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There is nothing wrong with the M1 Carbine. Used as it was intended, it was adequate for the job. All too often you see the Carbine compared to the M1 Garand. Two completely different weapons for two completely different jobs. The Garand was a Main Battle Rifle and the carbine was intended more or less for close in combat. The Carbine was initially intended to replace the M1911 pistol as a side arm. It wound up being issued to crew served weapons crews such as Mortars and Machine guns, truck drivers and such who would be hard pressed to use a full size battle rifle.
Correct. The concept of a Personal Defense Weapon isn't new. This was the US Army's version 80 years ago. It could also be thought of as an intermediate cartridge weapon, similar to the Stg-44 in function, though without the full-auto capability (until later).
@@waynecoulter6761 Correct. My Father was one of the original 3,000 volunteers to join Merrill's Marauders. He had plenty of experience with the M1 Carbine and wasn't impressed with it's effectiveness on stopping Japs. He survived that campaign, only to get his left leg shot off in Korea. Retired DAV as a MSGT. God rest his soul.
I know a vietnam vet whose preferred firearm was the m1 carbine. He continued to carry it as his duty rifle when he became the county sheriff. Swore by it.
M1 Carbine was very popular in Vietnam. Audie Murphy carried one, he would pop the Germans in the forehead. Read his book, to hell & back. In the Pacific. Some Marines liked the knock down of the Garand. Some liked the light weight fast follow up shots with the carbine. M1 Carbine was a liked rifle for over 40 years of wars. Still has a place today. One of my favorite rifles. More so getting older, due to the light weight, low recoil. Add reflex sight & light, great home defence, with 30 round mag.
My granddad also carried one as a Bonner County Sheriff in Idaho. He referred to it as his truck rifle and was happy when he retired and only used it to dispatch animals hit by vehicles. He loved that rifle and his life depended on it if ever needed. I grew up shooting them almost every weekend as it went out to the range every trip. It is 1942 Inland Carbine he left to me with the rest of them. He also had a Saginaw, IBM, a Underwood Typewriter Company, and a Rock-Ola Manufacturing Corporation M1’s. These have been some of my favorite rifles since childhood and I’d never get rid of any one of them as they all have just a little bit of a different personality and just feel a bit different when shooting. With the same ammo the Inland will definitely shoot about 1/2” tighter groups than the standard 2-21/2” groups they all average at 100 yards.
I was an Infantry advisor with MAC-V in Binh Dinh province in the Vietnam war. I carried an M2 version of this thing, it was pretty awesome for my entire year. As an alternative, I tried a Thompson (too heavy, and the .45 ammo weighed a ton) I then tried a "grease gun" it never worked properly. I came back to the carbine every time. The only reason I tried to get away from it was the selector switch never worked to engage full auto, and I was 275 Km away from the arms room!! Over all, my evaluation is that if the shooter is intelligent in selecting the aim-point, the carbine will do the rest!
The first time I handled a Thompson, I was shocked on how heavy it was! I guess they made men differently during WWII! The M16 was like handling a BB gun.
@@2-old-Forthischet My Drill Instructors (MCRD San Diego 1975) called the M16 the "Matty Mattel" (as in toy gun). All of our DIs completed multiple tours in Viet Nam (they carried the M-14). From 1966 to 1970, my senior DI, Staff Sgt. McCormick, completed 4 tours in Viet Nam. Sgt. McCormick had nothing good to say about the M16.
@@guaporeturns9472 You wouldnt want to sit around for 20 extra minutes of pauses, down time, etc. It's always going to be edited, but I leave misses in. 4:07
I just checked out the site you mentioned...$1850 for a "VG" condition M1 Carbine!?!? Holy cow. The first rifle I ever bought was an M1 Carbine (Inland division of General Motors), in "Very Good" condition, for $150. That was the going rate for VG condition carbines back then. My "expensive" Lee Enfield Number 5 Mk 1, in excellent condition cost me $250. I'm blown away by how high the prices are going on military rifles.
About 15 years ago, these were around $500 dollars, I regret not buying one back then. My first purchases were a Mosin for $99 and an SKS for $299. Now they are 2-3x, even 4x the price. Its crazy.
In about 1963 I paid about 20 dollars plus shipping for and M1 Carbine from the old DCM when the NRA was able to offer as the middleman direct sales from the US Gov to civilian NRA members.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Gee why do you think the price is so crazy expensive? Stop spending so much for these things. People like yourself ruined the market, especially the civilian marksmanship program which was never supposed to be overcharging. What you spent on that rifle is shameful and stops other Americans from owning firearms. Well done.
@@MrJedi5150 👍👍 I try to avoid mentioning or "promoting" websites like that in video. I get toyed with by RUclips a lot, It's been fun learning their game😥
My dad made all 4 combat jumps with the 82nd in WWII. He preferred the Carbine above all other weapons. Could carry a lot of ammo and still had room for an extra canteen. Said he was always thirsty. Said it stopped people just fine.
My dad was a drill Sargent at fort Benning, Georgia, during Korea. He loved the carbine. He said it was the only rife a airborne man ever needed. He loved how much ammo one man could carry.
It was my understanding that it was more of a replacement for the .45 1911 that officers carried. They didn't have to lug around the Garand, but the pistol was deemed ineffective for the battlefield. The M1 Carbine was the compromise. That's how it was explained to me.
Yes, that was the intention but most who were issued carbines also carried a .45 as a backup anyway. When I served in the 82d, it was still policy for weapons squad (M60 crews) to carry a sidearm as well as the platoon leader and platoon sgt
The M1 carbine wasn't meant to replace the Garand. So, yeah, it was marginal as a battle rifle It was meant to replace pistols for those whose primary duties didn't have them carrying a rifle. Officers, tankers, etc. Easier to shoot effectively than a pistol, and didn't mark the user as a primary target.
Audie Murphy recovered, repaired and carried one. He fondly recalled the serial number 20 years after the war. That guy was most definitely a front line man
@@mattburnett4185 He also claimed he wore out several Thompson sub machine guns. What I am thinking we dealt with was a media that quoted everything without challenging anything. His most famous incident actually involved a Browning .50 M2.
My dad made all 4 jumps with the 82nd. He preferred the carbine , and he was as front line as it gets. Likes it because he could carry a lot of ammo and had room for an extra canteen. Said it stopped enemy combatants just fine
Of course it replaced the garand. My father trained with the garand in basic training in 1943 but was issued the carbine when he went to New Guinea. They have a 15 round magazine but he said they would modify them by welding them together to make 30 and 45 round magazines.
That's crazy we used to get those for $125.00 in the 80s. When Mosin nagants where 39.99, and sks where 79.95. Crazy. If I could go back in time and stock up.
@@toxicmatrix1337 I knew a guy staying in my rooming house in Galveston. He was in the Coast Guard. He wanted to sell me an M-14 for 100 dollars in 83. I turned it down. Still kicking myself about that!
From what I understand, most soldiers loved the M1 Carbine, especially in the Pacific because of how light, nimble, and capable it was. Might struggle to reach out past iunno maybe 300 yards, but most engagements happened within that range.
My dad was in Vietnam, and he said a lot of guys still carried those. Many of them preferred them to M-16s because they were reliable and easy to shoot. In thick jungle the range of 5.56x45mm was irrelevant, and M1 Carbines tended to fare very well in denser brush.
The US Special Forces in Nam found that the low velocity of the 30 cal bullet did far more damage than the high velocity M14 round which went through too fast. It's only disadvantage was range which was not a problem in the jungle, It was standard issue in Air defense units in the 60s. I loved it. Makes a great short range deer rifle.
Bullshit. You watch too many cartoons. The .30 carbine round is little more than a .357 magnum out of a rifle barrel. It doesn't even remotely come close the kinetic energy of a 7.62x51mm round. It doesn't "do more damage". That is asinine. You can do your own research on the statistical probability of surviving a upper thoracic shot from a 158 gr. .357 magnum, versus a 147 gr. .308 round.
Good video. Some crew chiefs on slicks in NAM, carried M2 carbine pistols that were very handy when you went down. It was carried with 2 - 15 round magazines in the pistol and several 30 round mags in pockets.There were rubber caps to go on the ends of magazines to keep them clean. One buddy said that he went down 3 times and the M2 saved his life because it was strapped to him and didn't get lost when he was thrown a distance from the bird. He was able to use it to hold off the bad guys until rescue made it to him. The M1 carbine was sold surplus in the early 1960s for only $20 and were popular with deer hunters. Good Luck, Rick
@@toxicmatrix1337 He was but, he paid the price that most vets pay. The nightmares came most nights. He died about 20 years ago. I'm not sure if it was agent orange or too much alcohol.
My dad was discharged from the Army in 1958, he was able to buy his 2 favorite firearms through an NRA program. He bought his favorite sidearm, (he was an MP) a colt 1911 for $21.00, and his favorite rifle ( the M1 carbine made by Singer, for $19.00).
What’s really sad is remembering seeing these at the LA County Fair Grounds Gun Show back in the late 80’s and early nineties selling for between $69 to $89.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Dang indeed! Back in the early nineties when I still lived in Southern California there was a large gun store selling British Enfield rifles for $79.95 to $99.95! Now they’re $700 to over $1k in some instances.
It can blow your mind how cheap and easy it used to be. My father brought home a carbine on the NYC subway. He paid $35. I recently brought the 1941 Johnson that my father bought for $69 dollars for a good cleaning and going through. He used it for deer hunting and I used it for plinking . The gunsmith smiled and said he used to see them in barrels in hardware stores for $10. I recently saw a YT video where a guy had bought an estate and mentioned a price for the Johnson that amazed me.
@@pasqualelibassi8054 My brother in law bought an 1862 model Spencer repeating carbine from Martin B. Redding Gun Store in Culver City California for $65 in 1965 and the store gun the guns in a barrel so you could pick the one you wanted. Because the Spencer was rim fire and ammo hadn’t been produced for it since the nineteen twenties his Dad who was a master machinist milled a center fire block fit it and turned a firing pin for it on his lathe and my brother in law trimmed down and formed 50-70 brass and loaded his own ammo. It was a hoot to shoot and he still has the gun.
Accuracy does not diminish with age as long as arm is properly stored / maintained and proper cartridges are available or handloaded. Well kept vintage Mannlicher Schoenauers are incredibly accurate.
Growing up in the 70’s I had a family friend that was a Marine officer on Okinawa that carried the M1 carbine. He claimed that within 100 yds you couldn’t tell the difference in a wound from the M1 carbine ant the M1 Garand. This man also carried a M2 carbine in the landing at Inchon during the Korean War. He said other than a couple of Chinese human wave attacks he never used it on full auto. The poor stopping power reports came mostly from Korea where poorly trained troops relied on full auto rather than effectively aimed fire. Meaning there was a whole lot of missing going on.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Yes & no. Reports from doctors from every war. Clearly state hitting a vital organ is more important than caliber size. Yet, fmj putting a small hole in an arm, compared to hollow point, doing more muscle damage, can incapacitate better.
It's pretty unlikely that carillo was using JHP. He was an active officer from the 50s to the 70s. JHP was viewed pretty differently in that era than it is today and was not common.
@@ColonelSandersLite actually, he did use hollowpoints in his M1 Carbine. I know this because Jim told me so. He said the M1 Carbine never let him down---those he shot with it stayed down. He was wont to make his own bullets, and held several patents on bullet designs. Murphy, on the other hand used GI issue FMJ.
Grew up around a lot of WW2 Vets as a kid. One even let me use his M1 when we boys were playing guns. No firing pin or they wouldn't let him take it home. I've always wanted one myself ever since then. Still do and I'm now 62. Have no clue how to get one these days. Especially one that works! That's why I clicked on this video. "Ordered an M1 Carbine" read and I was hooked. Still don't know how to get one but,... sure is nice to see someone did and it's in such great shape! Thanks for the Post!! Brought back memories!
Thank you! I got this at J&G Sales online. If you have a C&R license you can get it shipped straight to you. Its basically an FFL for collectors, you can skip a trip to an FFL dealer. No 4473 to fill out, no transfer fees 👍👍
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Yep. Found that one quickly. Was always told that rifle you could bet your life on. Have to take into consideration the source too. They had to and it never failed them. Seen the prices on the old ones. OMG they're asking a lot!
Former Marine Corp Veteran (24) yrs) here, also a marksmanship instructor. The M1 Carbine would be a great un-close effective rifle. The M1 Garand will always be a fantastic long range rifle. A few of us used them in Vietnam with a 9x39 snipers scope, along with Remington 700's and the Garand always held up well. Thanks for the memory. SEMPER FI !!!
When you consider that the Carbine was meant to be a substitute for troops that didn't need a rifle, but still needed a weapon. It's literally to give support troops a longer range pistol.
My favorite hunting rifle was easily the least accurate one I owned. It was a ruger Mini 30. 6" at a hundred yards. My buddy had the little carbine you have, and they both were a joy to shoot. We hunted mostly in patchy brush and forest, and didn't need to make the long 300 yard shots. You could carry it all day and have a pocket full of ammo, and didn't need a scope. We honed our quick snap shooting techniques on jackrabbits, and those same skills translated to the brief glances you got of a buck moving through brush. The little 30 cal ruger was about as powerful as the Carbine. Had a scope and pulled it off because of the time you needed for target acquisition. And it would take the lungs right out of a running deer. In the 80's and 90's, surplus ammo made shooting both carbines about as cheep as .22. except for the deer loads with the rounded bullwts. We all sell the guns we should of kept. No one misses their first wife, but we sure miss our good guns.
I bought one 30yrs ago from a department-store. Anytime I take it to the range everyone wants shoot it . I took two deer last year with using soft point ammo . Brownell's carries a scout scope mount that replaces the upper barrel cover , really enhances accuracy.
I checked those out when I grabbed it. I was thinking about ordering one, but I kind of put it off. I've been really wanting to run iron sights, I forgot how good this style is. They have to be my favorite.
I purchased my Inland back in 1997 for $200.00 and it's my favorite rifle. I worked in the firearms industry for over 20 years and have dozens of other higher power rifles. However my M1 Carbine is my only true "Weapon of War" and the only rifle that has a story I wish could be told.
I used to have one . The .30 Mi Carbine has the same Muzzle Energy as the .357 Mag. in the same 110 grain bullet weight and can be reloaded with the same Gunpowder. I used to reload it with H110 Gunpowder . These days I use the same Bullets and powder to reload the 300 Blackout supersonic loads. They were usually issued to Officers ,Tankers and Artillery due to the need to work in small spaces and carry Heavy Artillery and Tank Shells .
David Marshall Williams (November 13, 1900 - January 8, 1975) was an American firearms designer and convicted murderer who invented the floating chamber and the short-stroke gas piston. Both designs used the high-pressure gas generated in or near the breech of the firearm to operate the action of semi-automatic firearms like the M1 Carbine. James Stewart played him in the movie Carbine Williams
I have a my Dads M1 carbine that he bought from the government back in the 60's. He bought 2 for $50 each. Mine has never been messed with as my mom refinished hers. I Used it to hunt all day hiking the bush in Michigan. Very light weight and you can easily carry it for 8 hours hiking and hunting with no worries. Just don't shoot too far away and not through stuff that may deflect your shot.
Correct me if I'm wrong, the M1 carbine was for non infantry. In other words admin type troops, tank crewman, artillery crew etc. I have heard that it is a great weapon and very hard hitting if your shooting 100 yards or less and possibly up to 200. I have heard it hits like a sledge hammer at the closer distances. I would say it is almost ideal for CQB/urban warfare.
Ive been hearing it was pretty much a longer range option over a pistol for support troops. That ending battle in Saving Private Ryan would be ideal for the M1. Pretty much everyone was within 100-200 yards.
Got my first Carbine in 1992. I paid a lot for a like new non import late production Inland for 550. Still have it. I have had my C&R since 1989. Enjoy your carbine.
An easy way to think about it's power is that it is the same as a .357 mag at point blank when the .30 carbine is at 100 yards. Read that somewhere in an old hunting book when they discussed it being effective on deer or not. The answer was yes with a caveat on range of 220 yards or thereabouts.
I used to have one in 1980 and I brought a lots of old gun i like without being screwed with FFL dealer that refused to order anything except what they have at their price. When Clinton was in WH and accused an FFL as a root cause of gun crime, I was forced to surrender my FFL to ATF after thwe passage of Crime Bills in 1994.
I believe that the 30 caliber carbine rounds reputation using military hard ball bullets was for making a small round hole without incapacitating an opponent. A Vietnam vet, an adviser, who used one in combat told me that it took 5 - 7 hits to stop an enemy. Maybe that's why the army's newest 9 mm handgun holds 17 shots. A civilian's 9 mm modern bullet is designed to expand to 1.5 times the original diameter to .53 inches, not to over penitrate. 1000 foot pounds is not delivered to the target if the bullet goes through it and out the other side.
If this was launching HPs, im sure that would be devastating. They do make defensive ammo for 30 carbine but its pretty expensive and definitely not standard issue.
My Dad was a Bombardier on B-17 for 52 missions over Europe and North Africa. He was issued a M1 Carbine and he said he loved it . SADLY he sold it before I was born. But I am still proud of him for serving in the Army Air Corps from April 1942 till VE day.
The 30 carbine was actually intended to be a replacement for the 45 acp. Those soldiers who needed to be armed, but DIDN'T need a Garand battle rifle. Why? Because EVERYONE is more accurate with a rifle compared to the inherent difficulty of becoming accurate with a handgun. That's why the design parameters specified "5 pounds or less" - along with compactness and ease of use. The 30 carbine met parameters 1000%. The "problems" that plagued it after introduction were purely due to misuse. Namely expecting it to function like the Garand (it's NOT a thousand yard rifle), along with hot weather deterants in ammo being used in minus 20F weather. My uncle used one in Korea. They stripped ALL the oils, lubed with graphite, and kept the mags UNDER their parkas. The soldiers who did that had a good gun. Actually, my uncle carried both. He said that when the enemy got within 100 yards, he dropped his Garand and used the carbine. 15 or 30 shots were MUCH better than the 8 in the Garand. The 30 carbine is an EXCELLENT rifle when used appropriately.
You can still get M1 Rifles delivered to your door. And if you are lucky enough ( and have the money ) you can have an M1 Carbine delivered to you door if you win one on the CMP auctions. But there haven't been any up recently. FedEx guy knows what is being delivered by the weight and size. Except when I got a .50 cal. Scope. That one had him baffled.
@@gravelydon7072 The CMP program is pretty cool, unfortunately a decent amount of restriction has been put in place. Some states require a transfer from an FFL or a C&R is required.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Yep, states like NY and CA are known for that kind of problem. Florida is not so mine come direct. The 1911s though had to have background checks before shipping and they had to go to an FFL who then had to do another background check. Even a C&R license isn't good enough for them.
My father was a MP in Europe in WW2. During the battle of the bulge he carried a M1 carbine. He liked the carbine for its weight but he said that the Garand was the best weapon he ever fired. He also carried the M3 grease gun but wasn’t a fan.
I bought one about 40 years ago for @$120 from a little shop in rural Missouri. IBM and other parts - typical of them. Shoots great and I still love it.
I love mine. I recommend you buy the bolt take down tool now before you need it. Also get the gas piston wrench and a set of spare bolt springs. When the bolt does eventually get fouled it needs to be taken down and it's impossible w/o the jig.
It was never intended to compete with the M1 or other main battle rifle. It was intended as more powerful, easier to shoot, longer range and more accurate replacement for the 45, for tank crews and such, being vastly lighter and handier than the Garand (or any later main battle rifle.) At that it excelled and is still pretty darn good. It was mostly liked for those reasons in WW2. It started to get a poor reputation among some troops in Korea because it was cold and the enemy was often wearing heavy winter coats and it lacked penetration. A friend's uncle carried one in WW2 in the Philippines. For that environment it's great. My friend still has that one his uncle carried. I have shot it. How awesome is that?
They were issued a an alternative to sidearms for officers,soldiers and Marines in jobs where the Garand wasn’t practical. My Father was in Regimental Weapons Company of the 9th Marines in WW2 PTO. He carried both a 45acp and an M1 Carbine depending on what he was firing at the time. Mortars or 37mm cannon. He said they had some Banzai charges where any weapon from cannon to knife was very welcome.
It depends to who you ask. If you’re walking across Europe a lot would rather have had the carbine from what I’ve heard from Vets. The only problem was that metallurgy wasn’t as up to snuff as they should have been. The magazines were pretty much disposable otherwise they would have a lot of problems with hangups.
*updated reply* People are assuming you can get a firearm without a firearms license or if you are ineligible in a red state(felon). Is that what you are saying? Because thats definitely not what I am implying. You need a state issued license, or not have a felony in a free state. I thought that was a given, that is my target I am trying to reach. I offer plenty of options for people who cant get any firearms though. Im just not sure how anyone would think you are getting a firearm mailed to you like its a loophole for those that cant get one in a store.
@@liggerstuxin1 Correct, I mentioned you dont need a Dealer FFL, you dont. I got an m1 shipped to my front door. Mentioned I had a C&R license. Explained in the comments its not a dealer FFL. Theres a huge difference between the two.
@@relicpathfinder2800 theres a huge difference between the two. If you have a firearms license complete the form process and wait. Get license, buy, receive at home. You arent taking out loan to start your new business venture to get a dealer FFL
In the latest 60s we used the M1 carbine in the Navy for security pier duty or aboard ship while serving in East Asia, later year as a civilian a co-worker sold me one for $65. with a stipulation that I had a date with his sister-in-law, so I had one date and just kept the M1 carbine as it was the better deal. Used a few times on my father's old farm emptying the clip on jackrabbit runs at 100 to 250 yards distance with speeds of up 45 mph it was a challenging target. But then the farm was sold, since living in apartments in Houston I sold it for $100. Of course few years later were selling for $1000.
Found your channel today. I like the simplicity and accuracy of your style. I also liked how you showed the effectiveness of the M1 and included a little education about the weapon. My dad was a WW2 veteran and fought in Italy with the 10th Mountain division. He said he did not like the M1 and carried the Garand but I can see from your demonstration that it must be like you said, it was a personal preference. He probably like the long distance capability of the Garand better because he was the recon platoon leader.
Thank you, I appreciate it! I can definitely see wanting the Garand for longer ranges, even just for the travel time difference of the round. 3000fps vs 2000fps, anything moving would take a good amount of lead. When I use my airguns and edit videos, at 70 yards its getting close to a half second for the round the impact. Its kind of funny witnessing the delay like that.
The reason that a lot of soldiers and sailors said the carbine had no stopping power was because the Japanese they were shooting were hopped up on opium. Read the book about the P T boats we used in WW2. I think it was called "They Were Expendable ".
My father a Korean war veteran , had one, when I was in high school in Oregon, someone broke into our house and stole it. We found it a year later outside our house in a blackberry patch rusted. It still shot after we cleaned it up
As a personal defense weapon it is more than adequate, especially if you use Hornady critical defense that gives you a legit 2010 fps. If you go to a 110 soft point , you greatly increase performance. If you go to 30 round mags, add an M2 mag release spring to make sure it supports the added weight. Great little carbine and with bayonet lug ground off it is NY compliant. Just saying
Damn it, I was going to move to NY but I am definitely not grinding my lug off. lol, how is that even a law? So dumb. Im actually amazed its legal there, its not in NJ apparently. Can't have 80 year old firearms floating around.
My dad brought a box of parts home to me from a gun shop he used to hang out at.When mom passed away,dad needed to occupy his mind on something besides sorrow.The gun shop guys really helped dad adjust. Anyway... I knew the parts belonged to an M1 carbine.The stock gave the clue away at once. I asked dad what was this all about.He said if I could assemble it,I could have it. I assembled it in seconds.It came with 2 15 round mags and 1 30 round mag. That was back in 2013. Ive still yet to fire it,even tho Ive got ammo. Problem being...ammo here in north Ohio wedt of Cleveland is more rare than hens teeth. When I can find a source of ammo,I will test it out.The carbine is an urban assault weapon.Not long distance. They are awesome in the urban situations.
This thing is awesome and that is badass!! lol I have to get a lot of my stuff online. Not many cheap options locally and the availability is very limited.
I served in vietnam and never seen a M-1 carbine 30 cal. We had very few of the best battle rifle made the M-14 in 7.62 51. (308), but was issued the matel/ tonka, black rifle looks like a toy.
I would love to get a garand at some point, so I feel it would be necessary to grab an M-14. Complete the whole lineage, does the Mini-14 count too? I'll need one of those as well lol
My dad has one that he uses for groundhogs. His is the paratrooper model, which fits great in the cab of a truck or tractor. The problem people had with them is that they pushed the range too far. This was essentially the PCC of the day, and people tried to treat it like a full sized main battle rifle. I love the carbine myself. If they made a modern repro in 10mm, it would sell like hotcakes.
The M1 carbine was designed to better arm troops who would have otherwise been issued a pistol. It was never intended to match the M1 rifle in performance.
@@timdybala7127 The only thing I think they would check is the list of purchases you have made. You are supposed to keep a record of it if a theft occurs.
I have been told the M-1 carbine is as powerful as a .357 magnum at 10ft OUT TO 200YDS!! Also, the magazines were designed for single use. AND keep a bottle of gun oil close by. AND change out the springs frequently. AND the screw on the fore stock HAS TO be as tight as possible to shoot straight. It's kind of a high maintenance rifle. But well worth it. Mine was made in 1944 by Underwood and is a certified WW2 veteran.
I think its closer to a 44mag at the muzzle, definitely has good power from the start, up to about 300 yards. Ive bought a couple of tools people recommended for it, bolt jig and a gas piston wrench, Ill check out the springs.👍👍
When I was in Vietnam in 1967 and 68 I had a chance to talk to a special forces Troop who carried a carbine. I couldn't help myself I had to ask him why he preferred the car being to the Buck Rogers M16. He said the M16 was a great rifle and it would destroy whatever the bullet hit. Unfortunately the bullet would also destroy itself. So when you're in the bush and you shoot at something with the M16 if it hit a twig on the way it would destroy itself. The M1 carbine would go through the twig and on to the Target. I kind of fell in love with the M1 carbine at that point.
Ive heard that as well, big advantage for the AK too. Its interesting hitting steels with different rounds, makes a huge difference. An AR or AK both turn into tiny fragments on steel, swap to something like my air powered musket, night and day. Same energy as the AR or AK depending on ammo grain used, but the size of the round makes all the difference. The energy transfer is crazy, the airgun will knock over my steel target, the AR or AK just splatters and dumps all its oomph into the fragments. Its like ones a shaped charge directed into it and the other is just a nade going off.
The idea at least of the M1 carbine was that it was for support troops or to be used instead of a pistol (officers) but the reality was often different.
We had one of these cut down to the size of a large dueling pistol in my Vietnam Brown Water Navy days. Someone had made a nice canvas holster with several magazine pouches for it. We carried it on perimeter watches depending on conditions.
I carried an M-1 Carbine in my fires tour. The military rounds are of less power than you are shooting. They still worked fine. I carried 30 round mags in a bag with w couple frags and a couple smoak grenades. I was a helicopter pilot and lucky never had to use it on the ground.
Did exactly the same thing with a Garand. Works perfectly. I'd LOVE to get a revolver chambered in the same caliber, and carry them as a 'Team.' Only a Fool would believe the M1 Carbine isn't effective. The Wielder simply needs to know what they're doing. :-)
Its really nice having the option to ship direct. I've had issues where the FFLs aren't open when deliveries are made. Makes it a pain to get things brought in if they don't stock it. Some of the places I have been to are a nightmare, lines out the door, only X amount of people at one time allowed in. I'd love to get the other FFL license, but I'm pretty sure they want the person to have a store front. 01 I have heard you can have claim your home as a workplace if you do gunsmithing.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Oh, I'm 100% behind you on ALL those sentiments! The last three purchases I made, that required the 'FFL' proceedure, I could not, for the FIRST TIME(s) in my fifty-plus years of living/purchasing firearms, walk out the door WITH my property, because the BS NICS System was back-logged. Took me two WEEKS before my check was finally approved, with the 3rd firearm purchased, and I don't even have a parking ticket against my Name! I'm totally fed up with all their BS regarding our 2A, and as a Citizen/USMC Vet, am doubly insulted at this mandatory requirement. Sadly, this is where we've allowed things to go- To sh*t. I include myself in this, as I too foolishly believed our Govt. & 'Crew' would actually honor/respect, support/defend our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and hold anyone in their group accountable if they ever tried to wipe their as*/es with these two critical documents/contracts "We, the People" have with 'Them.' I've been proven very wrong in this belief and trust, and that's very, very troubling (Seeing where America is going, at a break-neck speed no less!). Sorry for the TLDR, but one last thing? LOVE your accuracy!!! Big fan of iron sights, and the K.I.S.S. system on all my platforms, and only resort to 'Cheating' with an optic for my precision rifle, for reaching WAY out there past teh 500 yard mark (Hitting at 1,000, finally!) Love your video, and look forward to watching more of them! Thank you.
What kind of license do you have? You mentioned it at the beginning of the video, but you used an abbreviation. Many of us don’t know abbreviations. Please expound. Thank you.
@@toxicmatrix1337 oh, cool. I will have to look into what that is. I have never heard of it. I am military, and I can tell you that the M1 Carbine is an awesome shirt to medium range weapon. Most engagements are 100 yards and in, so the M1 carbine is extremely effective. I would not take it past 300 yards due to the bullet design and velocity. I believe it is just a pistol bullet. Not made or designed to go far. It will kill much further, but not effectively. So, I would keep it within 300 for hunting or real world use. But I’d also play with it and different types of ammo. Some ammo manufacturers may have upgraded the bullets from what they once were back in the day it was designed.
@@ScorpioSin777 👍👍 This license is nice to have, anything 50 years and older qualifies as C&R. Makes things much more simplified for me, saves time and money.
We sleeved the barrel down to .221, neck the 30 cal cases down to 22, it head spaces on the shoulder. Equivalent to the M16/.223 round. I called it the "very mini 14". When the guns were $200 they were fun to convert and were very accurate and reliable with our .30/22 wildcat.
Got my M1 since 1972. Carried that rifle everywhere I went out in the desert hiking. I also purchased the 30 carbine Ruger pistol. That way I wouldn’t have to take two different ammunition. These are two of the best guns I’ve owned. PS you are a pretty good shot and I should know.
I knew a WW II Marine who enlisted a few years before the war started and did Special Recon missions. On one mission they were discovered by jap surveilence that set up an attack on them. The Marines were only a small squad armed only with .38 Cal revolvers and 30 Cal M1 Carbines and their planned extraction wasn’t for several hours. They held off the first couple of charges on them with much difficulty because of the amount of rounds they had to pump in them to stop each soldier. He said the japs didn’t know the size of their force and each attack was larger in number than the previous one. They brought a good amount of ammo with them but were rapidly using it up trying to stop the slant devils. He came up with the idea to take their knives and saw X’s and even asterisks in the noses of their bullets. On the next charge he said had much better results because their rounds had much more stopping power. He said as the jap attackers progressed closer hits were more noticeable because they would spin, buck back and even flipped backwards when hit the first time. This allowed them to make better use of their remaining ammo and hold the japs off until they were able to make their extraction. This guy was bad ass and had several other combat stories just as scary. The M1 carbine had some decent power but FMJ RN bullets would zip right thru them unless it hit a vital point. The same round slightly modified to immediately deform and expand upon impact had more effective stopping power.
@@toxicmatrix1337 I remember it like yesterday. Was at the courthouse to pay a parking ticket and there was a pawn shop across the street. The barrel was full of them, a pile of magazines for 5 dollars apiece on the counter. If only….
My Father was in the Pacific during WWII and preferred the M1 Carbine to the M1 Garand. 14 shots semi-automatic. My Dad preferred carbines in general. Lighter, whippier.
My dad had a M1 carbine as part of the equipment for the M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer. He had no problem with knock down power. It was way better for distance shooting than the grease gun, also part of the equipment he had. I also own one of these. From time to time you'll see cans of ammo come on the market. The last time it happened I bought 1080 rounds. They're in nice stripper clips. Korean ammo. Make sure you take care of it. No half assed greasing (water type "gun" grease from a store). The rifle is meant to be greased with axle type grease. Go to the auto parts store. I get one of the synthetic cup type grease. You want to put that on anything that rubs together. Not a lot. Little dab will do ya as my Dad would say. As long as it's lubricated. You'll want to take it apart and do that every couple of years or before you take it to a range. Same thing with the M1 rifle. Nice find. I hope you have a lot of fun with it.
The M1 .30 cal carbine was developed for rear front line personnel (not actual fighting soldiers) to use if needed instead of a 1911. Most of these individuals were apprehensive about firing a pistol. It was also an idea to lighten paratroopers for jumps (thus the folding stock version) & very few were full auto. Don't forget the M1 Garand was a .30-06, so all 8 lbs of rifle helped control the recoil.
554,000 left the factories as select fire M2 Carbines. Many others were converted from M1s. One that is stamped M2 over the original M1 marking is considered an NFA item even if converted back to semi-auto only. And if you just have the 9 parts that make up the firing mechanism, that too is an NFA item.
"The M1 .30 cal carbine was developed for rear front line personnel (not actual fighting soldiers) to use if needed instead of a 1911" -Stop repeating that nonsense, it's complete BS
the SAD thing is,South Korea has BARRELS and barrels of M1 carbines never used,still in original Cosmoline wrapping,that they wanted to import into the US for sale,and the usual suspects banned their return to the US.
@@Relaxbadkneeadventures I plan on getting a berm put in just to be 100%. The police here dont require it with the amount of land there. I will be bringing out the big toys when I get it put in 💪💪
My dad and uncle were in the US Army for the duration of WWII in Europe seeing action in North Africa, Italy, France and Germany. My uncle was issued an M-1 Garand and my dad a carbine. I remember them arguing over which rifle was best. Neither of the won their arguments, but it was awesome listening to them go at it. However, they NEVER mentioned anything specific as far as battles, action etc.
I bought an M-1 Carbine many years ago. Mine was made by Westinghouse. I love it. It's a great gun and it's very accurate. it's one of my favorite guns. I reload for it. The rounds I make for it has a muzzle velocity of 1,900 fps. The round is far smaller and far less muzzle velocity than a Garand or an M1-A but, it's still a powerful round. If I were in WWII, I would have wanted to carry a Garland just because a 30.06 is a much more powerful round.
I think this would be my go to in WWII. I've heard most engagements with the M1 Carbine were within its effective range, any longer than that, Garand 100%
My dad preferred the 30 carbine to the m1 in the Korean War when he was in the artillery. He won several matches with it before Korea and I think he preferred the handling and light weight. Plus, for some reason that I cannot recall, he did not like the M1 at all, even though he loved he cartridge (30-06) for hunting.
I carried the M1 carbine when I first started with the Air Force in 1966. Not long after, it was replaced with the M16. I still likethe "old" rifle feel of the M1.
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@@Skrillful that only works if YT hides them, this is straight up deleting. The issues been going on for a long time.
Dude what website did you buy it at
@@a1locc25 J&G Sales
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There is nothing wrong with the M1 Carbine. Used as it was intended, it was adequate for the job. All too often you see the Carbine compared to the M1 Garand. Two completely different weapons for two completely different jobs. The Garand was a Main Battle Rifle and the carbine was intended more or less for close in combat. The Carbine was initially intended to replace the M1911 pistol as a side arm. It wound up being issued to crew served weapons crews such as Mortars and Machine guns, truck drivers and such who would be hard pressed to use a full size battle rifle.
Correct. The concept of a Personal Defense Weapon isn't new. This was the US Army's version 80 years ago. It could also be thought of as an intermediate cartridge weapon, similar to the Stg-44 in function, though without the full-auto capability (until later).
And Zero's, aka Officers.
@@thelarry6864 I've spoken to a lot of veterans who said that in WWII Officers could pretty much carry what they wanted if it was in the TO&E.
@@waynecoulter6761 Correct. My Father was one of the original 3,000 volunteers to join Merrill's Marauders. He had plenty of experience with the M1 Carbine and wasn't impressed with it's effectiveness on stopping Japs. He survived that campaign, only to get his left leg shot off in Korea. Retired DAV as a MSGT. God rest his soul.
Ty for that true statement
I know a vietnam vet whose preferred firearm was the m1 carbine. He continued to carry it as his duty rifle when he became the county sheriff. Swore by it.
Badass!
M1 Carbine was very popular in Vietnam. Audie Murphy carried one, he would pop the Germans in the forehead. Read his book, to hell & back. In the Pacific. Some Marines liked the knock down of the Garand. Some liked the light weight fast follow up shots with the carbine. M1 Carbine was a liked rifle for over 40 years of wars. Still has a place today. One of my favorite rifles. More so getting older, due to the light weight, low recoil. Add reflex sight & light, great home defence, with 30 round mag.
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My dad served in nam and i can agree with this statement
My granddad also carried one as a Bonner County Sheriff in Idaho. He referred to it as his truck rifle and was happy when he retired and only used it to dispatch animals hit by vehicles.
He loved that rifle and his life depended on it if ever needed. I grew up shooting them almost every weekend as it went out to the range every trip. It is 1942 Inland Carbine he left to me with the rest of them. He also had a Saginaw, IBM, a Underwood Typewriter Company, and a Rock-Ola Manufacturing Corporation M1’s.
These have been some of my favorite rifles since childhood and I’d never get rid of any one of them as they all have just a little bit of a different personality and just feel a bit different when shooting.
With the same ammo the Inland will definitely shoot about 1/2” tighter groups than the standard 2-21/2” groups they all average at 100 yards.
I was an Infantry advisor with MAC-V in Binh Dinh province in the Vietnam war. I carried an M2 version of this thing, it was pretty awesome for my entire year. As an alternative, I tried a Thompson (too heavy, and the .45 ammo weighed a ton) I then tried a "grease gun" it never worked properly. I came back to the carbine every time. The only reason I tried to get away from it was the selector switch never worked to engage full auto, and I was 275 Km away from the arms room!! Over all, my evaluation is that if the shooter is intelligent in selecting the aim-point, the carbine will do the rest!
That M2 is sweet!
The first time I handled a Thompson, I was shocked on how heavy it was! I guess they made men differently during WWII! The M16 was like handling a BB gun.
@@2-old-Forthischet That was like me with the UZI. Things a brick.
Audie Murphy kicked ass in WWII with one. My Dad also used one in WWII along with his M1 Garande
@@2-old-Forthischet My Drill Instructors (MCRD San Diego 1975) called the M16 the "Matty Mattel" (as in toy gun). All of our DIs completed multiple tours in Viet Nam (they carried the M-14). From 1966 to 1970, my senior DI, Staff Sgt. McCormick, completed 4 tours in Viet Nam. Sgt. McCormick had nothing good to say about the M16.
You, Sir, are one Hell of a marksman. My hat is off to you.
Thank you!
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@@guaporeturns9472 You wouldnt want to sit around for 20 extra minutes of pauses, down time, etc. It's always going to be edited, but I leave misses in. 4:07
My thoughts were " shoot much do ya?".
@@toxicmatrix1337 I would
I just checked out the site you mentioned...$1850 for a "VG" condition M1 Carbine!?!? Holy cow. The first rifle I ever bought was an M1 Carbine (Inland division of General Motors), in "Very Good" condition, for $150. That was the going rate for VG condition carbines back then. My "expensive" Lee Enfield Number 5 Mk 1, in excellent condition cost me $250. I'm blown away by how high the prices are going on military rifles.
About 15 years ago, these were around $500 dollars, I regret not buying one back then. My first purchases were a Mosin for $99 and an SKS for $299. Now they are 2-3x, even 4x the price. Its crazy.
@@toxicmatrix1337same bought a mosin at big 5 sporting goods for 90 and an sks from an officer for 200
In about 1963 I paid about 20 dollars plus shipping for and M1 Carbine from the old DCM when the NRA was able to offer as the middleman direct sales from the US Gov to civilian NRA members.
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Gee why do you think the price is so crazy expensive? Stop spending so much for these things. People like yourself ruined the market, especially the civilian marksmanship program which was never supposed to be overcharging. What you spent on that rifle is shameful and stops other Americans from owning firearms. Well done.
@@loquat44-40 Dang!
I PURCHASED MY M1 CARBINE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION 40 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS 20 YRS OLD FOR $100. I STILL HAVE IT TODAY & WILL NEVER SELL IT.
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My dad had bought one for 100 early 1970s
Which website did he mention?
Early 70’s if you earned 5 thousand a year you were doing good. 5 bucks was worth 35 in today’s money. 100 was a lot of cash.
@@MrJedi5150 👍👍 I try to avoid mentioning or "promoting" websites like that in video. I get toyed with by RUclips a lot, It's been fun learning their game😥
My dad made all 4 combat jumps with the 82nd in WWII. He preferred the Carbine above all other weapons. Could carry a lot of ammo and still had room for an extra canteen. Said he was always thirsty. Said it stopped people just fine.
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Audience Murphy made the same statement
My own dad carried one as a member of the 793rd Combat Military Police Battalion, ETO.
My dad was a drill Sargent at fort Benning, Georgia, during Korea. He loved the carbine. He said it was the only rife a airborne man ever needed. He loved how much ammo one man could carry.
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It was my understanding that it was more of a replacement for the .45 1911 that officers carried. They didn't have to lug around the Garand, but the pistol was deemed ineffective for the battlefield. The M1 Carbine was the compromise. That's how it was explained to me.
I don’t think so. Do Research
Yes, that was the intention but most who were issued carbines also carried a .45 as a backup anyway. When I served in the 82d, it was still policy for weapons squad (M60 crews) to carry a sidearm as well as the platoon leader and platoon sgt
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@quellenathanar is closer than your non-answer.
@@jeffrogge8597That’s exactly what the M1 Carbine’s purpose was.
I was USAF and our officers still carried 45's I was issued the carbine but at Ft.Bragg we were issued M-16's, the 82nd was still using M-14's
Very well made video. It moved very fast, did not drag, kept my attention and was entertained all the way through. Thank you
Thank you!
One of the better M 1 carbine videos for accurcy, and entertainment!!! 👍🇺🇸
Thank you!
The M1 carbine wasn't meant to replace the Garand. So, yeah, it was marginal as a battle rifle
It was meant to replace pistols for those whose primary duties didn't have them carrying a rifle. Officers, tankers, etc. Easier to shoot effectively than a pistol, and didn't mark the user as a primary target.
Audie Murphy recovered, repaired and carried one.
He fondly recalled the serial number 20 years after the war.
That guy was most definitely a front line man
@@mattburnett4185 He also claimed he wore out several Thompson sub machine guns. What I am thinking we dealt with was a media that quoted everything without challenging anything. His most famous incident actually involved a Browning .50 M2.
My dad made all 4 jumps with the 82nd. He preferred the carbine , and he was as front line as it gets. Likes it because he could carry a lot of ammo and had room for an extra canteen. Said it stopped enemy combatants just fine
@kenibnanak5554 because you know better than the guy who was there. Stop comparing yourself to better men, they did things you couldn't comprehend.
Of course it replaced the garand. My father trained with the garand in basic training in 1943 but was issued the carbine when he went to New Guinea. They have a 15 round magazine but he said they would modify them by welding them together to make 30 and 45 round magazines.
That's crazy we used to get those for $125.00 in the 80s. When Mosin nagants where 39.99, and sks where 79.95. Crazy. If I could go back in time and stock up.
15 years ago I got my mosin for $99 and my sks for $299. These were $499, I regret not getting one sooner.
My friend and his friends went in on a case of SKSs. Cheap in the 80's.
in late 80s Woolworth's store in downtown Houston had old German rifles, M-1 rifles for sale and a few carbines, still regret not buying a carbine
@@michaelsix9684 my regret was not getting this 10 years ago. It was 1000 dollars cheaper lol
@@toxicmatrix1337 I knew a guy staying in my rooming house in Galveston. He was in the Coast Guard. He wanted to sell me an M-14 for 100 dollars in 83. I turned it down. Still kicking myself about that!
From what I understand, most soldiers loved the M1 Carbine, especially in the Pacific because of how light, nimble, and capable it was. Might struggle to reach out past iunno maybe 300 yards, but most engagements happened within that range.
easy to strip, clean, and accurate
My dad was in Vietnam, and he said a lot of guys still carried those. Many of them preferred them to M-16s because they were reliable and easy to shoot. In thick jungle the range of 5.56x45mm was irrelevant, and M1 Carbines tended to fare very well in denser brush.
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Never liked the 16. Carbine was reliable. Easy to use.
The US Special Forces in Nam found that the low velocity of the 30 cal bullet did far more damage than the high velocity M14 round which went through too fast. It's only disadvantage was range which was not a problem in the jungle, It was standard issue in Air defense units in the 60s. I loved it. Makes a great short range deer rifle.
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Bullshit. You watch too many cartoons. The .30 carbine round is little more than a .357 magnum out of a rifle barrel. It doesn't even remotely come close the kinetic energy of a 7.62x51mm round. It doesn't "do more damage". That is asinine. You can do your own research on the statistical probability of surviving a upper thoracic shot from a 158 gr. .357 magnum, versus a 147 gr. .308 round.
Good video. Some crew chiefs on slicks in NAM, carried M2 carbine pistols that were very handy when you went down. It was carried with 2 - 15 round magazines in the pistol and several 30 round mags in pockets.There were rubber caps to go on the ends of magazines to keep them clean.
One buddy said that he went down 3 times and the M2 saved his life because it was strapped to him and didn't get lost when he was thrown a distance from the bird. He was able to use it to hold off the bad guys until rescue made it to him. The M1 carbine was sold surplus in the early 1960s for only $20 and were popular with deer hunters. Good Luck, Rick
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@@toxicmatrix1337 He was but, he paid the price that most vets pay. The nightmares came most nights. He died about 20 years ago. I'm not sure if it was agent orange or too much alcohol.
@@richardross7219 damn, sorry to hear that.
My dad was discharged from the Army in 1958, he was able to buy his 2 favorite firearms through an NRA program. He bought his favorite sidearm, (he was an MP) a colt 1911 for $21.00, and his favorite rifle ( the M1 carbine made by Singer, for $19.00).
@@SwampRat8462 Singer did not make M1 Carbines. Singer did make M1911A1s though.
What’s really sad is remembering seeing these at the LA County Fair Grounds Gun Show back in the late 80’s and early nineties selling for between $69 to $89.
Dang!😥
@@toxicmatrix1337 Dang indeed! Back in the early nineties when I still lived in Southern California there was a large gun store selling British Enfield rifles for $79.95 to $99.95! Now they’re $700 to over $1k in some instances.
It can blow your mind how cheap and easy it used to be. My father brought home a carbine on the NYC subway. He paid $35.
I recently brought the 1941 Johnson that my father bought for $69 dollars for a good cleaning and going through. He used it for deer hunting and I used it for plinking .
The gunsmith smiled and said he used to see them in barrels in hardware stores for $10. I recently saw a YT video where a guy had bought an estate and mentioned a price for the Johnson that amazed me.
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@@pasqualelibassi8054 My brother in law bought an 1862 model Spencer repeating carbine from Martin B. Redding Gun Store in Culver City California for $65 in 1965 and the store gun the guns in a barrel so you could pick the one you wanted. Because the Spencer was rim fire and ammo hadn’t been produced for it since the nineteen twenties his Dad who was a master machinist milled a center fire block fit it and turned a firing pin for it on his lathe and my brother in law trimmed down and formed 50-70 brass and loaded his own ammo. It was a hoot to shoot and he still has the gun.
Dang that M1 is pretty dam accurate for being almost 80 yrs old!
The bore/rifling looks perfect👍👍
Accuracy does not diminish with age as long as arm is properly stored / maintained and proper cartridges are available or handloaded.
Well kept vintage Mannlicher Schoenauers are incredibly accurate.
Growing up in the 70’s I had a family friend that was a Marine officer on Okinawa that carried the M1 carbine. He claimed that within 100 yds you couldn’t tell the difference in a wound from the M1 carbine ant the M1 Garand. This man also carried a M2 carbine in the landing at Inchon during the Korean War. He said other than a couple of Chinese human wave attacks he never used it on full auto. The poor stopping power reports came mostly from Korea where poorly trained troops relied on full auto rather than effectively aimed fire. Meaning there was a whole lot of missing going on.
It's also easy to miss a guy that might weigh a buck twenty when he's wearing one of those quilted winter suits they had in Korea.
lot of muzzle rise on the M2 with full auto unless you were use to it, there were a lot of misses Im sure
Plus the Chinese smoked opium before the human wave attacks. Some were hit and didn't know it.
The other part of the problem was the ammo lost power in the cold weather. Fine in the hot though.
How could anyone be anti this? Pure fun, and enjoyable time outside. I dig your use of mics near the targets. Sounds awesome.
Thank you!
As far as effectiveness goes, here are two notable proponents of the M1 Carbine: Audie Murphy (USA CMOH) and Jim Cirillo (NYPD. USCS)
Badass!
As a police officer, Carillo was able to use ammo other than fmj. Soft or hollow point ammo makes a huge difference in stopping soft targets.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Yes & no. Reports from doctors from every war. Clearly state hitting a vital organ is more important than caliber size. Yet, fmj putting a small hole in an arm, compared to hollow point, doing more muscle damage, can incapacitate better.
It's pretty unlikely that carillo was using JHP. He was an active officer from the 50s to the 70s. JHP was viewed pretty differently in that era than it is today and was not common.
@@ColonelSandersLite actually, he did use hollowpoints in his M1 Carbine. I know this because Jim told me so. He said the M1 Carbine never let him down---those he shot with it stayed down. He was wont to make his own bullets, and held several patents on bullet designs. Murphy, on the other hand used GI issue FMJ.
Grew up around a lot of WW2 Vets as a kid. One even let me use his M1 when we boys were playing guns. No firing pin or they wouldn't let him take it home. I've always wanted one myself ever since then. Still do and I'm now 62. Have no clue how to get one these days. Especially one that works! That's why I clicked on this video. "Ordered an M1 Carbine" read and I was hooked.
Still don't know how to get one but,... sure is nice to see someone did and it's in such great shape! Thanks for the Post!! Brought back memories!
Thank you! I got this at J&G Sales online. If you have a C&R license you can get it shipped straight to you. Its basically an FFL for collectors, you can skip a trip to an FFL dealer. No 4473 to fill out, no transfer fees 👍👍
@@toxicmatrix1337 Thank you!! Flippin' Aye!!😎👍
A few companies are still making them. Inland is one.
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul The prices are a bit better on those. It was close enough here that I wanted to go with an this though over a new one.
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Yep. Found that one quickly. Was always told that rifle you could bet your life on. Have to take into consideration the source too. They had to and it never failed them. Seen the prices on the old ones. OMG they're asking a lot!
Former Marine Corp Veteran (24) yrs) here, also a marksmanship instructor. The M1 Carbine would be a great un-close effective rifle. The M1 Garand will always be a fantastic long range rifle. A few of us used them in Vietnam with a 9x39 snipers scope, along with Remington 700's and the Garand always held up well. Thanks for the memory. SEMPER FI !!!
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I must correct you on one statement, you are not a Former Marine Corps Veteran you are a Marine Corps Veteran, SEMPER FI !
When you consider that the Carbine was meant to be a substitute for troops that didn't need a rifle, but still needed a weapon.
It's literally to give support troops a longer range pistol.
Perfect! Somebody did their homework. 👍🏻
I think that little rifle has always been underrated it is a great trouble free rifle.
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Spot on.
Excellent video of the accuracy and hit probability of the M-1 carbine. Congratulations on buying a real beauty.
Thank you!
My favorite hunting rifle was easily the least accurate one I owned. It was a ruger Mini 30. 6" at a hundred yards. My buddy had the little carbine you have, and they both were a joy to shoot. We hunted mostly in patchy brush and forest, and didn't need to make the long 300 yard shots. You could carry it all day and have a pocket full of ammo, and didn't need a scope. We honed our quick snap shooting techniques on jackrabbits, and those same skills translated to the brief glances you got of a buck moving through brush. The little 30 cal ruger was about as powerful as the Carbine. Had a scope and pulled it off because of the time you needed for target acquisition. And it would take the lungs right out of a running deer. In the 80's and 90's, surplus ammo made shooting both carbines about as cheep as .22. except for the deer loads with the rounded bullwts. We all sell the guns we should of kept. No one misses their first wife, but we sure miss our good guns.
Sounds fantastic! I can picture that visually. 👍👍
Lol good analogy.
I bought one 30yrs ago from a department-store. Anytime I take it to the range everyone wants shoot it . I took two deer last year with using soft point ammo . Brownell's carries a scout scope mount that replaces the upper barrel cover , really enhances accuracy.
I checked those out when I grabbed it. I was thinking about ordering one, but I kind of put it off. I've been really wanting to run iron sights, I forgot how good this style is. They have to be my favorite.
I used to use mine for deer in the cedar swamps of Northern Lower Michigan.
Not legal in Nebraska to hunt with
I purchased my Inland back in 1997 for $200.00 and it's my favorite rifle. I worked in the firearms industry for over 20 years and have dozens of other higher power rifles. However my M1 Carbine is my only true "Weapon of War" and the only rifle that has a story I wish could be told.
Awesome! I wish I got mine sooner! $1500 now, even 10 years ago it was about $500
I used to have one . The .30 Mi Carbine has the same Muzzle Energy as the .357 Mag. in the same 110 grain bullet weight and can be reloaded with the same Gunpowder. I used to reload it with H110 Gunpowder . These days I use the same Bullets and powder to reload the 300 Blackout supersonic loads. They were usually issued to Officers ,Tankers and Artillery due to the need to work in small spaces and carry Heavy Artillery and Tank Shells .
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David Marshall Williams (November 13, 1900 - January 8, 1975) was an American firearms designer and convicted murderer who invented the floating chamber and the short-stroke gas piston. Both designs used the high-pressure gas generated in or near the breech of the firearm to operate the action of semi-automatic firearms like the M1 Carbine. James Stewart played him in the movie Carbine Williams
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Excellent movie. Been decades since I last saw it.
When I saw the perfectly placed EYE you made on that hand sized RAM. I openly said to myself "NOICE"
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I have a my Dads M1 carbine that he bought from the government back in the 60's. He bought 2 for $50 each. Mine has never been messed with as my mom refinished hers. I Used it to hunt all day hiking the bush in Michigan. Very light weight and you can easily carry it for 8 hours hiking and hunting with no worries. Just don't shoot too far away and not through stuff that may deflect your shot.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, the M1 carbine was for non infantry. In other words admin type troops, tank crewman, artillery crew etc. I have heard that it is a great weapon and very hard hitting if your shooting 100 yards or less and possibly up to 200. I have heard it hits like a sledge hammer at the closer distances. I would say it is almost ideal for CQB/urban warfare.
Ive been hearing it was pretty much a longer range option over a pistol for support troops. That ending battle in Saving Private Ryan would be ideal for the M1. Pretty much everyone was within 100-200 yards.
Got my first Carbine in 1992. I paid a lot for a like new non import late production Inland for 550. Still have it. I have had my C&R since 1989. Enjoy your carbine.
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An easy way to think about it's power is that it is the same as a .357 mag at point blank when the .30 carbine is at 100 yards. Read that somewhere in an old hunting book when they discussed it being effective on deer or not. The answer was yes with a caveat on range of 220 yards or thereabouts.
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A C&R license is a FFL type 03
Correct, you are bypassing FFL dealers. No 3rd party, no transfer fees, no 4473.
I’m surprised the USGI M1 Carbine qualified as a curio/relic. 😮
@@StrictlyPlinking Anything 50 years or older qualifies. In a few years you could get an AUG as a relic lol!! Original MP5, ARs, AKs pretty crazy.
I used to have one in 1980 and I brought a lots of old gun i like without being screwed with FFL dealer that refused to order anything except what they have at their price. When Clinton was in WH and accused an FFL as a root cause of gun crime, I was forced to surrender my FFL to ATF after thwe passage of Crime Bills in 1994.
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I believe that the 30 caliber carbine rounds reputation using military hard ball bullets was for making a small round hole without incapacitating an opponent. A Vietnam vet, an adviser, who used one in combat told me that it took 5 - 7 hits to stop an enemy. Maybe that's why the army's newest 9 mm handgun holds 17 shots. A civilian's 9 mm modern bullet is designed to expand to 1.5 times the original diameter to .53 inches, not to over penitrate. 1000 foot pounds is not delivered to the target if the bullet goes through it and out the other side.
If this was launching HPs, im sure that would be devastating. They do make defensive ammo for 30 carbine but its pretty expensive and definitely not standard issue.
My Dad was a Bombardier on B-17 for 52 missions over Europe and North Africa. He was issued a
M1 Carbine and he said he loved it . SADLY he sold it before I was born. But I am still proud of him for serving in the Army Air Corps from April 1942 till VE day.
Badass!
I have a family air-loom 1943 Winchester M1 Carbine and it's possibly the coolest milsurp I own.
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The 30 carbine was actually intended to be a replacement for the 45 acp. Those soldiers who needed to be armed, but DIDN'T need a Garand battle rifle. Why? Because EVERYONE is more accurate with a rifle compared to the inherent difficulty of becoming accurate with a handgun. That's why the design parameters specified "5 pounds or less" - along with compactness and ease of use.
The 30 carbine met parameters 1000%. The "problems" that plagued it after introduction were purely due to misuse.
Namely expecting it to function like the Garand (it's NOT a thousand yard rifle), along with hot weather deterants in ammo being used in minus 20F weather. My uncle used one in Korea. They stripped ALL the oils, lubed with graphite, and kept the mags UNDER their parkas. The soldiers who did that had a good gun. Actually, my uncle carried both. He said that when the enemy got within 100 yards, he dropped his Garand and used the carbine. 15 or 30 shots were MUCH better than the 8 in the Garand.
The 30 carbine is an EXCELLENT rifle when used appropriately.
👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 Very neat to hear that!
That's the way it should be!
Back in the '60s my grand father ordered a .22 pistol and the postman delivered it to his front door! Yeah Buddy!!
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You can still get M1 Rifles delivered to your door. And if you are lucky enough ( and have the money ) you can have an M1 Carbine delivered to you door if you win one on the CMP auctions. But there haven't been any up recently. FedEx guy knows what is being delivered by the weight and size. Except when I got a .50 cal. Scope. That one had him baffled.
@@gravelydon7072 The CMP program is pretty cool, unfortunately a decent amount of restriction has been put in place. Some states require a transfer from an FFL or a C&R is required.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Yep, states like NY and CA are known for that kind of problem. Florida is not so mine come direct. The 1911s though had to have background checks before shipping and they had to go to an FFL who then had to do another background check. Even a C&R license isn't good enough for them.
@@gravelydon7072 Somehow in MA my C&R pistols shipped straight to me lol🤯
My father was a MP in Europe in WW2. During the battle of the bulge he carried a M1 carbine. He liked the carbine for its weight but he said that the Garand was the best weapon he ever fired. He also carried the M3 grease gun but wasn’t a fan.
The weight is very light, I can see why people liked it for that. Id love to try out a grease gun.
I bought one about 40 years ago for @$120 from a little shop in rural Missouri. IBM and other parts - typical of them. Shoots great and I still love it.
Good stuff
My Dad was issued the Carbine as he was squad leader, he carried tracer ammo so he could direct fire for the Garands
That sounds badass lol
I love mine. I recommend you buy the bolt take down tool now before you need it. Also get the gas piston wrench and a set of spare bolt springs. When the bolt does eventually get fouled it needs to be taken down and it's impossible w/o the jig.
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@nonokodog622 I would recommend a QUALIFIED gunsmith until you know WTF you are doing,first?
@@roytsusui1761 This is pretty basic work, just need the proper tools to be able to do it.
It was never intended to compete with the M1 or other main battle rifle. It was intended as more powerful, easier to shoot, longer range and more accurate replacement for the 45, for tank crews and such, being vastly lighter and handier than the Garand (or any later main battle rifle.) At that it excelled and is still pretty darn good. It was mostly liked for those reasons in WW2. It started to get a poor reputation among some troops in Korea because it was cold and the enemy was often wearing heavy winter coats and it lacked penetration. A friend's uncle carried one in WW2 in the Philippines. For that environment it's great. My friend still has that one his uncle carried. I have shot it. How awesome is that?
I need to get one of those uniforms and test it out, that would be cool👍👍
They were issued a an alternative to sidearms for officers,soldiers and Marines in jobs where the Garand wasn’t practical. My Father was in Regimental Weapons Company of the 9th Marines in WW2 PTO. He carried both a 45acp and an M1 Carbine depending on what he was firing at the time. Mortars or 37mm cannon. He said they had some Banzai charges where any weapon from cannon to knife was very welcome.
Damn, that sounds intense! I think I would've wanted the M1 carbine. From what Ive heard, most of all encounters were within its effective range.
It depends to who you ask. If you’re walking across Europe a lot would rather have had the carbine from what I’ve heard from Vets. The only problem was that metallurgy wasn’t as up to snuff as they should have been. The magazines were pretty much disposable otherwise they would have a lot of problems with hangups.
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The M1 Carbine is the most fun rifle to shoot other than a .22 rifle.
You never shot a lever action then.
Or a mini-14
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Misleading title acting as if you didn't still need a government issued license to get this.
*updated reply* People are assuming you can get a firearm without a firearms license or if you are ineligible in a red state(felon). Is that what you are saying? Because thats definitely not what I am implying. You need a state issued license, or not have a felony in a free state. I thought that was a given, that is my target I am trying to reach. I offer plenty of options for people who cant get any firearms though. Im just not sure how anyone would think you are getting a firearm mailed to you like its a loophole for those that cant get one in a store.
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Still misleading.
@@toxicmatrix1337 change the title or re-upload. You know what you did…
@@liggerstuxin1 Correct, I mentioned you dont need a Dealer FFL, you dont. I got an m1 shipped to my front door. Mentioned I had a C&R license. Explained in the comments its not a dealer FFL. Theres a huge difference between the two.
@@relicpathfinder2800 theres a huge difference between the two. If you have a firearms license complete the form process and wait. Get license, buy, receive at home. You arent taking out loan to start your new business venture to get a dealer FFL
That lung satire was pure gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was worth the 20 comments of people calling me a moron so far. lol
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In the latest 60s we used the M1 carbine in the Navy for security pier duty or aboard ship while serving in East Asia, later year as a civilian a co-worker sold me one for $65. with a stipulation that I had a date with his sister-in-law, so I had one date and just kept the M1 carbine as it was the better deal. Used a few times on my father's old farm emptying the clip on jackrabbit runs at 100 to 250 yards distance with speeds of up 45 mph it was a challenging target. But then the farm was sold, since living in apartments in Houston I sold it for $100. Of course few years later were selling for $1000.
Found your channel today. I like the simplicity and accuracy of your style. I also liked how you showed the effectiveness of the M1 and included a little education about the weapon. My dad was a WW2 veteran and fought in Italy with the 10th Mountain division. He said he did not like the M1 and carried the Garand but I can see from your demonstration that it must be like you said, it was a personal preference. He probably like the long distance capability of the Garand better because he was the recon platoon leader.
Thank you, I appreciate it! I can definitely see wanting the Garand for longer ranges, even just for the travel time difference of the round. 3000fps vs 2000fps, anything moving would take a good amount of lead. When I use my airguns and edit videos, at 70 yards its getting close to a half second for the round the impact. Its kind of funny witnessing the delay like that.
The reason that a lot of soldiers and sailors said the carbine had no stopping power was because the Japanese they were shooting were hopped up on opium. Read the book about the P T boats we used in WW2. I think it was called "They Were Expendable ".
Damn!
You can't shoot farther than you can see with open irons, which is why larger calibers were phased out and we got the AR15
Yeah, you're right. The book you're talking about is called. They were expendable. It takes place during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines.
My father a Korean war veteran , had one, when I was in high school in Oregon, someone broke into our house and stole it. We found it a year later outside our house in a blackberry patch rusted. It still shot after we cleaned it up
Glad you found it!
The Germans were amazed by the US Jeep and M-1 Carbine.
🧐ze jeep ist gut
As a personal defense weapon it is more than adequate, especially if you use Hornady critical defense that gives you a legit 2010 fps. If you go to a 110 soft point , you greatly increase performance. If you go to 30 round mags, add an M2 mag release spring to make sure it supports the added weight. Great little carbine and with bayonet lug ground off it is NY compliant. Just saying
Damn it, I was going to move to NY but I am definitely not grinding my lug off. lol, how is that even a law? So dumb. Im actually amazed its legal there, its not in NJ apparently. Can't have 80 year old firearms floating around.
I carried a M1 at times. Most often a 12 gauge short barrel shotgun. I always wanted a carbine but only officers were issued them.
Whoever told you that a 9mm is capable of blowing the lungs out of a deer?????
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Yes, although I remember him referring to a human rather than a deer, but 🙄!
@@scotty3114 I guess you are right, he said body. A deer body in this case haha
Jo Bidumb!
Mabey 9mm carbine
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My dad brought a box of parts home to me from a gun shop he used to hang out at.When mom passed away,dad needed to occupy his mind on something besides sorrow.The gun shop guys really helped dad adjust.
Anyway...
I knew the parts belonged to an M1 carbine.The stock gave the clue away at once.
I asked dad what was this all about.He said if I could assemble it,I could have it.
I assembled it in seconds.It came with 2 15 round mags and 1 30 round mag.
That was back in 2013. Ive still yet to fire it,even tho Ive got ammo.
Problem being...ammo here in north Ohio wedt of Cleveland is more rare than hens teeth.
When I can find a source of ammo,I will test it out.The carbine is an urban assault weapon.Not long distance. They are awesome in the urban situations.
This thing is awesome and that is badass!! lol I have to get a lot of my stuff online. Not many cheap options locally and the availability is very limited.
Yea, good luck finding ammo for it. I can’t find it anywhere!
@@johnmichalek9802 midway usa, 74 cents a piece.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Big thanks Dude!
@@johnmichalek9802 👍👍 I just bought extra today. lol! Everyone is saying its hard to find, so I figured I better stock up now.
I served in vietnam and never seen a M-1 carbine 30 cal. We had very few of the best battle rifle made the M-14 in 7.62 51. (308), but was issued the matel/ tonka, black rifle looks like a toy.
I would love to get a garand at some point, so I feel it would be necessary to grab an M-14. Complete the whole lineage, does the Mini-14 count too? I'll need one of those as well lol
My dad has one that he uses for groundhogs. His is the paratrooper model, which fits great in the cab of a truck or tractor. The problem people had with them is that they pushed the range too far. This was essentially the PCC of the day, and people tried to treat it like a full sized main battle rifle. I love the carbine myself. If they made a modern repro in 10mm, it would sell like hotcakes.
Within 300 yards, Id say is a reasonable expectation for this. The power drops off pretty substantially beyond that, its great for what it is.
The M1 carbine was designed to better arm troops who would have otherwise been issued a pistol. It was never intended to match the M1 rifle in performance.
100%, thanks for the comment.
Have you done a video on how to acquire a C&R license?
I haven't, but its pretty straight forward. The ATF website has the paperwork on it. FFL03 C&R collector.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Thanks! Are there any cons to having a C&R? For example, I Have heard that the feds can access your home/gun safe without a warrant.
@@timdybala7127 The only thing I think they would check is the list of purchases you have made. You are supposed to keep a record of it if a theft occurs.
Only one problem with the M1 Carbine - Ammo, if you don't Re-load you are SOL... if you can find Ammo it's Super Expensive. Enough said.
I grabbed this ammo off of midway usa. It goes for around 74 cents a round, you made me buy more now, lol! A lot of their supply is out of stock.
found some surplus at the CMP early this year. They get small batches in from time to time you have to keep an eye out.
I found some at Academy store in Houston
I have been told the M-1 carbine is as powerful as a .357 magnum at 10ft OUT TO 200YDS!!
Also, the magazines were designed for single use.
AND keep a bottle of gun oil close by.
AND change out the springs frequently.
AND the screw on the fore stock HAS TO be as tight as possible to shoot straight.
It's kind of a high maintenance rifle.
But well worth it.
Mine was made in 1944 by Underwood and is a certified WW2 veteran.
I think its closer to a 44mag at the muzzle, definitely has good power from the start, up to about 300 yards. Ive bought a couple of tools people recommended for it, bolt jig and a gas piston wrench, Ill check out the springs.👍👍
When I was in Vietnam in 1967 and 68 I had a chance to talk to a special forces Troop who carried a carbine. I couldn't help myself I had to ask him why he preferred the car being to the Buck Rogers M16. He said the M16 was a great rifle and it would destroy whatever the bullet hit. Unfortunately the bullet would also destroy itself. So when you're in the bush and you shoot at something with the M16 if it hit a twig on the way it would destroy itself. The M1 carbine would go through the twig and on to the Target. I kind of fell in love with the M1 carbine at that point.
Ive heard that as well, big advantage for the AK too. Its interesting hitting steels with different rounds, makes a huge difference. An AR or AK both turn into tiny fragments on steel, swap to something like my air powered musket, night and day. Same energy as the AR or AK depending on ammo grain used, but the size of the round makes all the difference. The energy transfer is crazy, the airgun will knock over my steel target, the AR or AK just splatters and dumps all its oomph into the fragments. Its like ones a shaped charge directed into it and the other is just a nade going off.
The idea at least of the M1 carbine was that it was for support troops or to be used instead of a pistol (officers) but the reality was often different.
Support troops? Those are assaulters when you're comfortably watching out of range with a DMR
What a beautiful piece of American history. Own it with pride Brother
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Definitely a bucket list item right there!😮❤❤❤
Definitely!
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We had one of these cut down to the size of a large dueling pistol in my Vietnam Brown Water Navy days. Someone had made a nice canvas holster with several magazine pouches for it. We carried it on perimeter watches depending on conditions.
Sounds ridiculous. I like it lol!
@@toxicmatrix1337 Pray and spray.
I carried an M-1 Carbine in my fires tour. The military rounds are of less power than you are shooting. They still worked fine. I carried 30 round mags in a bag with w couple frags and a couple smoak grenades. I was a helicopter pilot and lucky never had to use it on the ground.
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Did exactly the same thing with a Garand. Works perfectly.
I'd LOVE to get a revolver chambered in the same caliber, and carry them as a 'Team.'
Only a Fool would believe the M1 Carbine isn't effective. The Wielder simply needs to know what they're doing.
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Its really nice having the option to ship direct. I've had issues where the FFLs aren't open when deliveries are made. Makes it a pain to get things brought in if they don't stock it. Some of the places I have been to are a nightmare, lines out the door, only X amount of people at one time allowed in. I'd love to get the other FFL license, but I'm pretty sure they want the person to have a store front. 01 I have heard you can have claim your home as a workplace if you do gunsmithing.
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Oh, I'm 100% behind you on ALL those sentiments! The last three purchases I made, that required the 'FFL' proceedure, I could not, for the FIRST TIME(s) in my fifty-plus years of living/purchasing firearms, walk out the door WITH my property, because the BS NICS System was back-logged.
Took me two WEEKS before my check was finally approved, with the 3rd firearm purchased, and I don't even have a parking ticket against my Name!
I'm totally fed up with all their BS regarding our 2A, and as a Citizen/USMC Vet, am doubly insulted at this mandatory requirement.
Sadly, this is where we've allowed things to go- To sh*t. I include myself in this, as I too foolishly believed our Govt. & 'Crew' would actually honor/respect, support/defend our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and hold anyone in their group accountable if they ever tried to wipe their as*/es with these two critical documents/contracts "We, the People" have with 'Them.'
I've been proven very wrong in this belief and trust, and that's very, very troubling (Seeing where America is going, at a break-neck speed no less!).
Sorry for the TLDR, but one last thing?
LOVE your accuracy!!!
Big fan of iron sights, and the K.I.S.S. system on all my platforms, and only resort to 'Cheating' with an optic for my precision rifle, for reaching WAY out there past teh 500 yard mark (Hitting at 1,000, finally!)
Love your video, and look forward to watching more of them!
Thank you.
Ruger sold a Blackhawk chambered in 30 carbine.
that cartridge is designed to fire in an 18" barrel,it would do poorly in any handgun. too much muzzle flash and lost velocity.
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That is the reality in every revolver.
Again, knowing what you're using, and using its strengths while respecting its weaknesses is key.
And some try to debate the power of the M1 Carbine as appropriate for home defense with hollow point rounds.
What kind of license do you have? You mentioned it at the beginning of the video, but you used an abbreviation. Many of us don’t know abbreviations. Please expound. Thank you.
C&R is Curio and Relic.👍👍
@@toxicmatrix1337 oh, cool. I will have to look into what that is. I have never heard of it. I am military, and I can tell you that the M1 Carbine is an awesome shirt to medium range weapon. Most engagements are 100 yards and in, so the M1 carbine is extremely effective. I would not take it past 300 yards due to the bullet design and velocity. I believe it is just a pistol bullet. Not made or designed to go far. It will kill much further, but not effectively. So, I would keep it within 300 for hunting or real world use. But I’d also play with it and different types of ammo. Some ammo manufacturers may have upgraded the bullets from what they once were back in the day it was designed.
@@ScorpioSin777 👍👍 This license is nice to have, anything 50 years and older qualifies as C&R. Makes things much more simplified for me, saves time and money.
We sleeved the barrel down to .221, neck the 30 cal cases down to 22, it head spaces on the shoulder. Equivalent to the M16/.223 round. I called it the "very mini 14". When the guns were $200 they were fun to convert and were very accurate and reliable with our .30/22 wildcat.
Thats pretty cool!
Got my M1 since 1972. Carried that rifle everywhere I went out in the desert hiking. I also purchased the 30 carbine Ruger pistol. That way I wouldn’t have to take two different ammunition. These are two of the best guns I’ve owned. PS you are a pretty good shot and I should know.
Thank you! I want to get the Ruger Blackhawk in the caliber, as well as a lever action.
I think the stopping power complaint was overrated.
I knew a WW II Marine who enlisted a few years before the war started and did Special Recon missions. On one mission they were discovered by jap surveilence that set up an attack on them. The Marines were only a small squad armed only with .38 Cal revolvers and 30 Cal M1 Carbines and their planned extraction wasn’t for several hours. They held off the first couple of charges on them with much difficulty because of the amount of rounds they had to pump in them to stop each soldier. He said the japs didn’t know the size of their force and each attack was larger in number than the previous one. They brought a good amount of ammo with them but were rapidly using it up trying to stop the slant devils. He came up with the idea to take their knives and saw X’s and even asterisks in the noses of their bullets. On the next charge he said had much better results because their rounds had much more stopping power. He said as the jap attackers progressed closer hits were more noticeable because they would spin, buck back and even flipped backwards when hit the first time. This allowed them to make better use of their remaining ammo and hold the japs off until they were able to make their extraction. This guy was bad ass and had several other combat stories just as scary.
The M1 carbine had some decent power but FMJ RN bullets would zip right thru them unless it hit a vital point. The same round slightly modified to immediately deform and expand upon impact had more effective stopping power.
They were selling these out of a plastic trash barrel for 75 dollars in Brandon MS in 2003….. if only …….
Damn!😥
@@toxicmatrix1337 I remember it like yesterday. Was at the courthouse to pay a parking ticket and there was a pawn shop across the street. The barrel was full of them, a pile of magazines for 5 dollars apiece on the counter. If only….
So sad... I sold my RockOla M1 carbine for grocery money in 1989. Worst decision ever.
I did similar once, you did what was necessary and now it’s time to forgive yourself.
Dang! Sorry to hear that.
OH NO 😦🥲
My Father was in the Pacific during WWII and preferred the M1 Carbine to the M1 Garand. 14 shots semi-automatic. My Dad preferred carbines in general. Lighter, whippier.
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My dad had a M1 carbine as part of the equipment for the M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer. He had no problem with knock down power. It was way better for distance shooting than the grease gun, also part of the equipment he had.
I also own one of these. From time to time you'll see cans of ammo come on the market. The last time it happened I bought 1080 rounds. They're in nice stripper clips. Korean ammo.
Make sure you take care of it. No half assed greasing (water type "gun" grease from a store). The rifle is meant to be greased with axle type grease. Go to the auto parts store. I get one of the synthetic cup type grease. You want to put that on anything that rubs together. Not a lot. Little dab will do ya as my Dad would say. As long as it's lubricated. You'll want to take it apart and do that every couple of years or before you take it to a range. Same thing with the M1 rifle.
Nice find. I hope you have a lot of fun with it.
👍👍 Thank you!
Very cool carbine.🤠🇺🇸
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My grandfather was issued this in WWII.
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You sir, are a good shot ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you!
The M1 .30 cal carbine was developed for rear front line personnel (not actual fighting soldiers) to use if needed instead of a 1911. Most of these individuals were apprehensive about firing a pistol. It was also an idea to lighten paratroopers for jumps (thus the folding stock version) & very few were full auto. Don't forget the M1 Garand was a .30-06, so all 8 lbs of rifle helped control the recoil.
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554,000 left the factories as select fire M2 Carbines. Many others were converted from M1s. One that is stamped M2 over the original M1 marking is considered an NFA item even if converted back to semi-auto only. And if you just have the 9 parts that make up the firing mechanism, that too is an NFA item.
"The M1 .30 cal carbine was developed for rear front line personnel (not actual fighting soldiers) to use if needed instead of a 1911"
-Stop repeating that nonsense, it's complete BS
@@virgilhilts3924 I would bet that my uncle had one when he jumped in on D-Day and also at the Battle of the Bulge.
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What does that have to do with anything?
Your marksmanship is impressive. Thanks for the show.
Thank you!
the SAD thing is,South Korea has BARRELS and barrels of M1 carbines never used,still in original Cosmoline wrapping,that they wanted to import into the US for sale,and the usual suspects banned their return to the US.
Damn
The forest also belongs to your property?
A pretty good chunk. Most of what I own for land is back there.
@@toxicmatrix1337 niceee . Becaurse i wonder if you miss the bullit will go a distance till it hits a tree
@@Relaxbadkneeadventures I plan on getting a berm put in just to be 100%. The police here dont require it with the amount of land there. I will be bringing out the big toys when I get it put in 💪💪
I remember when you could buy m1 carbines for $65 dollars each and three thousand rounds for 20 bucks.
and a bottle of Coke was 10c....,gas 33c/gal. ;-) US dollar isn't worth what it used to be.
My dad and uncle were in the US Army for the duration of WWII in Europe seeing action in North Africa, Italy, France and Germany. My uncle was issued an M-1 Garand and my dad a carbine. I remember them arguing over which rifle was best. Neither of the won their arguments, but it was awesome listening to them go at it. However, they NEVER mentioned anything specific as far as battles, action etc.
Id take both if that were an option lol!
I bought an M-1 Carbine many years ago. Mine was made by Westinghouse. I love it. It's a great gun and it's very accurate. it's one of my favorite guns. I reload for it. The rounds I make for it has a muzzle velocity of 1,900 fps. The round is far smaller and far less muzzle velocity than a Garand or an M1-A but, it's still a powerful round. If I were in WWII, I would have wanted to carry a Garland just because a 30.06 is a much more powerful round.
I think this would be my go to in WWII. I've heard most engagements with the M1 Carbine were within its effective range, any longer than that, Garand 100%
@@toxicmatrix1337 The good thing about the M-1 Carbines is that they weigh less than half of what the Garands weigh.
I was surprised how light it is.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Unloaded, the M-1 Carbine weighs 5.5 LBS while the Garand weighs 9.5-10 LBS.
Awesome!! Looks like a nice Freedom stick!! 🇺🇲💯
I love it!
“My prediction is correct” 😂
What can I say? lol!
This is why i love America.
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My dad preferred the 30 carbine to the m1 in the Korean War when he was in the artillery. He won several matches with it before Korea and I think he preferred the handling and light weight. Plus, for some reason that I cannot recall, he did not like the M1 at all, even though he loved he cartridge (30-06) for hunting.
👍👍Interesting, I need to grab a garand to compare them in detail.
I carried the M1 carbine when I first started with the Air Force in 1966. Not long after, it was replaced with the M16. I still likethe "old" rifle feel of the M1.
👍👍 I like that as well.