😅🤣😆😎🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼💯 I live out of my Jeep compass & am Wishin I could afford to live out of that big time haha!!!! Saving up for land or a home though lol & probably wouldn’t get approved for loan on such an epic RaptorR Rig… gnar gnar!!!
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Actually, you would be surprised at just how fast you lose interest in such things when you have millions to billions of $ to play with. These things become as interesting as an economy class 2 seater EV solar powered run about is to a full on Hemi powered Charger. You won't even look at these anymore. May not even care about owning and driving any longer as being driven and flown around is the way of the wealthy. 😉
With up to 100K over sticker price (I've been calling dealers this is what some are getting) Take the 37" Raptor Tune the ECU and you're going to be about 575HP Saving yourself 100K. Even the Raptor with the 37" are marked up lowest markup I've found is about 15K some as high as 30K.
@@dr.petestrombeck3608if you just want the performance, you’re right on the money. If you want one for the V8 sound there’s nothing you can do to fix that save for throwing in a V8. And most people that love Raptors will unanimously agree everything is awesome about them except the exhaust note, myself included. The v6 sounds awful.
Purchases a Raptor, one of the most over-engineered vehicles ever made with a finely tuned and rigorously developed suspension.... Proceeds to give it a lift 🤦♂️
Don’t be confused into thinking he threw some rough country cheap lift kit on that raptor. Those are Geiser progressive springs. A better engineered spring design than what you get from the factory.
@@putz173 because the 3.5 is a high strung and twin turbo dipshit. There is absolutely zero replacement for displacement and if you mod the coyote the same way you mod the eco boost then the coyote wins every time no exceptions
@@markb2860 no, but you can compare the best thing offered at a time versus the best thing offered now. A great example is computers. Remember the computers from the 90s? They used to cost thousands and have less computing power than the phone im using to leave this comment that does WAY more but costs less. Car Manufactured charging more for "more" is the most pathetic excuse I've ever seen and anyone who believes it is buying into lies
@@japhethbonnema that maybe be true but a computer is made of fundamentally the same components now as it was it the 90's. 8 way heated and cooled leather seat cost more to make then a bench. A heated steering wheel with 15 buttons and an airbag cost more then a metal ring wrapped in plastic. And speaking of computers, a modern car has at least 3 of them... Then you can get into safety and emissions which didn't exist back then but costs a ton to develop and produce
@@markb2860 yeah I believe net net there is additional cost there, however a bench seat hand sewn and stitched vs today's automation closes the price gap yet again, not to mention the pushes towards international trading which results in far cheaper materials
Obviously the Raptor R is the gold standard. I think every Raptor owner would get the R if they could afford it basically comes down to the price. That being said the regular Raptor is an excellent truck it just doesn't seem like it now that there is something better out there.
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Although I cannot deny how powerful Ford's twin turbo 3.5 L Ecoboost engine is, I love the sound of a V-8. If I had a 6-figure budget for a truck, I would absolutely go with the Raptor R. I love the look, but the glossy FORD emblem on the grill would look better in a matte finish, as it's hard to see. But the bottom line is that incredible supercharged engine. What a beast! Great video!
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Don't brake torque whit raptor R. If there's any amount of brake pressure detected, the computers tell the engine to stand down and reduce the amount of torque delivered through the driveline. Ford says this is to prevent the engine from overwhelming the brakes. If and when you take delivery of a Raptor R, follow these two easy steps to achieve maximum acceleration: Select Sport mode (this automatically puts the transfer case into 4Auto) and turn on the Auto-Hold function for the brake system. Stand on the throttle and you're off. Simply flat-footing it from rest without using Auto Hold is a tenth slower.
Other reviews have showed that’s actually the slowest way to get a 0-60 time. If you go watch different Raptor R launches, the people that try both get faster times by brake torquing it.
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Both are awesome, i think a tune is less expensive then the 26k difference and you can make the ecoboost just as fast and save some cash, but nothing sounds like a v8
The difference in the two is less than 20k when equally equipped. You're tuned 3.5 will still get spanked by a stock R. A tuned and pullied R will make 1000hp
Can we go back to 2020 where the entry point for the Raptor was $55k? How about a 5.0L Raptor Supercab with non live valve fox shocks for $60k? Supercrew for $65k. Cmon Ford. I would take that with a dealer installed Roush supercharger over either of these.
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@@zombieprepper01 im a ford dude all day! Currently have a ford truck. Truthfully speaking I think I would by the TRX over the raptor and I never thought I’d by another truck besides ford.
All trucks are like this now days. It's one of the first this I added to my truck. Made a huge difference in noise, no longer hear rocks hitting the bed and inner fender.
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Great review really enjoy your channel. I got my 35" Raptor back in April of 22 $75K with 15K mark up the 37" trucks were going for 86K with a 20K markup. Now the R is 111K with 50 to 60 K markup. So in todays markets with interests rate much higher a R would cost you around $3000 or so a month. I don't know many people who can afford a $3000 a month truck payment. That more than my house payment not a good financial move for a depreciating asset you will be lucky if it worth 90K in 3 years. Just do an intercooler, downpipes, intake and Garrett turbos on the 3.5 with a Goose Tune that will put you at 603 at the wheels for a fraction of the cost of and R.
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What a ridiculously inflated price to pay for a Ford Truck. INSANE doesn't begin to describe those who cough up that much money for a pickup truck. We're I a billionaire, I'd still never buy one.
I think Raptor on 35's will improve its performance against the Raptor R. Somebody had a Raptor R drag Racing a TRX on 35's and then on 37's, the TRX with 37's lost some performance compared to the Raptor R and could not catch the Raptor R.
- it’s not built on 35s so really is pointless. To reduce the truck’s overall capabilities to just beat a TRX is not seeing the Raptor for what it is. The Raptor R will beat the TRX around any off-road course, except pure rock crawling, as is, out the box. That’s what the truck is truly about, not just 0-60. You really want 0-60 you can build a car that will destroy either truck for less than $100,000 + USD. The car may not do so well off-road though,,,,, 😂😂.
Might help on road handling as well. Springs are so soft It’s just a rolling barge on water for the road. Obviously superior for off road use. Let’s not forget 13.5 in breaks for 700hp My civic in college had bigger breaks that the R
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Is the RAM interior really better? The new interior in the F-150 really stepped up. I think it's on par with RAM, imo. RAM exterior is a little over styled for my taste.
It’s really a $20k upgrade if you option the regular Raptor the same, with the interior and 37” tire packages, which are all available. That supercharger alone costs $10k. That leaves $10k for the engine. With that said, I think the $20k up charge is pretty fair.
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Raptor R is a waste of money especially since it’s not much different than a standard Raptor. Not worth 26K for a few seconds in speed. It also has no HUD or Rearview mirror camera plus allot of Ford plastic in the interior. Shifter is cheap looking with no carbon fiber to match interior. I just have a feeling the R is going to have allot of problems in time especially with transmission. To me the best option is Raptor 3.5L with 35’s. If your doing allot of off-roading. That’s what that frame was designed for. 37’s for weekend warriors.
37s are definitely going to be better for offroad. 26k more sounds stupid right now but give it 5 or 10 years and the R will easily make up for it in resale value once v8s are dead
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor it depends what type of off-roading. If you are crawling and need ground clearance then yes 37s help. If you are jumping the truck I would think 35s are better because you have more suspension travel.
@Hunter0000 not really. The advantage of 37s at high speed offroading is great, it can roll over bigger things easier and absorb more impact. Also bottoming out is a little harder. The lost up travel is minimal.
How is it that the TRX is still a taller truck in stock form with 35’s ? Also much wider Raptors are awesome until it’s parked next to a TRX TRX splits the price down the middle of these Raptors
Yeah it's bigger but bigger isn't always better if you want to actually want to park it then the trx is probably a huge pain and when your going on off road trails they can get pretty narrow pretty fast
Especially at 1mile above sea level That thin air just sucks the life out of the trucks The EVs look really fast at 1mile elevation when the ICE is trying to breathe through a straw
Thanks for the video, Andre. With the markups at new and used dealerships I would not buy either one. I found a 2023 Raptor R on Craigs List (Portland Or) at a used car dealer. Asking price $199,999. On the same search I found a 2022 Raptor on 37s with 6000 miles for $85,900. I feel like that's cheaper than what a new Raptor 37 would be at a Ford dealership. I also found there was no shortage of Used Raptors for sale. 20 & 19 in the 60 to 70K range. 18 & 17 in the 48 to 59K range.
@@02hreblue30 I just checked Craigs List and the Raptor R is no longer available. Either they took the listing down or they sold it. If someone did buy it, did they pay the asking price. We will never know. In my search I used just the word Raptor. My results showed two Bronco Raptors. One at $109,991 the other at $117,900. One has been on listed for sale since Jan 12. So right now, there not showing signs of flying off the shelves.
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Love watching your vids guys. Awesome content. I'm from down under, just gotten my ranger raptor 2 5weeks ago after 13months wait. Can't wait to see how the ranger raptor go against your f150 raptor once you guys get it.
Typically, when launching these high-powered behemoths, a big brake torque to build up boost and revs is the quickest way off the line. Unlike the TRX, the Raptor R isn't equipped with an adjustable launch-control system or any launch assistance for that matter. If there's any amount of brake pressure detected, the computers tell the engine to stand down and reduce the amount of torque delivered through the driveline. Ford says this is to prevent the engine from overwhelming the brakes. If and when you take delivery of a Raptor R, follow these two easy steps to achieve maximum acceleration: Select Sport mode (this automatically puts the transfer case into 4Auto) and turn on the Auto-Hold function for the brake system. Stand on the throttle and you're off. Simply flat-footing it from rest without using Auto Hold is a tenth slower. But that's right, the Raptor R runs to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds from idle at the line.
People hating on the 3.5 twin turbo clearly don’t actually understand the purpose of a Baja inspired truck. Trust me if your actually using your truck for long distance off road runs you want 600+ mile range and not 400 mile range or less that you will get with the R. Finding gas stations in the middle of the desert isn’t easy. And people doing long off road rallies don’t care about 0-60 or how the truck sounds. That’s not the point of these rigs. Far better to invest in long travel suspension and a solid navigation system and star link than some 7mpg truck just because it sounds better. The 3.5 6 is bullet proof. People who criticize the v6 don’t understand the importance of weight reduction for jumping,fuel economy for range. I’d by the r as an investment and let it sit in shrink wrap while I drive my gen 2
5.1 Raptor vs 4.6 Raptor R. Might be important if you are drag racing on a strip, or stop light to stop light, but at the price point differences, it is insanely ludicrous to say it is worth the bump up for that time difference.
I heard from a dealer that the R's are delayed due to an engine issue now, said they would no even tell them why? But I know owners have complained about leaking oil.
Hello sir. at 11:41 I want the sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Performance? I do not care! I know it`s fast enough! Cruising from place A to place B and listening the engine is more enough for me!! Nice vid ! Thank`s.
So, basically you would pay $26k more for a V8 with supercharger, since everything out is the same as the 3.5 raptor, suspension drive train chassis, tires, I forgot about the stickers on the R version.
Great review. I just got the Raptor 35 2023. All the Raptors are $25k over sticker and the R is $40k - insane! I could’ve gotten the R for what I paid for the 35
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For the price of a regular Raptor it should have the 5.0L *standard* . I love my Ford's but it seems as of late they are shoving too small powerplants into everything.
When Raptors first came out in Canada you could buy one for $65,000 (can$) = $48,000 (amer$), now they want $130,000 for a V-6.....a dealer in Edmonton had one Raptor R and wanted $200,000+ lol.....not to sure why one more cylinder cost an extra $70,000 lol. I bought a 2017 F-150 SC Roush 2 years ago for $57,000 (can$) the truck has a V-8 with a blower and i upgraded it to 650HP........looks like i did quite well 😊
ok, now i want a version with that v8 but na and similar power to the v6. but we all know that won't happen. still nice to see ford and chevy keeping the v8 engine around for at least a while longer.
10 years ago I thought in the future I'll be making more and I'll get a performance vehicle. Now I make more but vehicle prices are so high I'm not sure I can even replace my regular F150, let alone get a Raptor
I hope you do a side by side with the Raptor R and a 2023 TRX as well one day. If I had the money I think I'd still just get the Raptor with the Eco Boost but in Reality I'd take a Ram TRK over both. that's just my preference.
Wait so literally you pay 26k to go from a V6 to v8 and that's it? Same suspension? That's more than twice the diesel engine upgrade charge in heavy duty trucks!
You launched the Raptor R wrong, you can't brake torque the R because the computer will reduce the torque output at launch. The Raptor R is capable of 3.6 0-60 mph, you should make an update.
The Lovely Bride and I have a long standing agreement....If it costs more than our three bedroom home which sits on about two acres of land....It stays right where it is....On the dealership lot. Sorry Ford and the other truck manufactures, if we need to replace either of our paid for 4X4 pickups it won't be with a new one.
Ford created the trombone exhaust to make the V6 Raptor sound great. For The Raptor R Ford removed it BC of the V8 I bet the Trombone exhaust system would sound crazy on the V8. Someone please swap them 🤞🥺
Really cool trucks but let's be honest, these are wealth flexes for the suburbs. How many Raptor owners are pushing them to the limit, actually using all that capability? Probably less than 1%. But hey, I ain't watching people's pockets.
The v8 is cool and all, but imo the ecoboost with the 37 performance pack, is the best one. It’s sad, but fuel economy is my biggest factor for that claim, fuel these days is getting quite expensive. Also the ecoboost has the 2KW pro power on board whilst the R can’t. Knowing myself I would also burn through way to much rubber if had a 700hp Raptor. Now if I’d win the lottery, I’d have a bronco Raptor for a daily driver and a Raptor R for the weekends. But in reality, the ecoboost is still my top pick it must pick one
@@Tallnerdyguy : If mpg & fuel prices are a concern for someone considering a Raptor/Raptor R or a TRX then they need to rethink their priorities because they can't actually afford to buy or own either truck. Trucks like these are toys for people who can actually afford them they're not daily drivers for some broke joke living paycheck to paycheck.
Does the R have 4 piston calipers? Any footage out there of this beast flying on windy roads? I bet its white knuckles with a healthy amount of body roll lol.
While I think the raptor r is cool... I still like the 3.5 eb motor. I get around 18-19 in my 19 platinum and can pull a house if I wanted. The only problem is all the durability issues... cracked driver-side valve covers, phasers, and turbo coolant leaks... the valve covers have been on backorder for months because it's such a huge problem. Its also so expensive to have these issues fixed. Ford needs to make this right for the kind of money they want for these trucks. Other than that I love my ford. Wish it was more durable like the gm stuff...
Raptor R is definitely my dream truck. If I ever decide to sell my home and live in a truck, it’ll be that one for sure
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I live out of my Jeep compass & am Wishin I could afford to live out of that big time haha!!!!
Saving up for land or a home though lol & probably wouldn’t get approved for loan on such an epic RaptorR Rig… gnar gnar!!!
Lol
How are u gonna live out of 8mpg
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Love them both, never will I ever spend that much on any vehicle unless I win the lottery.
Correct ....👍that's my dream truck, too expansive ...
Even if I win the lottery…I’m not spending that kind of money on a truck.
Actually, you would be surprised at just how fast you lose interest in such things when you have millions to billions of $ to play with. These things become as interesting as an economy class 2 seater EV solar powered run about is to a full on Hemi powered Charger. You won't even look at these anymore. May not even care about owning and driving any longer as being driven and flown around is the way of the wealthy. 😉
Couple more years and the a base XL Supercrew will cost this much 🤣
@@Jay-me7gw You’re probably correct. 🤦🏻
The V6 is good enough for me, but the V8 sounds so good.
With up to 100K over sticker price (I've been calling dealers this is what some are getting) Take the 37" Raptor Tune the ECU and you're going to be about 575HP Saving yourself 100K. Even the Raptor with the 37" are marked up lowest markup I've found is about 15K some as high as 30K.
Let's wait for the Raptor RR V8 Supercharged Twin Turbo X 2024 R Limited
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That Raptor V8 is about 2 V6’s in price lol
@@JesusGarcia98.F Well yeah.
@@dr.petestrombeck3608if you just want the performance, you’re right on the money.
If you want one for the V8 sound there’s nothing you can do to fix that save for throwing in a V8. And most people that love Raptors will unanimously agree everything is awesome about them except the exhaust note, myself included. The v6 sounds awful.
Purchases a Raptor, one of the most over-engineered vehicles ever made with a finely tuned and rigorously developed suspension.... Proceeds to give it a lift 🤦♂️
Don’t be confused into thinking he threw some rough country cheap lift kit on that raptor. Those are Geiser progressive springs. A better engineered spring design than what you get from the factory.
And Landcruiser owners are any different?
It is finely tuned for the masses. Not for everyone. The raptor is not a pre runner truck.
@@duner88 Yet the masses won’t come close to its actual potential. Let’s be honest, it’s a status symbol.
@@duner88 don’t tell the raptor boys that. They’ll brag about Baja until the cows come home lol. Even thought the Land Cruiser best it in Baja…
i still wish the standard raptor had a simple Coyote V8 option!
supercharged 5.0 from the shelby super snake 😮
the 3.5 HO puts out alot more power and torque than the 5.0, the only place the 5.0 wins at anything anymore is exhaust note.
That would just make it another F150🙁
People probably use the full power of either engine maybe .001% of the time they drive the truck, but you will hear the exhaust 100% of the time.
@@putz173 because the 3.5 is a high strung and twin turbo dipshit. There is absolutely zero replacement for displacement and if you mod the coyote the same way you mod the eco boost then the coyote wins every time no exceptions
Those prices are going beyond crazy.
a lot of money yes, but look at what you are getting for it. You cant compare a modern pickup to a classic farm truck
@@markb2860 no, but you can compare the best thing offered at a time versus the best thing offered now. A great example is computers. Remember the computers from the 90s? They used to cost thousands and have less computing power than the phone im using to leave this comment that does WAY more but costs less. Car Manufactured charging more for "more" is the most pathetic excuse I've ever seen and anyone who believes it is buying into lies
@@japhethbonnema that maybe be true but a computer is made of fundamentally the same components now as it was it the 90's. 8 way heated and cooled leather seat cost more to make then a bench. A heated steering wheel with 15 buttons and an airbag cost more then a metal ring wrapped in plastic. And speaking of computers, a modern car has at least 3 of them... Then you can get into safety and emissions which didn't exist back then but costs a ton to develop and produce
@@markb2860 yeah I believe net net there is additional cost there, however a bench seat hand sewn and stitched vs today's automation closes the price gap yet again, not to mention the pushes towards international trading which results in far cheaper materials
It’s the same deal with carpentry; they charge more now to build a house then they used do.
Obviously the Raptor R is the gold standard. I think every Raptor owner would get the R if they could afford it basically comes down to the price. That being said the regular Raptor is an excellent truck it just doesn't seem like it now that there is something better out there.
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Although I cannot deny how powerful Ford's twin turbo 3.5 L Ecoboost engine is, I love the sound of a V-8. If I had a 6-figure budget for a truck, I would absolutely go with the Raptor R. I love the look, but the glossy FORD emblem on the grill would look better in a matte finish, as it's hard to see. But the bottom line is that incredible supercharged engine. What a beast! Great video!
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I really love the new v8…. It’s amazing! But i still really love the twin turbo v6 .got to love options
Great video. It was great meeting you and Roman today after the Jeep presentation at the Auto Show. Enjoy all the TFL channels and videos.
Don't brake torque whit raptor R. If there's any amount of brake pressure detected, the computers tell the engine to stand down and reduce the amount of torque delivered through the driveline. Ford says this is to prevent the engine from overwhelming the brakes. If and when you take delivery of a Raptor R, follow these two easy steps to achieve maximum acceleration: Select Sport mode (this automatically puts the transfer case into 4Auto) and turn on the Auto-Hold function for the brake system. Stand on the throttle and you're off. Simply flat-footing it from rest without using Auto Hold is a tenth slower.
Other reviews have showed that’s actually the slowest way to get a 0-60 time. If you go watch different Raptor R launches, the people that try both get faster times by brake torquing it.
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Both are awesome, i think a tune is less expensive then the 26k difference and you can make the ecoboost just as fast and save some cash, but nothing sounds like a v8
Sure, but a tuned v8 will still be faster then a tuned v6
@@Cloud30000 I think you missed the point. You save $26k and spend $500 on a tune.
The difference in the two is less than 20k when equally equipped. You're tuned 3.5 will still get spanked by a stock R. A tuned and pullied R will make 1000hp
@@Jay-me7gw exactly, you could even spend a bit more and still be under the raptor R price, still either one is a fine machine
You’re right. Especially a V10
Can we go back to 2020 where the entry point for the Raptor was $55k? How about a 5.0L Raptor Supercab with non live valve fox shocks for $60k? Supercrew for $65k. Cmon Ford. I would take that with a dealer installed Roush supercharger over either of these.
And for house too; where are my affordable property listings? I miss pre-pandemic market values
2 years ago i bought a 2017 F-150 SC Roush for $57,000 can$, ($42,000 amer$)
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Do an MPG test for fun.
Low and very low
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26000 dollar engine option I’d go get a trx
The "stock" Raptor looks great with that lift kit.
V6 is the way to go imo. Looks the same, plenty quick, less expensive, and still sounds really good with the new exhaust.
No it doesn’t lol, quit lying to yourself.
@@dazedviking3286 it doesn’t sound as good but it’s not worth the premium
@@zombieprepper01 im a ford dude all day! Currently have a ford truck. Truthfully speaking I think I would by the TRX over the raptor and I never thought I’d by another truck besides ford.
@@dazedviking3286 why
@@dazedviking3286 I owned a 6.2 raptor and a gen 2 eco boost raptor. Now I own a trx 😂 so I’m with you
PSA, Raptor R was tested 0-60 by car and driver 3.6 seconds. TFL is testing at high altitude resulting in the FULL second slower times.
I'm surprised there are no rear fender liners for that kind of money! I'd put some on just to protect those shocks and the rest of the body.
All trucks are like this now days. It's one of the first this I added to my truck. Made a huge difference in noise, no longer hear rocks hitting the bed and inner fender.
Same thought
For $100K, 2 plastic liners .... Jezze... squeek squeek!
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Raptor R running 0-60 at the same pace that a 2015 Mustang GT does is incredible, especially when you consider its a 6k lb truck
especially at 1 mile above sea level.... the Mustang GT is a 6 second car up there.
Well considering you're paying twice the price for a performance vehicle I'd sure as hell hope so
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@@teddybeer1757 Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and died
Great review really enjoy your channel. I got my 35" Raptor back in April of 22 $75K with 15K mark up the 37" trucks were going for 86K with a 20K markup. Now the R is 111K with 50 to 60 K markup. So in todays markets with interests rate much higher a R would cost you around $3000 or so a month. I don't know many people who can afford a $3000 a month truck payment. That more than my house payment not a good financial move for a depreciating asset you will be lucky if it worth 90K in 3 years. Just do an intercooler, downpipes, intake and Garrett turbos on the 3.5 with a Goose Tune that will put you at 603 at the wheels for a fraction of the cost of and R.
A much better sensible and logical financial choice
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This truck isn’t for poor people
Andrey: “The Raptor R has a bigger bulge.” Nathan is chuckling somewhere.
I'll always take a V-8 in a truck.
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
What a ridiculously inflated price to pay for a Ford Truck. INSANE doesn't begin to describe those who cough up that much money for a pickup truck. We're I a billionaire, I'd still never buy one.
smart man
Why?
I'll buy what I like
I love mine, both of them.
I would like to see how quick the Raptor R would be with 35s to match the standard Raptor and TRX.
I think Raptor on 35's will improve its performance against the Raptor R. Somebody had a Raptor R drag Racing a TRX on 35's and then on 37's, the TRX with 37's lost some performance compared to the Raptor R and could not catch the Raptor R.
Seen a few r’s beat trxs already with out 35s
- it’s not built on 35s so really is pointless. To reduce the truck’s overall capabilities to just beat a TRX is not seeing the Raptor for what it is. The Raptor R will beat the TRX around any off-road course, except pure rock crawling, as is, out the box. That’s what the truck is truly about, not just 0-60. You really want 0-60 you can build a car that will destroy either truck for less than $100,000 + USD. The car may not do so well off-road though,,,,, 😂😂.
Might help on road handling as well.
Springs are so soft It’s just a rolling barge on water for the road. Obviously superior for off road use.
Let’s not forget 13.5 in breaks for 700hp
My civic in college had bigger breaks that the R
@Silent but Deadly
Yes....Car and Driver got a 0-60 from a standing idle do I have no clue why he can't bust into the 3's.
I love the HOV pass on the front windshield..gotta save that money somehow :)
I'd like to see these both on a Dyno at your elevation to see if the turbos or supercharger fairs better in power loss.
turbos are way more efficient. This is well known
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
Nice video, I just bought the 2nd generation 2018 and I am just getting use to it
I couldn’t imagine paying $50k more for an R than a TRX when the Rex has a better interior, exterior and more power.
The same optioned out TRX is pretty close in price to the R.
Is the RAM interior really better? The new interior in the F-150 really stepped up. I think it's on par with RAM, imo. RAM exterior is a little over styled for my taste.
@@dr.womenhateshortmen6669ouch. He said dorks
u could if u went offroading
Truthfully the engine upgrade should be a $10k upgrade option. Just nuts being nearly triple
It’s really a $20k upgrade if you option the regular Raptor the same, with the interior and 37” tire packages, which are all available.
That supercharger alone costs $10k. That leaves $10k for the engine. With that said, I think the $20k up charge is pretty fair.
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
I love the RAPTOR R with the Code Orange Metallic color.
We need the Raptor R and TRX race!
👍
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
Raptor R is a waste of money especially since it’s not much different than a standard Raptor. Not worth 26K for a few seconds in speed. It also has no HUD or Rearview mirror camera plus allot of Ford plastic in the interior. Shifter is cheap looking with no carbon fiber to match interior. I just have a feeling the R is going to have allot of problems in time especially with transmission. To me the best option is Raptor 3.5L with 35’s. If your doing allot of off-roading. That’s what that frame was designed for. 37’s for weekend warriors.
37s are definitely going to be better for offroad. 26k more sounds stupid right now but give it 5 or 10 years and the R will easily make up for it in resale value once v8s are dead
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor it depends what type of off-roading. If you are crawling and need ground clearance then yes 37s help. If you are jumping the truck I would think 35s are better because you have more suspension travel.
@Hunter0000 not really. The advantage of 37s at high speed offroading is great, it can roll over bigger things easier and absorb more impact. Also bottoming out is a little harder. The lost up travel is minimal.
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor That’s good to know, thanks for the info!
How is it that the TRX is still a taller truck in stock form with 35’s ?
Also much wider
Raptors are awesome until it’s parked next to a TRX
TRX splits the price down the middle of these Raptors
True but it a Dodge, I'd take either Raptors all day long.
Yeah it's bigger but bigger isn't always better if you want to actually want to park it then the trx is probably a huge pain and when your going on off road trails they can get pretty narrow pretty fast
2" wider with 1" less travel than the Raptor.. So cool it's wider, but less functional.
Its all good, but whats the point of 0-60 test on the trucks?
Especially at 1mile above sea level
That thin air just sucks the life out of the trucks
The EVs look really fast at 1mile elevation when the ICE is trying to breathe through a straw
@@jamessilvester4622 would be awesome too see a lots of offroad
@@arts82 Because 99.999% of these trucks will never go off road, so 0-60 is far more useful than off road performance.
@@mikek5298 mkay
Thanks for the video, Andre. With the markups at new and used dealerships I would not buy either one. I found a 2023 Raptor R on Craigs List (Portland Or) at a used car dealer. Asking price $199,999. On the same search I found a 2022 Raptor on 37s with 6000 miles for $85,900. I feel like that's cheaper than what a new Raptor 37 would be at a Ford dealership. I also found there was no shortage of Used Raptors for sale. 20 & 19 in the 60 to 70K range. 18 & 17 in the 48 to 59K range.
one can ask however much they want. won't happen
@@02hreblue30 I just checked Craigs List and the Raptor R is no longer available. Either they took the listing down or they sold it. If someone did buy it, did they pay the asking price. We will never know. In my search I used just the word Raptor. My results showed two Bronco Raptors. One at $109,991 the other at $117,900. One has been on listed for sale since Jan 12. So right now, there not showing signs of flying off the shelves.
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
Love watching your vids guys. Awesome content.
I'm from down under, just gotten my ranger raptor 2 5weeks ago after 13months wait. Can't wait to see how the ranger raptor go against your f150 raptor once you guys get it.
Maybe take the ranger to 5 star tuning then race those trucks and see how close the race might be.🤔 awesome video y’all 👍
WOW 🤩 Raptor R is definitely a beast of a truck
Typically, when launching these high-powered behemoths, a big brake torque to build up boost and revs is the quickest way off the line. Unlike the TRX, the Raptor R isn't equipped with an adjustable launch-control system or any launch assistance for that matter. If there's any amount of brake pressure detected, the computers tell the engine to stand down and reduce the amount of torque delivered through the driveline. Ford says this is to prevent the engine from overwhelming the brakes. If and when you take delivery of a Raptor R, follow these two easy steps to achieve maximum acceleration: Select Sport mode (this automatically puts the transfer case into 4Auto) and turn on the Auto-Hold function for the brake system. Stand on the throttle and you're off. Simply flat-footing it from rest without using Auto Hold is a tenth slower. But that's right, the Raptor R runs to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds from idle at the line.
Now this is what I have been looking for
Awesome trucks. I can't wait for the Ranger Raptor review from TFL.
Chevy guy here...I'd go for the R idle sound quality.
Raptor R is nice, but nobody is getting them at MSRP
People hating on the 3.5 twin turbo clearly don’t actually understand the purpose of a Baja inspired truck. Trust me if your actually using your truck for long distance off road runs you want 600+ mile range and not 400 mile range or less that you will get with the R. Finding gas stations in the middle of the desert isn’t easy. And people doing long off road rallies don’t care about 0-60 or how the truck sounds. That’s not the point of these rigs. Far better to invest in long travel suspension and a solid navigation system and star link than some 7mpg truck just because it sounds better. The 3.5 6 is bullet proof. People who criticize the v6 don’t understand the importance of weight reduction for jumping,fuel economy for range. I’d by the r as an investment and let it sit in shrink wrap while I drive my gen 2
I have a Gen 2 2019 Raptor on 35's. Best truck ever. I think both the TRX and the R have jumped the shark.
That orange truck does have a Big Bulge!!!😂😂😂
That Rapter R V8 sounds terrific! A simple 5.0 liter option would suit! The 3.7 sounds bad. Sounds like I wanna be a V8, but can't quite do it.
All of a sudden my 70k ram 2500 CTD feels like a bargain.
Truth. I feel the same way about my Duramax Denali.
5.1 Raptor vs 4.6 Raptor R. Might be important if you are drag racing on a strip, or stop light to stop light, but at the price point differences, it is insanely ludicrous to say it is worth the bump up for that time difference.
hell how about trx for 85 . 0 to 60 4.5 sec
The lift changes everything.
I heard from a dealer that the R's are delayed due to an engine issue now, said they would no even tell them why? But I know owners have complained about leaking oil.
Real question is, do jo want THE real V8 mood and sound? YES!!!
Ford Raptor❤❤
I dont want to pay $26K (plus markup) for a second and a half. I have 23 V6 and love it dearly. Sounds bad ass in a sport mode
Hello sir. at 11:41 I want the sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Performance? I do not care! I know it`s fast enough! Cruising from place A to place B and listening the engine is more enough for me!! Nice vid ! Thank`s.
So, basically you would pay $26k more for a V8 with supercharger, since everything out is the same as the 3.5 raptor, suspension drive train chassis, tires, I forgot about the stickers on the R version.
No the R has a beefier Transfer case and heavier duty driveshaft as well as Heavy Duty front coil springs.
If I was in a position to do so, I would take the Raptor R in a heart beat
any sane person would.
“The bulge is bigger” 😂😂😂
Recession will bring prices down even for those cars
and interest rates
The Ford Raptor R is INSANELY EXPENSIVE!, there’s no way I will ever spend $110,000 for a truck
Great review. I just got the Raptor 35 2023. All the Raptors are $25k over sticker and the R is $40k - insane! I could’ve gotten the R for what I paid for the 35
In greece it starts from 69000 euros. 40000 selounds very cheap and a huge bargain for a car like this
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
V6 Engines sounds horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell Ford couldn't made an inline6??????????????????? Would be way more smother then..................
I would never spend that kind of money on a Ford.
When we see these across the block 20+ years from now the one that could splurge the "little" extra for R will be glad he did
For the price of a regular Raptor it should have the 5.0L *standard* . I love my Ford's but it seems as of late they are shoving too small powerplants into everything.
no thanks. Love my Ecoboosts. You sound like every other 5.0 guy out there. Give it a rest won't happen.
When Raptors first came out in Canada you could buy one for $65,000 (can$) = $48,000 (amer$), now they want $130,000 for a V-6.....a dealer in Edmonton had one Raptor R and wanted $200,000+ lol.....not to sure why one more cylinder cost an extra $70,000 lol. I bought a 2017 F-150 SC Roush 2 years ago for $57,000 (can$) the truck has a V-8 with a blower and i upgraded it to 650HP........looks like i did quite well 😊
The 8s stuck all over the R..is so ridiculous. Its what a 5 year old would do. I can't believe Ford opted to do something so silly.
Vry detailed explaination, thank you bro. God bless you.
When is the Raptor “R” vs the Trx drag race is going to be? Asking for a friend😂
ok, now i want a version with that v8 but na and similar power to the v6. but we all know that won't happen. still nice to see ford and chevy keeping the v8 engine around for at least a while longer.
Those are both really cool. I have grown up. Give me my 95 f150 any day. Sometimes, less is more.
I really really like the look of the Raptor R. The grill design with the black on orange color scheme.
The day I spend that kind of money on a friggin pickup truck is the day I get a brain scan!
Raptor R is cool, but I still like the TRX a little more.
I have the 2023 v6 and the bronco 2021 Sasquatch
For 26k extra you’d expect distinct visual exterior differences at the very least. It basically looks identical.
When you guys gonna put the raptor R vs the TRX that can be an interesting video
Its done already, super fun.
10 years ago I thought in the future I'll be making more and I'll get a performance vehicle. Now I make more but vehicle prices are so high I'm not sure I can even replace my regular F150, let alone get a Raptor
In your advert. for the Tflbids Corvette...infamous means famous for negative reasons...so, I think you mean famous, not infamous.
I built a 2023 Raptor R on the ford website with the Ontario tax in Canada is $170, 800.
I can always dream!
got to love that Socialism and weak Canadian dollar. Power on
Freedom Ford in Edmonton had an Raptor R and they wanted $200,000+ for it lol.
My two dream vehicles: F 150 raptor v8 and Lexus is500 f sport v8 😩😩😩
We’re both in awd mode with traction control off? Sport or Baja mode? Exhaust valves open? I’m sure those numbers would change if not
I would take the 7.3 Godzilla for the same price as the V6 TwinTurbo
And the aftermarket support …😎
I hope you do a side by side with the Raptor R and a 2023 TRX as well one day. If I had the money I think I'd still just get the Raptor with the Eco Boost but in Reality I'd take a Ram TRK over both. that's just my preference.
Mid 4's for a big truck on 37" tires is really good.
So is low 6's
Wait so literally you pay 26k to go from a V6 to v8 and that's it? Same suspension?
That's more than twice the diesel engine upgrade charge in heavy duty trucks!
You can get raptor R hp numbers with the ecoboost just intercooler intake and upgraded turbos with e50 tune easy 600whp and 645lbs of torque
Must have the R!
You launched the Raptor R wrong, you can't brake torque the R because the computer will reduce the torque output at launch. The Raptor R is capable of 3.6 0-60 mph, you should make an update.
The Lovely Bride and I have a long standing agreement....If it costs more than our three bedroom home which sits on about two acres of land....It stays right where it is....On the dealership lot. Sorry Ford and the other truck manufactures, if we need to replace either of our paid for 4X4 pickups it won't be with a new one.
Ford created the trombone exhaust to make the V6 Raptor sound great. For The Raptor R Ford removed it BC of the V8
I bet the Trombone exhaust system would sound crazy on the V8. Someone please swap them 🤞🥺
Has anybody figured out what makes the 3.5 EB High Output different from the standard 3.5 EB??
Really cool trucks but let's be honest, these are wealth flexes for the suburbs. How many Raptor owners are pushing them to the limit, actually using all that capability? Probably less than 1%. But hey, I ain't watching people's pockets.
The v8 is cool and all, but imo the ecoboost with the 37 performance pack, is the best one. It’s sad, but fuel economy is my biggest factor for that claim, fuel these days is getting quite expensive. Also the ecoboost has the 2KW pro power on board whilst the R can’t. Knowing myself I would also burn through way to much rubber if had a 700hp Raptor.
Now if I’d win the lottery, I’d have a bronco Raptor for a daily driver and a Raptor R for the weekends. But in reality, the ecoboost is still my top pick it must pick one
Lol @ buying an $80,000 truck and worrying about the price of fuel.
@atodaso1668 if you are spending 5k vs 10k on annual gas, yes
great points I think you are all around correct
@@Tallnerdyguy so 5k a year is a big deal to someone buying a 100,000 truck? lol
@@Tallnerdyguy : If mpg & fuel prices are a concern for someone considering a Raptor/Raptor R or a TRX then they need to rethink their priorities because they can't actually afford to buy or own either truck. Trucks like these are toys for people who can actually afford them they're not daily drivers for some broke joke living paycheck to paycheck.
I'm betting the tremor 5.0 beats the raptor V6. That's the next video Andreeeeee
Does the R have 4 piston calipers? Any footage out there of this beast flying on windy roads? I bet its white knuckles with a healthy amount of body roll lol.
V8 sounds great. V6 sounds like every honda race driver wanna be from 2005
If I had the $$ hands down RAPTOR R! Wouldn't even consider a v6
From the clips... the v6 raptor sounded better
While I think the raptor r is cool... I still like the 3.5 eb motor. I get around 18-19 in my 19 platinum and can pull a house if I wanted. The only problem is all the durability issues... cracked driver-side valve covers, phasers, and turbo coolant leaks... the valve covers have been on backorder for months because it's such a huge problem. Its also so expensive to have these issues fixed. Ford needs to make this right for the kind of money they want for these trucks. Other than that I love my ford. Wish it was more durable like the gm stuff...