Cam’ron Vs Mase: The Story Behind The Beef

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • This is the story behind the Cam'ron Vs Mase beef.
    #Mase #CamRon #JimJones
    Instagram: / theworldofdre
    Link to more info: www.empirebbk....
    Sources for video:
    (Cam'ron - My Hood)
    • Cam'ron - My Hood
    (The Diplomats - Rap city freestyle 2)
    • The Diplomats - Rap ci...
    (Camron Freestyle Live @ Rapcity 06-08-2005 ))
    • Camron Freestyle Liv...
    (Cam'ron Club Hot Spot Interview (2000))
    • Cam'ron Club Hot Spot ...
    (REAL FOOTAGE 1999 KILLA SEASONCAMRON AND MASE PLAY BASKETBALL)
    • REAL FOOTAGE 1999 KILL...
    (Cam`Ron Feat. Hell Rell - Get `Em Daddy Remix)
    • Video
    (Rap City The Basement Cam'ron Feat. Dipset Interview)
    • Video
    (HQ [Rare footage] Children of the corn - Harlem in 1997 + Bonus Harlem U.S.A clip)
    • HQ [Rare footage] Chil...
    (MASE & HARLEM WORLD - BET RAP CITY 1999 INTERVIEW)
    • MASE & HARLEM WORLD - ...
    (Mase - E.P.K. (1997))
    • Mase - E.P.K. (1997)
    (Mase Retirement Announcement (1999))
    • Mase Retirement Announ...
    (CamRon MTV Interview (Never Before Seen))
    • CamRon MTV Interview (...
    (Cam'ron - Horse and Carriage Live)
    • Cam'ron - Horse and Ca...
    (Mase Retirement Announcement On Funkmaster Flex Show (1999))
    • Mase Retirement Announ...
    (Mase - Rap City Freestyle (BET))
    • Mase - Rap City Freest...
    (Mase on VIBE)
    • Mase on VIBE
    Link to music used:
    (Brandy ft Mase Top Of The World instrumental)
    • Brandy ft Mase Top ...
    (Cam'ron Featuring Mase - Horse & Carriage [Instrumental])
    • Cam'ron Featuring Mase...
    (Mase - "All I Ever Wanted" instrumental)
    • Mase - "All I Ever Wan...
    (Mase - Welcome Back (Instrumental))
    • Mase - Welcome Back (I...
    (Mase - Breathe, Stretch, Shake (Instrumental))
    • Mase - Breathe, Stretc...
    (Mase - The Oracle Instrumental)
    • Mase - The Oracle Inst...
    (The Diplomats - If Only You Believe (Instrumental))
    • The Diplomats - If Onl...
    (The Heatmakerz - You Oughta Know instrumental)
    • Charlemagne - You Ough...

Комментарии • 806

  • @parkerjarmon7447
    @parkerjarmon7447 11 месяцев назад +862

    Would be crazy if these dudes squashed their beef and started the best sports show ever to be dropped. They’d be dope at it

    • @jmoney25240
      @jmoney25240 11 месяцев назад +49

      True I wonder what could have been

    • @cookmania3465
      @cookmania3465 11 месяцев назад +106

      One can dream. I bet they would pick a lovely black woman to moderate the show

    • @JoeKingNotJoeKing
      @JoeKingNotJoeKing 11 месяцев назад +123

      😂 Y’all sound Crazy that would never never happen 🤡😂

    • @aikmanthegreat8
      @aikmanthegreat8 11 месяцев назад +8

      😂😂😂

    • @BLee09
      @BLee09 11 месяцев назад +122

      Why would they do that? They don't even talk about sports. What's next, they're gonna bring OJ on as a recurring guest?

  • @A9POLO
    @A9POLO 3 года назад +12

    SDE is a classic

  • @SatansGreatestSoldier
    @SatansGreatestSoldier 3 года назад +3

    4:52 my mans Mase was looking crazy back then. 😅🤣

  • @aidentorgerson3010
    @aidentorgerson3010 3 года назад

    Props from Canada bro

  • @theboundD1
    @theboundD1 Год назад +1

    Having a baldy in HS is wild 😂

  • @DerwinDaDestroyer
    @DerwinDaDestroyer 2 года назад

    Jealous guys was definitely my fav song of Mase...
    Puffy: Just let it beeeeeeeee.. (inhales) eeeeeeeeeeee

  • @smonelh
    @smonelh 3 года назад

    I went to his church in Atlanta. It was extra crowded too 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @ErickJohnson-rz5lg
    @ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад +2

    Killa season!!!!! Baby

  • @killaviking7786
    @killaviking7786 3 года назад +1

    Cam the 🐐 in MTL 🇨🇦

  • @YouTube_Disciple_YTD_Demon
    @YouTube_Disciple_YTD_Demon 2 года назад +70

    It’s funny how Cam used that basketball game footage for his movie and the next scene afterwards it said “the next day” and it shows us a 33 year old Camron 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

  • @jayden.6
    @jayden.6 3 года назад +103

    i’ll never forgive Ma$e for bending the brim of his hat like that

    • @jmack4869
      @jmack4869 3 года назад +4

      😂😂

    • @samgunz1
      @samgunz1 3 года назад +2

      🤣🤣

    • @vodginator
      @vodginator 3 года назад +10

      😂 He was young though or maybe torn between being a pastor and a cyclist

    • @christflow9770
      @christflow9770 2 года назад

      😭

  • @freekyreek404
    @freekyreek404 10 месяцев назад +37

    Just for clarity. Although Cam's, "Purple Haze" album didn't do well on the charts, it was a mf'n BANGER in the streets. Up North AND Down South was bumping "Purple Haze."

    • @patrickbaklava7297
      @patrickbaklava7297 2 месяца назад

      Same with killa season even tho I think it's more of a mixtape

  • @jarrinearthman6171
    @jarrinearthman6171 3 года назад +209

    Cam misses the buzzer shot...This is the moment the beef started Iol

    • @cloutcancun
      @cloutcancun  3 года назад +8

      LOL

    • @brandonf.8360
      @brandonf.8360 3 года назад +21

      Right like no one saw "Killa Season"

    • @jamalmack1076
      @jamalmack1076 3 года назад +17

      😂😂😂😂😂MASE WAS WIDE OPEN ON THE RIGHT WING..HAHA

    • @ryanr20091
      @ryanr20091 3 года назад +8

      @@cloutcancun mase is really underrated and saved bad boy after big passed he was that dude in 97 and his album was a classic slept on . there was a time when i was playing his shit more than big as blasphemous as it sounds

    • @jayb5945
      @jayb5945 3 года назад +4

      Would have been the easiest game winner of all time 😂

  • @dcint6692
    @dcint6692 Год назад +25

    It kinda worked in the long run. Cam really made a name for himself. Cam woulda been the Memphis Bleek of Bad Boy. Not takin anything from bleek cuz hes nice but it worked out cuz Cam was big in 2000s he really branched off to become his own star very respectfully. Dipset was a movement. After all these years they have a podcast nd very successful in their own rights. Shout out to killa nd murda. "IT IS WAT IT IS". "PINKHORSEPOWER"

  • @DivineNiiji
    @DivineNiiji 3 года назад +38

    Mase one of the goats in just a small period of time. If he didn’t retire he would be a on a different pedestal

    • @HajLand
      @HajLand 6 месяцев назад

      A diddy pedestal 😂😂

    • @DivineNiiji
      @DivineNiiji 6 месяцев назад

      @@HajLand 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @GRANDPRIXDUVAL
    @GRANDPRIXDUVAL 3 года назад +213

    Cam later admitted in his older age he didn’t know the music business that well. He took mase charging him personal when mase was charging the LABEL against the budget. Cam was wrong. You supposed to let your friend get that bag it wasn’t going to effect cam at all.

    • @cappag3
      @cappag3 3 года назад +22

      He was even gonna split it with him he said! And it was made share

    • @atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557
      @atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557 3 года назад +20

      LOL, the budget comes out of the artists pocket man. Every little expense comes out of the artists pocket. Even if you use the phone at a label office or a dinner with the label execs. You have to pay for everything in the end.

    • @RapRants
      @RapRants 2 года назад +13

      @@atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557 I think everybody knows that. If Mase was in the video, it probably would’ve helped the record sell more and make up for the budget loss too.

    • @atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557
      @atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557 2 года назад +1

      @@RapRants I don`t think the guy in the original comment knew. I was just correcting his statement. But i agree with what you said about i might have boosted the sales.

    • @alialghamdi7153
      @alialghamdi7153 2 года назад

      @@atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557 bingo. It's basically a loan and you have to pay for it back. It's like saying I'll give you 10$ and you give it back with the other hand, what's the point?

  • @tuckerjones5899
    @tuckerjones5899 3 года назад +162

    Ma$e was huge in the late 90's he was one of the first big mainstream rappers and i feel like he started the whole mono tone flow

    • @playablue
      @playablue 3 года назад +9

      He also brang barz
      Effing BARRRRZ

    • @crazyasianppl
      @crazyasianppl 2 года назад

      GIVING FLOWERS TO MASE: ruclips.net/video/tYu5kG5v_9Y/видео.html

    • @ddt928
      @ddt928 2 года назад +16

      Guru

    • @oldphilly2159
      @oldphilly2159 2 года назад +8

      Rakim allah

    • @wessteinfeld3337
      @wessteinfeld3337 2 года назад

      Shutup

  • @xavcuttinoakatheinspiratio4353
    @xavcuttinoakatheinspiratio4353 9 месяцев назад +16

    The only thing I’m going to say is the moral of this whole story is that these brothers squashed that beef and are out here conquering the world together again. #harlem #harlemworld #dipset #eighthaveboyz

  • @QuBaTiOn
    @QuBaTiOn 3 года назад +28

    Mase was definitely riding high & I actually felt some type of way when he wasn't in the horse & carriage video. It would've definitely sold more of Cam's album. I straight up recorded it & recorded over that VHS jawn! Lol

  • @KingstonTV334
    @KingstonTV334 3 года назад +150

    "God Forgive Jimmy" only the elite know what I'm talking about

    • @8mile12345
      @8mile12345 3 года назад +46

      “Is that You Betha ! I Know Ya Don’t Play With Us Son...”
      Mase - “I Know You Too Sirrr” ..🤣🤣
      Literally taught Jim how to rap it’s pathetic 🥱

    • @cloutcancun
      @cloutcancun  3 года назад +14

      That had me dying i'm not gonna lie hahah 2004

    • @uncleice4929
      @uncleice4929 3 года назад +7

      Epic radio beef

    • @ParasailOH
      @ParasailOH 3 года назад +19

      Jimmy” I gotta meeting downtown. I’ll be in the area. You better have them boys with badges with you cause I will do it to you DUKE” 😂😂😂

    • @abovetheclout
      @abovetheclout 3 года назад +8

      @@ParasailOH don’t play goonie goo goo

  • @steviecritiquenewby7874
    @steviecritiquenewby7874 3 года назад +100

    Give Mason Betha some credit to the public. Mase put Cam on to his first rap deal 💯💲

  • @JerzredCBS
    @JerzredCBS 2 года назад +35

    I still say to this day that Cam's S.D.E. Album was slept on pretty heavy. That jawn "Where I'm From" is straight 🔥 🔥🔥 his wordplay on that was outta this world 💯💯💯

    • @JECZ23
      @JECZ23 11 месяцев назад +3

      S.D.E. is my fav album by Cam

    • @FloridaGeorgia
      @FloridaGeorgia 9 месяцев назад +3

      I liked "Let Me Know"

  • @CMO1061
    @CMO1061 3 года назад +31

    😂😂😂 “that was the moment the beef started”
    Shit had my ears perked up 😂😂🤘

  • @fahblizza
    @fahblizza 3 года назад +210

    In my opinion...Ma$e is the most underrated New York MC ever. He literally influenced alot of your favorite rappers.

    • @DarkPhoenix203Ct
      @DarkPhoenix203Ct 3 года назад +16

      Nah, that spot belongs to Big L. L would eat mase alive and that's a fact

    • @cryptodweller2419
      @cryptodweller2419 3 года назад +7

      @@DarkPhoenix203Ct big facts mase cool and all that but Big L was unmatched and had everyone under his wing

    • @shawnjvojames96
      @shawnjvojames96 3 года назад +7

      @@DarkPhoenix203Ct neither one are underrated .

    • @flyja33
      @flyja33 3 года назад +2

      I do not agree with this

    • @bosshova23
      @bosshova23 3 года назад +11

      @@cryptodweller2419 Did y'all even read his message.... He said he influenced a lot of favor of Your favorite rappers.... Which is the truth Drake one Kanye West two etc they all have said it.... He didn't even say anything against Big L

  • @truthhurts3305
    @truthhurts3305 3 года назад +75

    I was only a kid back in 1997 and I remember how *BIG* Ma$e was, I didn't even know who Cam was then, I mean you couldn't go anywhere without hearing a Ma$e song on the radio, hell, I remember even at a friend's birthday party when they played a Ma$e song, ALL the kids went crazy and rushed to the dance floor. I think Ma$e deserves a LOT more credit for his role in Bad boy at the time because people seem to have an issue with him being a Pastor and returning back to rap but from 96 to 99 Mase WAS that dude.

    • @SneakerFetish420
      @SneakerFetish420 3 года назад +4

      Mase was nice Harlem world had so many good tracks and I’m not talking about the singles and then next album double up was fire sadly after that he quit rapping and when he returned it was never the same but that track he dropped a couple years back dissing cam was dope

    • @shakagod3779
      @shakagod3779 2 года назад +2

      I agree. Few other MC,s during those years you mentioned were hotter and shone as bright as Mase did.
      That's why I cannot agree that he was underated. Those who were old enough to remember those days know.

    • @duranmoodley3622
      @duranmoodley3622 2 года назад +1

      I couldn't agree more, even to this day I still bump Mase in my car

  • @twinkles2ya
    @twinkles2ya 3 года назад +97

    This beef was so unnecessarily long. A 20 year beef stemming from problems in their teenage years. It’s quite sad that Mase’s career is tarnished by this feud when he only responded a few years ago

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 года назад

      It's sad cause Cam appeared on stage with lots of enemies he had in the industry. The Cam event at the Apollo this month should have been a reunion....Harlem would have had social media and the nation buzzing still in 2022

    • @will4us
      @will4us Год назад +16

      Mase career solid and was cut short cause of puff bad boy cheating mase out of money by telling mase touring was a promotion run when really he was the headliner from day 1

    • @quincyfellows2636
      @quincyfellows2636 10 месяцев назад

      Literally starts the video off saying “this, is gunna be a long one” then your comment is one of the first I see 😂

    • @fly3xzistence
      @fly3xzistence 9 месяцев назад +1

      I believe Jim kept refueling the flame and in Cam ear

  • @tyshamelody8558
    @tyshamelody8558 3 года назад +21

    Imo Mase was still obligated to bad boy. He found a loop hole and switched to the church whatever profit he made Diddy couldn’t touch but if he were to make actual songs making revenue Puff would be owed a percentage. Do that make sense or am I reaching 🤷🏿‍♀️

    • @haydotzero3372
      @haydotzero3372 2 года назад

      Honestly, I think it was both situations. The baby Maine and Bad boy records. Him moving to Atlanta will mainly be due to Maine while him going over to religion is due to Diddy (snake)

    • @OakTownBizz-zm8rx
      @OakTownBizz-zm8rx Год назад

      No lie fa sho

    • @indigoGoddess7
      @indigoGoddess7 9 месяцев назад

      You making sense! I think so too.

    • @jeremyblackwater439
      @jeremyblackwater439 9 месяцев назад

      My wife said that to me the other day 🤔 makes sense

  • @Du3Lality
    @Du3Lality 3 года назад +61

    This was a dope video, enjoyed this one. Was in my early teens when Mase blew up, that era of hip hop was crazy!! Big, Lox, Hov, Nas, Mobb Deep, X..the list goes on!

    • @joeblack11855
      @joeblack11855 3 года назад +6

      Big Pun Big L Nore Outkast just to name a few

    • @poppin2296
      @poppin2296 3 года назад +1

      @@joeblack11855 Lil Kim Mobb deep Foxy, Wu tang music was so dope back then

    • @crazyasianppl
      @crazyasianppl 2 года назад

      GIVING FLOWERS TO MASE: ruclips.net/video/tYu5kG5v_9Y/видео.html

  • @GreenHypnotic
    @GreenHypnotic 3 года назад +56

    "Harlem on the rise, you don’t want no problem with these guys"

    • @8mile12345
      @8mile12345 3 года назад +9

      “I mean if niggas wanna act we could Act..we could act”...”whatever you do..we could do it better” 🌍

    • @GreenHypnotic
      @GreenHypnotic 3 года назад +2

      @@8mile12345 that's my sh!t right there

    • @antontoshaboy8264
      @antontoshaboy8264 3 года назад

      Killa Cam aka Vanilla cam fam lmao

    • @gmelltalk4979
      @gmelltalk4979 3 года назад

      @@8mile12345 you in this pic

    • @CorleoneWYO
      @CorleoneWYO 3 года назад +4

      M A $ E & if u ever out tryna find me ...

  • @seanq9884
    @seanq9884 3 года назад +80

    Cam is one of my fav rappers but he's super ungrateful after all the stuff Mase did for him smh. Everybody in Dipset should be grateful for what Mase did.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 2 года назад

      He gave cam his contract and hit horse and carriage and taught Jimmy to Rap. Idiots.

    • @koollee
      @koollee 2 года назад +5

      Cam 1 of my favs too and I hear what u sayin but i say they went back in forth as far as doin for each other (if this video is of actual facts) .... Pretty sad to see bro's split this way but its like family splits up.
      Cam shared clothes with Mase when they were young.. Mase helped Cam out when he had college trouble, linked him to BIG and UN.. gave him 5000$ to write one of 5 songs for 30,000$ .. Cam supposedly didnt want to pay Mase for bein on Horse and Carriage track so Mase didnt appear in the video or support Cams debut so Cam didnt pop off like they wanted.
      So the 2 started keepin it kinda fake.
      Mase got caught smashin other dudes baby moms.. calls Cam and only gives him 100$
      Can u see how they started sharing less and less with each other.
      It was a low key power struggle as they went from poor to riches.
      I somehow did feel wierd when Mase retired to become a minister and said he wouldnt rap, produce or run a rap label ever again.
      I didnt believe that and sure enough.. he came back and would hate to admit he got thirsty.
      Not fully picking sides but on that 1 opinion of Cam i choose his side. Mase playin with God by comin back to rap about ngs, b*tches and violence.. That there is some bullshht and the reason the public never really took Mase back. Thas som fake shht.
      Cam outsmarted Mase if u ask me. He threw out dis tracks for bait.. Mase eventually took the bait and made dis tracks and talked real foul.
      A true Christian and Mase knows.. the bible says If someone smites u on 1 cheek, turn and let them smite u on the other cheek.
      Cam outsmarted Mase and kept his style and life more on the 100 side (tho none of us are perfect.

    • @theitfactorjameswheezer2852
      @theitfactorjameswheezer2852 2 года назад +13

      @@koollee your paragraph was a whole lotta nothing

    • @doriscooper1556
      @doriscooper1556 2 года назад +6

      @@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 right 🥱

    • @Nemesio609
      @Nemesio609 2 года назад +2

      Mase ain't real and I'm from Harlem cam uses to feed buy clothing and protect mase he was known as mase protection mase got big and shifted on cam n them and cam wrote various bars on Harlem world

  • @jimmyhooks
    @jimmyhooks 3 года назад +15

    14:01 Mase looks like a mixture of Cassidy & Lil Yatchy 😂😭

  • @bertoh5544
    @bertoh5544 3 года назад +19

    CHILDREN OF THE CORNER goes full spin. Blessed to have it in my collection. I play it right after Roc Marciano Knockout blows 1,2,3
    Real hiphop heads know!!!

  • @wrldonwill
    @wrldonwill 3 года назад +17

    4:56 That MA$E face could be a meme. 🤣

    • @OnAPlain88
      @OnAPlain88 2 года назад +4

      WHY HE LOOKIN LIKE THAT??
      LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣

    • @wrldonwill
      @wrldonwill 2 года назад +3

      @@OnAPlain88 He in the zone,. . 😂😂

    • @TH-cq7bj
      @TH-cq7bj 3 месяца назад

      Crazy

  • @afropowa1598
    @afropowa1598 2 года назад +6

    The Horse & Carriage video had: Canibus, Wyclef Jean, Silkk the Shocker & Nore = who were all really big back then. So, Mase isn't really the problem for the album sales not being higher.

  • @dyzeinyourhouse1375
    @dyzeinyourhouse1375 3 года назад +30

    We need an hour long Big L video!

    • @BigLRestInPeace-ps9hi
      @BigLRestInPeace-ps9hi 3 года назад +1

      🔥

    • @DarkPhoenix203Ct
      @DarkPhoenix203Ct 3 года назад +7

      L IMO was the best rapper to come outta Harlem. If he never died he woulda changed the game for sure. I remember him flaming jay z on that freestyle they did together on that radio show. L was ahead of him time, he was so ahead of his time his parents ain't even met yet

    • @Maddspyder
      @Maddspyder 3 года назад +2

      Man I’m form La. but I remember the Big Picture coming out and that was one of the cds I picked up at the time. I listened to that joint front to back. I was damn this dude is nice. I tried to find anything I could get my hands on by L. If he didn’t die, I truly think he would be up there with Jay and Nas.

    • @dyzeinyourhouse1375
      @dyzeinyourhouse1375 3 года назад

      @@Maddspyder that’s BIG FACTS.

    • @Phoenix-Rising4
      @Phoenix-Rising4 3 года назад

      Definitely

  • @keybowden5646
    @keybowden5646 3 года назад +9

    I remember being a toddler tryna kount the sparks in the fire on the kover art of " Confessions of Fire" idk why but the whole kover art game back then was so intriguing to me.

  • @Osarogie112258
    @Osarogie112258 3 года назад +31

    Ma$e's comeback was disappointing. Had a nice start but blew it with him going to G-Unit and a partially decent/mostly bland album.

    • @indigoGoddess7
      @indigoGoddess7 9 месяцев назад

      He never signed with G Unit. 50 said diddler was overcharging to take Mase outta the contract.

    • @Osarogie112258
      @Osarogie112258 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@indigoGoddess7 That is true. I never said he signed, but still his switch up and collaborating with the Unit out if left field was a bad look.

    • @AMPFIELDVISION
      @AMPFIELDVISION 9 месяцев назад

      Coming back out the blue and getting a chance on Signing with the #1 rap label in the world at the time is "blowing it"?? Anything 50 touched back then turned to Gold & Platinum.

  • @MrDalegend13
    @MrDalegend13 3 года назад +8

    If that's why mase left that don't make him soft that make him smart

  • @dalmaingrant2470
    @dalmaingrant2470 2 года назад +5

    Lot of people didn't know Mase signed a movie deal with Will Smith movie company but the boy was lazy and didn't want to take acting classes he thought his celebrity status and knowing people in Hollywood was enough to land him movie roles

  • @R6W2
    @R6W2 Год назад +2

    glad shit is squashed , mfs shitting on Jordan Poole was amazing

  • @waltersstreet
    @waltersstreet Год назад +2

    Mas has always been ppbbbbbbbbbbbbtt. I didn't know he grew up poor. That's dope that he came up.

  • @ayaction
    @ayaction Год назад +8

    At least Cam and Mase are friends again currently. They even have one of the best podcasts together today.

  • @EyeCue23
    @EyeCue23 2 года назад +4

    Hell yeah Cam was a 🏀 baller!! Him and Mase used to play against Mike Vick, Allen Iverson, Mauburry, and a few other cats!!

  • @thusano2
    @thusano2 3 года назад +15

    The first clips of this video made me so nostalgic, I had to pause and go watch all 2 hours of Killa season, and then come back lol.

    • @therealsyxx
      @therealsyxx 3 года назад +3

      Facts I was looking at the old shots having memories .

  • @hardhitter1016
    @hardhitter1016 3 года назад +10

    4:52 mase had the debo eyes

  • @Lorrddyyy
    @Lorrddyyy 10 месяцев назад +2

    Mase is a good dude nd we do dumber stuff when we are younger glad they are cool again and making bank together cuz it should’ve been like that all along. It was Dipset all day growing up so I rode wit Cam growing up pause. Cam grew up a lot but he is still funny af

  • @GAMADEMARCUS
    @GAMADEMARCUS 3 года назад +28

    Mase not appearing in Cam’s ‘Horse & Carriage’ vid, didn’t effect his sales of Confessions. I think Cam not being able to follow up with a strong 2nd single effected sales. The second single was supposed to be ‘Pull It’ w/ DMX, but he couldn’t get clearance for the song

    • @bigniggey77
      @bigniggey77 3 года назад +9

      Mase not being in horse carriage was a difference between gold and platinum bro. Horse and carriage. Mase was the hook. Meaning the voice of the song. And he wasn’t in the video On the hit record of the album

    • @BrettShadow
      @BrettShadow 2 года назад +1

      Yep. Just said the same thing basically. Look at my comment, he just couldnt hanf with the fire

    • @BrettShadow
      @BrettShadow 2 года назад

      @@bigniggey77 Na man... It didn't have the fire samples. It didn't have that press play and ride time signatures and beats. And (check out my comment for my reasoningbehind this but) Cam just got put on the back row. He couldn't get in the line-up. And yeah it sucks if you are hitting .335 with 26 home runs and you are sitting on the bench because everyione else in the line-up is hitting over .450 with 40+

    • @OG_Poe_Sweet
      @OG_Poe_Sweet 2 года назад +5

      Disagree because horse and carriage was a hot single for sure back then....we all wondered why he wont in the video....they was tight together

    • @GAMADEMARCUS
      @GAMADEMARCUS 2 года назад

      @@OG_Poe_Sweet back then you had to have a strong follow up single, and video, to keep the momentum of an album going. By the time Confessions Of Fire dropped, horse and carriage had already played out, and the only other video he dropped for the album, was the Horse & Carrige rmx w/ Charlie B, and that was way after the album released. If he could've gotten that DMX song cleared, his sales would've been great for that album run. Remember, this was the same Summer, as when 'It's Dark, And Hell Is Hot' dropped.

  • @Lilbadtrinibih
    @Lilbadtrinibih 10 месяцев назад +2

    Black men need to watch cam and mase and follow suit !!! I’m tired of seeing RIP when we can outcomes like how these men handled it !! I’m super proud of the both of them for squashing it and now making a big coin outta it

  • @Jennifer-vh5dy
    @Jennifer-vh5dy 3 года назад +7

    Honestly you did a good job on this video .. I'm the biggest Mase fan probably in the galaxy. I feel and have always felt like cam was a hater . Mase did what he could to put him on and help him out but when it came down to it Cam didn't do the same for him.. of course I knew about the Baby Maine situation but again what dose that have to do with Cam?? And as a friend if your homie calls you like yooo I'm in a jam ima need your help then throws you a hunndo , are you really gonna complain.. like for my friend ima come threw for free especially after you bust me down on deals when you didn't have to.. idk regardless I'm Team Ma$e .. Cam is whack 😒 I always said if they had a battle mase would definitely win .. 🏆

    • @AMPFIELDVISION
      @AMPFIELDVISION 9 месяцев назад +1

      To be a big Ma$e fan, you can't be a a Cam hater, that don't go together. Ma$e my favorite rapper and been my fav forever, when he wasn't rapping, I took to Cam, Harlem!

  • @djtimspaceking8306
    @djtimspaceking8306 3 года назад +4

    Jay z is hating on Mase first album successful and Jay z first album was not successful it was because of girl that thing was messing with

  • @SB41115
    @SB41115 3 года назад +11

    This about to be straight flames 🤌🏾

  • @lgold5988
    @lgold5988 3 года назад +6

    legendary story, thank you, you got a new subscriber
    edit: ill be waiting for the Mase Vs Jay Z story

  • @ErickJohnson-rz5lg
    @ErickJohnson-rz5lg 3 года назад +8

    15 year anniversary of Killa season

  • @roknkawk
    @roknkawk 3 года назад +6

    Big L was so 🔥🔥

  • @user-gt7dt4bb9f
    @user-gt7dt4bb9f 2 года назад +2

    So he basically admitted that Mase put him on🤷‍♂️no matter what Mase said or if how funny he was acting...he should not say one negative thing about that man because he's the reason for cam living a good life and being able to support his family..I wouldn't give a damn if Mase was acting funny or didn't want to talk to me again 😆thanks for introducing me to big which led to me making future moves for me and my family

  • @leestens419
    @leestens419 2 года назад +63

    when mase said "ain't no unity, and no children of the corn, ain't no you and me", I felt that in my soul...I don't think some people realize how deep mase and cam go

  • @richroach58
    @richroach58 10 месяцев назад +3

    I’m from Nashville but when I was in high school and everyone was on the crunk vibe, I was bumping the NY rappers. I named my son after Camron

  • @lovetronlawrence2482
    @lovetronlawrence2482 3 года назад +5

    These so called street tough dudes always pick the most non-violent non-threatening person to "beef" with.

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 3 года назад +1

      Facts and remember in the late 90s Jimmy became Blood and put the battery in Cams back to go back to the streets and rap at same time

  • @KeeTv2023
    @KeeTv2023 3 года назад +5

    3:25 you aint shit 😂😂😂😂 I was like "OH" U got me good 😂😂😂 8/3/21 #LeoSeason

  • @jeffreyanthony5652
    @jeffreyanthony5652 3 года назад +17

    I was soupppped when mase came back and than was with g-unit… everyone loves rick ross… he was a correctional officer? All his rap is about selling drugs, but was an officer? Whats the difference. Mase is a beast period!

    • @8mile12345
      @8mile12345 3 года назад +1

      Can’t front he isn’t in my Top 15 or 20 of all time but last maybe 4-5 years I’ve started to gain more respect for Ross’s lyricism & actually respect him as 1...still don’t change the fact he was a Fed ..Mase though actually bred a lot of personalities/style in Rap you see even till today 👌🏼

    • @stacks_968
      @stacks_968 3 года назад +1

      You're not from where he's from so you don't know why he was CO or who he was connected with

    • @VickHushpuppy215
      @VickHushpuppy215 3 года назад +1

      @@stacks_968 exactly I’m at Ross crib in my avi at the same hoes video shoot I was told that was a play for him to assist da homies under an indictment at da time he didn’t have felonies just came back from playing football was perfect for the position when you in it wit a real family sometimes you gotta do things 💯

  • @varsityjacketsuk7948
    @varsityjacketsuk7948 3 года назад +6

    Looking forward to this... soon 100k subs for ya pal 👍👌

  • @steve-ie6ju
    @steve-ie6ju 3 года назад +7

    Ma$e also appeared on the songs We Got It and F*** You from Cam'ron's album Confessions Of Fire

    • @cloutcancun
      @cloutcancun  3 года назад

      100%. Idk why they didn't put him on the official tracklist on the back of the CD for those songs

    • @steve-ie6ju
      @steve-ie6ju 3 года назад

      @@cloutcancun They did for We Got It but not for the other one. Guess cause it was more like an interlude

    • @cloutcancun
      @cloutcancun  3 года назад

      @@steve-ie6ju That is true

    • @beezlebub7847
      @beezlebub7847 3 года назад +1

      Bro i loved Confessions of fire🔥🙌🏽

    • @Jac735
      @Jac735 2 года назад

      @@beezlebub7847 that was one of his best albums in my opinion overrated I liked his style style better than his newer one

  • @HARLEMHEFNER
    @HARLEMHEFNER 3 года назад +3

    Some of this stuff is true alot is false. First and foremost his name wasn't baby Maine. His name was baby j
    " jealous guys" was never about baby J , mase and baby J beef didn't happen until 1999. F.Y.I I was around for all the beef I know all them personally

  • @haroldgarner9069
    @haroldgarner9069 3 года назад +1

    Ma$e had the money and bought the bodies. I had the guns, so I fought the bodies. Cam was spitting. Yet, Ma$e killed it on Same Niggaz

  • @arrondigital3089
    @arrondigital3089 3 года назад +43

    They Taught us to Hate each other but we must break the cycle!

    • @THEREALSHOTIME23
      @THEREALSHOTIME23 3 года назад +1

      They should had thought y’all how to spell also 😂

    • @RobD-jq7ry
      @RobD-jq7ry 2 года назад

      Hate is a natural tendency. No teaching needed.

    • @arrondigital3089
      @arrondigital3089 2 года назад +1

      @@THEREALSHOTIME23 I know its hard to deal with being Small, I actually date White Women so they are telling everything about Why the Men hate us! 😭

    • @ianlulu
      @ianlulu Год назад +2

      @@THEREALSHOTIME23 you dont know how to spell either lmao

    • @THEREALSHOTIME23
      @THEREALSHOTIME23 Год назад

      @@ianlulu I spell like y’all. Y’all know what I mean. Sad group of people

  • @3hristopher
    @3hristopher Год назад +3

    There new show is hilarious great watch

  • @acidmack1041
    @acidmack1041 3 года назад +18

    Mase was huge after BIG died. Im from the UK and Mase was big over here too, Puffy & Mase was probably more well known than Puffy & BIG in the mainstream. Cam was never big over here apart from the Hey Ma record. Mase was international

    • @jamalmack1076
      @jamalmack1076 3 года назад +4

      YOU CAPPN DIPSET WAS BIG IN THE UK..THEY ACTUALLY WAS CREATING A LABEL OUT THERE

    • @jamalmack1076
      @jamalmack1076 3 года назад +1

      @Ni99er stain GETTING READY TO GO ON TOUR WUT THE LOX IN SEPTEMBER FOO

    • @twinkles2ya
      @twinkles2ya 3 года назад +5

      @@jamalmack1076 dipset was big here but not as big as puffy and mase my guy

    • @jamalmack1076
      @jamalmack1076 3 года назад

      @@twinkles2ya DID I SAY THEY WERE ?

    • @twinkles2ya
      @twinkles2ya 3 года назад +2

      @@jamalmack1076 then why did you respond to the first comment with “you cappin” they also didn’t mention anything about dipset and their status in the UK. Where was the cap?

  • @ReynoldsSelek
    @ReynoldsSelek 11 месяцев назад +1

    Son you spoke about a bunch of non sense for no reason. Get to the content

  • @bigky4234
    @bigky4234 11 месяцев назад +2

    Its crazy to hear the amount of albums they were selling. 226k in the 1st week. Sheesh

  • @williamgouch6240
    @williamgouch6240 3 года назад +20

    Can’t lie mase have a brazy catalog ✌️ 💯

    • @Bsfnelz20
      @Bsfnelz20 3 года назад +6

      So you replace the c in crazy with a b making it brazy because I'm guessing you want to be a blood but if you're going to do that replace the c in can't and in catalog also so it should look like this Ban't and batalog I just don't understand why boys wanna be WANGSTERS SO BAD BUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO DO THE JAIL TIME THEY START CRYING LIKE LITTLE GIRLS

    • @xColber
      @xColber 3 года назад

      @@Bsfnelz20 🤣🤣

    • @j2323j
      @j2323j 3 года назад

      No

    • @itsok215
      @itsok215 3 года назад

      @@Bsfnelz20 😂😂

  • @CHANEL_D_QUEEN
    @CHANEL_D_QUEEN 3 года назад +5

    Horse & Carriage🔥🎼

  • @KingTay-xg4mi
    @KingTay-xg4mi 10 месяцев назад +1

    Who would have thought these 2 would one day have a sports ahow with OJ Simpson as a recurring guest thats wild yo very awesome

  • @dopeyray927
    @dopeyray927 3 года назад +36

    He doesn’t literally have his name tatted on him. Mase was referring to the “Harlem World” tat Cam has. Mase coined that phrase and that’s what people called him.

    • @sharieffbrann3872
      @sharieffbrann3872 3 года назад +5

      Harlem world was the rap group or gang they both was in

    • @lawrencebrooks3215
      @lawrencebrooks3215 3 года назад +5

      No Harlem world was coined by ma$e but it was a club or theater that was name harlem world in harlem

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 года назад +1

      Facts...only Mase,Cam and Cardan got that same tattoo

  • @CaliforniaTribalChief
    @CaliforniaTribalChief 2 года назад +5

    I've been saying for awhile now that we need a Diplomats Biopic. It should include Mase, Biggie, Big L, Dame Dash, and any other people who were key figures during Dipsets rise to fame in the rap game.

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 года назад +2

      That would be so dope...BET or even Showtime,fresh off the Wu Tang biopic, could do it

  • @charlita25
    @charlita25 Год назад +2

    I feel like Mase's come back on gunit is just art. The average person don't know how to listen to hip hop. It's just poetry over beats 🎶 #entertainment

  • @KevinMcClain13
    @KevinMcClain13 11 месяцев назад +1

    Since when did u have to pay ya man’s to pull when it’s beef 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @reyp8389
    @reyp8389 3 года назад +4

    Great video... Great to see the youth do homework n even more so appreciate it...Jay-Z n mase is good beef too

  • @beezlebub7847
    @beezlebub7847 3 года назад +12

    Camron has had beef with Mase since 1997, he kicked Styles P during the versus. He’s the definition of Petty😂😭

  • @JUGGFACE
    @JUGGFACE 3 года назад +4

    Mase started a war in Harlem and left for everyone else to fend for his problems simple

    • @janiesemahoney8250
      @janiesemahoney8250 3 года назад +1

      Thank you all these lames talking don’t know shit about the real beef. If it wasn’t for cam made would have been dead.

  • @kevinchang3506
    @kevinchang3506 3 года назад +19

    your content is well-made and awesome, can’t wait to see what the future holds for you!

  • @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e
    @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remember the Mase/G-Unit era, and *it was* confusing asF 🤣🤣🤣
    Like how this Brother gonna go back to the _Murder Mase_ persona after all that holy ish?
    It worked though 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @JBurnz001
    @JBurnz001 2 года назад +1

    Mase Oracle was cool but it was a lot false shit on there. Truth is mase only good in Harlem kuz them folk who was looking for him aren’t around no more

  • @jovan.mihailovic
    @jovan.mihailovic Год назад +3

    Such a dope video!!!
    You put a lot of effort into this video, appreciate it !
    Thanks for this!
    Keep 'em comin' (pause 😁) 💪🏿💪🏿

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme 3 года назад +2

    12:18 - London check in. Everybody knew Ma$e here. Only hip hop heads knew Cam. At that time Hip hop didn't get popular play. Diddy changed that with BIG raising general interest but then PAC took it next level. Their 2 deaths & "missing you" made them household names among under 35s and Harlem World hit hard in places where hip hop wasn't known. "Feel so good" was super pop and a favourite on music tv channels.
    TATQ MA$E on the video with his fun unthreatening sellable approach would have made Horse & Carriage 1000 times more impactful.
    I didn't see the video until You Tube, we relied on mixtapes & pirate radio for the latest US stuff and that had an extremely limited reach.

  • @RedRanger_
    @RedRanger_ 3 года назад +15

    Mase got tired of Cam dissing him unnecessarily for 15 years straight and fired back and Cam hasn’t been the same since November 2017 🤧

    • @beezlebub7847
      @beezlebub7847 3 года назад

      15yrs?……they’re beef goes back to 1997

    • @RedRanger_
      @RedRanger_ 3 года назад +2

      @@beezlebub7847 Cam started mentioning him back in ‘02

  • @KingNimrod910
    @KingNimrod910 Год назад +2

    Mase had the shiesty mask in 2017

  • @munecamccoy
    @munecamccoy 2 года назад +1

    Mase is ok but, Cam acts like his stuff don't stink and he's not even that good of a rapper.

  • @jameshorton6410
    @jameshorton6410 2 года назад +2

    It's sad that if you lived to be 30 years old and you was a rapper in the 90"s then you was an OLD TRIPLE G to live that long, too many way too many young talented brothers got smoked over some BS, wich is still going on even today, there's some that murder the next man because of jealousy ,some probably more than others got smoked over a female,the rest died over CLOUT, RIP to all them REAL ONES, and all those sad crying mom's who had to either bury their son or see him at visio for rest of life at prison, NO PARENTS SHOULD BURY THEIR CHILDREN!!!!

  • @bosshova23
    @bosshova23 3 года назад +1

    Let's be clear all your young heads need to stop sleeping on MASE! Mase was that dude back in the day! And if you listen to any of his peers, they'll tell you he was nice. And a whole episode about horse and carriage song... That was all about Cam not knowing the business. Mase I just did the 357 video running around New York for free. And as your man and knowing the business Mase... Was telling Cam get the dough from the label because there's a budget for it so they have to pay for this stuff... Even said he was split it with him.

  • @alleonecrazywatchtv4006
    @alleonecrazywatchtv4006 11 месяцев назад +4

    You did a good job man!!! Very accurate documentation!!!

  • @jcc7247
    @jcc7247 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ayyyyeoooo, "this might be a long one" is crazy on the intro

  • @THEREALSHOTIME23
    @THEREALSHOTIME23 3 года назад +2

    How you know this story where u there 😂

  • @Jessblaze610
    @Jessblaze610 3 года назад +3

    Can you do Fat Joe and Cuban link story behind the beef

  • @shawswervoo
    @shawswervoo Год назад +2

    Niggas gotta whole podcast now, it’s good that they settle their beef lol

  • @cpalmer0703
    @cpalmer0703 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm glad they squash their beef they making big money together with their sports show💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

  • @terryraxamorg.4380
    @terryraxamorg.4380 2 года назад +1

    First of all Killa first album "CONFESSIONS OF FIRE" is a hip hop classic 💯. I'm from the same blok as Cam but when that album dropped I was living in the Bronx and most mfs didn't see his face before bc Clue used to put up a ? Mark and it'll say an artist name. Can ron name and face wasn't known to many ppl. When that "CONFESSIONS OF FIRE" dropped , everybody n they moma knew Cam after. He was talking about eating poodles and all sorts of shit. Shanghai knights is one of my favorites and that song he did with Nore🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. Murda Ma$e n Killa Cam should've stayed together. When Killa kept Ma$e , lox , DMX all them around he was Poppin and him and Ma$e alone would've hit billboards heights definitely.

  • @flapdrol75
    @flapdrol75 2 года назад +2

    The oracle completely murdered everything that that camron dropped

  • @donneysimpson8536
    @donneysimpson8536 3 года назад +3

    Yep, Ma$e should have done that video. I remember that time and Ma$e was thee man.

    • @k2gees
      @k2gees 3 года назад +4

      I don’t think that was a problem. The problem was Cam didn’t know the business. They used Cam’s friendship to cut corners and get Mase to do work for free. So Mase is telling Cam if he doesn’t get the money, the label will allocate it somewhere else so it’s going in someone’s pocket. It may as well be theirs.

  • @TheNBAHistory
    @TheNBAHistory 10 месяцев назад +1

    The video starts at @2:00 .

  • @ohsballer
    @ohsballer 3 года назад +2

    Would’ve really liked to learn more about the Children of the Corn days. You kinda just glossed over that