Whenever there are children involved in these summaries, I can't help but think about how terrified those two young toddlers were to see both their parents killed in front of them, then to see their aunt, someone they believed would protect them, watch as they too were killed....and around Christmas, when most children their age are excited by the wonder of the season... Horrible, horrible....
Speaking of Jesus birthday nothing like a good scripture 1 Samuel 15: Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
It often amazes me how sometimes the worst people for each other seem to find each other. Each of them bad enough on their own, but together enabling and supporting their worst traits.
I can't believe the cops showed up at the gate, saw that it was locked, and just left. Such an unbelievable level of incompetence, truly out of this world.
@poopy-333 The Zodiac Killer comes to mind. They could've had him when he murdered Ben Stein by the Presidio that night, but they got a description of a black man from dispatch.
Keep that same energy. 1 Samuel 15:3 " Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
I tried to get Alabama police to check up on my sister who was in an abusive relationship. They wouldn't cross the 'gate'- A single chain one foot off the ground. I had to drive from Arizona to deal with the situation.
Some people do halfjobs and sometimes these types are in positions that you can't have this type of attitude . And i am sad to say even in police work there are lazy a- holes . And this is a part of the sad truth . Sorry you had to deal with this .
I’ve found police won’t do that if you’re calling from another state. I tried to do it for someone and they said either someone in the house or someone who lived in the actual state they were in needed to call 😩
There's almost no point in asking the police for a welfare check. If no one answers the door they just leave and never go back. They don't walk around the house or look in windows. The police are useless.
@@cady__ Perhaps that varies. I have called from another state with good results. It might have something to do with your apparent credibility over the phone. There are lots of circumstances that warrant a welfare check, which might avert more serious problems for that law enforcement agency or prevent a situation. Most departments appreciate that. If you were an officer, you'd probably prefer to get someone medical help rather than discovering a 3 week old body down the line, so it's really in their best interest.
This was terrifying. We lived on our horse farm about 10 miles north of Carnation at the time and this insanity just didn't happen there. It was a bucolic area where many people had horses or cows and there were herds of wild elk. It's lush and green with the Snoqualmie River running through and the Tolt River not far away. On December 24, 2007 we had snow for Christmas. Murder came to visit that horrible Christmas day to our peaceful bit of paradise where there was never any violent crime. It was shattering to everyone. 💔
Murder visits anywhere. Just because everyone has farms and horses, and Oh Susanna…..doesn’t mean that a town is immune to tragedy. Horrible things can happen anywhere involving all sorts of people. I know a murder that happened about 30 years ago in a wealthy horsey community. The husband killed his rich wife in the stable using a sledgehammer. He called the police and told them that her horse kicked her to death in a stall. The police quickly surmised that he was lying. The guy was convicted and sentenced to life. It can happen anywhere humans live. Be careful out there.
I had accidentally called 911 and hung up, not knowing it went through. I was in a building that had a gated entrance with a tall chain-link fence. It was locked. The police arrived and physically climbed over the 9 foot tall fence (a male and female cop) and knocked on the door. I didn't hear them, so they yelled up at the window with a light and shined their flashlights into the room. I saw that and told them thank you for showing up and I was sorry for calling accidentally. Now that is awesome police assistance!!! Those police showed up and didn't bother climbing over their fence?? They could have caught those two douchebags in the act!!!!
@@desertweasel6965You can ask “what if” as much as you want, but the point is in this case the police did not do their do diligence. If they had gone over the fence and then the two murderers convinced them to leave without witnesses anything incriminating then maybe people wouldn’t have an issue or would be upset that they didn’t go in the home. We will never know though because they didn’t even try to enter the property.
You do you, but it's always beyond me how people use the word "evil", it's a tag word that can be applied as an opinion, and it'll immediately become charged. "Abortions are evil" and "Kenneth Copeland is evil" describe two completely different things, evil is in your perception, it just doesn't exist otherwise. "Psychopathic murderers" says much more about what they did and how.
@@fnsdjkovnsdkvn how so? It's 3AM here when Dr. Grande's videos come out, so I'm not exactly the sharpest when I'm writing comments here. I understand that my thought sounds somewhat odd to you, so I'll be glad to hear your non-nonsense position.
*_FunFact:_* at the 1:35 mark, we can observe Dr. Grande, with nothing but a simple application of some visual components, and letting the viewer internally juxtapose them against the old adage _"a picture is worth a thousand words,"_ being savage af *_FunFacts!_*
This happened in the Greater Puget Sound Area, where I live. It's always so shocking to know that people who live near you are capable of such evil. Or that this type of evil exists at all.
Yea Carnation is like an hour away from me. Violence happens everywhere but it still leaves a strange feeling it happened in a place I've driven by countless times.
We need to bring back public capital punishment with a vengeance and lower the qualifying threshold.. that is the only thing that really deters heinous crimes and crime in general. Public shaming needs to have its day again as well.. and natural selection has been robbed too.
A fine analysis of a horrible case/situation (I fail to understand how the two children could be considered any kind of threat/dangerous in any way). Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.
More heart-wrenching family violence. I'm digging my heels in on "no contact" with a family member that's an on again/off again meth user who hears voices and talks to invisible friends. Tried to help a couple times but it's totally out of my league. Prayers for all the families suffering with drug and alcohol addicted relatives. I thought about commenting on how easy it seems to be to access a gun, but geez, I think these murderers would use anything they could find once they decide to kill.
I watched a video of a guy make a perfect model 1911 in a hut in the jungle with no electricity, he had templates and files and hand tools and managed to make a perfectly functioning semiautomatic, the only thing he couldn’t do himself was the rifling in the barrel, which you only need for accuracy he could make a shotgun way easier, you can make a single shot “slam” gun out of conduit lol
@@muttlee9195 I didnt hear meth mentioned, but it was the first thing I thought of after listening to this story. Senseless idiotic death makes me think of meth. A friend's son terrorized his parents and anyone stupid enough to try to help him, he only robbed people he knew. Usually when they were at home. He was sort of ok till he went on a "meth run" which could go for days. Thankfully for everyone he got out of jail, got onto heroin and killed himself soon after with an overdose. He was making himself miserable with his life as well as everyone who knew him. He had cooked his brain on meth. No coming back.
He thought he was worthless and he was right. Those two children witnessing and then being murdered are beyond despicable. Hopefully he’s beaten every day behind bars and same goes for “skinny but muscular.” How did those kids “step on her” or how was he “protecting her” from them? Thankfully they were dumb as rocks and came right back to the scene.
Dr Grande, you are always so interesting! Your insertion of humor and analysis of the story keeps me captivated. I guess that is one of the ways you keep your sanity in this crazy world!
What the hell is wrong with the responding officers??? What if some of them were still alive? It took two more days before anyone found them. Those police should be held accountable.
It’s a fact that when you are heavily involved with someone with schizophrenic symptoms, you will take on such symptoms as well without having any mental illness, ie: family members, health Carrie professionals in a psychiatric ward, partners and unfortunately cult leaders. This man could’ve been influenced by her mental illness. It’s impossible to say he was or wasn’t since science and facts are to play in this scenario
Hello, Dr. Grande! I hope you're enjoying your evening! Thank You for sharing! I really appreciate your thoughts on these Cases. And I love your sense of humor!
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a McEnroe isn't preoccupied with screaming at a line judge like this.
This was a very big story here in the Seattle area back in 2007. My husband’s daughter and Michelle were friends in elementary school and needless to say “Susan” was was frightened and torn up by what her old friend had become.
Your first response to finding out your online date has been lying to you for 6 months about their appearance should be "ok, bye" and run, not "I'll marry you". Protip right there.
She clearly had a disorder that involved a tendency for agression, tendensy for exaggerated suspicion and lack of ability to find solusions for her bad living conditions. But what such a disorder lead to, is highly dependent upon her experiences in young age. I think it is true that her parents favoured other members of the family and disfavoured her, and kept her down. Possibly also other parts of society did the same to her. The thurst for revenge combined with her disorder lead to her actions. Her boyfriend possibly had a similar history. Without the disorder she would have revenged in a more appropriaate way without killing and destroying her own life. Without bad experiences with family and society her dissorder had not lead to such consequences either.
Killing anyone is absolutely disgusting. Killing children should be automatic torture until the perpetrator is killed. But not only were they children. Those were her niece and nephew? Am I getting that correct? I couldn't imagine.
If only those in favor of abortion knew how disgusting this is. Torture is not what GOD says... "WHOSO SHEDDETH MAN'S BLOOD, BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED: FOR IN THE IMAGE OF GOD MADE HE MAN." GENESIS 9:6!
I’ve seen cops do anything they possibly can to look into houses for under age drinker because of noose complaints. I wonder if these cops would have tried a little harder to see what was going on if it was to make a non violent drug arrest.
I worked with Joe at the target in Kent, Washington. I didn’t know that he moved to the state to be with the girl whose family he would later help her kill. He was odd.
How Absolutely Wicked to Murder her entire Family!! Utterly Cold-blooded, and Cruel! Prayers for the Family How Terrifying for the Family! 💔💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
I knew exactly what case it was as soon as I saw the thumbnail. This will always be one of the most upsetting cases for me. Just incomprehensibly evil.
What a disgrace that the police failed to respond... I hope the officers who did not investigate because of the locked gate rethink their roles in the Police force.
I have a family member that hears voices, but hey they don't have a problem, everyone else is the problem, it's very hard to deal with, I feel like I've been hugged by a cactus every time I'm around them. And they r always right about everything, no matter what it is.
I have only glanced at the thumbnail, but my strong first impression is “ methamphetamine induced psychosis.” now I’m going to watch the video and see if I’m right.
It’s beyond comprehension why someone would choose to finish their own family. Really tragic case. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Dr. Grande.❤
Literally speaking a psychopath is beyond comprehension and the etymology of the word explains it: psyche is Greek for soul = spirit =mind. path-ology derives from pathy - pathos meaning passion in a bad way, suffering etc. So psychopathy is literally a soul / spirit (in this context a mind = brain) that suffers patho-logically. Psycho killers cannot be cured, unless brain transplants become a reality.
I have had a "tense" relationship with some of my family members for DECADES but it has never once entered my mind to do them any harm. This woman is a special kind of evil to be responsible for the end of six of her family members, including two children. I'm glad she is in prison for life!
Dr Grande, I am most impressed with the volume of your content. Every time I open RUclips there’s a fascinating video by you. I enjoy your content massively.
"He just wanted peace & tranquility, but Michele wouldn't let it go, with the murder-her-family idea. Like- "No, I think my murder-my-family idea is better."
Dr. Todd Grande Could you analyze the 90's Marc Dutroux case from Belgium. This case had impact on all of us who were children in the 90's in Europe. It sent shockwaves and serious discussions in classrooms. I don't know how known this case is in the United States but it's as important and topical for contemporary society wether it be USA or Europe, child trafficking and exploitation is still a huge issue.
I had just taken a swig of my drink when you mentioned that she said that she looked like Sarah Connor. It's now on my lap. The drink, not Sarah Connor. I'm only speculating about what could have happened in a situation like this, but I'm guessing that Michelle didn't do this so she could eat all the salad in the refrigerator. Perhaps she wanted a planet named after her, so she became the size of one. Despicable people.
It's amazing what a mess people can make of their lives. After watching about ten of your videos this evening I am amazed by how many people are able to find someone to help them commit murder, or help them to dispose of the remains after a murder. Do these people find each other somehow? If you are not adverse to murder can you see that 'quality' in someone else? Scary stuff!
When you reach 18 you need to support yourself you do not have an entitlement to have your parents support you as an adult no matter how rich the parents are.. It seems the parents tried to make her see this by asking her to pay for the utilities but she still saw herself as a dependent child imo and was outraged by this request.
I refuse to listen to CRIME STORY until I've heard Dr. Grande, so i get the "facts" These stories have shocked me... 1. MacKenzie Shirilla 2. Jared Bridgan's ex-wife 3. Lindsey Shiver
4:55 I’m not sure a 911 hang up with no complaint would create sufficient exigency to allow officers to defeat a locked perimeter gate and approach the house.
Executing 2 little kids is about as heartless as it gets . Straight death penalty
Whenever there are children involved in these summaries, I can't help but think about how terrified those two young toddlers were to see both their parents killed in front of them, then to see their aunt, someone they believed would protect them, watch as they too were killed....and around Christmas, when most children their age are excited by the wonder of the season... Horrible, horrible....
Speaking of Jesus birthday nothing like a good scripture
1 Samuel 15:
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
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Zzz C zzz
The court should have delivered her original request for 'termination' cause that is what she loved
@@stevemcraemanager7119shut up
She did not look like Linda Hamilton, however he decided not to “terminate “ the relationship. Nicely done Doc!
I don't know about you buddy, but that part made me curious as to what the catfish photo looked like!
@@MrEgofreakyes!
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It often amazes me how sometimes the worst people for each other seem to find each other. Each of them bad enough on their own, but together enabling and supporting their worst traits.
Though it's happened throughout history, it seems to have gotten worse with the advent of the internet
They are the leftovers. Sane people run from them.
“Follies aux deus” has been so well documented in history they even gave it a fancy name.
Possibly because no decent person would have them
Like attracts like
I can't believe the cops showed up at the gate, saw that it was locked, and just left. Such an unbelievable level of incompetence, truly out of this world.
There are a lot of 911 calls that are mistakes, cops had nothing to go on. But yeah they should of had a look around.
Its extremely common for police to mess up. A lot of serial killers get away from police being terrible at their jobs
@@poopy-333 Cops want to be politicians or lawyers but don't have the IQs. That's why they are cops.
That really shocked me. Unbelievable.
@poopy-333 The Zodiac Killer comes to mind. They could've had him when he murdered Ben Stein by the Presidio that night, but they got a description of a black man from dispatch.
That side by side shot of this girl and Sarah Connor is just savage work by Dr Grande
The resemblance is uncanny
Is there a timestamp of the photos? I don't see anything but dr grande talking when he mentions the sarah Connor thing.
They had very weak excuses for killing the adults, but none at all for killing those two innocent little children. That’s a special kind of evil.
The motive was to take out every HEIR. In case the will was written where the inheritance went to the grandchildren
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"The word rhymes with grass, and holes, combined"
Something about this delivery really did it for me
What a terrible story. Thanks for covering this case, Dr. Grande.
terrible albeit interesting
evidence that poor family dynamics and rough upbringing can bring people to resentment and eventually homicide
@@You-Know-Youre-RightNo they are both just evil
I love the lord!! Oh lord I lord thee my lord shingleberry 11:4
Oh I remember this one. My cousins lived in Carnation and knew these people. This daughter was the perfect example of being entitled.
Awful. Those poor children and their parents. How horrible
Keep that same energy.
1 Samuel 15:3
" Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
Well… i think the children were too young to know what was happening… at least i’d like to think so. It’s better than being terrified before the end!
I tried to get Alabama police to check up on my sister who was in an abusive relationship.
They wouldn't cross the 'gate'-
A single chain one foot off the ground.
I had to drive from Arizona to deal with the situation.
That's weird. LE always does welfare checks when requested.
Some people do halfjobs and sometimes these types are in positions that you can't have this type of attitude . And i am sad to say even in police work there are lazy a- holes . And this is a part of the sad truth . Sorry you had to deal with this .
I’ve found police won’t do that if you’re calling from another state. I tried to do it for someone and they said either someone in the house or someone who lived in the actual state they were in needed to call 😩
There's almost no point in asking the police for a welfare check. If no one answers the door they just leave and never go back. They don't walk around the house or look in windows. The police are useless.
@@cady__ Perhaps that varies. I have called from another state with good results. It might have something to do with your apparent credibility over the phone. There are lots of circumstances that warrant a welfare check, which might avert more serious problems for that law enforcement agency or prevent a situation. Most departments appreciate that. If you were an officer, you'd probably prefer to get someone medical help rather than discovering a 3 week old body down the line, so it's really in their best interest.
I really admire how you cover these true crime stories. You do them with such respect and clever humor.
This was terrifying. We lived on our horse farm about 10 miles north of Carnation at the time and this insanity just didn't happen there. It was a bucolic area where many people had horses or cows and there were herds of wild elk. It's lush and green with the Snoqualmie River running through and the Tolt River not far away. On December 24, 2007 we had snow for Christmas. Murder came to visit that horrible Christmas day to our peaceful bit of paradise where there was never any violent crime. It was shattering to everyone. 💔
Murder visits anywhere. Just because everyone has farms and horses, and Oh Susanna…..doesn’t mean that a town is immune to tragedy. Horrible things can happen anywhere involving all sorts of people. I know a murder that happened about 30 years ago in a wealthy horsey community. The husband killed his rich wife in the stable using a sledgehammer. He called the police and told them that her horse kicked her to death in a stall. The police quickly surmised that he was lying. The guy was convicted and sentenced to life. It can happen anywhere humans live. Be careful out there.
Hi Dr. Grande. I hope they rot in jail & prison. Hope you are doing fine. Peace to you & yours, love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😀😍🤩🎵🎶🍉🍇🍊🍎🍑🍓🍍🍌☕🍩☕🍩
Lets be honest “this insanity” rarely happens anywhere bad neighborhoods and all.
I had accidentally called 911 and hung up, not knowing it went through. I was in a building that had a gated entrance with a tall chain-link fence. It was locked. The police arrived and physically climbed over the 9 foot tall fence (a male and female cop) and knocked on the door. I didn't hear them, so they yelled up at the window with a light and shined their flashlights into the room. I saw that and told them thank you for showing up and I was sorry for calling accidentally. Now that is awesome police assistance!!! Those police showed up and didn't bother climbing over their fence?? They could have caught those two douchebags in the act!!!!
What if someone had you in there as a hostage making you tell the cops everything was ok? Did they have you come down and speak to them?
And possibly could have saved one or more of the family members...
@@desertweasel6965You can ask “what if” as much as you want, but the point is in this case the police did not do their do diligence. If they had gone over the fence and then the two murderers convinced them to leave without witnesses anything incriminating then maybe people wouldn’t have an issue or would be upset that they didn’t go in the home. We will never know though because they didn’t even try to enter the property.
How do you “accidentally” call 911 and waste the cops time and money when there might be other emergencies,then play stupid.🙄Your a P.O.S
Weird. Most times 911 simply calls back on a hang-up; done it myself.
I remember this case too, the evil daughter and her evil boyfriend murdered her own family. Very cruel and sad.
You do you, but it's always beyond me how people use the word "evil", it's a tag word that can be applied as an opinion, and it'll immediately become charged. "Abortions are evil" and "Kenneth Copeland is evil" describe two completely different things, evil is in your perception, it just doesn't exist otherwise. "Psychopathic murderers" says much more about what they did and how.
@@crabofchaos7881 nonsense
@@crabofchaos7881I like you, you seem like you’re fun to be around.
@@fnsdjkovnsdkvn how so? It's 3AM here when Dr. Grande's videos come out, so I'm not exactly the sharpest when I'm writing comments here. I understand that my thought sounds somewhat odd to you, so I'll be glad to hear your non-nonsense position.
@@eddiebingbong7977 I appreciate it, even if you were being sarcastic.
Those side by side images of Linda Hamilton & Michele Anderson 😅😅😅
dr. grande throws shade like no other 🥶🖤
Don't tell me you saw any difference
What could the kids have ever done? Nothing.
Total beasts
*_FunFact:_* at the 1:35 mark, we can observe Dr. Grande, with nothing but a simple application of some visual components, and letting the viewer internally juxtapose them against the old adage _"a picture is worth a thousand words,"_ being savage af
*_FunFacts!_*
Dr. Grande’s sarcastic summaries are not only hilarious, but really do a great job of explaining what leads to his diagnosis . Awesome content
This happened in the Greater Puget Sound Area, where I live. It's always so shocking to know that people who live near you are capable of such evil. Or that this type of evil exists at all.
Yea Carnation is like an hour away from me. Violence happens everywhere but it still leaves a strange feeling it happened in a place I've driven by countless times.
Absolute monsters. No excuse...them killing young children makes them evil and repulsive.
Why these two should be permitted to live is beyond me.
We need to bring back public capital punishment with a vengeance and lower the qualifying threshold.. that is the only thing that really deters heinous crimes and crime in general. Public shaming needs to have its day again as well.. and natural selection has been robbed too.
No reason. There is no prospect of rehabilitation and no point in waiting around for them to feel bad. Just take the trash out.
Everyone faces Judgement eventually. Do not worry Lovely. Rest in Christ. Trust
A fine analysis of a horrible case/situation (I fail to understand how the two children could be considered any kind of threat/dangerous in any way). Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.
Agree! Dr Grande got the goods 💯👌🏾
Poor kids and the rest of the family as well. Love your analysis in every case you bring to us. Thank you
More heart-wrenching family violence. I'm digging my heels in on "no contact" with a family member that's an on again/off again meth user who hears voices and talks to invisible friends. Tried to help a couple times but it's totally out of my league. Prayers for all the families suffering with drug and alcohol addicted relatives. I thought about commenting on how easy it seems to be to access a gun, but geez, I think these murderers would use anything they could find once they decide to kill.
Get a gun.
I watched a video of a guy make a perfect model 1911 in a hut in the jungle with no electricity, he had templates and files and hand tools and managed to make a perfectly functioning semiautomatic, the only thing he couldn’t do himself was the rifling in the barrel, which you only need for accuracy he could make a shotgun way easier, you can make a single shot “slam” gun out of conduit lol
If you can make a potato gun, which we made plenty when I was a kid, you could make a slam gun it’s caveman tech lol
Meth users will take you down avoid.
@@muttlee9195 I didnt hear meth mentioned, but it was the first thing I thought of after listening to this story.
Senseless idiotic death makes me think of meth. A friend's son terrorized his parents and anyone stupid enough to try to help him, he only robbed people he knew. Usually when they were at home.
He was sort of ok till he went on a "meth run" which could go for days. Thankfully for everyone he got out of jail, got onto heroin and killed himself soon after with an overdose. He was making himself miserable with his life as well as everyone who knew him. He had cooked his brain on meth. No coming back.
He thought he was worthless and he was right. Those two children witnessing and then being murdered are beyond despicable. Hopefully he’s beaten every day behind bars and same goes for “skinny but muscular.” How did those kids “step on her” or how was he “protecting her” from them? Thankfully they were dumb as rocks and came right back to the scene.
Dr Grande, you are always so interesting! Your insertion of humor and analysis of the story keeps me captivated. I guess that is one of the ways you keep your sanity in this crazy world!
Love the humor.
What the hell is wrong with the responding officers??? What if some of them were still alive? It took two more days before anyone found them. Those police should be held accountable.
Ahh Todds humor is too funny once you start to really understand it. Has me LOL all the time.
I was already familiar with this heartbreaking case, but I always appreciate your analysis.
"By avoiding prison, they would have gotten married. Different paths, same destination." Love ya, Doc! LOL
I'm horrified the police just drove away. What a horrific story.
This is such a heartbreaking case
Always interesting.
Another good reason for Me to say home a lot.
People are getting weirder and weirder.
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
I'm really diggin' your videos. Your dry humor cracks me up. Thanks for entertaining us with your educated take on these evil doers.
Beyond words other than tragic and heartbreaking.
No easy way out
It’s a fact that when you are heavily involved with someone with schizophrenic symptoms, you will take on such symptoms as well without having any mental illness, ie: family members, health Carrie professionals in a psychiatric ward, partners and unfortunately cult leaders. This man could’ve been influenced by her mental illness. It’s impossible to say he was or wasn’t since science and facts are to play in this scenario
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Hello, Doctor Grande !!! So happy to see you, I'm starting the video right now, just got home from the grocery store 😀 👍
Hello, Dr. Grande! I hope you're enjoying your evening! Thank You for sharing! I really appreciate your thoughts on these Cases. And I love your sense of humor!
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a McEnroe isn't preoccupied with screaming at a line judge like this.
Only speculating?
You can't be serious!!!
@@Moon_Metty😂 🦓
This was a very big story here in the Seattle area back in 2007. My husband’s daughter and Michelle were friends in elementary school and needless to say “Susan” was was frightened and torn up by what her old friend had become.
I feel so guilty...such tragic, dire cases and I laugh at Dr. Grande's droll humour (I love it) every single time.
Absolutely love your calm demeanor despite what the subject is
Thanks for covering this case
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I'm both angered and disgusted by these murders. Such an unnecessary crime. Who could shoot small children?
Especially her own niece and nephew!
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos
The, "they were rich and she was poor" entitled thinking sounds like waaaay too many younger people in this country.
They tend to forget about the working part of life and actually enjoying work versus sitting around dreaming up schemes
This is just ageism starting to grasp you stronger each day
TAX AND EAT THE RICH TO PAY FOR US TO NOT HAVING TO WORK!
A shocking crime. Glad there was minimal attempts at humour by Dr Grande. Thank you for being respectful to those lost & aggrieved
Be careful who you meet online. Would either of these two people have done this without the other?
Your first response to finding out your online date has been lying to you for 6 months about their appearance should be "ok, bye" and run, not "I'll marry you". Protip right there.
I received your book, The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers No. 1
I'm looking forward to reading it!
"Terminated" the relationship... 😂 We see you Dr Grande!
She clearly had a disorder that involved a tendency for agression, tendensy for exaggerated suspicion and lack of ability to find solusions for her bad living conditions. But what such a disorder lead to, is highly dependent upon her experiences in young age. I think it is true that her parents favoured other members of the family and disfavoured her, and kept her down. Possibly also other parts of society did the same to her. The thurst for revenge combined with her disorder lead to her actions. Her boyfriend possibly had a similar history. Without the disorder she would have revenged in a more appropriaate way without killing and destroying her own life. Without bad experiences with family and society her dissorder had not lead to such consequences either.
Killing anyone is absolutely disgusting. Killing children should be automatic torture until the perpetrator is killed. But not only were they children. Those were her niece and nephew? Am I getting that correct? I couldn't imagine.
If only those in favor of abortion knew how disgusting this is. Torture is not what GOD says... "WHOSO SHEDDETH MAN'S BLOOD, BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED: FOR IN THE IMAGE OF GOD MADE HE MAN." GENESIS 9:6!
I believe in god but I’d give him a chance to forgive me as I believe in vengeance too 🔪 a few years in purgatory would be character building 🧌
@@VPNfreespeech right..God would forgive us for that one
I’ve seen cops do anything they possibly can to look into houses for under age drinker because of noose complaints. I wonder if these cops would have tried a little harder to see what was going on if it was to make a non violent drug arrest.
She looks like she ate Sarah Conner.
Grande is the man!
Reminds me of another case of an entitled adult child that murdered his parents. Guy Joel Jr.
I worked with Joe at the target in Kent, Washington. I didn’t know that he moved to the state to be with the girl whose family he would later help her kill. He was odd.
How Absolutely Wicked to Murder her entire Family!! Utterly Cold-blooded, and Cruel! Prayers for the Family How Terrifying for the Family! 💔💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
I knew exactly what case it was as soon as I saw the thumbnail. This will always be one of the most upsetting cases for me. Just incomprehensibly evil.
What a disgrace that the police failed to respond... I hope the officers who did not investigate because of the locked gate rethink their roles in the Police force.
Dr. Todd, you seem very adept in your field. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I have a family member that hears voices, but hey they don't have a problem, everyone else is the problem, it's very hard to deal with, I feel like I've been hugged by a cactus every time I'm around them. And they r always right about everything, no matter what it is.
Rational thinking doesnt work on delusions or paranoia.
Don’t get too close
Bipolar disorder ? Schizophrenia?
I have only glanced at the thumbnail, but my strong first impression is “ methamphetamine induced psychosis.” now I’m going to watch the video and see if I’m right.
Nope
It’s beyond comprehension why someone would choose to finish their own family. Really tragic case.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Dr. Grande.❤
Literally speaking a psychopath is beyond comprehension and the etymology of the word explains it: psyche is Greek for soul = spirit =mind. path-ology derives from pathy - pathos meaning passion in a bad way, suffering etc. So psychopathy is literally a soul / spirit (in this context a mind = brain) that suffers patho-logically. Psycho killers cannot be cured, unless brain transplants become a reality.
Sometimes people kill people that deserve it.
If it happened to my parents I would care one iota
@@jhoughjr1yikes, bud… you probably should get some help…
@@jhoughjr1you would care exactly one iota?
@@OzymandiasWasRightOddly specific, I’d say.
Thanks for the upload on International Correct Everyone's Grammar, Spelling, and Punctuation Day 2023, Dr. Grande!
We're not going to make it are we? Humans, I mean.
At this point, only the second coming of Jesus is going to help
@@srsusansummers3070...not long now, thank the Lord.
We never stood a chance, it is what it is
We never stood a chance, it is what it is
I have had a "tense" relationship with some of my family members for DECADES but it has never once entered my mind to do them any harm. This woman is a special kind of evil to be responsible for the end of six of her family members, including two children. I'm glad she is in prison for life!
I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis.
Dr Grande, I am most impressed with the volume of your content. Every time I open RUclips there’s a fascinating video by you. I enjoy your content massively.
Yeah, if Sarah Connor gave up on stopping Skynet and gained 200 lb, then started using meth and lost 75 of those pounds
Doctor Macho Grande. You're awesome dude.
The blank rhymes with the word grass and holes combined. Lol Dr. is just the best.
Holy Chrysler I have not heard of this case thanks so much for covering it how terrible
"He just wanted peace & tranquility, but Michele wouldn't let it go, with the murder-her-family idea. Like- "No, I think my murder-my-family idea is better."
Dr. Todd Grande Could you analyze the 90's Marc Dutroux case from Belgium. This case had impact on all of us who were children in the 90's in Europe. It sent shockwaves and serious discussions in classrooms. I don't know how known this case is in the United States but it's as important and topical for contemporary society wether it be USA or Europe, child trafficking and exploitation is still a huge issue.
I had just taken a swig of my drink when you mentioned that she said that she looked like Sarah Connor. It's now on my lap. The drink, not Sarah Connor.
I'm only speculating about what could have happened in a situation like this, but I'm guessing that Michelle didn't do this so she could eat all the salad in the refrigerator.
Perhaps she wanted a planet named after her, so she became the size of one.
Despicable people.
She deserves to be punished for claiming that she looked like Linda Hamilton.
It's amazing what a mess people can make of their lives. After watching about ten of your videos this evening I am amazed by how many people are able to find someone to help them commit murder, or help them to dispose of the remains after a murder. Do these people find each other somehow? If you are not adverse to murder can you see that 'quality' in someone else? Scary stuff!
Suggesting the Sam & Marilyn Sheppard case. Thanks Dr. Grande.
This case made me remember a shocking similar one, in Brazil. The Suzane Richthofen's family, in Oct 31st, 2002.
When you reach 18 you need to support yourself you do not have an entitlement to have your parents support you as an adult no matter how rich the parents are.. It seems the parents tried to make her see this by asking her to pay for the utilities but she still saw herself as a dependent child imo and was outraged by this request.
“Joseph told people he was worthless”….,hey at least he was self-aware, because he was worthless, and so was his gf
When you the photos side by side to compare her and Linda Hamilton was priceless 😂😂😂
Thanks Dr. Grande. Please look into Lucy Letby, English nurse found guilty of murdering 7 babies and attempted murder of 6 others.
She said she looked like Linda Hamelton?🤔😵💫😵💀🤣🤣🤣
This is a shocking story.
"Joseph decided not to terminate the relationship".. I just can't..I know it's all not funny but I just can't stop laughing.
Could you provide your analysis on the Lucy Letby case in the UK? I am concerned given the lack of forensic evidence of a miscarriage of justice.
This is high-level wickedness 😢 And the police left the promise because the gate was locked eshi😢😢
So heartbreaking!!!! Especially for the beautiful innocent children!!!💔😭
4:48 😱 THE POLICE JUST GAVE UP AND LEFT?!?!
All narcissists are delusional.
I refuse to listen to CRIME STORY until I've heard Dr. Grande, so i get the "facts"
These stories have shocked me...
1. MacKenzie Shirilla
2. Jared Bridgan's ex-wife
3. Lindsey Shiver
4:55 I’m not sure a 911 hang up with no complaint would create sufficient exigency to allow officers to defeat a locked perimeter gate and approach the house.
Terrible events.. very tragic and sad.
😢😢😢😢
..but every single time, your dry and sarcastic witty humor kills me ❤
My son is 3 years old my god. This is so horrible
Thank you Dr 👌🏾 I respect and love you so much.