Greatest battle ever! And it was manufactured Becuase “Gay Z” didn’t want any part of anyone other than Nas, who was out of his league but the platform fan base and strategy was genius at the height of the drama so he got his General, his capo, his right hand and second in command, actually rocafella’s best artist to go after one of the greatest in al quads jada! Gay Z was the one that benefited from all this factz! It was a chess move but at the same time, that’s bitch shit on Gay Z’s part! Shout out Beans and state prop as a whole
Beans & Kiss really are underrated, they're 2 of the best bar spitters ever, when it comes to spittin that pain, that real shit, that lyrical shit they top 10 off gp
This battle was like the undercard for the Jay/Nas battle. Unfortunately this got somewhat overshadowed. Jada was going at Jay on mixtapes because Jay was jumping on all the remixes of Jada's features stealing his shine. But I think at that point Jay put Beans up to going at Jada. Because Hov had his sights set on Nas and Prodigy. Its no way in hell Jay could try to handle Jadakiss too. So like you said, Beans used it as an opportunity to earn his stripes. And that Hot 97 freestyle session on Flex with state property is legendary!
"no way In. Hell"? NIGGA? JAY z was too big to handle Jada. That's why he just sent subs to dude And disrespected him by stealing his remixes lol That's what a boss does lol
Jay was on the ropes. After Prodigy dissed him on Quiet Storm. Only reason he survived Prodigy is because HNIC didn't get much backing and really didn't have radio friendly songs. Thats when Jay tried to end Nas and prodigy. I think Jada was more about him being like I got a team to back me against anyone.
As someone who watched that episode when it aired, tigger WAS NOT SCARED. Like you said he looked intrigued more than anything. This battle is from my era, I'm 35 so I remember this shit like it was yesterday. All the mixtapes fueled this shit. Shit back in those days mixtapes were huge. I remember mixtape shops opening up in every neighborhood. It was a sad day when the labels shut down the mixtape game, that shit changed hip hop and how we all rocked to the music coming out
Beans is my favorite rapper of all time. He is just something else man. He goes so in depth with his bars and you feel everything he says. Early 2000s was special. What a time in hip hop
It's so hard to call who won and that's what makes this battle so interesting. They both went in and their crews both had shots for each other as well that was crazy
@@cloutcancun exactly I never called a winner in that and by them coming out of it cool made it even harder to call cuz like I said they was evenly matched from skills to credibility and the fact both of there albums you could match up so to me it was the best battle but was overshadowed obviously by the Jay and Nas beef which was at the same time
I personally think depending on the situation it’s worse nowadays in the social media age. Especially in this era where people stay dissing dead people and then next thing you know they’re dead as well.
@@cloutcancun it’s much worse now it’s not even close. You can say what you want about the street rappers of this generation but you can’t call them fake, unfortunately.
Yea it’s a lot worse now, because it’s documented on a different level.. then you have young nxggas carrying military grade guns with drums/extendos sliding like it’s a sport. Back then it’s was more mysterious, and that brought forth a darker energy- but, there was a lot of front’n back then too, studio gangsters.
He lost this battle… That disco beat was wack and Siegel ate his food… Siegel kept rapping matter of fact the shit cut off and he was still rhyming lol…
Good documentary bro. I didn't want it to end. Takes me back to those days when hip hop was good. We don't have beefs like these anymore. Anyway I was siding with Jadakiss. I still think Jadakiss won. I do recognize that Beans got bars to though. I would never had admitted this then, but I admit it now. Beans had bars.
It was back and forth sheek louch said they was the only group that was getting on dblock nerves lyrically they say shit about what you wore what stay at
The battle started because Jay Z kept jumping on all the records that Kiss was featured on. Because Hov was the bigger artists that single got pushed instead. The tracks were Fiesta by R.Kelly the Mya Best of Me record and there was another one but I couldn't remember. Kiss wanted Hov but Beans saw it as a time to make a name for himself. Then we got this classic
That's why at the end of the wait a minute freestyle by styles p, he says " get off my man's dick and let him do his numbers " because of everything you just said indeed
This was a good video, but some context was left out probably because your younger than the beef or wasn’t focusing. Jay-Z was positioning himself to be at the top and was feeling pressure from all the hard spitters in rap/NYC like Nas, Prodigy, and Jadakiss. He started doing things behind the scenes as was said at the end of the video to stop people’s bags and gain higher superiority. Then he sent Bennie Siegel to fight his battle for him to gain higher position in the rap game. Jay-Z was really smart.
One of the greatest underrated rap beefs of all time. Jada and beans gave us some great lyrical content but tbh beans won this beef in my opinion 🤷🏽♂️
This beef Been brewing since 96 when jayz mase and kiss used to rhyme with big, and big called all of them nice, but when big died it was a all out war for the king of ny the lox teamed up with mase, jayz didn't like that at all so he started dissing mase and mase made a few disses back then dissapeared, so jayz did a song called reservoir dogs with the lox and styles dissed jayz on his whole verse, then styles dissed him again on a song called blackout, so jayz took a beat made for kiss by swizz and threw shots at kiss called jigga my nigga, so the lox spit a few verses over the same remixed beat, then jayz remixed mya and kiss song and took him off the r. Kelly song and made a video, then jayz formed a team, bleek and nas was going at it, and jayz kept throwing shots at kiss on put your hands up, then styles and kiss did a fiesta remix going at jayz, jayz then did takeover he then told bleek to step back and told beans and state property to get the lox out the game while he get nas and mobb deep out the game so it'll just be them but the plan totally backfired as to where the nas ethered jayz Cassidy humiliated freeway in a freestyle battle and beans fell off the map.
Yo I swear at first I didn't think styles wad sending shots at Jay at the time but then years later after the beef was done, I started listening to those same 2 songs again and said to myself I wonder If styles sending shots and then realized he was sending shots the whole time...but I think Jay sent shots back at LOX on that same blackout song too...I definitely knew about mase and Jay sending shots at each other as well...you know your hip hop history gss because I was never sure if LOX was sending shots on both songs til a few years after their beef
You got the beginning wrong it was Jadakiss vs jay-z cuz jay-z was remaking tracks on the songs Jadakiss was featured on like Fiesta wit r kelly and best of me wit Mya. So was Jadakiss took a shot at jay-z beanie sigeal join in the battle wit Jay-z so it can be lox vs sp plus dmx diss Jay-z in a song wit Jadakiss. Jay-z made a diss track for dmx but he didn't put it out cuz that time he had beef wit nas and mobb deep so jay-z let state property handle the lox
This is my 3rd or 4th time replying to a comment like this and yes I'm aware of the fiesta situation and that was mentioned because in an interview with DJ VLAD Beanie Sigel said all of this. That's why I referenced the record and Beanie Sigel saying Jay-Z took him off of it
@@greggsiano5920 yea cuz Jadakiss and Mya did the best of me pt 1 and jay-z did part 2 same for Fiesta Jadakiss did that wit r kelly then jay-z remix that lol
Sounds good but if you really from that era you know Kiss and Siegal beef actually started from a Source magazine article where Kiss said the whole Philly sounded like him. Beanie took offense. Not saying you completely wrong but that's how their beef started but that other stuff was going on too
Beanie Siegel, one of the best ever. Could've been better than Jigga if you ask me but he couldn't keep his focus and keep his ass out of trouble. Jadakiss. No question, always been good.
Facts!!! That BCOMING Era... He was actually edging to be better than Hova whiles dude was on retirement But he just couldn't stop fucking with the street lol I miss beans yo !!
The video gets the “E” for effort but a “F” for its delivery… barely covered the hot97 flex freestyle session, and only quoted a few bars when both sides lyrically were shooting headshots… anyone under the age of 32 wouldn’t really understand the history of this battle… had to have lived through it… I’m talking to the point where you picked a side and was biased towards the music…
@@JEFFMAN90 🤣🤣🤣🤣All the things you could do on the internet today, and this is the best yo goofy ass could could come up with? A "Shut Up"? I bet you were like, "that'll tell him, boss shit💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾" 🤡💩 🤣🤣🤣
Rite lo key sucked half the shit was freestyles i didnt even watch the whole thing-did he ever mention how the whole thing started?? Like, u kno the actual beef as in the title of the video? I kinda feel like its click bait
I cleared up this in a comment somewhere in this section but yes that's why I referenced Fiesta at the end because Beanie talked about it in an interview with DJ Vlad. We all know Jay-Z is the king of Subliminals but all I said was the record un-huhn! is the general consensus from the multiple articles that I read is when people really started to notice the beef between Jada and Beanie because names were starting to get dropped and un-huhn! just so happened to be on Jadakiss' debut album which garnered a lot of attention. I thought most people from that era already knew that about fiesta so I cut it from the script just like I cut my Jada/Jay-Z portion of the script (basically 7 minutes long) because I felt like I was going too far from the point and also in the song un-huhn! Jada was going at Jay-Z as well but I didn't want to delve too deep into that because I wanted to focus on Beanie Vs Jadakiss. I could have easily gone into the Beanie/Styles P situation because Styles was coming at them crazy and had a very crazy disrespectful rap aimed at Beanie but I didn't want to focus on that.
@@cloutcancun got u! U know.. I still remember reading that summer 2001 issue of the Source where they interviewed Jada about this, he said this quote “I’m a man that deals with respect” in reference to the Jay Z subliminals. Your videos is tough!
Jay z kept taking songs from Jada and remixing it before Jada’s version could gain steam. Examples: “Best of me”and “Fiesta”; so that caused Jada to go at Hov and Siegel being the loyal dude he is jumped head first in the beef and that’s how Jada and Beanie beef started.
I don't think those were subliminals from Jay-z. Back then everyone got on tracks. Jay-z had his own shine. Jadakiss even said to Beanie you just a worker and your boss(jay-z) is my man.
It was Styles P not Jadakiss that said he was outside one day right at the hit factory waiting for Beans with something crazy and that he was still riding around bumping their music. Styles P says it at the end of his Wait A Minute freestyle and also here ruclips.net/video/ymT2bQstQzc/видео.html at the 0:05 & 5:13 mark The beef also started from Jay-Z doing remixes to songs Jadakiss was already featured on. First on Mýa's Best of Me Part 2, then on R. Kelly's Fiesta Remix and Jay-Z even has a line on the song that seemed to be directed at Jadakiss. A writer for The Source magazine quoted Jadakiss where he allegedly claimed that Philly rappers had bitten his style of rhyme. In an interview with Allhiphop.com, Jadakiss said, “That was the writer twisting the shit around. That was some real bullshit. I’m catching some real flack of that! I would never say nothing about Philly because that’s where I sell most of my records at.” However, after reading the Source story and also hearing of the comments, Beanie Sigel took the diss personally claiming to be the only person Jadakiss could be referring to. Jadakiss had also took offense to a line Beanie Sigel said about a car that Jadakiss had, on the song Beanie (Mack Bitch), Beanie Sigel did say that the line wasn't about Jadakiss but tensions were so high that one could see how he felt that way. On October 30 2001 Jermaine Dupri released his 2nd album Instructions and both Jadakiss and Freeway are featured on the song Hate Blood even tho they were beefing at the time Here's some other tracks that they dissed or had subliminally lines thrown at each other on. Jadakiss has said that Styles P dissed Jay-Z on his own song Reservoir Dogs, which was before the beef started. Some have said Jay-Z's line "Sensitive thugs, yall all need hugs" on Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) was directed at The Lox as Jadakiss would reference this in his diss to Beanie Sigel Jadakiss Felony Niggas (By Styles P) Fantastic Four Pt.2 (By Dj Clue) Put Ya Hands Up It's Time I See You Jadakiss Rap City Freetyle Jigga That Nigga Freestyle/White Label (By The Lox) Breakin' The Rules Freestyle (By The Lox) Fiesta Freestyle Burial Freestyle Ten Hut (By Sheek Louch) What Else You Need To Know (By The Lox) Beanie Sigel Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up) (By Jay-Z) Takeover (By Jay-Z) ruclips.net/video/4mtQ9gOclEE/видео.html Beanie Sigel Powerhouse Freestyle Beanie Sigel Freestyle Live From New York Beanie Sigel 357 Freestyle Super Ugly (I Got Myself A Gun) (By Jay-Z) Y'all Get Out (By Freeway) Free (By Freeway) Murda Murda (By Memphis Bleek) Freeway Power 99 Freestyle
Appreciate this breakdown bro!!!! I also do felt like Fantastic Four Part 2, Jadakiss & Styles respectively were getting at Beanie Sigel & Jay-Z in both of their verses.
Completely missed the whole reason the beef started. You had to be outside when this was going on to know how it really started. Beans went at Kiss for Jay-Z because Jay was sneak dissing Kiss on all the remixes he jumped while Jada was on the original. Subliminals we’re thrown on both sides before Jay had Beans go at him. That was one of the best times in rap. We got so much great material from it. I was there at powerhouse when Jada did his verse and Beans ran on stage and did his during Diddy set because Puff wasn’t messing with the LOX at the time.
@@ksoto8960 Fiesta Remix is the most notable. There were a lot of freestyles Hov did at the time taking jabs at Kiss and Styles. Flipping bars and referencing lines from the two is how the LOX peeped it. It could've also started with Jay & Styles because Kiss confirmed Styles dissed Jay on Reservoir Dogs
@@rsmall32 Nah that was for a different reason why Styles P dissed Jay-Z on Reservoir Dogs as everyone found out when Jadakiss said it during his interview with Genius. Styles P dissed Jay-Z on that song because he was mad that Jay-Z made them come to the studio right away after they just left the airport and they had no time to even put their luggage away and that Jay-Z would not have done the same if it was them who wanted a verse Also what freestyles did Jay-Z do subliminally dissing them? some think he subliminally dissed them & Jadakiss on the song Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up) and on Fiesta Remix with the line "After the original it's probably this" as well as on Takeover at the end with the line "And all you other cats throwin' shots at Jigga. You only get half a bar fuck y'all niggas" and on Super Ugly (I Got Myself A Gun) with the line "I don't gotta two way, you gays" so what freestyles did Jay-Z diss them on?
Jada always been my guy but as a kid, I looked up to Beans. South Philly hero right there. I used to be hype as shit seeing him around lol. He on the radio and famous but outside on 21st/22nd and Sigel everyday. Crazy times
People gotta start understanding what's the difference between catching lines and someone writing verses. Lox and State Property was groups so they collectively wrote lines together which is why they finish each other lines. Nobody wrote for anyone its called catching lines.
JADAKISS IS 1 OF DA ALL-TIME GREATS .. BUT .. BEANIE SIGEL(OVER JADAKISS BEAT) IS AN 'ETHER' LEVEL DISS TRACK .. 'MY PUMP MAKE U LIFT UP .. MY TEC MAKE U DO A 360 .. GOT GATS DAT DA GOVERNMENT GOT .. MOPHUCKA IS U THUGGIN OR NOT' - BEANS
this was a great video but you missed out on the most important part. this’ll be a long message but it’s how it went in those days. originally it was jay that jada had a problem with. when jada was first on ruff ryders two weird occurrences happened. jada did a song with mya and jay z jumped on the remix, ok that happened. then jada did a song with r kelly and jay z jumped on that remix. what set the lox off was how jay started his verse on that song. jada knowing jay for the coward he is thought jay was sneak dissing so subliminally jada began dissing jay. beanie said in multiple interviews over the years how scared jay was so jay sent beanie after kiss while jay apologized to jada about never having any beef( that’s why nas said “pop ish and apologize just ask kiss & why jada said don’t try to apologize on your 2way). beanie only had problems with jada because jay z wasn’t man enough for that battle and if you jay z stans doubt this, beanie admitted this himself
In my video, I actually brought up this point but I opted to cut that part out. I mentioned in this video how Beanie said that Jada was originally on the Fiesta record but he was taken off of it. I also mentioned Beanie saying Jay was getting whole songs took from people as well. I recorded about 10 minutes of audio on the Jay-Z/Jadakiss situation alone but I scrapped it because I didn't want to veer too much off of Beanie which is why I didn't want to go too in-depth with Beanie Vs Nas. I think I might repurpose the audio or at least that part of the script for a later video but in my Roc-A-Fella series, I talked about how Memphis Bleek was the bait for Nas and Jay also sent State Property at him. In some of those Jada diss tracks going towards Beanie there were some shots going at Jay because if I can remember correctly Jada said the lines "Look don't try to apologize on your two way Sympathy don't amuse me, go get your uzi" on the song Un-Hunh!
@@cloutcancun that’s why i like your videos, you look at all sides non biased. i’d just rather someone reads this and see you knew that rather then go about it in a toxic way. i always think where jada would be if jay would’ve stepped into the ring. also that factor you mentioned is what ruined jay for me. I won’t get into it but i’ll say this put 10 white executives into a room and jay z still destroyed and ruined more black lives then all of them put together. jay was foul
@@cloutcancun jada also diss jay z on ain’t none of y’all betta beans diss jada on the 357 beat then jada did un-hunh after sheek start doing his diss tracks
@@darionjackson2599 What part did Jadakiss diss Jay-Z on None Of Y'all Betta? I didn't hear any disses on that song and what diss tracks did Sheek Louch do? other than when he was on the tracks White Label & Breakin' The Rules Freestyle with the rest of The Lox
Who do ya'll think would've won in the streets tho if they ran in to each other during the height of it. D Block (Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, J Hood) or State Property (Beanie Sigel, Freeway, Young Chris, Neef Buck, Omillio Sparks, Oschino)
You just rehashed my long forgotten heartbreak with that "Mac & Brad" reference 😞. I had high hopes for that joint... thank you. Great recap of the beef tho. 💯
@@boomboombaby9140if you don't believe that why on kiss the gang goodbye and DMX on the record and he said I'm here to shoot that crown off your head and then Jadakiss he did some on that record too why he didn't respond he didn't say nothing but Nas did on ether you want to apologize just ask kiss that boy was quiet
What up from south jersey. Another dope video from your channel. Whats that clip from at 2:35? Its dope to see styles rocking state prop gear and rapping next to Beans.
Nas had the best song, but as for the facts, jay talkinbout nas fallin off and fuckin his bm gettin her pregnant when nas was still in love wit her, Jay's truths hit harder
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Bar for bar this battle is legendary
🎯💯
Facts.
2000 era this was music
Greatest battle ever! And it was manufactured Becuase “Gay Z” didn’t want any part of anyone other than Nas, who was out of his league but the platform fan base and strategy was genius at the height of the drama so he got his General, his capo, his right hand and second in command, actually rocafella’s best artist to go after one of the greatest in al quads jada! Gay Z was the one that benefited from all this factz! It was a chess move but at the same time, that’s bitch shit on Gay Z’s part! Shout out Beans and state prop as a whole
This battle was like the being a little watching the grownups arguing at a house party lol
Jadakiss originally bring Beans out in 2004 at Powerhouse before Beans had to do his jail bid. That’s when they announced the beef was over.
Beans & Kiss really are underrated, they're 2 of the best bar spitters ever, when it comes to spittin that pain, that real shit, that lyrical shit they top 10 off gp
They not underrated ppl to stupid to realize great lyricists.
My favorite jadakiss song is with 2pac loyal to the Game N.I.G.G.A.S lol 😝 😇😇😊
@@adriel88_ never knew he ever did 1 with Pac. I was pretty sure he never has. Must be come type of mix. Couldn't be from when Pac was alive right?
Nah. Styles is better at spitting that pain than Jada
@@cheechvda and Jada spit better then beanie
This battle was like the undercard for the Jay/Nas battle. Unfortunately this got somewhat overshadowed. Jada was going at Jay on mixtapes because Jay was jumping on all the remixes of Jada's features stealing his shine. But I think at that point Jay put Beans up to going at Jada. Because Hov had his sights set on Nas and Prodigy. Its no way in hell Jay could try to handle Jadakiss too. So like you said, Beans used it as an opportunity to earn his stripes. And that Hot 97 freestyle session on Flex with state property is legendary!
"no way In. Hell"?
NIGGA?
JAY z was too big to handle Jada.
That's why he just sent subs to dude
And disrespected him by stealing his remixes lol
That's what a boss does lol
@@christopherayettey4390 Hov plays chess not checkers he knows Jada would murder him
Correct
Jay was on the ropes. After Prodigy dissed him on Quiet Storm. Only reason he survived Prodigy is because HNIC didn't get much backing and really didn't have radio friendly songs. Thats when Jay tried to end Nas and prodigy. I think Jada was more about him being like I got a team to back me against anyone.
@@zanaitiktok4835 LOOOOOL PRODIGY NEVER EVER MENTIONED HOVS NAME IN A VERSE LOL STOP CAPPN
This is when rappers used to rap.
Real talk ...as soon as they started that im too big to respond to you bs is when everybody decided they could be a rapper
Thank You 🙏🏿
@@wilsondownes4813it was over when Ross walked away from the G-unit beef that's when everyone should've known battling was dead
Damn this brings back memories 2001 summer before the The Twin Towers fell
Big facts
Yassssssss🤦🏽♀️
Right
Yeah man. I was on my way to the 10th grade. Good times.
Definitely respect both of these guys, been a Kiss fan since the 90's with Bad Boy. Beanie was bumping in the early 2000's.
Big Tigger definitely wasn't looking scared he looked intrigued
Absolutely
No freestyle
As someone who watched that episode when it aired, tigger WAS NOT SCARED. Like you said he looked intrigued more than anything. This battle is from my era, I'm 35 so I remember this shit like it was yesterday. All the mixtapes fueled this shit. Shit back in those days mixtapes were huge. I remember mixtape shops opening up in every neighborhood. It was a sad day when the labels shut down the mixtape game, that shit changed hip hop and how we all rocked to the music coming out
Tigga didn't want to seem like he was taking sides.
Lol none of off the top blazing hot
One of the best battles in history. Being a fellow New Yorker, this battle was insane. I was copping mix tapes and Hot 97 was bumping heavy
i was 21, in college, my cousin was engaged to Sigel at the time....what a time to be alive
Beans is my favorite rapper of all time. He is just something else man. He goes so in depth with his bars and you feel everything he says. Early 2000s was special. What a time in hip hop
Beans was SO nice, dude was effortless, could tell stories, all that shit, punches, metaphors AND the delivery! Definitely one of the nicest ever
@@georgethompsonjr6082 you said it. Effortless. He once said "there's a difference between talented and a gift. Im gifted". He wasn't lying.
@@uncleice4929 beans ate jada
Same
The b is coming is my shit
My all time favorite rap battle because I felt they were evenly matched so I just knew it was a good duel
It's so hard to call who won and that's what makes this battle so interesting. They both went in and their crews both had shots for each other as well that was crazy
@@cloutcancun exactly I never called a winner in that and by them coming out of it cool made it even harder to call cuz like I said they was evenly matched from skills to credibility and the fact both of there albums you could match up so to me it was the best battle but was overshadowed obviously by the Jay and Nas beef which was at the same time
Issafact. I came from this era
@@romusicent6895 definitely my era I was in my Jr Year of Highschool so me and my homies was all into that tough
ExACTLY!!!!!!!!
Classic beef right here, both held their weight 💯
Like these are times where people really could have gotten hurt if they've crossed paths
I personally think depending on the situation it’s worse nowadays in the social media age. Especially in this era where people stay dissing dead people and then next thing you know they’re dead as well.
Real shit
@@cloutcancun it’s much worse now it’s not even close. You can say what you want about the street rappers of this generation but you can’t call them fake, unfortunately.
Yea it’s a lot worse now, because it’s documented on a different level.. then you have young nxggas carrying military grade guns with drums/extendos sliding like it’s a sport.
Back then it’s was more mysterious, and that brought forth a darker energy- but, there was a lot of front’n back then too, studio gangsters.
Roc-a-fella vs D-Block mixtape was hands down the BEST MIXTAPE EVER!!! CLASSIC!!!
Word is bond
That d block vs state property mixtape I had was insane somebody got me for it😂 I would still have that cd today and this is in 2001
@@marcusreed5862 Whats it called? is it anywhere online where i can find it?
“I kick your ball over the fence to let a nigga know who yard is this”-beanie sigel
2PAC VS. BIGGIE, DMX VS. JAY-Z, JA RULE VS. 50 CENT, JADAKISS VS. BEANIE SIGEL ETC. HIP HOP WAS ON FIRE BACK THEN! 🔥 💯
Most definitely
Dipset vs lox was a good beef 2
And actually it was beans vs the whole lox he took on jadakiss styles p and sheek louch on his own that's a ryda move
G unit vs lox
Then beans vs the lox
I’m pissed we never got a Siegel/Jada album. I didn’t even realize I needed this.
That uncomfortable look on Tigga's face right at 0:30 cracks me up every time lol 🤣
One of the greatest battles EVER!!!
My man said he should’ve got a Don Demarco, only the battle rap community caught that.
Bang bang!!! QGTM
FAX! lol
I was thinking the same thing. Smmmmmmmmaaaascccckkkk!!
Jadakiss never lost a battle... but this may have been the one draw...
🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
He lost this battle… That disco beat was wack and Siegel ate his food… Siegel kept rapping matter of fact the shit cut off and he was still rhyming lol…
@@wc6081 come on F it this another verse...🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@wc6081 facts I heard it in it’s entirety like once gotta find that again.
Nah this was the one Jada Lost 💀. TILL THIS DAY Beans joint got lines for days
This was so epic! This was a good time for hip hop. Everybody was beefing with somebody... and they was really rapping.
Exactly
Mad bars!!!
Being from Philly I grew up listen to both heavy I don’t care who won they made nothin but bangers!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Good documentary bro. I didn't want it to end. Takes me back to those days when hip hop was good. We don't have beefs like these anymore. Anyway I was siding with Jadakiss. I still think Jadakiss won. I do recognize that Beans got bars to though. I would never had admitted this then, but I admit it now. Beans had bars.
It was back and forth sheek louch said they was the only group that was getting on dblock nerves lyrically they say shit about what you wore what stay at
The battle started because Jay Z kept jumping on all the records that Kiss was featured on. Because Hov was the bigger artists that single got pushed instead. The tracks were Fiesta by R.Kelly the Mya Best of Me record and there was another one but I couldn't remember. Kiss wanted Hov but Beans saw it as a time to make a name for himself. Then we got this classic
That's why at the end of the wait a minute freestyle by styles p, he says " get off my man's dick and let him do his numbers " because of everything you just said indeed
Beanie vs jada cool...but can we get a jada vs 50!??
This was the Shawn Michaels Vs Razor Ramon of Rap battles/beefs - Legendary
Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart
Part 2
I got a theory that the playground scheme on beanie “put ya hands up “ diss. Is where the battle rappers got scheming from🤔
When rappers where literacy experts
Were *
The irony is amazing
You getting better at speaking, keep it up bro
I practice pretty much everyday to get more comfortable. Thank you so much!
It’s always fire when you know both MCs could really kill shit if they teamed up
This was a good video, but some context was left out probably because your younger than the beef or wasn’t focusing. Jay-Z was positioning himself to be at the top and was feeling pressure from all the hard spitters in rap/NYC like Nas, Prodigy, and Jadakiss. He started doing things behind the scenes as was said at the end of the video to stop people’s bags and gain higher superiority. Then he sent Bennie Siegel to fight his battle for him to gain higher position in the rap game. Jay-Z was really smart.
PA held the roc down.
"I gotta squeeze the juice outta my headphones..."
What that mean?
"All for the love" My favorite song off that album! "Ever since 12 I’ve been spitting like tobacco?"
Thanks for this one. Didn’t know much about this beef but I do remember when it was happening back in da day! Great job👌🏾
I feel the Jay-Z & Nas Beef overshadowed Beans & Kiss Beef. Definitely classic tho.
Nas stayed giving D BLOCK shoutouts, Nas knew they were on his side
One of the greatest underrated rap beefs of all time. Jada and beans gave us some great lyrical content but tbh beans won this beef in my opinion 🤷🏽♂️
Definitely my favorite battle ever.
Dj envy has the version where beans KEEPS RAPPING
Where do u find that
@@TonyMasters27 That’s in the hip hop vaults.
We need that
@@TonyMasters27 You won’t get that never.
Yo y not
This beef Been brewing since 96 when jayz mase and kiss used to rhyme with big, and big called all of them nice, but when big died it was a all out war for the king of ny the lox teamed up with mase, jayz didn't like that at all so he started dissing mase and mase made a few disses back then dissapeared, so jayz did a song called reservoir dogs with the lox and styles dissed jayz on his whole verse, then styles dissed him again on a song called blackout, so jayz took a beat made for kiss by swizz and threw shots at kiss called jigga my nigga, so the lox spit a few verses over the same remixed beat, then jayz remixed mya and kiss song and took him off the r. Kelly song and made a video, then jayz formed a team, bleek and nas was going at it, and jayz kept throwing shots at kiss on put your hands up, then styles and kiss did a fiesta remix going at jayz, jayz then did takeover he then told bleek to step back and told beans and state property to get the lox out the game while he get nas and mobb deep out the game so it'll just be them but the plan totally backfired as to where the nas ethered jayz Cassidy humiliated freeway in a freestyle battle and beans fell off the map.
Good analysis
Yo I swear at first I didn't think styles wad sending shots at Jay at the time but then years later after the beef was done, I started listening to those same 2 songs again and said to myself I wonder If styles sending shots and then realized he was sending shots the whole time...but I think Jay sent shots back at LOX on that same blackout song too...I definitely knew about mase and Jay sending shots at each other as well...you know your hip hop history gss because I was never sure if LOX was sending shots on both songs til a few years after their beef
You got the beginning wrong it was Jadakiss vs jay-z cuz jay-z was remaking tracks on the songs Jadakiss was featured on like Fiesta wit r kelly and best of me wit Mya. So was Jadakiss took a shot at jay-z beanie sigeal join in the battle wit Jay-z so it can be lox vs sp plus dmx diss Jay-z in a song wit Jadakiss. Jay-z made a diss track for dmx but he didn't put it out cuz that time he had beef wit nas and mobb deep so jay-z let state property handle the lox
This is my 3rd or 4th time replying to a comment like this and yes I'm aware of the fiesta situation and that was mentioned because in an interview with DJ VLAD Beanie Sigel said all of this. That's why I referenced the record and Beanie Sigel saying Jay-Z took him off of it
On fiesta jay goes after the remix it’s prolly this lolol
@@greggsiano5920 yea cuz Jadakiss and Mya did the best of me pt 1 and jay-z did part 2 same for Fiesta Jadakiss did that wit r kelly then jay-z remix that lol
Sounds good but if you really from that era you know Kiss and Siegal beef actually started from a Source magazine article where Kiss said the whole Philly sounded like him. Beanie took offense. Not saying you completely wrong but that's how their beef started but that other stuff was going on too
Where was that said or stated that Jay-Z made a diss track going at DMX but didn't put it out?
“Now I’m stunting on a disco beat,
And yous a f** your next rhyme should be on a Sisqo beat” 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Still one of my fav battles of all time
Not the Don Demarco! 😂
I need a don demarco followed by an air horn hahaha
Beanie Siegel, one of the best ever. Could've been better than Jigga if you ask me but he couldn't keep his focus and keep his ass out of trouble. Jadakiss. No question, always been good.
Facts!!! That BCOMING Era... He was actually edging to be better than Hova whiles dude was on retirement
But he just couldn't stop fucking with the street lol
I miss beans yo !!
Nas said it in Ether….. Compared to Beans u whack
No. He was overrated
@@hiphopentertainment6077 Nas was just talking shit
The video gets the “E” for effort but a “F” for its delivery… barely covered the hot97 flex freestyle session, and only quoted a few bars when both sides lyrically were shooting headshots… anyone under the age of 32 wouldn’t really understand the history of this battle… had to have lived through it… I’m talking to the point where you picked a side and was biased towards the music…
True, I couldn't pick a side, maybe that's why I didn't feed into this beef too much I remember the beef tho.
And this dude's voice is mad annoying. Like he had a cold when he did this ... LOL
@@KiddPanther shut up
@@JEFFMAN90 🤣🤣🤣🤣All the things you could do on the internet today, and this is the best yo goofy ass could could come up with? A "Shut Up"? I bet you were like, "that'll tell him, boss shit💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾" 🤡💩
🤣🤣🤣
Rite lo key sucked half the shit was freestyles i didnt even watch the whole thing-did he ever mention how the whole thing started?? Like, u kno the actual beef as in the title of the video? I kinda feel like its click bait
I Was Just Talking Bout “I Hope Someone Review This Beef” Last Week 😂
I watched that State Property in the basement episode. I mean, I watched it live. I love being an 80s baby.
Beans live in my neighborhood 😂😭 I see him like everyday
Same with kiss I see him every morning getting his workout on at the Dam
Why is funny that he lives in your neighborhood?
“After the original it’s probably this” Jay Z throwin a subliminal at Jada for making the remixes of Mya’s “Best of me” and “Fiesta” hotter
I cleared up this in a comment somewhere in this section but yes that's why I referenced Fiesta at the end because Beanie talked about it in an interview with DJ Vlad. We all know Jay-Z is the king of Subliminals but all I said was the record un-huhn! is the general consensus from the multiple articles that I read is when people really started to notice the beef between Jada and Beanie because names were starting to get dropped and un-huhn! just so happened to be on Jadakiss' debut album which garnered a lot of attention. I thought most people from that era already knew that about fiesta so I cut it from the script just like I cut my Jada/Jay-Z portion of the script (basically 7 minutes long) because I felt like I was going too far from the point and also in the song un-huhn! Jada was going at Jay-Z as well but I didn't want to delve too deep into that because I wanted to focus on Beanie Vs Jadakiss. I could have easily gone into the Beanie/Styles P situation because Styles was coming at them crazy and had a very crazy disrespectful rap aimed at Beanie but I didn't want to focus on that.
@@cloutcancun got u! U know.. I still remember reading that summer 2001 issue of the Source where they interviewed Jada about this, he said this quote “I’m a man that deals with respect” in reference to the Jay Z subliminals. Your videos is tough!
Soooo U going to act like J HOOD didn't deserve an assault charge or three in this battle?!
I think it's one of the most underrated rap battles ever in Hip Hop
Notification gang
That's my favorite gang hahah
If only Beans still had his voice.... THIS would be the versus to end all versus!!
Jay z kept taking songs from Jada and remixing it before Jada’s version could gain steam. Examples: “Best of me”and “Fiesta”; so that caused Jada to go at Hov and Siegel being the loyal dude he is jumped head first in the beef and that’s how Jada and Beanie beef started.
Correct
This is in my opinion, the realest beef in hip hop history after Pac vs Big
Naw........ Nas and Jay was way more in depth and personal
Representing from Portland Oregon
New Subscriber. You earned it
When rappers actually spit bars at each other and not talk about he got more money and jewelry
203 860 and 475 is in the building but I'm from New Haven Ct that's one of my favorite beefs of all time
Sp killed it with that Mop breaking rules beat. It was over after that. Y’all go check the track out.
Lol, not really
Mannnnn that was one hot time in hip-hop every rapper from NYC/NJ was beefing years later still 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don't think those were subliminals from Jay-z. Back then everyone got on tracks. Jay-z had his own shine. Jadakiss even said to Beanie you just a worker and your boss(jay-z) is my man.
A Don DiMarco reference! Salute! You should do a video on the Rise of Smack and the URL.
WORD,!
It was Styles P not Jadakiss that said he was outside one day right at the hit factory waiting for Beans with something crazy and that he was still riding around bumping their music. Styles P says it at the end of his Wait A Minute freestyle and also here ruclips.net/video/ymT2bQstQzc/видео.html at the 0:05 & 5:13 mark
The beef also started from Jay-Z doing remixes to songs Jadakiss was already featured on. First on Mýa's Best of Me Part 2, then on R. Kelly's Fiesta Remix and Jay-Z even has a line on the song that seemed to be directed at Jadakiss. A writer for The Source magazine quoted Jadakiss where he allegedly claimed that Philly rappers had bitten his style of rhyme. In an interview with Allhiphop.com, Jadakiss said, “That was the writer twisting the shit around. That was some real bullshit. I’m catching some real flack of that! I would never say nothing about Philly because that’s where I sell most of my records at.” However, after reading the Source story and also hearing of the comments, Beanie Sigel took the diss personally claiming to be the only person Jadakiss could be referring to. Jadakiss had also took offense to a line Beanie Sigel said about a car that Jadakiss had, on the song Beanie (Mack Bitch), Beanie Sigel did say that the line wasn't about Jadakiss but tensions were so high that one could see how he felt that way. On October 30 2001 Jermaine Dupri released his 2nd album Instructions and both Jadakiss and Freeway are featured on the song Hate Blood even tho they were beefing at the time
Here's some other tracks that they dissed or had subliminally lines thrown at each other on. Jadakiss has said that Styles P dissed Jay-Z on his own song Reservoir Dogs, which was before the beef started. Some have said Jay-Z's line "Sensitive thugs, yall all need hugs" on Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) was directed at The Lox as Jadakiss would reference this in his diss to Beanie Sigel
Jadakiss
Felony Niggas (By Styles P)
Fantastic Four Pt.2 (By Dj Clue)
Put Ya Hands Up
It's Time I See You
Jadakiss Rap City Freetyle
Jigga That Nigga Freestyle/White Label (By The Lox)
Breakin' The Rules Freestyle (By The Lox)
Fiesta Freestyle
Burial Freestyle
Ten Hut (By Sheek Louch)
What Else You Need To Know (By The Lox)
Beanie Sigel
Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up) (By Jay-Z)
Takeover (By Jay-Z)
ruclips.net/video/4mtQ9gOclEE/видео.html
Beanie Sigel Powerhouse Freestyle
Beanie Sigel Freestyle Live From New York
Beanie Sigel 357 Freestyle
Super Ugly (I Got Myself A Gun) (By Jay-Z)
Y'all Get Out (By Freeway)
Free (By Freeway)
Murda Murda (By Memphis Bleek)
Freeway Power 99 Freestyle
There you go again breaking it down to the smallest iota 😂 respect
@@ArtisanWindchimes Said it here first lool
Appreciate this breakdown bro!!!! I also do felt like Fantastic Four Part 2, Jadakiss & Styles respectively were getting at Beanie Sigel & Jay-Z in both of their verses.
When state property went to HOT97 and beanie rapped off special delivery beat 1st...THEY WENT FUCKIN NUTS 4 2HRS🔥🔥🔥
Completely missed the whole reason the beef started. You had to be outside when this was going on to know how it really started. Beans went at Kiss for Jay-Z because Jay was sneak dissing Kiss on all the remixes he jumped while Jada was on the original. Subliminals we’re thrown on both sides before Jay had Beans go at him. That was one of the best times in rap. We got so much great material from it. I was there at powerhouse when Jada did his verse and Beans ran on stage and did his during Diddy set because Puff wasn’t messing with the LOX at the time.
What songs did Jay sneak diss Jadakiss on?
@@ksoto8960 Fiesta Remix is the most notable. There were a lot of freestyles Hov did at the time taking jabs at Kiss and Styles. Flipping bars and referencing lines from the two is how the LOX peeped it. It could've also started with Jay & Styles because Kiss confirmed Styles dissed Jay on Reservoir Dogs
@@rsmall32 Nah that was for a different reason why Styles P dissed Jay-Z on Reservoir Dogs as everyone found out when Jadakiss said it during his interview with Genius. Styles P dissed Jay-Z on that song because he was mad that Jay-Z made them come to the studio right away after they just left the airport and they had no time to even put their luggage away and that Jay-Z would not have done the same if it was them who wanted a verse
Also what freestyles did Jay-Z do subliminally dissing them? some think he subliminally dissed them & Jadakiss on the song Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up) and on Fiesta Remix with the line "After the original it's probably this" as well as on Takeover at the end with the line "And all you other cats throwin' shots at Jigga. You only get half a bar fuck y'all niggas" and on Super Ugly (I Got Myself A Gun) with the line "I don't gotta two way, you gays" so what freestyles did Jay-Z diss them on?
Jada on a disco beat...🔥🔥🔥‼️💯‼️
“Im really bout to hurt you kiss,
Spittin candy bars yeah
nigga sweeter then a hershey kiss”
👀🔥
Jada always been my guy but as a kid, I looked up to Beans. South Philly hero right there. I used to be hype as shit seeing him around lol. He on the radio and famous but outside on 21st/22nd and Sigel everyday. Crazy times
That rocafella diss with style p was DIRTY.
Which one
People gotta start understanding what's the difference between catching lines and someone writing verses. Lox and State Property was groups so they collectively wrote lines together which is why they finish each other lines. Nobody wrote for anyone its called catching lines.
JADAKISS IS 1 OF DA ALL-TIME GREATS .. BUT .. BEANIE SIGEL(OVER JADAKISS BEAT) IS AN 'ETHER' LEVEL DISS TRACK .. 'MY PUMP MAKE U LIFT UP .. MY TEC MAKE U DO A 360 .. GOT GATS DAT DA GOVERNMENT GOT .. MOPHUCKA IS U THUGGIN OR NOT' - BEANS
This era was like no other ..glad the lox getting the recognition they always deserved 🔥
Dope video.
Yes I. Been waiting for this one
Man I'm going back to listen to the whole beef this shit was classic man
This bring back so many memories
this was a great video but you missed out on the most important part. this’ll be a long message but it’s how it went in those days. originally it was jay that jada had a problem with. when jada was first on ruff ryders two weird occurrences happened. jada did a song with mya and jay z jumped on the remix, ok that happened. then jada did a song with r kelly and jay z jumped on that remix. what set the lox off was how jay started his verse on that song. jada knowing jay for the coward he is thought jay was sneak dissing so subliminally jada began dissing jay. beanie said in multiple interviews over the years how scared jay was so jay sent beanie after kiss while jay apologized to jada about never having any beef( that’s why nas said “pop ish and apologize just ask kiss & why jada said don’t try to apologize on your 2way). beanie only had problems with jada because jay z wasn’t man enough for that battle and if you jay z stans doubt this, beanie admitted this himself
also if you listen to beanie and free rhymes state p is saying it with them, just saying
In my video, I actually brought up this point but I opted to cut that part out. I mentioned in this video how Beanie said that Jada was originally on the Fiesta record but he was taken off of it. I also mentioned Beanie saying Jay was getting whole songs took from people as well. I recorded about 10 minutes of audio on the Jay-Z/Jadakiss situation alone but I scrapped it because I didn't want to veer too much off of Beanie which is why I didn't want to go too in-depth with Beanie Vs Nas. I think I might repurpose the audio or at least that part of the script for a later video but in my Roc-A-Fella series, I talked about how Memphis Bleek was the bait for Nas and Jay also sent State Property at him. In some of those Jada diss tracks going towards Beanie there were some shots going at Jay because if I can remember correctly Jada said the lines "Look don't try to apologize on your two way
Sympathy don't amuse me, go get your uzi" on the song Un-Hunh!
@@cloutcancun that’s why i like your videos, you look at all sides non biased. i’d just rather someone reads this and see you knew that rather then go about it in a toxic way. i always think where jada would be if jay would’ve stepped into the ring. also that factor you mentioned is what ruined jay for me. I won’t get into it but i’ll say this put 10 white executives into a room and jay z still destroyed and ruined more black lives then all of them put together. jay was foul
@@cloutcancun jada also diss jay z on ain’t none of y’all betta beans diss jada on the 357 beat then jada did un-hunh after sheek start doing his diss tracks
@@darionjackson2599 What part did Jadakiss diss Jay-Z on None Of Y'all Betta? I didn't hear any disses on that song and what diss tracks did Sheek Louch do? other than when he was on the tracks White Label & Breakin' The Rules Freestyle with the rest of The Lox
Who do ya'll think would've won in the streets tho if they ran in to each other during the height of it. D Block (Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, J Hood) or State Property (Beanie Sigel, Freeway, Young Chris, Neef Buck, Omillio Sparks, Oschino)
You have one of the best channels on RUclips dope content
Other than Cormega going at Nas this was my favorite shit of that summer
I wanted that Mac and Brad album so bad
You just rehashed my long forgotten heartbreak with that "Mac & Brad" reference 😞. I had high hopes for that joint... thank you.
Great recap of the beef tho. 💯
Jay z was scared of kiss that's why he got beanie Sigel the battle for him
Wtf ?? I don’t believe dat 😂😂😂💀💀💀
@@boomboombaby9140 😂😂😂 I believe it
@@boomboombaby9140if you don't believe that why on kiss the gang goodbye and DMX on the record and he said I'm here to shoot that crown off your head and then Jadakiss he did some on that record too why he didn't respond he didn't say nothing but Nas did on ether you want to apologize just ask kiss that boy was quiet
See how dumb you are, Kiss went at Beans first, so how is it that Jay sent Beans at Kiss.
Jay Z was scared of Styles P.... Styles dissed Jay... Jay didn't even reply.
I produced that ep of Rapcity tha Bassment with Beans in the booth.. Great job #Respect
For real
Super Dope Video bro! Sidenote...that Silent Muder shirt that Jada is rockin with the It Was Written font...🔥🔥🔥🔥
Whats the time stamp of the Nas shirt?
@@YeahthoBarnes 1:34
These our my guys love these dudes fr
Shout out from Gothenburg, Sweden. Battle/beef n vid dope af 💯
Great work legends all over this battle glad everybody made it out unscathed just sharpening they swords
One of my favorite songs though is still Styles P on that Ray J beat
What up from south jersey. Another dope video from your channel. Whats that clip from at 2:35? Its dope to see styles rocking state prop gear and rapping next to Beans.
Thank you! And it's this: ruclips.net/video/KqDJZ5yFTcs/видео.html
YESSSSS KEEP MAKING MORE OF THESE
LONGER FEUDS PLEASE
That battle was hotter than the Nas-Jay battle. The Nas-Jay jawn was one sided with Nas winnin hands down.
Nas had the best song, but as for the facts, jay talkinbout nas fallin off and fuckin his bm gettin her pregnant when nas was still in love wit her, Jay's truths hit harder
I knew dis would b🔥 from jump
Jadakiss is one of the greatest to ever do it. This current generation of teens have no idea.
Sad but true
I remember this beef in high-school. Those were the days
Beans won.
Respect to Kiss. But my mans beans took this one.
No he didn't go listen to the roc vs dblock mixtape. Jada n the lox murdered the overall battle
@@destndj53 bro I get that but if you go diss track for diss track beans had way better songs
@@doncoolio1229
Yeah, but beans was getting assistance with the pen game for the bars he was dropping.
We know every bar kiss laid, he created himself
LUL you didn't tell the story behind the beef or where it started. Dudes didn't start dissing each other out of know where.