The Reising M50!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This is a classic old machine gun that was designed in the late 1930s. This particular gun was made around 1940, probably, so it's over 80 years old! If you want to learn more about the Reising M50 (and Reising's other designs), I recommend the book, "The Many Firearm Designs of Eugene Raising" by David Albert. Amazon link: a.co/d/bhTRnaR
i knew a dealer who purchased 23 of those from the illinois state police in the late 60's for a whopping sum of $700 and still had them in the early 90's
Damn. That's a steal
Ask an old timer, military surplus rifles like the Russian Moisin Nagant were 9.95 small and large ring Mausers and 03 and 03A3 Springfield sold for 30-70$. Hell SKS rifles were still being sold for 80-100$ with a few 100 rds of ammo up until the mid to late 90's.
Love how our law enforcement gets to have fully semiautos but we the people that actually need them against a tyrannical state can't have them.
On another note we dont have separation between our law enforcement, justice system and the federal government.
@@michaelatkin9649 We don't even have a separation of private industry and government.
@@amypeplinski6276 After the AWB sunset in 2004 and more were able to be imported I bought a Yugo for $100 from my local shop. He had crates of them. Salad days.
I’ve got a WW2 Marine build. I love it. Breaks firing pins every 500-1000rnds but otherwise it runs anything sub 900fps. Closed bolt, on a bag, it’s 4 inches at 100.
If it’s breaking firing pins, your pins are too long for the bolt. Look up the fixes for it and you’ll see what I mean. The only stoppage I had was a broken hammer spring, and with a Wolf spring replacement kit, I’ve not had any further problems. 230 grain ball ammo that I load for 850 FPS and it’s a joy to shoot!
They were a police gun in a WWII era, and the Guadalcanal models did not have mil spec interchangeability in an era when Marines tossed all the parts from stripped guns into one cleaning vat and could not get them to work subsequently.
All it's shortcomings aside, it did help guard the home front, permitting more (proper) weapons to reach the troops. And, it would kill you just as dead as an M1 Thompson if push came to shove.
Mark you always finding the weird shot we love...if you don't find it we know that you're going to make it. Keep up the great work you do!
Some trap loads smell so good it reminds me of waking up hungry when someone already has the bacon and coffee going.
It's one of those smells that we'll always associate with simpler times. Some .22LR powder has that smell, don't know exactly what it is, but if I could bottle and sell it. . .I would.
Years ago my wife’s father had one of those Savage .22s that he said kept jamming and asked me to fix it. Turns out he had taken it apart and reassembled it with the rear sear (you called it a pillar) backwards causing it to fire full auto. The jamming came from the tubular magazine and carrier that couldn’t fed it fast enough. Turning around the rear seat fixed it.
Why not just install a stronger mag spring lol
It wasn’t just the spring, if I recall correctly, there was also a levered carrier that would raise the cartridge up so that it could be chambered. The Savage .22 was like the Reising in that the bolt was two pieces, the front half acting as the bolt and the back as the hammer. In full auto both parts return simultaneously. In semi the bolt only returns when the trigger is released. I have long looked for one with a ten round box magazine which would eliminate the feeding problems in full auto.
The old mossbergs were also similar in their bolt design. Had an old 151k that was a lot of fun to shoot.
One of those was my first full auto. Mine misfed only one time with a 30-round Christie magazine full of mixed ammo. It ate up my cast bullet reloads just as well as ball.
My only issue was breaking the firing pin. Mine even broke the Christie Titanium replacement firing pin.
Being a closed bolt it fires fast. I prefer the rate of fire of the STEN or M3 Greasegun. But I couldn't buy either of those for $2800 and have it delivered to me by Dave the Mailman on my C&R FFL!
I got to run two 12 round (pressed to single stack) mags out of one. Ran like a champ, less punchy than the Thompson I'm infatuated with.
The Jar Heads batch cleaning the not 100% part interchangeable hand fitted guns were sorce of most if Marines woes.
I hated the thompson. Heavy gritty creepy trigger, very heavy, and somehow still wanting to climb. Im sure i could get uses to it with practice, but the mac 10 just bullet hosed with the supressor grip. Even better with the tungsten bolt
Yup! They’re fun to ride till your friends see you.
I don't remember if it was Seabees or Marines, but someone in the Pacific theater loved these!
@@dragonhealer7588The Marines
I was member of a gun club (Netherlands) for a year and anytime I walked on the range I'd inhale to get a good whiff of "shooter's cologne" as we jokingly called the gunpowder smell
It's like if a Thompson and an M1 carbine had a baby
The term is "mongrel"
Pure bred or mongrel they both break bones with their bites.
Yeah actually the first gun I ever converted was a 64F Savage. It's neat to see where that design originated
Forgotten Weapons did a decent video on the Reisings that also explains the problems the USMC ran into on Guadalcanal.
That’s a pretty cool box man.
I've always wanted one of those
Basements in Florida are rare. I'm 12 miles inland but only 13ft ASL.
That just makes me want to build a basement to spite nature
It's easy to forget Florida is the flattest state.
Meanwhile in Massachusetts my basement is about 14ft deep, the walls are about 5ft thick stone, and the floor is the bedrock.
Thanks for the shout out on the book, Mark!
They weren't used because of the problems Marines had with them on Guadalcanal. They weren't really suitable for combat - sand would jam them faster then any other firearm used by the Marines. The Army rejected them after a 1,000 unit order in 41.
My Gramps rode trains.in ww2.he had one..in 1962 when we moved from PA to ca..he still had it.
There’s only basements in a little over half the countries’s houses. It’s in the places to get the most snow so the soil gets a lot of frost and compresses. Then the snow melts and the soil gets washed away so you gotta have a stronger foundation.
Cool part of History love it thank you for sharing hope to see more videos of yours.
Funny that I don’t remember Gun Jesus talking about this gun, it’s right up his alley.
Many years ago I had a conversation with a guy on Usenet about why different ammo smoke smells different. He was an organic chemist with a sideline in let’s say combustibles. He said that powder chemistries are tailored to burn at different urn rates to get the desired muzzle velocity in a given barrel length constraint. So you get different sulfur and nitrogen oxides and stuff. That’s why some smell like dirt after rain, some smell like diesel exhaust, some smell like an outhouse in July.
Reloaders can probably talk more about this because they like to experiment with different powders outside their recommended uses.
I've seen those in a few movies and such, but never really looked into them. I can certainly see the advantage of having a recessed charging handle though, because that could protect it from snagging when you're walking through a dense jungle, and it'd be cheaper to produce it with a handle that reciprocates and not have to worry about injuring the user. I've never fired a 50, so I couldn't speak to its smell, but that's certainly an interesting thought that I'd like to explore.
I'd say it's a nice change to get to see one of these, since they are just not popular. Thanks for sharing. Oh, and as a Northeast Ohioan, I'm very familiar with Pittsburgh...which is why I avoid it like the plague. (Not a dig at the folks who live there, well, not all of them anyway. The psychopaths who designed the place and laid out the streets, on the other hand ...)
Those fast powders are the good smellers. Perfume.
The Reising and the Ingram M6 were on my short list until surplus dried up. Thanks for this.
slick editing and everything
My Model 50 is the smoothest sub gun I’ve ever fired. With the closed bolt and Cutts compensator I can fire it full auto and it’ll chunk ‘em out at over 800 RPM without any muzzle climb. An instructor once said that he can fire the Reising 50 from his chin without discomfort, but the Thompson would knock your teeth out.
I haven’t fired my Model 50 from the chin, but as stated above, with the low reciprocating mass of a closed bolt gun, it’ll hold right on target through a whole 30 round Christy magazine!
Appreciate you collecting this classic
Sewickley pa is about 20 from downtown Pittsburgh. A very affluent suburb of the city
That case is pretty sweet. It looks exactly of the same build quality as my World War II navy issue shoe shine box. I actually use the box to store my 1876 Dietzgen naval gun transit. It is of the exact type of transit used on the side of the great white fleets battleships. My great grandfather served on the USS New Hampshire. It’s a long long story.
I thumbs'd up that video for that joke Mark.
Fellow Yinnzer representing from the ‘Burgh 👍👍🇺🇸
Texas doesn't do basements either. I live in East TN, and I love my basement! 😂
So many familiar features for anyone who used a Savage "click-clack" 22 and the mag release design is still in use today like Savage rimfire bolt actions.
A beautiful implement
Winchester (Cooey) also shares a very similar design with their .22s. Even their bolt action 22s from that era operate with very similar mechanism and design philosophy. It certainly works; but it’s wonky and not the easiest if you want to do any kind of thorough disassembly.
Smell of gunpowder never gets old...like woodfire smell is kind of an instinct to something good
Since adding a AR 15 in 9 mm to my many guns I just really enjoy the AR in 9 mm so when KAK Industries offered a AR 15 barrel in 30 Luger I bought one and that is so fun to shoot and works great for Racoon shooting when using the FoxPro caller in river bottoms around farmland
I seen a movie about a man that was in prison and designed a weapon like that! James Stewart played the part in the movie and he built the whole thing secretly while in prison!
God, I love that case and I can smell it through my screen. Always wanted a Reising but the mag availability kills it for me. The USCG carried them at home during WW2 on the shore patrol side.
Another great wtf gun reveal to us non class 3 poor people. Thank you, Mark.
Thank you for sharing this interesting video with us six stars brother
Mopeds are fun to ride, just don't let your friends see you on one
If your friends make fun of you because of your aesthetic choices then they're not your friends.
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I have the only drum mag I've ever seen for one of those
My department had these up till the mid 1980s, they were auctioned off for princley sums
Beautiful firearm, thanks for sharing this.
Unobtanium. My dad wanted the folding stock paratrooper version of this and after a few years of waiting he got a sten mkII and a MP44 instead. Coooool old guns.
$12,000 for a little thing like this is bonkers, they need to open up new manufacture of machine guns for civilian sale.
It's a shame that YT won't let you do the multi-pew setting. I wanted to see if it jams as much as some older multi-pew guns.
Its literally the High Point Carbine of now, minus the select fire option.
No Mr. Serbu, I would ***NOT*** assume you had read the book before you made a vidja about it. :)
Can Confirm: 22LR smoke smells great. 45ACP smoke smells great. Florida residents do indeed have a marked dearth of basements.
Thanks for the vidja and all you do. Never Change!
Peaceful Skies.
9:03 it doesn't matter if you only need to pull it once aahahha
Fast burning powders typically smell great. Some of the slow burning powders with about gag you. Especially the Chinese ammunition.
I agree with the powder smell!
Two words -- historical treasure!
P.S. Bonus: F YT!
I spent about a month in Pittsburgh, and barely got out of the haunted office. I made it to Squirrel hill and Downtown.
Awesome video. Thank you for the content you make.
I'd love to get one someday. I see them around sometimes online, just don't have the funds for something so frivolous and fun.
PLEASE MR SERBU , make a semi kit ! New guts but the look
I really liked your Ar70/90 build and was hoping you'll post some updates. It seems you've deleted the series, I guess it has to do with RUclips policies. Have you posted them anywhere else? I checked rumble, didn't find them.
I love this gun, I almost bought a transferable one for 5000$ but the mags are impossible to get
Looks exactly like the guts of my savage model 64
I saw this gun in pictures and videos from WW2 and Korea and hadn't ever seen one before, i researched it and have wanted one ever since
Similar to the savage 6A family. Very cool
👍🐿👍 awesome squirrel gun.
I was all excited thinking you were in the process of reproducing this firearm!
I live in pgh Mt Lebanon in fact IAM working on a job in sewickley on Beaver St lol that
I think Colt made some rifles circa 1910 in .22 and maybe like .32 that have a plunger poking out of the forearm and that cycles the action to load the first round / clear a jam. I thin Taurus also made some reproduction.22s too. Kind of nifty things, the one I shot was a reproduction and the recoil impulse (if you can call 22 long rifle recoil an impulse) feels different from other 22s. Don’t know why but it does.
mmmm walnut and steel!
I’m from Pittsburgh. Mt. Washington-Duquesne Heights here.
I kept hearing about how much of a joke the Reising was. I got to shot one and expected a bad experience. I fire, trigger was squshy, but otherwise, it was kind of nice. In full auto, fire rate is a bit high, but totally controllable. I honestly though they should make a semi-auto version as a camp carbine, but pistol caliber carbines were not super popular yet. It would take decades before that became a common thing.
The savage 64 is what I believe you are talking about it was originally the cooey 64 then lakefield after cooey and now savage still produced at lakefield here in Ontario Canada. It probably did borrow some from here and there.
I think its the best looking smg possibly ever.
That honor still goes to the Bergmann MP18, with the M1928 Thompson in second. The Reising is classier than most even from this era, but I wouldn’t give it first by any stretch.
I have a repro of a 1934 Federal Protection catalog ...for items made by Federal Laboratories. They give their address in 1934 as 185 Forty-First Street, Pittsburgh, PA; Google street view currently shows a fairly shabby brick warehouse or depot, with most of the doors and windows blocked up. Property records show it as a "light manufacturing" site, and the current owner is a cement contractor, with a staff of "approximately 1". Federal Laboratories was sold in 1994 to Mace Security (the pepper spray guys), so that's probably the last year Federal would have operated out of that address.
I'm really surprised you aren't using hollow ground screwdrivers on such a classic firearm.
I wonder if it's the primer, the powder composition, or the burn conditions that change the smell. It seems like the higher pressure bottle-necked cartridges are the ones that don't do it for you.
I miss royal being around where is that royal rabble rouser at these days???
Howdy Mark Serbu, Gun Designer & Gun Nut, folks here.
Thank you Mark, Is that the "spark o matick" version of a cool gun?;)
I spent 5 years living on Frankstown Rd. it was awesome being in Pittsburgh during the height of the China White epidemic.
I’ll be honest, I love the reising! It’s a good cheap sub gun (as cheap as a registered machine gun goes).
They’re a ton of fun, I just wouldn’t want to carry one in combat.
Aguila 22lr smells the best. Almost sweet smelling.
I have used Federal gas guns for protection, good products
It's surprising mark didn't pull out a 9mm version of the m50 since he's into designing new guns instead of exploiting old ones 🤔me being a smart ass😏void those patents and change it a little ,then do the same with the ppsh chambered in the 22 tcm for faster cylic results 👍
Great information and review 👍😎
9:12 Gunpowder (and lead) connoisseur 🥸
I wonder if Reising had made it so the delay shelf was the back of the ejection port, would that have made it less expensive to manufacture? And would it also toss grit and debris out, instead of packing it in?
Thanks Mark🤝🤝🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I love the smell of a good gunpowder....
this one is really high on my list what to get but they are realy rare in Europe
I like mechanically interesting stuf and during ww2 there were only few submachineguns that weren't simple blowback
You can have a basment in Florida if you build it like an aquarium as if will be filled with water.
...my old (now retired in AZ) Sikorsky Aircraft buddy bought one (mid-90s) when he lived in CT - because it was relatively inexpensive...beacuse of the laws in CT - he only own a full auto weapon...not a selective fire gun...so the Reising had to have the selector welded...
I have heard they were reliable , but i think the reason they didnt become popular is mostly because the grease gun was much cheaper to make . They are much better looking
They don't have basements in Florida because the ground is only like, 7 ft thick before you hit ocean!!😂
Anyone ever seen that bit??
You can do like Demo Ranch and cover the gun with a piece of fogged out glass so ppl dont see your REALLY FAST trigger finger.
Waiting for Marks line of candles in 45 22 and shotgun scent can’t be any worse than the candle Paltrow was marketing 😂
Awesome! 👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸
I wonder if the muzzle device is for keeping barrel rise in full auto to a minimum. I'm curious as to how controllable in full auto it is compared to the tommy gun. IIRC the Reising is a bit lighter than the M1 SMG but has a much less crummy recoil angle (i.e. less prone to muzzle rise).
I remember when you could get Mack 10 converted Mack 10 machine guns for as low as 2,000 a piece now you can't touch it for less than 10. Machine gun world