Make your C6 or C7 Corvette FASTER for UNDER $100! Too Good To Be True?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Make your C6 faster for under $100. Sounds too good to be true! I picked up a part recently that we were told will make a huge difference in how the corvette feels. I'll install it in this video and test it out so you can decide if you want to get one for yourself or not!
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Giving away a Red Light Bandit throttle booster now! Head over to the giveaway video and get entered before 11:59 pm October 29th 2023!
I'm not here to one up or demean his project, however I'll offer my experience for those that are considering a throttle responder and you can take it for what it's worth. Firstly spend more and get more. Buy a unit that is adjustable and can be tailored to one's preference. Was my responder night and day? Absolutely, it's the #1 bolt on mod as far as I'm concerned. Everyone can do their own research but I would recommend looking at the Sprint Booster V3. Happy accelerating!
Great feedback. If you you’re new to the channel you wouldn’t know, but part of what I do is install and test products: I always say that “I spend the money so you don’t have to” lol. I hope you saw my comments at the end. I always try to give real unbiased input! I don’t know that this will stay on the car.
Thanks for your post. I have an automatic C6. I installed the Pedal Commander …. And the difference is AMAZING. I am no expert, but I think the increased performance would be LESS obvious with a manual transmission.
Good to know. Yeah that’s sort of my thinking too
My vette is manual, it kept getting the check engine light. I guess it's bolt on time
@@AllCreaturesCount good input! Thanks!
In my automatic I notice a huge difference in the response. It doesn’t add power it adds responsiveness.
It seems to me (an "Old Fart" of 71 years & auto tech since 1968) that WAYYYYYY to many people use the term or word "faster" when then actually mean "QUICKER"!!!! What all of these electronic devices do is simply make (or attempt to make), the throttle plate move as fast as your foot can move the pedal! It changes the response time. hench -QUICKER!! to get to a given speed. They almost NEVER add power or speed, as that is determined by the engine (remember electric devices are motors). It can however add more speed (FASTER) if in fact the throttle plate was not fully opening before the device was added. Short bit of information: they make DO make the driving experience a lot more FUN!!!!!!
The only true comment I've read. Put a Redlight Bandit on my C7 and responds like it was direct connect cable. Makes it snappy and quick. Don't waste time on anything that still has adjustable lag like pedal commander and a bunch of others out there. Your buying something to eliminate the lag so just eliminate it all together. By the way mine has been installed three years with no issues.
Nailed it. Changes the ratio of throttle input to TPS %. It's dumb. Cable driven TBs FTW.
Thanks for doing this video. I had my automatic 06 C6 Dyno Tuned. One of the things the tuner did was to eliminate throttle lag. I guess this is what this device does.
That’s correct. Good to know the tuner is able to do this as well.
Bro I’m subscribing just because of the honesty!!! Thank you. I may still get one, but it’s nice to see someone honest rather than always having a motive to sell.. I appreciate that man.
Thanks for subscribing! Definitely just try to share good info! I’ll be doing a giveaway for one of these units in the next few weeks. Keep an eye out for that video
Giving away this throttle booster if you’re interested. The Giveaway video is live on my channel!
I loved it for a few months, until I started going on limp mode. Had to take it off. Now it's running good again
That’s what I’m afraid of
I put a pedal commander on my c6z06 and was quite pleased with it. I took it off after a proper tune and better mods.
I have a 2008 c6 It was awesome, but put stage 3 cam and fast intake,102mm throttle body ,cold air intake and polished and ported heads! Already had headers she is a fire breathing dragon without power adders!
Sounds like a beast
Thanks for your honest opinion I'd appreciate it.
Giving away this throttle booster if you’re interested. The Giveaway video is live on my channel!
DUDE! Your dash said "No Fate But What We Make"
LOVE IT! So badass. Terminator baby!
Lol you caught that! Great line!
I suspect the Redlight Bandit would create a more noticeable result in an automatic transmission. With the manual, it’s a lot easier to manage the motor’s powerband. Great video!
Yes this is exactly my feeling. Thanks for watching! Check out my two month review I did recently if you get a minute
Great! I have a automatic and I hope that is the case. I’ll post my results when I have one installed.
@@davidarmitage9041did you get it?
It woke up my 2009 A6 quite a bit.
Giving away this throttle booster if you’re interested. The Giveaway video is live on my channel!
Great review! I went from a 2000 Camaro Z28 with a steel cable throttle ( no delay even possible ) to Corvette C5, C5Z, and now a C6Z, and never noticed the throttle delay intruding on my acceleration. The only thing I think it could affect is, if you heel-toe downshift, and you need that blip to happen in perfect timing, maybe then it would be noticed. But it's like you say, with a manual car, you are never launching from idle, except through a parking lot, so it does not matter if there is a tiny delay. Thanks
Huge delay on my c7 manual, like you say for heel and toe or just revs in neutral i can mash the pedal to the floor and back and motor doesnt even receive any throttle input!? 😂😂 the part i hate the most is when i lift it stays on throttle a bit for 2 seconds before it goes on to decompression its so annoying..
Impressive one hand operation plugging in the connectors!
Lol thanks
My auto 06. It was a huge difference. Love it
I just took it off mine last night and I have to say that I can tell that it's not there anymore!
I Took my C-6 ls3 automatic 6 speed and HP tuners and set the TB to be fully open at 75% and with no spin at the track I got no difference. If you change the torque converter to a under 3000 rpm stall(totaly streetable)you will bring the stock 60 foot time down 4 tenths of a second. Thats almost half a second which is huge.
Installed it on my 07 base and it was on for a week. Initially, it was awesome! Took it only a week to give me the "reduced engine power" message which would not go away and the car would barely run. I uninstalled and reinstalled with the same result. FInally took it off and I am returning it. May not be for everyone....this would be great if they can get the bugs worked out!!
Thank you for the insight. The difference it made feels so minimal that I will likely take it off just to avoid any potential problems. Thanks again!
I had the exact same problem. When I first plugged it in it ran fine. Went to the store came back out and started up and started driving and then it started acting bad where it was like running on half the cylinders. It said reduced power and had the check engine light come on. I had to reboot the car a few times and then it would work and then it would do it all over again. I also have an 07 base model with an automatic 6-speed. I wonder if it has something to do with the 07 with the LS2. Or I wonder if it being an automatic have something to do with it. I'm glad I'm not the only one having this issue. I try to uninstall and reinstall it multiple times and I keep coming up with the same problem. It's a shame because when it was working it was fantastic.
@@frankc1430 they refunded me quickly and I sent it back. They told me they were trying to work out the bugs for the C6 model and possibly by February would have them fixed.
I have a 07 base also, which transmission do you have? That's odd that you had issues.
@@itsa364 if you're asking me I have the six-speed automatic.
great video ! this is just what i needed
Excellent!
Thank you for your honesty!
No problem!
I subscribed and gave you a thumbs-up for your honesty.
I appreciate that very much! Lots of vids on the channel. Surf around a bit!
sometimes the power gained is soo little that unless you dyno test it you wont be able to tell a difference, the part only changes things in the car ECU hence a tune, the tune that part give is probably not nice, you sacrifice reliablity for that gain,
the instant response in the throttle might be a nice thing but the lag or delay in response is meant so that you don't shock the car internal parts such as the transmission , imagine the diff and axle from decreasing in speed to a sudden hit with 500HP+
but the delay is meant to smooth that out so the car parts can last longer,
another thing is it can change the fuel tune to either too rich or too lean, too lean you get more power but its more harmful to the engine its like the knife is too sharp that your not only cutting the chicken nicely but your also slicing the cutting board kinda thing, too dull it wont cut a thing but no harm was done there at least. just wasted effort in attempting to cut the chicken , too rich will choke the engine but it doesnt damage it in any way just more unburned and wasted fuel.
this is my opinion but i have no way to confirm this theory since im going with what i know and believe is logical
I have checked into pedal commanders and a few others but none for a 2005 c6 ,why is that??
I first noticed the lag in my wifes 2009 328 automatic. Then again when I picked up a 2012 G37 coupe. It was maddening.....Drive by wire is for the birds.
I’m looking for my first C6 GS like yours. I’m going with automatic so hopefully I’ll feel more responsiveness. Is Lyle still selling this one or is there a better one? Thanks and loved your video!
I think he still sells them but last I looked they were out of stock
@@SpeedCultureStudiosI appreciate it.
Found that the clutch return spring needs upgrading on c6 it might be why you don't feel the difference
I have a manual GS and was going to order one of these but I don’t think I will after your video.
Thanks for the install information . I will be installing mine in soon . I'm expecting an improvement in response from idle to power band .So it should go from idle to 2500 in a snap, as apposed to ramping up slowly . That is where the throttle mapping delay is programmed from the factory on all new vehicles . I'm now expecting to be able to make my Borla Atak system to bark from idle as soon as I hit it .
Check out my 2 month review video!
I have one on my C6 GS same as you feels good while shifting and I did feel a better throttle response not mind blowing but worth 99.00, I've had mine for about 2 years now.
Yeah exactly. Just a little snappier
With a manual I don't think it will make as much of a difference as the cam and intake and injectors
I think from a dead stop, in first gear, and you hit it, you should have felt something more pro active in throttle response., If you didn't then it's not worth the hassle. On my C6 automatic with paddle shifter in use from a dead stop at a light the 'lag" is noticeable. Your stick shift in first from a dead stop should have the same "lag." since no rpm's are built up and that is where you would notice it for sure. If you didn't feel anything then it's not worth it IMO. I'll pass on buying one I think. I Only saw you try it once from a dead stop. The rest of the time you were already in your power band mostly. Did I see that correctly?
Why does your car have such high oil pressure? Do you have an aftermarket high pressure oil pump installed?
It’s not really high. 60 psi under load and cool temps. It always leveled out to 35-40 when warm.
I got installed this after a Dyno tune with headers and intake and its way more punchy
Nice feedback!
Did you have any problems with yours? I had problems with pulling engine codes and it running bad. Wonder if you ran into any of those issues.
I haven’t had issues yet, but I did hear others say they did
If you don't mind me asking what year is it and what engine do you have? So far the people that I see having this problem seem to have the LS2 engine. I wonder if it's a problem with the engine.
@@frankc1430 this is a 2010 with the LS3
@@SpeedCultureStudios Ok! I think this product does not work on the LS2. My car is an 07 with an LS2 and I was reading in your comments another guy was saying it didn't work for him and had the same symptoms like mine had. And he also had a 07 with an LS2. I think this product isn't going to work for 2005 to 2007. Those are the years they use the LS2. And then 2008 to 2013 was the LS3. I hope other people chime in who had issues.
Great video thanks for the honest review 👍
Thanks for checking it out!
I can here the car rev faster. I have the Pedle Box in my 2011 Denali with the LS3 6.2 and it gets in the power band faster
I wonder if the small difference you felt was really due to the new tires.
Tires helped for sure.
Have a C4 and want a C5: after this video
Love the c5 also!
Have you considered doing a before and after dyno run. I had the computer on my C6 Base re-mapped and it just got wicked faster.. 477 lbft at the wheels. LbFt which is where you really feel the oomph. Stock HP was 430HP and after tune it was 460hp which is faster than my C7 cause the 460 is at the flywheel. It cost a little. more than $99 (ok a lot more) but it was well worth it. BTW order Bandit soon as they sold out a while back and the wait was several months.
I’d love to do a before and after!
I have a 2006 base C6. How much does a tune like the one for your Vette cost. I’m really interested in having it done if it would give me more horsepower. Thank you.
I have an 06 C6 6 speed and after adding a mild cam and headers dynode 420 hp. Your C6 is not stock.
Just looked online and 375hp is the norm.
Ralph above is either a troll, excluding details, or just full of crap. His C6/LS3 coupe after a tune didn’t net anywhere near what he is claiming. Stock on a dynojet 360-374 for the autos. 375-385 on the m6s.
The good old placebo effect!
No, it’s an actual noticeable change, but not necessarily a good one. Check out my follow up video to this
My 2019 manual c7 has the worst throttle response in the history of all cars! Loll 😆 track mode with traction and stability control off is a tiny bit better but still stupid unresponsive! When i bought it i was disapointed with that but i got used to it i guess, doesnt bother me as much now
Have you tried this yet? Maybe it would help?
Will using the paddles in the automatic version reduce the latency it takes to up and downshift?
It seems to make it a bit quicker
My things if the concern was the fear of it letting you down then why not just leave the car alone and just enjoy it🤷🏾♂️
Because this is a RUclips channel. I try things and make videos so people can see if it’s something they wanted to pursue or not.
They got anything like this for C5 Vette? I've got an 03 6spdManual
Is there a product made for the 2005 C6?
Not like this as far as I know.
@@SpeedCultureStudios Thanks
Wait... Did u sell rhe q and get the Vette?
🤟🏽🤟🏽
I can’t find this part in stock been looking for a few months
They are out of stock at the moment. I believe I’ll be doing a giveaway soon, so stick around!
spend a little more money & get a pedal commander
Corvette 😮
So glad I have a 2005😒
Doesn't make the car faster. Just makes the gas pedal more touchy/responsive. You can't open the throttle further than 100% lol
No, but if you get 100% throttle quicker, you can technically be faster. Theoretically, if you’re getting quicker throttle response, rpm is dropping less or recovering quicker between shifts therefore making the car quicker. Technically. It would be nice to see some controlled testing though.
@@SpeedCultureStudios How long does it take you to press your gas pedal all the way down? 0.1 second? I don't think you're gonna improve on that much. The throttle blade doesn't lag behind the gas pedal with the stock calibration. I.e. if you smash the gas to the floor the throttle body opens immediately. It's not a delay, it's something called exponential output. The throttle input (your foot on the gas pedal) is linear but the output (the throttle body) is exponential. It's hard to describe, need a graph to represent it. But there is no delay in the stock programming, it's just a more mushy feel the first half of the pedal travel. Throttle controllers simply change the input/output relationship to make the throttle feel more responsive, not to actually open faster.
@@Carguylogan You can't have a "more responsive" pedal with nothing being changed. I don't have a graph to confirm and I'm not selling a product, so this means nothing to me--i've even said the product is not worth the money. However, now that I have removed the part, there is a clear difference between shifts. The only way to really know is to test it.
@@SpeedCultureStudios You can change the input/output relationship. If you mash the gas to the floor immediately, the stock calibration opens the throttle immediately. The difference is when you push the gas pedal down 30% it only opens the throttle 15%. By time you get to 100% throttle though, it opens 100%. That way it gives the pedal a less touchy feel. After the throttle programmer, 30% throttle input = 30% throttle output. Therefor you get more power at 30% throttle input.
@@SpeedCultureStudiosin drive-by-wire systems, the ECU is what controls the actual throttle valve based on the driver's "requested" throttle input. There are numerous algorithms between that driver input and the actual butterfly valve actuation including traction control, stability control, and interpolation to smooth out the driver input. This device and others like it seem to work by somehow overriding at least some of those algorithmic adjustments (likely the interpolation) to provide an experience closer to a 1:1 direct manual throttle where output = input precisely with no smoothing.
Ur better off with an automatic with a progressive programmer. Corvettes are Cruisers. You can't shift as fast as programed automatic.
I don't know about better off, but autos are definitely faster!
I might be a little concerned about all that oil pressure..
Not an issue.
The Corvette is already a cop magnet. It doesn’t need anymore help.
I don’t think cops will know you have this
It doesn't look to do much on video. Many products like this are just a resistor and a bulb inside
I hope you saw my comments at the end
good tune is liek $300 around here to clean up the factory BS and make it drive better all around...and no stupid china modules to fail
Supposed to take the positive cable off the battery not the negative it's not good for your computer
I’ve never once heard to take the positive side off. And instructions with the module direct you to disconnect the negative.
Always disconnect the negative first or you run a chance of blowing your electrical system
It doesn't make it faster, lol. Just sharpens throttle response. 100% WOT remains the same.
So if you get faster throttle response, you should technically get faster after each shift-theoretically faster…theoretically
@@SpeedCultureStudioshow long does it take to floor it? There is no delay, I have a c6, it doesn't have one. You know what makes you "faster"? Good tires, lol.
@@moonrider99 good tires absolutely. I mean I’m sure you heard my comments at the end of this video. You can also check out my follow up review video. I’m not disagreeing with you 😂 But like I said-and like you said-if it sharpens throttle response, is it not technically making the car a bit faster? What is throttle response if not quicker acceleration? Even if immeasurable …
The difference in throttle position is all that is changing with this device. Good for people with a lazy right foot that’s it. The car will NOT be any faster. The power is the same across the board. This is why every single manufacturer of these giggle gimmicks makes no claims about improved track times. They can’t because the car will not be any faster. Learn how the car likes to be driven and get yourself a proper dyno & street tune. You’ll be glad you did.
@@SpeedCultureStudiosI think you're misusing "faster" when you mean "quicker". The actual speed is the same (since you're not changing gearing), but you get there sooner due to less lag between pedal input & throttle output.
Will this work for a manual transmission???
Did you watch the video?
Wil work on manual is what I wanna know
Take a look at the video
I think you should have used the same tires! By putting the new tires, it’s a total waste!
The tires were not safe to have on any longer
First!!
Ol’ reliable! Thanks man!!
I wish people would stop with these cheap, useless little gadgets. If you're seriously racing your Vette, you'll have proper upgrades and a proper tune - not this pointless little thing. If you have your Vette for normal road use, you already have more power and speed than you could ever use on a public road. Why limp your Vette for this crap? Pedal Commander is just as bad.
Like I said, for $100 it was worth trying out. One purpose of the channel is to try things out and provide reviews. I’ve said it a million times, I spend the money so you don’t have to lol. Check out my follow up review-I think we are on the same page.
Since you are clearly dogging your vette , try installing a supercharger and go to the track
I don’t think dogging is the right word-I’m not even sure I’ve been over the speed limit-but I am back and forth between supercharger or just mild cam and exhaust.
If you’re new to the channel though, part of what I do is install, test and review products. This is just part of that practice-not necessarily something I would typically do or keep on a personal vehicle.
sorry man THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOUR CAR MORE HP......
Don’t think anyone said it gives it more power…
@@SpeedCultureStudios Then whats making the car faster?? I can hit the gas harder/faster with the same result.. your not making a c6 faster then a c7 COME ON MAN...
@@anthonypapa8676 man you’re throwing a lot of stuff out there that was never said. Who said it was going to be faster than a c7? I also explained the theory in the video. You must have been in too big of a hurry to leave your comments 😂
snake oil comes in many flavors... this one tastes like shit
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But you don’t want to skip then”before” stuff…
Driver mod.
When you're already the best driver around, you gotta look around for other ways to get faster.
This seems very subjective.
Maybe a few runs down the 1/4 will shed real light on that Gizmo!
BEWARE: I bought one of these similar, DLX, and it died after a month. Only problem? The CAR STOPS DEAD IN IT'S TRACKS with a bad throttle controller; you'll have to wrestle it off to get going again.