When this review was published, i was so amazed at how beautiful this car was, That i bought the same exact car 3 months later. almost a year later still loving it just as much as the day i watched this video if not more. Thank You!
All reviewers make too big of deal of the 3 vs 4 nameplates. Who cares. There is not 1 single person who would say "I wanted a 3 coupe, and since it has a 4, I won't buy it"
The 4 coupe is by far my favourite BMW on the market right now. I personally own a 320d coupe and I must say that the 4 is just so similar, yet so diferent ... maybe better in a lot of ways.
I agree - I'll never understand why they didn't keep the 3 a coupe and make the 4 a sedan. 3 series coupe has been the benchmark for coupes since the 70s.
the proportions of the car are different. it's longer, wider and lower, which gives it a much more appealing appearance. perhaps educate yourself before you post?
Nice review. Fair and balanced. Though, i prefer the looks of the older e92. I especially dislike the swoopy swirly thing in the fenders of the 4 series.
I recently bought a luxury edition 420d xdrive. it's so fuel efficient and good to drive. I love it. I haven't really liked the look of BMW in my price range however when I spotted the 4 series I couldn't help but admire the look of this car, you don't need an M series to feel good.
at the end of the day it is still a 3 series, looks better than the old one, but mechanically and even stylistically at the end of the day, a couple of inches makes a car look better, not justify it as a new car
lets be honest the reason why BMW made 4 series its because of Audi A5 really. Since it came out it stole a lot of sales from 3 series so BMW decided to buid a car which is similar, so its an answer to A5 .But personally i dont know which one i'll choose between the two coz they are both stunning
Its mentioned in quite a few old magazine articles I have, even as far back as 1990/91. Seems as though its been on the table to some degree for quite some time.
Hiya the explanation on the 4 Series is excellent, and I've bought my self a 4 Series 420i M Sport Coupe on a 2014 plate with 184 BHP for my 30th Birthday and I must say that I love it!! although BMW in Warwick are due to deliver the car to me at the end of the month here to Harrow in London and I will drive it on the motorway sooner rather than later. The 420i M Sport will indeed replace my 2007 BMW 320D M Sport 163 BHP. :-D
xcar gr8 review. Thats exactly how i'd spec my new bimmer. 435i with that blue color and M-package. Cant forget the uber manual gearbox. Is it worth trading my e46 m3 for or should I wait for the new M4? and ppl plz get over the name change thing, u cant do anything about it.
i have to say i was very suprised that bmw went with 4 series but i have to say its a lovely car even though i prefer the front end of the 3 series coupe M that looked deadly.
I completely agree with this video. There is too much noise and fuss being kicked up about the name change. In the larger scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. BMW haven't taken away the stylish and sporty coupe. They are still making it, just with a different moniker. When Apple did the same thing with their new iOS 7 design, it was called "keeping up with the times". And boy does this 4'er looks good and I'm sure it will handle well too. Cant wait for the M4, the concept looks awesome!
Am I missing something? In the US the M is totally different from the 335i. I see the M badge and I see the 435i. Is this a European thing or is it just an M package on the 435i? Never seen an M on the body of the car for the M package in the US
I wish the side air vent thingamajigs were body color or was omitted altogether. I am going to order mine in Alpine white and already have plants to have the vents painted.
Can somebody help me. A new 430d or 435 i m-pack 4 series or with only 2000 euro's more a 640d m pack from one year old and 15 000 km? What should i do guys? I drive also just 11 000 km in a year.
It's rather good looking, spacious, comfortable, economical, and as you said, a good sportscar home for when you've had a bad day at work. It's a really good car. Why do I want to hate it?! We could say that BMW and not the 4 series per se is the one to blame (in a "don't hate the player, hate the game" sort of way) but I still can't help but looking at it feeling that the world now won't have new M3's because of it. I don't think there's been another car that cause such turmoil in my life.
Yes, with xdrive. And Audi NEEDS the AWD just to stay on the road, specially in the corners. After all, it has like all Audis (not R8) it's engine IN FRONT of the front axle and will like all Audis understeer 100%. But AWD, torque vectoring and a lot of electronics will dial down the understeer to 70%.
Audi, BMW, and Mercedes all have this sort of cycle of copying and competition with each other. Sometimes good small styling ques and technologies are good enough that the others will adapt their styles and technology to match it.
Well but you do know why they put the engines there in the first place? Bad for dynamics but good for packaging and interior space. Anyways, putting the engine on top of the front axle is not the best solution either, if anything you should put it between the axles and nobody can do that with a r6 front engine, those are quite long. You just can't have perfect dynamics in a 4 seater...
Personally I love all german cars but lets see the most expensive car within the BMW auto group is a $400K Rolls Royce. But Audi being part of the Volkswagen group their engineering (mainly engine and AWD system) is in the $3.9 million Lamborghini Veneno and $2.4 million Bugatti Veyron Super Sport. so let that sink in.
"Hey guys, I was editing the new Xcar vid and I thought it could really use a random mediocre-production-quality dubstep interlude in the middle for no reason. Thoughts?" "BRILLIANT! IN IT GOES."
But compared to Audi BMW has most of it's engine behind the front axle. It's so obvious when you test drive a BMW and an Audi. While the BMW turns like it's a natural movement (the average description is that it turns around your hip) the Audi is fighting and forcing it. Audi just feels heavier as a consequence of that engine placement. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but more for Autobahn cruising at very high speed, not sporty driving.
The Veneno and Veyron are hypercars, they show what's possible with todays technology in the automotive industry, yet it doesn't proof if a car company is further ahead than the other. Believe me,if BMW wanted to build a hypercar, they could do so no problem. If you are about engineering, just take a look at BMWs engines. 61 engine of the year awards compared to Volkswagen AG's ( Porsche and Audi included) 33. BMW doesn't need a hypercar too proof their know-how.
Beautiful car but I still think BMW should have made the two door the 3 series and the four door the 4 series. Regardless, great stuff from BMW. I would take a look at the 435i but I just bought a new Audi S5 - maybe next time.
It's nice, no doubt. Good to drive, that much is true. Quite a looker as well. It'll be a great BMW, and car. I'm still waiting for the owners to improve upon themselves.
All those awards (for whatever worth they have) and still no supercar. The i8 is a shame for any serious enthusiast. Don't get me wrong: in my family everyone has been driving BMW for ages, i wanted one myself for quite some time. Still other car manufacturers can build good cars as well and even better ones too. You are right that they don't need to prove how to make a supercar but on the other hand those customers will then buy AMGs, R8s, Lambo, Porsche etc I thought they wanted everything ?
Yeah, it's a good looking car. But misses that "ooohw" factor the E46 coupe had when it first appeared... and the same happened when the E92 came along. This 4 is a good looking machine, but not spectacular IMO
dude its still a 435i, what do u mean just a 435i?? don't forget this car is better than all its rivals in its class atm doing 0-100Km in just 5.1 seconds , the out going M3 Convertible did 0-100km in 5.3sec and the M3 coupe did 0-100km in 4.9sec.. don't underestimate this car. . M4 will be built on top of this car. if u add M package to a 420d/420i it will have M badge, in that case u can say its just a 420d. that's just not rite
Whatever this car's correct name should've been, I like it. Probably because I like both coupes and BMW, but I also think it gives a nice driving feeling. (And I will sure not like the convertible :p)
See I love this car....fast smooth sporty comfortable economical and good looking....but one thing I don't get is the price! Ya its a little different than 2 door 3 series but with options this thing easily goes well into the 60k range and maybe even 70...the 3 would be like a 50k car with options....I get its bmw but no one wants to pay 20k for atleast imo a worse name(from 335 to 435)
trevor philips it's cheaper now and cost 40k for m sport 435i, so with almost all options will cost 50k I checked on bmw website and for 50k you can have almost all options with m sport package and around 53-54k all options and high class car with 6 series feeling, but for me stock m sport + adaptive suspension and driving assistant for 45k will be ok, because you have so many thingsin stadard you don;t really need. Wait 2 years and you will buy it for 25k will all options and 20k miles on the clock, which is still a bargain and 50% price save in the pocket
Sorry Bezor but since you apparently have not driven any recent Audi Model with decent AWD and Sports Diff i don't think your comments on "typical Audi behavior" are invalid. I can compare it since i have driven both, the F30 335i and the S5. And the S5 wins hands down. The BMW has more understeer by now, but since you haven't driven either - you can't tell :)
When this review was published, i was so amazed at how beautiful this car was, That i bought the same exact car 3 months later. almost a year later still loving it just as much as the day i watched this video if not more.
Thank You!
+kofieam3 had my 430d for 2 months. it's amazing and just so enjoyable to drive. it's awesome for long journeys, effortlessly eating up the miles
kofieam3 which engine did you get?
All reviewers make too big of deal of the 3 vs 4 nameplates. Who cares. There is not 1 single person who would say "I wanted a 3 coupe, and since it has a 4, I won't buy it"
Yes I agree. Reviewers and purists seem to be really hung up on the series number. I don't get it.
this guy really reminds me of Richard Hammond, which is a good thing keep up the good work
That's exactly what he wants you to think!
The 4 coupe is by far my favourite BMW on the market right now. I personally own a 320d coupe and I must say that the 4 is just so similar, yet so diferent ... maybe better in a lot of ways.
I agree - I'll never understand why they didn't keep the 3 a coupe and make the 4 a sedan.
3 series coupe has been the benchmark for coupes since the 70s.
I have the 2l turbo. the 428i. I love it.
A much better look than the current 3 series. Seen a few in person, great proportions.
Well its only 2 doors less than the current 3 series! So I don't know what you've seen!
the proportions of the car are different. it's longer, wider and lower, which gives it a much more appealing appearance. perhaps educate yourself before you post?
Zapp Rogerstein Your talking so much sense, they are even more beautiful in person
Nice review. Fair and balanced. Though, i prefer the looks of the older e92. I especially dislike the swoopy swirly thing in the fenders of the 4 series.
I recently bought a luxury edition 420d xdrive. it's so fuel efficient and good to drive. I love it. I haven't really liked the look of BMW in my price range however when I spotted the 4 series I couldn't help but admire the look of this car, you don't need an M series to feel good.
I bet these would sound awesome with a custom exhaust.
at the end of the day it is still a 3 series, looks better than the old one, but mechanically and even stylistically at the end of the day, a couple of inches makes a car look better, not justify it as a new car
Beautiful. BMW gets better and better.
LOL, you smoking weed? Its ugly. The concept car was lovely, this was ruined in the wind tunnel. Ugly.
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The 435i alone had traffic slowing down. This was an alpine white one, base model lol.
TheBlackIdentety You haven't heard the M4 in real life then lol.
Best review of this car, ever!
3 series or 4 series it's just a badge only a nerdy car journalist would care about the change of badge. There are greater things to worry about!!
lets be honest the reason why BMW made 4 series its because of Audi A5 really. Since it came out it stole a lot of sales from 3 series so BMW decided to buid a car which is similar, so its an answer to A5 .But personally i dont know which one i'll choose between the two coz they are both stunning
turbos? it has a single twinscroll turbo. That's a diffrence.
Its mentioned in quite a few old magazine articles I have, even as far back as 1990/91. Seems as though its been on the table to some degree for quite some time.
My guess is that it's an M-sport with all the fancy body parts and nice wheels and such
Im surprise it is out already we havent heard anything in Australia yet
Just got this car! And it is awesome!!!! :)
I love how you mention the exhaust note in almost every review
Hiya the explanation on the 4 Series is excellent, and I've bought my self a 4 Series 420i M Sport Coupe on a 2014 plate with 184 BHP for my 30th Birthday and I must say that I love it!! although BMW in Warwick are due to deliver the car to me at the end of the month here to Harrow in London and I will drive it on the motorway sooner rather than later. The 420i M Sport will indeed replace my 2007 BMW 320D M Sport 163 BHP. :-D
It's a M Design Package for the 435i, only the design and subtle things are changed:).
Agreed. But I don't think it shits on the A5 enough considering how old it is now.
xcar gr8 review. Thats exactly how i'd spec my new bimmer. 435i with that blue color and M-package. Cant forget the uber manual gearbox. Is it worth trading my e46 m3 for or should I wait for the new M4? and ppl plz get over the name change thing, u cant do anything about it.
i have to say i was very suprised that bmw went with 4 series but i have to say its a lovely car even though i prefer the front end of the 3 series coupe M that looked deadly.
I completely agree with this video. There is too much noise and fuss being kicked up about the name change. In the larger scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. BMW haven't taken away the stylish and sporty coupe. They are still making it, just with a different moniker. When Apple did the same thing with their new iOS 7 design, it was called "keeping up with the times".
And boy does this 4'er looks good and I'm sure it will handle well too. Cant wait for the M4, the concept looks awesome!
just got my one :)
Well, the M4 came out, and I do want one
The rear end looks a bit like the old Nissan 200SX (Australia) Not sure whether you had it in Europe.
Am I missing something? In the US the M is totally different from the 335i. I see the M badge and I see the 435i. Is this a European thing or is it just an M package on the 435i? Never seen an M on the body of the car for the M package in the US
it has M pack on...mechanically enhanced and probably interior changes...
so it is different than a normal 435i
I wish the side air vent thingamajigs were body color or was omitted altogether. I am going to order mine in Alpine white and already have plants to have the vents painted.
test drove the 435i xdrive yesterday. truely brilliant.
Can somebody help me. A new 430d or 435 i m-pack 4 series or with only 2000 euro's more a 640d m pack from one year old and 15 000 km? What should i do guys? I drive also just 11 000 km in a year.
It's rather good looking, spacious, comfortable, economical, and as you said, a good sportscar home for when you've had a bad day at work. It's a really good car. Why do I want to hate it?! We could say that BMW and not the 4 series per se is the one to blame (in a "don't hate the player, hate the game" sort of way) but I still can't help but looking at it feeling that the world now won't have new M3's because of it. I don't think there's been another car that cause such turmoil in my life.
Yes, with xdrive. And Audi NEEDS the AWD just to stay on the road, specially in the corners. After all, it has like all Audis (not R8) it's engine IN FRONT of the front axle and will like all Audis understeer 100%. But AWD, torque vectoring and a lot of electronics will dial down the understeer to 70%.
Probably just an indication for the m sport line, similar to the s-line badges on audi's. Just a 435i? It's one step below the m4...
may i ask where you got your research from??
435i or e92 M3 Competition package?
I like the Richard Hammond impression at 1:05
will there be a 435is?
Audi, BMW, and Mercedes all have this sort of cycle of copying and competition with each other. Sometimes good small styling ques and technologies are good enough that the others will adapt their styles and technology to match it.
This or slk 250 full option?
It shows that a BMW, while running Mini and Rolls Royce, doesn't have the same blood shaking power that Audi engineers can make in their cars.
Single thing i would change on that car is to replace the "4" on the back with a "3" then it would be complete :D
Well but you do know why they put the engines there in the first place? Bad for dynamics but good for packaging and interior space. Anyways, putting the engine on top of the front axle is not the best solution either, if anything you should put it between the axles and nobody can do that with a r6 front engine, those are quite long. You just can't have perfect dynamics in a 4 seater...
The more I look at this car the more I like it!
What does that have to do with anything?
Personally I love all german cars but lets see the most expensive car within the BMW auto group is a $400K Rolls Royce. But Audi being part of the Volkswagen group their engineering (mainly engine and AWD system) is in the $3.9 million Lamborghini Veneno and $2.4 million Bugatti Veyron Super Sport. so let that sink in.
this guy was spot on about the name change
love that jacket man, what brand is it?
Absolutely loving this blue colour that all the latest "M" cars seem to be being released in.
you need to put out more reviews. youre quite good as an outfit. how about a merc e coupe?
who edits your videos they are awsome
About to get one but am stuck on choosing xdrive or not...
MrJamkev get x drive,I have 335 coupe Rwd torque is just too much to grip, always fish tailing
the same with ///M X50d or something like that :D or ///M550d
You do realize that the ///M badge has been on regular bmw's with factory "sports-parts" for ages
I agree
It has M bumpers and rims. My 316i with 105 HP also has M on it
Why does it have the ///M logo on the side, but isn't?
m sport package
I think this one has the M Sport pack.
Yes, just like the guy above you said...
This is the best looking car that BMW is currently making. OMFG. I'm in love
"Hey guys, I was editing the new Xcar vid and I thought it could really use a random mediocre-production-quality dubstep interlude in the middle for no reason. Thoughts?"
"BRILLIANT! IN IT GOES."
A 300+ hp BMW coupe with "a little hint of sportiness"? The times we live in...
They are real cars. Bmw are without doubt the best cars you can buy on a budget. Brilliant
BMW's lineup is becoming evolutionary, not sure if it makes it boring or attractive to buyers with existing BMWs...
beautiful car! amazing
Do bmw know that in Asian markets, the number 4 is associated with death? So much so that many building floors are numbered 1 2 3 3a 5 6 etc.
Couldn't find anything on the interwebs..
I am hoping the M4 will be exciting. As of late the M cars seems to have gotten heavy and lost some of the sophistication they seemed to have before.
But compared to Audi BMW has most of it's engine behind the front axle. It's so obvious when you test drive a BMW and an Audi. While the BMW turns like it's a natural movement (the average description is that it turns around your hip) the Audi is fighting and forcing it. Audi just feels heavier as a consequence of that engine placement. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but more for Autobahn cruising at very high speed, not sporty driving.
great review, just can't wait to drive this car.
The Veneno and Veyron are hypercars, they show what's possible with todays technology in the automotive industry, yet it doesn't proof if a car company is further ahead than the other. Believe me,if BMW wanted to build a hypercar, they could do so no problem. If you are about engineering, just take a look at BMWs engines. 61 engine of the year awards compared to Volkswagen AG's ( Porsche and Audi included) 33. BMW doesn't need a hypercar too proof their know-how.
Beautiful car but I still think BMW should have made the two door the 3 series and the four door the 4 series. Regardless, great stuff from BMW. I would take a look at the 435i but I just bought a new Audi S5 - maybe next time.
From a styling standpoint? No, an A5 is one of the best looking cars under $60k out there.
I like the E92 styling’s better.
i too R.I.P E-Series
I love the style of this video. Might be just the accent, but it somehow reminds me of top gear ;) Gotta watch more of your vids
It's nice, no doubt. Good to drive, that much is true. Quite a looker as well. It'll be a great BMW, and car. I'm still waiting for the owners to improve upon themselves.
All those awards (for whatever worth they have) and still no supercar. The i8 is a shame for any serious enthusiast. Don't get me wrong: in my family everyone has been driving BMW for ages, i wanted one myself for quite some time.
Still other car manufacturers can build good cars as well and even better ones too. You are right that they don't need to prove how to make a supercar but on the other hand those customers will then buy AMGs, R8s, Lambo, Porsche etc
I thought they wanted everything ?
Good review,keep up the good work
Yeah, it's a good looking car. But misses that "ooohw" factor the E46 coupe had when it first appeared... and the same happened when the E92 came along.
This 4 is a good looking machine, but not spectacular IMO
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dude its still a 435i, what do u mean just a 435i?? don't forget this car is better than all its rivals in its class atm doing 0-100Km in just 5.1 seconds , the out going M3 Convertible did 0-100km in 5.3sec and the M3 coupe did 0-100km in 4.9sec.. don't underestimate this car. . M4 will be built on top of this car.
if u add M package to a 420d/420i it will have M badge, in that case u can say its just a 420d. that's just not rite
Whatever this car's correct name should've been, I like it. Probably because I like both coupes and BMW, but I also think it gives a nice driving feeling.
(And I will sure not like the convertible :p)
Its M Tuned, but not an M Car. Lots of cars from the BMW range are like that
See I love this car....fast smooth sporty comfortable economical and good looking....but one thing I don't get is the price! Ya its a little different than 2 door 3 series but with options this thing easily goes well into the 60k range and maybe even 70...the 3 would be like a 50k car with options....I get its bmw but no one wants to pay 20k for atleast imo a worse name(from 335 to 435)
trevor philips it's cheaper now and cost 40k for m sport 435i, so with almost all options will cost 50k
I checked on bmw website and for 50k you can have almost all options with m sport package and around 53-54k all options and high class car with 6 series feeling, but for me stock m sport + adaptive suspension and driving assistant for 45k will be ok, because you have so many thingsin stadard you don;t really need. Wait 2 years and you will buy it for 25k will all options and 20k miles on the clock, which is still a bargain and 50% price save in the pocket
I've made my protest known. I've sold my E93 M Sport and bought an E46 M3 Coupe. I don't do quiet refinement!
my next car is definitely a 435i :) and i like the blue color on this one!:)
It's the 335i M Sport Coupe, and the true 0-60 is more like 4.8.
E92 M3 + CP
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I'd rather you talk more about the car in detail than going on with the heritage and their marketing strategy.
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Don't know what you mean by losing sophistication. They are gaining weight because they are becoming more sophisticated, not less
Funny how its an Audi Ad right before this video
The M badge on the side of the car is killing me right now. That badge should never be on a non-M car.
Why wouldn't BMW make the 4 series their 4 door M3's? It's a "4" door car, and is probably a little bigger then a coupé M3.
Sorry Bezor but since you apparently have not driven any recent Audi Model with decent AWD and Sports Diff i don't think your comments on "typical Audi behavior" are invalid.
I can compare it since i have driven both, the F30 335i and the S5. And the S5 wins hands down. The BMW has more understeer by now, but since you haven't driven either - you can't tell :)
Lol stop fucking lying! Audi will always have more understeer and will be WAY more boring in the turns than a BMW. Nice try VW fanboy!
Ok this has an ///M badge on it...but why..I mean the ///M4 should have one but this car is just a 435i
Want this car so badly
Its just a badge guys I don't see the big deal, they're still a "3 Series" lol still kickass and yes I still want an M3 er M4!!! :)