so far gone that they truly believe their brain’s lies. *Shivers.
The food footage has a certain panache. Chef's kiss. Great work as always, Dr Grande. ✌️❤️🍺
One of the few who did voice how horrible it was to do the actual murders. Too bad that reality couldn't have occurred to him first. 😓😫💀
This!!
But even in this he only felt sorry for himself.
Liked your analysis. It was very clear. His surviving family must be requiring extensive mental health care - and maybe protection in a few decades.
I really think this guy should never be released from prison.
Your analysis in this particular case is so powerful
a healthy 17 year old boy who doesn't go to school, watches movies all day and night, eats take out by himself in the pool house and doesn't cut the lawn , , , the math required to solve the "why"
of the murder equation is pretty rudimentary
Parental neglect, AKA abuse
Completely spoiled and selfish.
It's the same with toddlers. The more you bend over backwards for them, the angrier they get. What they really want is an authority figure to step in and correct them.
Children who have never experienced this never develop empathy.
Your picture with the little dog peeking up is amazing
Thank you for covering this case Dr. Grande. Truly a sad and unfortunate situation all around. What he did was awful, but I hope he recovers mentally in the future. It is clear he was not mentally well.
thanks for the compassion and lack of judgement in your comment. this young mans future should be left to the medical professionals
I remember seeing this case on another site. I appreciate the in depth information you give us, very informative, thank you!!
Ending a mother and sister and he will get out of prison??? Anyone willing to end a mother and sister is clearly a danger to everyone else.
Scary to hear how he was interacting with them like he enjoyed their presence while simultaneously thinking of how he'd "do it." Smh Makes you question how well you know those you spend time with and how honest they truly are. It also makes me more aware of how others must perceive me and all my eccentricities. 😮💨
Some people are just born evil. They are loved and often have good parents and a stable family so that is not the explanation.