The BEST Truck 4x4 System Is...

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  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
  • ( www.allTFL.com ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our TFLstudios content, from news to videos and our podcasts! After drag racing, running the Ike Gauntlet and completing the Denver 100 MPG loop with every current midsize truck (the Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, Honda Ridgeline, Jeep Gladiator, Nissan Frontier and Toyota Tacoma), this time we're running each truck through the TFL Slip test and some off-roading on the onX Offroad Course to see which 4x4 system (or all-wheel drive, in the Honda Ridgeline's case) is the best!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:37 Diagonal Slip Test: Chevy Colorado
    1:39 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Chevy Colorado
    3:18 Diagonal Slip Test: Toyota Tacoma
    3:41 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Toyota Tacoma (with a special guest!)
    4:33 Not completely trouble-free...
    5:24 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Tacoma (continued)
    6:31 Diagonal Slip Test: Nissan Frontier
    6:51 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Nissan Frontier
    7:57 Diagonal Slip Test: Honda Ridgeline (AWD)
    8:22 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Honda Ridgeline
    9:51 Diagonal Slip Test: Ford Ranger
    10:16 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Ford Ranger
    12:49 Diagonal Slip Test: Jeep Gladiator
    13:40 Three-Wheel Slip Test: Jeep Gladiator
    15:54 On the Lift: Chevy Colorado
    17:12 Chevy Colorado Off-Road
    20:24 On the Lift: Toyota Tacoma
    21:31 Toyota Tacoma Off-Road
    25:06 On the Lift: Nissan Frontier
    26:01 Nissan Frontier Off-Road
    27:57 On the Lift: Honda Ridgeline
    29:08 Honda Ridgeline Off-Road
    33:06 On the Lift: Ford Ranger
    34:11 Ford Ranger Off-Road
    39:21 On the Lift: Jeep Gladiator
    41:10 Jeep Gladiator Off-Road
    45:00 Which Midsize Truck is BEST?
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  • @darksi226
    @darksi226 14 дней назад +112

    Great vid. Very thorough. These young men are really doing well.

    • @ethannorton1560
      @ethannorton1560 13 дней назад +3

      Yes! Theses guys are great, I just hate how Tommy’s more enthusiastic towards a Toyota when it really doesn’t do much better (if any) than the others. Otherwise, they did great.

    • @thomaskrause5860
      @thomaskrause5860 3 дня назад

      😂​@@ethannorton1560

  • @MattSchmader
    @MattSchmader 14 дней назад +142

    Thank you for showing underneath the trucks, it’s frustrating how few reviews do that

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад +17

      No problem 👍

  • @viper306m
    @viper306m 12 дней назад +48

    The frontier is such a under rated little tuck

  • @Qmocean
    @Qmocean 14 дней назад +121

    Tommy's hoodie makes me think he's gonna start singing "you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals..."

  • @ivnvz
    @ivnvz 14 дней назад +42

    I’m liking the Frontier the more I see it.

    • @GaryKetchum808
      @GaryKetchum808 10 дней назад +1

      Luckily for me, I'm seeing em more often. Looks like folks are buying em.

    • @All-Miles-Matter
      @All-Miles-Matter 9 дней назад +5

      I have a 23 pro 4x. They knocked it out the park with this truck. Big naturally aspirated v6. Everything has a button. Its the last of the simple trucks. I LOVEEEEE my p4x

    • @usnr5950
      @usnr5950 День назад +1

      I have a 22 Frontier without that annoying auto shutoff!😊

  • @rafterktbcattle3022
    @rafterktbcattle3022 14 дней назад +194

    @4:58 The Tacoma probably said, "the last time I went into 4 low, I broke."

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 14 дней назад +5

      ummm no it didn't and when it does it is because of user error troll

    • @roadglidehoss
      @roadglidehoss 14 дней назад +34

      Little defensive are we..... he was making a joke​@user-do9ir8lv2m

    • @rafterktbcattle3022
      @rafterktbcattle3022 14 дней назад +22

      @@user-do9ir8lv2m So this Tacoma 4 wheel drive didn't break when it was being tested on snowing conditions??

    • @jimmyjackass1805
      @jimmyjackass1805 14 дней назад +32

      @@user-do9ir8lv2m Toyota Fan Boy in 3 2 1. Triggered Much

    • @billw8476
      @billw8476 14 дней назад +8

      @@user-do9ir8lv2m that's just not true, at all

  • @joesteel3459
    @joesteel3459 14 дней назад +124

    I own a 23’ frontier pro 4x. I’d say my experience with the off road capabilities in the beginning were decent. However my experiences were instantly transformed when I swapped out the stock Hankooks for BFG Ko2’s. The locker does help for sure, but the difference the tires made was wild. I will also say the Hankooks are absolutely fine for the vast majority of driving most will do though.

    • @danbelden7354
      @danbelden7354 14 дней назад +15

      I agree I have a 23 pro 4x as well and even with the stock tires it has gone anywhere I have wanted

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 14 дней назад +7

      Tires are everything in any truck. I can't imagine how much better a Taco would be once you lose those cheap stock shoes....

    • @philh1826
      @philh1826 14 дней назад +4

      I have the 2016 pro 4x. The old Hankooks seemed decent but woundup replacing with Toyo AT3s. Never been stuck but ill give the KO2s a chance whenever I need to replace them

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy 14 дней назад +2

      ​@@Dusdaddythose stock tires are BFG Trail terrains. Not cheap but also not super aggressive - they're a step down from KO2s in terms of off road traction.

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 14 дней назад +3

      ​@@danbelden7354I agree with you 100%.

  • @shiftymcgee9359
    @shiftymcgee9359 14 дней назад +54

    The Ridgeline gets a silly amount of hate. It’s perfectly capable for daily truck stuff and a great family pick up without needing to prove something.

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 14 дней назад

      But very expensive.

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 10 дней назад

      they all are 😂 ​@@jimsomerville3924

    • @go_dawgs_8290
      @go_dawgs_8290 4 дня назад

      @@jimsomerville3924all trucks are these days, the ridgeline remains cheaper than most still. At least near me that is

    • @davep4610
      @davep4610 4 дня назад

      The lack of ground clearance makes it a non-starter for me, even for snow driving on roads.

  • @Blue-moon12
    @Blue-moon12 14 дней назад +34

    I came here for the Frontier as I own a Pro 4x. But TFL did brilliantly in reviewing these trucks, especially under the vehicles.

  • @IPGAuto
    @IPGAuto 14 дней назад +26

    With the options in this segment, for outright reliability, I’d go Nissan Frontier Pro4X. Good ol NA motor. Their VQ motors have always been solid motors. The VQ38DD is no different.

  • @jbandt
    @jbandt 14 дней назад +72

    Gotta say the honda is very impressive. I know it's not really going to to do anything extreme but it'll do everything 90% of people need it to. And do it in comfort and better fuel economy.

    • @MOLOKAIKOA11
      @MOLOKAIKOA11 14 дней назад +12

      Took it hunting. Put a deer in the back trunk.😂

    • @IdazonaAdventures
      @IdazonaAdventures 14 дней назад +1

      Didn’t do that well in the dirt test.. prolly the worst one there

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy 14 дней назад +19

      ​@@IdazonaAdventuresit sure didn't. But it's not meant to do ruts like that. It's meant for people who would otherwise drive a passport but want to be able to throw a refrigerator in the back or move a couch without having to hook up a trailer or rent a truck from uhaul. Even the trail sport is more of a "1-2 trail rated" kind of off roader. Maybe a dirt roader. And most people who buy Raptors just off road at the mall, so they have the same buyers tbh. 😂

    • @user-kc1ld1nq1w
      @user-kc1ld1nq1w 14 дней назад +10

      ​@@IdazonaAdventures the same Honda AWD system is probably the best of the trucks in Snow which a larger percentage of truck are probably in over huge, tire in the air ruts.

    • @IdazonaAdventures
      @IdazonaAdventures 14 дней назад +2

      @@backwoodstherapy yea I understand that. It’s great for what’s it’s designed to do. It’s decent off road but I’d take any of the other trucks for an off road vehicle over the Honda. If I had a commuter that spend most of the time on the highway and very little time on trail the Honda would be a great choice!

  • @cactusmanbwl1990
    @cactusmanbwl1990 14 дней назад +31

    I have 20 ranger and it has a physical button for the locker and doesn't have any of these issues with the modes. Seems like they went backwards by adding all these stupid extra screens.

    • @austinw75
      @austinw75 14 дней назад +2

      Same here, I feel the traction modes on the 5g ranger do a pretty good job. Id like to see a comparison between the two, I think that would be interesting.

  • @danbelden7354
    @danbelden7354 14 дней назад +105

    Glad to see you didn’t snap the front differential in the Toyota again.

    • @bluceree7312
      @bluceree7312 14 дней назад +7

      good one

    • @Redfour5
      @Redfour5 14 дней назад +6

      Burn

    • @marklihsu
      @marklihsu 14 дней назад +6

      There was no ice this time just ideal conditions

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy 14 дней назад +14

      Yeah I saw the slip test and my first thought was "this may be too much for the new Toyota to handle."

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад +3

      Well it wasn't uphill.

  • @gsdfan8455
    @gsdfan8455 14 дней назад +18

    My 2021 Ranger FX4 has a button to lock the rear, none of that touch screen crap.

    • @NicholasRobertsvalleyford
      @NicholasRobertsvalleyford 13 дней назад +1

      Ranger has a button as well to lock axle. I have a video of 24 ranger lariat on my channel.

    • @Silverback_GMT410
      @Silverback_GMT410 10 дней назад +1

      Well yeah cause that truck was outdated when it came stateside

    • @LongWalker730
      @LongWalker730 8 дней назад +1

      @@Silverback_GMT410Outdated? More like proven and reliable. I like outdated

  • @gregc9220
    @gregc9220 14 дней назад +220

    You would think with today's technology Toyota would make their four wheel drive system better, it's 2024 you still have to pull forward and back up pull forward and back up to get it to engage or disengage 🤣

    • @jaytrock3217
      @jaytrock3217 14 дней назад +55

      Reliability is the reason. You are the wanted it now generation, and fix later. I rather it work slower and not fix it later.

    • @gregc9220
      @gregc9220 14 дней назад +129

      @@jaytrock3217 but it already broke the front diff in the first dirt video 🤣🤣🤣

    • @thewireman134
      @thewireman134 14 дней назад +26

      At least it didn't break this time

    • @JeremyHoutgoogleplus
      @JeremyHoutgoogleplus 14 дней назад +82

      Dude it’s sucked for like 20 years I think they have had time to figure it out. Worst part of Toyota is the fan boys

    • @rodicmilorad5
      @rodicmilorad5 14 дней назад +20

      Toyota have to copy other company's first to get 4x4

  • @bigpoppa1992
    @bigpoppa1992 14 дней назад +14

    I never understood the fight some manufacturers have with 4wd low. My old ford explorer locks and unlocks in 4wd low in a second. No pulling forward and back.

    • @oweny7814
      @oweny7814 11 дней назад +4

      Looks like it’s just a Toyota problem

    • @eddycarmona3979
      @eddycarmona3979 11 дней назад +4

      My 22 year old Chevy switches at the press of a button. My brothers 22 Tacoma TRD pro you have to fight it. Makes zero sense

  • @tylersrubar6451
    @tylersrubar6451 14 дней назад +37

    Honda just needs to make the Ridgeline look more rugged and truck shape and they will have better success. I'll admit Ridgeline is a cool name too.

    • @billricheter5678
      @billricheter5678 14 дней назад +7

      More clearance and not such exposed underbody

    • @elche1976
      @elche1976 14 дней назад +2

      Yeah, there's a reason they are well behind in the midsized truck sales department.

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 13 дней назад +8

      Most people who buy 4WD trucks want a Body on Frame and not a wimpy car Unibody

    • @mouaxiong8618
      @mouaxiong8618 13 дней назад +5

      Honda is not claiming it a crawling machine like other trucks used in this video. They'll get more hate if Honda makes it look more like a "real truck" when Honda knows its not. These aren't exactly the off roading or body class the Ridgeline should be competing on anyways.

    • @billw8476
      @billw8476 13 дней назад

      @@elche1976 well, it doesn't have a frame, like a real truck does.

  • @jholub01
    @jholub01 14 дней назад +23

    Thanks for throwing the Ridgeline in there. I’ve never taken mine off road but cool to see how it would handle itself on a light trail. Also nice to see its AWD system is capable in conditions I will find myself in…snow. Love ya’lls vids. Keep up the good work!

    • @edwardweeks1539
      @edwardweeks1539 14 дней назад

      Take it off the beaten path its fun I promise

    • @blakerh
      @blakerh 14 дней назад +2

      I just got a 2024 Ridgline Black Edition. It is so much nicer than my 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport that I traded in. I dont go off road, so it is a perfect truck for city driving.

    • @brayoungful
      @brayoungful 13 дней назад +2

      I've got a ZR2 and my friend's CRV is SO much nicer to ride in off-road. Sure, my ZR2 can go some places I wouldn't take the Honda, but 90% of offroading I do (and I live in the desert southwest) is just as passable with the CRV as it is my ZR2. The Ridgeline should be similar in terms of hardware and ground clearance.
      KBB also drove like an hour and a half down a washboarded road with the previous model of Ridgeline and the shocks overheated and exploded. Honda *specifically* reengineered them in the current model to be robust to that, so they're rock solid.
      If your tires are coming up on needing replacement, I'd recommend changing them out to slightly more aggressive off roading tires.. you'll lose a bit of mpg, but then you'll be able to take your Ridgeline anywhere.

  • @BlueDually4x4
    @BlueDually4x4 14 дней назад +11

    This is one of the better videos you have put out in a little while. Tommy and Case made a good pair, they didn't try to talk over the other or argue. Just good delivery of the information and thoughts on each vehicle in each situation. Let Andre and Mr. Truck handle towing and payload, Tommy and Case can handle off road or other uses while Roman and Nathen sit in the office.

    • @mnyhomie
      @mnyhomie 12 дней назад +3

      I'm gonna have to agree. Now that you put it like that and I think of the old videos it is a fair comment. Could be an age bias though because I'm closer to Tommy and Case. Good observation

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 12 дней назад +7

    That Frontier has the old Pathfinder's wheels!!! I LOVE IT!!!

  • @Eikichi4798
    @Eikichi4798 14 дней назад +15

    It would be cool to see these same tests done with half payload, and then full payload.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад +2

      Nobody is going 4 wheeling with a mid-size truck loaded to the max. If you need to haul a heavy load and go off road, you really are better served with a full size

    • @Eikichi4798
      @Eikichi4798 14 дней назад +2

      @mrvwbug4423 I do all the time while overlanding.
      These are also suppose to be tests to see how the truck acts, and is also why I suggested a test at half payload (most common for overlanding) and full payload (to see hoe it does at the extreme).

    • @user-gq2vn1xj2r
      @user-gq2vn1xj2r 5 дней назад

      @@mrvwbug4423 You would be amazed at how fast payload fills up with camping gear and passengers.

  • @ulisg6040
    @ulisg6040 14 дней назад +25

    Well done guys, they drove the Toyota so carefully this time that it didn’t even break down, which is amazing!

  • @rodneycj111
    @rodneycj111 14 дней назад +1

    This was a very comprehensive test comparison and I enjoyed watching!!! You guys helped me make my decision on my new truck which is the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-road ( bronze oxide). Keep up the good work fellas we appreciate your efforts!

  • @Ryan-cf6lc
    @Ryan-cf6lc 14 дней назад +11

    Fun to watch Roman's inpatients Tommy inherited.😄

  • @rafterktbcattle3022
    @rafterktbcattle3022 14 дней назад +12

    Thank you for doing all these in depth tests. It puts well deserved pressure on manufactures to build quality vehicles for the consumers. I'm very convinced vehicle manufacturers watch these comparisons. Thank you TFL family 👍 With that being said, I hope TFL is compensating Andre for using his personal truck.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад +3

      Our pleasure!

  • @domin8ss
    @domin8ss 14 дней назад +6

    I'd still buy the Colorado Trail Boss. Cheaper than the Jeep and Toyota, and performed just as well. Yes, the rear leafs do affect the ride, but it's still good enough. If I was in the market today that's the way I'd go.

  • @IAmTheGuy1477
    @IAmTheGuy1477 14 дней назад +2

    TFL!
    Thanks for doing this!

  • @bruceklassen8261
    @bruceklassen8261 14 дней назад +4

    This was a fantastic episode thanks TFL JEEP ❤

  • @jl4091
    @jl4091 14 дней назад +30

    I'm 82 and I own a Hardbody.

    • @LukeEdward
      @LukeEdward 14 дней назад +3

      What’s her name?

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 14 дней назад +2

      What’s your age have to do with anything?

    • @Redfour5
      @Redfour5 14 дней назад +7

      Liar. I'm 68 and mine disappeared decades ago... Oh wait, nevermind.

    • @JoshAllenberg
      @JoshAllenberg 14 дней назад +9

      I'm hard and I own an '82 body

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 14 дней назад +2

      I love the original hardbody trucks.
      The new one nothing like the old one.

  • @scotto9712
    @scotto9712 14 дней назад +9

    Gladiator - I know sometimes you don't have control on what you get, but a willy's with hard top and rear locker, and the same off road esc can be had for 15k less. Also, it says a lot at Jeep Safari- they send you up a hill in a Mojave knowing people are going to hit the underside and the jeep reps are 'whatever'. When you see the test courses manufacturers throw at you, the level of confidence reflects the level that the developers expect the vehicle to perform at. Compare the Gladiator intro events to the intro events for everyone else except the Chevy (the desert race course-that was impressive).

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 14 дней назад +2

      The Jeep has an off road cruise control system as well which they didn’t use.

  • @Twistedoff2
    @Twistedoff2 13 дней назад

    Great comparison guys. I love to see all the trucks move through the obstacles. There's good and bad with all of them it's up to each of us to see what we can live with and without. Can't wait for the next one!

  • @jermsman18
    @jermsman18 14 дней назад +4

    Looks like a lot of getting unstuck is knowing your vehicle and how it likes to do it. This was very helpful as current owner to be aware of using 4 low to unstuck myself.

    • @briskhockey
      @briskhockey 7 дней назад

      Yep. Learned it this year in my 2018 frontier SV (no locker) went into some crunchy snow and sunk and got stuck in 4high. Put it into 4low and backed right out

  • @reddeserted13
    @reddeserted13 14 дней назад +14

    Nissan hanging just fine without even the Pro4x

  • @kardis_j
    @kardis_j 14 дней назад +25

    Regarding the Nissan, it is known that the traction control system is much, much more aggressive in engagement in 4-LO. It is almost nonexistent in 4-HI. It is by their design.
    Also, you guys should have used the Pro-4x trim to keep the comparisons like-for-like.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 14 дней назад

      You mean its an old outdated system. Everyone already has moved forward based on this test showing all the trucks getting out in 4hi. Except the ford

    • @02PSU
      @02PSU 14 дней назад +8

      The Pro 4X is very impressive and tried and true. Trust me, it’ll be the most sought after mid size out of all those tested.

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 14 дней назад +5

      ​@beexiong2995 Just because something is more new or modern doesn't make it better. Nissan simply is tried and tested and successful. So why change it?

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 14 дней назад +1

      @@Blue-moon12 but everything was better 😂. And the nissan in this test costs more than some of the competitors. That should be a 35k truck.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 14 дней назад

      @@02PSU nah. The nissan is not even a top pick for offroaders, overlanding, hell right out of the gate it sits too low and needs a lift to even compete with stock competitors. Not to mention articulation is not good. Stock for stock it is the oldest truck in the market yet its priced at 50k. Save yourself money and buy the previous gen with the same 3.8. Same truck costing 10k less.

  • @Dwealdric
    @Dwealdric 14 дней назад +64

    Toyota doesn't get called out for their plastic gas tank skid, but everyone else does?

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад +2

      The one on the Tacoma is thick AF, probably stronger than most metal skidplates.

    • @Dwealdric
      @Dwealdric 14 дней назад +40

      @@mrvwbug4423 Now that's hilarious Toyota fanboyism right there.

    • @remgu2000
      @remgu2000 14 дней назад +3

      ​@Dwealdric I'm a fan boy but admit it is dumb. However most of us that will take it off road will install our own. The other 99.9% don't need it.

    • @khantra4568
      @khantra4568 14 дней назад +8

      @@remgu2000 That can be said for all the other trucks.

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 14 дней назад +2

      ​@@mrvwbug4423😂

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 14 дней назад +9

    Hey the Toyota didn't break this time 😅

  • @zodac1976
    @zodac1976 14 дней назад +2

    I have a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave and you can engage the rear locker in 4x4H. You have to put it in neutral, hit the offroad+ and make sure that traction control is turned off before you try to engage it.

  • @frankENZC
    @frankENZC 14 дней назад +2

    This was a very awesome review/test! Thanks guys!

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад +1

      Our pleasure!

  • @RCPhotosVideos
    @RCPhotosVideos 14 дней назад +7

    Off-road plus mode for the Mojave lets you do more with the 4wd system and the locker.

  • @capstone-sr4ok
    @capstone-sr4ok 14 дней назад +6

    I love the way the Chevy and the taco look

  • @matthewdrew6268
    @matthewdrew6268 14 дней назад +1

    Not sure if the new frontiers are the same but my manual trans 2015 takes about 2 seconds for the abs pump to kick in and apply the brakes to the slipping wheel. This is actually pretty nice on a manual transmission because it gives you some time and you won't get the rpm too low

  • @Steven-gv1ke
    @Steven-gv1ke 9 дней назад

    This should be done on every single four-wheel drive system made on every single vehicle! Thank you for doing this!

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 14 дней назад +25

    I’m surprised the Toyota didn’t break an axle or diff on those slip rollers 😂

    • @user-kx7iz6qk6b
      @user-kx7iz6qk6b 10 дней назад

      Still last longer than your American junk 😅😅😅😂

  • @crj5631
    @crj5631 14 дней назад +7

    Stick an accelerometer data logger on the dashboard of each car you drive on your track to get objective ride quality. $20 arduino project.

  • @jayhiggins5239
    @jayhiggins5239 14 дней назад

    Yea! Been waiting for this to publish.

  • @HenryCalderonJr
    @HenryCalderonJr 14 дней назад

    Good test enjoyed the reason to have these vehicles. Thank you 😊

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @Wrangler59
    @Wrangler59 14 дней назад +5

    Damn that Trail Boss and Pro 4X are nice.

  • @gunsncars469
    @gunsncars469 14 дней назад +3

    It's so cool you did more of a run of the mill and not the high-end vehicles.
    I was blown away with the $68k sticker price of the gladiator. I could only imagine what a Rubicon would cost.
    Bad enough, these "average" vehicles are so overpriced, but it's even harder to justify spending $70k plus on the higher end models
    As the old saying goes, those who need them (guy living in the mountains without a paved road) can't afford them, and those who can afford them, don't need them.

  • @huuvu9794
    @huuvu9794 3 дня назад

    I used to own a 23 frontier pro 4x. Loved the short time i had with it. Its severely underrated.

  • @mikemcclure3376
    @mikemcclure3376 10 дней назад +1

    Went to a event in Springfield Mo with my jeeps . Crazy to say a guy showed up with a overland build ridge line with a 2.5 lift and a set of k02’s and outperformed a lot of equipment double the price in mods

  • @WontHe5786
    @WontHe5786 13 дней назад +6

    That G80 is better than folks give it credit for

  • @MJ-km3qz
    @MJ-km3qz 14 дней назад +4

    This has to be my favorite video of all times. It was very helpful and entertaining. Now take them all to Moab! lol

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @andreasm2882
    @andreasm2882 13 дней назад

    Excellent video guys. I can not wait for you guys to get a hold of the Tacoma Limited. I soooo want to see how the full-time 4wd manages these same tests.

  • @tactical_potato81
    @tactical_potato81 14 дней назад +2

    Another solid video guys! I'd love to see a "Top Dog Trim" comparison as well. You'd have to add in some everyday livability, some washboard roads as well. Stay safe yall 🤙

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  14 дней назад

      Great suggestion!

  • @LordArdn
    @LordArdn 14 дней назад +15

    I've been wanting a Ridgeline. Watching your tests makes me want one even more. I don't do any heavy towing or off roading, just need a small truck bed for occasionally large objects.

    • @BS-zg7dn
      @BS-zg7dn 14 дней назад +4

      Just leased my second Ridgeline. I love it! I don't tow anything so I don't worry about big towing numbers. It is SO comfortable and a great long distance tripper. Still has all the buttons you need.

    • @ramjam4618
      @ramjam4618 14 дней назад

      ​​​@@BS-zg7dnI tow a 2500 lbs boat and haul a lot of stuff in my '21 Ridgeline and it's excellent! Get about 17 mpg while towing. Plenty of power in the V6 and with high payload rating I can tow and bring my friends along comfortably

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 14 дней назад

      @@BS-zg7dnYeah, it looks like a great truck. The only problem I have with it is the looks. I just find it kind of awkward looking, though it probably wouldn’t keep me purchasing one if I needed a smaller truck.
      Edit: I will say that after watching more of the video, the looks aren’t necessarily growing on me, but aren’t as bad as I originally stated.

    • @DavefromCA2023
      @DavefromCA2023 14 дней назад

      If I wasnt looking to follow my friends in their Raptors, Tacomas and 4Runners up the trail the Ridgeline would be my first choice.

    • @MSchumacherfan
      @MSchumacherfan 14 дней назад

      Plastic skid plate on the Toyota lol 😂

  • @gmercede
    @gmercede 14 дней назад +8

    Nice tests. A lot of hard work goes into making this kind of video. Thank you.
    Jeep did well. I love the Toyota but they've always had difficulty shifting between modes. I suspect they are finicky for reliability sake. Unless conditions are perfect, they don't want to mechanically force the engagement.

  • @Ornelas11B
    @Ornelas11B 14 дней назад +4

    This is the one I’ve been waiting for.

  • @Reallifesatan
    @Reallifesatan 13 дней назад

    This is awesome love these slip tests

  • @christopheralvarez1090
    @christopheralvarez1090 14 дней назад +1

    I really think the ABLS system in the frontier helped on the Offroad test. You can see the system engaging as you get one wheel in the air it is laggy but it’s there.

  • @svpracer98
    @svpracer98 14 дней назад +12

    Given the 4x4 system on the Chevy is very similar to the previous generation, I can say in the real world, it's very competent...
    I'd be rather embarrassed if I worked at Toyota though, seems to be a very finicky system.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад

      Only the rear locker is finicky, but it won't shift out of 4 low until the locker disengages. Jeep lockers are also notoriously finicky about disengaging. As long as you remember to disengage your locker and wiggle the steering a bit before shifting out of 4 low you're fine.

  • @MadBlod07
    @MadBlod07 14 дней назад +4

    and this is why you guys are the best car channel in youtube... keep it up

  • @chriswagner9573
    @chriswagner9573 14 дней назад

    Love the head to head testing under the same conditions!!

  • @waldojim42
    @waldojim42 23 часа назад

    I have a 22 ecodiesel gladiator. Fantastic truck. Done me well off-road, and it does well towing the camper as well. Frankly - you guys are talking about all the tech as a good thing - I find it far more liberating not having the nanny features.

  • @-_-_-_-318
    @-_-_-_-318 14 дней назад +5

    I noticed you changed camera angles when the Tacoma was shaking the hell out of the passengers during the log run 😂

  • @TheModerateMillenial
    @TheModerateMillenial 14 дней назад +10

    Not surprised by the results of the ridgeline. Your Honda ridgeline video from a few years ago is why I got my 2024 ridgeline.
    I don’t leave the pavement. My last truck was a 04 Ranger RWD. Flipped it on ice 330 in the morning. Wanted a full time AWD that was always active, without my input, at any speed, for those unpredictable moments.
    Technically speaking I-VTM4
    Can send 70% power to rear wheels and 100% of that 70% to each wheel.
    And just a rule of thumb for all the manufacturers, they should study Kia/hyundai features and screening.
    They have shit reliability and yet are some of the fastest selling cars. I leased an ioniq and its instrument cluster and menu system were significantly more intuitive.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад +3

      Yeah, VTM does a great job in tests like this and in light off roading. It will work well for most people. However it will also overheat and wear out faster if used hard, which is why traditional trucks don't use those kind of systems. Which is best depends on what you need.
      I don't know about Hyundai/Kia controls, when we were looking at SUVs I really didn't like all the screens very much. I prefer no screen controls at all for basic functions. People still think that screens are a sign of high tech and luxury, but in reality it's cheaper and easier to program a Chinese touch panel than it is to design and manufacture physical gauges and controls.

    • @philoakley221
      @philoakley221 14 дней назад +1

      Kia is the highest ranking mass sales vehicle brand for the past three years in the JD Power Vehicle Reliability Study.

    • @2-1inffwa97
      @2-1inffwa97 14 дней назад

      Are you saying because your ranger was not awd or 4wd you flipped on ice ?

    • @Redfour5
      @Redfour5 14 дней назад +1

      I was a Subaru guy and they have an amazing 4WD system particularly in manual (Old School). But in doing research, I was amazed at how sophisticated the Ridgeline system was. It almost "thinks" about what it is doing and is equal to any Subaru and better in some respects. And you can haul stuff in it.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад

      @@Redfour5 Yes but the difference is that the Subaru's simpler system is always sending power to the rear so there is immediate traction in an emergency maneuver. Which is one of the main reasons to have AWD in a car and why Subaru touts the safety of their cars. Where as Honda's VTM is more for traction when pulling away from a stoplight or light off roading. It disengages above I believe 18 MPH. Each system has its pros and cons.

  • @MrAKhiker
    @MrAKhiker 14 дней назад +1

    Great job guys! Since price came up, a quick list of MSRPs for each truck at the end would be helpful. (Understanding that MSRPs are “guidelines” only.)

  • @BenV2e2n
    @BenV2e2n 14 дней назад +1

    What is really surprising is the fact that the Bronco Sport did performed very well in this test while the Ranger was struggling!

  • @malifestro3319
    @malifestro3319 14 дней назад +3

    It might be arranged?! Kick ass! Tho, with double lockers all these tests are pretty much the same results I would think.

  • @PROutdoors94
    @PROutdoors94 14 дней назад +6

    Like you said at the end, it’ll be interesting to see all the top trims of each model go head to head!

  • @christopherdimotsis1024
    @christopherdimotsis1024 13 дней назад

    Not surprised by the keep at all. A tried and true 4WD system, Honda was very impressive and also impressive with the frontier not having a rear locker and getting unstuck….. sounds like if you want a hardcore off roader the gladiator is a great choice, for a commuter that’s capable Honda and if you need a standard midsize truck for a great price the frontier is your truck….. all of these look like great trucks. Just shop around and compare what you get for the prices….. great video guys!

  • @MLHunt
    @MLHunt 12 дней назад

    Tommy is the best. Affable, positive, no nonsense, knowledgeable. His vids are my favorites on the TFL channels.
    Is Case a new addition to the channel? Also very good.

  • @user-ib6fu3ux1q
    @user-ib6fu3ux1q 14 дней назад +3

    This was great information. But we really need to see a true off road comparison. Ever since the Toyota front axle failed we have not seen that truck in a true off road setting.

  • @BeanoNoir
    @BeanoNoir 14 дней назад +6

    Mud and ruts modes in all brands have always traditionally only been available in 4hi. The strategy for this is to ensure higher wheel speed and less traction control intervention to shed mud from the tires. A better traction mode for low or uneven traction surfaces would have been the snow and ice or slippery mode. That being said, the previous Gen Ranger didn't have traction modes, only sport mode. If memory serves, that version ate this test alive. It does seem like the traction control tuning is undercooked on this new gen, as the last Gen had it as one of it's strengths.

  • @Hpdsgt91
    @Hpdsgt91 11 дней назад

    Another outstanding review 😊

  • @steve8803
    @steve8803 12 дней назад +2

    The 2.7 Ranger is going to be the one to go with in this segment.

  • @herbwheeler4470
    @herbwheeler4470 14 дней назад +14

    Yep I really like my Chevy Colorado G80 locker. No need to manually engage it.

    • @MrCherrygrovedude
      @MrCherrygrovedude 14 дней назад

      They are made of glass. There’s a reason people get rid of them all the time for selectable lockers or better auto lockers.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад

      Also known as the Grenade 80. Like the Honda VTM, it works well if you baby it.

    • @busslayer4790
      @busslayer4790 14 дней назад +2

      It looks like it works ok in situations where you are able to use a lot of throttle. I do a lot of off roading where that much throttle would be suicidal.

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 14 дней назад +1

      They are fine for most but not made well enough for serious off-road. There is a huge advantage to locking up the rear end before you hit the obstacle. Waiting until there is slippage is sometimes too late to help.

    • @elche1976
      @elche1976 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@MrCherrygrovedudeif you don't know what you're doing, possibly true.

  • @notwoke22
    @notwoke22 9 дней назад

    It's great seeing the younger generation steeping into the truck/car culture. Keep up the great work. You're doing an excellent job.

  • @ardgp
    @ardgp 14 дней назад +5

    Correct me if I´m wrong but the Jeep has bigger tires which seems to help with this exercise

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад +2

      And it still struggled a bit more with the locker disengaged than the Tacoma. Put 33s and gnarly tires on the Taco and it would be unstoppable.

  • @whodey59
    @whodey59 13 дней назад +2

    A Taco Off Road vs a Frontier Hardbody is not a fair test.
    A Frontier Pro4x would be more comparable.

  • @blakemarchand6650
    @blakemarchand6650 10 дней назад

    I like the simplicity of the solid axle in the Mojave. And the suspension is a plus

  • @alexandersheppard1997
    @alexandersheppard1997 14 дней назад +7

    I would absolutely NOT trust the front differential in that Tacoma after it blew up on you guys a couple months ago.

    • @jeremyjohnson6438
      @jeremyjohnson6438 14 дней назад +2

      Same thing in 4runner and Landcruiser now that they are all the same thing.

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 11 дней назад +1

      @@jeremyjohnson6438 assembled in mexico (tacoma) definitely not equal to assembled in japan (gx, land cruiser, 4runner) lol

    • @jeremyjohnson6438
      @jeremyjohnson6438 11 дней назад

      That's a good point. But, Toyota said the part in the front diff did what it was designed to do. It was designed to fail in "extreme conditions". It wasn't a failure of assembly, it was by design.

    • @alexandersheppard1997
      @alexandersheppard1997 11 дней назад

      @@jeremyjohnson6438 what TFL was doing when it failed was hardly extreme. If that’s all it takes, Toyota dealers are going to have a lot of warranty work in the near future.

    • @jeremyjohnson6438
      @jeremyjohnson6438 11 дней назад

      ​@alexandersheppard1997 I know, I totally agree. Hopefully they already have that part already updated on the assembly line

  • @CPScott16
    @CPScott16 14 дней назад +4

    Why didn't you run the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x? Despite what you said, it is the model that is actually the same price or lower than the Gladiator, TRD-Off Road, Ridgeline and Trail Boss? The Pro-4x is really capable with the locker and Bilstiens. Running some Wildpeak AT4's on it and it just chews up terrain.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад

      Because the non pro-4X is the truck Nissan provided.

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 14 дней назад

      ​@@mrvwbug4423I think it's because it's the newest Frontier. They are all 2024s

  • @rufaimuhammadaminu6873
    @rufaimuhammadaminu6873 13 дней назад

    You have made a thorough REVIEW including that underbody you shewed. I love the Honda Ridgeline because its not having option of low high 4s,but its fast to respond on the roller. That's computer working fast to make vehicles get moved when three tyres lose grip

  • @aaronsmegmasson7184
    @aaronsmegmasson7184 14 дней назад +4

    Frontier Pro4x has Better skid plates than any of these trucks

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 14 дней назад +3

    So what do you do if your are out on a tight trail and you cant go backwards or forwards with your Toyota stuck in 4X4 high ? Sort crazy that it doesn't shift from high to low or low to high easily? I wonder if that is a software program to protect the front axle from breaking?

    • @lukestoyz
      @lukestoyz 14 дней назад

      When would you have a problem going forward or backwards in 4wd? If you can’t go either way then 2wd would not help you.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад

      it doesn't get stuck in high. What specifically happens is going from 4 low back into 4 high is it will not come out of 4 low until the rear locker disengages. You sometimes need to wiggle the front wheels a bit while moving to disengage the rear locker on the Tacoma, this is also something common to Jeep lockers as well. I have a 2019 TRD off road Tacoma, and it's the same as their 2024, if the locker is not engaged it will go in and out of 4 low with ease.

    • @tippycan
      @tippycan 9 дней назад

      I don't have difficulty in my 4runner

  • @Nothern_King
    @Nothern_King 5 дней назад

    Great video, when Andre the legend turned up it was like the dad showing up lol. But that's not to take away from the testing, they did a great thorough job!

  • @scotthartman4658
    @scotthartman4658 14 дней назад +5

    Why no roller test with the Colorado in 4Auto? I was genuinely looking forward to that

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад +1

      result would be the same

  • @soapmaker2263
    @soapmaker2263 8 дней назад +3

    Tacoma is overpriced by nearly 10k, and I say that as a Toyota enthusiast. They moved manufacturing to Mexico, but didn’t pass any of those savings to the consumer. You get waay more for the money with the competition. With turbo engine and exploding diff, they can’t claim QDR anymore.

  • @rwbaker316
    @rwbaker316 14 дней назад

    Awesome video!

  • @f1y7rap
    @f1y7rap 13 дней назад

    The Chevy on the 3wheel test was hilarious. It only managed to get off because the rear was slipping sideways and grabbed the sides of the roller frames

  • @ethannorton1560
    @ethannorton1560 13 дней назад +15

    The Colorado is underrated.

  • @Norwisco
    @Norwisco 14 дней назад +4

    We have a 2017 tundra we plow snow with and yea its always gets stuck in 4wd so annoying

  • @johnmeeboer8971
    @johnmeeboer8971 14 дней назад +1

    all the trucks did really well, some did better than others you just need to be patient which most people now a days don't have.

  • @AdventureBraten01
    @AdventureBraten01 14 дней назад +1

    One thing I would absolutely love to see is a comparison between the trail hunter and the TRD pro Tacoma side-by-side with very similar testing. That way we could really see what side which Tacoma is best at.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад

      I suspect you'd be splitting hairs at rock crawling speeds. The Fox shocks of the Pro are more for pre-running than rock crawling. The Pro is going to be the "buy to flip and don't drive" just like the last one, the trailhunter will be "buy to overland" and the TRD off road will be the "buy to use as a daily driver". Most TRD Pro buyers of the prior gen were buying to flip em.

  • @12B0692
    @12B0692 14 дней назад +5

    Test driving the Toyota convinced me to buy the Ridgeline almost as much as driving the Ridgeline did.

    • @billricheter5678
      @billricheter5678 14 дней назад

      Ridgeline is a better option for 99 percent of the population.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 14 дней назад +1

      have fun with the ZF 9 speed. They usually blow up between 30k-50k miles.

  • @krashnpa
    @krashnpa 14 дней назад +34

    The Toyota T-case struggle is real, but who cares when Blazie is there?!

    • @somecarnet
      @somecarnet 14 дней назад +3

      I swear this is a thing with all Toyota's that have a manual selectable 4wd system. The only ones that don't struggle between low and high are the limited trims with a Torsen diff. My T4R, even with the "J" manual 4x4 stick, will take a while to get into and out of 4lo.

    • @bluceree7312
      @bluceree7312 14 дней назад +2

      Wasn't the Ineos having issues too?

    • @user-do9ir8lv2m
      @user-do9ir8lv2m 14 дней назад +1

      umm there is no struggle

    • @krashnpa
      @krashnpa 14 дней назад +5

      @user-do9ir8lv2m so denial isn't just a river in Egypt, after all! Thanks for confirming! 👍

    • @RJ-vc2ju
      @RJ-vc2ju 13 дней назад

      @@somecarnet No, the ones with a mechanical transfer case shifter (the lever) have no delay in engaging. Once the shifter has slid into position, it's in 4Hi or 4Lo. What does take time is the system's electronic (wheel speed based) display. The electronic selector for the rear mechanical locker is not a direct mechanical connection and requires synchronization of rear diff and axles, which is why it helps to turn (and roll forward slowly) when trying to lock your rear diff. Even after it's engage and locked, Toyota will still verify with wheel speed differential numbers to confirm that it is locked and only then does it stop the flashing icon. There are a few other manufacturers that have the same approach.

  • @robertrousseaux1059
    @robertrousseaux1059 14 дней назад

    Great test , I have an original test . Would sway bar disconnect help you when hung up on a snow bank. Happens a lot on the prairies. Driving on hard pack snow then that awful sound of the truck tires pushing through the hard layer of snow and your tires can’t reach dirt by one inch .

  • @calgreco8607
    @calgreco8607 5 дней назад

    Are the shocks any better on the Ridgeline Trail Sport vs. my old 22 RTL ??? That was my biggest complaint they road soft but lacked rebound speed a little.

  • @richardwoodworth549
    @richardwoodworth549 14 дней назад +3

    Mud and ruts in the Ford is made to allow tire spin so a bad choice on the slip test

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 14 дней назад +2

      No kidding. The fact that it forces 4H should have been a clue to that. Its meant to give you tire spin to clear the treads.

  • @hakz1nunke
    @hakz1nunke 14 дней назад +4

    I'd like to see a FWD truck slip test. Ridgeline up against the Santa Cruz and Maverick Tremor

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад

      Ridgeline and Maverick Tremor should be similar as both have torque-vectoring clutch packs.

    • @hakz1nunke
      @hakz1nunke 14 дней назад

      @@plmn93 should be, but that's all electronically controlled so how the two companies choose to engage those systems will make a big difference, similar to what we see I'm this video

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 14 дней назад +3

      @@hakz1nunke Truck King did a mud test between the Ridgeline and Tremor a couple weeks ago. I'd link it but links seem to always get my posts deleted, so you'll need to search for it. They are both capable and more limited by ground clearance than the AWD systems.

    • @BenV2e2n
      @BenV2e2n 14 дней назад

      But the Ford did a better job!

    • @jg8263
      @jg8263 14 дней назад

      Honda is only AWD now (yes FWD biased) they stopped offering a FWD only option in I believe 2019.