Kemper Kabinet - the BEST way to monitor a Kemper?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2021
- For my Presets visit: johnnathancordy.gumroad.com/ I've had a Kemper since 2014-15 and tried various options for using it live. I don't have the powered toaster, so the most obvious and available choice has been PA speakers - RCF ART312 and Yamaha DXR types. The Kemper Kabinet seems to be the best choice though, especially if it can get closer to the feeling of an Amp in the Room or on Stage. So when one came up used nearby, I decided to grab it and try it out.
Here's the first time plugging in, and I'm powering the Kab with the power stage of a VHT D50 (Dumble ODS 2x6l6 50w Output tubes). First impressions are good, and I should have a solid state poweramp to try soon, at which point I'll do a follow up, and I also want to follow up once I've tried this set up on a gig or two!
So far, the only real negative that I can point out is that, obviously, this is at the moment only really useful for the Kemper - whereas some other options can be used with other devices too (Line 6 Powercab in particular)
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That’s a stand out intro! Lovely stuff
I have the powered version ,it has taken the kemper experience to a new level, the ability to monitor backing tracks through it in FRFR mode while the guitar tone passes through a guitar speaker imprint all through a singular cabinet is a game changer for me.
Can you really do that? Play a backing track FRFR mode while hearing your guitar in normal speaker mode?!? Wow!!
How to set that up exactly?
@@Cpt935 i guess using aux-in input jack like described in manual ?
@@pnowak2you can use the kemper usb audio now no need for an aux cable!
Great stuff John, thanks ! loved the intro ! Been hesitating for some time to pull the trigger on this for my live setup. Would be cool to have feedback on how it handles gigs
I recommend the orange pedal baby as a SS poweramp (I know it might be too late having ordered the Harley Benton already). Anywho, I've had the ehx 44magnum (class D) for a few years and it worked well as small pedal board sized amp in could fit in the helix case for when I needed to bring my own amp for monitoring through a backline cab.
I tried it against the Orange pedalbaby and the ehx 44 sounded quite loud and nice but the 🍊 pedalbaby (OPB) class AB had a little more smoothness and a slightly better dynamic response compared to the class D of the EHX 44magnum class D. I couldn't compare it to the SD powerstage (SD-PS) personally as it was very hard to get it in AU. But i heard the same differences in EichP42's review of the OPB against the SD PS, with the OPB being more dynamic and sweeter/smoother/richer than the SD-PS, that little bit of extra magic harmonically.
So I chalk it up to the difference between class AB and D SS poweramps. It would be mostly lost in a mix and would be subtle and the OPB is bigger, but I found myself hearing it esp in high (super) freqs and enjoying the sound through OPB (+Marshall 2x12) than through the ehx 44 mag and from what I've heard in sound comparisons between OPB and SD PS, for what it's worth.
Anywho, in case it piques your interest, and you get get your hands on one..
Great video John , what kind of drum program do you use for your drum loops ? It always sounds really great man !!
That's pretty daggum cool! Even has the Zakk Wylde EVM Black Label Society signature speaker too.
I have been using my unpowered toaster with the kabinet and SD power stage. I still prefer an actual amp when playing/practicing at home. Kemper is great for recording, but for that amp in the room feel, The Kabinet didn't do it for me.
I get the tone and all but dude you have a really nice touch. Beautiful legato phrasing. Are you using any compression at all?
Playing is beautiful and skillful, Kab is meh you can get the same thing for a lot cheaper buy buying a celestion speaker a cab and a solid state amp if you need it
Hey I‘m using a Celestion F12-X200 FRFR speaker (it‘s almost the same as the Kemper Cone), mounted in a Palmer 1x12 Cab open Back and powered by a Hotone Loudster. First Time I ve powered it up, there was this wow effect for me, it sounds on low Volume most near to a real Amp in a room than I‘ve ever heared bevor, much better than a Headrush FRFR.
This is almost the exact same 'bypass setup' (cheaper) I'm thinking of assembling. But I've read everywhere that is the K12H-100TC Celestion that is almost the same as the Kemper Kone...
@@equaleyez keep in mind, if you use a Kemper, the Kemper-Kone is specialy matched to the build in Cab-Sim to imitate the dynamics on volume, if you use any other IR there should be no big difference. The Datasheet of the K12K-200 aka Kemper Kone seems to be offline, I decided to buy the F12-X200 because of the only Difference was 8 to 4Ohm. The K12H-100TC has a 1,75 inch speaker instead of 2 inch and only 100W but the main difference is 50-10000 Hz to 60-20000 Hz …. But anything above 10000 Hz shouldnt matter for Guitarsound or mostly its better to cut off via Hicut …. So Fullrange isn‘t realy what guitarsound needs and will neve give the dynamics a real Cab does, but it allows great Tone at low and neighbour friendly Volume … and great if you use Backingtracks ;) …. Sorry english isn‘t my native language, but I think you know what I mean … and thats only my 2 Cents, sound is a highly subjective thing.
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Sounded to me like a Modeler that has the "Presence" set at 10 - It was painfully bright. It was picking up all the string shifting noises and squeaks I try to avoid at all costs. I know you're just exploring the settings and sounds, so I thought you might be interested in my impressions on what I'm hearing so far. Thanks
I would have to agree but I also think for some reason, most of the time John plays the Kemper he seems to prefer really bright profiles compared to the Helix. The Tone Junkie one sounded more in line for me personally. It would be interesting to see if John could try some slightly warmer profiles because I don’t think he spends as much time tweaking the Kemper vs the Line 6 stuff. I could be wrong though.
So this is a profile of my Electra dyne into a Marshall cab and it's definitely a bright amp,
Hi, tks for the video.
I have a quastion:
If I have a Kemper power head and a Kemper Kabinet, for best experience, you would recomend check ordem uncheck "monitor cab off" ?
I used a Friedman ASM-12 with my Kemper for a good while -- and really enjoyed it; it's a great solution. However, several months ago I put two Kemper Kones into my 2x12 cab and paired it with a Ritter Camplifier SHP. It's really taken things to another level. It truly does provide much more of the mythical amp-in-the-room feel than an FRFR. I've never been more satisfied with an amp than I am with this setup. It ticks my own boxes for how I want an amp to feel and sound -- and it's still so easy to record with! I mostly use MBritt profiles, and with those I rarely use the imprints. I have used the imprints with profiles from other folks and have had good results (though it wasn't always the speaker I *thought* I'd like the most. It's worth experimenting). I tried the Kones as an experiment, and they exceeded my expectations. The Kemper ecosystem continues to to evolve and improve to this day... pretty amazing piece of kit.
FWIW, as John mentioned, a linear solid state power amp will give more predictable results with the Kones. I used my tube power amp before my Ritter arrived, and it didn't sound quite right. YMMV, of course. I think you also can't get a true reckoning of the Kones' sound mic'ed.
I've been considering purchasing a FRFR cab to gig with my Kemper Stage. There are so many options out there that it's hard to decide which one to get. Of course, it would be nice to buy either the Kemper cab or the powered version. I do own a Fryette Powerstation that could be used with the passive cab. Can you offer an opinion as to which would be best. I think they both offer benefits. Nice to have it all in one with the powered cab. However, the passive ones seem to be more readily available used for significantly less money. I wish I could try them both before buying.
Could you tell me more about the Strat, please?
Ja well no hey, dis is bakgat. As usual, John is as sharp as a lemon. Even my chick might dig this.
Found it really bright.. could that have been coz of the power stage you used?
hey, what solid state poweramp have you ordered? Im one of the people that suggested the orange pedal baby, in the kemper facebook group :)
Something harley Benton, loads have recommended the pedal baby though, so I think you might be on to something!
I kinda get a feeling that there’s a bit chance of option paralysis with the settings when changing profiles. I have a 4x12 with GT75’s and really liking it. Going monitor out and taking out the cab impulse so l am just hearing the cab. I like the GT75s better than Mesa V 30’s. Go figure.
I agree with you. I only tend to like certain speakers and would prefer just to have a couple of real 1x12 speaker cabs. By the way, the GT75 is a massively underrated speaker. I also used to have a 4x12 loaded with GT75s - the tone was amazing and it was great to play, albeit less fun to lug around to gigs! While I tend to prefer greenbacks these days, I still I much prefer GT75s over vintage 30s which I tend to think are a bit overrated outside of high gain metal purposes.
Do they do a powered version of this Cab?
Yes
Is it better than playing the Kemper in to the PowerCab?
If you're a Kemper user - definitely not!
@@johnnathancordy Just to be clear…are you saying the Kemper/Powercab combo is better than the Kemper/Kempercab combo?
@@jeroenbron8271 sorry I've just read what I wrote and it makes no sense.
If you're a kemper user, I don't really think you'd want to go without the ability to interact with the kemper kabinet.
I reckon proprietary is the way to go
@@johnnathancordy Thanks for your clarification. I have a Kemper + Helix + Powercab. Just wondering if the Kempercab would be an improvement over the Powercab when using the Kemper..
Is it IR based(cabinet with mic)? Or just only cabinet sound?
Do you mean the sound of this video?
@@johnnathancordy Nope! Just kemper kone! Sorry for I replied before I finished the video.
Sent you money via PayPal and have not received an email yet. What should I do?
He does it manually and is generally really fast to respond but I’m sure you’ll get it soon.
I assumed it was manual but it’s been 2 days now.
@@soloracer Did you check your “spam” folder? I contacted him via Patreon so hopefully he gets the message and gets back to you about it.
@@soloracer could you email me? I should have emailed to your PayPal address but sometimes they're not updated?
I emailed the PP address. Is there another I should use?