The transmission is the first failure point with throwing high hp at these trucks. You can easily get the engine over 700hp, but the stock 10R80 transmission will only take around 600 lb/ft of torque before things go south.
I’d be curious to see how the Vortech kit compares. I love how Vortech mounted the head unit way down low and uses the shock air box… Rather than pulling hot air off the engine.
Interesting. I been looking at the ProCharger for my Gen1 Coyote truck. Ease of install, price and streetable gains. Plus i have a 18+ GT and Boss manifold on hand to swap if needed. Any input on the Gen1 pro charger?
Great video. Very informative. On a lifted 2021 Supercrew with 4:56 gears running E-85 stock motor which blower would be the most fun to drive? The P1X or a Whipple 3.0 or other
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I have ran the 4:56 with the 6 speed and now with the 10 speed. They pull very hard but if i had to do it over agin I would have went with Ford 4:10 gears with the plans of going forced induction. The gearing of the 10 speed is crazy in rear wheel drive I can break the 37s lose on takoff and into 2nd with a slight chirp going into 3rd with just a tune on e-85.@@armandoalvarado2710
We are running E85 with a 3.5" pulley on our Whipple shop truck and that is more than plenty for a street truck. Around 700whp. No one really knows yet the breaking point with these engines, but there are always risks when increasing power on a factory built motor and transmission. Then, how you treat the truck is a factor with reliability too.
I have a 2022 f150 supercrew and i always thought it was a gen 3 coyote. im thinking of trying vortech kit route which is more budget friendly and hoping to reach 700whp with triple pump fore level 2 id 1050x will i need a crank support at this power level? Or need anything else im missing thanks.@@oztuned
@@CarGuyKramif you are running an accessory drive spun vortech or procharger then a crank support isn't necessary. You aren't putting much additional stress on the crank pulley/snout. It's when you go to an independent drive that hangs another pulley off of the front of the crank you are putting extra shear stress on the crank snout because the load is now extended further outwards creating a leverage point that's going to make the pulleys and snout flex to the side applying the force.
All these f150 builds are bolt on hp with no internal work that’s VALID to support over 800 horse. That’s the part nobody sees or talks bout of course but bolting on pro charger and a set of injectors are a days worth work like swapping alternators and at a noble 5-600 hp that’s fun and reliable but once your up above 14 pounds boost and or 750-800 hp you are tuning constantly to get anything more than a rich or poor mixture not supporting daily driving. If it’s just your weekend weapon and you don’t drive 100+ miles a week that works and if don’t mind constantly sinking money into various changes and parts that’s for you. If it’s your daily, a single turbo or 3L max supercharger will be more than enough for reliability and I don’t wanna talk. Common sense should explain this as it’s not a hypothesis it’s the analytics of the COYOTE no matter what Gen you have. My man is intelligent but this is a test truck that some parts are donated so no cares on their part and it’s appreciated them allowing us to test our trucks platform on their dime
Interesting changes from the earlier kits, badass truck for sure, bet that is a blast to drive!
The transmission is the first failure point with throwing high hp at these trucks. You can easily get the engine over 700hp, but the stock 10R80 transmission will only take around 600 lb/ft of torque before things go south.
Bullshit.
I’d be curious to see how the Vortech kit compares.
I love how Vortech mounted the head unit way down low and uses the shock air box… Rather than pulling hot air off the engine.
I've been eyeing the vortech kit for my 23.. ran them on my fox back in the say and had good results
Looks like JJ's shop? Nice numbers for this set up for sure.
Interesting. I been looking at the ProCharger for my Gen1 Coyote truck. Ease of install, price and streetable gains. Plus i have a 18+ GT and Boss manifold on hand to swap if needed.
Any input on the Gen1 pro charger?
Great video. Very informative.
On a lifted 2021 Supercrew with 4:56 gears running E-85 stock motor which blower would be the most fun to drive? The P1X or a Whipple 3.0 or other
Thanks! Contact us by email on this and our forced induction experts can help determine what would be the best power adder for your setup. Tuning@OzTuning.com
David, how does the truck ride, feel, and pull with those gears?
I have ran the 4:56 with the 6 speed and now with the 10 speed. They pull very hard but if i had to do it over agin I would have went with Ford 4:10 gears with the plans of going forced induction. The gearing of the 10 speed is crazy in rear wheel drive I can break the 37s lose on takoff and into 2nd with a slight chirp going into 3rd with just a tune on e-85.@@armandoalvarado2710
Were oil pump gears/crank sprocket done on this truck? I’ve heard 21+ f150 5.0’s were belt driven and that there is no need
No need in gears
@@themiketillmanWow, stock OPG and crank sprocket pushing that power is wild
There are no OPGs on 21-23 coyote f150s. It's kevlar belt driven. This is the 4th gen coyote; similar to the '24 coyote mustangs.
@@thefastsparrow1295gen 4 coyote got rid of OPG and went belt driven.
What’s the recommended “safe” power levels for a gen 4?
We are running E85 with a 3.5" pulley on our Whipple shop truck and that is more than plenty for a street truck. Around 700whp.
No one really knows yet the breaking point with these engines, but there are always risks when increasing power on a factory built motor and transmission. Then, how you treat the truck is a factor with reliability too.
I have a 2022 f150 supercrew and i always thought it was a gen 3 coyote. im thinking of trying vortech kit route which is more budget friendly and hoping to reach 700whp with triple pump fore level 2 id 1050x will i need a crank support at this power level? Or need anything else im missing thanks.@@oztuned
@@CarGuyKramif you are running an accessory drive spun vortech or procharger then a crank support isn't necessary. You aren't putting much additional stress on the crank pulley/snout. It's when you go to an independent drive that hangs another pulley off of the front of the crank you are putting extra shear stress on the crank snout because the load is now extended further outwards creating a leverage point that's going to make the pulleys and snout flex to the side applying the force.
@@RammSnipe ty very much for the knowledge!
Those number on 93 octane?
Funnnnnnnnnnnn!
Can I get a free pro charger kit too? I’ll “test” it out too
All these f150 builds are bolt on hp with no internal work that’s VALID to support over 800 horse. That’s the part nobody sees or talks bout of course but bolting on pro charger and a set of injectors are a days worth work like swapping alternators and at a noble 5-600 hp that’s fun and reliable but once your up above 14 pounds boost and
or 750-800 hp you are tuning constantly to get anything more than a rich or poor mixture not supporting daily driving. If it’s just your weekend weapon and you don’t drive 100+ miles a week that works and if don’t mind constantly sinking money into various changes and parts that’s for you. If it’s your daily, a single turbo or 3L max supercharger will be more than enough for reliability and I don’t wanna talk. Common sense should explain this as it’s not a hypothesis it’s the analytics of the COYOTE no matter what Gen you have. My man is intelligent but this is a test truck that some parts are donated so no cares on their part and it’s appreciated them allowing us to test our trucks platform on their dime
Was this tuned with a SCTx4 or HP Tunners
@stotzmitchell HP Tuners.
Promo>SM 🙃