HEAVY METAL WAR: RECTIFIED - The making of the Transformers G1 cartoon!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- As originally presented live at UK convention TFNation 2017, this panel goes behind the scenes of a Transformers G1 episode and shows how it went from idea to finished product, looking at a variety of documents, artworks, and more - including the very first audio-visual G1 deleted scenes anywhere ever!
Raw footage of this panel was captured by attendees Raymond T. Fransman and Geoffrey Sproule, edited together by TFN host David Wallace, and further edited by me to incorporate the original images and videos.
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Megatron's ">:)" face is probably the best thing I've seen in a while.
Ikr! Too bad it didn't make it into the actual episode
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@@deadchannel7832 33:07
"The Basics" on: Sunbow Studios Transformers cartoon series.
Yes.
*Bat-Bee.*
That deleted sequence with Megatron transforming into a jet really legitimises 'Titans Return' Megatron's triple-changing.
Shattered Trousers when was that?
@@kaijucreeper1212 In the video, the one we're commenting on, Chris shows a deleted scene from "Heavy Metal War" in which Megatron transforms into a jet mode acquired from the Seekers power chip rectifiers.
34:48
Shattered Trousers that doesn’t answer my question
@@kaijucreeper1212 perhaps you ought to clarify, then, because even if it doesn't answer the question you meant, it answers the question you asked.
Scrounge would've transformed into a special arm for Devastator. There's no other like it.
I understand that reference!
It would be Devastator’s best Gun.
Scrounge? He turns into a begging bowl.
I remember watching this episode as a kid and feeling that certain parts felt rushed/unfinished. Knowing about the deleted/scrapped scenes now make the episode feel a lot more complete than it was originally.
Are we seriously not sure that Chris isn't real life Vector Sigma? I feel like he knows everything! Great job Chris 👍🏻
35:06 of course it's in black and white when they point out which one is Rumble...
Wait. I thought the White and Black one is Rumble.
Four months between finished script and airing on TV is goddamn insane, I hope the animators were paid well holy cow
I really have enjoyed these panels and hope we get to see more in the futute. Love your work Chris!
It so funny that megatron smiles when starscream talk to him on flight
Heavy Metal War is the best episode of g1 imo.
It's got everything you want from g1; Megatron vs Optimus Prime, the Dinobots, a Combiner.
I must’ve been 11 when it first aired and this was the first episode to feature a combiner. I was blown away by the episode and went to the Toy Store (Toys R Us) as quickly as I could to buy Devastator. Sure he was shorter than Soundwave in the toy version, but Devastator was still incredibly cool.
Didn’t grow up w the G1 cartoon (it was armada that I grew up with) but wow this was really interesting
Same.
@Samuel Cannon
That's pretty subjective. I also grew up on Beast Wars and the Unicron trilogy and only watched G1 last year. It was ok. It's a product of it's time but I do appreciate that episode titles were homages to old B movies, very old school sci-fi. For me it was seeing the old designs in action that was the major draw and I frankly prefer comic book depictions of G1 characters. Seeing the TF/Mars Attacks crossover comic and the Dreamwave G1 titles for example are a real trip. I'd recommend the original cartoon just for the sake of learning where old TF references and traditions/tropes originated from. A history lesson of you will, but that's just me. Although it does have it's moments. Like I said, it's ok. Not great, but not terrible either.
I get why they didn't use it but Gravedigger is such a good bad guy name.
Andrew Hall then gave the Buildmaster toy the "Gravedigger" identity (based on the Long Haul lookalike from "Dinobots Strike Back"), finally making him the eight Constructicon from "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4" (Hauler was made the seventh).
Well the new 84 comic series shows a yellow Hook on Cybertron in the distant past suggesting he's a different character to Hook so maybe they can retroactively use the alternate names on the yellow versions.
I always loved the little exchange between Sludge and Snarl.
Cos grave = death, and the kiddies probably needed to be spared from such things, .........in an episode with more violence than usual lmao
The name was already in use in the Bigfoot and the Monster Machines cartoon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot_and_the_Muscle_Machines
@@mikegeorge8132 Actually it wasn't. The final cartoon had the use of the Grave Digger truck but called it 'Graveroller' instead. I always assumed it was a censorship thing.
This is incredible Chris. Your doing Primus's work. Thank you!
I love the breakdown of the production of the silly little TV show! I wrote a paper on this process for a post-secondary class in my undergrad! Great work as always Chris, hope to see even more of these panels in the future!
6:10 in the morning here in Córdoba Argentina !! great saturday Chris !!!
It would be great to have this and all the videos with the option of subtitling in Spanish for those of us who live on this side of the world.
33:13 Someone should make a meme out of that face.
Chris McFeely is the g.o.a.t. Thank you for teaching us the secrets!
The comparison of fixed and unfixed animation got me wondering, how _do_ they make energy blasts and so forth look luminous in those cartoons?
According to certain sources about cel animation, they sometimes either use certain editing techniques or literal lights shining from the back of the animation cels.
That's brilliant. I've always been impressed by it, although Filmation did it better than most.
Often it was with "Backlit animation." Each frame of animation has a corresponding black frame that only has the laser beam on it. The black frame has a cut out hole in it that real light from behind is projected through. They double exposed the light onto the animation. It's the same sort of trick used for the first Tron movie.
Those deleted animatics give more insight of Megatron using the extra powers and making the battle real brutal, good job in this discovery.
In the storyboard at 29:51; Ironhide has a Decepticon badge.
Really enjoy watching this panels. those deleted scene, dialog and all the man behind scenes are really fun to watch. Your journey on this is really amazing. you guys are awesome! Thank you for making this.
Wow that was very very cool, especially seeing/hearing the new material at the end. I kinda wish they animated the part where Megatron transformed into a jet but I know that would have been a bit too ridiculous. Thank you for this video, it was fascinating (as all your videos are)! 😊
10:14 Just like everyone in the audience, I laughed. I never thought there were literal fingerprints
The "self explanatory" with Bumblebee and Cliffjumper really got me fbxhbxgbs
What a wonderful treat!!! Thanks for all this work you do for us fans of Transformers, Chris. This really was a gem with seeing the deleted scenes and scripts. I've always said that Ron Friedman is the unsung hero of the G1 cartoon. Between his "additional dialogues", Wally Burr's voice direction, and the phenomenal voice cast (and artists), it's why us kids who grew up with this stuff still hold it close to our hearts today.
Fun fact: The voice actor for bumblebee also voiced spider man and Peter Cullen voiced mysterio in the 80's spider man cartoon.
I'm glad you posted this! I've not got to go to a tf nation yet
And probably not for a long while, due to the virus.
oof yeah, I didn't really think about that
Those first two-and-a-half minutes are FASCINATING. I had no idea about the intricacies of the production of the show.
Hearing the crowd sneeze and cough got me on edge lol
Knowing the hoops they had to jump through, half thought out ideas and how freaking heartless some of these toy companies were. it's a miracle the show turned out as well as it did.
The bit with the error version of the cartoon was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen
I'm coming in a bit late to the game, but stellar job, Chris. Very informative and highly enjoyable!
I love behind the scenes stuff like this. It tickles my t-cog😉
Wow I'm so glad you put this video out. Heavy Metal War is my all time favorite g1 episode.
Thanks for the story idea, "tiny 'cons", i think the title explains the subject perfectly, the decepticons shrink.
It's truly a crime that Megatron's mischievous smile was cut.
Don't care how old this is. I just know it's going to be great
Kind of incredible Megatron in jet mode was recreated in Titans Return so faithfully to this animatic. I mean, there probably isn’t too many places to put his big ol’ fusion canon on a jet, but damn.
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Comic WritZ your a good man thank you
thank you for uploading this Chris, always love learning new things from G1
Thank you so very much for this amazing video Chris, I will treasure it - and the lessons it taught me - forever. How truly amazing it would've been to see the ENTIRE battle between Prime and Megatron animated on screen and see mighty Megatron transform into a Megatron coloured Seeker? Can you guys imagine the amount of toys there'd be out there of Megatron with a jet alt mode?
Then nobody could complain about it not being G1.
Huh, g1 Megs with a jet mode. Now I kinda wish I got the Titans Return version.
That was brilliant! Thanks to all for sharing this panel
Man, that deleted scene with Megatron randomly transforming into a jet, much to Optimus' surprise, would've probably made for a neat alternate toy for Megatron, I'll say. 😄 And yes, his devious smirk IS indeed very funny. X3 Great talk, Chris! I really enjoyed sitting through this in-depth analysis of Heavy Metal War, along with the improvements and unseen bits. :)
Chris Mcfleey is very knowledgeable about the world of Transformers. The one thing I want to know is what is hasbros plans for the studio series devastator toy line long haul seems to Mia for whatever reason and very expensive on ebay.
Fantastic! Thank you so much for this - I could watch this sort of thing all day long.
33:13 Megatron aka Megadick XD
This is a very fun presentation...it will never be rectified.
Chris be honest...
This was posted because you need more time on the Megatron video don’t you?
Megatron freaking turns into a jet which makes his other incarnations of having a jet mode now makes sense.
That was so cool! You never disappoint Chris!
Really interesting to see the dvd's using the non finished episodes and seeing the comparison to the correct ones.
This was fascinating and thoroughly enjoyable! Thanks for posting!
That was amazing! I wish we’d have seen megatron’s borrowed alt mode in the finished episode!
Now I want a wfc jet megatron
It's weird how on the UK VHS and the much more recent Shout! DVD, the sound FX foley is far too quiet. BUT on the UK DVD from Maverick, which has the season 2 opening, the audio is fine. I suppose they fixed it for syndiciation, unless the original broadcast was also ok?
Great video Chris 👍 very informative as usual
Great job Chris!
The 1980's G1 cartoons and the '86 G1 movie were okay, but they had a LOT of animation errors. I like the G1 toys better because most of them came first and not their cartoon models.
Really enjoyed this, thank you.
Chris is that you cool dude
Yep, that's me!
BIG fan BTW
The most interesting thing about this is Megatron being a Quasi-Triple-Changer now that he has a jet form
In the 80's there actually was a design sketch created for a toy that would transform between robot modes for Megatron and Skywarp as well as Skywarp's jet mode. A scan of this image can be found at the URL below:
tfsource.com/blog/2020/05/22/countdown-10-unreleased-g1-transformers-toys-that-still-need-to-be-seen/
Now that's a lot of info and insight on the creation of the episodes. Oh Hasbro. If only you gave your writers some room space for fleshing the characters out more.
Thanks again and have been
-18:27 The DVD episodes were well mixed up
Wow, this was enlightening. I am glad there is work being done on the Visionaries. I'll have to check and see what DVDs I have. Pretty sure its the Rhino set, but I could be wrong
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is very informative. Thanks for putting this up.
Great episode!
Dang, now I have get the Shout Factory set. Got the Kid Rhino collection when each box set came out and seemingly never noticed the production errors tell you showed them off.
A revelation. Mind blown here
22:45 I would totally buy(if I had the money) a Masterpiece Optimus Prime that's colored orange just to commemorate this single frame if HasTak or a Third-Party made it.
This is such a good presentation great job!
Was that thew who said "two weeks?" it sounded so much like him 😂
That was super awesome thank you for sharing
This is really cool
ever notice that the background beep beep beep in Teletraan 1's alarm (besides the high pitched whooping alarm) is exactly like the alarm in Star Trek The Motion Picture?
Fascinating!
Great Stuff, as usual!
First time watching this. Amazing.
That was really cool
Damn this was a good time
We need a toy of G1 Megatron that turns into a jet.
Fantastic video, would love to see stuff on visionaries in the future.
Well done, and very interesting. Thanks for this.
Would love to have you on some TF panels at Dublin Comic Con whenever the world gets back to normal again
Funny how after stitching together storyboards and recovered audio, maybe the best bit is a character saying nothing.
The basics on tracks
Duude that's my favourite track
Wow I can't believe they had to work off of black and white photos of the toys that seems rough
I'd totally go to a live "the basics"
Chris, have you see Dr Smoov's Heavy Metal War?
Hey Chris, you mentioned the fact that the UK has only had the incorrectly animated releases of the DVD boxsets, but I purchased this Deluxe Edition Season 1 Boxset released by a company called Maverick, that had special fan art drawn on the cover and in the inlay, and it's a great looking set, and I also don't recall any animation errors that you get in the Rhino (and I'm assuming Metrodome) equivalent.
Not Gonna Lie Someday I gotta visit the BotCon.......cause I never was on ComicCon
I've been wondering lately, but who animated "Roll For It"? Did you notice how odd Optimus Prime looks when Starscream runs past him and there's a rainbow as Starscream flies off from the dam. And why do all the robots slip, like they sort of slip before they transform. I've slowed down when Reflector is leaving Dr Alkazars lab and it's legs are super long. If anybody has any info on this please share
Those Rhino DVDs were all messed up. People on the Transformers Usenet group were aware of the issues and would tell Rhino about them after the season 1 set was released, but they repeated a lot of the same issues in the subsequent seasons' sets.
In addition to the mistakes shown in this video, Rhino also messed up the audio tracks by adding in sound effects that weren't supposed to be there, in an attempt at making a 5.1 audio track.
There was only one thing I remember being improved by Rhino: they corrected the speed or pitch on the episode "War Dawn", which aired with part of the episode being played to slow resulting in the characters voices being pitched down. The Shout Factory version of "War Dawn" shows the episode as it originally aired, with part of the episode being played at the incorrect speed. (IIRC, they asked fans on their website's forum if they should fix this issue and not everyone agreed. Some wanted the issue to be fixed, and others wanted everything to be exactly as aired. I wish they would have fixed it, though.)
It was hard to impossible to hear you over the cartoon audio. Titans Return Megatron’s jet mode makes more sense now.
Next The basics on Hot rod/Rodimus Prime, please
Dear chris Mcfeely Please do a review of transmutate please