Or how many shots have been taken... not sure if there is an ADB drinking game but surely one of the times you take a shot is when Deoxit is mentioned.
My rule of thumb is that if you buy a batch of anything untested or "for parts", and more than half of it works, you won. So this is an epic win. I thought it was a pretty big win when Techmoan bought a huge lot of MiniDisc players and recorders, and about 2/3 of them worked, including a couple really nice ones.
IIe and IIc were what my elementary school used long into the 90s, with a few Macs in the library. Best of times, especially when you died of dysentery.
I was never into computers or anything tech. But ever since I found your channel with the field found system, it’s very quickly becoming not only one of my favorite channels, but a subject I’m finding more and more interesting.
I guess that's why I was always kinda into them - I grew up around a lot of old systems just shoved in garages or sheds. Even 20 years ago most of them just worked, which I could _not_ say about tape decks or turntables of the same vintage! Haha
Except that when Adrian or other people extract a C64 from a pile of mud, it usually works. (there was an issue with the cursor not blinking that turned out to be a corroded CIA socket - the chip was still fine) So - C64s *must* be stored in dirt and mud if you want them to still work. If they're sitting in a controlled environment, they just die for no freaking reason.
That piece of paper thing known as the zebra paper, between the shield and the back of the motherboard on the third system definitely 100% saved that board from being destroyed by the rust. Amazing.
The board on #3 was very old. Apple figured out that they needed a crystal oscillator for the serial ports and this one didn't have it (near the middle of the board). They had a TSB (or whatever they called them) that allowed a warranty extension for anyone that had troubles with either a printer or modem to have the board replaced at Apple's expense.
The //c was my home computer as a kid too and this video was totally nostalgic. Brings back memories of learning assembly language and BASIC, calling BBSes, and even learning Unix with a dialup account I was given at the local university. Hello from Eugene!
Apple II systems are survivors ... for sure. My "barn find" apple IIe system was quite dirty, and ports fairly rusty, but eventually came right back to life. It needed a couple of capacitor replacements in the PSU and new memory chips. Keyboard came right back after a clean. Tough machines for sure!
As a Laser 128 user "back in the day" (i.e. when I was a kid), I looked down on the //c. Now the Laser is gone and I have a //c and //c+. Interesting machines.
@19:23 - Adrian connects machine #1 up to a monitor for test @33:52 - Machine #2 @44:10 - Machine #3 connected to monitor for test @52:48 - Machine #4 test
Nice find. For myself, TRS-80 programming to Apple 2e. My buddy's dad was upgrading and back in the mid 80s for a few hundred dollars had a complete system, 2 drives, color monitor, modem, parallel card etc. Lots of slots. Easy access, just lift the lid. Bard's Tale was a great game series.
I just upgraded the ROM in my Apple IIC last week. It still had the original version -1 ROM which lacked support for SmartPort disks. Better late than never!
Please do a second channel video following up on the cleanup and any retrobrighting you may decide to do on these machines, I'd love to see them all nicely restored and living their best lives :)
Wow. Great video. That's what is so awesome about these old machines. They are dinosaurs, but they just keep going !! Oddly enough, makes me want to visit barns.
These computers came from a huge haul from eastern Washington. If you're interested in seeing what else came out of that barn find, I posted a video: ruclips.net/video/cfzZG1dkJ_I/видео.html
I wish i still had mine, nostalgia here. Also, how reliable they are, Woz if you are reading, you are the man. The headbanging drives is your signature. Mine had the Alps keyb, from 87.
Hi Adrian, really enjoyed this video. It's great to see machines that might not survive get a restoration or at least some love. I think I did guess correctly that 4 apple iis would be working they're so reliable. I am also very pleased with a t-shirt I ordered from your online store. I can now watch the basement feeling like I'm there too as we take a look 'on the bench'. I hope this helps support channel in some small way. Ed
You have basically shown us all again that there is no such thing as trash retro computers based on appearance alone, and that e-waste should be a last resort following some basic clean and inspect work plus testing. I figured there were maybe 3 parts computers and one working made from them out the total 4 Apples. And like the IBMs and Commodores of old, the Apples just worked. Great video!
I got interrupted several times today trying to watch this video, so here I am, starting from where I left off. That No. 1 machine looked to have a Rifa cap that might need to be replaced (or was that the DC/DC converter?) Man... can't believe all four of these boards actually still worked! Thanks again, man.
I got a parts 800xl off ebay and it had rust all on the shielding to the edge of the motherboard. The top and bottom of the shield was rust orange along with the parts of the motherboard. I had to de-oxit the sockets, but it still worked! The keyboard membrane was rust orange, but once cleaned it worked too!!! Those 80's machines are great.
I love the IIc (amazing industrial design) - I still have mine from 1986 and it still functions perfectly. I would love to see a video of you bringing these back to good working condition.
While I never owned one (but my computer camp friend did!), I think the Apple //c with its little 9" inch display has the best atheistics of all the classic era PCs.
This guys videos are so awesome it's so cool learning classic computing and how these things are tackled it's a nice break from the modern computers I work in. Thanks Adrian for the absolutely amazing videos this is stuff that should be a paid TV show so happy we get this content have a nice weekend
I really enjoyed spending time in your dirty apple dungeon! Amazing that they all worked, well done. But then, these computers were thousands of dollars in 1984, not hundreds like the ZX Spectrums we had in the UK. All of my speccies have issues!
Oh yeah. I have to watch this one later today. I too have a literal barn find Apple IIc complete with the elusive Iic color monitor which both, of course, are not in working condition... can't wait to watch this when the wife takes a nap.
8 minutes in, just gonna say that considering the work, blood, sweat and tears many a single computer has given you, that you nonchalantly take all 4 in is absolutely fearless. Legend.
man those IIc's are troopers! i know they are relatively simple in design, but it is amazing they were sitting in some barn somewhere for decades and they just work. that is way cool. Thank you Adrian!
These are some of my favorite videos. You get hold of some machines everyone else would have given up op. And give them many new years. Simply amazing❤ I hope these are not just stored away though but transferred to someone who would actually use them?
Hi Adrian, could you please do a “pimp my amiga” series? A series taking a 500 or similar from absolute standard to all the possible/amazing/modern upgrades available? I think this would really help some newbies like me with getting the most out of our computer with all the modern convenience etc :) thanks heaps, your channel is by far my most favorite tech spot, right up there with Curious Mark! :)
Man you are so freaking lucky. I would love to have a crusty nasty apple 2 cross my bench, exactly like that. It would be such a fun repair and restoration.
I love the IIc, as we had them at school. I have one and a green screen monitor, like we had a school and love it. Masquerade (adventure game) was a favourite! Just got a SDrive ][ for it 😊
Good to see that all these units needed is a bit of a clean. Have fun doin it :D On the downside: no additional "repair" videos about these machines...
I had a Laser 128EX as a kid, but i remember seeing an Apple 2C at school and was a bit jealous 😅. And the LCs we used a little later in high school were nice.
I love Apple //cs. It was the 2nd computer I ever owned, and I had the early revision 1983/84 model. I kept it all the way through my college days (mid-90s) and it disappeared after that. Not sure what happened to it or where it went. I bought another //c about 2 years ago and fully restored and modified it with a mockingboard 4c and a Fujinet and it works great. I would love to see more //c videos and //c modification vids.
I bought mine in 1986 in OKC when I was stationed at Ticker AFB. Done have it, but I managed to replace it and the GS I lost to time. Will have space to set them up eventually
Deox-it really needs to sponsor some digital basement episodes, I can't imagine how many bottles have been sold just based on Adrian's promoting it!
Or how many shots have been taken... not sure if there is an ADB drinking game but surely one of the times you take a shot is when Deoxit is mentioned.
Great
He needs a 50 gallon drum of the stuff
Deoxit is amazing, and yes I’m glad for Adrian, because he’s the reason I have several bottles of the stuff.
I've bought two cans and literally learned about it from him.
You should frame that striped paper. Looks like a work of art.
You won the "parts machine" lottery!
My rule of thumb is that if you buy a batch of anything untested or "for parts", and more than half of it works, you won. So this is an epic win. I thought it was a pretty big win when Techmoan bought a huge lot of MiniDisc players and recorders, and about 2/3 of them worked, including a couple really nice ones.
The roulette is still spinning! 😅
Hoping you do a cleaning / restoration video on these!
Agreed
The zebra rust is a surprisingly good work of art!
Yeah I was actually thinking he should frame it and put it on the wall as a conversation starter. :)
I was going to say that. Frame it!
But before that, scan it and share the image. Might make a cool wallpaper. 😂
That is what i was thinking, Adrian should take a nice high res photo and use it as a desktop image lol
+1, frame it.
I also came to the comments to say he should frame the zebra art.
Incredible how some systems are so fragile, yet some like these are virtually immortal. Congrats on the nice machines!
The secret: don't use any MOS Technology, Inc. (Commodore Semiconductor Group) custom ICs.
@@winstonsmith478 That and the power supply that actually regulates the voltage and does not try to kill the machine -if- when capacitors dry up.
I'm at 43 minutes and I'm totally invested in seeing the cleanup. That's gotta be a huge pile of rust and dust and random crap.
I was wondering when we would get another "pc left to rust on the bottom of the ocean" videos. Love 'em. ❤
27:43 wasn't expecting the screenshot from my dear friend Esteban's game. He coded that when he was a teen. He's since passed - RIP Esteban.
Amazing! But we want to see the cleaning too!
IIe and IIc were what my elementary school used long into the 90s, with a few Macs in the library. Best of times, especially when you died of dysentery.
Torque Test Channel is a great channel. I've been very happy with choosing tools that they have tested.
I was never into computers or anything tech. But ever since I found your channel with the field found system, it’s very quickly becoming not only one of my favorite channels, but a subject I’m finding more and more interesting.
Before you know, you will be collecting retro systems you never had! 😊
I guess that's why I was always kinda into them - I grew up around a lot of old systems just shoved in garages or sheds. Even 20 years ago most of them just worked, which I could _not_ say about tape decks or turntables of the same vintage! Haha
I'd frame one of those rusted papers, I enjoy weird organic art like that!
Hopefully none of them will stop working after cleaning. Tough old units!
Ahhh. Sunday morning, a rainstorm outside, youtube running a new episode of Adrians Digital basement and coffe is ready. Life is good...
Incredible that they refuse to bite the dust, despite all they've been through. Great stuff!
They swollowed a lot of the dust though. LOL
My first computer was an Apple //c back in 1984 and have a TON of good memories. Really enjoyed this video.
C64 videos: "Is it actually possible that one of these computers isn't broken?"
Apple II videos: "Is it even possible to kill these things?"
Except that when Adrian or other people extract a C64 from a pile of mud, it usually works.
(there was an issue with the cursor not blinking that turned out to be a corroded CIA socket - the chip was still fine)
So - C64s *must* be stored in dirt and mud if you want them to still work. If they're sitting in a controlled environment, they just die for no freaking reason.
That piece of paper thing known as the zebra paper, between the shield and the back of the motherboard on the third system definitely 100% saved that board from being destroyed by the rust. Amazing.
The board on #3 was very old. Apple figured out that they needed a crystal oscillator for the serial ports and this one didn't have it (near the middle of the board). They had a TSB (or whatever they called them) that allowed a warranty extension for anyone that had troubles with either a printer or modem to have the board replaced at Apple's expense.
This brings a whole new meaning to the old saying, "They don't make 'em like they used to".
The //c was my home computer as a kid too and this video was totally nostalgic. Brings back memories of learning assembly language and BASIC, calling BBSes, and even learning Unix with a dialup account I was given at the local university. Hello from Eugene!
This is an amazing episode. Can't believe there was not a broken chip or corroded pcb trace in that pile of poor little IIcs
I was totally surprised they all worked fine. That is very cool they did.
Would be awesome to see an episode seeing these getting cleaned up and running like new.
Apple II systems are survivors ... for sure. My "barn find" apple IIe system was quite dirty, and ports fairly rusty, but eventually came right back to life. It needed a couple of capacitor replacements in the PSU and new memory chips. Keyboard came right back after a clean.
Tough machines for sure!
Very cool video and story around these old computer. Thanks
As a Laser 128 user "back in the day" (i.e. when I was a kid), I looked down on the //c. Now the Laser is gone and I have a //c and //c+. Interesting machines.
Well done No.3 you earned your stripes
Love your videos, Adrian! They are informative and entertaining!
@19:23 - Adrian connects machine #1 up to a monitor for test
@33:52 - Machine #2
@44:10 - Machine #3 connected to monitor for test
@52:48 - Machine #4 test
Nice find. For myself, TRS-80 programming to Apple 2e. My buddy's dad was upgrading and back in the mid 80s for a few hundred dollars had a complete system, 2 drives, color monitor, modem, parallel card etc. Lots of slots. Easy access, just lift the lid.
Bard's Tale was a great game series.
This is my favorite format
It's amazing what a quality-built product can withstand! Thanks for another fun video
Great comment, so true.
I just upgraded the ROM in my Apple IIC last week. It still had the original version -1 ROM which lacked support for SmartPort disks. Better late than never!
So nostalgic! I miss our family's //c which I still had setup and connected until it was lost in August of last year.
I'm a IIc enthusiast, love that you found and rescue these beauties!
My gosh I had so much fun watching this! I can't believe they all pretty much work. I didn't know apple IIc's were so reliable
Adrian's Dirty Basement
I can't believe that. Awesome. What a find.
Freakin' awesome, I'm really really looking forward to seeing clean up and restoration video
My first Apple was a //c, still have it! Thanks love seeing the inside of all those dirty computers.
Awesome find! Perfect way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the IIc!
I always loved the keyboards on these Apple IIc computers. They had such a satisfying click and key travel.
Please do a second channel video following up on the cleanup and any retrobrighting you may decide to do on these machines, I'd love to see them all nicely restored and living their best lives :)
Wow. Great video. That's what is so awesome about these old machines. They are dinosaurs, but they just keep going !! Oddly enough, makes me want to visit barns.
incredible video. honestly was shocked at the success rate.
Unbelievable robustness in those old Apple IIs! I have quite a few newer computers that just gave up the ghost. A golden age in some ways.
These computers came from a huge haul from eastern Washington. If you're interested in seeing what else came out of that barn find, I posted a video: ruclips.net/video/cfzZG1dkJ_I/видео.html
Love this kind of video! It is like an old car revival.
I wish i still had mine, nostalgia here. Also, how reliable they are, Woz if you are reading, you are the man. The headbanging drives is your signature. Mine had the Alps keyb, from 87.
Hi Adrian, really enjoyed this video. It's great to see machines that might not survive get a restoration or at least some love. I think I did guess correctly that 4 apple iis would be working they're so reliable. I am also very pleased with a t-shirt I ordered from your online store. I can now watch the basement feeling like I'm there too as we take a look 'on the bench'. I hope this helps support channel in some small way. Ed
Nice found and lovely machines Adrian. I love your content as well. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
Love seeing Apple IIc videos. I had one too!
As I saw the machines first time, I never thought that a single one of those would work. Really survivours. As always, a cool Video. Thumbs up!
I'd love to see how those machines turns out after cleaning. Nice Video, Adrian.
Very awesome find Adrian. You must be living right! 🎉
You have basically shown us all again that there is no such thing as trash retro computers based on appearance alone, and that e-waste should be a last resort following some basic clean and inspect work plus testing. I figured there were maybe 3 parts computers and one working made from them out the total 4 Apples. And like the IBMs and Commodores of old, the Apples just worked. Great video!
Very fitting seeing this today, as last night I rewatched your old field found C64C video from before you had your intro.
big thanks, i just love computer archeology! :-)
Like you, my first computer that was mine alone was a //c, so I share your soft spot for them. I'm fortunate to still have mine.
I got interrupted several times today trying to watch this video, so here I am, starting from where I left off. That No. 1 machine looked to have a Rifa cap that might need to be replaced (or was that the DC/DC converter?) Man... can't believe all four of these boards actually still worked! Thanks again, man.
As an Atari household, I only used one of these in elementary school, but I’ve got vivid memories of using them for Oregon Trail.
I got a parts 800xl off ebay and it had rust all on the shielding to the edge of the motherboard. The top and bottom of the shield was rust orange along with the parts of the motherboard. I had to de-oxit the sockets, but it still worked! The keyboard membrane was rust orange, but once cleaned it worked too!!! Those 80's machines are great.
I'm looking forward to seeing the full restoration of each of these machines. Apple knew how to build them back in the day!
I love the IIc (amazing industrial design) - I still have mine from 1986 and it still functions perfectly. I would love to see a video of you bringing these back to good working condition.
The 2c is the only Apple 2 machine I've owned and i regret selling it.. Another great video thanks
Just goes to show the quality and reliability of earlier electronics I doubt weather modern stuff would fair so well. Good work as always Adrian. 👍
You should totally make a video on cleaning these things.
While I never owned one (but my computer camp friend did!), I think the Apple //c with its little 9" inch display has the best atheistics of all the classic era PCs.
This guys videos are so awesome it's so cool learning classic computing and how these things are tackled it's a nice break from the modern computers I work in. Thanks Adrian for the absolutely amazing videos this is stuff that should be a paid TV show so happy we get this content have a nice weekend
I really enjoyed spending time in your dirty apple dungeon! Amazing that they all worked, well done. But then, these computers were thousands of dollars in 1984, not hundreds like the ZX Spectrums we had in the UK. All of my speccies have issues!
Wow, this will clean up nicely
lucky you great computer stuff
Oh yeah. I have to watch this one later today. I too have a literal barn find Apple IIc complete with the elusive Iic color monitor which both, of course, are not in working condition... can't wait to watch this when the wife takes a nap.
8 minutes in, just gonna say that considering the work, blood, sweat and tears many a single computer has given you, that you nonchalantly take all 4 in is absolutely fearless. Legend.
man those IIc's are troopers! i know they are relatively simple in design, but it is amazing they were sitting in some barn somewhere for decades and they just work. that is way cool. Thank you Adrian!
I just bought and repaired one of those. Orderen in Aegypt for a decent price. I fell in love with it.
These are some of my favorite videos. You get hold of some machines everyone else would have given up op. And give them many new years. Simply amazing❤ I hope these are not just stored away though but transferred to someone who would actually use them?
Hi Adrian, could you please do a “pimp my amiga” series? A series taking a 500 or similar from absolute standard to all the possible/amazing/modern upgrades available? I think this would really help some newbies like me with getting the most out of our computer with all the modern convenience etc :) thanks heaps, your channel is by far my most favorite tech spot, right up there with Curious Mark! :)
Man you are so freaking lucky. I would love to have a crusty nasty apple 2 cross my bench, exactly like that. It would be such a fun repair and restoration.
I love the IIc, as we had them at school. I have one and a green screen monitor, like we had a school and love it. Masquerade (adventure game) was a favourite! Just got a SDrive ][ for it 😊
Just noticed the Maccy sticker on your bottle and went "woooow" much as he does :)
That's pretty darned impressive how long they lasted.
its amazing how reliable those PC's are even in that condition
Good to see that all these units needed is a bit of a clean.
Have fun doin it :D
On the downside: no additional "repair" videos about these machines...
That was four strikes of luck, Adrian! You’ll have fun determining which parts to use for working machines!
I had a Laser 128EX as a kid, but i remember seeing an Apple 2C at school and was a bit jealous 😅. And the LCs we used a little later in high school were nice.
Nice machines, I really like mine ! 😁
oooh, that was my favorite Apple!
Very impressive!
I love Apple //cs. It was the 2nd computer I ever owned, and I had the early revision 1983/84 model. I kept it all the way through my college days (mid-90s) and it disappeared after that. Not sure what happened to it or where it went. I bought another //c about 2 years ago and fully restored and modified it with a mockingboard 4c and a Fujinet and it works great. I would love to see more //c videos and //c modification vids.
Amazing.. Nice content - for a C=64 / Intel guy - Thanks
Love it, makes me smile!😁
Epitronics is drooling for those Apple //c's. He loves the Amber alps key switches.
Lol you'll be finding pine needles for weeks! That was a good time.
What great fun 😊
I bought mine in 1986 in OKC when I was stationed at Ticker AFB. Done have it, but I managed to replace it and the GS I lost to time. Will have space to set them up eventually
absolute tanks...
seeing those machines in that state hurts my soul!