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Prefer the WW2 and 1 . But this is a good one. I like your laughing, really cheers me up. I'm not going to buy all the equipment and game. It's far to complicated for me. I much prefer watching you play..I like to play real racing 3 . It's a simple game that doesn't involve to much quick thinking. Please keep posting I love watching. 🇬🇧
Loving these 'bandit unknown' duels. Consistently shows a serious knowledge of your opposition's pro's/con's can be more important than what plane you have... or are up against! (Raptor possibly excluded? 😉)
The raptor is so stupidly good. It’s rare to beat one. I’ve gotten in my fair few fights with them in game, only won 3 times because the raptor pilot got over confident
A properly simulated Raptor is very easy to beat... It is called Time. They are very screwed on operational percentage and apparently have a lot of rust issues as well, coupled with Lockheed's failed strongarming and missing subcontractors for the Raptor, all of these are factors that have set it up for an early retirement. So if they had taken a few pages out of the lawbook for Right to Repair, they could have at least kept them around a bit longer, but more expensive on maintenance.
@@kevinwilliams3804 Provided it makes it to the merge... A platform can be as fancy as it wants, but if it is hard to maintain, get parts for or keep up logistically, it is an useless war machine. There is a reason why the old F-15 will stick around longer than the Raptor despite being a less capable airframe.
Your videos are honestly some of the best out there when it comes to DCS content. Been binge watching all of your videos and the quality of your videos just keep on improving
That's why I love aircraft from the generation of the mirage. Much skill required, high payoff. I don't even play dcs I just love your videos and how you explain dogfighting
@@GrowlingSidewinder Be nice to see you play ball in the good old 29 too. You have certainly honed your mig skills lately. It's not perfect, but certainly a pilot's plane.
Jester walking back to base... Boss: 19 tomcats have been destroyed and 19 pilots have been killed. How come you are the only comes back in perfect health out of all of those missions? Jester: ............... (looks around) ..................... ................... Guess Im just lucky sir!
I think the Mirage is very underrated. In the hands of a skilled pilot it’s a deadly fighter. As you have just amply proven. That being said I don’t know how it is in BVR
Yes, the mirage can be very lethal in dogfight, in BVR it is good, I have tried it, but the 530 super is a missile with very short range in the game, it is also a semi-active radar guided missile, also called FOX-1 , so you have to keep the lock on the target all the time.
Excellent explanation of the offset two circle! Very enlightening, Also thank you for explaining how to counter, that would have been my next question. Keep up the great work.
Might've already been mentioned by someone else - or you might even know anyway - but there's a switch under the HUD that'll give you a shoot cue with the Mirage too. I haven't tried it because I don't get to gun stuff that often, but it can pop up when they're part way down the snake.
This is really interesting, because it is for you first. I laughed with you, not as you usually do when you shoot an adversary down, but when Jester pulled one on him. Love❤️
The Mirage's gunsight has hindsight logic. In an American or Russian plane, you shoot when the pipper is on the target. In the Mirage, you shoot before the pipper reaches the target, and if there's a bullet at the bandit's range when the pipper crosses him, THEN you'll hit. It's great for crossing snapshots, but basically impossible to get a tracking shot unless the other guy really cooperates. The pipper isn't really a sight, it's a range mark on a virtual line of tracers. And people keep saying the Mirage can't do a rate fight, but now it's such a meme that no one even tries to hold corner speed. By the numbers, it will rate about as well as an Eagle or a Flanker. It's not a top-tier rate fighter like the Hornet or Tomcat, but it's not a MiG-21 either UNLESS you yank all your speed away. At 200 knots it really is a total dog; the high-alpha vortex state is a great feature of delta wings, but it's not the only regime they work in. Keep it between 350 and 400 and the other guy will have to really fly correctly to come around the circle on you. The Eagle guys have been learning to think like a Mirage, now the Mirage guys need to take a moment to think like an Eagle. They're not so different.
Jester loaded up his shorts when those rounds whizzed by and ejected. All that extra wind in the cockpit blew Cougar's kneepad papers everywhere. Great stuff GS. You're holding clinics up there.
I would LOVE an “advanced maneuvers” tutorial on establishing the offset two-circle. First time I’ve ever seen it. Your diagram was helpful, as was the tacview but I’d love a mechanical breakdown from the cockpit of setting it up. Would also be curious to see a breakdown of how to counter someone moving into the offset two-circle-if you’re willing to teach us how to kill you, that is. Just got my VR headset on Black Friday, real excited to jump into DCS and IL2 with it!
Man ... you're my hero! I have enthusiastically reviewed almost everything you have done on the topic of DCS in the past month and you really delighted me! I guess because of the shouted movie Top Gun and F-14 which really looks "dark" I intended to buy an F-14 module but I was scared of all that powerful electronics in the cabin so I was hesitant about Mirage 2000 and at the same time afraid that it would not be able to carries with competition, such as e.g. F-14 (I'm not sure about the F-16) but you convinced me that buying a Mirage is a good investment! Thank you for this excellent and instructive video.
I really love these videos where you don't exactly know what you're up against until you see them. That really makes it that much more interesting with those few moments of uncertainty on what to do.
Awesome fight, one of the most impressive, honestly saying. Two things I learned from this video: 1) if you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear a result of a thousand battles, if you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat, if you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle - from Sun Tzu's The Art of War And 2) it is not always principal what airplanes of similar generation you are dogfighting with, it matters who are the pilots on both of them. Than you for the great content, GS!
You actually did it, you madman! If only the Mirage's gun had the dispersion to fill up that entire gun reticle... it still feels more like spray and pray than any sort of precision instrument IMO. Also, thank you for showing how to fight against a *very* superior rate fighter with a Mirage; This was quite different to your usual gameplans, but still very enjoyable and interesting to watch.
Very cool! Not in my budget right now but I intend to have the gear to play soon. Until then I’ll just have to live vicariously through you and your skills Learning a lot can’t wait to play will be watching
That’s about what I was thinking on how to counter a superior rate fighter in a “two circle fight”, then you did it. I must have picked that up from Robert Shaw’s books, 1985 or 1988.
Very nice proof of concept tactics there and well explained in the Tac view recap. By the way, as much as I like the "victory lap" after each kill I would prefer another close up view of the hits, your operatic dirge mourning the imminent death in slow -mo. It's so choice I feel it might be your signature feature on this channel...don't think we are blase to it. Thanks for posting Growly, another fine episode indeed.
@@VisibilityFoggy yeah, I worked F-15’s, with a three year stint on F-4G Wild Weasels in between, for my whole Air Force career. Got to see just about every aircraft, including the MiG-31 and Su-27, up close. Even flew back seat on several occasions.
Late to this one since my cable modem decided to peace out like Jester did in this video. Crappy electrical infrastructure here and brown outs are as common as in Baghdad, Iraq. Another surge protector/battery back up got added to Santa's list because of it, they don't like power drops while in use and it degrades them quickly according to C/NET. Anyway, I was thinking that describing the offset circle might be easier if you mention that it is done by doing a high or low Yo-Yo. Not sure if it is a term you are familiar with or if your education on the matter used a different term. Great mention of the offset circle cue, when you can see both canopy rails more than just momentarily, is how I'd describe that cue too.
man i just fought a mirage pilot tonight in dogfight server amazing pilot he gave me solid runs in a mirage and i was the bandit unkown my most sucess was in a su-27 and a mig 29 some how lol
I really love the M2000C. I honestly think it's highly under-rated because it has no fox-3, therefore nobody really wants to use it. I really want to learn it better.
I think I've seen you negate the circle offset in other vids . I've noticed when the aircraft you are gaining angle on starts climbing and dropping you do as well but didn't understand why .
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Apologies for the lack of external views in this video, anytime you see this its due to track corruption and there isn't much I can really do about it, its just one of the logistical issues we have to deal with when making DCS videos. Thank you guys for watching and I'll see you in the next one.
J20 vs f22 BVR
I'm going to be the ultimate dog fighter just from these videos.
Why don't you take head on shots?
Why don't Jets have Rockets that shoot Backwards? or guns that can Swivl?🤔
Prefer the WW2 and 1 . But this is a good one. I like your laughing, really cheers me up. I'm not going to buy all the equipment and game. It's far to complicated for me. I much prefer watching you play..I like to play real racing 3 . It's a simple game that doesn't involve to much quick thinking. Please keep posting I love watching. 🇬🇧
Jester bailing out became a classic for everyone already 😂😂😂
Still wants to come home to his virtual family xD
Loving these 'bandit unknown' duels. Consistently shows a serious knowledge of your opposition's pro's/con's can be more important than what plane you have... or are up against! (Raptor possibly excluded? 😉)
The raptor is so stupidly good. It’s rare to beat one. I’ve gotten in my fair few fights with them in game, only won 3 times because the raptor pilot got over confident
A properly simulated Raptor is very easy to beat... It is called Time.
They are very screwed on operational percentage and apparently have a lot of rust issues as well, coupled with Lockheed's failed strongarming and missing subcontractors for the Raptor, all of these are factors that have set it up for an early retirement.
So if they had taken a few pages out of the lawbook for Right to Repair, they could have at least kept them around a bit longer, but more expensive on maintenance.
@@CMDRSweeper sad...
@@CMDRSweeper Yeah just survive the merge/dogfight with the Raptor for 20+ years and you’re golden, it’s that easy cmon guys
@@kevinwilliams3804 Provided it makes it to the merge...
A platform can be as fancy as it wants, but if it is hard to maintain, get parts for or keep up logistically, it is an useless war machine.
There is a reason why the old F-15 will stick around longer than the Raptor despite being a less capable airframe.
Your videos are honestly some of the best out there when it comes to DCS content. Been binge watching all of your videos and the quality of your videos just keep on improving
Thank you man I really appreciate it, always trying to make new/interesting stuff.
God that "my name is Jeff!" Was sooo unexpected I frickin spewed my cereal across the table... thanks GS lol
Lol
As a Frenchman, I'm so relieved by this after so much mirage bullying during the last videos
Les français qui jouent le mirage quand GS est juste derrière le Jeff ou le su 27 : MAIS TIRE SUR LE MANCHE
That's why I love aircraft from the generation of the mirage. Much skill required, high payoff. I don't even play dcs I just love your videos and how you explain dogfighting
This is such a good series. Just to show each plane can be extremely deadly in the hands of an experienced pilot.
Man, this series is amazing. Can you do one in a Flanker? It would also be amazing to see the bandit unknown in a Su-57!
Yes sir, flanker bandit unknown is in the pipeline
@@GrowlingSidewinder F15 calls dibs next
There will probably be much disrespect from the flanker
@@GrowlingSidewinder Be nice to see you play ball in the good old 29 too. You have certainly honed your mig skills lately. It's not perfect, but certainly a pilot's plane.
How about bandit unknown BVR
Great fights! Seems like the Mirage can be extremely capable in a dogfight against anything when it's flown correctly.
Always an automatic thumb up for GS's channel(s). And Longshot's too.
Thanks Buddy much love
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks for all the cool vid's, my dude!
Yet again Jester realizing his hourly wage doesn't pay for the bullets he's about to eat lol
Jester walking back to base...
Boss: 19 tomcats have been destroyed and 19 pilots have been killed. How come you are the only comes back in perfect health out of all of those missions?
Jester: ............... (looks around)
.....................
...................
Guess Im just lucky sir!
I think the Mirage is very underrated. In the hands of a skilled pilot it’s a deadly fighter. As you have just amply proven. That being said I don’t know how it is in BVR
yea the mirage can be a beast
Of course it is! Ask the Turks
In bvr ? Not great
Yes, the mirage can be very lethal in dogfight, in BVR it is good, I have tried it, but the 530 super is a missile with very short range in the game, it is also a semi-active radar guided missile, also called FOX-1 , so you have to keep the lock on the target all the time.
Just ask the Israelis and they'll tell you how good the mirage's are
Much Love from Greece!
The "my name is Jeff" made me lose it.
Excellent explanation of the offset two circle! Very enlightening, Also thank you for explaining how to counter, that would have been my next question. Keep up the great work.
Might've already been mentioned by someone else - or you might even know anyway - but there's a switch under the HUD that'll give you a shoot cue with the Mirage too. I haven't tried it because I don't get to gun stuff that often, but it can pop up when they're part way down the snake.
you fly like a true HAF (Hellenic Air Force) pilot ;) Also, nice modelling of the Greek Mirage, dirty and gritty :D
Love the visual examples of the circles definitely would love so see that stay
GS in the mirage is an instant click from me!
Showing and demonstrating how the geometry of the fight works is absolutely fantastic
Ok, fantastic debrief! Love your experience and how you give both perspectives from each plane… how to counter the two circle!!! Keep this up!
This is really interesting, because it is for you first. I laughed with you, not as you usually do when you shoot an adversary down, but when Jester pulled one on him. Love❤️
The Mirage's gunsight has hindsight logic. In an American or Russian plane, you shoot when the pipper is on the target. In the Mirage, you shoot before the pipper reaches the target, and if there's a bullet at the bandit's range when the pipper crosses him, THEN you'll hit. It's great for crossing snapshots, but basically impossible to get a tracking shot unless the other guy really cooperates. The pipper isn't really a sight, it's a range mark on a virtual line of tracers.
And people keep saying the Mirage can't do a rate fight, but now it's such a meme that no one even tries to hold corner speed. By the numbers, it will rate about as well as an Eagle or a Flanker. It's not a top-tier rate fighter like the Hornet or Tomcat, but it's not a MiG-21 either UNLESS you yank all your speed away. At 200 knots it really is a total dog; the high-alpha vortex state is a great feature of delta wings, but it's not the only regime they work in. Keep it between 350 and 400 and the other guy will have to really fly correctly to come around the circle on you. The Eagle guys have been learning to think like a Mirage, now the Mirage guys need to take a moment to think like an Eagle. They're not so different.
Love the demo of the offset 2 circle! That was awesome!
F14s and jester ejecting, name a more iconic duo
Jester loaded up his shorts when those rounds whizzed by and ejected. All that extra wind in the cockpit blew Cougar's kneepad papers everywhere. Great stuff GS. You're holding clinics up there.
Jester saw who was flying the Mirage and said, Oh chit it's Growling Sidewinder. Next thing the pilot knew the canopy and Jester were gone.
Lovely stuff! I was wondering how to fight in the Mirage against various planes and you just showcased it to perfection! Thanks, man! Great vid!
Ive always heard about the offset but never knew how to start, let alone counter one. This brought my game to a new level.
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I would LOVE an “advanced maneuvers” tutorial on establishing the offset two-circle. First time I’ve ever seen it. Your diagram was helpful, as was the tacview but I’d love a mechanical breakdown from the cockpit of setting it up.
Would also be curious to see a breakdown of how to counter someone moving into the offset two-circle-if you’re willing to teach us how to kill you, that is.
Just got my VR headset on Black Friday, real excited to jump into DCS and IL2 with it!
What I am learning from these videos is what I had heard from Iranian pilots of Iran-Iraq war: What matters the most is training, pilot's skill.
“My name is Jeff” caught me off guard.🤣good one GS.
Man ... you're my hero! I have enthusiastically reviewed almost everything you have done on the topic of DCS in the past month and you really delighted me! I guess because of the shouted movie Top Gun and F-14 which really looks "dark" I intended to buy an F-14 module but I was scared of all that powerful electronics in the cabin so I was hesitant about Mirage 2000 and at the same time afraid that it would not be able to carries with competition, such as e.g. F-14 (I'm not sure about the F-16) but you convinced me that buying a Mirage is a good investment! Thank you for this excellent and instructive video.
Greek Mirage 2000C. AKA, the flying saganaki. 🇬🇷
I love the way you describe everything, every move! Thanks!
I really love these videos where you don't exactly know what you're up against until you see them. That really makes it that much more interesting with those few moments of uncertainty on what to do.
This is perfect timing. I was hoping for a new mirage video.
Awesome fight, one of the most impressive, honestly saying.
Two things I learned from this video:
1) if you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear a result of a thousand battles, if you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat, if you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle - from Sun Tzu's The Art of War
And 2) it is not always principal what airplanes of similar generation you are dogfighting with, it matters who are the pilots on both of them.
Than you for the great content, GS!
"My name's Jeff"
These videos are what keep me into dcs in between updates
Thanks for the offset TacView. Just what I asked for and explained very well. Appreciate it.
Offset two circle, and not a plumbing video. Awesome.
You actually did it, you madman! If only the Mirage's gun had the dispersion to fill up that entire gun reticle... it still feels more like spray and pray than any sort of precision instrument IMO.
Also, thank you for showing how to fight against a *very* superior rate fighter with a Mirage; This was quite different to your usual gameplans, but still very enjoyable and interesting to watch.
Great, thanks for your helping hand, i learned a lot about fighting with the Mirage 2000
2:22 "how bizarre"....thank you GS! now i got this masterpiece by OMC stuck in my head :D
The tactic illustrative drawing is a great idea, I like to see it when you talk about rate fights etc ..
Very cool! Not in my budget right now but I intend to have the gear to play soon. Until then I’ll just have to live vicariously through you and your skills Learning a lot can’t wait to play will be watching
Ya no rush man whenever you’ve got the funds DCS and the community will be here, hope to see you sooner rather than later.
One of my favourite channels on YT.
The Unknown Bandit's are a big plus for the Channel, Just another reason to Tune into the Channel.
Love from Greece
Jester never fails to disappoint.
This Bandit Unknow series is really cool, it really shows the full potential of each plane.
honestly, I watch your videos while I'm eating breakfast everyday.
That offset 2 circle play is a great trick. I'll have to remember that for next time.
Excellent!!! only watched round one coz I've got work to do but i do love these unknown opposition vids, good job GS
Nice "What We Do in the Shadows" Reference! And as always your videos are awesome.
That’s about what I was thinking on how to counter a superior rate fighter in a “two circle fight”, then you did it. I must have picked that up from Robert Shaw’s books, 1985 or 1988.
It's good to see one is competing with different fighters,need more like this
Very nice proof of concept tactics there and well explained in the Tac view recap.
By the way, as much as I like the "victory lap" after each kill I would prefer another close up view of the hits, your operatic dirge mourning the imminent death in slow -mo.
It's so choice I feel it might be your signature feature on this channel...don't think we are blase to it.
Thanks for posting Growly, another fine episode indeed.
Might wanna put "Bandit unknown" in the title to keep up the 'series', great video!
Highly entertaining and informative...grafically descriptive technic...nice mini seminar, thanks GS. I will definitely put that in the biovault.
Got my hotas today and super excited to learn the flying dorito
Got to see some French Mirage 2000’s when I was stationed at Nellis AFB. I was surprised how small that aircraft is.
That's how I felt the first time I stood next to an F-16! After being around Tomcats it looked like a Honda Civic.
@@VisibilityFoggy yeah, I worked F-15’s, with a three year stint on F-4G Wild Weasels in between, for my whole Air Force career. Got to see just about every aircraft, including the MiG-31 and Su-27, up close. Even flew back seat on several occasions.
I'm loving these "bandit unknown" videos!
Is no one gonna talk about that, "my name is Jeff" XD just so random coming from sidewinder it makes it funnier
Your skills makes the Mirage a formidable enemy to face..... This was a very good video.
Dogfighting is so much more involved than I fist thought.
Lol, as SOON as i saw the ejection in that second F14 fight - i knew Jester Had pulled the chicken handle.
Dude is a meat flare...
You've been throwing down some mad skills lately. Maybe time to get an irl fighter pilot back on the channel?
Man this is amazing - I don't even play the game and I cannot stop watching your videos
I couldn’t click fast enough! I would love to see these 2v2 with unknown bandits
That Jester dude needs to be put up on charges.
Late to this one since my cable modem decided to peace out like Jester did in this video. Crappy electrical infrastructure here and brown outs are as common as in Baghdad, Iraq. Another surge protector/battery back up got added to Santa's list because of it, they don't like power drops while in use and it degrades them quickly according to C/NET.
Anyway, I was thinking that describing the offset circle might be easier if you mention that it is done by doing a high or low Yo-Yo. Not sure if it is a term you are familiar with or if your education on the matter used a different term. Great mention of the offset circle cue, when you can see both canopy rails more than just momentarily, is how I'd describe that cue too.
As always, very impressive 👍
One of the best Growling videos in my opinion :D
"Hey, your stabilizer is gone!"
"Minor scratch!"
"Now your RIO ejected..."
"Just a flash wound!"
Mirage merch would be dope
"Ma name's Jeeeeffffff" Took me ALL the way out! hahahahaha
Bandit unknown is my new favourite series on RUclips
I am srsly in love with this bandit unknown series !!!
Digging the surprise series. Commentary always awesome.
You cracked me up with Jester ejecting. Man that was hilarious
That 21 Jump street reference made me choke on burrito! Lol well done sir.
Jester takes the term "out of plane" too literally.
Leaves his pilot driving a convertible with the top down (or rather, off).
Jester be like: nah bro ima head out....
sadly he doesnt take the grippen against you...
This guy is literally a genius I swear
"My name's Jeff" never gets old. Hahaha. Love it!
man i just fought a mirage pilot tonight in dogfight server amazing pilot he gave me solid runs in a mirage and i was the bandit unkown my most sucess was in a su-27 and a mig 29 some how lol
Jester was like "Screw this I'm out!" LMAO
Like your explanation of the one and two circles
I really love the M2000C. I honestly think it's highly under-rated because it has no fox-3, therefore nobody really wants to use it. I really want to learn it better.
dude that bassy sound as the tomcat flies past gs 0:54
Good stuff thanks for education. Beautiful flicker. Keep em coming and good luck to you
jester doesnt trust his pilot lol
Jester was like, "Daddy wasn't there, peace!"
Real enjoy these. Learn loads. Really wanting to add the m2k to my fleet, looks great fun!
I think I've seen you negate the circle offset in other vids . I've noticed when the aircraft you are gaining angle on starts climbing and dropping you do as well but didn't understand why .
You’re right this method has been used in other videos good eye
The meme insert though ...perfect timing